July 30, 2007, 4:40 a.m. CST
to only having seen Seventh Seal, which is an amazing film. Keep meaning to pick others up on DVD.
July 30, 2007, 4:40 a.m. CST
hopefully i'm at the top. seriously though. RIP. never seen any of his films but i keep meaning too.
July 30, 2007, 4:41 a.m. CST
Wonderful film maker.
July 30, 2007, 4:44 a.m. CST
Hour of the Wolf, that was a good horror movie.
July 30, 2007, 4:44 a.m. CST
That's all there is to say.
July 30, 2007, 4:54 a.m. CST
Death cant be beaten at chess but he can be beaten at Twister...and probably Connect Four too.
July 30, 2007, 4:56 a.m. CST
...he was truly the lightsaber of filmmakers. Damn, me and a guy was just talking about him yesterday at work.
July 30, 2007, 4:57 a.m. CST
A True genius parts from our realm today - having seen almost all of his works at one point or another, it can't be doubted that Bergman constituted a truly unique and substantial contribution to the fields he touched. Rest in peace, Mr. Bergman....
July 30, 2007, 5:16 a.m. CST
modern cinema has lost its master.
July 30, 2007, 5:25 a.m. CST
But I do now, thanks to Moriaty's fantastic tribute and what a great selection of Youtube clips he's chosen (the Vampire comedy sketch is frign HILARIOUS) but the first youtube clip is downright freaky and moody and up there with the best of the 50s twilight zone! I really have to check his movies out - I'll start with Seven Seal. RIP Ignar Bergman - sorry for my complete ignorance of your work until now on your departure from this world.
July 30, 2007, 5:26 a.m. CST
Along with Kurosawa and Kubrick, Bergman's films introduced me to film art. A giant, I shall be going to the cinema re-release of The Seventh Seal this week to see his artistry on the the big screen. Fanny and Alexander is definitely one of the top 10 films ever made ad Seventh Seal and Wild Strawberries would probably have to be in there too. Great post Moriarty. The film world is a lesser place today...
July 30, 2007, 5:28 a.m. CST
What a life . An artist whose vision was matched only by his lack of compromise. Bergman made his own genre and achieved more than some filmakers could even comprehend. My own personal favourite is "Wild Strawberries" I am the same age as Bergman was when he made that but have none of the vision of him as an artist. He lived a good life, did great work and made love to some beautiful women. By his own admission he wasn't much of a father but who is. I am going to go and rent " Seventh Seal" and prepare as I suck at chess. Hope Ingrid was waiting.
July 30, 2007, 5:35 a.m. CST
This is heartbreaking news, but damn if I can't resist thinking about that film. Absolutely no disrespect intended.
July 30, 2007, 5:43 a.m. CST
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Just well gutted about this. I knew it was coming. Just still shocked and downed about this news. I know not to expect more films from him being the age he was at, but now that he's just not here with us anymore and that he's gone too... well it's just gutting. There was me trying to get to see more of his movies before his death so I wouldn't be seeing him 'cos of some tribute bandwagon. Damn, I wish I saw more in that time, not just a handful. Damn, just sad that he's gone and no longer here with us anymore.
July 30, 2007, 5:46 a.m. CST
Just wanted to let everyone know that the New Beverly cinema has THE VIRGIN SPRING and WILD STRAWBERRIES playing as a double feature this Wednesday and Thursday. This wasn't a "memorial service" booking either, these films had been booked for months, well before the passings of either Mr. Bergman or Mr. Torgan. I can't do much to show how much these two men have, in their own way, added to my life and my love of movies, but I'm going to show up and buy a ticket and enjoy these two wonderful films in one of the best theaters in Los Angeles. I like to think that would mean something to them. I know it will mean a great deal to me.
July 30, 2007, 6:04 a.m. CST
by Evil Hobbit
Great legacy<br> <br> Great tribute
July 30, 2007, 6:10 a.m. CST
Is certainly one of the finest films ever. A true genius.
July 30, 2007, 6:11 a.m. CST
He has left behind a body of work unmatched in the history of cinema. And now the great silence.
July 30, 2007, 6:22 a.m. CST
This is sad news indeed. Bergman and Robert Bresson were arguably the two greatest film-makers who ever lived. There are few directors today who even come close (maybe Bela Tarr). If you've never seen any Bergman, I recommend his "it really isn't a trilogy, honest" trilogy Through a Glass Darkly, Winter Light and The Silence. Or my personal favourite, Persona. What always surprises me about his films is how modern they are. They look classical but are so far ahead of their time, cinema is still running to catch up.<p>Rest in peace, sir.
July 30, 2007, 6:32 a.m. CST
by Andy Warhol Jr
I've seen four of his films (including "Strawberry fields" and "Persona") and find his style repetitive.
July 30, 2007, 6:34 a.m. CST
The Silence and Persona, I didn't get into Wild Strawberries that much. Certainly, he was a great European film maker.
July 30, 2007, 6:36 a.m. CST
It was as a very young man I was first exposed to the world of Ingmar Bergman. It was a late night cinema on a local TV station that decided to air Wild Strawberries. Being only nine years old, it was a film that I could hardly understand, and I came to conclude that Ingmar Bergman was weird and I could never watch his films. A few years later, Wild Strawberries appeared again on the same channel, this time to correspond with the release of Fanny and Alexander. And as I was now a little older, I began to understand some of it. But it would be even later, as a college student, that I would finally be fully exposed to Bergman’s world, and quickly develop a understanding, respect, and love for all it encompassed.<br> <br> Oddly enough, it started again with Wild Strawberries, and I finally found that not all movies had to be spelled out to me. There was room for films as art. Films that leave a certain amount of the concept and meaning to be left to the imagination of the viewer to complete. And with it, room for others opinions to be different, leaving discussions, or in my case, a different film to be seen upon different viewings. He brought a vision to cinema that was unique and vastly imitated. But his vision was his own, and because of his vision and methods, he belonged to a exclusive fraternity that boasted the likes of Kurosawa and Fellini.<br> <br> Now as a fan of cinema for years, I have developed a love for the films and work of Bergman. He was, like the aforementioned directors, one of the most innovative eyes to the world of film. He saw film in a way that most could not. He not only let the actors bring their own to the film, but he found a way to encapsulate it with a style that still would bring the viewer into something unseen, something fresh. Bergman was a visual genius, and in working with Sven Nykvist, would allow for a imagery that would be unmatched unless brought forth by one who had collaborated with them in the past.<br> <br> Now that voice is silent. The last of the international visualists. Now we enter an era without those that made films for films sake. Now we enter commerce. Now we see films as product, and not as art. Ingmar Bergman’s voice was self silenced by his decision years ago to commit only to stage and television. But there was still his influence on the cinema stage. And he still had the power to bring others to make films for the sake of providing a visual poem. Much of that will now fall to the wayside. The only hope we have will come from those that decide to use the new mediums of the internet and digital distribution. Those formats that can come cheap to the potential new generation of visual artist.<br> <br> Goodnight and farewell, Mr. Bergman. It was a joy having you here among us. You showed us a world of the visual intellect. You gave us a new language that transcended the need for the spoken word and the written letter. You brought the globe a little closer together. And you left us a string of pieces that we should cherish for many generations to come. Tonight I will find myself watching one of your 17 films on Criterion DVD. And once again, I will see something new. And for that, I thank you yet again.....And thus, daylight seems a bit dimmer today. - - - George, The 7th Chicken.
