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ABC’s PUSHING DAISIES!!
NBC’s BIONIC WOMAN!!
Fox’s SARAH CONNOR!!
What Think The Geeks??

Published at: July 28, 2007, 2:36 a.m. CST by hercules

I am – Hercules!!
Comic Con San Diego is screening at least three more pilots Saturday. ABC’s “Pushing Daisies” is the best of all the fall pilots. Created by Bryan Fuller, who also created “Dead Like Me” and “Wonderfalls” and wrote some of the best episodes of “Heroes” last season, it stars hot British actress Anna Friel (playing an American) and screens at 9:15 a.m. in Room 6CDEF. NBC’s “Bionic Woman” was not as good, even though I think it was at least partially scripted by Jason Smilovic (“Karen Sisco,” “Kidnapped”). It stars hot British actress Michelle Ryan (playing an American) and screens at 10 a.m. in Ballroom 20. Fox’s “The Sarah Connor Chronicles” was also not as good, even though it was scripted by Josh Friedman (Spielberg’s “War of the Worlds”). It stars hot British actress Lena Headey (playing an American) and screens 5:15 p.m. in Room 6CDEF. I think these shows have also been floating around something called the “bittorrents” for some time now. Whether you've seen them online or at the convention, you are encourged to voice your views on these projects in the talkback area below. A concluding digression: Other Britishers doing American accents on American TV these days include Jamie Bamber (“Battlestar Galactica”), Hugh Laurie (“House”), Lennie James (“Jericho”), Dominic West (“The Wire”), Ian McShane (“Deadwood”), Anaastasia Griffith (“Damages”), Kevin McKidd (“Journeyman”) and Damian Lewis (“Life”).





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  • July 28, 2007, 1:25 a.m. CST

    First!

    by isther

    Yeah, Im so pathethic

  • July 28, 2007, 1:29 a.m. CST

    Bugger! Second

    by cymraeg_cowboy

    Damn couldn't log in quick enough for my first ever first (and I'm a Hot Brit too)

  • July 28, 2007, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Scots aren't British?

    by Hercules

    Are we certain?

  • July 28, 2007, 1:36 a.m. CST

    Al Swearengen was English

    by alynch3

    Why does everybody keep saying that McShane did an American accent on Deadwood? He's speaking in a slightly toned down English accent. Hell, Jane referred to him as a "Limey Cocksucker" on numerous occasions.

  • July 28, 2007, 1:46 a.m. CST

    Swearengen was born in Oskaloosa, Iowa

    by Hercules

    Word to your mother.

  • July 28, 2007, 1:49 a.m. CST

    Pushing Daisies best, but not by much

    by ls420

    I enjoyed Pushing Daisies, great visuals and style. It reminded me of Tim Burtons Beetlejuice for some reason. <br><br> TSCC was ok I guess, I think they should reshoot the bad terminator with someone else. He just looked goofy in his scenes, teach him how to hold a gun please...but ill watch just because its terminator based. <br><br> BW, well, i think it pretty much sucked except for a few of the action scenes. I felt rushed at the beginning, they should slow the first 15 minutes down a bit imo.

  • July 28, 2007, 1:57 a.m. CST

    Ranking

    by Jiggah

    Bionic Woman was horrible. The dialogue and the script itself left nothing to be desired. There was absolutely zero chemistry and character motivation. It felt like they are trying to shove action where it is unnecessary. They need to develop the character first and then give them motivation for the action. The main character seems like she's angst for the sake of being angst. I heard they are retooling the show by recasting the sister. I don't think that was the problem at all. This show won't last without a major overhaul in the script department and dialogue. Sarah Connor Chronicles has potential. The show itself looks like it'll cost a lot to maintain, this is under the assumption that something well blow in at least every episode. The acting was okay. Pushing Daisies is the only one I can recommend. The plot and story work really well for the pilot. It felt like I was watching a movie. The characters are fleshed out nicely every character is given ample significance and understanding motivation. It works well on many levels and has a somewhat sophisticated humor.

  • July 28, 2007, 2:08 a.m. CST

    I'm from Scotland, but I am British.

    by Grando

    These nationalists have seen Braveheart far too many times.....

  • July 28, 2007, 2:20 a.m. CST

    Bionic Woman won't last more than 8 episodes!

    by Boomers_Lips

    Isaiah Washington is a show-killer.

