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A Couple Of
All-Time Best TV Lists,
Just In Time For Emmy Season!!
I am – Hercules!!
1) UGO.com has come out with its 50 best TV shows of all time.
There are picks I believe a lot of us can get behind. “The Wire” at #2. “Galactica” at #3. “Freaks And Geeks” at #7. But once we get into the double digits, the ranking may strike many as ... more controversial.
The UGO list ranks:
* “Saved By The Bell” (#29) higher than “Seinfeld” (#41),
* “The Adventures of Pete & Pete” (#19) higher than “The Colbert Report” (#36),
* “The Brady Bunch (#20) higher than “Newsradio” (#22),
* “Family Guy” (#17) higher than “Mr. Show” (#42),
* “The Price Is Right” (#10) higher than “Chappelle’s Show” (#27), and
* “Transformers” (#28) higher than “The Shield” (#33).
Shows that did NOT make UGO’s all-time top 50 include “The Larry Sanders Show,” “The Prisoner,” “Moonlighting,” “The West Wing,” "Deadwood," "Rome," “Fawlty Towers” and “Monty Python’s Flying Circus.” Find all of UGO’s list here.
2) ign.com, meanwhile, has the top 10 movie-to-TV transitions. Fans of “Friday Night Lights” will be excited to learn that the West Texas adventures of Lyla, Tyra, Matt, Tim, Street and, of course, wheelchair-bound Herc rank third. Find all of that list here.


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The Bastards...
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just came home from the bar and have to say, I don't know how Firefly doesn't beat out the Price is Right. I mean, I know Barker kicks Sandler's ass 'n all, but Mal would beat him down in a heartbeat. The Wire at #2 is amazing. Probably the only credence to the list.
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There isn't much else worth watching...although Freaks and Geeks was funny.
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Troubling.
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...in an absolutely rediculous order for the most part to boot. But then these things always are, so no real surprise there I guess. I mean sure, there's quite a few shows in that list that I personally like, but only a handful that come in anyway close to deserving to be on a best tv shows ever list. And any "best tv shows ever" list that has things like Saved By The Bell, Jackass, The Price Is Right and Fat Albert on it, yet completely lacks shows such as Deadwood, The Prisoner, MASH, Homicide, Hill Street Blues and Rome honestly isn't worth pissing on, or over. At least The Wire got some props for once, but even so, that was ten minutes of my life I'll never get back. Just as well that I don't have a life, or I'd be pissed off about that...
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Obviously the Wing should be in there (and in the top ten at that) but where's the love for Futurama, Spaced, the Office (esp. the English version), Deadwood, Veronica Mars, Queer as Folk (only seen the English version), Peep Show, I'm Alan Partridge, Curb, Weird Weekends, the OC (yes, I'm serious), This Lifem Rescue Me, The Shield, Gilmore Girls, Band of Brothers, ER and dare I say it (due to it's relativle newness) but Heroes? And when the hell are we gonna get to see the Preacher HBO tv series because that just aughta be the best thing ever.
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Taken in its totality, BLADE THE SERIES was easily almost as good as BLADE III!!!
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jesus fucking christ. lets stroke Joss Whedon's cock enough that he covers his whole Buffyverse with overhyped hack splooge. i know its cool to have a favorite show and whatnot, but to point out even the smallest thing that heralds Buffy as being anything more than mere fodder for teen girls and closest-homo nerds just gets so tiresome after a while. nice strategy though, not mentioning Buffy at all, and just pointing things out on the list to illicit rabid fanboy response. bravo herc. you might be one of the more cunning 13 year old girls i know. oh well, as long as your endless articles of useless information, recycled material from other venues, and ridiculous amounts of shilling for amazon continues to draw in site-hits and ad revenue, then why should Harry care that you contribute nothing of any real significance to this site. by the way, seriously, links to over 60 different dvd items you can conveniently get at Amazon? can you be any more of a tool? i know harry has his occasional dvd review/advertising section, but at least he or someone pretending to be him can take a little bit of time to write up personal notes about the stuff, instead of just posting a couple of image links and a gajillion text links between what tries to be an article and the talkback section. anyways, have fun reading your buffy comics that you and joss can sit and pretend are like that missing last season or whatever, while the rest of us who actually are old enough for pubes go and do something worthwhile, like go see Superbad.
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...automatically disqualifies UGO's list from being taken seriously or even as a joke in poor taste.
