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Quint catches the 3:10 TO YUMA!!!

Published at:  Aug 20, 2007 11:06:58 AM CDT

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Is it possible that the western might not be dead?

We’ll see when 3:10 TO YUMA opens. Because this film is a real western. I hesitate to call it a throw-back because that implies it’s aping a particular style.

There have been some good westerns since UNFORGIVEN… I’m particularly fond of THE PROPOSITION, but even that is kind of the “twist” on the Western. It’s a stylistic western. Those are the types we’re given. Not much, but at least something for those of us who love westerns.

From the very first note played during the opening title of 3:10 TO YUMA you know you are in for an honest to god, real life western. No modern bells and whistles, no post-modern twist or catch, but a real western that is proud to be one and goes for it all the way.

I’ve seen the original film starring Glenn Ford and Van Heflin and I really dug it. In fact, it was one of two westerns that changed my mind about the genre. My dad was really into westerns and I guess I kind of revolted.

Then, as a young teen, I saw THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE and 3:10 TO YUMA within a month of each other and that wall dropped. I even started getting into the early James Bond movies that my dad loved. So much for my revolution…

James Mangold’s 3:10 TO YUMA could be a case study on how to approach a remake. One, you find a title that has a fantastic premise. Check. Two, you make sure that title needs a reason for a fresh take on it. In this case, it’s a great, approachable western, a tale about two opposing forces surrounded by many colorful characters. With a great cast and a good director this story was ripe for a grand retelling.

List off the best remakes. You get… THE WIZARD OF OZ, THE MALTESE FALCON, John Carpenter’s THE THING… every one of those brought something special to a great story (not to mention they’re all based on a book or novella). In the cases of THE WIZARD OF OZ and THE MALTESE FALCON they brought the story unto the realm of talking pictures. With Carpenter’s THE THING, he took a premise and amped it up to its full potential, stressing the paranoia and making it an effects spectacular, something we’ve never seen before.

I’ll need to see 3:10 TO YUMA a few more times before I can put it in the same league as those above, but I will say upon my first viewing I found the film to be great.

If you’re not familiar with the story (originally written by Elmore Leonard) it’s about a down on his luck rancher (Christian Bale) who has just been through the ringer. Life has chewed him up and spit him out, but still… this man has found it within himself to be a gentle and kind being.

One day he stumbles across a robbery in progress. A stage coach is being violently taken by the great outlaw Ben Wade (Russell Crowe). A man of charm, surprising sophistication and extreme intelligence. He doesn’t interfere, but from this moment on the rancher’s fate is entwined with this outlaw.

It comes to pass that Crowe is separated from his gang, a group of savages it should be noted, and is caught by the law. However, the gang is going to do whatever they can to get their number one out of custody.

So, it becomes a race to get the outlaw to another city where he’ll catch the 3:10 train to Yuma Prison. The railroad is funding this transport, an investment in keeping Wade from robbing them blind. Bale signs up and you have a movie where two of our greatest working actors chew up scenery together.

I know Crowe gets a lot of shit. A truck load of it, but I can’t imagine watching this film and not wanting to join up with his gang. He’s got the charisma, the charm and the badassness. He so fits the western. I even loved him as the repentant gunslinging preacher in Sam Raimi’s THE QUICK AND THE DEAD. It’s good to see him back in the desert.

On the other side of the spectrum, you have Christian Bale, another fantastic actor, but one that doesn’t get as much shit… I guess it’s because he’ll chop up girls in one movie and then strap on the cape and cowl to rescue them in another. Bale continues his amazing run. It’s his year. If his work in this film or RESCUE DAWN doesn’t get some nominations I’ll be shocked.

James Mangold did a great job shooting this thing as well as balancing his two stars. You really see them as equals and you like them both. In fact, I came to a point where I was completely torn. I didn't want to see Ben Wade make the train because I liked the guy and wanted him to get away. But I also like Bale's character and want to see him get paid off for delivering Wade to the train. It's a fascinating bit of gray that you don't see in most studio pictures. You don't often care just as much for the antagonist as the protagonist.

Mangold also did a fantastic job of casting the supporting roles. Ben Foster is bugfuck nuts in this movie. He’s terrifying. He’s Crowe’s number two and the one leading the gang to get him back at any cost. There’s a quiet insanity to him throughout the movie. I don’t know if that’s there all the time (maybe… I saw him at Comic-Con and he looked a little twitchy), but goddamn is it effective in this movie.

Peter Fonda also turns in a great, audience pleasing tough old bastard bounty hunter role. It’s so great to see Fonda so awesome up on the screen again. This dude is a badass and he takes the movie dead seriously. An easy favorite character with some of the best dialog in the movie.

There are a lot of great faces in the movie, but I have to point out Gretchen Mol as Bale’s wife and Alan Tudyk as Doc Potter. Mol is still beautiful and plays a rather thankless role. She loves her husband and family, but she’s also tired of their living conditions. If Mol hadn’t played it with just the right balance of stern and love then the character could have become completely unlikable.

Tudyk again gives us a funny, but sweet character. He’s pretty fantastic in the movie, but I worry he might start typecasting himself. You’ll see why if you’re a Tudyk fan…

Mangold also deserves a lot of credit for keeping modern filmmaking out of sight. I think there might be one explosion that is digitally altered, but even that I'm not sure about. There could be digital work all over the movie, but my eye never caught it. It felt totally old school. Just the actors and what they can capture with a moving picture camera.

No review of this film, no heaping of praise, is complete without mentioning Marco Beltrami’s score. I’ve honestly never really been a big fan of his music. I think my favorite scores he’s done were on SCREAM and HELLBOY, but most of the time I don’t really dig on his music, but damn. He knocked it out of the park here. It’s not comically western, but it’s so western through and through. It could be over the top if it wasn’t so damn good.

So, rejoice. There is finally a great western on the silver screen again and it’s not only a smart character movie, but an action flick… a good action flick. I’m excited to see it again.

-Quint
quint@aintitcool.com







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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:00:22 AM CDT

    first?

    by superfleish76

    Just thought I'd see

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:10:03 AM CDT

    Been gunning for this one...

    by killakane

    Nice see Beltrami getting props for his score, he's shaping up in a really diverse talent, Three Burials was a terrific score, and in similar territory to Yuma. Crowe excells in this kind of milieu, as does Bale who is about the most consistently good Brit acting talent of late. I'm there for the 3.10.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:13:34 AM CDT

    Can't wait to see this!

    by leckomaniac

    I have been excited since the cast was announced. Glad the wait is almost over.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:13:45 AM CDT

    Open Range was a great western

    by pviii

    you know it.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:19:13 AM CDT

    No love for OPEN RANGE ?

    by daddylonghead

    I thought that was an amazing Western. You know, 3:10 had a lot of things going for it, and I'm glad they all worked out. Count me in for this one.
    Speaking of Crowe, I was re-watching MASTER AND COMMANDER the other day... fuck, what a great flick. How about a sequel to that!?!? Plenty of source material.
    And anyone who gives Crowe shit obviously is some tabloid-reading middle-american slackjaw. All I know about Russell Crowe is that his acting, from all the way back in ROMPER STOMPER, has been consistently excellent... magnetic, even. Charisma like his is all too rare on the modern screen.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:20:09 AM CDT

    Check out the One sheets and Quad posters for this...

    by killakane

    Great designs, sums up the old school trad western grit to perfection.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:20:16 AM CDT

    I love everything about this, except Mangold

    by garbageman33

    He seems completely incapable of subtlety. In fact, I thought Walk the Line was one of the most hamfisted movies in recent memory. I mean, what else do you call a movie in which a 6-year-old kid says, "Why are you so good"? You know, just in case we didn't catch that Johnny Cash's brother was the favorite. There are a ton of scenes like that (June murmuring ring of fire, ring of fire, ring of fire, just to make sure we know she's writing the song, you guessed it, "Ring of Fire"). But hey, I'm looking forward to this in spite of him.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:20:18 AM CDT

    No it wasn't PVIII

    by talkbacker with no name

    It was a fantastic Western and YOU know it! :)

    When 3:10 hits the UK I'm there opening morning!

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:23:55 AM CDT

    I'm really excited to see this movie

    by greyspecter

    As long as it's a true western and not some tripe like American Outlaws.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:26:16 AM CDT

    Garbageman33

    by daddylonghead

    I didn't see Walk the Line, but I did see Copland and Heavy. Heavy was quite subtle... maybe more subtle than it needed to be, and Copland was very much in a Western tradition, albeit set in a different milieu.