  • July 28, 2007, 2:31 a.m. CST

    A Review of the pilot forThe Sarah Connor Chronicles

    by Amano-Jyaku

    I was able to see the 1st episode of the upcoming The Sarah Connor Chronicles. It was better than I thought it would be and not as good as I hoped at the same time. One brief side note before I begin: RIVER TAM IS BACK! Alright, all jokes aside, The Sarah Connor Chronicles is an action/adventure television series and it starts out so in its first five minutes. What follows from this point on will be SPOILER ridden so read at your own peril. The story starts off in 1999, two years after the events in Terminator 2. After a prologue and a dream sequence we meet the new Sarah Connor, Lena Headey, and her soon to be husband. Sarah can’t take the pressure of the impeding marriage and is paranoid about being found by the authorities and the Terminators, believing no one is safe. She grabs John and takes off for New Mexico under the alias of Reese. Sarah’s would-be husband contacts the police with a picture of Sarah and the FBI show up. The FBI agent tells Sarah’s fiancé all about her belief in killer robots, the end of the world, her time in a mental institute, et certera as he looks on stunned. The fiancé tells the FBI agent the new name she is using, Sarah Reese. Once the agent inputs that into the FBI database, an evil Terminator who is monitoring that database is alerted. Once in New Mexico, John begins attending high school again while Sarah works as a waitress. While at school, John meets a young girl named Cameron Phillips (Summer Glau). Cameron introduces herself to John and they end up in a few of the same classes together. It isn’t long before the alerted evil Terminator finds John and a surprise is revealed. If you don’t know what that surprise is by now, I’m not going to ruin it. It’s cool though, predictable from all of the promotional materials circulating the net, but cool nonetheless. After this point, battles ensue, chases commence and the line “Come with me if you want to live” is uttered. Skip to 2007, where all three main characters find themselves naked on a highway. This is also the first moment where something humorous occurs in the episode. You’ll laugh, guaranteed. The episode ends with all three preparing to hunt down SkyNet and the eventual dogfight that will consume all of their lives. The Good: Good action right out of the gate. The score is cool. Non-intrusive. Headey is hot. Glau is as cute as can be. Using the alias of Reese. Nice nod to T1. The Terminators’ use of different voices was effective. The Bad: There is almost a complete lack of blood during the episode. This is because the show isn’t on F/X, Spike or HBO. If it were, when a human gets shot or kneed in the nose, there would be blood. 75% of the gun fights are unrealistic in this episode because only the Terminators get hit. This is strange since the Terminators should be EXPERT MARKSMEN. Their computer brains should adjust for everything (wind, velocity, et cetera) before they even squeeze the trigger, let alone being able to anticipate the movement of a target. For two examples of this watch The Professional during the rifle training sequence and Shooter, even though the last third of that film is terrible and too long. The School Shooting sequence. Give me a break. No one but the gorram Terminator gets hit during the shootout in the classroom? Please. The scene would have been far more effective if a few innocents had gotten hit not to mention realistic. The Evil Terminator by definition is a human killing machine and should have no compunction to blowing away anyone (regardless of age) that gets in its way. Remember from T2: John: Jesus you were going to kill that guy. Terminator: Of course, I’m a Terminator. … John: You can’t just go around killing people. Terminator: Why? John: What do you mean why? Because you can’t. Terminator: Why? The screenwriters didn’t take this to heart or were hamstrung from doing so by the Fox network. So the clever (pu*sy) screenwriters have all of the students magically get out of the way. If they hadn’t, on the news casts that followed the classroom shooting, the reporters might have mentioned how the shooting echoed Columbine (since the shooting at Connor’s school occurs six months after Columbine’s). Please keep in mind though that what I just proposed would have taken a platinum set, both from the screenwriters and the Fox network, which they don’t have. If only this plot episode had been written by the writers of Blade: The Series and was on Spike TV. Damn. Anyway, The good Terminator eventually gets punched repeatedly in the face by the evil Terminator and has no bruising or blood on its face of any kind afterward. Come on. Since its metal covered by LIVING TISSUE, said tissue would be damaged after such a barrage and show it. I guess this particular Terminator wouldn’t be nice to look at for the remainder of the episode with this tiny fact added into the mix. If Terminators can hide hand guns inside of their bodies, underneath the flesh, why not bring a laser gun with them in the same fashion when traveling back from the future in the first place? Hmmmm. That way you wouldn’t have to rely on archaic technology to kill your targets. After the evil Terminator’s face and head are damaged very badly, it makes no effort to cover it up or blend in as did the Terminator in T1. Why? It doesn’t make any sense. Why doesn’t it simply wear a hoody and sunglasses over the damage? When the police, an entire SWAT team, see this thing, they don’t say one word. Not halt, stop, don’t go in there, freeze, nothing. Big plot mistake. Big error in logic. Then after the Terminator goes into this particular building, the police don’t follow it in, even after they hear glass break and metal clanging. WTF! Noooo, that’s not far fetched at all. That’s totally realistic. Conclusion: I was very entertained by the first episode of The Sarah Connor Chronicles but not half as much as I was by the first episode of Blade: The Series. Blade: The Series didn’t compromise when it came to blood and violence, making everything, even the ridiculous, more watchable and true to the original films. The Sarah Connor Chronicles does make those compromises, whether this is because of the network the show is on (probably) or because of the time slot it will be shown in, you always feel that there is a little something missing, whether it be intensity, logic or cohesion. Needless to say, there is room for improvement and if Heroes has taught us anything, there are always diamonds in the rough. They just need polishing.

  • July 28, 2007, 2:37 a.m. CST

    the “bittorrents”

    by kinanswer

    ...have flavr. Really enjoyed 'Daises'. It had a Tim Burton feel to it and think it's light enough to stick around.

  • July 28, 2007, 2:40 a.m. CST

    HOUSE OWNS YOUR ASSES!

    by ciroslive

    Laurie says the first three scripts for the new season are three of the best scripts he's read ever. EVER. Woohoo.

  • July 28, 2007, 2:45 a.m. CST

    My "Pushing Daisies" review...

    by FilmCritic3000

    <p>Can Bryan Fuller do no wrong? I'm beginning to think so.</p> <br> <br> <br> <p>His first high-profile work, the bitingly sarcastic "Dead Like Me", was unlike anything before seen on TV. He followed that up by co-creating "Wonderfalls", another brilliant series featuring a jaded, cynical protagonist with caustic wit. It, much like "Dead Like Me", was not given the attention it deserved by its network and thus was cancelled.</p> <br> <br> <br> <p>Now after biding his time writing scripts and acting as a co-executive producer on NBC's "Heroes" last season, he's back. And Fuller's pen and wit are as sharp as ever.</p> <br> <br> <br> <p>When Ned, a piemaker and owner and operating of the restaurant The Pie Hole, was a child he discovered that he possessed a remarkable gift: he can restore life to the deceased. It is also at this time that Ned discovers the many travails his gift comes with: the revived dead can only remain so for a minute; otherwise someone in the vicinity must die. Also, said revived, once touched a second time, cannot be revived again.</p> <br> <br> <br> <p>Enter Chuck (Charlotte), Ned's childhood crush and first kiss. She was recently murdered. Chuck is soon revived and, with the help of a detective Ned has entered into a murder-solving partnership with (Chi McBride), the trio set out to solve Chuck's murder.</p> <br> <br> <br> <p>Although many other reviews and even ABC's own press material on the series have mentioned that Pushing Daisies evokes the feeling of such films as "Amelie" and "Big Fish", I have to also agree. There's a gentle sweetness, a whimsical, benevolent current that flows through every frame of this, couched only in the bittersweet uncertainty of Chuck and Ned's pining for each other.</p> <br> <br> <br> <p>Swoosie Kurtz and Ellen Greene must be mentioned for their quirky yet utterly alive portrayals of Lily and Vivian, Chuck's two aunts. Fuller has fashioned them as ersatz versions of Edith Ewing Beale and Edith Beale, the aunt and first cousin of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, who were famously featured in the 1976 Maysles Brothers documentary "Grey Gardens". Greene was terrific in the 1986 musical film version of "Little Shop of Horrors", and here she takes the quirks and runs with them, as does her co-star Kurtz.</p> <br> <br> <br> <p>But it is the leads with which "Pushing Daisies" would live or die, and in that regard we have much cause for joy. Pace and Friel are these characters; they inhabit them so fully, so utterly that you feel for them and their plight immensely and immediately: two souls hungry for the closeness and commitment that only contact can provide.</p> <br> <br> <br> <p>For Fuller, this is a departure from what he's done before. It's got wit, a bit of snark, and a tinge of sadness, but it's all filtered through a prism of sunny dispositions, charm, and whimsy. It leaves the viewer with a smile and a warm feeling, but altogether wanting more. No doubt the same way one would feel after eating a slice of one of Ned's pies.</p>

  • July 28, 2007, 2:45 a.m. CST

    move the Kathy Griffin show to NBC!

    by Boomers_Lips

    she's fierce!