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The UGO list seems to be the first 50 shows the writer could think of, vaguely ordered from best to worst.
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is SIX FEET UNDER?
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No Rome? No X-files (the first 5 years anyway)? Six Feet Under? Buffy? Sex and the City? Brothers & Sisters? Yet Saved by the Bell warrants mention? I'm the first person to agree that art in any form is subjective but this "list" is about as useful as a 95 year old senile eunich.
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That someone so ignorant could compile such a list. No Homicide:Life on the street? Really scary.
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What a random list !!! I'm not a teen, far from it, and I do think Buffy is a great show but number 1 even on the criteria of this list is stretching it a bit. Incidentally, no Malcolm from a list that can find room to have Saved by The Bell in it. Jeez
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NOT a serious list and not worth the space here.
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I don't think this site has given it enough coverage.
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If there's any show The Wire deserves to be second to, it's the one starring the pudding man. There was no no A Different World either.
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or Arsenio Hall? American Bandstand? Soul Train before Don Cornelius stopped hosting? Love Boat? Fantasy Island? Robotech? Showtime at the Apollo? In Living Color? I could go on and on...
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Also, Seinfeld is way too low.
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I mean come on that show is way funnier then half the shit on the list.
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Aug. 18, 2007, 8:38 a.m. CST
Veronica Mars isn't even one of the best of the DECADE
by CarmillaVonDoom
These lists are just compiled to piss everyone off. I mean, The Wire is great, but it isn't the 2nd best show of ALL TIME. Come on, no one has mentioned "I Love Lucy" "All In The Family" or my personal fave "Electra Woman and Dyna Girl" (the pilot of the remake with Markie Post is off the hook)
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Kee-rist...
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It's what's NOT there. 2 shows that should have made the list that aren't mentioned: Eerie, Indiana (everyone knows this) The Odyssey - A show that will probably go on forgotten in history and time. Essentially it was The Wizard of Oz - the TV series... but with a few exceptions. It starred a male lead. The action would often take place out in the 'real world'. It was more serious than the Wizard of Oz. Basically this kid goes into a coma following a gets transported to the "Downworld" and set off on a quest to find his father and "Brad", who could be the key in finding his way back home. While the standard nowadays, this was one of the only serialized kids shows at the time. (the other was Ghostwriter- which should have also been on the list) Unfortunately despite being 3 seasons it never reached a satisfying conclusion. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103504/ According to the boards the DVD has just gotten approval and will be released. Hopefully this means new people will discover it and see what they've been missing. What should kept in mind is that the show IS Canadian which could be a reason you may have not seen or heard about it.
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I'm a diehard buffy fan, but even I wouldn't put it as the best television series of all time. BSG as #3? This is a geek's list, plain and simple. Unless this was somehow voted on, there's no way it can be justified... PS. I still hold that from start to finish, Angel was a better show than Buffy
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How slow a day for you to place a list of tv shows randomly picked and in random order as news. As well as numerous entries that should really be in worse tv shows of all time. Numerous omissions that you would have thought would have been guaranteed top 20. My top twenty 1.Seinfeld 2.E.R (Seasons 1-10) cant believe it was omitted 3.Simpsons (Seasons 1-8) Rest in no particular order X Files (seasons 1-5) 24 (Seasons 1-5) Lost Futurama Frasier Friends Star Trek:The Next Generation Star Trek Deep Space Nine Sopranos South Park The Practice Cheers La Law Taxi Beverley Hills 90210 (Loved it at the time) Prison Break Highlander Off topic has America produced any really dark comedy series along the lines of The UK's league of gentleman
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I know many people haven't seen a good % of the shows on most top 50 lists. Maybe they don't have cable or maybe they don't like SciFi or cop shows or they don't understand a particular brand of humor or they just never got around to it etc. But most everyone has seen at least one episode of Saved By The Bell and know who Screech is. Having said that, I wish all copies of that show would be destroyed and every reference to it erased from our memories. The fact that it doesn't come in dead last among a ranking of all shows of all time is a mystery.
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To appear in Saved by the Bell in any way, shape, or form.
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C'mon. Original TREK didn't make the list? Many of the shows listed wouldn't exist without Kirk & crew. Who is that site written for? 15 year olds? Goddamn.