July 30, 2007, 6:40 a.m. CST
July 30, 2007, 6:51 a.m. CST
Tough call. Fanny and Alexander, The Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries. I even have a soft spot for Hour of the Wolf.
July 30, 2007, 6:56 a.m. CST
...and one of my favourite films: Persona. It operates unlike any other film I've seen. That opening montage puts the shits up you for the next 80 minutes, during which time Bergman conducts a psychological exploration with Liv Ullmann and Bibi Andersson that remains unparalleled in cinema. At the same time, so much of the work must be done by the audience. It's creepy, it's tense (the broken glass...) and it's completely engrossing.<p>My other favourite of Bergman's is Winter Light. Maybe because I was brought up going to a church with dwindling numbers, and filled with the same doubts Bergman seems to be working out here. Like many of his films, it's like an ancient story blank enough for you to contribute to its meaning. And Gunnar Bjornstrand is extraordinary.
July 30, 2007, 6:59 a.m. CST
July 30, 2007, 7:06 a.m. CST
That's how you see legends ehh. Thanks for the greatness, they continue to inspire me. I'm sure you would be proud where film has come to, the evolution to this great site of Aint It Cool news. Ingmar Bergman Denis Gotta Eat.
July 30, 2007, 7:07 a.m. CST
This year's little miss awesome filmmaker.
July 30, 2007, 7:10 a.m. CST
in a row, an experience matched only by watching Kurosawa's films together. Two great masters from an age long past. Almost made me want to move to Sweden.
July 30, 2007, 7:10 a.m. CST
It's "Cries and Whispers" for me. The script alone is the greatest in the history of cinema. That stunning opening montage of the mansion, the dread, the fear, the love and pain. And that devastating ending. Unparalleled. I also really have a weakness for Scenes From A Marriage (The TV miniseries more than the film version), nobody since has ever quite so perfectly captured the dynamic of a relationship. Truly incredible.
July 30, 2007, 7:14 a.m. CST
A must see animated tribute to Bergman and Apple Pie - http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/art/
July 30, 2007, 7:14 a.m. CST
I'll be forever haunted by the dream sequence with the two dead kids in the attic in the long version of "Fanny and Alexander". They showed it on tv as the major christmas tv serial in scandinavia in the early 80s. I was same age as Alexander in the movie. That episode was so all round devastating that I couldn't sleep afterwards. The next day my (usually unshakable) dad told me he hadn't been able to sleep either.
July 30, 2007, 7:25 a.m. CST
and it stayed with me. It's utterly iconic.
July 30, 2007, 7:33 a.m. CST
But he'll still be missed.
July 30, 2007, 7:47 a.m. CST
Was definitely Wild Strawberries, with Persona coming in a close second. As many films as he did, he may have even been a greater stage director. BTW, there is one last great living director from the WW2 generation still alive: Michelangelo Antonioni, who is pushing 95 but who directed a segment for a film just a few years ago.
July 30, 2007, 7:54 a.m. CST
I suppose technically I should include Herzog as a film God. But he's just so utterly insane and unpredictable, I don't know what to classify him as.
July 30, 2007, 7:58 a.m. CST
Watched The Seventh Seal out of curiosity on IFC, and was blown away by it. At least he lived a long time though. I'm sure he's in heaven playing chess with the man himself right now.
July 30, 2007, 7:59 a.m. CST
July 30, 2007, 8:08 a.m. CST
If he ended up in heaven. Though he somewhat made his peace with the notion of others believeing, he himself remained greatly ambivelent about the existence of a higher power.
July 30, 2007, 8:10 a.m. CST
My favorite movie. Cinema lost a king.
July 30, 2007, 8:10 a.m. CST
I've only seen three of his films: The Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries, and The Virgin Spring, but each one was fantastic. It's amazing to watch a forty year old film and realize that it hits you harder than anything they're releasing today. Wild Strawberries itself was filled with such joy about life and I was very lucky to see it on a big screen at a local art museum. The guy was amazing.
July 30, 2007, 8:19 a.m. CST
by Mosquito March
...is the comment about the AICN chatroom full of people who had never seen a Bergman film. What self-respecting movie geek hasn't at least seen THE SEVENTH SEAL? It's shameful.
July 30, 2007, 8:29 a.m. CST
The Last House on the Left
July 30, 2007, 8:35 a.m. CST
My only hope is that there is someone else in that great country who is capable of creating something even remotely as poignant and not just make inane thrillers all the time.
July 30, 2007, 8:37 a.m. CST
by Marv Spaulding
Bergman was a film God, The Seventh Seal was one of those movies that had a huge impact on me the first time I saw it. I've only seen about 3 or 4 of his films, so I'm by no means an expert, but he will certainly be missed.
July 30, 2007, 8:38 a.m. CST
I finally saw this a few weeks ago. So far its the only Bergman film I have seen but I cant wait to see Fanny and Alexander. What a loss.
July 30, 2007, 8:56 a.m. CST
While strict master death may bid him to dance he is not dead. Along with Twain, Kubrick, Mozart, Wright and many others the mere act of not breathing will not take him from us.
July 30, 2007, 9 a.m. CST
I still remember writing a paper on this one in one of my film classes many years ago. It's a fascinating film. Rest in Peace, Ingmar. Thanks for leaving behind such a wonderful legacy.