  • July 28, 2007, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Wendy Richards is free

    by CeefaxTheCat

    Quick America! Sign her up!

  • July 28, 2007, 3:28 a.m. CST

    HAVE SEEN ALL THREE

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    Pushies Daisies was good but very much a tim burton rip, stylisticly anyway. It's always almost too light and fantasy esc. The investigations and plot movement get bogged down by long loving stares between the male and female lead. That being said, everyone else who saw the pilot loved it so what the hell do i know. THE BIONIC WOMAN: Shot well, good, intense action. Lots of cheese and they never explain why this one time bartender is so good at hand to hand combat all of a sudden when she needs to be able to fight. The pilot i saw had the fat deaf sister, i heard she has been replaced by a super hot 20 year old. Good call, it's that kind of show. THE SARAH CONNER CHRONICLES: So freaking bad it made my eyes bleed. If this thing lasts more than six episodes i will be very very surprised. It's so bad. John is a annoying, sarah is annoying. It shits all over the established time line (I knwo I know, what established time line) And the bad terminators look straight from some dolf lundren 1996 straight to VHS flick. there is a school scene( that i hear is being reshot) where the terminator sneaks a hand gun into the school by hiding it inside his flesh. To get the gun, he rips into his leg and pulls it out. this is not a future gun, that he used his flesh to bring back through time. this is standard nine millimeter. It's so dumb...AHHHH look, I snick this gun into your school...shocking, now if i don't kill you right now i have to walk around with a giant noticable flesh wound for 100 years until my existing power supply dies. Stupid. that scene also ends with the terminator turning to a horrified class of kids and saying "class dismissed". that line sums up this waste of a pilot. but again, what the hell do i know. My favorite pilot was babylon fields which did not get picked up at all and Lipshitz saves the universe wich also didn't get picked up. Maybe my opinion sucks, or maybe network tv does.

  • July 28, 2007, 3:36 a.m. CST

    Sarah Conner Chronicles is good

    by Ayii

    Bionic Woman needs work, but I thought the Sarah Conner Chronicles was pretty good considering they don't have the budget the movies have.

  • July 28, 2007, 4:11 a.m. CST

    Bionic Woman was horrible

    by Jack Fetch

    Pushing Daisies was good, and Sarah Conner Chronicles was ok. Reaper is still the best new show coming out.

  • July 28, 2007, 4:17 a.m. CST

    written a review of all these...

    by subpar_daemon

    ...posted to Herc, guess he didn't want to use it. in short: pushing daisies is a bit too cutesy for its own good, very fairytale-like. and i can't really see how they can keep me hooked to tune in week by week. cavemen is horrible. sarah connor chronicles: not horrible, but neither quite good, except for summer glau the leads suck, the script is very obvious, and the execution is meh. chuck: good unadultered fun, and has adam baldwin (nuff said). great visuals, funny one-liners, great pacing, very good characters. reaper: due to the kevin smith influence, feels very much like dogma from the other side (and that's a good thing), ray-effing-wise!, dust devils... very very very good. bionic woman: yip, the beginning is a bit too fast-paced, but otherwise, a fine show, good characters and actors, great visuals, and the ending made me want to see more. <br><br> so, summing up, it's (1) reaper, (2) bionic woman, and (3) chuck what i'll be looking for. the rest, i can live without them.

  • July 28, 2007, 4:18 a.m. CST

    Amano-Jyaku

    by photoboy

    I agree with your review of the Sarah Connor Chronicles, the Terminators don't act enough like robots and they shouldn't be emptying clips of ammo without being certain they'll hit their target. I thought the jump forward in time at the end was a very interesting plot device, but I don't know if it will ever be used again to do interesting things with the plot.<br><br> I also have to wonder how often we'll see Terminators on the show. I've heard they won't be in it all the time so I have to wonder how fun it will be with just John and Sarah.<br><br> Apparently the school shootout is going to be refilmed anyway because of the Virginia massacre, so maybe they can fix it. And what the fuck was that "Class dismissed" line about? That was too corny and not something a robotic killing machine would say.

  • July 28, 2007, 4:27 a.m. CST

    ...and a few more things...

    by subpar_daemon

    okay, i will actually be tuning in for pushing daisies as well, but mainly for chi mcbride. man, that guy should have more primetime. <br><br> leafy, re: bionic woman: check out that big showdown bw. sarah and jamie(?). that is not refined martial arts, that's just two superhumanly strong women beating the cr*p out of each other. and besides, in this day and age, a twentysomething girl, especially if attractive (and our bionic woman is definitely a looker), gotta have at least some defensive martial arts training. amp that up with superhuman strength, and you get exactly that kind of a fight. <br><br> my favourite casting choice is the father of the young scientist. it's the lawyer from BSG! man, he has such a presence on screen... the epitome of intelligent badass.

  • July 28, 2007, 6:10 a.m. CST

    um how about BECAUSE Josh Friedman scripted WotW

    by Demosthenes2

    That movie could have been great if it'd had a semi-decent script; Spielberg was at the top of his game from a craftsmanship standpoint. I resent that Reaper is getting positive buzz because after losing Veronica I really don't want to ever be lured into watching CW again.

  • July 28, 2007, 6:10 a.m. CST

    Wow. the British are coming!

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    Also doing it for Queen and country are Idris Elba (the Wire), and Jake Weber (Medium). Americans playing British, James Marster in Buffy, and anything Sienna Miller does

  • July 28, 2007, 6:11 a.m. CST

    House season 4 info

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    Beware, here there be spoilers11 <P> http://www.tiny.cc/xevWZ

  • July 28, 2007, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Tattoos and Terminators, Prisonbreak like.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    I don't get this. Nothing can come back, or forward in time, except people and Terminators. Beyond the fact that terminators due to their very technology SHOULD NOT be able to travel through time like humans can. How come they do not tattoo various information OR computer code on the bodies? <p> If code was tattooed on a terminator body then any handheld ocr scanner could read it and turn later into programs. Vile futuristic programs to help SKYNET. <p> Or Prisonbreak like to carry information about where the Connors will be. or anything else useful, like futureistic weapons diagrams. Or Terminator build plans. <p> I find this incredibly stupid. Clearly John Connors becomes the underground genius he is due to combating Terminators in the past. Practice makes perfect and all that. <p> So why the fuck send back Terminators for him to train on? <p> Leave his pasty white ass to drink, dope, and whore like any teenager and his insurgent days are over. Matter of fact why not just send Terminator lovebots to fuck his ass into hedonistic decadence. <p> I also have to say these Terminators sucked. They can rip bank vaults apart but get the knockback from a truck. A REVVING truck that their faster than thought hearing picks up but fails to translate into either sidestep or brace your robotic legs to catch the bumper. <p> This show sucked. Not just for the above reasons but because it takes itself TOO seriously. Lack of humor means death. Even a couple of stupid Terminator sight gags would have brightened the doom and gloom air Chronicles carries.

