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Merrick again...
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! IESB reports that Len Wiseman is in talks to direct both GEARS OF WAR and the ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK remake for New Line. You can read the original IESB report HERE! Regular AICN readers may recall my (surprisingly) favorable review of Ken Nolan's ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK remake script, which you can access HERE. In that review, I strongly suggested this project required a director who understood both subtext and uncompromising grit. In my opinion, Wiseman has demonstrated an understanding of neither. I found his UNDERWORLD films to be slick, but sloppy, and heartless...and LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD to be meandering and tepid. I know some folks ended up (somewhat unexpectedly) cutting him slack for DIE HARD this Summer. Personally, I thought little about the film worked. It bored me, and I am a huge DIE HARD fan. McClane didn't feel like McClane, and the "crisis" was too decentralized and uninvolvingly (that's probably not a word) presented to seem either frightening or urgent. As for GEARS OF WAR? I haven't read Stuart Beattie's screenplay so I can't comment on whether or not Wiseman is a good fit for the project. My son plays the game religiously, however - it's an aesthetically dense, intensely designed, supremely violent actioner that might actually match Mr. Wiseman's sensibilities rather well. More info as more become available.

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  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Very disappointing

    by FrodoFraggins

    hollywood doesn't GET IT

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Bling Bling Money, shug knight is my bitch

    by Jason Eisener

    he is

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Could Be Worse, I Suppose

    by Anton_Sirius


  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Gears of Bore

    by Kevin what we'll get.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Someone called it after the first screening

    by BitterMan23

    of Die Hard Faux. Because of all the Gears plugs in it, they said he was just hinting he wanted to do it.<br> <br> Fuck it, I don't care, as long as Nick Chinlund plays Fenix.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Live Free, Die Hard- pure comic book movie.

    by Uncapie

    John McClane should have died at least ten times in that film, but hey, he's the hero and its a money-making franchise. Still, I did like the car that took out the helicopter bit. The F-35 Harrier-type jet and the 18 wheeler on the freeway was a little too far out though.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:35 a.m. CST

    The American Paul W.S. Anderson

    by BigDude

    I hate hate HATE this guys work. He makes horribly devoid of character action films that just never work. I don't care about Gears of War, but I don't want him anywhere near Escape From New York. But I guess we all figured they would be fucking that remake up anyway.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Live Free or Die Hard sucked

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Thank god Jim Cameron is on his way back

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:35 a.m. CST

    If it means Kate Beckinsales fine ass

    by kingrobot

    appears in the movie then so be it.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Len Wiseman should not be let anywhere near this

    by misnomer

    it really is that simple. I recall DH getting a good script review on here too...but it looked like everything else killed it. EFNY hmmm....what about del toro? or someone like that....

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:37 a.m. CST

    its not a comic book movie!!

    by BigDude

    Have you ever read a comic book? Somehow comic books equate to silly over the top stunts for you? Fuck you.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Die Hard 4 was Great

    by Captain RawBeard

    apart from the Jet and 18 wheeler scene I thought it was a worthy entry into the Die Hard franchise. Len Wiseman would be good for Gears of War and it better be R Rated. Not sure about the Escape from New York remake though.<br> <br> Thank go its not Paul Anderson or Uwe Boll. Now that would have made me go Nooooooooooo

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:38 a.m. CST

    LForDH had some of the best...

    by SilentP

    action directing I've seen in a long time. Of course, I would prefer action movies drop the whole quick-cut editing bs altogether, but if it has to be done, Len Wisemen has shown he knows how to do it while still making it clear to the audience exactly what's going on at all times, which can't be said for most action directors these days. So I'm perfectly fine with this announcement, for now.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Fanboys are just jealous

    by Internet Thug

    that Wiseman is boning Kate beckinsdale..his movies have been entertaining.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:41 a.m. CST


    by Batutta

    Len Wiseman is a hack...His movies have no personality, and his style is about as deep as the blue desaturating filter he throws over every shot...But he gets to bang Kate Beckinsale so what does he care what some anonymous internet jag-offs think.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Does Gears of War actually have a storyline?

    by Neo Zeed

    I was under the impression that it was just point and shoot stuff.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Those defending Len Wiseman

    by kwisatzhaderach

    need to go watch Road Warrior, Terminator, Aliens, Die Hard, Terminator 2. Because those are well made, exciting action movies with characters you care about.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Len Wiseman = PG-13 Snake Plisken

    by Neo Zeed

    I predicted that Die Hard was gonna be PG-13, and this will definitely be PG-13. We might as well accept it.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:09 a.m. CST

    What happened to the Paul Rudd interview?

    by rev_skarekroe

    I had a great snappy comment to go with it.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:11 a.m. CST


    by kafka07

    his name keeps reminding me of that old school star wars-like anime by that name.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:16 a.m. CST


    by Vern

    At least it could have some good action scenes. And if Kevin Smith was in it he could play a head on a stake. Still don't think they should do this, though. I want Kurt Russell as Snake again.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Direct to DVD, lets sing it

    by wowsucks

    Direct to DVD, lets sing it together now. Think they will hire the rock for the Gears movie? I think Gear's could be made into a pure balls to the wall action movie, problem is finding the script and director that could do it. God with the way movies are going today just wait the Gears movie will have a love triangle.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:31 a.m. CST

    See well, I love Underworld....both movies

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    But as far as anyone remaking EFNY I think that idea just fucking sucks. We don't need to remake it. Just like they don't need a new cast playing TOS for the Star Trek "reboot". Why can't we just get something original? <BR> <BR> As far as GOW, I am fine with that. I think he will do a fine job with it.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Michael Davis

    by Spartacus Hughs


  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Awesome, 2 less movies to worry about seeing

    by Mullah Omar

    This news helps me narrow down my viewing schedule. Len Wiseman is sub-mediocrity in the worst sense, ie it's not even so bad it's good, it's just a waste of time. Seeing his name on a film is kind of like seeing a Mister Yuck sticker on a household product - so I guess I'm glad to know in advance that this is crap.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:39 a.m. CST


    by TheNorthlander

    Does anyone have a bunker? We could round up Uwe Boll, Len Wiseman, Tim Story and Paul WS Anderson and lock them up. All we need is a bunker. Who's with me?

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:43 a.m. CST

    at least it isn't Uwe Boll

    by kafka07

    But seriously I think there is hope for Wiseman. Underworld I didn't like but that's partly because I hate both vampires and werewolves. It did have a style to it that was pretty good. Die Hard 4 was far from perfect but I enjoyed it, and some of its epic stunts and carnage are what will be needed for an apocalyptic New York and GOW. Is he the best choice? I'm not saying that he is. But he's not an altogether bad one. Alfonso Cuaron would be an interesting candidate, but realistically he's not going to touch a video game movie or a remake of an 80's film. Zack Snyder would be another good candidate but he's busy with Watchmen. Like him or not, because of the timing and because of his resume' Wiseman just happened to be the best choice at the time.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:47 a.m. CST

    LOL !

    by MattHooper

    Yea, I don't really like his movies, either LOL ! Escape from Dreary Moviemaking, to soon be followed by sequel: Escape from Box Office Profit !

