July 28, 2007, 2:18 a.m. CST
July 28, 2007, 2:35 a.m. CST
by George Newman
...But now it is the brightest beacon of hope for the future. <p> Don't let us down Fav
July 28, 2007, 2:36 a.m. CST
Any video from the panel make it out yet?
July 28, 2007, 2:43 a.m. CST
I love the attitude of "I want it to be like Adi Gravnov's suit" and that's it. Awesome. Just bring it to life.
July 28, 2007, 3:16 a.m. CST
by THE KNIGHT
That would definitely be an interesting read. I'd love to know how post production is going.... LET QUINT VIST THE EDITING ROOM PARAMOUNT! <p> Good job quint!
July 28, 2007, 3:22 a.m. CST
by Colier Rannd
From the moment he opened the MySpace page I have had great respect for Jon. He's not just paying lip service but actually getting involved with fans. And he's lost a lot of weight since last time I saw him. He looks good! Hope this all goes great for him.
July 28, 2007, 4:21 a.m. CST
Crimson Dynamo? Whirlwind? Spymaster? The BLIZZARD? Do these names mean NOTHING to you?
July 28, 2007, 5:20 a.m. CST
...Arrived late to the Con, 1st thing I heard from an Exhibitor/Friend: "Did you SEE the Iron Man footage!?" ('cause he knows I'm usually there all/every day) ...and I LOVED what Jon did with Zathura (and his Con presentation there of), and his opinion of the Con changing under Hollywood's gaze in the last 4 years especially!!
July 28, 2007, 5:51 a.m. CST
Main villians: Spider-Man/Green Goblin, Doc Oc, FF/Dr. Doom. Capt America/Red Skull, X-men/ Magneto, Thor/Loki,....Iron Man/err....
July 28, 2007, 6:04 a.m. CST
He nearly get a lifetime pass just for "Swingers", but this interview makes me respect him even more.
July 28, 2007, 7:35 a.m. CST
by mr. brownstone
That movie makes me shit myself with laughter. It's got such a great, uncomfortable vibe. There should be a scene where Tony Stark awkwardly bitch slaps a bell boy.
July 28, 2007, 8:10 a.m. CST
Ultimo, Madame Masque, Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man, Obadiah Stane, Justin Hammer, Mandarin, the Melter, the Living Laser, err...Mister Doll... and, as his alcoholism and current god complex prove, Tony Stark is also his own worst enemy. None of those baddies may be a-list material in terms of villainy but IM has got a better and more varied rogues gallery than Captain America or Superman. No, think about it! Who has Supes got other than Lex Luthor and Brainiac? And who is there for Cap apart from the Red Skull? Zemo, who is just the Red Skull in a bad costume? Batroc ze Lepair?
July 28, 2007, 8:47 a.m. CST
Planning his vengence. Which he will soon unfold.
July 28, 2007, 8:59 a.m. CST
Awesome interview!! thank you. I love how he talks about the tone of Iron Man.. striking the right balance. And he does listen to his fans and the fans of the real Iron Man books. I wish him nothing but the best. I hope the movie is a huge success!!! I am thinking it will be.
July 28, 2007, 9:18 a.m. CST
It gets old hearing about Supes and his supposed 'thin rogues gallery' so here goes...BESIDES Lex and Brainiac...Darkseid, Metallo, Parasite, Toyman, Doomsday, Bizarro, Zod & Phantom Zone baddies...these are pretty good villains...plus I would also include Lobo and Mr. Mxyzptlk. Even Eclipso (under-rated!) got started in Action Comics. Gotta remember to cut and paste that list for the next Superman tb ;^)
July 28, 2007, 9:21 a.m. CST
This guy is a freak of nature, he was born without the the "bullshit" gene. From all that I hear he is a class act straight down the line. <p> This sounds like a cool enough movie, although for me Downey's performance is going to be the key, but it's worth saying again how nice it is to hear from someone at Favreau's level who's so unpretentious and grounded.<p> Not to go too deep, but I will never forget a magazine piece Favreau wrote a decade or so ago in praise of MONOGAMY... about how cool it is to just be close to and fuck one woman, and not to sleep around... & not for some preachy Christian reasons but just because that's where the best love (& lovin') are at, for those men lucky enough to know it... well, I'm a hard-line monogamous guy too, always have been, and that essay really stuck with me. A class act.
July 28, 2007, 9:29 a.m. CST
BRING KEVLAR-MAN NOW!!!