    I'm not sure a good Western needs to be subtle, anyways... oughtn't it be stark and straight-forward, with commanding acting to bring out the nuance? I mean, when I think of my all-time favorite Westerns... ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST, THE GREAT SILENCE, FOUR FOR THE APOCALYPSE... it's not their subtley I value them for, it's their strange, brutal majesty.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:26:25 AM CDT

    Agreed, Open Range was great

    by forsakyn

    3:10 to Yuma looks pretty promising, too.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:27:47 AM CDT

    sounds awesome

    by liljuniorbrown

    I love a good western and I think this is something we've been waiting for a long time.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:34:37 AM CDT

    hopefully 2 great westerns this fall

    by waggy

    i usually steer clear of remakes, but the talent on this one is undeniable. The Assassination of Jesse James is the one i've really been looking forward to, but based on all the recut stories we've been hearing, it seems we'll have to wait for the inevitable director's cut dvd. i'm in the same boat as you Quint, i couldn't get into westerns either until college. for me, it was the works of Sergio Leone that turned things around. (still can't get into John Wayne though). i guess the western was just too out of the spotlight for our generation.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:40:02 AM CDT

    Blazing Saddles, Silverado

    by aboriginal

    Never be another like it. Never could be in today's walking on eggshells world. Ensemble films are tough to come by nowadays too with the high price for actors unless they see potential in a movie (Ocean's etc.) It'll take good film making like this to get it going again.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:41:48 AM CDT

    open range

    by quint

    I have to admit I haven't seen it yet. I've been meaning to. Everybody loves it now, but I remember when it came out nobody was talking about it. I'll have to catch it. I'm in a western mood after the YUMA screening.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:47:04 AM CDT

    i'm also ready to catch this train

    by occula

    jaysus, that's a lame pun. this movie looks grrreat. GRRRREAT. i too am one of those people who doesn't really think about crowe and then i watch 'master and commander' and i'm just repeatedly blown away. and of course my love for the bale has already been splooged repeatedly over this site. will be great to see two tigers fighting each other. hopefully mangold (who, yes, is hamfisted) will stay out of it and just let them do their thing...

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:48:55 AM CDT

    Open Range was definitely overlooked.

    by daddylonghead

    I caught it as part of a double feature at the drive-in, only because it got such crazily over-the-top buzz in the AICN talkbacks, believe it or not. I remember somebody in a TB comparing it to Peckinpah, and me thinking, Costner in a Peckinpah film, ha ha ha... and then at the drive-in, half-drunk, watching it, laughing about it, and then as it went on my girlfriend making fewer and fewer jokes, becoming increasingly impressed, saying to each other, "wow, this is quite fucking good," and then the lead-up and pacing of the finale absolutely blew us away. It was major, we couldn't believe how good it was. We were almost silent driving home, it was stunning.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:52:17 AM CDT

    cool

    by kwisatzhaderach

    will definitely see this...what has happened to Assassination of Jesse James? The trailer was released last June!

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:53:27 AM CDT

    Christ I miss my girlfriend

    by daddylonghead

    WHY DID YOU LEAVE ME, WHY!?!?!?!?

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:53:48 AM CDT

    Sorry about that

    by daddylonghead

    disregard previous post

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:00:03 PM CDT

    Who needs a girlfriend?

    by garbageman33

    Just beat off to the picture of Midol Girl like everyone else on this site seems to be doing.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:01:29 PM CDT

    Wizard of Oz Remake- is he talking about The Wiz?

    by jugdish

    Cause nobody beats "The Wiz!"

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:05:49 PM CDT

    Let's discuss Westerns

    by daddylonghead

    I am the biggest Bronson freak around, but you know, I've never cared for The Magnificent Seven. I don't like the way it's constructed, I don't like McQueen as a western gunslinger, I find Eli Wallach's bad guy retarded, and I just never get very excited at any point in the movie. Too many main characters, too jumbled. I know it's considered a classic... someone tell me what I'm missing...

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:07:47 PM CDT

    Open Range was highly underrated

    by odysseus

    It had one of the best shoot-out scenes ever. "Are you the son of a bitch who killed my friend?" "Yup." BLAM!

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:08:20 PM CDT

    Magnificent Seven was the Oceans 11 of its time

    by garbageman33

    Seems like they just gathered up the biggest stars of the day and threw them together, with no real regard for whether the pieces fit or not.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:13:41 PM CDT

    No love for Tombstone, either.

    by thatopieguy

    While nowhere near as powerful a film as Unforgiven, still it was exactly what the Young Guns films wanted to be: a great western for the MTV generation.

    The Wizard of Oz was a remake?

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:23:33 PM CDT

    I have to agree...

    by broosethescharuk

    ...with those who praise Open Range. I am not generally a Costner fan, but still consider it to be one of my all-time favourite westerns. It reminds me of Shane, except without the creepy atmosphere and innuendo (both factors I love about Shane, by the way). And it's a "real" western; no "revisionism" or ironic posturing. A real classic, sadly overlooked. If Kevin Costner made only westerns, I would probably see all of his movies theatrically. As it is, I generally dismiss everything he does outright.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:36:13 PM CDT

    Oh, and Daddylonghead...

    by broosethescharuk

    ...I agree with you about Magnificent Seven. Classic case of a cheap Hollywood "re-interpretation" of a Japanese masterpiece, that misses the point. I just don't even understand why anyone would watch it when they could be watching Seven Samurai. Proof that mainstream American cinema has been creatively deficient for decades. Samurai retold for shitkickers who don't like foreigners or subtitles. A predecessor -- in spirit and intent -- to Shall We Dance with Richard Gere.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:37:47 PM CDT

    Another great review

    by astrozombies

    Quint, you do a great job of reveiwing movies without giving away too many spoilers.
    Yes, check out Open Range, plus John Wayne's Big Jake (unrated great movie)

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:43:01 PM CDT

    I've been trying to get into Westerns recently.

    by rbatty024

    At a young age I tried to watch westerns but was turned off by John Wayne. Even at as I kid I found him to be over the top and grating. It was the first time I could remember being able to spot bad acting. However, I've been trying to get back into the genre. I just watched The Outlaw Josey Wales which was great. I also really enjoyed The Proposition. I'll have to check out 3:10 to Yuma. I always thought that after Brokeback Mountain, which had lots of western elements in it, the studios would start taking risks on more traditional western fare. Maybe that's finally coming true.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:44:19 PM CDT

    Open Range

    by thedohdoh

    Haven't thought of this movie in years. I'll queue it up as well. Thanks guys.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:45:39 PM CDT

    Deadwood?

    by purgatori

    Do you think that the series success may have played a part in this getting made? I've been waiting for a GOOD western since Tombstone.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:45:50 PM CDT

    Crowe vs. Bale

    by mooly

    Why does one get shit and the other doesn't? Maybe because Bale disappears after a movie while Crowe seems intent on doing everything he can to make a public ass out of himself...at least until recently. People generally don't like it when actors make millions per film but then act like a child throwing a tantrum in their real life.

    Also, Bale has done a number of different roles and immerses himself completely. You compared Psycho to Batmen but what about the Machinist even? You'd hardly know they are the same person. On the other hand, while Crowe can be a very good actor, he has recently fallen into the trap of making the same sappy, inspirational halmark movie over and over since The Insider. Gladiator was the one exception I would argue. 3:10 will be good for Crowe as it not only comes out during his change in behaviour, but it also gives him a new and interesting character to play.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:45:51 PM CDT

    glad to see

    by pikagreg

    open range getting the love. I thought i was the only one who cared for this movie. Duvall rocks

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:50:11 PM CDT

    Open Range is stellar

    by canada's king

    And 3:10 is coming out at right around the same time as it.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 12:54:24 PM CDT

    Open Range IS a classic...

    by elvis cole lives

    And its stature just grows with time. I rank it alongside Tombstone, Unforgiven, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The Magnificent Seven, Shane, The Searchers, Silverado The Sons of Katie Elder, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Rio Bravo, The Good The Bad and the Ugly, and True Grit as one of the all-time greats. Like those, I rarely miss an opportunity to watch it.It definitely meets my definition of a "great" movie. What's that? A "great" movie is one that when you're channel surfing, any time, day or night, you stop and watch straight on till the end. No matter where in the flick you find yourself, no matter what else is on, a great flick is one that you always want to watch. Open Range (and the aforementioned Westerns) is one of those.3:10 To Yuma is also fantastic and I can't wait for the remake.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:01:56 PM CDT

    OPEN RANGE is balls to the wall tough as shit

    by triplefive

    Costner made an alternately beautiful and fucking savage film. Open Range MUST be seen, Quint!!!