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:52 a.m. CST

    And Big Dude takes the short bus to school...

    by Uncapie

    Just like in Fantastic Four #25 where the Thing fights the Hulk and half the city is torn up, Hulk #2 where he fights the Toad Men from space, the Mighty Thor #142 where Thor fights the Super Skrull(Many buildings destroyed as the city's inhabitants look on in awe.) or even Sgt. Fury And His Howling Commandos issues #18 and #19 where Pam Hawley dies and Fury goes to exact his revenge. Yeah, it is a comic book movie.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Well, he wrecked the Die Hard franchise.....

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Might as well wreck another good film.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:53 a.m. CST


    by tile_mcgillus

    SEQUEL!!!!!!!!!!!! SEQUEL! GOD DAMNIT! More Russell Pliskin!

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:02 p.m. CST


    by PVIII

    I actually think Wiseman is a good choice for Gears, so fuck y'all. Also, everyone I know loved the new Die Hard, and while it should've been R, I still heartily enjoyed myself.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Wiseman is a hack...

    by Judge Briggs

    I hate his editing. So many stupid and claustrophobic close-ups.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:13 p.m. CST

    NOOOOOOOO! There goes any chance of a decent EFNYremake

    by KillaKane

    Just don't like the Wiseman's vapid style-no-substance filmaking, uneven and poorly structured from what I've seen. Hated Die Hard 4, with err..a vengeance. Pissed off with such a lame choice, on a par with hiring Anderson to remake Death Race.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Not sure about EFNY but GOW sounds right

    by antonphd

    I think Wiseman would be pretty perfect for a GOW movie. I think his Underworld films show that he'd be a great match for GOW. As for EFNY... I don't know... he showed marked improvement from the Underworld films with LFDH... he could make another leap. Tough to say. BUT BUT BUT BUT and this is a really important factor here... who the hell else is there to direct better action movies that is still interested in making them?

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:15 p.m. CST


    by BurgerKing

    Just because Die Hard is a hit the studios think he's fuckin Zack Snyder and can pick whatever project he wants? Gears has a horrible plot so I suppose he'd be fine with just chainsawing people up with mindless action which is cool, it wouldn't be bad for him, but for god sake, get better CGI in your films! As for Escape, he's too much of an idiot to be able to handle that properly.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:18 p.m. CST

    I agree with SilentP

    by David Cain

    <p>Live Free or Die Hard had some fresh action. I hated the Underworld movies but I was surprised by this as someone who didn't really care for Wiseman and a fan of the older movies.</p> <p>The action in that movie was better than the action in that John Hughes knock off with the giant robots that had about 45 minutes of action and over 100 minutes of garbage & GM advertising.</p> <p>Only The Bourne Ultimatum topped DH 4 this summer as far as action. So I'm down with the Gears of War thing, don't really care for another John Carpenter movie remake either way though.</p>

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Wiseman is a lucky lucky man.

    by HarryBlackPotter

    His career is on the up and up and despite what Merrick the half-wit says, he IS a good visual artist. Sure, Underworld was underwhelming, but the sequel surprised me by being a far superior sequel with great action. And I really, really dug DH4. But he's also married to the gorgeous Kate Beckinsale, so you gotta hand it to the guy. He's one lucky fella.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:21 p.m. CST


    by TheBloop

    Leave it to this assclown to make a movie about a war between Vampires and Werewolves boring. Kate B, please do some soft core pron before you do these stupid movies again.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Len Wiseman is worse than...

    by Gozu

    Paul W.S. Anderson, Rob Zombie, AND Uwe Boll. Why? Because his films are tedious exercises that really serve only to remind you of the films he's ripping off. At least I can have fun watching "Mortal Kombat," "House of the Dead," or "Devil's Rejects" even if they're bad movies.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:25 p.m. CST


    by skimn

    didn't totally fuck up Die Hard, although I thought the finale was pretty weak. When will Hollywood learn though...has there been a good movie at all made from a video game? And NO, as a movie that made sense Silent Hill doesn't count. Sure it was atmospheric and creepy, but as a movie it sucked. Doom had as much if not more potential than this, and look at that crapfest. And if New York must be remade, I was holding out for the guy who directed The Nest. As least he's got some visual style.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Lets give the guy a chance...

    by Racer Z

    I enjoyed the Underworld movies. Yeah, they're not to deep, but they are stylish and fun. I can't speak for the latest Die Hard since I haven't seen it and frankly don't care to. I mean, let's keep it real folks, there's never been anything too intellectual about what has been essentially an action film formula. The first Die Hard is good, but little more than an a lot of shooting and blowing stuff up. The second was the same movie in an airport. And the third was just Dirty Harry wrapped in a Die Hard package. So I'm not sure what everyone expected from another one. Cut Wiseman some slack. He's young and can still grow as a filmmaker. There's definitely potential there.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Wiseman is the new WS.

    by polyh3dron

    He gets the gigs directing the properties we love, and he turns them to SHIT.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:49 p.m. CST


    by liljuniorbrown

    That woman has an ass that makes me loose all normal thoughts. If he screws up EFNY he'd better have a back up plan,cause his career's over.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Who were you expecting?

    by epitone

    No, really. An ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK remake? Even done well, who would go near it? Marcus Nispel, Uwe Boll, Rob Zombie. Maybe -- MAYBE -- it could have fallen into the hands of someone whose name rhymes with "Wet Shatner." But Len Wiseman ain't exactly unexpected. At least we know this much: Kate Beckinsale will have work!

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Escape From Detroit...

    by skimn did that 15 years ago...

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 1 p.m. CST

    I hope it will be more Die Hard 4.0 than Underworld.

    by DerLanghaarige

    Although Triple X 4.0 wasn't that good anyway, it was at least much, much better than Underworld!