July 30, 2007, 9:02 a.m. CST
I'm as geeked out as the next guy on here, but I honestly can't think of another film about the subjects of pain, hopelessness, and death that actually affects my psyche and emotional core like that film does. There are quite a few films that are disturbing but nothing before or since packs as heavy a wallop as that great film. Goodbye Mr. Bergman and thank you...I think.
July 30, 2007, 9:36 a.m. CST
IMHO the most important contribution of Bergman's was his version of Mozart's MAgic flute. Truly revolutionizing the nature of opera film with his merging of film and stage and turning the camera on the audience.
July 30, 2007, 9:37 a.m. CST
your legacy lives for ever.
July 30, 2007, 9:38 a.m. CST
July 30, 2007, 9:42 a.m. CST
Maybe it's because that's the first one I watched, but I thought it was beyond perfect. After that it's The Virgin Spring. I need to catch up on the ones I haven't seen. It's weird but when I first heard this news this morning my thoughts went immediately to Woody Allen. He must be awfully sad today.
July 30, 2007, 9:51 a.m. CST
The last month has been fucking horrible for great international directors. Ousmane Sembene from Senegal and Edward Yang from Taiwan died before this (I'm not being pretentious here, check them out) but this is massive. What kills me is that he'd returned to filmmaking, rather than just his stagework, in the last few years and the stuff he was doing - there was virtually no dropoff in quality or interest in his work. My picks? Wild Strawberries, Cries and Whispers, Fanny and Alexander... no real surprises there. Though hell, even the frigging soap commercials he did before he came to films are vivid and imaginative. It's an amazing body of work and even though it will exist for centuries to come, we're a lot poorer for no longer having the man himself around.
July 30, 2007, 9:54 a.m. CST
You beat me to the punch, so I'll just concur with everything you said pertaining to Cries and Whispers. It is the most emotionally crippling film I have EVER seen. It's in my top 5 of all time. It's quite possible that my first viewing of the film served as a defining moment in my life. In what context that definition serves in my life is what brings me back to the film for subsequent viewings. I hear people complain all of the time about a movie with so much sadness is "a total downer" or "a waste of time." I couldn't disagree more. What makes Cries and Whispers so amazing is that despite the fact that it rakes your heart across coals it doesn't come across as hopeless. I think a film like Cries and Whispers can teach a person empathy, something I think the world is in short supply of. Thank you, Mr. Bergman. Thank you so much! RIP.
July 30, 2007, 10:12 a.m. CST
Gosh - somehow I thought Saraband was the beginning of a little post-retirement resurgence. Wow. Along with everyone else in his life, I send my love to Liv Ullman Max Von Sydow, who helped make his work so beautiful.
July 30, 2007, 10:14 a.m. CST
Watching Swedish tv now, BIG news here.. I'm going to be watching a LOT of his movies in the next few days, the only upside of this sad news :-(
July 30, 2007, 10:19 a.m. CST
A tragic loss.
July 30, 2007, 10:31 a.m. CST
Personally, my favorites are, in order, (1) FANNY AND ALEXANDER (TV Version is essential); (2) SMILES FROM A SUMMER NIGHT (as perfect a thinking comedy as has ever been created); (3) SCENES FROM A MARRIAGE (probably best appreciated after one has been in a marriage; one may also want to start with the film version and then go back to the 10-hour TV mini-series); (4) THE SEVENTH SEAL ('nuff said); (5) AUTUMN SONATA (a devastating portrait of the narcissistic mother as child-eating monster); (6) CRIES AND WHISPERS (hair-raising portraits of suppressed insanity); (7, 8, 9) PERSONA, THE SILENCE, WILD STRAWBERRIES (a better "trilogy" of films, for me; (10) THE VIRGIN SPRING (very hard to watch, but the scene where Sydow holds his daughter's dress in silent recognition, is perhaps among the most powerful ever shot). And now a lifetime spent in brilliant, rueful meditation on the nature of existence has ended. May the adventure continue. Fortunately for those of us still among the living, nearly all of this master's work is available on high-quality DVD. So there's no excuse, kids, in not challenging yourself with it. I'm still working my way through them, myself.
July 30, 2007, 10:40 a.m. CST
most definitely one of my all time favorite films by ANY director. brilliant meditation on mortality and the impermanence of time.
July 30, 2007, 11:01 a.m. CST
I guess this pretty much kills any chances of a Strange Brew sequel.
July 30, 2007, 11:03 a.m. CST
My personal favorite followed by The Virgin Spring and Wild Strawberries. Damn shame to lose such a great filmmaker. I'll admit, I have yet to see Saraband. But to those film fanatics who have only seen one or none of his films, c'mon guys/gals, get on this. You owe it to yourself as a film enthusist to see his films. They're readily available to purchase or rent. The man was a fucking master and deserved every last word of praise he garnered.
July 30, 2007, 11:13 a.m. CST
if TCM (Turner Classic Movies) didn't roll out their stash of his films in the next few days. Everyone should keep an eye out for that. If not there's always the library for those needing to catch up.
July 30, 2007, 11:25 a.m. CST
by Wee Willie
You should see a wider variety of his films. His 'style' was anything but repetetive.
July 30, 2007, 11:29 a.m. CST
by Wee Willie
Me, at 15 1/2, goes to a local rep cinema to see 'Persona". During the part where Bibi Andersson describes seducing two boys on the beach, I sport wood. A Lady sitting two seats over moves to the seat next to mine and gives me a hand job. Sure, it was illegal, I guess... But to me, it was the greatest moment of my teenage years. To me, Persona is the greatest movie in the history of film. True story.
July 30, 2007, 11:38 a.m. CST
by Larry of Arabia
you should be banned from the chatroom until you do.
July 30, 2007, 11:47 a.m. CST
Anybody here seen "Shame"? It's different from Bergman's other 60s films because rather than being another introspective chamber drama, it's a more conventionally structured and plotted film about a couple living in close proximity to an unnamed war. I'm familiar with about a dozen Bergman films, and I'd rank "Shame" near the top. If you haven't seen this one, you need to.
July 30, 2007, 11:50 a.m. CST
As it will for us all. Rest in peace, Mr. Bergman, thank you for sharing your brilliance with us.
July 30, 2007, 11:51 a.m. CST
by Dwide Shrewd
Many directors working today aren't worthy to wipe Ingmar Bergman's ass. That said, he wasn't even my favorite Bergman. That distinction belongs to Ingrid. Swedish hotness is without an equal.
July 30, 2007, 11:55 a.m. CST
Another master is gone.
