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Massawyrm Pronounces I NOW PRONOUNCE YOU CHUCK AND LARRY Dead On Arrival!!
Hola all. Massawyrm here.
I guess there comes a time in every generation when something becomes so widely accepted after a period of long term repression that it becomes time to make a comedy for the Archie Bunker types, to teach them an all too valuable lesson about the evils of their intolerance. You know, to break that final layer of ice before all the bigots go into hiding and make sure to look both ways and whisper before saying anything. You know, like Great grandmother did around all the (looking both ways) you know whats. And who better to send as an ambassador to that flag and cross crowd…than Adam Sandler.
I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry is the film that dares to say We're not gay. So NOT gay. In fact we are so not gay, we're gonna ogle Jessica Beil for like an hour. You wanna beer? I feel like I need a beer. Yeah, and I'll chase that down with some Jack Daniels straight from the bottle. Yup. So not gay. Dude, did I mention how not gay I was – so not gay that I tagged an entire shift crew at Hooters? All at once. Did I mention that? Yup. So not gay. But if I was, there'd be nothing wrong with that. So shut the fuck up bigot.
It's not the sheer obviousness of the agenda that's offensive. It is its seeming lack of sincerity about it. It's an incredibly shallow and pathetic attempt that feels more like Dude, this may be our last chance to make gay jokes …like ever. So we've gotta use them all. Every last one. And the result is some nuclear option gay joke extravaganza that feels obligated to utter the phrase Not that there's anything wrong with that after every single one-liner.
You want to convince me that you're serious about making a movie about acceptance and understanding? Then how about having a single, normal, non-flaming, not-ever-used-for-comedic-effect gay character? You know, someone who doesn't prance like a little girl or lewdly check out other dudes in the shower. Will and Grace did that for, what, ten years? While you were busy ripping off every other gay bit ever used (from pilfering Bosom Buddies to cribbing all the Joey/Chandler stuff from Friends), you couldn't watch a few episodes of that for some balance?
No, here every gay character is a terrible stereotype with zero depth. Because the movie isn't about being gay. It's about being straight and learning how intolerance affects those batting for the other side. And while there's nothing wrong with playing for that side, we're way over here. Batting for this team. The straight team. Dude, pass the beer and a porno mag. Hell there's even a moment where frat comedy god Adam Sandler himself turns to a roomful of people and (sounding almost depressed) says And don't use the word faggot anymore. That's a bad word. I know I used to use it a lot. But don't use it. Use it a lot? Dude, Adam, you built your entire fucking career on using that word. Or iterations there of.
Next time apologize in a movie that is a little less scattershot in its ideals. I mean, as much as they're trying to talk about sensitivity to sexual preference, they have yet another Rob Schneider bit part, this time as a bad Asian stereotype with thick cokebottle glasses that can't keep his L's and R's straight. I swear to god this character walked in right out of a WWII Warner Brothers cartoon. That's how out of bounds this thing was. Not that there's anything wrong with…oh wait.
So aside from the blatant sociological faux pas, how is it? Meh. The bulk of the film is tolerable. There are a few chuckles here and there, and the movie tends to play out like the lesser and most forgotten of the Adam Sandler comedies – but feels most akin to Big Daddy, which really had a heart but fell short of being anything worth remembering. Almost every last plot element feels oddly familiar and has been done better before. Hell, during the whole Adam Sandler/Jessica Beil I'd love you if you weren't gay/I wish I could tell you I'm not really gay subplot, all I could think was how much better I liked this story when it starred Neve Campbell and Matthew Perry and was called Three to Tango.
In fact I wouldn't actually despise this film if not for the last five minutes of it. There comes a moment in which Sandler and Kevin James are forced to kiss publicly, which causes the slo-mo Gross Out Cam, and then out of nowhere Dan Ackroyd comes in to hand deliver one of the lamest fucking endings I've seen in recent memory. He essentially delivers a turn that should have occurred at the beginning of the third act rather than five minutes from the credits rolling, so that everything has to be magically wrapped up through the power of everyone simply getting over it. Hey look, the movies over…yayyyyyy! But it is done in such a forced, contrived way that you're left sitting there repeating What the fuck? until it actually gets around to ending. And by that point Chuck and Larry has spent every last bit of goodwill it had, and you just don't care anymore.
And once the credits have rolled and you begin to reflect on the film, you notice that there is any number of ways this could have been made more interesting. Or daring. Instead, this is paint by numbers filmmaking, where even the jokes are predetermined based upon the concept.
This is exactly the type of comedy you expect to get dumped in the late July slot of the summer, a film that never seemed to get developed any further than the initial pitch. It's gonna grab for a big opening weekend, then die on word of mouth and end up totally forgotten by fall. I can't in good conscience recommend this film to anybody but the most slavish of Adam Sandler completists. It's really just not worth it.
Until next time friends, smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em.
Massawyrm
Alright, alright. You guys demanded it and ole Massa delivers! Safe for work man love. Enjoy some Harry on Massa action right there in the privacy of your own cubicle.
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sounds awful
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Sometimes one can tell just by the title that a premise is not going to be appraoched cohesively.