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 1:04 p.m. CST

    They should get Alex Proyas.

    by TheNorthlander

    Or Robert Rodriguez. Or Martin Campbell or Paul Veerhoven or even Yahoo Serious before considdering Len Wiseman.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 1:05 p.m. CST

    So a director is fucking an actress?

    by Kirk's Toupee

    Hmmm...I've never heard of that happening before.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Live Free was a mess

    by SpencerTrilby

    terrible script with plot holes so fuckin huge you can't even try to pretend you haven't noticed them, lame attempts at humor that reminded me of Lethal Weapon 3, no tension whatsoever, an awful bad guy, chopped up editing and these FUCKING BLUE FILTERS. Of course there's John MaFUCKINGClane and a couple of nice moneyshots, but it doesn't redeem the movie for being a self-indulgent mess that starts "gritty" (well, by PG-13 standards) and ends up goofy (the last action scene negates EVERYTHING that precedes: same that DHWAV, except that that one was clever, suspenseful and SamJackson-ish). <p> I don't care about GoW (like someone said earlier it's a decent game because of the looks and some nice gamplay: not really screaming "GOOD MOVIE MATERIAL" like other worthy games) but the good EFNY script review made this project intriguing. Well, not anymore.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 1:12 p.m. CST

    He's a bad choice

    by MatDGZ

    If New Line say 'yes' to this they are carving the letters into the tombstone of the movie. Wiseman sucks balls. He's a good 2nd unit director - the actions great but everything else is a sack of shit. EFNY should be in the hands of a filmmaker like David Fincher - I'd pay to see that.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Re: TheNorthlander

    by Rendell

    Holy Fuck, Paul Veerhoven does Gears of War!!! That would be a match made in (Action movie) heaven!

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 1:28 p.m. CST

    The worst mistake a director can make...

    by Frank Black

    ...Video game adaptations & remakes. Die Hard 4 was fun for the first 90 minutes and then it was exhaustingly cheesy and over the top. Wiseman has potential but these are steps backwards. Gears is a fun game but wouldn't make a good movie and Escape From NY doesn't need a remake.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 1:28 p.m. CST

    I'm an early John Carpenter fan...

    by Racer Z

    but when he fails, he falls flat on his face. Escape From L.A., Vampires, Ghosts of Mars? There was very little (if anything) interesting about those films. That said, I would still like to see a 50 something Kurt Russell take on Snake one more time. And don't get me wrong from my earlier comment about Wiseman. While I think he's a young director with great potential, I REALLY don't want to see anyone remake EFNY.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Lets talk casting now. The Rock will be in both.

    by Baron Karza

    Because Hollywood dont fucking care.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 1:43 p.m. CST

    DO you people now see why its important to NOT....

    by IndustryKiller!

    see these awful fucking genre films when they hit theaters? When a shit director does something you know will be awful, like let's say the next Die Hard movie, you vote the only way you can, with your wallet and online hype. Leading up to the film dont make bullshit justifications and tepid praises about how it could be "ok" or "the action might be watchable" or "I like Vampires so I liked Underworld." and then see it in theaters when you know damn well its going to be garbage. But nope, the film was a minor hit and now this fucking hack gets to make not one but TWO film projects that in the right hands might have worked. Ok well EFNY wont work in principle alone but you know what I mean. So let's cut this shit out and stop going to see these shit films by these know nothing loser directors and then tear them to shreds rather than make excuses and apologize for them when they come out and maybe we'll actually accomplish something. Comprende?

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Kurt Russel, and Bruce Campbell

    by RokurGepta

    need to make a movie called.... <p> "Escape from the Evil Dead"

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST

    MEH...GOW does not really

    by lionbiu

    MEH...GOW does not really have a storyline so he should be fine with that. Die Hard 4 was alright, it was far better than Transformers in action and acting so I don't get the hate. There never should be a remake of Escape from New York..a sequel, yes!

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Ang Lee's Escape From New York

    by Internet Thug

    Yes lots of exploration of deep emotional character issues making us really FEEL for them. $100 million opening weekend guaranteed.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Overreact much?

    by RAVENL0RD

    First off, the Underworld films are not nearly as bad as you all say they are. I have not seen Live Free or Die Hard yet, so I can't comment on it, but it looked decent and reviews were in the 70% on Rotten Tomatoes, if that means anything. I think Escape's success will hinge on the casting of Snake. Gears just needs to be crap blowing up and it will be fine.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Are you kidding

    by RokurGepta

    the Underworld films are right up there with Jessica Simpson on the wall of fucking stupid

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Can someone explain WHY we need an EFNY remake?

    by BringingSexyBack

    May as well remake Wizard of Oz with Paris Hilton.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Mother fu... (gunshot)

    by taxman2001

    Nuff said...

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 2:28 p.m. CST

    How about a black Snake Plissken and a white Duke of NY

    by BringingSexyBack

    and make them both homosexual, just to spice things up.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Sad story. Got a smoke?

    by TheHolyDeuce

    Gears of War might be a fun way to kill a couple of hours. But why reinvent Escape from New York? It's about as unnecessary as panties on Britney Spears.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 2:40 p.m. CST

    I wouldn't mind a remake of Alien

    by BringingSexyBack

    if Kate Beckinsale does that open crotch shot with a thong.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Gears of War movie pitch:

    by smackfu

    "It's about this soldier...who ducks behind obstacles and shoots out around them."

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Gears is fantastic online.single player is afterthought

    by Orionsangels

    There's no real story on the single player campaign and you'll finish it in two days. What made the game popular is multiplayer. I haven't stopped playing it since I got the game in December. That's where the magic of the game happens.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Oh, Christ!

    by oceanic86

    Fuck that guy! <p>Speaking of videogame movies, though, my dream scenario would be Alfonso Cuaron directing a Half-Life 2 movie. Just thinking about it gives me chills. Too bad it will never happen in a million years.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 2:54 p.m. CST


    by lost.rules

    that is all

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 2:54 p.m. CST

    G.O.W casting

    by Internet Thug

    So who's gonna play the asshole griefer?

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 3:36 p.m. CST

    gears of war rated pg13

    by Evil Hobbit

    mark my words, no chainsaw people splitting

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Good God Nooooooooo!!!!!!!

    by ChiTownsBest

    This is exactly the type of director who shouldn't be within a mile of an Escape From New York remake. His movies look waaaay to slick for a movie that should have some serious grit to it. An EFNY should have the feel and darkness of a Batman Begins and not the fake looking darkness and phony look of Underworld and Live Free Die Hard. I don't want to see Snake Plisken fight some Euro Trash metrosexual looking villain. This is so wrong on so many levels but I knew he was going to get a few too many opportunities after the success of LFDH. LFDH was not a Die Hard movie and I doubt that Snake will be the Snake we all know under Wisemans direction.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Wiseman > WankShit Anderson > Boll

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    So for me it's kinda good news.<p>LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD was the best summer sequel so far (Bourne still to come) and it wasn't any weaker/dumber/overblown than DIE HARD 2 or WAV. It surely wasn't anywhere near the original DIE HARD but nobody could honestly expect that. UNDERWURLDE 1+2 were crap, though.<p>GEARS OF WAR is a nice but highly overrated action game with zero story, so what will the movie conversion be like regardless which director will do it...<p>ESCAPE FROM NY remake? Nice. Hopefully it'll be better than the graying 80s version.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 3:46 p.m. CST

    LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD was fine except for the jet scene

    by SpyGuy

    The pacing moved along nicely and was a decent outing for John, McClane. The only thing that didn't work was the nonsensical truck vs. jet freeway battle, which came off as a completely unnecessary way to blow the film budget. <p>As for an ESCAPE FOR NEW YORK remake, Wiseman may be a good pick if the studio feels they just HAVE to do it. His films have a slightly cheesy factor to them the same way John Carpenter's films do and they certainly aren't destined to win any Academy Awards any time soon. If nothing else, a Wiseman EFNY remake should be better than ESCAPE FROM L.A....</p>

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Gears of War Casting possibilities

    by RokurGepta

    Michael Duncan Clark, Michael Chiklis, Duane "The Rock" Johnson, Michael Biehn,

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Nobody's said it yet

    by skimn

    but any video game adaptation with "war" in the title should be GOD OF WAR!!