July 30, 2007, 12:01 p.m. CST
After the initial shock and tears, it is wonderful to come here to see such respect and reverence for one of the greatest artists of our century. This man was the truth. Like many have mentioned, he shall remain immortal through his vast body of work, inspiring us all; My God, what he has given us...
July 30, 2007, 12:09 p.m. CST
that story deserves an entire essay, not just an anecdote.
July 30, 2007, 12:09 p.m. CST
Everybody knows "The Seventh Seal" imagery (Death playing chess with the knight), but when I watched the movie my freshman year in college, I found it very involving. When I saw "Wild Strawberries" a few weeks later, it became one of my all-time favorite films. Never mind that I hadn't even lived a full life like the main character, full of regrets and what ifs. I still was captivated by its message. I've seen some of his other films (Through a Glass Darkly, Winter Light, Silence, Cries and Whispers, Scenes from a Marriage), but I now need to dive in and explore the rest of his work. THANK YOU CRITERION COLLECTION, for making this filmmaker's work available to new generations of interested viewers.
July 30, 2007, 12:15 p.m. CST
I think I'll watch my copy of his beautiful film "Winter Light" tonight. And please, if you haven't seen at least one Bergman film, you're not a film buff. It is essential to at the very least see "The Seventh Seal".
July 30, 2007, 12:18 p.m. CST
I just saw Shame for the first time a few weeks ago, it's gripping, eerie and magnificent.
July 30, 2007, 12:43 p.m. CST
Jag känna djupsinnig tacksam till min liv , vilken gir jag så mycket.
July 30, 2007, 1:04 p.m. CST
No other single word changed my life so much as ingeting, the only word Bibi Andersson says in Persona. It floored me for days. Thanks for nothing Igmar
July 30, 2007, 1:10 p.m. CST
Well, fuck, it was Liv Ullmann who said it. It still blew my brains out in 1968.
July 30, 2007, 1:18 p.m. CST
Thanks Moriarty for that tribute. I've seen about 90% of Bergman's films and Through a Glass Darkly is still my fav - the story about a woman slowly going insane. Beautiful and sad. He will be missed. Gonna watch Hour of the Wolf tonight - definitely a Lynch precursor. Love it.
July 30, 2007, 1:21 p.m. CST
This is such sad news...I love his works, especially The Seventh Seal. R.I.P., man.
July 30, 2007, 1:44 p.m. CST
It's amazing considering that Bergman was still kind of a young man at the time how well he could make a movie about an old man at the end of his life.
July 30, 2007, 1:46 p.m. CST
It's amazing considering that Bergman was still kind of a young man at the time how well he could make a movie about an old man at the end of his life.
July 30, 2007, 2 p.m. CST
Tell me I'm not the only one who's seen this. No one is mentioning it and it's my favorite Bergman flick.
July 30, 2007, 2:24 p.m. CST
As mentioned above, the New Beverly theater is showing a double-feature of two of Bergman's finest films -- WILD STRAWBERRIES and THE VIRGIN SPRING -- on Wednesday and Thursday. As great as it is that Bergman is so well-represented on DVD (nearly all of his major works are available in good editions), seeing Bergman on the big screen is an enormous treat. Here's hoping we'll be seeing many retrospectives on the event of his passing.
July 30, 2007, 2:31 p.m. CST
GMAFB, I'm totally with you. I've only seen THE MAGICIAN once but I loved it. That, sadly, is one of the great Bergmans that ISN'T on DVD. Someday soon perhaps? I believe the old laserdisc was from Criterion, so maybe they'll be able to get on this. As for Andy Warhol Jr.'s comment about having seen 4 Bergman films and claiming his style is repetitive... I don't see how anyone can claim that PERSONA and WILD STRAWBERRIES have anything like a similar style. Even SEVENTH SEAL and WILD STRAWBERRIES, which were both made in 1957, are strikingly different works. And if you check out any of his post-PERSONA stuff, you'll find that his work has many different periods. CRIES AND WHISPERS, SCENES FROM A MARRIAGE and FANNY AND ALEXANDER would all be good ones to check out if you want a sense of the breadth of his output.
July 30, 2007, 2:37 p.m. CST
Don't deny it.
July 30, 2007, 3:12 p.m. CST
by Deadwood Dan
Okay, fine, I won't harp on anyone not seeing any Bergman, since I hadn't seen any until earlier this year. The Seventh Seal and Wild Strawberries were pretty rad. Truly sad to see a master pass.
July 30, 2007, 3:16 p.m. CST
It was Liv Ullmann as Elisabeth Vogler, the mute actress, who says "Nothing... nothing!" in Persona.
July 30, 2007, 3:22 p.m. CST
"DON'T!" Which I actually found the more profound line. An ultimate affirmation of the will to live, despite everything that is horrible and disgusting about existing.
July 30, 2007, 3:27 p.m. CST
by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies
But where is the obit for Mike Reid?
July 30, 2007, 3:28 p.m. CST
nice piece, moriarty. i discovered Bergman when i was in high school in Portland. a downtown repertory cinema near the university showed terrific double features of movie greats. on several rainy Saturday afternoons i ducked into the Fifth Avenue Theatre and saw Bergman and Von Sydow and Bibi and Liv and Death. it was wonderful. video and DVD are nice, but there is NOTHING like experiencing these films in the dark, in a theatre, no distractions. just me and Ingmar (and Hitchcock and Hawks and Ford...)
July 30, 2007, 3:34 p.m. CST
by C Legion
And left a huge mark on Cinema that will forever be there, so I can't feel too sad. RIP.
July 30, 2007, 3:35 p.m. CST
I called up my dad to tell him the news, and I was very upset. What he told me, however, helped me to feel better, and should be noted: Bergman led an amazing life, and knowing him, he was ready to accept death. We love you Mr. Bergman, thank you for sharing. May you rest in peace.
July 30, 2007, 3:38 p.m. CST
It always amazes me reading the obituaries on this site. Always perfunctory- never fitting, never moving. But then, they are never really about their subject, more a sort of disguised boast by one of the AICN staffers to prove how cine-literate they are: “When I posted this news in our chat room a few moments ago, everyone in the room copped to having never seen any of the remarkable films created by the incomparable Ingmar Bergman. I’m saddened by that, but not shocked.” Yeah, and you know the reason why no-one in your chat room knew who he was? Well, because the fucking hack plebs that run this piece of shite site are far more interested in fulfilling their masturbatory thirteen year old superhero fantasies, and talking up (never-were there) schlock meisters like Eli Roth than engaging in any sort of debate about narrative cinema. Jesus, the hypocrisy of you lot is incredible. Please… don’t darken the memory of one of the true greats of cinema with your cack handed obituary. Face facts: your “understanding and appreciation of the art form” is limited to SpiderMan. Now get back to promoting whatever the fuck superhero movie it was that you pretended to be when you were 12. Pathetic.