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:10:43 PM CDT

    Open range

    by supersize

    Is a damned good movie ! Broken trail was suprisingly good for a mini series

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:13:20 PM CDT

    i'm really excited about seeing this, but

    by charlie murphy

    i think it comes out on the same day as shoot em up, another film i'm dying to see. i haven't decided which one gets opening night honors.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:13:40 PM CDT

    BrooseTheScharuk

    by elvis cole lives

    You know, dude, I can totally understand NOT liking The Magnificent Seven. Really. But to say that Magnificent Seven is "for shitkickers who don't like foreigners or subtitles" is ridiculous. Not to mention calling it "[a] predecessor -- in spirit and intent -- to Shall We Dance with Richard Gere." Makes you sound like a completely elitist tool, which I'm sure that you're not. You calling Kurosawa himself a "shitkicker" who "doesn't like foreigners or subtitles" caused he, too, loved the remake? The Magnificent Seven was a HUGE success when it was released and continues to be loved by many, like myself who are neither "shitkickers" nor loathers of "foreign films and subtitles." I love both The Magnificent Seven and The Seven Samurai, sometimes for the same reasons and sometimes for completely different reasons. Just like Mr. Kurosawa himself.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:16:32 PM CDT

    Is that you John Wane?Is this me?

    by abner pepper

    I never used to like John Wayne either.But now Rio Bravo is one of my favourite movies.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:21:53 PM CDT

    Open Range was great

    by samuel fulmer

    example of what Hollywood/indie film makers could be doing with the western genre. Instead of mature westerns like Open Range, most of what we get(if anything!!) are more Young Guns clones like American Outlaws and Texas Rangers. Contrary to what some may think, Open Range actually did preaty well at the box office domestically (it cost 25 million to make and made 60 million) The western is a terrific film genre that still has a lot of life left in it, it just needs to attract more quality talent. And to those that say that Blazing Saddles killed the genre, I don't think that's true. It just made it next to impossible to make a classical generic western, just like Abbot and Costello Meet Frankenstein did the same for Universal horror films. The western can be a viable film genre, it just needs to stray from being too cliche. Really that can go for any genre.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:26:40 PM CDT

    Sort of Surprised Harrison Ford

    by samuel fulmer

    never did a real western (and no, The Frisco Kid doesn't count). Seems like he would've been perfect. Too bad he didn't do one in the early '90s instead of Oscar bait like Regarding Henry.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:28:19 PM CDT

    QUINT...

    by mr. nice gaius

    ... thanks for the review. I'm definitely looking forward to this film and Bale's/Crowe's performances. Looks good.Also, I must add my appreciation for OPEN RANGE. It's definitely an overlooked gem of a movie. One thing you'll notice is the very naturalized (sometimes stilted) tone of the dialog. The characters do their best to be polite and civil despite the rustic setting and/or the present situation. Reminds me of DEADWOOD in that sense (but with considerably less vulgarity). A very believable film both in tone and action. You should definitely check it out!

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:31:23 PM CDT

    We really need a solid LONE RANGER movie

    by spyguy

    You know, one like the current comic book series by Dynamite. Hell, just take the first six issues and use it as a storyboard and you're halfway there.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:37:23 PM CDT

    I'm glad to see some love for Open Range

    by darthmartel

    I was also a big fan of Kevin Costner's Wyatt Earp. I enjoyed Tombstone as well but, felt there were certain parts that just didn't work. To me, the definitive Wyatt Earp movie was the movie of the same name. Perhaps if Val Kilmer would have been in Costner's instead of Tombstone then Costner's would get more love. I felt his Doc Holiday superior to Dennis Quaid's.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:38:48 PM CDT

    RE: Robert Duvall

    by mr. nice gaius

    Several years ago, I used to date a girl who worked at Duvall's restaurant in Virginia. And according to her, he and his buddies seemed to have little to no problem flirting with the staff. Anyway, it fizzled out between her and I and she eventually left to do some modeling in Canada. Yeah.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:42:27 PM CDT

    Red River = Best western ever

    by sicksauce

    John Wayne was the fucking man

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:46:08 PM CDT

    Gaius, I think I fucked that bitch once...

    by lanemyersclassic

    she looked like a moose. I guess that's how she got the job in Canada.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:51:43 PM CDT

    Kurosawa and Remakes...

    by mdf2

    I love 'Seven Samurai' and can't comment on 'Magnificent Seven', its merits or defects.

    But it reminds me of this possibly apocryphal Kurosawa story:

    Kurosawa was told by an indignant friend that a recent American film was an unauthorized retelling of 'Yojimbo' and he should sue.

    Kurosawa replied that he couldn't...because he'd taken the original idea for 'Yojimbo' and 'lone man pits opposing sides against each other' from Dashiell Hammet's novel 'Red Harvest'.

    That said, I don't think Kurosawa was a deliberate, out and out plagiarist (and I know as a fan I'm biased) he was just well aware that no idea exists in a vaccuum, and everyone is always influenced by what went and what they've personally experienced...even if they don't realize it.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:54:42 PM CDT

    LaneMyersClassic

    by mr. nice gaius

    Well, you couldn't be more wrong on her looks. But she definitely had a rack like a moose.Get it?Nevermind. I got nothing.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 1:59:57 PM CDT

    I enjoyed SERAPHIM FALLS

    by slone13

    I'm also cautious of Mangold's directing. IDENTITY was complete shit, then again it was written by guy who wrote JACK FROST (not the Keaton one either).

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:20:51 PM CDT

    Finally the title makes sense

    by bringingsexyback

    Had no clue what this was about for weeks. Now I really want to see it.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:22:08 PM CDT

    I used to out my Lone Ranger and Tonto dolls under

    by bringingsexyback

    the table so they can have teh buttseks. Does that make me gay?

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:26:57 PM CDT

    Brokeback Mountain was a great western where's the love

    by bringingsexyback

    Just ignore teh buttseks

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:28:43 PM CDT

    They couldn't find two American actors to do this?

    by bringingsexyback

    What next? Cowboys from India?

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:28:46 PM CDT

    Lone Ranger = Zorro = crap

    by daddylonghead

    I don't care if there's some gay new comic out, the Lone Ranger is stupid. Let's talk about actual serious movie Westerns, not the fucking lone ranger. Next someone is going to bring up Preacher.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:30:43 PM CDT

    As far as Western superheroes, my vote goes to...

    by rbatty024

    Jonah Hex. If you're a fan of Westerns I would recommend picking up the monthly Jonah Hex comic. Mdf2, that's an interesting story. I think Red Harvest, Yojimbo, and A Fistfull of Dollars all have their unique take. Although there are huge differences between Red Harvest and Yojimbo. Only the basic outline of pitting crime families against one another is similar. Everything else is completely different.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:33:43 PM CDT

    What is Fonda doing in this?

    by aloy

    Surprised there is no mention after the interview here the other day.
    I've got Open Range on the D.L. as we speak, looking forward to this after all the love shown here.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:34:34 PM CDT

    No love for Dances with Wolves?

    by jugdish

    C'mon now- that movie blows Tombstone away...Open Range is a classic

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:37:55 PM CDT

    No Americans because....

    by samuel fulmer

    all of our actors who could pull it off or are either dead or too old. Who wants to see someone like Shia LaBeef in a western???? Really, who was the last American tough guy actor to come along? Vin Diesel is the only one I can think of at the moment.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:38:14 PM CDT

    ok, it's AICN, fine, bring on the fucking superheroes

    by daddylonghead

    I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DANIEL DAY-LEWIS AS THE ORIGINAL SILVER-AGE DC COMICS "SUPER-CHIEF," BUT ONLY IF THEY STAY TRUE TO HIS GIANT BUFFALO-HEAD LIKE IN THE COMICS AND DON'T RUIN IT LIKE THEY DID WITH JUDGE DREDD... etc etc etc

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:39:38 PM CDT

    FRISCO KID counts

    by slone13

    Why wouldn't it? Next you'll be telling me SILVERADO doesn't count either.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:41:15 PM CDT

    Winchester '73

    by tattooedbillionaire

    I finally got a chance to check this one out a few days back. To say the least, I was really blown away by it. I liked it even more than Jimmy Stewart's other wester, Destry Rides Again.

    Oh, and I can't wait to see this one.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:41:55 PM CDT

    Open Range

    by bloo

    I think I talk about this movie every 3:10 to Yuma talkback...and anytime Westerns are metnioned, it's such a great great film and I'm glad to seeit getting lots f love here in the Talkbacks, you know we tend to be a bunch of bitching and moaning fanboys but when we find a movie we love, we love it and I'm glad to see that it's inspiring others to see it. QUINT, see Open Range now, you'll be blown away I promise.as for 3:10 I'm so anxious to see this movie it's not even funny

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:42:27 PM CDT

    not one negative for open range

    by pikagreg

    yet...this is really going to blow the lid off the stereo type for "jaded fanboys"

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:43:39 PM CDT

    love the Open Range spooge in this TB

    by pviii

  • Aug 20, 2007 2:47:43 PM CDT

    Don't Know About Cowboys from India

    by mdf2

    But, there's cowboys in Thailand, apparently...