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Gets shit when he mentions Buffy; gets shit when he doesn't. That aside, it is certainly a crime not to see Homicide:LotS on a lot of these "All Time" lists. That show kicked all sorts of ass. <p> I'm going to go for a little discretion and not *squee* for the Buffy thing - although giving Angel his own nod instead of lumping his broody ass with Buff wouldn't have been inappropriate - I think everyone agrees on whther or not they love or hate the show, it's cemented it's cult status. And I think we can safely assume that this list was complied by some fairly young people.
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You those 17 year old film "experts" at Blockbuster that have never seen the original Psycho because it's in black and white. The remake's in color, y'all!
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I'm pretty sure they came up with that list by picking 50 shows and then throwing darts to determine order. Ridiculous. No "Max Headroom"? Inconceivable.
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There's a reason people are running around in "Joss Whedon Is My Master Now" t-shirts and not "Donald Bellisario Is My Master Now," "Dick Wolf Is My Master Now," and "Tim Kring Is My Master Now" t-shirts. Ditto Ronald D. Moore, Carlton Cuse, Chris Carter, Irwin Allen, etc etc
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Really? Buffy is the best show in the history of television? Really?
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but any list that considers Buffy the Vampire Slayer the greatest show of all time has no credibility. i can think of at least 20 shows that top that one in both quality and cultural impact. always nice to see The Wire get a little love though.
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because they haven't made t-shirts for anyone else?
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Entertainment Weekly and TV Guide and E! and what have you are ALWAYS trotting out all-time Top 25/50/100 lists, and BUFFY always lands at or near the top of every one it could possibly qualify for. The freakish thing about the UGO list, obviously, is the presence of the likes of PRICE IS RIGHT and SAVED BY THE BELL.
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I love The Wire, Arrested Development, Freaks & Geeks, and pre-Jump the Shark Galactica, and even I have to admit that list is dumb. Ever heard of a show called MASH? Or All in the Family? And so on. Except for SNL and The Price is Right, there isn't a single show on there that's over 15 years old.
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...was one of the greatest shows ever. Ten years later it holds up better than the overrated Colbert Report could ever hope to.
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They'll stop invading Earth inmediately. So be grateful.
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but the top three is pretty fabulous. but they left out other GREAT shows in favour of cult classics which may or may not deserve to be on an "all time" list.
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Moonlighting is the single most brilliant show ever created by man. When the aline warlord Drozok comes with his armada and demands why Earth should be spared, I would gladly present Moonlighting as the best man has to offer and our single greatest chance to avoid annhiliaton.....and now it's time for my meds.
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or twin peaks for that matter, then fuck that list! it is no good
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if mash and larry sanders aren't on it, then it's bogus. and why would aint it cool even post this shite? give me a break man.
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Buffy is a good show, but that is all. a GOOD show. Not one of the top 50 of all-time, and certainly not the best movie adaptation ever. The love for this show is absurd.
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the Twighlight Zone is just plain fucking tarded.
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Max Headroom wasn't just ahead of its time, its still ahead of this time. NBC probably wouldn't have a Thursday line-up if it wasn't for Larry Sanders, which is the only comedy that could give Seinfeld a challenge for the best sitcom ever. Oh, I see both of these lists were written by 14 year old girls, what a shock that Herc linked them.
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Her?
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Sure they got some right, but you pull FIFTY shows out of your ass your bound make a few good choices on accident, mostly that list is just a clusterfuck of tv shows the writers were simply able to remember (and Galactica is overrated, but that's my own gripe).
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Apparentely "Of all time..." doesn't mean what it used to. "I Love Lucy" and the "The Andy Griffith Show" should be fighting for the 1 and 2 spots on any list with any credibility.
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Isn’t AICN 10 years old? Is Herc saying she started at AICN when she was 4? <p>And isn’t she really into Battlestar Galactica and 24 and The Wire and The Sopranos and Rescue Me and Rome and South Park? Are these really big with teen girls now? <p>Aren't teen girls more into Grey’s Anatomy and Ugly Betty and Desperate Housewives. Why does Herc never write about those shows? Confusing.
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The fact that Firefly, Galactica, and Buffy are so high to the top show the mindset of the people who made the list. I love those shows, don't get me wrong, but Seinfeld should really be higher. And come on, we all know at this point that Angel got leaps and bounds above Buffy by the end.
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But now I'd like to see one NOT made by retarded four-year-olds.
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That's the most asinine top 50 list of TV shows I've ever seen.
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No. Just...no. Family Guy superior to Mr. Show? Did you ever actually watch Mr. Show? Hell, did you ever watch Family Guy past the first couple of seasons? This list is just stupid. Putting The Simpsons behind any comedy, even AD, is pure insanity.