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this movie looks horrible, so I'm sure it will make a ton of money.
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...that the pic there at the bottom of the review was chosen specifically? If not, irony and hilarity abounds.
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Doesn't Massawyrm hate everything he's ever seen anyways? Hum
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sorry
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I had kind of thought there might have been a chance that this would be somewhat entertaining. Oh well. Guess I'll just watch Grandma's Boy again. Hands down, the funniest movie I've seen in YEARS. Yeah, you heard me. GRANDMA'S BOY.
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I dragged my girlfriend to see Transformers, which we both disliked intensely. Now it's her turn to pick a movie, I think she wants to pick a film only she will like to get revenge. Hopefully I can get her to read this and be detered, thanks
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I mean you just named two characters from that show but that doesn't mean you were a fan. Throw me a line here- I'm all lost and confused.
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You should see more movies if thats the funniest thing you've seen in years.
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Jul 18, 2007 10:22:56 AM CDT
Dear God-a comedy starring Adam Sandler is not funny?!
by rocklobster800
What is the world coming too!?!?! Ohh....wait...yeah, he's never funny...yet you know people are going to go to this shit, it'll reap in enough box office to warrant not kicking Sandler's hatred inducing face out on the street where it belongs. God, I hate that guy....well, not him personally, but the fucker has yet to make me laugh once. Not even in Punch Drunk Love. He just reminds me of all the tasteless, brainless twats I knew in school who deemed him genius and quoted the waterboy day and night.....
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Most of my gay friends ARE like, "Dude, hand me a beer and a porno mag." Some of them are pretty macho too. This movie is just an elaboration on stereotype.
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When I saw the trailer for this movie in a packed theater, I just cringed. The Rob Schneider character absolutely disoriented me, like I was sucker-punched by a World War II propaganda movie. I'll just download all of Jessica Biel's scenes, thanks.
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Because it seems like two strait guys who pretend to be married. I hope it's not like the last 6 minutes of Family Ties and we get some, pardon the pun, fruity message at the end. Wouldn't dig too deep on this plot. Just bend over and take it for what it is.
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Jul 18, 2007 10:28:03 AM CDT
Jimmy Fallon and Martin Lawrence in Y Tu Mama Tambien!
by spandau belly
Coming soon! Only it will be retitled to 'N Yo Mama!'
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NOT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT, HAR HAR HAR! Sorry for the bad joke, but I'm working on the sequel where everyone exposes Chuck & Larry as being not gay, and they get into so much trouble for cheating our poor insurance companies out of money. The working title is called "Chuck & Larry Go Down!", but we might change that to "Chuck N Larry in the Slammer", because they go to jail. So many buttfucking jokes in jail, America will love it!
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therefore i WILL laugh at them in this!
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Jul 18, 2007 10:39:06 AM CDT
Did You actually need to sit through this to find that
by hitchcock'n'balz
Couldn't you tell from the awful fucking trailers that this was gonna suck bigtime...not that there's anything wrong with that...
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Waitress, Sicko, Grindhouse, and the Host, and probably ever movie nominated for Best Picture this year in one weekend. America loves shit.
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thats it Im out of here....and Im slamming the door on the way out!
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This remake will feature all the courtroom speeches done in rap.music by Dr. Dre featuring The Village People
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There was nothing funny in the previews...and that's when they're supposed to show the 'best' stuff. Nothing that hadn't been seen before, for free, on network tv. And how long have foreign comedies been covering this stuff, anyways?
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will make $25 mill the first weekend and more than that on DVD. Because nothing is funnier than gay people. Execpt this movie has none....wait a minute?
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intolerence of other people and queers.
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The world's first megabudget gay action movie.
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90 minutes spent making fun of gays and then a speech at the end saying it was wrong to make fun of gays.
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were megabudget gay action movies...not that there is anything wrong with that
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Name me a funnier movie from the last 5 years and I'll call you a liar. Go ahead.
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was if some skinheads beat Kevin James to death at the end while raping Sandler.
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You like Adam Sandler.
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Are there any left? They should have just made 2 hours of J.B. walking around a flat in her underwear. That would get 4/5 stars.
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but the obvious recent funny movie would be Borat. If you think Grandma's Boy is funnier than Borat you're fucking insane.
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Borat (the character) was funny for about 10 minutes two years ago. The movie sucks Grandma's Boys balls...
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And I'm fucking insane. Grandma's Boy is far funnier than Borat, which was really just an amusing updated Candid Camera skit that was dragged painfully out into a 90 minute film.
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Are you saving the fifth star for 2 hours of JB walking around a flat *out* of her underwear? ;^)
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. . . but you seem to be rolling w/ this review on a little too much bottled up steam and anger. It really bugs met that Sandler's flicks are magnets to so many macho, frat boy, meatheads, because, as someone who's been watching him since Remote Control, I think he is funny and talented. Not that he's put out anything good in quite some time. He hasn't really needed to. He only needs to get is face on the screen again and the mouth breathers just flock on in. Still, to his defense, please give me example of how he built his entire career using the word faggot. That's a HARSH statement. All that said, the only thing worse than this horid, mind-numbing flick will be seeing its opening weekend box office numbers.