  • July 28, 2007, 7:41 a.m. CST

    omfg...

    by RaveX

    watching bionic pilot right now, about halfway trough... and 28 days later music starts playing. <p> I mean, C'MON! in last 3 days, I've seen 28 weeks, beowulf trailer, some random trailer (think it was for a game)that also had that tune and this... is this new requiem tune?!?

  • July 28, 2007, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Pushing Daisies may be TOO smart for tv.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    While Pushing was clever and funny, it is probably far too smart for American tv. Most of the viewing audience is slack jawed drooling idiot dumbfucks who's heads this will go right over. <p> Just like Wonderfalls. <p> Just like any intelligent tv of the last decade.

  • July 28, 2007, 7:59 a.m. CST

    and on the sarah connor chronicles...

    by subpar_daemon

    ...i think the base fault lies with the very premise. now, stop for a second, and think why you've watched the first and second (and, maybe, just maybe, the third) terminator movies. <br><br> ...right, got it. got it? at least for me, *not* because of sarah connor. neither john connor. no, it was because of the frakking *terminators*, of course! so what is wrong with the show...? yip, right, it's about hysterical, paranoid tough-assed sarah and dimwitted, unwilling, reluctant slacker john. summer glau is too sweet and too human to be taken seriously as a terminator (hard to say this, but kristanna loken was at least ice-cold and menacing), and the male terminator... meh. well, i guess, this is my problem. the connors were always a bit of side characters next to the terminators, not too interesting in their own right. now, a series about the organization of the resistance, and john connor's emerging leadership, *that* would be interesting, and could take off right after t3. but this, knowing that things are heading towards the inevitable... it's a quick trip down to boredomville. my $0.02, anyways.

  • July 28, 2007, 8:02 a.m. CST

    btw... at 41:55 of bionic pilot

    by RaveX

    when her boyfriend is being taken by ambulance, is the font in which "ambulance" is written normal over there, or is it meant to be a BSG reference?

  • July 28, 2007, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Pushing Daisies was absolutely ridiculous

    by BrowncoatJedi

    What a crappy, convoluted premise. Calling it the best pilot is like calling Andy Barker P.I. the best comedy of the year. Insane.

  • July 28, 2007, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Bionic Woman & TSCC

    by Jakester

    I liked Bionic Woman a lot as is. I was impressed by Ryan (who I liked on EastEnders), and Sackhoff is frigging awesome. The reason "a bartender" wasa able to fight was explained -- they implanted some microscopic chips into her cerebral cortex that hard-wired her to be able to fight. Sarah Connor Chronicles was pretty good. I didn't miss Ahnuld at all, and thought Headey and Dekker both did really good jobs in their respective roles. Nice to see Glau looking hotter than ever and kicking ass. I also enjoyed the continuity between T2 and the series. Haven't seen Pushing Daisies yet, but I thought Reaper sucked ass.

  • July 28, 2007, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Evilwizard

    by Vadakin

    Skynet HAD to send a Terminator back in time...otherwise Skynet wouldn't exist (Tee T1 and T2) because there would have been no initial work done on the first Terminators cpu by Dyson. In fact, if the resistance hadn't sent Reese back in time to save Sarah Connor, then Skynet probably wouldn't have existed since the Terminator would kill Sarah, John Connor would never exist and the Terminator could then go away somewhere and live in a cave until his power cell runs out or something. <p> Terminator makes no sense whatsoever...neither does Back to the Future incidently...do you know that there are at least 3 Delorians, possibly 4 in a single time period (1955) during BTTF 2 and 3? <p> BTTF even breaks it's own rules because at the end of BTTF 1, Marty watches himself going back in time...but his experience will be different than the first Marty and so in BTTF 2, Marty really shouldn't be witnessing the events of Marty and George the way he initially experienced them. <p> Time Travel sucks

  • July 28, 2007, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Haven't seen any of this but

    by Sappers Forward

    I'm still going to make a prediction: Bionic Woman - Sucks, Sarah Connor - Sucks, Pushing Daisies - Ok. So let me get this straight, they're trying to tell us that a itty bitty hottie can have a robot arm installed and be able to lift cars? What about her spine, hips, shoulders, rib cage? That all has to be reinforced to withstand the LOAD on her new arm. Physics anyone? Terminator, gun scenes, what nobody taught the terminators how to shoot? Retarded. What a bunch of worthless crap. In China, the writers would be executed.

  • July 28, 2007, 9:58 a.m. CST

    The Sarah Connor Chronicles: cancelled.

    by palewook

    its on fox. you expected less?

  • July 28, 2007, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Vadakin, Both sides doomed. Heres why.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Reese is originally sent back to protect Sarah. <p> Reese is sent back BEFORE the war ends. <p> All the Terminators are sent back BEFORE the war ends. <p> No one is sent back AFTER the war ends. <p> Time travel technology would still exist after the war. <p> If nothing is sent back after the war when there would be much more detailed information for both sides to work with, then NEITHER side exists. <p> So either the entire world is wiped out or both sides are driven into some type of stone age or the surviving humans are complete Luddites. <p> But even if they became total anti-technology, they could still have managed to send back someone from IMMEDIATELY after the war was won. Someone who now has a full and precise knowledge of EXACT dates and events. Someone to successfully stop Skynet. <p> Most likely is both sides died in a horrible planet destroying conflagration. <p> I would have preferred seeing a show based more on the comics, you know the ones from John Connors time where small groups were combating Terminators on their own.

  • July 28, 2007, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Pushing Daisies = TVs Royal Tenenbaums

    by MyManD316

    The way the characters act, the narrator, even the fucking music. It's like the bastard child of Tim Burton and Wes Anderson <p> It was OK, but I kept being reminded of better things.

  • July 28, 2007, 11:10 a.m. CST

    what kind of geek list of englishers was that?

    by 13th Librarian

    Left off Britisher Paul Blackthorne as Harry Dresden...

  • July 28, 2007, 11:12 a.m. CST

    What about The Six Million Fuckin Dollar Man????

    by picardsucks

    Bionic Woman???? What the fuck. We want to see Steve Austin droppkicking steel doors and turning over cars and scoping chicks with his trusty superspy friend Oscar Goldman. I don't understand hollywood. A Six Million Dollar Man reboot would be a bonafied hit and they make,,,,The Bionic Woman???? Fucking retards!!! The amount of money they piss away for egos. Fuckin douchebags!!!