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are the people who never watched it. And by watch, I mean at least one whole season, not just the odd episode here and there. It's impossible to watch a whole season of Buffy, or Angel for that matter, and not see Whedon's genius. Lost is just a Whedon show without the likeable characters or logical plot twists.
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Preceded the Wire, and really is better than the Wire, especially the first season. Those assholes even mentioned Homicide in the summary of why they like The Wire. They refer to it as David Simon's show, but I think David Simon is actually part of the reason it turned terrible in the 6th and 7th seasons. It was actually the work mainly of Barry Levinson, Tom Fontana, and the two or three brilliant staff writers they had (James Yoshimura, etc.) And the 9 episodes of the first season, especially the Adena Watson arc with its climax in "Three Men and Adena" is some of the most brilliant, powerful shit ever produced on television. It may be unrivaled, I dunno. It's unrivaled outside of HBO at least. but I swear to god ranking "Buffy" as number 1 and not even including Homicide is a signifier of severe retardation. Also, both Oz and Deadwood are superior to the Wire. And Buffy. Fucking Buffy is a cancerous blight on mankind.
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Gen Y bullshit. You guys can rot in hell.
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say what you want about The Simpsons in its current form, but during seasons 1-8 it is single handedly the best comedy TV show ever and pathed the way for a sly culture of comedy on TV. Also any list that has crap like Family Guy or Saved by the Bell (yes I know it was a global phenomenon, but seriously!) just does not hold water with me...and Buffy number 1??? FUCK OFF!! Number 1 should go for either Six Feet Under, Sopranos, The Prisoner, The Wire, MASH, The Simpsons or Twin Peaks
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Buffy number 1 ? Gimme a break. It's not even number 25. Angel was much better than Buffy. And how can Buffy be number 1 when there are series like American Gothic, The Shield, The A-Team, 21 Jump Street, Dallas, Incredible Hulk, Supernatural, Profit, Midnight Caller, Stingray and Misfits Of Science just to name a few.
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Garbage list. Seriously, DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS?
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#1 in my book. Thank God for the Hallmark Channel.
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#2 in my book.
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I had the penis-shaped ship. They remake every movie ever made but don't do an original Space 1999 movie? Fucking Hollywood.
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A show that gives joy to Billions of people deserves a spot on the Top Ten.
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Everybody Loves Chicken George should be a sitcom.
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I had the doll with the rubber rollup skin and the see-through head. I miss that doll.
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Proof that white people aren't perfect.
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That's the eternal question.
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Remember that show? An old GF made me watch that wretched show. Kinda grew on me.
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Michael Landon was the most Christian Jew ever to walk the Earth. Jews for Jesus. Real name: Eugene Orowitz. Go figure, Nuff Said, So the math.
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I agree with that guy above, Cosby Show will always be #1 in my book. Best TV dad EVER!
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The little baby jeebus cries at those lists...
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I watched the first four seasons of Buffy, and episodes here and there after that, and I don't think Buffy is great. Its good, but not great. There are many, many better shows in the history of TV, but Buffy is definately a show worth watching.
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Wilburrrrr !
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It would be in the top 5 in UGO's "50 Best Lists" feature.
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albino. Take a course in genetics and biology. It depends on one(s) ancestry. In the case of the Cosbys' Claire Huxtable clearly has mixed ancestry due to her pigmentation, features & hair texture. Granted The Cosby show may seem a little extreme, but trust me, it's not out of the ordinary nor impossible. I come from a family of mixed heritage: Cherokee, African American & White. My Immediate brothers and sisters are all different shades. Some are lighter and some are darker, but we share the same facial features (eyes, nose, etc.). I suggests that you don't make blanket statements about shit you don't know.
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That explains Shia's nappier Jewfro. I learned that in genetics class.
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when she had Lisa Bonet and Sabrina LeBeouf. But when Shia came along, that was too obvious and she sent him down the river like Baby Moses.
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no offense, these kinds of lists are usually pretty retarded, but this one in particular goes above and beyond. this feels like it was made up by my little brother and his friends during a sleepover. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt-rcTAqa3c
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Hawkeye Pierce is the sexiest man. In Korea at least.
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Check out Jeff Goldblum's parents.
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Really?
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Troutpencil said exactly what I was thinking -- the first dozen or so episodes of H:LOTS are incredible and unforgettable; and the episode "The Men and Adena" has never been surpassed and, in fact, is alone better than many of the shows on this list.