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Watch as cars flip over and buildings explode on this high budget jump-cutting whizbang journey to self discovery. Featuring Denzel Washington in the RuPaul role.
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Thanks, Massawyrm. This seemed like a "accepting gay-ness" movie for beer-guzzling, chest-thumping ultra-heteros, so I'm glad you gave us the lowdown... that it is.
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Massawyrm knows the difference between your and you're. Too bad a lot of you do not.
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tell me now, because fuck if i'm going to go see this. great review, massawyrm.
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To get the hostage takers to surrender.
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C'mon dude, you aren't gay - we get it, stop making an ass of yourself on every talkshow you go to promote this movie, everytime playing all nervous and scared of "the gay"... I would equally or way more scared of people watching Hitch or your stand-up DVD.
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It's inpenetrable.
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"Will and Grace" as an example of "regular" homo's? Oh, wait, the neighbor (or whoever he was) was the most flaming thing to hit the small screen that I've ever seen. Also, I think that gayness is GROSS (in terms of men especially). I also think the things that sanitation workers do are gross, but it doesn't mean I hate them for doing it. Finally, what is it with "homophobia". "Phobia" is a suffix designating fear, and I don't think it is apt in this case. Of course defenders of the term and detractors of myself will probably acuse me of fearing my own latent homosexuality, but whatever. Most straight guys don't care for gayness (except for hot lesbians, of course)...deal with it.
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Stupid Adam Sandler. Why the hell isn't he doing something WORTHWHILE with Apatow? Aside from that other horseshit about the hairdresser. Aren't they friends? Is Sandler that greedy? He could show up for a bit part and KILL in any of Apatows movies. You ever see his part in Undeclared? He'd be perfect for them. Instead he does nothing but crappy, crappy star vehicle movies. Time to man up dude.
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I meant impenetrable. Either way.
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Massawyrm dislikes a movie...? I would have never thought this was possible.
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Adam Sandler's old stuff is funny as hell, Kevin James ruled on King of Queens... and if you don't think Borat was funny you're probably not intelligent enough to see the satire in it, and yes I watched it on HBO also so the movie wasn't brand new, but still AWESOME
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"to break that final layer of ice before all the bigots go into hiding and make sure to look both ways and whisper before saying anything"
What the hell? This reminds me of the comparison between black people and gay people. Black people had that "traditional" final layer of ice they needed to break in order for the bigots to run and hide. Now, gay people have one too? It seems like at EVERY DAMN CORNER, gay people are trying to compare their struggles to black struggles...and it's completely idiotic and disrespectful to every black person in America. Black people are people. They are not defined by their sexuality, they're defined by their humanity! But gay people define themselves by their sexuality and then want to use their humanity as an excuse to bend the laws over and fuck them! And, for the last time, some people against homosexuality are against it because of some inner fear, but a lot of people (ie your average person) is against it because of conviction, something that used to mean a hell of a lot in every damn Civil Rights struggle. Should we ignore their convictions or, even worse, deride them? -
That is the biggest joke of all.
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This review sums up every Sandler movie that's ever been made. Funny, sometimes with sophmoric humor and sometimes with heart but the endings always suck. They never find an intelligent or at least creative or original way to end the movies other than some public display of "...oh, that's OK" movies over everybody. Check em' out. Big Daddy - court room. Billy Madison - absurd academic competition. Mr. Deeds - stock holder meeting. Anger Mangement - Yankee stadium. Always a public display of emotion.
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And laugh at Eddie Murphy's bigotted comic stylings?
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a little?
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I hope not.
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because you are whining about how unfairly portrayed gay people are in this movie.
Actually, I think it is supposed to demonstrate the ignorance of the majority. Most people think that gay people are exactly like they are portrayed. It shows that "Chuck and Larry" are the idiots. It shows that the people that go and see this and laugh at the stereotypes, are idiots. This movie is just like Borat in the sense that it is poking fun at US. It is one persons interpretation of the majority. -
thanks for the confirmation, massa. this thing looks so terrible in so many ways -- no wonder the studio held onto it to release in the deepest part of summer, when it will surely be ignored in favor of much better fare. let it die quickly and silently.
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have you tried it, ThreeOranges? 'cuz if you haven't, you can't really say (and yes, i've had sex with a woman, and that IS icky -- gimme man sex any day).
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that the ONLY reason I want to see this is for the scene of Jessica Biel in her bikini/panties or whatever she had on in the trailer.
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I'd cringe because there'd be 10-15 guys (and gals) around me laughing their asses off and giggling like teenagers at all the early 80's humor. Look at how funny Rob Schneider's 'asian' character is...OMG Kevin James sliding down that ladder is hilarious...Kevin James' boxers are huge...Do people really still find any of those jokes funny? This movie would have been great in 1972 and it's shocking that a studio would greenlight it today.