July 28, 2007, 9:32 a.m. CST
Good to see Jon got his eating under control. Far cry from what he looked like here: http://armchairathlete.blogspot.com/2005/11/what-happened-money.html
July 28, 2007, 9:34 a.m. CST
I'm actually excited about superhero movies again. Favreau sounds like a stand up guy, my favorite part was "of course you want a giant fucking dragon!" Hells, yeah! I"m pumped for this.
July 28, 2007, 10:04 a.m. CST
All I wanna see is the damn footage. It's all that matters, the interview didn't bring anything new and as someone said earlier it was too much of a starstruck chat to be taken seriously. <p> I understand how Fav's respectable motto can ring any bell with the fans, but he's just selling his stuff. The site seems to have close ties (and I don't say that in a sarcastic fashion) with the prod: why don't you try to ask more serious stuff about the adaptation, the way they handle the characters - not only Stark, try to dig a lil' deeper with the supporting cast, damn it! I know something is wrong with an interview when it sounds like a promotional BS from a DVD bonus disc. Try bold, well-informed questions for a change! You said you were a fan of DINNER FOR FIVE and frankly, it feels like. <p> And the "weak rogue gallery" stuff is just ignorant: Madame Masque is a tragic villain a la Catwoman, Mandarin kicks ass and even a B-grade screenwriter above the AkivaG-level could turn it into a "respectable" foe, SpyMaster is a badass henchman, Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man have the potential to be visually stunning, the Controller is a wicked guy, Force is Stark's evil mirror image,... and I don't even mention bad guys from other series like Dr Doom or Ultron (frankly, after the catastrophic Doom of the FF movies I wouldn't bother if they recreated him in another franchise, it makes sense comic-wise as long as it doesn't repeats the bad guy's origin). <p> Well, sorry for the rant Quint but the chat was disapointing. I don't blame you for not knowing Iron Man's mythology, but some of Fav's answers needed to be challenged. No need to go David Frost on his ass but boldness and respectful manners aren't mutually exclusive.
July 28, 2007, 10:13 a.m. CST
THAT would be a visually and thematically exciting bad guy. Same with AIM, these guys mean business. <p> Ok, I'll stop it here. Again, sorry for the rant Quint, but I'm not the kind of guy bitching when it's inappropriate. This interview was boring and except for the Granov/Favreau run there was nothing new. I'm pretty sure your comments about Downey's work would've been more relevant with the footage (even in mediocre quality) included. You should've waited til' tomorrow and the probable leak of the teaser to run this interview, so we could've compared your thoughts with the real thing. In other words: TOO SOON!!! ^^
July 28, 2007, 11:23 a.m. CST
I followed his book for 5 years, and not a single villain jumps out at me as someone I HAVE to see on the big screen. No, listing Iron Man villains does not win that argument. All it does is put one display how lackluster his top-tier adversaries are. Crimson Dynamo would be cool, but it'll be tough to update for post-Cold War without the fanboys going ballistic.
July 28, 2007, 11:30 a.m. CST
I'll bet he did it too. Good job, Favs.
July 28, 2007, 11:32 a.m. CST
by YO MOM'S GOAT
July 28, 2007, 11:38 a.m. CST
Can you imagine the ridicule of an IM movie with the main villain being named Crimson Dynamo?
July 28, 2007, 11:41 a.m. CST
I think it's very akin to The Flash's: lots of interesting, imaginative, & colorful characters, even if they never really made the A-list. But with the right writer & proper attention, a bunch of them could really take off. I think it would be really fun to see Blacklash or Modok or the Controller on the screen.
July 28, 2007, noon CST
You have fanboys crying their eyes out because the Joker paints his face instead of having it scarred by acid. If you don't think these same "fans" will raise a shitstorm over a Crimson Dynamo who works for Al Qaeda instead of the Soviet Union, you're just naive.
July 28, 2007, 12:03 p.m. CST
or Doctor Octopus... We all know how lame these were onscreen, and how their sheer silliness kept the audience away...
July 28, 2007, 12:08 p.m. CST
you may not be aware of it, but there are a lot of bad guys in Russia (and its surroundings). Updating doesn't mean raping: between angry military, separatists and former communists I'm pretty sure they don't run out of nutjobs. I've heard that the Abomination is the villain in Incredible Hulk, and I'm pretty sure they'll keep his eastern europe origin, too. As for the name, you can show a villain in a movie without mentioning his name if too silly (see Venom or - again - the Abomination).