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Anyone?
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How do you explain those lips and his predilection for dating sistas...Or maybe he just could'nt deal with dating all those whiny Yentas while going to high school.
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Also, I think the Phil Silvers Show is probably the best American sitcom ever. I am surprised no one else mentioned it. Given the lack of quality of the list, I am not surprised that it wasn't there. A smarter, more thoughful, more historically informed, and FAR better-viewed group should produce a list of the top 50 shows.
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It's the first of its kind. That should count for something. Four black women who aren't a bunch of uneducated, unemployed baby mommas...Naw, that sounds like white liberal guilt fantasy. Nevermind.
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http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=7875 I'm so happy. Hopefully it'll be released sometime in December.
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Can I get an Amen?! An Amen?
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No CHEERS? No HONEYMOONERS? No PRISONER? I'm glad they appended MST3K to the list (probably adhering more to "hipness" than sincerity). Who selected these faves? The Mayberry programming director?
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is hardcore geek. Hard fucking core.
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That's all I'd like to know.
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that is why it isn't on the list.
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Apparently you cannot.
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Donut think so. Can't wait to get the Serenity 2-disc collectors' edition Tuesday.
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true connoisseur. And tyou're 200% corrcet. THE PHIL SILVERS SHOW (SGT. BILKO) is a classic; writing staff inclided the likes of Neil Simon. The omission of this series completely invalidates this lousy list. SILVERS/BILKO is, disputably, the funniest sitcom ever produced. Doberman--along with Reverend Jim, Ed Norton HONEYMOONERS, et al--is truly an iconic character, Shame on anyone who hasn't at least sampled this series.
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Oops, wrong genre talkback. ;)
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The highest rating of ANY basic cable telecast, ever. Movies, TV, sports. It beat them all. OMSTAIN! alert. <p> OMSTAIN=One More Sign The Apocalypse Is Nigh
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Had 2 assists, but LA still lost to Red Bull NY, 5-4. Was wilder than it reads, I heard.
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Best post of the week... I was thinking the exact same thing... I love you geeks sometimes... Can I get a group hug?
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I can think of at least 100 other shows better than that piece of dogcrap. Geez the Star Wars Christmas Special alone is better! Damn, do some more coke Herc?!
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Very exciting and high scoring game. That Hispanic guy ruined it for Beckham and LA Galaxy. Another reason to build the wall. <p>j/k. I know he's a legal alien.
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Give it up for Meshach Taylor.
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That's all, really. Family Guy > Mr. Show = people have horrible taste.
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Damnit Ziggy!
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Whoo! I was worried there for a minute. Charles in Charge of our days, and our nights.
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I'm not the most avid TV watcher, but even I can see a ton of holes in the UDO list. Firstly, I really enjoyed Firefly, but how can a show that didn't even get a chance to finish its first season be one of the best of all-time? Seriously, how is All in the Family or I Love Lucy worse than that when they acutally built audiences up over many years?
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Is #1. Watch it.
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...is the best show ever put on TV. Though, I DO agree with most of the top 10.
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these lists are highly subjective and always cause you to be infuriated, angry and pissed off because of the omissions and/or emphasis placed on drivel. just give them a miss and get on with your life.
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Someone gots ta' REPRESENT! :o)
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All About The Luv' Bruh'
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And with any Top 5, 10 or 100 list is that the criteria for selection is ill definied, if definied at all. Is this based on influence, ratings, or personal preference? This list seems pretty random - I mean can you really rate a game show against a sci fi drama against a variety show hosted by puppets? At the end of the day all these type of lists are meaningless, so there's no need to work yourself up about it, but it would be nice to see a list that thoughtfully layed out its critera first.
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Season One: 'Prophecy Girl" Air date-06/02/97 Quote: " You have fruit punch mouth." <p> Season Two: "I Only Have Eyes For You" Airdate: 04/28/98 Quote: "Don't walk away from me, you bitch!!" <p> Season Three: "Revelations" Airdate: 11/17/98 Quote: "Faith...you're an idiot." <p> Season Four: "Who Are You" Airdate: 02/29/00 Quote: "I've got muscles you never even dreamed of; I could ride you at a gallop and squeeze you like you were warm champange and you'd beg me just to hurt you a little bit more. And you know why I don't? Because it's wrong." <p> Season Five: " Fool For Love" Airdate: 11/14/00 Quote: "You're beneath me." <p> Season Six: "Tabula Rasa" Airdate: 11/13/01 Quote: "I'm like a Superhero or something." <p> Season Seven: "Beneath You" Airdate: 10/01/02 Quote: "Can we rest? Please....Can we rest?"µ
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won an Emmy for his Olivier-like performance during that scene. - Damn! I miss that show! And for all y'all Buffy/Angel Naysayers out there, Bestbuy currently has all the Buffy and Angel Seasons on sale for $15.99 each. Do yourself a favor and pick em' up! After being exposed to the greatness of Mutant Enemy, you gon' be thankin' ol' Uncle Glodene for hippin' y'all to da' real shit. RECOGNIZE!