Anyone who finds this move funny has got to be retarded - and not the good kind of retarded. As retarded as those who tried to convince me that Transformers was the best movie of the summer. Best spectacle maybe but far form a good movie. One more thing. How the hell does Alexander Payne have a writing credit on this film? Could someone please explain this to me? I know studio's regularly butcher scripts but I can't imagine the script Payne turned in as being anywhere near the dreck on screen. Say it ain't so...the writer of Election, About Schmidt and Sideways wrote this?? -
...how should gay people go about getting equal rights in a way that doesn't offend you & your convictions?
Can't say I've heard a helluva lot of gay people co-opting the black struggle...and I've been on a lot of street corners.
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You Actually spent some of your time to watch it?
Why not just ignore it?
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I love billy madison!
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I'm going to attemp to do somthing constructive. I'll suggest another film to waste your time watching.
Try - Fantasic Four (2005) Rifftrax.com version.
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The minute I heard about this wretched flick I thought sounds lame. Apparently I was right.
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others, not who I choose to fuck.
Intolerance is intolerance and hiding behind it (conviction) makes it no less wrong. People used passages in the Christian Bible to endorse slavery. Using your own arguement, they had conviction. -
But there's nothing wrong with that (farts, scratches nuts and opens a beer with nothing but my teeth).
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What the fuck was wrong with Knocked Up?
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not that there anything wrong with being gay, but this movie looked gay from the moment the first trailer hit, and not even jessica biels "assets" would get me to see this, the humour looks all lame uptight and yuppie, with a twist of being labeleed as an outrageous comedy that dare to go where others won't...adam sandler should go back to making poo jokes and leave all this family man, post 911 crap behind
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Now that was a funny ass film.
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Even if she hadn't taken a dump in 2 weeks on a strict diet of Taco Bell.
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"You cant catch me gay thoughts"
Next summer Adam Sandler will star as a jewish man who falls in love with a women who's secretly a nazi who secretly is transgenered and gay (not that there's anything wrong with that). Look for Rob Schnieder as a Jewish Hitler impersonator!
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The trailer was horrible, it looked bigoted from the get go, and not it will be (hopefully) doomed as one of the worst movies of the summer. Adam Sandler is not a god, but where was Kevin James in your review Massawyrm? He's just as much to blame for this.
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...because it's a blatant rehash of the amusing Australian comedy, Strange Bedfellows. Though many people disliked it, there are few (if any) cheap shots at the gay community and the fundamental message (probably the wrong choice of words there) is that guys don't have to be gay to actually care about each other. This load of bollocks looks like it tries to preach with one face and take the piss with the other. I strongly suspect this this thing will go DTV outside the US...
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what the hell is this being compared to Borat for? Borat was sharp, albeit easy, but still real. It had an intelligence to it. This has no intelligence to it. It's dumb. There's a reason why this will get slammed by critics and Borat was hailed. Borat had a motive and was satire. This is trite, and blows. No underlying layer to this one. You get what you see.
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I appreciate the review, and I'm sure I'd agree with your assesment, were I to actually see this shitfest.buuuut...ironically, your last 2 avatars have been humorous representations of you having sex with Harry. which I'm assuming we're meant to be laughingly grossed out by, right?you see where I'm going with this, yeah? homophobia in it's most latent terms is always around, especially where cheap laughs are concerned...
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I will see this just for her, so SUCK IT.
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There, I said it. I even cry at the end. Every time.
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I know what you mean seeing Payne connected to this. Being directed by Dennis Dugan, how could this be in any way subtle or intelligent? He's as subtle as a baby seal club...which is fine for a movie that didn't have a brain in it's head like Happy Gilmore, but thats about it.
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Jul 18, 2007 1:14:04 PM CDT
kevin james is awesome at playing a fat guy who falls
by automation overlord
he does it in everything he does, number one rule of comedy: a fat guy falling or hurting himself equals comedy gold
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I had seriously moist eyes at the end of Click too my friend. But then again I did at the end of Armageddon, and My Girl, and John Q. I am so gay for a straight guy.
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I might be dissapointed but it could be worse.... Worse like White Chicks, when the Wyans brothers put prosthetics and went on to do the absolute worst performance of stereotypical white behavior on film since Beauty Shop. There's nothing like seeing a group of people being demeaned and acting out in horrible stereotypical behavior, to me there is nothing worse. I don't know how you could even talk actor into doing that to themselves. If your not sure what I'm talking about go out and rent or netflix Beauty Shop,the Barber Shop spin off with Queen Lahtifa,Andie McDowell and the queen of the horrible stereotypes Alicia Silverstone. I swear to you this movie will make you sick to your stomach. All the races in that film are made to look like bufoons
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I like Billy Madison because it seemed like a movie version of his albums. Completely stupid, off-the-wall and random. None of his later movies seemed to quite get that feel.I also like Punch Drunk Love and absolutely love his performance in that movie. He needs to get back together with P.T. Anderson or make the long-rumored Tarantino hook-up happen.Sandler gives a great, even Oscar worth performance, given the right director. He always reflects who's directing him perfectly.