  • July 28, 2007, 11:21 a.m. CST

    EvilWizardGlick

    by photoboy

    Both Reese and the T-800 in T2 were sent back after the war had ended. In T1 Reese said they'd won. That's how they had access to the time travel tech in the first place. IIRC he said "Skynet's defence grid was smashed. We'd won".

  • July 28, 2007, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Six Million Dollar Man

    by Shoegeezer

    is still floundering in development hell. It's being saved for a movie franchise, Bionic Woman isn't. C'mon, you're lucky it's not the adventures of the Bionic Dog.

  • July 28, 2007, 11:48 a.m. CST

    photoboy, Then it really didn't matter.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Since that is the case, it is futile for Skynet to keep sending Terminators to the past. Humans win end game. <p> But if the humans win why not send someone back and layout the entire Skynet timeline for Sarah? <p> Reese I could understand rush job and all. But T2 no way. T2's hard drive should have carried every single speck of futurewear and history downloadable to pc hdd. <p> John Connor tactical genius would have understood that.

  • July 28, 2007, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Yes, the real-life Al Swearengen...

    by Al Swearengen

    was born in Oskaloosa, Iowa. I should fucking know.

  • July 28, 2007, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Simple answer...paradox and timelines

    by Vadakin

    If Reese hadn't gone back in time, not only would John Connor not exist, but there would be no war, no Skynet...we would enter a gradually changing loop...first time around a terminatoor is sent back to kill Sarah Connor...with no Reese, they don't end up in that factory place, Sarah probably dies, and Cyberdine don't get their hands on the T-101 cpu and arm. <p> It creates a new future without Skynet, so on the second loop, there is no Terminator to send back because there is no Skynet, Sarah Connor lives until she gets cancer and Judgement Day never happens. <p> Now it should be noted that the Terminators from T3 are from a different timeline than the one Reese and the first 3 terminators (good and bad T-101's and T-1000) came from since in the original timeline, Skynet was created by Cyberdine...but after young John and Sarah blew it up, the military took over the project, thus changing the date of Judgement Day...so... <p> It could be argued that in the T3 timeline, T1 and T2 never happened...at least from Skynet in the future's point of view, since for that skynet, Judgement Day was a different time...after all John Connor is the only one who knows about the initial Terminators and the original date for Judgement Day since he lived through it, whereas for everyone else there is only one Judgement Day date, which is the date in T3. <p> The terminator timeline is completely messed up and is likely to be messed up further by the series. <p> One interesting question though is why didn't Skynet send T-1000 back to the date of the original Terminator movie? You would have had Reese and a good terminator vs T-1000 and a bad Terminator.

  • July 28, 2007, 12:45 p.m. CST

    T-101 = T-800

    by Vadakin

    I get confused by all the numbers...so wherever I said T-101 i of course meant the later "Arnie" model

  • July 28, 2007, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Also, isn't that Aaron Tyler from Wonderfalls in PD?

    by Drath

    Isn't that the guy who played Jay's brother who is the lead of Pushing Up Daisies? It's the successor of Wonderfalls (and Dead Like Me) to me, so I hope I like it and that it does well! And technically, Ian McShane isn't doing an American on Deadwood. The show is cancelled. No, your repeated DVD watching and reruns do not count. Dry your tears in your pillows.

  • July 28, 2007, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Sarah Connor Show is actually ok

    by Dataset

    More than likely it will improve with age. It's a great mythos to work in.

  • July 28, 2007, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Is that really you AL

    by optimus122

    If so I loved DEADWOOD and you rocked..if not , I loved DEADWOOD and AL rocked.

  • July 28, 2007, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Hugh Laurie's American accent is rubbish

    by BrowncoatJedi

    I love Laurie and his work, but he does an obvious American accent nearly equal to Orlando Bloom in Elizabethtown. They both sound like they're doing Eddie Murphy's white guy impression.

  • July 28, 2007, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Yes, 'tis I, Albert fucking Swearengen.

    by Al Swearengen

    And if I didn't know better, I'd say you were making an appeal to my fucking vanity in the hopes of acquiring some free pussy, whiskey, or the like.

  • July 28, 2007, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Hugh Laurie's accent is convincing...

    by Christopher3

    It's just utterly generic - the US newscaster equivalent of BBC received pronounciation.

  • July 28, 2007, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Pilots Of Late...

    by Jochapma

    ...have been mixed. Seems that no matter how good TV seems to get there's always still shit they're piling on afterwards. Here's what I've seen thus far - SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES - incredible faithfulness to the mythology, along with Lena Headey's steely superpissed performance as Connor make this entry worthy of viewing. Dekker as the kid is so-so, as are some of the early production values (the Terminator's makeup, and the first skeletal T-800 we see looks more like the machine drawings from the comics as opposed to Winston's design in T2). Finally, Summer Glau guarantees fried gold. CALIFORNICATION - Playing off of the oldest of Hollywood cliches (a writer in LA with a mid-life crisis), Duchovny and Tom Kapinos elevate this series with smart-ass humor dryer than anyone of Jason Bateman's line readings in Arrested Development. Wetting the screen are all of the extremely nude women in the 24 min pilot (I think there are 4), all of which keep my eyes perked and my fingers on the Quicktime rewind button. BIONIC WOMAN - Nearly complete trash. And I say this, yes, never having seen the orginal, but I wasn't around in that time. I am, however, apart of the most wanted demographic now and I can tell when not much has been done to re-invent this series. Writing is lacking, therefore the performances hinder. In the wake of Veronica Mars, TV needs as many strong women as possible, so here's hoping this one is off the air asap. CHUCK - McG. Just that name alone strikes terror into my heart, like the visage of the batman's shadow does the same to criminals. Fear not, the music video turned creator of stylistic Angel garbage takes a qualude on this one and mellows out just enough to not get in the way of a fun plot. Actors are fine across the board, and thankfully another Serenity vet has been cast - Adam Baldwin, actually mixing his Jayne the mercenary with the gleam and charm of Marcus Hamiton. PUSHING DAISIES - Best. Pilot. So. Far. Eccentric, moving, and hopefully a place for Chi McBride to hang his hat for a while. We've got better than fine casting all around (including a long-awaited return of Audrey from Little Shop of Horrors), funny dialogue, and a moving story that mixes the wild imaginative sets from Lemony Snickets with the warmth and style of Tim Burton's Big Fish. BIG BANG THEORY - Last year I wrote an article on the rise of the single cam and the questionable death of the multicam by comparison. I was ill to make any conclusions on the latter topic, being patient with the networks, giving Louis C.K.'s multi a chance and noting the strength of Two-and-a-Half Men. But they're pushing their fucking luck with this trite, overwritten yet still outdated, cliched piece of shit. This time it's the nerd culture which takes the worst beating - they take our words ("bandwidth," "battlestar galactica"), which "dupes" us into buying that these characters aren't shells from 1970s TV. Stop it, CBS. Just stop it. CAVEMEN - If not for BIG BANG THEORY, this would be the worst. Good for a few laughs from the wisecracking cavemen friend, we are treading on not so thick ice. The racial allegory would be offensive if the show wasn't just a dumb multi-cam idea produced in the single-cam world. And from what I hear, they're still re-tooling everything, including the pilot, so that says enough. REAPER - Hopefully this show will get better, because I like it. The Jack Black School of Learning seems to be paying off for some, and obviously it's money well-spent by the CW after axing Veronica Mars. But there's a reasonable attempt at trafficking in between moods and genres here, which is what one can hope for in an age when there are no Whedon TV shows on the air. LIPSTICK JUNGLE - Turned it off after 10 min. From the writer of 3 Sex and the City episodes comes this? The opening narration, a news report cites our 3 main gals as achieving top spots in NYC's Power List, and the next nine minutes they are whining and insecure. Unbelievable. Women who get those positions in real life need to chomp men's balls off, not run around the house trying to get the kids off to school. "Oh, I was late this morning because I had to drop the kids off to school!" How original a setback. Why don't you go write some patter for the Academy's technical awards, you hack.