July 28, 2007, 12:33 p.m. CST
Ya know, i'm of two minds on this one. On the one hand I think you have to be relevant to create a truly compelling story for mainstream audiences, and in that sense you absolutely have to go with a Jihadist terrorist organization, in order to capture the most prevalent fears of today's world. But on the other hand, there is a certain amount of escapism that people want out of these films, and to not have the horrors of the daily news invade their entertainment, which steers you toward the Eastern European route (not that I mean in any way to diminish their own horrors). So it really comes down to how they want to play it for the average movie-goer, which gives them a few different options, and obviously some would cause more controversy with fandom than others, but as has been stated many times, we are hardly the largest demographic for these films.
July 28, 2007, 12:45 p.m. CST
No "g" in the first part of his name. <p> And Iron Man's enemies are sort of lame, but I'd still love to see some of them on the screen. AIM is a good idea (and yes, a live-action MODOK would be a hoot). I'd like to see the Beetle brought into it somewhere (I know, he shared this villain with Spider-Man, but still... Armored enemy and all). <p> Really, the Radioactive Man and Titanium Man might be cool. Stan is Stark's best enemy in my opinion. <p> I'd buy them wedging ULTRON in as an enemy, after they make the Ant Man movie and have Ultron wander over to Iron Man's movies.
July 28, 2007, 12:57 p.m. CST
I know what you mean, but what hindsight do we have about Al Qaeda, middle east conflicts and Muslim fanatics? It could be a good idea, but I'm pretty sure it would end up being stereotyped BS to please the lowest common denominator and the media warmongers. <p> I'd rather watch an interesting story about the remnants of the cold war and how some people can scheme in the shadows of the war on terror without being spotted. That's precisely what happens in eastern europe, that's relevant, and the whole basis is not really more sophisticated than a 007 flick. I'd buy that. And with the proper trailer and marketing, even the most clueless, brainwashed moviegoer would be hyped for that, and could learn a thing or two in the process. So to me being faithful is an asset, it depends on the angle, the confidence the producers have in their property, and the focus on a more mature demographics. Not saying it must be R-rated, a PG-13 clever script is all I ask.
July 28, 2007, 1:47 p.m. CST
Lazy story writing will doom the movie if a balance of villian and hero is not done right.
July 28, 2007, 2:02 p.m. CST
Is there a geek alive that doesn't? Christ knows I do! I hope Favreau nails this sucker and Marvel can get the Hulk back on track after the Ang Lee disaster, leading to....Avengers Assemble!!!
July 28, 2007, 2:22 p.m. CST
but I'd rather sleep with Blair Butler. I love how she holds her mic real tight.
July 28, 2007, 3:12 p.m. CST
Requiem for a dream style: Ass to ass starring Olivia as Slave Leia and Blair Butler as a stormtrooper. Coming 2009 20th Century Fox/Vivid Video. Honestly, would it be any more damaging to the reputation of SW than the prequel trilogy? I think not. Also, for those of you disparaging Iron Man's gallery of rogues, you've obviously forgotten about Unicorn!
July 28, 2007, 3:37 p.m. CST
Your Kenvin aren't you But I'd rather Titty Fuck Leyla Kehlieh (sp)
July 28, 2007, 3:52 p.m. CST
Daaang that movie is too long. But Bob was great, made me want to see more of him on screen. So color me officially excited.
July 28, 2007, 4:20 p.m. CST
Does anybody have a link? YOU TUBE? Anyone? Oh, and Olivia Muun is a tasty morsel of geekgrrl goodness. Want to touch the heiny! Want to exchange fluids! Want to (censored)!
July 28, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST
On one side I'm glad that The Manderin wont be like story's Dr. Doom he was a POS character but at the same time I'll miss the 10 rings and I think It could have been done believably.
July 28, 2007, 4:58 p.m. CST
Soooo Mandarin would be too "out there" but a guy who designs a flying suit with laser cannon hands is totally grounded in reality? Can we just fucking have a good comic book movie please? I'm becoming of the opinion that none of the major superhero movies have been good, period.
July 28, 2007, 5:58 p.m. CST
Well, I do like Obidah Stane, as the brains, but there were a set of bad guys in his employ, the Chessmen. Kinght, Bishop and Rook. Iron Monger/Stane is a good top villan.<p> How about Ultron, he is no less a part of Iron Man as Sandman was of SpiderMan.<p> But it is true, Iron Man was more character driven a story line. Less dependent on villains than other superheros. Stark was his own worst enemy a lot of the time. I remember another guy Stark fought a lot. Magma? or something like that. He had a battle armor and a moltan slag gun or something like that. Anyway, I always liked Iron Man, and I hope they do a good job with him.