July 30, 2007, 3:50 p.m. CST
by white owl
ever. It is most plain and simple one man's struggle to find faith and God within himself. I was up late one night and saw it on TCM and it just floored me. The cinematography is just legendary, and I love how Anotnius can not find good within himself and yet delays the game of chess with death to reach for something he thinks isn't there. The painting of the Jester when Anotnius and his squire are at the church is a tattoo I have. A great quote: Is it so terribly inconceivable to comprehend God with one's senses? Why does he hide in a cloud of half-promises and unseen miracles? How can we believe in the faithful when we lack faith? What will happen to us who want to believe, but can not? What about those who neither want to nor can believe? Why can't I kill God in me? Why does He live on in me in a humiliating way - despite my wanting to evict Him from my heart? Why is He, despite all, a mocking reality I can't be rid of? RIP Bergman
July 30, 2007, 4:04 p.m. CST
My favorite quote (that comes to mind): "Jons, between you and me, isn't life a dirty mess?" "Yes, but don't think of that now."
July 30, 2007, 4:06 p.m. CST
The beach sex confession scene was intense. RIP Ingmar
July 30, 2007, 4:12 p.m. CST
I am suprised nobody has mentioned this film. This theme of two women's psychology was later later expanded in Persona.
July 30, 2007, 4:16 p.m. CST
Wow, that post was incredibly disrespectful. Whether or not the people who run the site are as intelligent, arrogant, or cruel as you are, an obituary is an obituary. It's not really our place to assume anything about Moriarty's motivations.
July 30, 2007, 4:21 p.m. CST
Almost anytime someone makes fun of an art film, they are unwittingly making fun of Bergman. His images and ideas have become part of the consciousness of people who have never even heard of him. A brilliant artist is now finding out the answers to all of the questions posed by his films.
July 30, 2007, 4:29 p.m. CST
I don't like all his films, but he still has a canon of stunning classics. Winter Light is my favorite, though Fanny and Alexander is a close second. He had some kind of quiet elegance you don't see enough of in American cinema.
July 30, 2007, 4:34 p.m. CST
thats another great name in european cinema.
July 30, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST
Disrespectful? How so? There were no such sacred cows in Bergman's philosophy. If I need a reminder of his greatness (I don't, I know) then I'll watch his work. I certainly do not need instructions in how to "adopt the grieving position" by a half-wit like you.
July 30, 2007, 4:49 p.m. CST
Funny, I thought Moriarty's post came across as reverential and honest. Each to their own I guess. This isn't the time or place for an argument though.
July 30, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST
RIP to the master. He is already missed.
July 30, 2007, 5 p.m. CST
For all the doom and gloom in his pictures I always found Bergman to be almost childlike in interviews, warm, witty and full of mischief. "The tragedy of old age is not that one is old but that one is young."
July 30, 2007, 5:02 p.m. CST
Fellini, Kurosawa, Bergman, Hitchcock...all gone. The second Criterion edition DVD that I got was the Seventh Seal (Third Man was the first). RIP. Fear death no more, Mr. Bergman.
July 30, 2007, 5:11 p.m. CST
by Mike Connor
AICN never said a word about Saraband, so it does seem a little disingenuous to only praise the man when he's dead. Nice memorial though, by Moriarty. I'll certainly take the opportunity to celebrate Bergman's life by watching some of the films I haven't seen yet. The ones I've watched all have a wonderful humanity to them. They they have this intense focus on love, hate, jealousy, disappointment, all the things that make us human and flawed and sympathetic. Powerful art. Admirable.
July 30, 2007, 5:23 p.m. CST
This cracks me up everytime. RIP Mr. Bergman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53YBN8X_sZU
July 30, 2007, 6 p.m. CST
He was truly amazing.I'll miss you!
July 30, 2007, 6:02 p.m. CST
WILD STRAWBERRIES and SEVENTH SEAL actually brought me a better understanding of life, love and death. That's hard to say about just about any other movie. Just a beautiful man with a vast heart, who'd seen the light and the darkness and wanted us to stare a little bit deeper into both. A sad goodbye, Mr. Bergman.
July 30, 2007, 6:47 p.m. CST
changed the way i saw movies and life. great to see so many people giving him respect here. nicely done, drew.
July 30, 2007, 6:57 p.m. CST
I don't think you understood my post. I don't care if you are correct or not. I don't care if Moriarty is full of shit or not. Because what matters is that if he is not full of shit, and he wrote an obituary that he felt was appropriate, and was important to him, you just pissed on it. I mean, yeah, AICN probably doesn't follow as much obscure film news as it should. But what I'm saying is that you might as well stop coming to the site if you have such contempt for its creators and the people who hang out on the talk-back. Because I don't exactly enjoy being called a "half-wit," or enjoy having to read someone tear down Moriarty's obituary, which I sensed as being very sincere. What's disrespectful has nothing to do with "adopting the grieving position," but that you are invited to commune on this website and in return you shit on the people who run it, while they try to grieve.
July 30, 2007, 7:14 p.m. CST
by Jimmy Jazz
That first one with the old guy having a nightmare looks particularly interesting. I'm sorry to say I have only seen Persona in a class and The Virgin Spring because of Wes Craven connection.
July 30, 2007, 7:23 p.m. CST
His artistry is undeniable. I've only seen The Seventh Seal and The Virgin Spring, but have roughly a half dozen others here in the apartment waiting to be watched. It always feels personal when a great director passes. I just saw that Saraband will air on cable, but didn't Tivo it because I want to watch Scenes From A Marriage first. Any true cinefile owes it to themselves to watch his work. His stark seriousness can be easily mocked, especially in this day and age, but his sincerity cannot. As long as there is cinema he will rightly have admirers. Rest in peace.
July 30, 2007, 7:27 p.m. CST
by Mike Connor
The first is "Wild Strawberries" (Smultronstället), and the second is "Cries and Whispers" (Viskningar och rop).