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who really cares about the gay thing. the movie just doesn't look funny. Surprised the politically correct police haven't said anything about Schneider's Charlie Chan impression. And Biel, omg is she gorgeous, but she complains that she's not getting roles like Scarlett Johansen. Well, 1) stop doing movies like this where you're just shaking flesh the whole time at a dufus like Sandler, and 2) sleep with the right producer.
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its really just the only choice she's got to get ahead, she should totally show us the goods
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Amen. Maybe there's an out take somewhere of her getting into or out of that catwoman outfit.
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Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Jul 18, 2007 1:43:03 PM CDT
Sometimes I just wanna go to a movie to be entertained
by neil mccauleys crew
and looks like this movie won't do that!
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guy that makes faces & yells and guy that makes faces & yells.
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We all have many types of convictions, some indoctrinated by our parents and churches from a young age, others learned and adhered to overtime. I am half black and I'm gay, and I can tell you that the comparison to the gay rights struggle and the struggle of African Americans in the history of this country [USA] is more then just comparison. The issue isn't about defining oneself depending on who we sleep is, the issue is seeking rights as adult people in a country that supposedly gives us the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. In the days of segregation, blacks were shunned by a majority of whites who waived the Bible in their defense. We know what happened, riots ensued and after many years of marching, campaigning, abuse, neglect and hundreds of thousands of deaths, we finally won our freedom and the right to be seen as equal people in a country that boasts equality for everyone. Now, in 2007, as a man that is attracted to other men, I do not have those rights. I cannot marry unless I live in Massachusetts, Civil Unions are quite scarce. I am looked at by the moral majority and they waive their collective fingers at me and say "we don't care if you believe what we believe, but our theology is the right one, and you have to do what we say, no matter who you marry. No marriage for you!" That is not my America! You generalized all of us so flippantly in your post. You are what's wrong with this country.
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and Rob Schneider too. That's all the commentary I feel I need to provide. They suck eternally.
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agreed, there must have been a camera rolling sometime when she was getting changed, they should put that on the dvd, or give us her address so we can sneek into her house and jerk off onto her toothbrush
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God...Sandler's just the worst thing ever. I'll never get how this dude has a legion of fans. All his comedies are just dumb, unfunny, mean-spirited and lazy.
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just kidding~God why can't this guy grow-up (at least from an acting standpoint)
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That's HILARIOUS! Rob's stereotypical Asian character dis-Oriented you . . . howls of derisive laughter, Bruce!
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Gay jokes will never go out of style.
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Actually . . . most of us do want to ignore the last 30 years of feminism. Thanks for the tip . . . I had no intention of seeing the movie before, but now it sounds like it has something for everyone. Yay
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"This movie looks horrible, so I'm sure it will make a ton of money." That one line says it all about the state of American moviegoing today.
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Dude, I totally get where you're coming from. But what's funny (and gross) about the above picture isn't that it is any two guys having sex, or some random guy making sweet love to ole Massawyrm. What's funny (and gross) is that it is Harry giving me the old heave ho. The image of me and Harry in the midst of a passionate embrace...well, it'll turn a gay guy straight.
In the words of Slappy Squirrel: Now that's comedy.
Besides, I don't draw the pictures. I just pick the avatar most appropriate for any given film. Honestly, can you think of another, more appropriate avatar? -
think up another term for homsexuality besides "gay," so that its not offensive when we say that something is really gay?
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You don't even mention how smokin' Jessica Biel is in your review, irrelevancy aside.
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i used to don my gay apparel every night, but now that word has a whole new meaning, but its cool and for the record, i call stuff gay all the time, its not a slander at homosexuals, its just a fun word to say, kinda like jew or cunt
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.."We're all a little gay".Amen.
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Even in the preview they show the smoking buns. That being said, this movie shall be shit. Sandler, Schnieder, and that other tubby tit are not, nor were they ever, funny.
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You tell a woman you love her bathing suit and mean her bathing suit.
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You've read the book, seen the movie, AND done the musical.
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anyone with me?
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Andy Dick is an obnoxious moron and not funny. Jon Lovtiz gave Andy Dick his long time overdue just deserts. As for Adam Sandler; he used to be funny, but he's lost it.
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I believe the word is "felch". And I would.
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I read he slammed his face into a bar multiple times! Jon Lovitz = Hero!
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I get the first half of your post, the second half; not so much. Help me out.
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...take the blinders off, and start using your brain.
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...than the fact that this film will make a ton of cash, is the fact the Elwood Blues is in it. Never mind Steve Martin, anyone remember when Dan Aykroyd was funny?
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is HETEROSEXUAL. So forget the 'butt-sex is icky' bullshit. Most butt-sex is straight butt-sex. And anyone who don't think women have poop up their asses is a fucking idiot. They do. The men who think gay sex is revolting are the men who think men are revolting are the men who think that they themselves are revolting. You can't really love yourself until you camn see the beauty in other men, even if it's just on an aesthetic, non-sexual level. I have het men who can appreciate that other men look good, chiseled, handsome strong; they are usually ones who like themselves and look good; it's the fat-asses, couch-potatoes, farters, dandruff-heads and drunks who are the most 'ewww' about gays, and well they might be, with the way they act and look.