    Tears Of The Black Tiger: http://imdb.com/title/tt0269217/

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:50:48 PM CDT

    Why has nobody mentioned The Long Riders?

    by fingerindyke

    The fact that nobody has even mentioned The Long Riders is amazing to me. Am I the only one who loves this movie? The pedigree of the actors alone demands mention here! Please let me know if I am totally off base. WTF!!

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:52:11 PM CDT

    Don't Know About Cowboys from Thailand

    by daddylonghead

    But, there's Ladyboys for sure...

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:55:43 PM CDT

    dammit

    by the real mirajeff

    u beat me Quint. I've had my review done for a week but have been waiting for the right timeto send it in. I tip my hat to you, sir. we definitely agree on this one, especially on beltrami

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:57:08 PM CDT

    Post your review Mirajeff

    by bringingsexyback

    and show some of your cleavage too.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:58:30 PM CDT

    MiraJeff's Black Box == AICN jumping the shark

    by daddylonghead

    it makes him that much harder to ignore. HEY MIRAJEFF, WHO DIRECTED RAMBO??

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  • Aug 20, 2007 2:58:57 PM CDT

    A lot of western "superheroes" aren't superheroes

    by spyguy

    Apart from the Lone Ranger, Zorro and the '50s Nighthawk, very few of them wore masks or special costumes. Jonah Hex is a scarred-up bounty hunter, Bat Lash is a gambler who attracts trouble, Scalphunter is a guy who was kidnapped and raised by Kiowa Indians as a kid, etc. Plenty of cool properties to develop without asswipes like Daddylonghead citing crap like "Super-Chief" in a failed attempt to be funny.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 3:00:12 PM CDT

    DON'T DISS SUPER-CHIEF

    by daddylonghead

    HE'LL FUCKIN' RAM YOU WITH HIS GIANT BUFFALO HEAD

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  • Aug 20, 2007 3:00:31 PM CDT

    George Cosmatos!!

    by bringingsexyback

    I knew that one.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 3:01:38 PM CDT

    Who directed Empire Strikes Back?

    by bringingsexyback

    That's right, the most overlooked director in Hollywood history.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 3:02:46 PM CDT

    Wrong, BSB... It was Sylvester Stallone

    by daddylonghead

    according to Mirajeff's upcoming negative review of "John Rambo"

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  • Aug 20, 2007 3:07:49 PM CDT

    How could Mirajeff make that mistake?

    by bringingsexyback

    Hello ... imdb.com ... hello ...

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  • Aug 20, 2007 3:11:20 PM CDT

    Tombstone and Cosmatos

    by unlabled

    Loved Tombstone, in fact one of my favorite movies ever. The right mix of star power and 'that guys' in a film. Michael Biehns performance was excellent. The re-watchability of that film is immense.

    Too bad Cosmatos -the director- died, he would have been a natural for 3:10 to Yuma.

    I hope and pray this film lives up to Tombstone.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 3:16:38 PM CDT

    No love for ERHPW?

    by loosejerk

    "Eli Roth's Huge Prosthetic Wang"? That's a real western right there. Right up there with "Suckin' on Superbad's Nuts".

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  • Aug 20, 2007 3:54:03 PM CDT

    I had no clue...

    by mrfan

    it was a remake. Saw the previews for this last week and excited to see it. Thanks for the review Quint. I am looking forward to this one.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 3:55:57 PM CDT

    BringSexyBack

    by dirkd13"

    Wasn't it the guy who went on to make, amongst others, Robocop 2? Irvin Kershner and Empire was a fluke akin to Curtis Hanson and LA Confidential. Still rates as one of my top 3 movies of all time though, just a shame that 'Kersh' never came close again.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 3:58:41 PM CDT

    Westerns

    by series7

    The best Western in recent times hands down has to be Dudes! I don't get the magic of westerns? I saw Open Range in theaters and was like wow I could've just seen the last 15 minutes of the movie and not have been bored for 2 hours. I mean they killed off the The bad guy from Parker Lewis can't Lose and the mexican actor thats not Gael García Bernal way to early and they were the most interesting characters. Tombstone is a horrible movie, I know this because every college cool guy says its their favorite movie (and its on TNT ALL THE TIME, and they know drama trust me). The Proposition was good but I feel asleep like 20 times and had to keep rewinding it. Pale Rider??? Boring. I just do not get the magical lure of westerns, the most fun I've ever had watching a western was during City Slickers, Daniel Stern is the MAN! But still I will see this movie, and the original in hopes that it won't be boring. OH Unforgiven is amazing however, best western ever.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 4:05:42 PM CDT

    Elvis Cole Lives...

    by broosethescharuk

    ...you are right, that did sound pretty elitist. However, I stand by my shitkickers remark, simply because I wasn't so much referring to those who happen to like Magnificent Seven, as I was to the mentality behind making it, that thinks that great foreign films have to be re-imagined in an American setting to make them palatable to American audiences. That -- to me -- is what makes it a predecessor to Shall We Dance. Admittedly, I came out swinging when Daddylonghead confessed his feelings for the film (it's hard to find allies when you question the status of a "classic", and I wanted to throw my bit in there to let him know he wasn't the only one who felt that way), and I meant no disrespect. Many friends whose cnematic opinions I value are huge fans of the film and I personally think it has a great score. As far as Kurosawa's opinion goes, I have no doubt that he liked the film. He loved Hollywood, and westerns. I still think what made a great samurai film only made a mediocre western, though.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 4:48:54 PM CDT

    fingerindyke

    by abner pepper

    Iloved The Long Riders too.Also Ride with the Devil was underrated but maybe it's classed more as a war movie.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 5:04:34 PM CDT

    I haven't seen the original

    by cherryvalance

    I'm not sure how that happened. And I'm not going to before this is released because I think I want to see this without having an anti-remake bias. The only reason I'm doing that is because I want to see what Christian Bale does here since I believe he is possibly the best actor working right now. And with Russell Crowe in it too, I think they'd have a hard time screwing it up.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 5:48:12 PM CDT

    westerns got to be served with spaghetti

    by pipergates

    american westerns are boring

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  • Aug 20, 2007 6:09:25 PM CDT

    I want to be perfectly fair, so...

    by lenny nero

    ...I would just like to say that "The Proposition" bored me to tears. I am very willing to listen to why it's a great movie (let's move the fact that it's written by Nick Cave out of the equation for now) and I could give it a second chance. Unlike most AICN talkbackers, and the American president, I'm willing to change my opinion with true and proper dissent and discussion. Tell me what the big deal was. Keep in mind I LOVE a good Western.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 6:42:28 PM CDT

    interesting question lenny

    by occula

    i enjoyed the proposition but in retrospect i'm not sure why. there wasn't anything groundbreaking about it, by any means. i did think the cinematography was elegiac and exquisite, in its own beautiful australian wilderness kinda-way. maybe it was also the non-black-and-white aspect of the characters that people - myself included - were intrigued by. that is, of course, one of the things that made 'unforgiven' so brilliant - everybody did bad things for good reasons, or vice versa. same with the proposition - in fact, i think my favorite character was emily watson's, because she was actually a HORRIBLE person who wallowed in her own insular world and yet we felt sympathy for her. interesting. so maybe it's in the characters (and the actors playing them? guy pearce is pretty darned good at what he does) and not so much the overall story, which was fairly simplistic.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 6:45:05 PM CDT

    Yeah, I enjoyed the Long Riders.

    by mrfan

    Thought it was a stroke of genius to get real siblings to play the parts in the movie.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 6:45:12 PM CDT

    I walked out of The Proposition

    by daddylonghead

    a staggering failure of a film. Only a truly gifted alchemist could take so many interesting raw ingredients and transmute them into such a punishingly dull viewing experience. Not just dull, mind you.... punishingly, assaultingly, offensively, inexcusably dull.