July 30, 2007, 7:48 p.m. CST
by The Dum Guy
He won't be remembered for not living a long time, but the interview he gave for the movie was kind of sad. Like, when he said he couldn't really remember any of his children's births, but he could vaguely guess in between which films it happennd if he was told the date.<br><br>I think I'll put Winter Light in the top of my Netflix list.
July 30, 2007, 8:02 p.m. CST
It´s really not up to par considering his eariler works. I watched it on it´s initial run on swedish television and was hugely dissapointed. If you are new to Bergman it´s better to seek out Fanny and Alexander, Virgin spring or Wild strawberries. Those movies will give you a better view of his scope as a filmmaker.
July 30, 2007, 8:16 p.m. CST
FACT: One of the Fangoria drones acknowledged Bergman's movies only because "Bergman had something to do with Wes Craven creating LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT." No, I'm not kidding. When I alluded to THE VIRGIN SPRING, his reaction was a succinct "Never heard of it." No, I'm not kidding. Hell, even U.S. icons are forgotten: anyone under 30, or addicted to torture porn, is clueless regarding Vincent Price's legacy. One word of advice, Riccardogogo: please never mention Bergman and Eli Roth in the same talkback...or in the same universe.
July 30, 2007, 8:29 p.m. CST
I discovered his work at 11 years old by watching LAST ACTION HERO. I thought the movies I saw were boring, but now fifteen years later I'll have a great opportunity to re-discover them thanks to DVD, and "Seventh Seal" has already his place reserved in my DVD stash, close to fucking Spider-man. Got it Riccardo-cant-help-but-start-a-flame war-during-an-obit?
July 30, 2007, 8:32 p.m. CST
Wow! Its always sad when one of the truely great filmmakers passes on, but Ingmar Bergman has given us alot of excellant film to see and think about over the years. My first encounter with the Swedish master was in 1966 with his surrealistic masterwork PERSONA, starring Liv Ullman and Bibi Andersson, at Austin's old single screen Texas Theater (no longer in existance) on the Drag across from the University of Texas. I had never seen anything like it before. This was years before I entered Film School and my major at the time was Sociology. My date and I went expecting to be intellectually challanged, but our minds were blown. After that I hungered for more thought provoking cinema. Bergman had opened a door to not only his films, but the works of Fellini, Bunuel, De Sica, Godard, and Antonioni among others. I will never forget that enlightening evening. Thank you Ingmar for opening my eyes to a broader world. A world that lead eventually to enrolling in film school and forever changing my direction in life.
July 30, 2007, 8:36 p.m. CST
like I said I discovered it at the tender and naive age of 11, through Last action hero. And since then I didn't know Ian McKellen either, It took me years to understand why it was him and not Bengt Ekerot who played the part along Arnie^^ <p> Sorry for the shitty anecdote. At least I don't try to give shit to Mori, if you catch my drift...
July 30, 2007, 8:40 p.m. CST
I watched Persona in film school too in France, and it was at the same time incredibly boring and yet mind-blowing. Years later I can't totally hate the movie, it bored me to tears but had some magic atmosphere that led me to Fellini, but also "Le roi de coeur" from Philippe DeBroca or the earlier Von Trier flicks, before he lost it.
July 30, 2007, 8:51 p.m. CST
given his age but still shocking to realize he is gone. It's always strange when you lose a close relative and people you felt close to (through their work) in the same short time frame (just lost my aunt to cancer). One of my first watched foreign films (after 8 1/2) was a 16 mm print of The Seventh Seal. To look at the breath and depth of his filmography: Persona / The Virgin Spring / Wild Strawberries / Fanny and Alexander / Autumn Sonata. He will be sorely missed in international cinema but audiences the world over are grateful for his contribution. Godspeed, sir.
July 30, 2007, 9:02 p.m. CST
Fat chance that kiss-ass fluffballs like ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT will afford Bergman a tribute. I enjoyed Roger Corman's homage, MASQUE OF THE RED DEATH (the climactic line is a killer). And I'm very fond of the SCTV spoofs (sometimes on par with LOVE AND DEATH). Wonder how next year's Oscar ceremony will honor Bergman? They'll probably engage crackhead Lindsay Lohan to narrate some clips (sorry, but I'm elated that her movie bombed--I mean, it bombed big time).
July 30, 2007, 9:28 p.m. CST
its ignorance. Film is merely the medium they use to achieve "celebrity." If the same recognition and fame could be born of pie eating contests instead of movies, they would do that instead. Celebrity culture is a result of the popularity of the medium, but is irrelevant to the meium itself. There wil be an homage to Bergman at the Oscars next year, I guarantee, but do you think Charlie Sheen is thinking "We lost a great artist today"? Do you think Keanu Reeves ever heard of Bergman? Do you think Lindsay Lohan watches any films by the likes of Bergman, or cocteau, or Carne?Other then that, Hollywood will not acknowledge the passing of an artist any more then McDonald's honored the passing of Julia Child.
July 30, 2007, 9:51 p.m. CST
It's funny how Head Geek would mention Godard, who Bergman found a "fucking bore" (I believe I'm quoting him accurately.) However, the news of a great artist passing never comes easy. It's nice to see so many people who have been affected and influenced by his work, and hopefully many more people who have never seen his films will be inspired to do so. They truly are some of the finest cinematic works ever created, and his death should not be met with sadness, but with celebration. R.I.P. Ingmar.
July 30, 2007, 9:53 p.m. CST
July 30, 2007, 9:55 p.m. CST
by Paul T. Ryan
Wow. I'm almost speechless. He truly was one of the greats and one of the people who has defined world cinema. I'd also like to recommend Winter Light to any Bergman newcomers. Rest In Peace Mr Bergman.
July 30, 2007, 10:06 p.m. CST
I'm with you, pal. <p>PERSONA is #2 on my ALLTIME LIST.<p>#1?<p>MAN WITH THE MOVIE CAMERA.<P>Bergman = greatest Director ever.<p>easily.
July 30, 2007, 10:23 p.m. CST
You're 200% on the money. If Michael Bay had passed away, we'd be deluged with "the great maverick, the baronial boxoffice genius has died!" But Bergman? Black & white movies, subtitles, ambiguous confections (spiritual subtexts) that played only at art houses (zip demographic), no (Hollywood) stars. The verdict: "Who gives a fuck?" I'm tired of Hollywood and its hypocrisy and its "pod people" politics. jsprenks, thanks for the heartfelt words. But, without expanded visibility, how will Bergman "inspire" a new generation? Hell, not a single Bergman film qualified for the AFI's "Top 100" movies.