  • July 28, 2007, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Pushing Daisies

    by photoboy

    Just got to see this, and it's actually my favourite over Sarah Connor and Bionic Woman. It's got that quirky humour and unique story just like Wonderfalls, I hope it doesn't get cancelled right away like poor old Wonderfalls. While both Connor and Bionic felt like they had a larger story to tell, they didn't feel as satisfying as Pushing Daisies did. Still, I'll be catching all of them when they do air.

  • July 28, 2007, 1:51 p.m. CST

    What I thought of the pilots:

    by GregoryHarbin

    Pushing Daisies is fantastic. My entire family loved the pilot, and think it will be a great addition to ABC's already great schedule.<p> Bionic Woman I couldn't get through a couple minutes of, even with Starbuck being there. I'll probably try again before it airs, but for now, it's a dud in my mind.<p> Sarah Connor was great mostly because of Summer Glau, although Headey and Dekker do a great job as well. If the show continues as it is, I'll probably stop watching of boredom after a few episodes, but if it improves (see: Drive), then I'll be a big fan. I just hope it lasts more than 7 episodes.

  • July 28, 2007, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Kristin Chenoweth is in Pushing Daisies...

    by Christopher3

    She's a sexy midget.

  • July 28, 2007, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Damian Lewis's accent is so natural sounding...

    by Just Plain Steve

    ...and his most famous roles were as an american (Band of Brothers) that when I saw Dreamcatcher, my first reaction was "that guy's British accent is terrible." Turns out he is British! If you want to complain about American accents, watch a broadway play like Grease in London or turn on Dr. Who. Do you see this week's episode in New York? Every person there tried to sound like Joe Pesci and the guy playing "a southurn" has some off-the-wall accent that just sounded idiotic.

  • July 28, 2007, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Swearingen

    by Don Lockwood

    You know, you can debate where he was born and what kind of accent you think he had all you like, but that won't change the fact that he's not a "...Britishers doing American accents on American TV these days". THESE days, the show is still cancelled and the promised movies are probably not getting made.<p> Unless you're coming from some kind of Sliders universe where television executives are fair.

  • July 28, 2007, 3:15 p.m. CST

    PD was good

    by Eh Nam1313

    BW is okay, The girl is not hot but kinda boring too look at. PD is good and the SCC is okay but don't think it will last.

  • July 28, 2007, 3:18 p.m. CST

    None all that great

    by evebay39

    Pushing Daises is like a lost sub-plot from Burton's Big Fish and really tries waaaay too hard. Sarah Connor Chronicles was generic and not particularly interesting. Bionic Woman? Lead is a dreary character, her sister too melodramatic a back story - and tedious too. Looked like a bunch of holiday jobs for the BSG crowd. Some SFX was atrocious. Script AWOL. Really really bad. By this? The forced tweeness of Pushing Daises makes it the best of a bad bunch.

  • July 28, 2007, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Pushing Daisies pilot was sweet...

    by Christopher3

    Not like awesome, but sweet sweet. Not sure if it will be able to sustain that mood in the long run.

  • July 28, 2007, 5:18 p.m. CST

    I have no idea what will do well anymore but....

    by snife

    Bionic Woman is lame, I see it going the way of Painkiller Jane (nowhere)

  • July 28, 2007, 5:20 p.m. CST

    I have no idea what will do well anymore but....

    by snife

    Bionic Woman is lame, I see it going the way of Painkiller Jane (nowhere) Pushing Daisies was quite good, for some reason the style did remind me of Wonderfalls but the show just didn't have the same spark for me. I really enjoyed Terminator TSCC, it was fun and action packed but maybe i'd be happy watching anything for 40 minutes if Summer Glau is on screen.

  • July 28, 2007, 5:20 p.m. CST

    I'm just waiting for Ricky Gervais' ......

    by Kai_Mah'gra

    ......inevitable role on American TV as a guido from the Bronx. "I gots your Rico right here (clutches crotch)......youse........blokes". You know it'll happen. I think it's the least they can do, ..... after Americans set them John Goodman to play the King of the realm - I would be pissed too.

  • July 28, 2007, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Pushing Daisies

    by Gigolo Joe

    Everyone keeps saying this show rips off Tim Burton and Big Fish. I disagree. I think it actually rips off Amelie. Discuss.

  • July 28, 2007, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Pushing Daisies

    by Plum

    A little too much narration in the pilot, but that probably won't be a problem now that the basic premise of the show has been put across. Yes, the pilot was kind of an infodump, but when you're getting an infodump from Jim Dale, it doesn't hurt too much. Also, Swoozie Kurtz in an eyepatch owns you all. (That's 4 brilliant theater veterans in the show- Chenoweth, Dale, Kurtz, and Greene. I don't know whether to be thrilled or depressed.)

  • July 28, 2007, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Dresden Files is also a brit

    by doctor_gonzo

    The guy who stars in the Dresden Files is also a brit who fakes an American accent. Claudia Black was a guest on one episode doing an American accent, but she's Australian so maybe that doesn't count. Her fake accent is really good, maybe she just lost her accent for real.