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What a bunch of dickweeds.
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It cut them with wire cutters. I picked the episodes I did - and there were better ones - because they were all set ups for the premise of each season. <p> First season, Buffy grudlingly did what she had to do. She wanted to be the mall shopping, vapid Cali blondie that everyone expected her to be but -oops- she had a responsibility. And that overwhelming responsibility turned into itself. It became a reality check, "I am only sixteen; I don't want to die." It upped her sarcasm level and her cynical nature grew. <p> Season two, I picked that episode because of the twisted nature of falling in and out of love. The idilyic nature of possiveness being a mistake. Also the episode that Buffy has a clarity moment about Angel; that it is either her or him. It's a "moving on" scenario in the extreme. <p> Third season was all about self esteem and self loathing. Faith's Faux!Watcher further pushed her on a path of grasping at any affection at all. Jealousy overwhelmed her. <
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and theoretically, it could go on both lists. since the series was based on a tv move. two of them, to be more precise.
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That list is so beyond retarded that I can't even be bothered to complain about their ordering. Though I have to say ANY 'best-of' tv show list that doesn't have seinfeld in the top 10 and actually has a stillborn piece of dogshit like saved by the bell (in the running for WORST show ever, IMO) is worthless.
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We Need to make a list!!!
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1) Star Trek
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2)Carnivale 3) My So Called Life
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4) Freaks and Geeeks 5) Undeclared 6) Clerks Animated
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7) The Tick 8) Angel
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9) Deadwood 10) Arrested Development
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granted Twin Peaks 2nd season didn't work like the first and it probably earned its cancellation.
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The original Doctor Who was also cancelled, although it was kinda brought back many years later. HBO had a show called "The High Life" produced by Letterman that nobody watched. It was sort of an odd parody of the Honeymooners. I enjoyed it, but nobody else did. Get a Life also comes to mind.
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...on that "Best Movie-To-TV" list, right? <br> <br> btw, where's the talkback for that second episode? I guess everyone cancelled their DVR Season Pass and no one caught it this week.
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I've always wanted to start a TV network that showed only those great shows that got cancelled way too early. <BR> <BR> Shoot, one night'll be "Arrested Development," "Undeclared" and "Freeks and Geeks". And another there'll be "Firefly", "Crusade" and "Angel."
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No nypd blue The absolute worst list I have ever had the displeasure of reading!
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Saved By The Bell's description and such or whatever you wanna call it reads as reasons it SHOULDN"T be on the list and yet, there it is. Is Lark Vorhees humping someone at UGO?
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This is bullshit!
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Bullshit on that!
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What is this madness?
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Gah!
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Richard Benjamin is rolling in his grave.
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is they don't have too many episodes, generally don't have a strong following, if they do have a following, those people have already seen the episodes and probably own them. Also, I'm pretty sure HDNet is already doing that.
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Paul Lynde was da bomb.
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Everyone and their mother has some sort of ranking of film/television...
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is to turn people on to new shit. You read a list of great TV, movies, or music and they you check it out. The big problem here, is this list is mostly new, mostly obvious, and yet still terrible. This list will wind up turning people on to Saved By the Bell, as if it is one of the best shows ever.
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"Saved By The Bell: College Years"
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Herc says, "Hey, look at the list over there." AICN members run over giving that site a lot of traffic. Later that site writes something that will cause there viewers to come here. rather silly, obvious and lame what people got to do to keep a site running.