July 30, 2007, 10:48 p.m. CST
by Nate Champion
Yes, I know, you self-proclaimed "cinephiles"... spill your tears over a cappucino, cloud your sorrows in the plumes of a Nat Sherman, lamenting the loss of one of the "greats". But let us not lose track of perhaps the greatest tragedy of our -- maybe any -- time... the loss of a man who was not content touching the hears of those friendless pseudo-intellectuals stuck in their grandparents' art-house... but a man who insisted upon touching all of humanity with his brilliant, heartwarming performances in the Karate Kid series among many masterpieces... the Oscar-nominated, about to be sainted Noriyuki "Pat" Morita. If this yellow Swede was any kind of man he was surely whispering "wax off..." to himself as he was finally checkmated.
July 30, 2007, 11:31 p.m. CST
of the impending name change of the Washington Memorial, soon to be known as the Pat Morita/Miyagi memorial. Pat Morita.....wax off.
July 30, 2007, 11:34 p.m. CST
July 30, 2007, 11:53 p.m. CST
Goodbye Ingmar. And thank you for defining and changing the art. Looks like it's "Checkmate" for Death.
July 31, 2007, 12:56 a.m. CST
The AFI list specifies American films. That said, I agree with the sentiment that foreign films are, for the most part, overlooked in America. I get annoyed with people who won't go see something because it has subtitles. Chalk it up to the xenophobic/isolationism attitues that still unfortunately run rampant in our land. Plus laziness for not wanting to read. It's the same nimron mentality that thinks since they saw the fake Eiffel Tower in Vegas that there's no point in seeing the real one in Paris. Expand your horizons and watch a foreign film today, though I'm probably preaching to the converted in this particular talkback.
July 31, 2007, 2:37 a.m. CST
"I have always admired him and I wish I could be an equally good filmmaker as he is, but it will never happen. His love for the cinema almost gives me a guilty conscience."
July 31, 2007, 3:05 a.m. CST
Speilberg? You need to get out more.
July 31, 2007, 3:09 a.m. CST
...that so many AICNers apparently never have seen a Bergman film, especially when they claim to be true movie fans. In my mind, you don't have to like everything to be one, but one should at least have been exposed to or have a passing familiarity with the works of certain directors. Bergman was one of those directors. <p> When I was a kid in Austin in the 70s, my dad, who taught at UT, used to let me sit in on the Bergman films he used to show his students occasionally. While a lot of the subtext obviously soared above my youthful noggin at the time, I could still appreciate the power of some of the films, such as The Seventh Seal and Wild Strawberries (the first dream sequence gave me nightmares for some time). Subsequent viewings of his films over the years have been almost universally and increasingly rewarding since there seems to be something in almost every one which speaks to whichever stage in life you happen to be in at the time. Can’t really say that about too many other directors. <p> Currently I’m living in the city of Uppsala in Sweden, the town of Bergman’s birth and where he spent a lot of his youth. Every day on the way to work I pass by several locations where he shot some of the exteriors for Fanny & Alexander. I also have a friend who lives in the same apartment building Bergman’s grandmother used to live and where Bergman himself would spend holidays as a child. Not only that, but I regularly go to Slottsbiografen (The Castle Cinema) on the same street, an old art house movie theater in which Bergman spent countless hours falling in love with movies at a tender age. <p> Needless to say, all this stuff feels extra poignant today. <p> While I don’t like everything the man did (Saraband being particularly awful), there is no denying his importance to an entertainment and art form all of us here claim to love passionately. The film world has lost one of the true greats, but as long as companies like Criterion still exist, we can enjoy his work forever. <p> Må du vila I frid, Ingmar.
July 31, 2007, 4:17 a.m. CST
by Lost Prophet
July 31, 2007, 4:35 a.m. CST
What's going on?
July 31, 2007, 4:46 a.m. CST
this is a bad week for cinema indeed..
July 31, 2007, 5:03 a.m. CST
Antonioni really did die too. I saw the TB here, didn't believe it, and went looking on the news sites. It took about 10 minutes, but I found a posting at the NY Times that said it'd been posted 5 minutes before. It seems like a cruel joke for film lovers.
July 31, 2007, 5:09 a.m. CST
'Cos if so, Michael Bay and Tim Story can breathe a sigh of relief. I never 'got' Bergman's work, but you can appreciate the craft all the same. Perhaps he can play Death at chess now.
July 31, 2007, 5:16 a.m. CST
Bergman and Antonioni in the same week? Shit.
July 31, 2007, 5:20 a.m. CST
by evil dave letterman
I hope that Godard isn't next.
July 31, 2007, 5:26 a.m. CST
Costa-Gavras,Kenneth Anger and Goddard will be at an undisclosed location until the threat level is moved back to orange.
July 31, 2007, 6:42 a.m. CST
looks like we've lost Michelangelo Antonion as well. a bad day for cinema.
July 31, 2007, 7:05 a.m. CST
Same day as Bergman. What are the odds? RIP gentlemen.
July 31, 2007, 7:06 a.m. CST
Michelangelo Antonioni too ! Sad, but both Antonioni and Bergman had long lives. I just randomly watched L'Aventurra yesterday....... then today I heard this ! Shock !
July 31, 2007, 7:35 a.m. CST
by Sledge Hammer
...feel very little impact from such a true filmmaking icon's passing? It's because of the blockbuster effect. I mean think about it, when is the last time you saw Bergman's films at your local blockbuster, or carried by walmart, or played on free to air or even cable tv networks? Rarely, if ever. These greats are slowly fading into obscurity as new generations of so called film fans get little, if any easy exposure to such films of the past. "What? It's black and white, subtitled, *and* 'artsy'...fuck that" seems to be the all too popular public opinion on such films, so even those who do wish to experience such films have a harder and harder time these days being able to do so (thank god for the likes of Criterion, and the dvd format in general, that has saved many such films from all but disappearing into the mists of time). <p>So, never seen any Bergman, but consider yourself a film fan with a mind that's open to more than just simple 'entertainments', do yourself a favour and buy a criterion dvd or hell even sample his greatness by downloading some Bergman via torrent or usenet (it is out there), open yourself up to another world of film. That's the greatest respect you could pay the passing of a master like Bergman, ensuring that his films are still seen and appreciated by brand new audiences, even after the man himself is no longer with us.