    I can't say it strongly enough. The Proposition fails to entertain the way a tsunami fails to dry you. The Proposition is to entertainment what a car bomb is to the functioning of an Iraqi security checkpoint: It not only does not entertain, it unentertains so profoundly as to imperil the very possibility of any future entertainment.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 6:51:59 PM CDT

    I know its not a "true" western

    by pikagreg

    but I enjoyed the hell out of quigly down under. let the talkback beating begin. but I truly enjoy most any movie where alan rickman is an evil asshole, because he does it oh so well.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 8:38:59 PM CDT

    Quint! You must see Open Range.

    by jaka

    And that's all I'll say on that. However, coming from an age of films that didn't have a lot of Westerns, I love Dances With Wolves, Unforgiven, Open Range and The Proposition (a recently discovered new favorite!). That being said, I'm really looking forward to 3:10 To Yuma. So much so, in fact, that I didn't read your review yet. There's been little enough said about this film that I know almost nothing other than the actors involved. That's pretty exciting, because I don't get to see movies that way too often anymore. What with the giant hype machines "working" films a year before their releases.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 9:38:59 PM CDT

    Pipergates, I agree that the best westerns...

    by rbatty024

    come from Italy. I hated westerns until I saw The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. They have the grit and the complexity that's missing from most American westerns (with the exception of High Noon). At least the one's I've seen that were made before the Spaghetti Western. High Noon might be my favorite. It's up there with The Crucible as far as political allegories.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 9:55:03 PM CDT

    the dramatic from-below shots and leone's music

    by pipergates

    makes them cowboys so much more interesting

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  • Aug 20, 2007 10:09:19 PM CDT

    how come the jonah hex movie hasnt been posted?

    by pipergates

    that's one movie tailer-made for this site, the news came out weeks ago.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 10:21:21 PM CDT

    BLOOD MERIDIAN

    by mr. nice gaius

    I patiently await Sir Ridley Scott and William Monahan's adaption of Cormac McCarthy's BLOOD MERIDIAN. Much like THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY, this should be a Western with a near-mythical tone... especially in the portrayal of its central antagonist.I believe this is still slated for a 2009 release. And if Scott somehow manages to capture the horror and filth of McCarthy's nightmare-of-a-Western, it will make THE PROPOSITION look like a day at the pool.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 10:30:15 PM CDT

    Blueberry is an under-appreciated classic

    by pipergates

    too bad the great website the movie had seems to be down, it even shoved the creator Moebius joining them during the filming in mexico.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 10:34:35 PM CDT

    Quigley Down Under is great

    by osmosis jones

    Tom Selleck getting his chance to play Indiana Jones, gorgeous cinematography, a kick-ass Basil Poledouris score, and Laura San Giacomo spilling cleavage all over the place. What's not to love? 3:10 To Yuma looks pretty damn good, and the cast is a dream.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 10:38:47 PM CDT

    I was bored to death by this film

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    I didn't even think it was well shot.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 10:44:06 PM CDT

    Oh, MASTER AND COMMANDER deserves more love, too.

    by odysseus

    Brilliant, but underappreciated.

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  • Aug 20, 2007 10:46:00 PM CDT

    blood meridian sounds awesome ...+ scott , wow

    by pipergates

    who's going to play the judge i wonder...

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  • Aug 20, 2007 11:50:44 PM CDT

    Open Range

    by snakesonabicycle

    Vomit. It's not underrated. It's a byproduct of a genre barely on life support. Earnest, yes. Sappy, even more so. I found the whole thing to be annoying. Mexican kid. Annoying as fuck. Robert Duvall's grumpy old man. Unoriginal and annoying as fuck. Annette Benning. Boring/Annoying. Costner's dark past. And the big dumb retard from ER getting trounced is the cataylst for it all? Go fuck yourself in the ass with your big pair of Virtual Gameboy visors from 1995 if you like this movie. You wanna talk hamfisted? You wanna lack of subtely? You already are if you're talking about this movie. You know it feels like it's the predetermined "cool" opinion to have on this particular message board for some reason. A lame attempt to seem intelligent by backing something that was not initially, nor will ever be, popular. Unforgiven. Great. Once Upon A Time. Pretty close to fucking perfect. The Good The Bad And The Ugly. Bow your heads. But this sad attempt to regain some cred by a fucking hack actor who feels he needed to repent for the sins of Waterworld and Postman is just bad.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 12:10:42 AM CDT

    Another great review mate...

    by sg7

    ...and you did it without half a page if irrelevant life story BS about your wang. Good job!

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  • Aug 21, 2007 12:46:13 AM CDT

    I miss the Lone Ranger...

    by theghostwholurks

    I got a DVD of some of the old shows last year, and watching them, was reminded how inspirational that whole show was. Personally, I'd love for someone to make a new movie based on it, as long as they don't go the whole "The Lone Ranger's an ignorant @$$ and Tonto is the one with brains" route so many comics have gone the past decade. Give today's kids someone to look up to.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 1:15:48 AM CDT

    Frankie Laine´s song

    by cuervojones

    Do they use it?

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  • Aug 21, 2007 1:22:26 AM CDT

    John Ford is God

    by cuervojones

    Best director ever.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 1:52:45 AM CDT

    Brokeback Mountain...

    by redjester

    ... was a great western and a touching love story, even if all you homophobes out there are afraid to admit it!

    I mean granted seeing two guys go at it isn't my cup of tea but seeing some guys face getting smashed in isn't my cup of tea either, but if it helps tell the story better and make an overall better film than so be it.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 1:55:04 AM CDT

    Brokeback Mountain was NOT a western

    by cuervojones

  • Aug 21, 2007 2:12:03 AM CDT

    Depends how you define Western.

    by redjester

    If a movie has to be an unrealistic shoot em up cowboy indian flick (with a duel with those little bales of hay going across the screen and the final shoot out always taking place in an empty looking town and everyone always shooting way more accurately than guns of the times were able to shoot) than no it wasn't but if that's the case than, in my opinion, Westerns are too narrowly focused to be even remotely original anyways and should be done aways with.


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  • Aug 21, 2007 5:46:57 AM CDT

    There's some shit being talked in this TB

    by lost prophet

    Shane? with the most annoying kid ever cast in any film ever, as the best western? No waaaaay. I love western's and hate costner so Open range was a challenge for me. hated it. The proposition is not a failure. Still looking forward to this even though it has Russell Crowe in it.BTW MOM- Congrats for proving your utter humourlessness in that other TB by posting an essay in response to an insult. Fartknocker.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 5:56:49 AM CDT

    The Long Riders, Quigley Down Under, and ..............

    by red dawn don

    Once Upon A Time In The West, are all at Wally-Mart in $5 rack, while supplies last. OUATITW is the double disc version, too. Pissed me off since I paid well over $10 for it last year. Enjoy. I just saw MY DARLING CLEMENTINE with Henry Fonda on PBS. I loved how Marshall Earp sat on the porch balanceing in the back 2 legs of the chair. Also, MDC is the movie being shown in TV's MASH when the rain wrecks the projector. It has the line "Earp, Wyatt Earp". James Bond "borrowed" this many years later.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 6:09:07 AM CDT

    Westerns

    by cuervojones

    Westerns are devoted to telling stories set primarily in the later half of the 19th century in what became the Western United States (known as the American Old West)

    Brokeback Mountain was a good drama about shepherds set some decades ago.

    Anyway, the Best Western Movie is The Searchers.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 6:21:21 AM CDT

    I Just Saw The Trailer For 3:10 To Yuma ....... At IMDB

    by red dawn don

    It looks like it has a similar theme as High Noon. One man left alone to stand up to the baddies. A bit of movie trivia: John Wayne turned down the lead in High Noon, it later went to Gary Cooper. JW said that it was "Un-American" for one man to be deserted by friends to fight alone. Funny, JW was later the presenter to GC of his Oscar for the High Noon role. Must have been a bitter pill to swallow.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 6:26:31 AM CDT

    Ben Foster

    by papa lazaru

    Just watched Alpha Dog last night actually and I had never heard of Ben Foster before and then of course I read this review and lo and behold he's in this too .
    Isn't weird how stuff like that happens.
    Anyway , I thought Alpha Dog was decent enough , but Foster was terrific in it . So to hear he is in Yuma , means that I'm looking forward to this even more then I was already . Bale is on such a run of good form at the moment that I'd ( to dust of an old cliché ) watch him read the phone book

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  • Aug 21, 2007 7:00:49 AM CDT

    The Original

    by dr.zeus

    3:10 to Yuma is one of my all time favorite westerns Quint. You just don't get many actors better than Glenn Ford. And I have to say that "Bad Day at Black Rock" although not set in the "old west" but takes place in the west. Is as good a "standoff" western as anyone might want to see. Spencer Tracy was brilliant in it. And I have to admit that I hadn't planned on catching this in the theatre, but you've definately peaked my curiosity Quint, Thanks!