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Hey, I love Buffy as much as the next geek, but the greatest television series of all time? Even James Lipton would consider that extreme hyperbole. Some of the shows on this list aren't even GOOD shows. Saved by the Bell? Ren & Stimpy? The original Trek and Six Feet Under weren't there. Numerous recent shows received high spots on a list that represents all of television history. This is sad. And where did this nonsense about Michale Ohare being a bad actor come from. Seems like a random, idiosyncratic criticism or pet peeve. Then shows that while great, only lasted a few episodes are on the list. I'm sorry, but ya gotta have at least 2 seasons to be considered for greatest shows ever. (Sorry Herc: This includes the rather average Wonderfalls). My list would be more like this: 1. Twilight Zone 2. Babylon 5 3. Six Feet Under 4. Star Trek 5. Star Trek TNG 6. The Simpsons 7. South Park 8. Seinfeld 9. Nip/Tuck 10. Cheers 11. Wonder Years 12. Scrubs 13. Colbert Report 14. Daily Show 15. Buffy 16. new Battlestar Galactica 17. Alien Nation 18. Lost 19. Family Guy 20. Alias
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21. Batman: TAS 22. Thundercats 23. Gargoyles 24. Dungeons and Dragons 25. Scooby Doo Then of course all the real classics from classic sitcoms like Three's Company to Mission Impossible and The Avengers, etc., other classic cartoons. I mean, this list they gave us was insulting to good taste. They might as well put Americas Funniest Home Videos on the list.
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you do not have arrested development as any of your top 5s? sorry buddy but your list was going okay until that.
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Is the greatest show I have ever seen. I have never been so engrossed, in love, and touched by a show in my life. Glad to see that Xena made the list tho... What a joke. Also.. Where in the hell is My So Called Life?
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Is shit..can all the British shows be removed so we can make our own top 50 list without most of the crap US shows on the list
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15) Farscape
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Everybody has one and they all stink.
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The was supposed to be 'are', not 'as' ---- I hate Mondays!
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Since they ommitted:<p>Manimal<p>Now that was a ground breaking series.
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when discovering these lists. I liked Buffy too, but seasons 5-7 dragged MAJOR ass. Only when combined with the more solid spinoff Angel (as a complete whedonverse) could it be considered as the best show of all time. But I don't believe that kinda *show-fusion* is allowed. Besides, even if you think Buffy is the #1 show of all time....do you really wanna half defend a list that places Saved by The Bell over Seinfeld?! Get real.
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seinfeld at 41. worst pick of the list, this is easily a top 10 show. 24 at 38, to far back considering the format and the few great seasons they've had. lost at 37. a joke, this show isn't even done yet and it's already a top 15 ever. animaniacs at 31? this is ridiculous. jackass at 18? this is even more ridiculous. buffy at 1 and BSG at 3 are the only picks i like.
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Honeymooners??? Also half of this list is cartoons- and not one of them The Flintstones or Jetsons. Six Feet Under not on the list? M.A.S.H.? Yeah- okay.
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... cooked up by a bunch just-out-of-college, Generation Y, emo kids. They're our future, guys! Yes... we ARE all doomed...
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buffy at number 1, ok, now I know Buffy has it's fans but seriously, better then the Phil Silvers show, better then I love Lucy, better then the Andy Griffth Show, better then Mr. Ed, better then Cheers, better the NewsRadio, better then Larry Sanders, MASH? I can keep going<P>and don't accuse me of not watching Buffy, I watched Buffy until the UPN move becasue where I lived at didn't have WB.<P>and don't give me that "social message" crap, there were episodes of the original Star Trek and My 3 Sons that were more subtle then episodes of Buffy<P>another thing that pisses me off about Buffy was Joss Wheadon promised us there would not be a "very special episode" of Buffy where she has sex for the first time blah blah blah, then 2nd season BAM! and she had like 18 very special episodes maybe not all Buffy centritic but comeon<P>and the whole "dark universe" buffy universe was a rip off of Star Trek's Mirrior universe<P>HOWEVER I did see Once More with Feeling on FX I believe and that episode was amazing and my favorite episode was from the first season with the demon slayer ventrilquests dummy<P>see they always hinted at stuff like that, a much larger universe of demon and vampire hunters but outside of the Watchers they never really explored it IMHO<P>and seriously people can you take serious a list that has Saved by the Bell ahead of NewsRadio and other shows...Saved by the Bell should be in the toilet and yes sadly I watched Saved by the Bell
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...On what basis? It can't be FX, because any episode of Kolchak from the 70's had better FX than Buffy, even the one with the guy in the lizard suit that looked faker than a Gorn. Writing? C'mon! Acting? Not if you take Gellar's uh... "performance"... into account. No... Buffy obviously cannot be number 1 and this list was obviously concocted by the faggy goth-emo kids who sit behind the cafeteria at some junior high school in, like Des Moine, or some shit.