  • July 28, 2007, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Bionic Woman would have been cooler if

    by EvilWizardGlick

    SPOILERS FUCKING SPOILERS!!!!!! <p> If the first episode consisted of her first mission intercut with her creation. <p> If they didn't add every overused device, like "we lost the baby" and the knife sticking out of the ground. <p> If the doc wasn't her bf but a guy who picked her up. He felt so guilty, and needed a guinea pig, that her remade her. Thus the love interest blooms overtime and no need for the extra blonde. <p> If the mugger had his arm shattered and not the weak assed fight it was. She did grab his arm with her bionic one. <p> If after the bullet she grabbed a nearby pen and hurled it back through the hole shattering Starbucks gun. <p> If Starbuck had flung the cigarette,bionic women shifts her head,and cigarette pops a link on the fence with a twang. <p> If the cgi was as good as heroes. <p> If the fight on the roof had been faster. <p> If there were no deaf sister. <p> The show was half good. Starbucks parts were worth it as were Mel Ferrers and Will Yun Lees. With any luck they will not underuse Lee. <p> The opening was weak. Chuck worked better for introduction. <p> At least they created a powerful nemesis in the beginning. <p> There needs to be more humor. Shows that are too serious die quick. <p> If they don't tune Bionic Woman up it's dead by episode six at the latest.

  • July 28, 2007, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Brits on the WIRE

    by EvilWizardGlick

    At least two Brits and an Irishman on the Wire. <p> Brit in Brotherhood. <p> Brit in Nip/Tuck. <p> How were those missed?

  • July 28, 2007, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Sappers Forward...

    by couP

    when did they say she (Bionic Woman) could lift a car? and it's not just her arm, it's both feet, right eye and right ear that have been bionicified; she can do a decent amount of damage. <p></p> I thought Bionic Woman was way better than TSCC, and with hot 18 year old replacing fat deaf sister (no offense to Ann from Arrested Development), it'll look even better. It's being re-worked, and it has the potential to be good.

  • July 28, 2007, 9:44 p.m. CST

    jamie bamber's dad is american

    by jccalhoun

    So he might be too. I know he was born in the UK but I'm not sure how it works if one of your parents is from the USA if that automatically makes you a US citizen or not.

  • July 29, 2007, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Bionic Woman

    by Anakin Whoopass

    Haven't seen anything yet, but I get the feeling that none of the things I love about the original show are present in the new one. Why does every show have to be dark and every character tormented? Action shows used to be a lot happier.

  • July 29, 2007, 5:35 a.m. CST

    seen only two

    by kenr

    sarah wasnt that good... SHOULD have been better considering it's terminator. the flow of the show was wierd. dont ask me to explain, it was just wierd. the 1st half was a near rip off of T2.... but with a little bit of changes... bad changes naturally. anyway, sarah & co have a mission... destroy SKYNET. again. hmmmm... sounds familiar, i wonder where they got that plot from? of course we all know they will fail... cause in T3 all hell breaks loose and john is a junkie.... bionic woman was much better but also need rooms for improvement. of course compared to the old series, this one looks very bleak and rebelious... more alias than anything i can think of. action sequence looks ok for TV. special effects should have been better. i dont know about you guys but her bionic eyes seem to bee stuck in low resolution most of the time. you think it would be running at 1080p at least.... the motion blur running in the woods? c'mon... you could have done better than that!it was like they took a 2d pic and motion blurred the hands and legs and moved it around the screen.

  • July 29, 2007, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Pushing Daisies A+, Sarah Connor B, Bionic Woman C-

    by no1ofimportance

    I really liked Pushing Daisies. It was cute, touching, quirky, and different than anything else on TV. I even liked the narration, although it would get real old, real fast if every age keeps getting told to the minute. I loved the characters, and especially the relationships. The parallels I see with Big Fish and Amelie are that they live in a storybook world that seems almost giddy. This Chuck is much cuter than NBC's. Since I liked it, ABC will cancel it after the 3rd episode, but I'll treasure the 6 episodes that got made. Sarah Connor was okay, but the rest of the series is set up to be different than the pilot in ways that I don't want to discuss because of spoilers (picture the pilot of Lost being about everyone in Australia and ending just as the plane is about to crash). I can't tell what the rest of the series will be like, but I like the actors and really enjoy Summer Glau. I hope it doesn't turn out to be just another remake of the Fugitive where each week they hit a new town, met friendly townfolk, find and defeat the terminator, and run off to the next town. However, it is a sci fi show on Fox starring a cast member from Firefly. With 3 strikes against it, Fox will pull it after the 2nd commercial break, promise to burn off the rest of the episodes in the future, reschedule 9 times, and eventually release them on the internet in 2014. Bionic Woman has potential, but it didn't really seem compelling. The bad guys and shady government characters seem a lot more interesting than the lead, and they'd be the reason if I watch it. It could live on for years on SciFi after NBC cancels, but it's probably too expensive. I agree with what EvilWizardGlick said was good, and I've read somewhere that they got rid of the deaf sister. I'm not an insider, so that could be wrong.

  • July 29, 2007, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Hmm

    by Volstaff

    Yeah like just about everyone else, Bionic Woman was the weakest. I enjoyed Chuck and Reaper the most,with Chronicles of Sarah Connor being watchable mainly because of Summer Glau. I hope that one does well. Out of those I think Chuck has the most potential to hold my interest for a whole season. The other three seem like they could end up being a one idea show.But I loved the guy who plays the devil in Reaper."Jack Black impersonator guy"? Eh, not so much.