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 4:07 p.m. CST

    I can't understand how some people are OK with

    by SpencerTrilby

    Mr Beckinsale directing EFNY. First: this movie has no business to be remade, unless BOTH script and director are top notch. Which leads me to my second point: even if some were "pleasantly surprised" by LFoDH (that's what happens when you lower your expectations under the sea level) Wiseman is the prototype of the neutered, metrosexual yes man. He couldn't even fake rebellion and anti-conformism to save his life. <p> Considering that the original EFNY is the ultimate "Fuck You Attitude" flick (along with Alex Cox and Tsukamoto films) he's nothing but a bad choice. I'm pretty sure the factors for his hiring are: <p> 1/ the unholy success of LFoDH and <p> 2/ some New Line exec watched the original EFNY for the first time last week and noticed the shattering similitudes between Carpenter's direction and Wiseman's: 7000 blue-filtered shots can't be wrong.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 4:08 p.m. CST

    "aesthetically dense"??

    by El Mono

    Wtf does that even mean? Merrick tries so hard not to sound dumb that he ends up doing just the opposite by his misuse "College" words. Cool your jets professor, they're just movies

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Wiseman doesn't realy....

    by mastes360

    bother me anymore, Live Free Or Die hard was a great action film imo and my favorite film of the summer. For that i think Wiseman deserves another chance.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Live Free or Die Hard was awesome

    by silver screen surfer

    Haters are wrong.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST

    I have mentioned this before

    by RokurGepta

    the thing about articles appearing on AICN, several days, sometimes over a week after the stories broke on other websites. It's no longer NEWS if old information, I think it's fairly weak sauce journalism, to write an article about someone else's article, what happened to the old underground journalism AICN used to have..... Oh yeah, AICN is basically advertising space for the production companies, if you need any evidence, I point you towards the rampant advertisments in the form of banners, i.e. figurines from the show prison break? are you fucking kidding me, prison break figures, <p> It seems to me that some people are getting paid to write good reviews of bad movies, and paid to advertise really bad products. Now I understand that AICN has become a profitable business, but I think that it's coasting by at the moment, and the momentum it built up from back in the day, and I believe it's possible, the site could keep going on this momentum, but it could also slow down and come to a complete halt. I think an updated look is definately needed, maybe tabbed pages for the talkbacks, maybe an edit feature. Maybe some contests to win some DVD's. I dunno, I'm frusterated, I'm sorry

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST


    by Jackie Boy

    my thoughts exactly.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 4:45 p.m. CST


    by McClane_Corleone

    There's no reason to remake Escape anyway. They should just do another sequel.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 4:48 p.m. CST

    and the sequel should be

    by RokurGepta

    Escape from the Evil Dead starring Kurt Russel and Bruce Campbell

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 5:20 p.m. CST

    What exactly does Die Hard 4 Being PG-13

    by Internet Thug

    Have to do with Wiseman? Did he executive produce and put up the money to make it?

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Forgettable movies, forgettable director

    by sevadro

    It makes me sad that Hollywood is so hungry to buy up all these great properties - just to hand them off to flavor of the month "directors" like Len Wiseman. No doubt, the guy is very cool and very imaginative. He just doesn't have the raw talent to pull off the epic movie -- and I doubt he ever will. It's like they say - either you got it...or you don't. He should probably just stay home and fuck his piece of ass wife.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 5:35 p.m. CST

    so what?

    by Internet Thug

    My comment was more for the crowd bitching about a pg-13 rating than your particular post just makes no sense to blame a guy who is hired to make a film for the eventual rating..just like a grip he is an employee and if you put up 140 million to make a pic that group calls the shots..shit a lot of the times the editor etc..isn't even down with the director anyway..these are hired crews paid to deliver a product..for people to bag Wiseman for the rating is fucked..I am sure he would have loved to give you Yippee Ki Yay Motherfucker but that decision is not his to make.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 6:01 p.m. CST


    by RokurGepta

    Live Free or Die Hard <p> why was it rated PG-13, and also, apparently the word "Fuck" is allowed to be used under certain guidelines in a PG-13 movie. <p> If a film uses "one of the harsher sexually derived words" (such as fuck) one to three times, it is routine today for the film to receive a PG-13 rating, provided that the word is used as an expletive and not with a sexual meaning (this was mentioned in Be Cool, when Chili Palmer complains about the movie industry. Fuck is said twice in that scene with a lot of other uses of language, giving the movie a PG-13). An example of a film that might suggest this criteria is Waiting for Guffman, which contains mostly PG-13 (some could even argue PG) content, yet is rated R (brief strong language) because a man auditioning for a role uses fuck while quoting Raging Bull (the only time it is spoken in the movie), in a sexual sense. Exceptions may be allowed, "by a special vote of the ratings board" where the board feels such an exception would better reflect the sensibilities of American parents. <p> -------------------------------------------------------------- <p> so why the fuck couldn't he say "yipee kay yay mother fucker"

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 6:07 p.m. CST


    by Internet Thug

    Because Motherfucker is classified with Cunt as one of the really bad words.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 6:16 p.m. CST


    by misnomer

    because motherfucker is a sexual use of the word fuck last time I checked?!?! as in you fuck your mother. fuck=sexual act. what the fuck? = no sexual connotation. this is fucking shit= no sexual connotation. go fuck yourself= sexual connotation.....