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... When the real news that Harry should be pushing is that Jessica Biel has signed on to appear NUDE in a film in which she will portray a STRIPPER!!!! I'm just wondering if I can buy my ticket now. Right now! RIGHT THIS MINUTE!!!
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Now most people here know I preach the Joss gospel, but even I wouldn't put Buffy up there as the best tv show ever. It's definitely in the top 10, but still. These lists are ridiculous because they're comparing genres, time periods, and styles that shouldn't even be on the same list. Seriously, how do you compare a popular 1950s sitcom with a late 1990s fantasy adventure series? You can't. And how the hell do you compare a game show to either one? Hell, you can barely compare Twilight Zone and Buffy, even though they're both fantasy/scifi - and I agree TZ should be tops. Moonlighting would have also been in my top 10, along with Sports Night, X-Files, Firefly, MASH, and I'm sure a bunch more I can't think of.
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These were from a simpler time. NO cgi etc. Bosco wanderly wagon Den tv the ray d'arcy years. Play School Playaway Krackerjack. Mary mungo and midge Krystal Tipps and Alastair Dangermouse EmTv starring Rod Hull and emu. Going live. The best episode was when british Jackson 5 rip-off merchants five star came into the studio. Sarah Greene went to a caller who said I want to ask five star a question? Sarah green said ask away and this kid said I want to ask them why. Why are you so crap? you crap you are. your so fucking crap. Saturday superstore. The one where Baroness Thatcher killed the career of up coming band stone dead. Alive and kicking. The episode where two down syndrome children danced to music of the night. Brought a tear to my eye. not to mention the singing corner and the laundry. Swapshop and the multicoloured swapshop. The adventure game with Moira Stewart. The trap door.with the voice of willie rushton. Eureka With prof wilf Lung. Jigsaw. MT USA. Music television USa with the late great vinnie hanley. the most revolutionary tv show of the 1980s. The mighty NO disco the greatest music program rte ever made. the Late late show with gay byrne. greatest Irish broadcaster of the latter half of the twentieth century. longest running chatshow of all time. Up yours leno and letterman. It is now into its 44year. I think Miriam O callaghan will replace the boing kenny when he steps down. Back to the list. Father ted. Monty python The electric company. Arthur Murphys Mailbag. Points of view. Blizzard of odd with colin Murphy the early years. Who line is it any way with clive anderson. Clive anderson talks back. the clive anderson show. Clive to the bee gees: i understand you were once called le Tosseurs. at that point they all walked out. So, graham norton. Norton told Racquel Welch to shut up and stop being a bitch on tv. Blake Seven. Dr. Who the tom baker years. Press Gang. The mrs Merton Show. First two seasons of Kumars at no. 42. goodness gracious me. Black Books. First two eps of The it Crowd. which is coming back for second series. Finally Star stories. louis Theoux meets Jimmy Saville. LOuis theroux the search for micheal Jackson. The greatest doucmentary about Micheal Jackson ever braodcast and pounds bashir's pathetic doc into the ground ten times over and last but not least. Adam Curtis's peerless documentary the power of nightmaers the rise of the politics of fear. tv at its most commading and taylors hair raising documentary about al-qaeda 2.0 and Taylors work on Northern Ireland. The cook report. rise of the triads is one of the scariest pieces of tv that I have ever seen. A very british coup. Alan Bleasdales GBH. boys from the blackstuff. Victoria Woods' as seen on tv. The Royale family. Fraggle Rock. The great egg Race with Heinz wolf. tiswas. Dont just sit there with magnus pike. On safari with Christopher biggins. The adventures of Mister Rossi. Bagpus, the clangers and that output ofpostgate films. Newsnight Review the mark lawson years. Tom paulin hated everything the simply the most unmissable episode and this percipitated Paulins descision to leave the show was the night they reviewed bloody sunday. for once germaine greer had no idea what she was talking about and Pulin tore into her the way a wolf would a sheep. Paulin grew up in and lived in Northern Ireland and was living there when bloddy sunday occured.
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Just because of Buffy and The Wire at #1 and #2 of course. I couldnt have said it better myself. Wheres Angel though?
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Poetic justice.
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NO MATLOCK!!! YOU BASTARDS!!!
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They stink.
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are like masturbation. All you end up with is a wad of jizz.
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Best of all time is just fucking stupid.
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