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  • Aug 21, 2007 7:12:46 AM CDT

    was not a fan of this being remade

    by palewook

    BUT its a rare case when the I'm willing to spend cash to see the remake. Because I believe they have treated the original with a degree of respect and haven't created some half thought out bastard stepchild. So, looking forward to this remake. First time, I've said that in a long time.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 8:06:03 AM CDT

    Open Range-Best Action In Ages

    by dannyocean01

    Yes, there are a fair few hokey lines in there, but thankfully the acting makes them great, especially that, 'I ain't never had a problem killing' one from Kostner. The final 20mins or so with that shootout is amazing, esp. that first shot that really shows off the sound work done on the film. It all feels far more authentic than any modern action film; you get hit by a shotgun, you and the wall behind you is going to know about it. Let's hope Blood Meridian gets made. And damn, after reading the book, I cannot wait to see The Assassination of Jesse James etc.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 8:39:25 AM CDT

    looking forward to this...

    by just pillow talk

    I think the combo of Bale and Crowe is intriguing..and a good ol' western ta boot! Count me in too for more Open Range praise. The shootout seemed fairly realistic and the acting I thought was good. I didn't even mind Bening.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 9:01:13 AM CDT

    best scene in open range

    by palewook

    is kostner dealing with the main hired gun. pretty much added this movie to the best 50 westerns ever made b/c of a single scene.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 9:04:33 AM CDT

    Memories-Of-Murder

    by pviii

    Putting 'There Will Be Blood' and 'Heavens Gate' in the same post brought up bad memories of people flaming on PTA for supposedly copying shot-for-shot Malick.

    Of most of the movies coming out this year, I think 'There Will Be Blood' is at the top. I hope it doesn't disappoint after PTA's 4-year hiatus (what a baby).

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  • Aug 21, 2007 9:05:46 AM CDT

    Westerns...1

    by lerkst

    If Lonesome Dove had been made by HBO in current times, and was as graffic as the book, it would probably stand as the best. The original mini is great, but very much of it's time

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  • Aug 21, 2007 9:09:42 AM CDT

    Westerns..2

    by lerkst

    Someone mentioned Once upon a Time in the West as best western. This may be impossible to dispute...the opening 10 minutes alone is possibly the finest opening sequence of the genre...perhaps of all film. It should be watched---Bronson's best western role. Open Range is a modern Masterpiece--Duvall's performance was beyond Oscar. His reactions to everything that happens---pitch perfect. As odd as it may sound, I would say the best western of the last two years, didn't even take PLACE in the old west. But it's a western in theme, and motivation. Cronenberg's A History of Violence. Watch it again, with this in mind...it may change your view of the film.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 9:25:26 AM CDT

    Yes - once again 'Open Range' wins the Oscar for...

    by workshed

    ...jack shit. One of the finest films of the decade and imho the feather in Costner's cap. Who gives a shit what the critics think at the time..? Let Costner make another western - he's one actor alongside Eastwood who truly understands the genre. Would be nice to see them in a Western together.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 9:40:59 AM CDT

    The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada...

    by workshed

    was also a damn fine 'Western'.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 9:54:28 AM CDT

    Three Burials, ehh.

    by daddylonghead

    preachy and weird, I thought. Not an awful movie, but not a particularly good one.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 9:57:28 AM CDT

    Open Range

    by refuge5

    Just watched it again last week - very, very good movie! I can't wait to see Yuma...

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  • Aug 21, 2007 10:15:48 AM CDT

    So you did.

    by lost prophet

    My favourite sunday afternoon, to be watched when stuffed to the gills and half pissed is easily Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid. This might just be me though

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  • Aug 21, 2007 10:17:02 AM CDT

    fucksticks, typo- meant to say:

    by lost prophet

    My favourite sunday afternoon, to be watched when stuffed to the gills and half-pissed western is easily Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid. This might just be me though

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  • Aug 21, 2007 10:46:53 AM CDT

    The Proposition was PHENOM.

    by stormwatcher

    Once Upon a Time.... and G.B Ugly are my two favorites

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  • Aug 21, 2007 10:53:50 AM CDT

    So Tudyk doesn't play a pirate in this one?

    by smerdyakov

    Because I like pirates!

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  • Aug 21, 2007 10:58:48 AM CDT

    Open Range, Silverado, and now...3:10 To Yuma!!!

    by ninja nerd

    I love Westerns. Grew up thinking there was nothing better than John Wayne in a cowboy hat. True Grit, The Cowboys, etc. were absolute joys. I thought I wouldn't see any good Westerns again until Silverado came out. The cast almost overwhelms the film, but I still love it. I was sold from the opening with Scott Glenn being ambushed in the cabin. Wow! Then, Open Range came out. And damn, it's the best thing in the genre in 20 years...literally. Now, two of my favorite actors are in 3:10 To Yuma. I am see there when this opens!!! I should note that I was born and raised in Oklahoma, on my grandparents farm. My grandpa, 1/4 Cherokee, taught me how to shoot before I was 10. He evidently knew his stuff...I qualified Marksman before I went to Nam. If he were still alive, I'd take him to see this film. Thanks for the great review, Quint!!!

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  • Aug 21, 2007 11:04:55 AM CDT

    Just seen the trailer

    by king sweyn forkbeard

    And I'm officially stoked.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 12:32:19 PM CDT

    Where the fuck is YUMA anyway?

    by smerdyakov

    And why can't I take the red eye.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 12:32:24 PM CDT

    Tombstone and Quigley

    by terry the geek

    Are both great films. Everybody I know personally like Tombstone so I never have understood why some film geeks are snobby over it.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 12:36:51 PM CDT

    THIS REVIEW NEEDS A PHOTO...

    by the breasts of midol girl

    OF US! NOW THAT WOULD BE A REVIEW WORTH READING.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 1:20:12 PM CDT

    Quigley Down Under...can't believe I forgot that one!

    by ninja nerd

    Quigley...very good movie. I guess the fact that it was in Australia instead of Texas kept me from thinking it was a Western. That said, I still think Open Range and Silverado are the best of the genre since the days of the Duke. I liked Wyatt Earp and Tombstone, but they didn't feel the same. Quigley was good and I thought a sequel or even a prequel showing how Matthew got his skills with a Colt revolver would have been doable.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 1:22:01 PM CDT

    I love "Hang 'Em High", High Plains Drifter.....

    by smerdyakov

    And one eyed cats,

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  • Aug 21, 2007 2:46:02 PM CDT

    RBattym Thank You...

    by mdf2

    Glad you liked the story, but I think you completed it for me. I believe 'Fistful of Dollars' was the movie I was trying to remember.

    Spaghetti westerns were such a great mix. An American

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  • Aug 21, 2007 3:05:03 PM CDT

    Sorry, that's R Batty -- no m...err...

    by mdf2

    Hit post before I realized I hadn't finished typing. Oops.

    The end of that post should also have read something like: 'Spaghetti westerns are such an interesting mix. Italian (and I believe Japanese in some cases) takes on an American tradition.

    Being Canadian, we haven't really had what you could call a Western.
    We just let them be filmed here. ;)

    A historically accurate Canadian Western would have a Royal Canadian Mountie trying to stop American whiskey traders coming over the Alberta border.
    That's how the Mounties started.

    I doubt it would get much of a US release, though. ;)

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  • Aug 21, 2007 3:35:30 PM CDT

    The Wizard of Oz Remake

    by hodag007

    The 1939 movie is a remake in name only. Here is a link to the 1925 version

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0016544/

    A Toymaker tells a bizarre story about how the Land of Oz was ruled by Prince Kynd, but he was overthrown by Prime Minister Kruel. Dorothy learns from Aunt Em that fat, cruel Uncle Henry is not her uncle, and gives her a note due on her eighteenth birthday, which reveals she is actually Princess Dorothea of Oz, and is supposed to marry Prince Kynd. She, Uncle Henry , and two farmhands are swept to Oz by a tornado. Snowball, a black farmhand soon joins them after a lightning bolt chases him into the sky. They land in Oz, where the farmhands try to avoid capture. Semon becomes a scarecrow, Hardy briefly disguises himself as a Tin Woodman, and Snowball is given a Lion suit by the Wizard, which he uses to scare the Pumperdink guards. Written by Scott Hutchins {scottandrewh@home.com}

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  • Aug 21, 2007 4:35:07 PM CDT

    re:Tombstone

    by bloo

    now I love Tombstone, I watch it and enjoy it, for a long time I only saw bits and pieces of Wyatt Earp and never really cared for Quaid's performance as Doc. Both stories are about Earp, both are told obviously from Earp's perspective, Tombstone chose to focus on the Earps in Tombstone and the aftermath, with it's actiony sequences. Earp went for the longer story, the slower story and I think that's why it suffers most is it doesn't have the action that we have come to associate with the Western. I think that if we would have had a Tombstone/Wyat Earp mash up it would have been perfect, take the pitch note perfect cast of Tombstone, with Earp's script and Costner's direction, I think ti would have made for a perfect movie

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  • Aug 21, 2007 4:40:45 PM CDT