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they'll be telling us that that creature from the movie Alien was gay, no no no wait they'll say John Wayne is gay, yeh he and Rock Hudson used to have gay sex parties all the time.
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***That is not my America! You generalized all of us so flippantly in your post. You are what's wrong with this country.***
Thank you. Your post said everything I was thinking. Adam Sandler is a moron. He wants to be taken seriously as an actor? Stop making crap fart jokes and like... be a real comedian... fucking moron.
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You just spent fifteen minutes jerking off to that picture of Harry poling Massawyrm. And, you listen to Coldplay.
BTW, if you're going to be righteously indignant about stereotyping homosexicles, then don't, whatever you do, don't use "Will and Grace" as you're example of how comedy can be funny w/o resorting to stereotypes. Jack is about as over-the-top as you get, and you saw him every episode! -
Part II - Monty Python reference . . .
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stuff bugs them..except when its two chicks..heheheh...Are there any women who enjoy male gay porn?
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i sleep with men.
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if you don't want people defining themselves by who they sleep with, then you shouldn't define them by who they sleep with.
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It will probably make a good amount of money but it looks fucking stupid.
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I'm a straight, Black male and I think Monte Cristo is way off base (and a bit self-righteous as well). I think homosexuals by and large tend to define themselves by their sexual preference because that is the basis upon which they are subjected to discrimination. I'm sure there is a lot more to any homosexual individual than their sexuality, just as there is more to you or me than the fact that we are Black. But since we have been discriminated against because we are Black, we as a people have banded together on the basis of our race to fight discrimination, hence the civil rights movement. In that sense, the struggles of the gay community have been similar to those of the Black community. Of course they are many differences as well (for example, most Black people cannot hide the fact that they are Black), but I think your tirade because of the comparison was unwarranted.
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Dude, that word is so annoying. Seriously, dude. Dude.
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it's time to reread for context. I never said you shouldn't use ANY gay stereotypes for comedy. I said that when you're making a movie with this kind of theme, it is important to at least have ONE normal, average, everyday homosexual. Will & Grace, which I used as an example, juxtaposed flamers with normies all the time. It was the thrust of the comedy. This movie aims to say "Hey, you know it is totally okay to be a leatherclad, assfucking fairy. Show some respect."
I've had a lot of gay friends in my life. Not a one of them acted like the homosexuals in this film. Kind of hard to take this kind of commentary serious when they treat an entire cross section of citizens as one giant stereotype. All I'm saying. -
Sorry dude.
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I never said the word black. You said Black. While the plights of every group that has had to fight for rights in this country has been different, one thing is always the same. The Bigots. When blacks fought for their rights, I'm certain many drew parallels with womens sufferage. And I imagine bigoted women at the time screamed about how different that was as well.
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Dude.
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which is what mainstream America believes is good humour. put a gun to my head and paint the walls with my brains was what I believe Ed Norton said in Fight Club. as for the whole homosexual (that's a fun word to say, if you emphasize the 'x' in it) "You can't really love yourself until you camn see the beauty in other men" HAHAHAH what? okay, I get along with homosexual people just fine, but I really hate it when SOME OF THEM (not all of them, so don't accuse me) have this attitude that since they're gay or whatever, they don't understand why (for example) I am not attracted to guys. then they try to convince me that I am gay, which is ridiculous. it's just kind of annoying, and it usually from the gay people who really like being the flamboyant obnoxious ones. I'm just saying, that offends me as a straight guy. just pointing that out, I'm not here to start some shit, just something that bugs me. oh, and to slone13, watch The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou. maybe dry humor isn't your thing, but it's not hard to get better than Grandma's Boy, which is like the deleted scenes of an Adam Sandler movie compiled into a really lame, overdone laughreel...okay. some parts were okay. like "you're shit's WEAK!" during the Halo tourney. alright, I'll leave now.
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Does for gay people what Roots did for black people. Think about it!
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yeah the trailer left me offended. first thing we see is that punching a dude in the face is the 'straight' reaction to the prospect of said dude going to kiss you? that is fucked. "hey man, don't kiss me" seems like it'd work ok. at least we get the hilarious catch phrase that is sweeping the nation, "that's how i roll" for good measure right after, just in case the violence-against-gays humor doesn't do it for ya
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...um dude, I've NEVER had a gay guy try to tell me I'm gay. If this happens to you on a regular basis, honey...I might begin asking questions.
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Thanks. I love Monty Python, but not in an own-everything-recite-every-sketch kind of way. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Will you be my boyfriend?
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You've found your way back into my good graces. Don't fuck it up.
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it was the original Will & Grace. one normal gay, one flaming faggot, one blue collar and one successful bar owner. great show!
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i liked the script by payne/taylor and had been looking forward to this but it's hard to argue with this review. haven't seen the film yet but it sounds like massa's spot-on. too bad, because sandler has really been in a comedic slump as of late. (who actually saw Click?) at least he can fall back on his reign o'er me laurels. glad to hear kevin james is good though. i always liked him on king of queens and he was pretty good in hitch, too. what sandler needs to do (and is doing, I suppose) is screw his family-friendly image and do an R-rated Apatow comedy. Now Sandler co-wrote Don't Mess With the Zohan with Apatow and Robert Smigel. Read it the other day and though it was pretty funny, although the jokes were a little on the juvenile side. If they took that idea and made it the comedy a little more adult in nature, it'd be a real return to form for the Sandman.