July 28, 2007, 6:49 p.m. CST
I think a cool way to do Mandarin as more "believable" would be as a Chinese Corporate Mastermind / Super Scientist / Genetic Designer guy with somekind of super-enhancements in his body -- the whole nanobots, micromachines, genetech, supersoldier, supervirus thang; like a 'hard sci-fi' kinda set up. Make him a like a delusional, messianic, super-nationalist too; like he thinks he's some kind of god, or wants to become a god. That could also be a neat way to lead into the whole 'extremis' thing in the comics whereby Tony became actually bonded, on the genetic level, with his suit and, apparently, every piece of techonology on the planet (Stark has certainly become one spooky-ass fascist dood). This kind of "becoming more than man" theme would be a great thing for IRON MAN 2, with extremis-fortified Tony and genetech superman The Mandarin as mirrors of each other. I think it could be done in a 'realistic' way, but it would piss off the anal-retentive geeks to no small degree, but then again, they'd see it anyway, so their word means less than nothing.
July 28, 2007, 7:12 p.m. CST
by Mr Squirrel
Hey Jon I know you're reading this, you should have Downey reference that (Seinfeld) line, like 'what, you think I'm naked in there?' Or has shooting finished? Anyway, you're doing an awesome job we all love you very much. And congrats on losing the fatsuit!
July 28, 2007, 7:38 p.m. CST
you just helped me save 30 bucks from the doctor! Thanks. <p> Kidding aside... I'm pretty sure the footage must be uploaded on youtube by someone, somewhere, somehow... I'd like to preemptively (sp?) thank this kind person.
July 28, 2007, 9:23 p.m. CST
...but it sounds like the boy favreau has got this one nailed, rather. cant wait to see some footage from this - posters look nice, but i want to see how "gritty" it goes. this really could be superb.
July 28, 2007, 9:32 p.m. CST
I always liked his style. I can't wait for this flick to hit. Iron Man Indy AND Batman in the same year? HEAVEN.
July 28, 2007, 9:54 p.m. CST
Being anal-retentive, in this sense, would mean being absolutely resistant to any changes made in the comic in order to make it more accessible to the audience, or compress 30+ years of backstory into a cohesive 2 hour movie. You know that kind of thing that every fanboob whines about whenever a new comic book based movie comes out regardless of whether or not its any good? Not that it matters, since it seems the haters are the ones who wind up spending the most money on seeing these movies and buying their related products and services anyway (a kind of geeky consumer masochism, or just pretending to hate because, I dunno, yr still 10 years old or something). <br><br>Thinking my idea is lame, on the other hand, has nothing to do with being anal necessarily, it merely proves how much of an unimaginative, clueless dumbass you are. Of course, everyone is entitled to their worthless opinions, just as everyone is entitled to eventually die. Some thankfully sooner than others.
July 28, 2007, 10:05 p.m. CST
for a moment I thought you'd wish me cancer for disagreeing with you. But you wouldn't push it that far, would you? <p> But you're pretty imaginative for throwing names at perfect (and I dare say, peaceful) strangers. I give you that.
July 28, 2007, 10:15 p.m. CST
Two of us who are maybe a little touchy? Or was the initial insult meant to provoke some peaceful debate? I suppose it was merely a lack of communication. If so, appy polly logies! Perhaps we should each take a stress pill and think things over? Daisy... Daisy... tell me your answer true...
July 28, 2007, 10:31 p.m. CST
Skipped over most of this TB after I read that gay say the movie should be 90 mins. I love a movie that I can settle into and become a part of the world. Two and a half... three hours is fine as long as the acting is good. As long as TS doesn't start playing jazz piano out of the blue. I've got an attention span that likes to linger, I know it's not the best way to make a billion, but I love it when the movie slows down a little and lets the characters breathe.
July 28, 2007, 10:33 p.m. CST
I meant guy, not gay. Fnordian slip.
July 28, 2007, 10:42 p.m. CST
and I stand by my opinion. Maybe I should've replaced the "L" word with "shabby" or "not so good"... What kind of PC bullshit world did we live in? <p> If you think I'm wrong then prove me wrong with your big break in comicdom. But with such uncivilized manners I suggest you hire a ghostwriter for your cover letter.
July 28, 2007, 10:43 p.m. CST
July 29, 2007, 2:25 a.m. CST
Iron Man artistic GOD. 'Nuff said.
July 29, 2007, 2:39 a.m. CST
I found it in an IMDb thread. It looks awesome, although the guy playing Stark's rescuer in Afghanistan is only so-so. The Mark I suit battle is cool, and the flying scenes will be amazing on a big screen. They really play up the "Stark as a dick" angle, and it should make him a cool character to watch. Only a quick peek at Pepper and Bridges as Stane.