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 6:17 p.m. CST

    and LFODH sucked. having

    by misnomer

    and LFODH sucked. having extra blood and swearing in that movie wouldnt have saved it. DHWAV was a much better movie all round.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 6:22 p.m. CST


    by The Real MiraJeff

    no Carpenter but I liked DH4 way more than the other bloated summer movies like Spidey 3 and Transformers. Sure the villain was weak, a major no-no in the DH franchise considering they've had Rickman and Irons foil McClane, but on the whole, it delivered some visceral thrills. Loved the threatening presidential montage and Justin Long was a pretty good addition too. The stuff with Lucy just didn't work, but I feel like the studio's more to blame for that decision, not Wiseman.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Wiseman is good at stealing people's wives, so...

    by The Dum Guy

    So, he has something else going for him, other than making movies.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 6:36 p.m. CST


    by torontoxic

    Needs Dominic Sena. Wiseman will be good enough in 10 years....maybe.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Last time I checked

    by SpencerTrilby

    when a director signs for a movie he endorses all of it: the good AND the bad. The movie he signed for wad PG-13 from the start, and had the "daughter-in-distress" silly subplot in it too. He chose to sign for it, hence he's responsible. Studios are evil (especially Fox) but this kind of de-responsabilisation (does that word exist? Now it does!) is bullshit. If the movie fails or succeeds it's his fault, period. He knew from the start, he could've said no. But he signed and shot the damn script, so he's in charge. People need to stop blaming studios when the faults are equally divided between Rothman (that man is a demon. Really) the screenwriters (they got paid for that POS?) and the director who puts his name on it eventually. It doesn't mean he's an auteur, just another yes-man.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 7:01 p.m. CST

    alls i want is escape from earth

    by LarryTheCableGuy

    or whatever. part III would rule since L.A. had the fucking best movie ending ever.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 7:07 p.m. CST


    by SpencerTrilby

    EFLA was weak overall, but the ending shows what Carpenter can achieve when one tackles CGI and anarchy altogether. FUCKIN BRILLIANT ENDING, almost redeems for the surfing Peter Fonda.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Who would they cast as Fenix?

    by LittleDudes

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 7:12 p.m. CST

    admittedly the Underworld films were

    by Geek Sodomizer

    extremely mediocre. But I really enjoyed Live Free or Die Hard, and thought the direction was excellent. I think he's the perfect choice for Gears of War, maybe not so much the Escape remake but we'll see, maybe he'll do the script justice.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Funny how many

    by Internet Thug

    director's cuts have come out on dvd..every story about how the studio fucked over their vision and this is how they would have wanted it and we are eager to lap up their tales of big guy fucked me over after time..but for today's directors you try to hold them to a standard where they are the sole buck stops here guy.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 7:21 p.m. CST

    hey LittleDudes

    by RokurGepta

    your link is busted

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 7:38 p.m. CST

    WHY Hollywood doesn't get it....

    by RokurGepta

    it's because the "church" of Scientology has covertly and not so covertly bought off a large portion of hollywood, and well if anyone is off their fucking rockers, it's them. they fucking believe that paying money to the church enlightens them, and the more money they pay, the better people they are, also, they believe a fucking flying saucer is going to come rescue them someday. They are basically a not so secret society... fucking nutters

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 8:37 p.m. CST


    by tango fett

    the question is, how could Wiseman take such a cool concept (Romeo and Juliet with VAMPIRES AND WEREWOLVES) and make it as boring as Underworld turned out to be? as that one guy said in that one thing I saw, "the mind boggles." still never saw Live Free or Die Hard but I heard it was really good. who knows? but yeah, is Escape From New York REALLY as great and awesome as you kids make it out to be? PS - story or no, I am stoked for a Gears of War movie all the way! okay, maybe that's not a good attitude, but still, to see the Hammer of Dawn put to good use would be nothing short of the TITS. WHOO! ~chest bumps nearest fat kid~

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Kate Beckinsale as Snake Plissken?

    by kabong

    Or will she play the vampire princess? <p> No vampires in EFNY? <p> Oh, maybe there will be TEENS!!!!! <p> Whatever, you know it's going to stink. <p> It's over, Hollyweird; hurry up and die!

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:56 p.m. CST

    wiseman sucks

    by LarryTheCableGuy

    dh4 sucked, try watching it a 2nd time. its lame, the bad guy sucked, the action was ok but the inbetween stuff was stupid and theyre were no real cool other characters, and it was pg13. face it. i waited 13 years for nothing. plus the bruce willis's whole daughter and sidekick boy's been done in armageddon. the movie stunk and i'm sad. i don't blame wiseman for all this, but still he should have known better, and so should willis, and so should mcteirnan who produced it i think. underworld 1, i never saw 2, was so boring and stylish, a waste of the whole vampire vs wearwolves idea, almost makes howling 5 seem better than it was. werewolves fight vampires and they use guns?? come on. i can't believe anyone would defend this movie. lens wiseman can have a super hot wife but he'll never have my respect. i'm betting these guys all know that the worlds deffinately coming to an end and know the exact date and have decided to just make as much money they can possibly make producing hig grossing junk so they can live comfortably til then. as for escape from la, it had shitty fx, but it had great side characters, can't beat steve buschemi, bruce campbell, pam grier etc. and a great ending. it was cheesy but charming and fun.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:06 p.m. CST


    by Denizzz

    I couldn't care less who directs Gears of War,since it will just be another shitty quick buck game adaptation anyway.Escape should not be touched by anyone except by Carpenter himself.Carpenter needs to get his act together and do some proper movies again.

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 11:23 p.m. CST


    by Vern

    Sorry for the all caps but I felt it was necessary to overpower the sting of Snipes's current legal troubles. I was discussing this remake with a buddy of mine, the Michael Bay fan referred to in my TRANSFORMERS review, and I was wondering who they could get to play the Duke when he dropped that idea on me. I think it's brilliant. He was saying how Isaac Hayes was a great villain because he's the bad guy but he's so cool you like him anyway, even if you want Snake to kill him. And I think Wesley fits the bill for that. Think of Nino Brown in NEW JACK CITY. Wesley can play the cool part in his sleep, he can also do any more difficult acting if required, in fact they could even make the Duke fight if they wanted to due to his capoeria skills.<p> Wiseman, you won me over with LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD. But you owe me for putting Kevin Smith in that shit. So think about it bud. You know it's the right thing to do.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 12:28 a.m. CST

    I'm telling you

    by RokurGepta

    Escape from the Evil Dead starring Kurt Russel, and Bruce Campbell is a guaranteed WIN WIN WIN

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 1:04 a.m. CST


    by SpencerTrilby

    I almost forgot your unholy review of "Live free..." so thanks for the reminder. What's next? Wiseman remaking "Out for Justice" starring Matthew McConaughey? When it happens make sure to give Wiseman all the shit he deserved for his wannabe McClane flick. You pulled your punches last time buddy. Cause I can't believe you REALLY loved it.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 2:20 a.m. CST

    Snipes is A#1

    by redfist

    As long as he doesn´t play it giddy like Demolition Man. He would be a bad ass Duke. I have read the script and they need someone that can pull off ultra GEORGE MILLER!!! those underworld movies were 6 gays to fooking stupid and style over substance. and Kate beckensale...or whatever is not all that hot.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Vern you've gotta be fucking kidding

    by IndustryKiller!