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Keep 'em comming.
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did Awesome-O get screen credit for the script?
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...Gay AICN'ers unite... Boycott Chuck and Larry because seriously - A movie about fire-fighters "pretending" to be gay.... yeah... pretending... right.
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Hell, my best friend is homosexual, but whoever said that many gay men insist on the homosexuality of other men who identify themselves as straight is right, generally speaking. My best friend and I (after he came out of the closet) would be walking around the mall when he'd randomly start pointing out the overwhelming majority of young males, saying "he's gay, he's gay, he's definitely gay," etc. It's pretty jarring. One of my roommates in my freshman year of college was gay and he brought fuck buddies over quite a bit (we shared a two room apartment for four people; I lucked out and roomed with a straight guy...the poor bastard who was stuck with the gay one had horror stories about the sheer lack of consideration on the homosexual guy's part when it came to having sex ALL THE TIME), and his gay friends also had this strange way of assuming that most straight guys were gay (one went so far as to say "90% of guys are gay; they just don't know it yet." And, quite frankly, it is annoying. I'm not saying all homosexuals do this, but several of the ones I've known are this way (and he's right when he says the ones who are 'flaming' are the ones who do this). I have a few gay friends who actually act just like straight guys (well, one of them seems a bit gay due to the tone of his voice, but other than that he definitely isn't a walking stereotype). Anyway, I don't know where I'm going with this. This flick looks mediocre, although Jessica Biel is a goddess. Still, I won't see this, maybe netflix it later or something.
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...have to do with gay rights?
Women nor gays had to go through what blacks did.
Women and blacks did not try to bend the law so that that they could marry someone of the same sex.
It's different! -
Andy Dick is a shitheel and got what he deserved! "Here, Andy, let me wipe the bar with your face! WHAM! WHAM! WHAM! Let's hear your bullshit about Phil and the kid from 'Suddenly Susan' again, laughing boy!" Ah, if only Nichelle Nichols or George Takai could have broken a chair over his head at the Shatner roast...missed opportunities.
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Women and Blacks had to bend the law to be free! It is NOT different.. You're just a fuckin idiot.
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As said above, it was what passed for a big news story in Australia.
Michael Caton appeared in the movie "Strange Bedfellows" with Paul Hogan, he gave a copy to Rob Schneider when they appeared together in "The Animal", now we get this film. Apparently "Strange Bedfellows" is about 2 firemen who pretend to ... yes, well you get the picture. -
Wow. That's brillant Awesome-O. Keep em coming.
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But kindly leave your self rightous morality off the rest of us. And pick up some bandaids. You'll need them for your knuckles when you go walking.
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vague and temporary comradery is a rare thing in this place, so yeah. you ruel. and no Massawyrm, it's only happened a few times. I don't hang out with THAT many gay people, it's just been at parties and stuff I've been to. and see? that's what I'm talking about, what you just did! but I'm 100% straight, have a wonderful girlfriend, and intend on keeping it that way. yeesh. and deadshot07? unfortunately for you, there is no checking option on here, hey Harry, roll off of Yoko and GIVE US OUR CHECKING OPTION! I kid...I hope you guys are happy. but that's another talkback. hah hah...tiger suit.
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is funny, no matter what. it just is! and to a lesser extent skinny guys getting hurt is too (see the underrated Nacho Libre). but yeah, Adam Sandler is actually the best part of Reign Over Me, a real clusterfuck of a movie. not that it gives him an excuse to make movies like this, but he's not as horrible as people make him out to be.
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action. Whats the point if there is no ass to mouth in this movie. And they touch a girls tittie in this? Yuck!
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Whether or not you agree with Monte Cristo, Monte Cristo is entitled to voice his (or her) opinion without being subjected to hateful ridicule and name calling. It is certainly within Monte Cristo's rights to believe as he does. He, like all other talkbackers here, is simply stating his opinion in a public forum. If you disagree with his opinion, fine. Where is written that he has to agree with yours? What is the point of calling him names? How does insulting someone, over a difference of opinion, accomplish anything other than highlighting ones' own ignorance?
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First Stomp the Yard and now this!!!
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but that review was very VERY gay.
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If you ever found his schtick amusing, here's a tip: save your money and take your date to the nearest State University frat house on a Saturday night. When the brain dead denizens of said snake pit are on their tenth shot of Jaeger and have proceeded to grope your girlfriend and have puked on your shoes, you will get a taste of Sandler's brand of HI-larity. The only reaction that smirking loudmouth ASSHOLE has gotten from me is the overwhelming urge to take a baseball bat to his fucking face. Why, oh why do people find him amusing? When I saw those scenes in the trailer of him ogling Jessica Biel, the only words that came to my head was DATE RAPE. I wanted to drag her out of the room and cover her up from his toxic leer. He's gone from annoying to malevolently creepy. He's fucking Pennywise.