  • July 29, 2007, 8:05 p.m. CST

    The thing about pilots...

    by _Maltheus_

    <p>...is that they're just pilots. They tend to be the weakest episodes in the series. So I can overlook some weaknesses.</p> <p>Although I loved Dead Like Me and Wonderfalls, they took a few eps to sink their hooks into me. Pushing Daisies got me right away. And I like the narration, it gave it a European feel for some reason. The casting is excellent as well. I'd be very disappointed if this one didn't last.</p> <p>Sarah Conner was good enough, despite having a Jericho feel of quality to it. And the chick playing Sarah just didn't do it for me. She just can't manage that borderline intensity that Hamilton got perfect. Summer Glau will keep me watching through a lot of crap though. Still, it would benefit from a smart producer capable of pointing out the stupid points in the scripts. And finding enough plot is going to be tough.</p> <p>Bionic Woman didn't seem as bad as a lot of people think here. It definitely had a pilot feel. They can recast the deaf chick, but the idea of her good. It sets her up for an implant. Starbuck's dialog during the fight was weak. Why is it so hard for Hollywood to simple hire a smart person to watch their stuff and then mark down every time they wince? In any case, I'll give this one a try too. It wasn't as good as Terminator, but I think it has greater potential in the mid to long run. Especially as it isn't owned by Fux.</p> <p>All three are good enough to check out for a few more eps. I'm happy about this upcoming season so far. And I think leaking these pre-airs was a good idea. No harm done and lotsa buzz generated.</p>

  • July 29, 2007, 9:01 p.m. CST

    in my opinion...

    by nalapou

    <p>Pushing Daisies 10/10... easily, sweet pilot with amazing burton-esque cinematography... could be an instant classic if the show doesn't get too bogged down by the procedural element. also clearly influenced by Stranger than Fiction, with the super methodically descriptive narrorator, awesome.</p> <br> <p>Reaper 9/10. Ray Wise friggin rules and hasn't missed a beat since playing Leland almost 2 decades ago. Just fun to watch. </p> <br> <p> Bionic Woman 8/10. Katee Sackhoff just rules and is the best part. The worst part is being recasted so no worries here. </p> <br> <p> Sarah Connor Chronicles 7/10. The gun in the leg was stupid and it does shit on the timeline,but I just love the Terminator story. I dont see it lasting though. </p> <br> <p> Cavemen 0/10. Probably the worst thing I've ever seen.

  • July 29, 2007, 9:59 p.m. CST

    WDMA?

    by lechero99

    ...

  • July 30, 2007, 12:31 a.m. CST

    Bionic Woman torrent

    by mascan42

    I hope the pilot I saw online wasn't the final version that's going to air. It was edited horribly, like they cut down a 2-hour premiere to 1 hour at the last minute.

  • July 30, 2007, 1:42 a.m. CST

    Sarah Connor Chronicles May not be great

    by Nabster

    The scene, however, with the Terminator ripping apart the bank door was pretty frackin cool. The story for the show as pedestrian, it seemed like a undercooked rehash of the previous movies, quite uninspired, and unexciting. Will it be canceled? I can see it surviving purely on the power of the franchise name. As bad as the show is, I know I will be there, my inner geek subjecting to me endless hours of bad entertainment.

  • July 30, 2007, 1:52 a.m. CST

    shows

    by Mr_X

    having seen only sarah connor cronicles and bioic women. id say scc is crap. bionic women mrore potential, i hope the pacing is better, i really dont want it tunring to a painkiller jane type series. good god. why did no one pick up the lost room. having been a fan of wonderfalls i'll check out pusshing daisies. and also reaper, even though i already hear good things about it. fuck you fox! your shows are crap, and you've eroded public confidence my cancelling great shows early

  • July 30, 2007, 3:03 a.m. CST

    The Pushing Daisies pilot is fantastic but...

    by Bungion Boy

    Sonnenfeld is a great director. I love many, even most of his films, especially The Addams Family and the first Men In Black, but I worry about the future of this show. He's not going to be there to direct every episode. I remember the pilot for The Tick, which he directed. It was amazing. One of the best and funniest things I had seen on tv. Then the rest of the show came on. It was good, but it was never as ingenius or inventive as the pilot. I hope the same thing doesn't happen to this because it was really fun. I could easily get into it.

  • July 30, 2007, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Sarah Connor plotholes

    by magnius

    In Terminator 3 we find out that Sarah died in 1997 of Cancer, yet the series starts of in 1999 and she's still alive! Also, in Terminator 3 we see the war start in 2004, yet in the series we are told that the war doesn't begin until 2011 and they jump to 2007 and no war has happened!! Are they going to explain these inconsistancies?

  • July 30, 2007, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Seen 'em all and...

    by Avert Therapy

    Why do people feel the need to compare everything to something else and then call it a rip off. Yes, Pushing Daisies is stylistically similar to Tim Burton or Amelie but it's not a facking rip off.<br /><br />My scores,<br />Pushing Daisies 8/10<br />Bionic Woman 8/10<br />Chuck 8/10<br />Reaper 7/10<br />Sarah Connor 6/10<br /><br /> A good crop I think. I really hope they can pull it together on the Sarah Connor Chronicles, it had a lot of promise but the production was all over the place.

  • July 30, 2007, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Connor plot inconsistencies

    by Avert Therapy

    I daresay 99% of people watching won't care.

  • July 30, 2007, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Ripping through the Bank Door (minor SCC spoiler)...

    by _Maltheus_

    ...was possibly even stupider than him smuggling a pistol back through time. I get that terminators are strong and all, but if they're that strong, then they'd disable each other within seconds in any hand to hand fight. It is a freakin' heavy duty bank vault after all. Now if he had called up his extensive files on safe cracking, I'd buy it. As for inconsistencies with the movies, I don't care too much. But if they don't smarten up the scripts a little, they may not keep me as a viewer for very long. Then again, it's Fox, so it'll probably be canceled long before I get the chance to judge.

  • July 30, 2007, 1:19 p.m. CST

    thought sarah connor was realy good

    by monster man

    as pilots go i thought it was realy good and for a tv show i thought the effects were ok. summer glau is bloody amazing as usual , and the story should be interesting now there in 2007 even if it does mess up the timeline im not bothered as long as its a good show. smallville messed up the whole superman timeline but thats still on.

  • July 30, 2007, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Sarah Connor

    by punto

    gets naked with that other chick (River from Firefly) on a time-travelling energy sphere. That's good enough for me.

  • July 30, 2007, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Could somebody string the H-K action in the Chronicles

    by kabong

    so I can just watch that stuff without the TEEN CRAP and SINGLE MOTHER CRAP.

  • July 30, 2007, 11:52 p.m. CST

    explanation for inconsistencies:

    by punto

    it's a tv show. also, if the chick robot came from the future _after_ Arnold kills John, she could modify it, and push back the date judgement day again. Eventually it'll so late that John will be too old to fight tho, so it could backfire.

  • July 31, 2007, 7:54 a.m. CST

    Kyle Reese

    by magnius

    Just wondering too...sholdn't Kyle Reese be around..at least as a toddler in 2007? He was supposed to have been born AFTER the nuclear war...so what happens now he was born before? If he is killed in the nuclear strikes will john cease to exist??

  • Aug. 3, 2007, 10:36 p.m. CST

    hello

    by grapefruitzzz

    Anastasia Griffith is Jamie Bamber's sister, by the way. Daisies - well-made but a little cute for me and Anna Friel's accent is slipping. Bionic Woman - liked Starbuck, Ryan not so much, haven't seen the remodel yet.

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