    Look man I love ya, every sentient being who frequents this site owes you huge for that Transformers review, but enough is enough with the Wiseman loving. The Underworld movies are atrocious. How one could make a werewolf vs. vampire movie that bad and uncool, when he even got to write the script, is totally beyond me. And in your Die Hard review you sound like you had a good time but is that grounds for giving the guy a free ticket until he gets the opportunity to ruin something else? WHich you and I both know he will inevitably do. If youa re that gaga over the action in the film is just because your faculties have been sliced away by years of god awful directors like Michael bay ruling the action landscape. The movie was a bastardization of Die Hard. Period. It might be watchable if you can disassociate the film from the franchise, but even then only on a purely "lesser of many evils" level. We really should not be giving this guy such undue credit, especially a smart fella like yourself.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 3:28 a.m. CST

    Crap Story, a film might be an improvement.

    by Kizeesh

    Gears had so little plot that at times it was completely unclear why you were even fighting through some particular place. <p> it was an action game made of set-pieces that were cobbled into an Ad Hoc single player campaign. Its a great fun blast, but anyone saying that Wiseman will ruin the story is a fucking tool.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 4:22 a.m. CST

    Len Wiseman is the new Stephen Summers

    by 300spartansinhell

    For every Zach Snyder there are 3 new len wisemans. Very mediocre directors who talk more than they direct. I checked out the Van Helsing dvd behind the scenes stuff and now I know why that movie sucked so much. Summers said something like, "oh I love the universal monsters and I wanted to take them to the next level with the new technology." He should have added, "oh and that´s why there was no story, cause I loved playing with the werewolfe cgi so much that I forgot to write a decent script" Same could be said about Underworld movies.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 4:37 a.m. CST

    No Neo Zed

    by 300spartansinhell

    Gears of war has no story at all. I can understand they want to make a film out of Halo, but gears´ story was non existent, and so many fans there are not. They need to make another two games before they do a film.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 4:38 a.m. CST

    Len Wiseman is the DEVIL INCARNATE

    by stamper

    This announcement right away took off my interest in this remake. In fact, as already said, this remake sucks because it's a remake. Let's do Plissken Begins, aka ESCAPE FROM LENINGRAD not some techno computer version of the original analog retro-futuristic synth movie. Not some lesser remake of what remains one of the best original Carpenter movies ever.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 5:07 a.m. CST

    DH 4 was a blast

    by barnaby jones

    and the dvd will be even better. Wiseman's ok, the Underworld movies were alright. He could go on to become a decent film maker.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 5:49 a.m. CST

    Live free or die Hard....

    by emeraldboy

    was ruined because of the villain. olyphant was wrong for this movie. He looks uncannily Billy bob thornton. Maggie Q's demise was sensational. She's at the bottom of a vent with a SUV stuck up her ass. briliant. The villain needed to be a mystery figure. Not a pissed of ex-govt official.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 6:02 a.m. CST

    WISEMAN doesn't have the BALLS or style for G.O.W!!!

    by silentbobafett2


  • Aug. 4, 2007, 7:12 a.m. CST

    You realise he'll probably cast his ole' buddy...

    by gerbalBOY


  • Aug. 4, 2007, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Oh Dear

    by EthanRunt

    Another terrible director inexplicably given way too much work, hell, Die Hard 4.0's action wasn't even that good, so the whole film, short of the Smith scenes, were shit. Maybe offer it to someone with this little thing called talent next time? Michael Mann could get it done.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Live Free or Die Hard was boring????

    by BigTuna

    It was non-stop, balls to the wall action. I loved it. Best film of the summer. Wiseman did a great job.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 8:32 a.m. CST

    I just hope Shia LaPoof....

    by Dr Gregory House

    ...isn't Snake's son or some shit.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 8:46 a.m. CST

    snake plisken in leather

    by LarryTheCableGuy

    ok its been done. snake plisken shooting guns in slow mo as the camera pans around him. crap. what an original take he's gonna bring to the franchise. i'd rather, if they must get another actor to take the part, make it a tv series about snake doing small missions for people who need help in the underground usa. before or after the movies. there was a short lived comic book series, i think i remember it being like that. or how about that anime they planned once. the highlander anime kinda reminded me of that. the character was defiinately the same nihalistic type.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 8:58 a.m. CST


    by RockLobster800

    Im not ging to bother watching either of them anyway-why watch a remake of Escape when I have it done perfectly well on DVD already? In other news, Empire wrote a glowing analysis of Brett Ratners career, saying he was a major of Hollywood player of notable talent even though throughout it they have to admit all he makes are crap action sequels with zero artisitic integrety. I wonder if he paid them to do it?

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 9 a.m. CST

    Gears of War is fucking awesome

    by calnorso

    The visuals in that game are mind blowing, those of you who just think that if they blow a bunch of shit up and that'd be okay are clearly mistaking. The setting is very cinematic, trouble is with everyone out here is you're too obsessed with comic-books and graphic novel adaptations. Does anyone even buy that shit, really, who actually buys comics books these days. I don't think anyone has bought a comic book since 1976 . So far every video game adaptation has sucked, I'll give you that but I'm telling you, if Hollywood would give the producers the money they need to make a decent video game adaptation then you guys would see how much better they are than fucking comic-books

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Hey Vern isn't Butler already cast as Snake?

    by Orbots Commander

    You know, the dude who played Leonidas in 300. I'm sure I've read that it's confirmed he'll play Plisken.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 9:51 a.m. CST

    I'm gonna make ZERO friends with this...

    by Fawst

    But Underworld, a movie that I thought was a clinic on style over substance, was... well, about a hundred times better than Escape From L.A. If we were talking about a Big Trouble In Little China remake, I would be up in arms, but - we're not. And I don't understand all the hate for Underworld 2. THAT was a good action movie. I dare anyone to watch that movie and play through Gears of War and tell me he's not perfect for it. If you want to bitch and cry about the EFNY debacle, go for it, but remember that that's a remake that shouldn't exist and isn't "his fault." Half the time directors get ripped apart for their films, it's unjust. Take a step back, look at the STORY you're watching. If the story sucks, you're not gonna get much excitement, are you? If the director didn't write it... can he really be to blame? I can appreciate Underworld for its visual style, but beyond that, it was a horribly written story with too many "insert action sequence with characters we don't care about here" moments. U2 on the other hand? Very well done. Not many fringe characters that we didn't give a shit about. Case in point, what happens not long into the movie? The euro-douche from the first one gets killed. It was like they tapped and said "we get it, secondary characters be damned this time, it's about the mains." I'm telling you, he's gonna knock GoW out of the park. EFNY is another story, but you know what? Fuck EFNY. Another useless remake. Try remaking something that SHOULD be remade. And this guy is no Uwe or W.S., sorry. He actually has a good eye for action.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Sounds like they're really going to do it

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I'm not usually against remakes, and I'm not totally against this one, but it does mean a third Carpenter/Russell Snake Plissken adventure is almost certainly never going to happen. That is a real shame, I think.<p>I rewatched NY and LA as a special 'I have no life' double bill the other week, and I still enjoyed them both. LA is very underrated and easily the funniest of the two, but NY is obviously the best. Once I got to the end of LA, it hit me how much I'd love to see Russell play that role one more time.<p>That looks more and more like a pipe dream, though. Oh, well. Maybe this remake will be good. I mean, it's from the guy who gave us Underworld Evolution and a cartoon version of Die Hard, right? What could possibly go wrong?