July 29, 2007, 2:53 a.m. CST
Hollywood's bullshit meter should be history by Summer 2008!
July 29, 2007, 4:48 a.m. CST
IRON MAN FOOTAGE
July 29, 2007, 7:51 a.m. CST
by Swiss Trev
July 29, 2007, 8:15 a.m. CST
by Swiss Trev
...he's on his honeymoon/celebratory road trip for crying out loud.....just cut him some slack dude - sometimes this site is on the ball and ahead of everyone else and sometimes they're a wee bit behind - heh!....some people have lives outside of internet geekdom you know?....family, friends, a life and stuff like that - try it sometime….peace.
July 29, 2007, 1:47 p.m. CST
Well, I understand the feeling that a superhero benefits from a supervillian to fight, but many aspects of the Mandarin as they appear in the books are difficult to translate to the screen. His costume (with a giant "M" on the front, which a Chinese man wouldn't wear, as he would have a different native script) would be silly. The idea of a man who has karate abilities that could damage Iron Man's armor is also silly. Lastly, the 10 rings the Mandarian wields in the comics might offer some interesting battles and CGI moments, but the concept is hard to ground in reality, as they seem to evoke magical powers. I'm just hoping for a more original and adult comic book movie than we've seen recently. Too bad they couldn't make an R-rated Iron Man. As for Iron Man's villians, I always liked the two Soviet armor foes (Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man), but that might bring in stale elements, as the Cold War is supposedly over (although recent US-Russian relations are in the toilet, and Russia is arming America's enemies). Other villains I liked were Ultimo (controlled by the Mandarin, and who scared the crap out of me when I was a kid), The Blood Brothers ( a cool concept - separate them, and their strength lessens) and The Crusher. Here are some other villains off the top of my head, some of which may be too "one-note" to work effectively: Blizzard, The Melter, Whiplash, The Gladiator (those whirring blades in IM 7-8 were awesome), Hawkeye and the Black Widow, Madam Masque, The Spymaster (IM 117 was one of my favorites), The Controller (controlled minds and collected strength through metal discs on slave's heads), Firebrand, the Unicorn (his power horn was cool), The Freak (Happy Hogan after radiation), The Guardsman (a Stark friend and employee in Iron Man-like armor, motivated by revenge and mentally ill), and Ultron, Dr. Doom and Thanos (whom Iron Man fought alongside others). The trick is to jumpstart the Iron Man film world with villains that will be good characters and cinematically interesting, while retaining some sense of plausability. I guess that Favreau et al. thought that the most conventional villains would be best at the outset. Presenting a world in the opening film that included bizarre beings like Ultimo and the Blood Brothers, or pseudo magic powers like many of the other villains would have been dicey.
July 29, 2007, 2:25 p.m. CST
Seriosly, anyone who's seen the bootlegged version of the Comic Con footage does NOTHING but drool like an idiot. It's THAT good. Throw up a high quality version online, Jon! It can't help but drum up excitment for the movie.
July 29, 2007, 2:57 p.m. CST
by The Founder
IM is cool enough although little known outside the comic world to have his own film, but he fuctions better on The Avengers team. Hopefully this will lead up to an Avengers or Ultimates flick, which I think the Ulitmats is what marvel is going to go with over The Avengers.
July 29, 2007, 3:03 p.m. CST
by The Founder
Sorry to the IM fans but he doesn't. The Mandarin is probably his most popular and I'm not against what JF said. The Madarin is cartoonish and would need an update or a different take for a film. I'm against changes as much as the next guy, but he needs to altered somewhat for a film. As for IM's other villians most come across as hired muscle. The Blizzard or Whirlwind? Wasn't they hired by guys like Hammer to take out Stark or something? Don't get me wrong they could be cool visually for a fight, but a real Villian IM just doesn't have, well not certainly along the lines as say a Magneto to the Xmen.
July 29, 2007, 6:12 p.m. CST
Stan Winston is clearly in top form there.
July 29, 2007, 10:06 p.m. CST
July 30, 2007, 1:37 a.m. CST
If the Iron Man movie is a fraction as good as that ComicCon trailer then Mervel Studios is going to be batting 1,000 right out of the gate. Friggin Wow man. I gotta agree though that Jon really should put out a high res version of that trailer for us. It can only help his cause for this movie cause that trailer kicked some serious ass.
July 30, 2007, 1:48 a.m. CST
Meant to say Marvel Studios.