July 31, 2007, 7:40 a.m. CST
Bill Walsh. Three geniuses lost within a day or so.<P> Despite some of its goofiness, I LOVE Blowup. I don't feel so bad about someone dying in their 80's or 90's after a full, productive life full of such high achievements. Lucky men.
July 31, 2007, 8:08 a.m. CST
...as sad it is that all those great and inspiring filmmakers die...they've had a great and really LONG life. It's not like they died at a young age or something. If you're 94, I guess that you know that your time has come. <br> It's good to see this mourning TB on top of the list. And it's comforting to let all the images these guys have produced come alive again while reading all those comments or talking about our personal "Bergman"- or "Antonioni"-moments......
July 31, 2007, 10:05 a.m. CST
... let me just say that L'Avventura remains one of the most unsettling and brilliant films I've ever seen. And nothing really happens!
July 31, 2007, 10:06 a.m. CST
Thanks, Ingmar. You were one of the great atheist filmmakers, probing faith and asking questions most people wouldn't touch with a fifty foot pole.<p> I know you're not looking down on us from a higher place, as most religious people would have us believe. You're just gone. Nonexistent. We're left with your collection of remarkable films, like memories of a life well spent.<p> Farväl.
July 31, 2007, 10:54 a.m. CST
Michel Serrault, the classic French actor died sunday. He was in such classic french movies as Blier's "Buffert froid", "Deadly run", "Beaumarchais the scoundrel", the original "Birdcage" and "Under suspicion". He'll be missed.
July 31, 2007, 11:30 a.m. CST
I've never heard of these people before.
July 31, 2007, 11:39 a.m. CST
I'll admit to not having seen any Antonioni. I actually had Blow Up at home recently and things were too busy for me to sit down and watch it properly, so I sent it back. Maybe I'll try something else this time.
July 31, 2007, 11:50 a.m. CST
by Stuntcock Mike
My girlfriend always calls it The Seventh Sign. Yeah, Demi Moore as Death.
July 31, 2007, 11:51 a.m. CST
by drew mcweeny
... I've been on a plane pretty much since I posted this article, and I just turned everything on to find Antonioni died, too. I'll have that talkback up in just a few guys. And Michel Serrault? Man... brutal week for international film fans.
July 31, 2007, 11:51 a.m. CST
they will but at 1 am in the morning. Idiots. Then they will do exactly the same thing with antonini. stick a whole bunch of his movies at 2 am. Rte supporting the arts, my arse. The IFI will possibly do a huge retrospective at Dublin International film festival. of both men.
July 31, 2007, 1:03 p.m. CST
love The Magician, love The Silence, Fanny & Alexander, Sawdust & Tinsel, Smiles of a Summer Night, Cries & Whispers, Prison, All These Women, The Devil's Eye, Winter Light, Hour of the Wolf. Not to mention the masterpieces Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries, & Persona. the Best EVER!
July 31, 2007, 1:13 p.m. CST
by Bone-In Foray
Great directors, actors, and the like - ye who have shed your terra bound shackles and passed over the threshold - thank you. I am not saddened by your passing. You lived a long, full life and, in its course, bestowed upon the world a complete body of work that has and will continue to set the standard. It is however the proper time to remember and honor your memory and all that you have offered the world of film. And I shall. RIP.
July 31, 2007, 2:01 p.m. CST
that really made me laugh...thanks!
July 31, 2007, 2:02 p.m. CST
July 31, 2007, 2:05 p.m. CST
that I didn't get to experience more of his work before he died. Only over the last few months have I begun watching his movies. Starting with The Seventh Seal and Virgin Spring. I was planning on watching Wild Strawberries tomorrow night. Strange timing, to be sure. He is fast becoming one of my favorite directors; the news pretty much ruined my night yesterday.
July 31, 2007, 2:25 p.m. CST
by Bone-In Foray
I, too, enjoy a cheapshot at Blockbuster whenever possible - they certainly deserve it. But don't you think it's more like the "Hollywood effect" than anything? When was the last time you saw a commercial or billboard promoting anything other than the most innane tripe imaginable (albeit innane tripe with an impressive Hollywood budget)? Nay - Blockbuster is just another sick corporation - a cog if you will. The machinery here is Hollywood - the true evil and purveyor of the big budget, special effect-laden, top-grossing crapola... All I have to say is, thank God for international film, the Criterion Collection, Netflix, and the small group of American film directors who will not sacrafice their vision for money.
July 31, 2007, 2:59 p.m. CST
by in the future there wont be men and women only wankers
it could be the zucker brothers next!!!!
July 31, 2007, 3:22 p.m. CST
July 31, 2007, 4:26 p.m. CST
by mr. brownstone
I like your user name, and your comment.
July 31, 2007, 6:51 p.m. CST
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July 31, 2007, 9:37 p.m. CST
Can we give him a talkback too, please? I know Harry's off doing the wedded bliss thing and Drew's a million miles away but c'mon folks...let's eulogize these icons please.
Aug. 1, 2007, 1:14 a.m. CST
This being a MOVIE WEBSITE and all, I think an obituary for both Bergman and Antonioni is duly appropriate. And most people who appreciate what film can accomplish would agree that these two deserve the praise they are getting. Antonioni received Oscar nods for Directing and Screenwriting in 1967 for "Blow-Up". The Academy also gave him an Honorary Oscar in 1995. Sure, I bet people like you probabaly used those five minutes of the telecast to go make a sandwich or use the bathroom, but you can't take away that moment that honored his body of work and contribution to cinema. The same for Bergman (who received the Thalberg Award from the Academy in 1971, and also had three of his films win Foreign Language Film). These men have made more of an impact on the world around them than you or I, so just because you don't give a fuck doesn't mean you speak for everyone.
Aug. 1, 2007, 1:19 a.m. CST
An old interview with Dick Cavett and then The Seventh Seal I think.
Aug. 1, 2007, 1:56 a.m. CST
this threads designated original-thought challenged troll. He was trained by the marketplace to accept linear narrative and fulfilled expectations to be central to his experience. Thats fine, but don't play pseudo-superior just because some of us enjoy directors who challenge all of the assumptions in relation to the language of film. Film is an art form with an unlimited number of languages, and the linear narrative is merely one of them.
Aug. 1, 2007, 7:16 a.m. CST
I liked the one that was in black and white.
Aug. 1, 2007, 11:18 a.m. CST
by T 1000 xp professional
you want to hear irony...I saw Seventh Seal and Autumn Sonata last week. It was all my fault :(