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Everybody goes on endlessly about how they hate

    by emeraldboy

    Len wisemen, Bay and boll. I heard a piece news yesterday that if true will be one of the worst things to happen to the film world in Decades. SIMON COWELL is going into the movie business. This is the same man who has destroyed pop music by flushing the charts with crap. By flooding the tv with crap too and now he is about to enter the film world. boll and bay bashers have had their day. Anyone bashes either men from on. should be reminded of this: SIMON COWELL IS ENTERING THE MOVIE BUSINESS.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 1:31 p.m. CST


    by Cult Exiter


  • Aug. 4, 2007, 2:19 p.m. CST

    they have cloned Bol....

    by mitemike

    well, someone has to fill Bols shoes here in the U.S. congrats Mr wiseman, you can pick up your award at the door.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 2:31 p.m. CST

    well hello PG-13 boring dull lacklustre effects-driven

    by flipster

    drivel. I did play Gears of War all the way through and it was enjoyable. but hardly something Mr. Disney Die Hard should be touching if anyone at all. Don;t make the film - make a great game world like the GTA series or make movies, stop trying to do both, it just comes off as lame, imo.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Simon COwell enters the movie business

    by emeraldboy

    as if he hasnt screwed up all other forms of entertainment. SYCO films hires PWS anderson. think im being funny. wait and see. While on a trip to Germany Cowell bumps into Dr boll and they talk......Cowell Hires Boll..BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 2:56 p.m. CST


    by Kree42

    Are movies art? I think acting is a craft as you are taking someone's words and speaking them and emoting under direction. Just a thought and curious about what others think ,in a constructive way, not just typical board answers.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Merrick...You are wrong...Die Hard 4 was great!

    by vettebro

    Now "Sunshine", that sucked ass badly...

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 4:37 p.m. CST


    by TheNorthlander

    Art and Craft go hand in hand. Making a painting is as much art as it is a craft, so is carving a table and writing a book.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Video Game adapatations always turn out well

    by robzass

    I mean such cinematic classics as Super Mario Bros., Bloodrayne, Resident Evil trilogy, Alone in the Dark, Doom, and others all were spawned from games.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 5:52 p.m. CST

    So, who's this Real MiraJeff guy?

    by Gilkuliehe

    And why does he have a black box? He seems to be showing up every now and then but to me he sounds like a regular talkbacker... Are yoy Harry's cousin or something? Are you Bruce Willis? What the fuck, man.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 6:21 p.m. CST

    videogame adaptations...

    by TheNorthlander

    ...have all pretty much sucked so far, but remember that in a few years the same thing that happened to the comicbook-to-film adaptations might happen to the videogame-to-film when a generation of film makers that grew up with these games rise to power in hollywood.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Have you noticed

    by emp

    that most good directors begin their career with making one or more good movies movies and then maybe at some point makes one or more bad ones? Len Wiseman began with making shit, continued to make (gunshot) shit, and will probably always make shit. So stop it with the "He could go on to become a decent film maker"... shit.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 7:08 p.m. CST


    by TheNorthlander

    agreed. he's worse than Renny Harlin. Renny has always made shit, but somehow some way he managed to actually make Long Kiss Goodnight. That's his one redeeming movie that sets him above Len Wiseman/Paul WS Anderson/Tim Story standard. None of these guys understand storytelling.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 8:44 p.m. CST


    by Kree42

    Northlander, as they by definition mean the same thing I see what you mean ,but I'm talking about acting I guess. Is it art? On topic I kinda like a bit of mindless entertainment. As with all all things if you dont like his movies pay him no mind and find something you do like.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 8:45 p.m. CST

    What's with all the Len Wiseman bashing?

    by glodene

    The Underworld movies were fun. Not high art, but fun. He knows how to set-up a good action sequence with some WOW! I think he'd be perfect to direct EFNY...At least with him directing, it'll guarantee that it'll be way more exciting than the original. I said it once and i'll say it again, the problem with John Carpenter is that he has a problem interpreting his own material. He comes up with great ideas and plots, but he seems to have a problem executing them...Now every once in a while he does knock one out of the ballpark, suchas The Thing; In The Mouth of Madness; The made for TV Elvis Biopic w/Kurt Russell, but the rest of his efforts tends to be cold and unemotional.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 10:44 p.m. CST

    If Kurt Russell were to reprise (instead of Butler),

    by kabong

    then that would mean Len Wiseman would have to rerun his Die Hardly trope of the hero's son going for the teen demographic. <p> I was going to riff on Ving's mastiffs, but shuttlepod_10 had to deprive me of the opportunity.

  • Aug. 4, 2007, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Industry Killer

    by Vern

    Hey bud, I actually agree with your talkback other than the part about LIVE FREE being a bastardization of DIE HARD. I think you're reading too much into what I wrote. I still would not consider myself a Len Wiseman fan. The first UNDERWORLD was okay I guess but the second one drove me fuckin nuts with all its people standing around talking about what other people did hundreds of years ago. That was just bad storytelling.<p> But yes, I gained some respect for him for LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD because, while it is obviously flawed what with the Kevin Smith cameo and the PG-13 and what not, I did enjoy it. For that reason the idea of him directing ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK is almost a relief because I was expecting them to hire somebody much more terrible. At least this guy I know has some skills at action scenes and some respect for '80s tough guy icons. But I'm just saying he's not the worst choice, I'm not saying he's ideal. They shouldn't do this movie unless they could get a real visionary who would add new dimension to the story. (Paul Verhoeven is probaly busy pitching TRANSFORMERS 2 though.)<p> Honestly, I think the story of ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK is good material for a remake, and it's not one of Carpenter's more political movies, so there's room to add more substance to it instead of take it away. But the problem is Snake Plissken and the fact that he IS Kurt Russell. When they remade YOJIMBO as FISTFUL OF DOLLARS they somehow found a badass who was almost as good as the original. But Gerald Butler is no Clint Eastwood, I'm not sure it could work. And more importantly I was still holding out hope for a return of the real Snake Plissken until I heard they were making this. Jesus man, imagine *old* Snake Plissken! Get Stallone to direct and call it SNAKE PLISSKEN. (just kidding.) Maybe the only chance we have of the real Snake returning is if the remake fails and everybody forgets it right away and they wait another ten years. Or I guess two judging by modern attention spans.<p> I don't think we're on opposite sides here bud, I'm just not as hardline as you are. I am more of an industry ball-puncher, not as much of an industry killer. Maybe a stabber but the wounds are not fatal.