    A Couple Of Low-Budget Western's That Are Memorable Are

    by red dawn don

    CHATO'S LAND, Charles Bronson was kick-ass red-skin wiping out the possee. ULZANA'S LAST RAID, A very fierce western with Burt Lancaster as an old army scout mentoring a naive Bruce Davison. THE MOUNTAIN MEN, Charlton Heston and company in the early west. JERIMIAH JOHNSON, Robert Redford with a 50 caliber (Hawkins?) rifle and indians out for cemetery revenge everywhere. All the above get little respect.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 7:06:45 PM CDT

    some other overlooked westerns of recent years ...

    by toe jam

    "the missing." didn't ron howard opt out of the maligned "alamo" movie to direct it? if so, wise choice. "the missing" was brutal, and eric schweig was one of the scariest bad guys in the last few years. really good movie. and will i get flamed if i share my affinity for "maverick"? not a great movie, by any stretch of the imagination, but still entertaining as hell. definitely not in the same league as "open range" or (from the sounds of it) this "3:10 to yuma" remake, which has been one of my most anticipated movies since it was first announced (wasn't tom cruise originally cast in the russell crowe role?). and ben foster is a badass. hard to believe he's that same geeky kid from disney's "flashback" (or whatever it was called). his performance in "alpha dog," i thought, was brilliant.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 7:56:35 PM CDT

    Shit, And

    by jaka

    Shit, I forgot about Silverado. I love that one too. Costner before he started playing every roll as Costner, Glover NOT in a Lethal Weapon movie, and Goldblum before he disappeared.

    And, I'd just like to clarify that, speaking for myself, I did not say that Open Range was underrated, only that I love it. And I do. It's not perfect, but it worked for me.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 8:13:16 PM CDT

    wasn't impressed

    by bloo

    with The Missing but I may have to take another look at it, now Mavrick on the other hand is just a bunch of fun. Nothing serious about it just fun, was that Jodie Foster's last (intentional) comedy?

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  • Aug 21, 2007 8:45:38 PM CDT

    AnimalStructure

    by jaka

    They were OK, but would have been better if they were each trimmed an hour. I believe even Costner has said that they'd do things differently if they had a do over on those.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 8:47:02 PM CDT

    Lerkst/Lonesome Dove

    by jaka

    I remember absolutely LOVING this mini-series when it originally aired. But I recently purchased the DVDs and I was greatly disappointed. It just didn't move me at all. Maybe I should give it another chance.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 8:53:43 PM CDT

    Another Costner western, Shit Part Deux

    by jaka

    Considering his count on baseball films, as well as the budget vs. gross for Open Range ($22m vs $68m worldwide) I'm pretty sure Costner will make another western.

    And shit again! I forgot Tombstone, which I prefer GREATLY when compared to Wyatt Earp. Val Kilmer brilliance, my huckleberry.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 10:03:17 PM CDT

    Best Westerns

    by odysseus

    The Good, Bad, and the Ugly; My Darling Clementine; The Wild Bunch; Unforgiven; Open Range.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 11:35:55 PM CDT

    Tombstone is the best

    by cherryvalance

    I've seen my fair share of older westerns and I still think Tombstone is the best. Off the top of my head some older ones I liked were The Bravados, The Professionals, The Outrage (Rashomon remake), Duel in the Sun and the classic The Wild Bunch. Oh and Open Range reminded me of Firecreek a little. Firecreek is better. For some reason the most popular ones aren't my favorites. I know they're good, but I tend toward the lesser known movies. And I guess I like Gregory Peck more than I realized.

    btw, I hated The Proposition. I fell asleep on it and woke up pissed off that I'd have to start all over again.

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  • Aug 21, 2007 11:52:23 PM CDT

    Bale = Great film

    by doc_strange

    The guy has been making good films for a few years now. So anything he's in means a trip to the theater for me.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 1:58:10 AM CDT

    Maverick!

    by king sweyn forkbeard

    Great film.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 2:25:49 AM CDT

    So the biggest news right now...

    by crestfallen

    Evidently WB is rapidly making a Justice League movie, with Bale and Routh, production beginning early 2008. Why isn't AICN covering this?
    http://tinyurl.com/392zbb
    http://tinyurl.com/3c5mdv

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  • Aug 22, 2007 6:16:58 AM CDT

    bloody hell-a remake to look forward too?!!

    by rocklobster800

    Ive been dieing to see this for some time-Bale is one of the few actors who has already earned his stripes as "the new De Niro". I usually hate when actors are labelled "the new" anything-its lazy writing , but this guy really can be compared with "earlyish" Bobby D-Bales Patrick Bateman, Trevor Reznick, Alfred Borden and Bruce Wayne can almost hold a candle to Travis, Vito, Johnny Boy and Rupert Pupkin. Oh, and Open Range kicked a reamarkable amount of ass. Just for the final fight alone. Hell even for the INTRO to the final fight-(walking towards the guy) "you kill our friend?" "thats right and I shot the boy too. And I enjoyed it" (costner whips out his gun and blows the guys face off)

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  • Aug 22, 2007 6:18:13 AM CDT

    Crestfallen

    by just pillow talk

    You meant withOUT Bale and Routh, right? That's what your tinyurl told me...Who knows if that movie will actually be any good, and it would be weird to see someone else as Batman basically during the same time as Bale being Batman.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 6:20:11 AM CDT

    wouldn't have a problem with that

    by lost prophet

    If Bale and Routh weren't there then so what. mind you, I'm not exactly setting off fireworks in joy about it either.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 7:48:12 AM CDT

    Must See Westerns

    by kingink123

    I just go into westerns in my early 20's by way of Samurai films. Go figure. I could recommend about 100 titles, but here are a few. Directed by Anthony Mann: Winchester 73, Bend of the River, Naked Spur, The Far Country, Man From Laramie, The Tin Star, Man of the West.
    Directed by Budd Boetticher: 7 Men From Now, The Tall T, Decision at Sundown, Buchanan Rides Alone, Ride Lonesome, Commanche Station.
    Assorted others: Man from Colorado, The Deadly Trackers, Jubal, 3:10 to Yuma, Rancho Notorious, Hellbenders, A Minute to Pray a Minute to Die, Django, Viva Django, Django the Bastard, etc.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 9:11:55 AM CDT

    JLA movie?

    by rocklobster800

    Ack....crap. Will they be completely different Bats and Supes in characterisation too? I mean will Returns and Begins be "canon" of sorts? or are they going to make this a huge movie, aimed more towards kids that has nothing to do with the more mature versions of the characters on the go?

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  • Aug 22, 2007 11:16:35 AM CDT

    kingink123

    by sangredeltoro

    Great list! I'll be sure to check most of those out. My favorite Western, tho, is "Winchester 73" by far. Great story and a frickin awesome cast. Based on the recommendations on this site, I'll be eagerly anticipating 3:10 to Yuma, also.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 11:19:54 AM CDT

    Howard Hawks once said ...

    by berserkrl

    that he made RIO BRAVO as a reply to HIGH NOON. He didn't like the idea of the hero going around asking everyone for help; it seemed whiney. So in RIO BRAVO there's a similar situation -- the bad guys are coming to town and the hero is in a fix -- but instead everyone is offering to *help* the hero and he keeps testing them to see whether they're good enough.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 12:30:06 PM CDT

    The Outlaw Josey Wales

    by tk 421

    I'm shocked that no one here gives any love for The Outlaw Josey Wales. Now that's a kick ass western. Way better in my opinion than any of Leone's westerns. No mention of the Searchers or Rio Bravo either.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 2:25:43 PM CDT

    "Walk the Line" kind of Sucked.

    by smerdyakov

    The cast was fine, but the dialogue was cornbread and the plot moved like Jello rolling down a hill. I kept wanting to let Cash stew in his own self pity and follow Jerry Lee Lewis instead.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 2:39:17 PM CDT

    and don't forget

    by kingink123

    High Plains Drifter. (always hated Pale Rider for being a blatant rip-off of Shane). I would still love for someone to do a decent adaptation of Shane. The George Stevens production was so different from the book.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 3:27:29 PM CDT

    Nice to see love for Open Range

    by stuntcock mike

    Great movie.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 3:56:55 PM CDT

    based on all the love for open range

    by blwiseass

    i have now added it to my netflix queue. I figured it was just another Costner crap fest

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  • Aug 22, 2007 3:58:16 PM CDT

    I want to love this movie...

    by mosquito march

    ...because the cast is outrageous. But, the trailer is pretty underwhelming. I didn't see anything in the trailer half as exciting as that final gun battle in OPEN RANGE. I think the problem is Mangold. His movies are technically well-made, but there's no real magic there, and even in trailers, it shows.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 7:00:06 PM CDT

    Ben Foster was badass in Alpha Dog.

    by jakes nel

    Scary son of a bitch, he is...

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  • Aug 22, 2007 9:45:36 PM CDT

    poeticwarriorII i pity your lack of Blueberry taste

    by pipergates

    Blueberry wasn't perfect but to just dismiss this visionary film shows a total lack of movie objectivity. just to start with it was beautifully shot...and the main actor happens to be one of the best working actors nowadays. you must be some oldtimer who don't get movies that deviate from the norm.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 10:32:05 PM CDT

    just pillow talk

    by crestfallen

    Yeah, sorry, meant to type "withOUT". The recent sources indicate that the film will be CGI/motion capture, similar to Beowolf. Seems that IESB is the site for inside movie info.

    http://tinyurl.com/3c57o3

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  • Aug 22, 2007 10:59:23 PM CDT

    Who says the Western is dead?

    by 'cholera's ghost

    A good story is a good story, no matter the genre. And I happen to love Westerns. Those were the days when men were men.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 11:29:02 PM CDT

    AnimalStructure: You have no right to talk shit!

    by redjester

    I got three words for you: John From Cincinnati. Nuff said.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 11:29:04 PM CDT

    AnimalStructure: You have no right to talk shit!

    by redjester

    I got three words for you: John From Cincinnati. Nuff said.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 11:31:33 PM CDT

    Cassell really took the trip in Blueberry

    by pipergates

    Him and the director both had peyote with the shaman that appeared in the movie, who was a real shaman and also helped supervise the visuals of the visions. I'm pretty sure Cassell was actually on peyote when he is shown in the movie having his first taste of it; the face he makes is just too true to that trip to fake. Though he's a great actor of course.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 11:37:59 PM CDT

    Woodhead in Blueberry is Djimon's best role yet

    by pipergates

    way too short time on screen but what a freaking crazy character. a supermean Jimi Hendrix long gun- toter. I bet Giraud and the writer modeled him on Jimi.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 11:47:24 PM CDT

    Hmmm...

    by red ned lynch

    Barquero. Vera Cruz. Five Card Stud. The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean. Fort Apache. Duel in the Sun. A Town Called Hell. High Plains Drifter. For comedy, Support Your Local Sheriff and The Hallelujah Trail. Just to mention a few that haven't been mentioned but should be.

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  • Aug 22, 2007 11:50:45 PM CDT

    And of course...

    by red ned lynch

    ...Major Dundee. The new (couple years old) restored cut makes it an extraordinary companion piece to The Wild Bunch.

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  • Aug 23, 2007 4:58:19 AM CDT

    Best Western? Blazing Saddles was a 'bang'!

    by jugs

    fnar fnar

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  • Aug 23, 2007 3:37:18 PM CDT

    QUINT ........................................ HAVE YOU

    by red dawn don

    QUINT have you seen OPEN RANGE yet? I have been checking back periodically for a black-box comment from you about it. [I gotta get me some of those black-boxes for my purple-prose-rhetoric. Does Amazon sell them?]

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  • Aug 23, 2007 3:50:14 PM CDT

    Almost forgot .............................. WILL PENNY

    by red dawn don

    WILL PENNY (1968) is a great, gritty western with Charlton Heston. Donald Pleasence, Bruce Dern and the Preacher-Quint-family are great villians in it. (Hey is this where AICN's Quint got his name?) Remember, great movies are all about great villians. And with Charlton being a huge NRA supporter you know that he really would shoot the baddies USING HIS OWN GUNS. Not like other liberal-phony-actors.

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  • Aug 23, 2007 6:58:06 PM CDT

    yeah Heston has got a lot of blood on his hands

    by pipergates

    violence breeding rightwing blockhead

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  • Aug 24, 2007 9:30:17 AM CDT

    Open Range = The Win

    by saluki

    I was pimping that sucker back in '03 HARD. Was my second favorite film of the year. This talkback made me grin real hard. Thanks all!

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  • Aug 24, 2007 3:36:06 PM CDT

    Russell Crowe in Batman

    by huelya

    Hollywood.com reports, that Russell Crowe will make an apperance in Dark Knight. http://www.hollywood.com/news/Russell_Crowe_to_Star_in_Batman_Movie/4743435

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  • Aug 26, 2007 8:11:10 AM CDT

    Open Range, Russell Crowe, Wyatt Earp

    by brainflow

    I guess people really loved Open Range. I also loved Wyatt Earp. I know that Tombstone is a more fun film, and gotta love Val Kilmer as Doc Holiday, (perhaps his most classic role), but the Wyatt Earp film had so many themes. It was shot through Costners thoughtful lens, and I say give it another try. He isn't the Superhero from Tombstone, but a deeply flawed and perhaps villanous hero.

    And on Crowe. Along with Romper Stomper I felt that The Insider was his best performance. I've never seen an actor so committed to be unlikable, and with his aforementioned ability to play charm with intensity, he really stretched to play that role. Crowe is one fo the best at what he does. Who cares how he treats the help?

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  • Aug 26, 2007 10:07:51 AM CDT

    Ben Foster...

    by powers boothe

    was quite AWESOME in the otherwise dreadful Alpha Dog. Despite my dislike of director Mangold...Foster be my reason to watch this Yuma film.

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  • Aug 26, 2007 10:11:40 AM CDT

    Walter Hill

    by powers boothe

    I guess most of the folk on this board are to young to remember a fantastic 1980 Walter Hill titled The Long Riders. I also liked Hill's much maligned Wild Bill with Jeff Bridges and Ellen Barkin. Hill alos recently directed Duvall in a Western mini-series for the AMC network.

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  • Aug 26, 2007 10:13:55 AM CDT

    No "edit your post" feature on here?

    by powers boothe

    Sorry for the typos in my previous post.

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  • Aug 27, 2007 12:11:19 AM CDT

    "Three Burials" was crap...

    by burnhollywood

    I'm a total left-winger and even I found the "border guards EEEEVIL/warm, friendly Mexicans" dichotomy simple-minded, cloying and patronizing. Maybe they can put it in a box-set with "Crash" and "Babel" and sell it to self-loathing Yuppie liberals as a trilogy.

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  • Aug 27, 2007 12:37:21 AM CDT

    All hail The Wild Bunch

    by huge

    One of the greatest films ever made! No one remembers the controversy it stirred up back in 1969. This film basically invented the film vocabulary for screen violence for every action film that followed. A great epic and a deeply personal film with career-best performances from Robert Ryan & William Holden. Peckinpah was amazing. Too bad the drugs did him in. Also, anyone interested in great westerns should check out McQueen in Tom Horn & 3 great Burt Lancaster films - The Professionals, Ulzana's Raid & Lawman.

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  • Aug 27, 2007 10:34:55 AM CDT

    Wow, what a shocker

    by maverick68

    Some fucktard with penis-envy living in Momma's basement feels the need to rip on John Wayne, a true icon and legend of film....blow me over with a feather!

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  • Aug 30, 2007 10:58:19 AM CDT

    Screened it last night

    by jayberg

    So far, the best movie I've seen this year: James Mangold's ("Walk The Line") remake of "3:10 To Yuma". Yes, a western (not one of my favorite genres) and yes yes, a remake-and a remake of a certifiable classic to boot! The 1957 Glenn Ford original based on Elmore Leonard's short story gets a modern do-over starring the great Russell Crowe and (who is becoming the great) Christian Bale (see him in Herzog's "Rescue Dawn") with a wonderful turn by Peter Fonda. Totally agree with Quint's assessment! It's my early pick for Best Picture. I hated the totally overrated "Unforgiven" so I don't Hollywood has it in it to give it to another western so soon (expecially since Eastwood doen't have a single fingerprint on it). Phenomenal movie! DON'T MISS IT!!

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  • Aug 31, 2007 3:47:37 AM CDT

    NEW RULE: "3:10 To Yuma Sucks Mule Cock"

    by bill maher

    Why the fuck should I spend good money to watch a shitty remake of a classic western when I can watch the REAL version in glorious black & white on Encore Westerns? The turd represents everything I hate about movies these days: butchering a classic (there was no fucking bounty hunter in 3:10 To Yuma, assholes!), wanking it out with bad acting (I had hoped that when Jabba the Brando croaked, actors would quit whispering and mumbling their fucking lines as though it made things more dramatic. Shit!), explosions (there are no fucking explosions in the story, you fucktards!). Russell Crowe is no Glenn Ford and Christian Bale is no Van Heflin -I don't care how many of his chubby (300 pounds plus of pure queerbait) fanwhores get on their knees and dream of getting a facial from the guy.

    Remakes suck. Remakes of classic films suck harder. If the studios want to remake something, why don't they start with recent movies they fucked up? They can even get the original actors, etc and tell them to get it right this time.

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