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Duke Of New York

    by ChiTownsBest

    Will be played by Taye Diggs if Wiseman directs. He is the only black actors close enough to the Euro trash villains he usually employs in his movies. Maybe he could get Will Smith as Snake Plisken so we can finally here Snake tell the Duke" Oh Hell Naaawwww!!!" right before he kicks the dukes ass.

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Gerard Butler

    by ChiTownsBest

    I thought he would make a decent Snake but Wiseman will make him look like a pansy. Where the hell are all the hardcore action directors? Enough of that phony quick cut BS already. There has to be someone out there who can direct a balls to the wall action movie. The type of action movie that feels like it has substance to it no matter how ridiculous the premise. Wiseman is not that director.

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 2:46 a.m. CST

    They should have cast Damon as Plissken

    by stamper

    They should have cast Damon as Plissken If the remakers of EFNY had any brain, they would cast Matt Damon as Plissken, and get Greengrass to direct. Now, that's a remake I would pay to see !

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 2:57 a.m. CST

    Because Butler = Bad acting

    by stamper

    If Wiseman get wiser, he would make sure Butler is dropped right away. Delete those Desert Storm references from the script. Make it Escape from Leningrad, an alternate reality. Get Wing Rhames as the Duke of New York, or Wesley Snipes. Quit the CGI massacre of the imnates, who cares, we wanna see suspense and subversion. Kate Beckinsale as Maggie is sure to be annouced next thought. With Plissken screaming "THIS IS THE USA !".

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 5:41 a.m. CST


    by TheNorthlander

    what's the point of critizising things I like?

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 9:49 a.m. CST

    die hard 4 only one problem????

    by compn

    fuck people who say die hard 4 only had one problem. hacker bad guy was horrible! the entire premise of a hacker badguy is terrible. pg-13 is another problem. also did anyone remember the music? die hard 3 had some bad ass 'jonnie comes marching home' score. ALSO THERE WERE NO FUCKING BOMBS! die hard 1 has the whole roof wired to blow, plus improvised bombs by mcclain. die hard 2 has a church bomb and grenades. die hard 3 is full of bombs. there were NONE in dh4. **************** look at UNDER SEIGE, which is basically a group of guys that take over a battleship and 'hack' the nukes out of it (social engineering with gary busey). damn even dh2 had a hacker badguy (they hacked the airport computers) but they didnt waste time talking about computer shit, they just type-type-type and back to gunfire and grenades.---------------just to keep on thread, no john carpenter movie ever needs to be remaked. gears of war i dunno but len wiseman sucks and underworld is some recycled garbage.------ bring on ESCAPE FROM EARTH with KURT RUSSEL. i hope he escapes to mars and finds it overrun with mars ghosts.....

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 10:13 a.m. CST

    the fog remake

    by compn

    did anyone see it? this is what needs to be remembered when they talk about HALLOWEEN and ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK remakes. btw where is my THE THING tv mini-series? or my snake plissken anime (the company went tits up?). carpenter cant get a break and masters of horror was a big piece of shit.

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Long kiss gnight = actress + director sounds familiar ?

    by stamper

    One actress shags a movie director hoping her career will boost up... now, where did I head that one recently Mr Wiseman ?

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 1:44 p.m. CST


    by Kree42

    Sorry did not know I was just talking as it where

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Worthy or entering the Die Hard......franchise??? WTF?

    by Spandau Belly

    You guys don't honestly think there's a standard for Die Hard sequels, do you? None of the sequels have been entertaining even on the lowered level of sequel expectations. I'm not sure which one is worse, DH2 for being steadily mediocre and consistantly unoriginal or DH3 for being wildly uneven alternating between great set-ups and terrible pay-offs and WINNER OF THE WORST ENDING TO AN ACTION FILM EVER AWARD (tm). I haven't seen DH4 but it couldn't be worse than those other two sequels.

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 3:03 p.m. CST

    soylent mean

    by compn

    i never saw the remake, i heard it was terrible. i cant give my money to people who would remake movies poorly.

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 3:04 p.m. CST

    DH3 was awesome compared to Live Free

    by SpencerTrilby

    In fact, DH2 was also brilliant compared to it. <p> But I don't knw why I'm comparing these, you can't put a movie up against one from another series. Live Free or MI-4 was a complete piece of shit which reminded me more of Lethal Weapon 3 than Die Hard as we know it.

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 3:06 p.m. CST

    long kiss goodnight

    by compn

    was pretty good. i like geena davis, go see QUICK CHANGE , need more randy quaid movies too.

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 3:07 p.m. CST


    by compn

    imdb says i voted it 4/10 , maybe i made a mistake on that earlier comment.

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 4:11 p.m. CST

    How about a Escape from Transformers.

    by Violator90

    Have Bay work on this and we can have an extremely fucked up movie. Hell, Bay killed one movie why not another? Micheal Bay's ESCAPE FROM TRANSFORMERS. I can hear Snake utter some stupid shit like, "Wasuuuuup Prime!" And Prime replys "My bad." as he squashes Snake by accident.

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Where's Geena now ?

    by stamper

    So she got that oscar for Scott's chicks flick, it doesn't mean she wasn't a plastic surgery casualty, and shag crazy to boot. Plus Long kiss and that pirate flick sucked. Really big.

  • Aug. 5, 2007, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Anyone who does'nt like The L K GN is a FAG!

    by glodene

    Now hows that for justifiable immaturity?

  • Aug. 6, 2007, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Memories-Of-Murder, please spare us your feigned

    by glodene

    pseaudo-intellectual outrage, it's annoying. You're nothing more than a lonely bitter masturbator who's obviously going through a major homosexual panic, thus visiting AICN looking for a little companionship, but due to your social ineptness, you mask your affections with needless hostilities...But lucky for you, i'm sypathetic to your malady...So after a little research, i discovered a site that you can visit, where you can frollic your like-minded ilk: PICKLESMOKERS.COM. Btw, there's no need to thank me, i'm here to help.

  • Aug. 6, 2007, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Memories-Of-Murder, please spare us your feigned

    by glodene

    pseaudo-intellectual outrage, it's annoying. You're nothing more than a lonely bitter masturbator who's obviously going through a major homosexual panic, thus visiting AICN looking for a little companionship, but due to your social ineptness, you mask your affections with needless hostilities...But lucky for you, i'm sypathetic to your malady...So after a little research, i discovered a site that you can visit, where you can frollic among your like-minded ilk: PICKLESMOKERS.COM. Btw, there's no need to thank me, i'm here to help.