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IF ANYONE OUT THERE (PRESUMABLY SOME OF YOU AMERICANS WATCH FILMS OTHER THEN THE ONES MADE IN THE US OF A ) HAS SEEN STRANGE BEFELLOWS , A NICELY MADE AUSSIE FILM, WILL NOTICE THE EXACT SAME STORY LINE. NOT LITTLE BITS THE SAME. MAJOR BITS THE SAME. IT WOULD BBE NICE FOR HOLLYWOOD AT SOME POINT IN TIME TO START COMING UP WITH ORIGINAL SCRIPTS AND NOT REHASHED MATERIAL OR SEQUELS. FURTHER EXAMPLES - ROMPER STOMER AND AMERICAN HISTORY X, PRECILLA QUEEN OF THE DESERT - TOO WONG FOO. ETC ETC ETC
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The name sounds like a kind of disease you get when you have gay buttsecks! Thank You and Good night!
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Seinfeld yet?? The episode where the college journalist thinks Jerry and George are gay. Theres actually a running joke "...not that theres anything wrong with kind of thing". Larry David must be seething...
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...when Sandler taught a six-year-old to throw sticks in the path of skaters, causing them to take a nasty tumble on the pavement? Not as offensive as the trailer for this shit-pile.
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Because he's attracted to men. But, who the fuck cares who he or anyone else sleeps with? Really, how fucking ridiculous is that?
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Thats really all i have to say.
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Gay movies pretty much stink because (1)most guys DON'T want to watch 2 gay guys going at it OR want to be preached at for 2 hours about how being gay is great and that anyone who doesn't think so is a moron and a caveman.You know... sorta like Massa's review does.
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We weren't claiming that the Australian movie was original, just that this American movie has copied not just its basic premise but also more specific attributes of its plot. Is that two firemen I see on the cover of the Australian movie? One played by an actor who then co-starred with Rob Schneider? To whom he gave a copy of the Australian film to?
In other news, I believe the makers of The Island had to settle with the makers of "Parts: The Clonus Horror" because it was so blatantly obvious they lifted the entire plot and copied every major event in the film.
How hard would it be to just pay for the rights in the first place? It wouldn't cost them more than $1,000,000 and save them all this trouble. -
what a lot of the moral majority wants, an America that gives freedom to people dependent upon who is deserving of the freedom, also dependent upon their understanding of age old divine texts. Montecristo seems to think that because he 'believes' that what gays do or who they are is wrong that we should be subjects to his belief, and because a lot of people believe the same way, it must be right. DON'T GET ME WRONG, Montecristo has every right to state his opinion, I never said he didn't. I will say this, if you make bigoted and prejudiced statements, be prepare to reap the consequences of such statements. I will also concede to the above poster, this is about Freedom, and not rights, I very much agree.
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...and intend on keeping it that way"
REEKING of insecurity. Real heterosexual men never have to say this stuff.
Check this.
http://achewood.com/index.php?date=03282007
Now that's a REAL man, I mean, cat.
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Really. It was good to read something with a little depth here. Kudos.
And if you want to see gay characters handled well, check out the Canadian flick "Better Than Chocolate" for it's portrayal of lesbians who are just being lesbians. Nothing kooky. No bad taco/clam/pussy jokes. It's a good film that just happens to have gay characters.
And I second the feeling for "But I'm A Cheerleader."--- It's obviously an attempt at a John Waters homage, but it's got a heart that can't be missed, and approaches homosexuals in a comedy without being terribly insuting-- Not to mention it's probably the only time you'll ever see Bull from Night Court (Richard Moll) playing a big gay bear. Funny stuff. -
You lot are all having big ass homosexuality arguments in a talkback for a GODDAMN ADAM SANDLER FILM!!!!
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If its a blatantly gay film its a cliche sign of the times if the film is a straight film prentending to be gay its a sad statement on biggoted views etc..etc... The fact that adam sandler is in it is tangential at best or possibly pivotal. I give this a MEH.
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...it just sounds funny
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I saw a screening of this and it was really fuckin funny, its Sandlers best movie since Big Daddy, maybe better. So it was insensitive, thats not why you watch these types of movies, it made me laugh and I was entertained. Thats all I ask for...
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the trailer really sucked compared to the movie, it makes it look retarded
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Whod'a thunk it?
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sounds brilliant. i was apathetic about this film. until that mature, sensitive, pc and patronising review. now i will be there opening day. "I'm not homophobic. some of my best friends have gay friends."
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I thought people knew that by now? His movies are like drinking diarrhea out of a dead donkey's anus while being plugged in the ass by a giant elephant dick. www.nzgamer.com
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I've only seen the Trailer for this movie but I would swear to god there IS some Ass to Mouth action between the stars.
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Noooooo
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gotta be a first time for everything right? but yeah, this movie looked lame from the moment i saw the trailer and didnt laugh once. i thought homophobia was supposed to stop being funny after like, the 5th grade....guess some people never grow up.
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...can be found right here...http://www.you tube.com/watch?v=m1sBMHWcUOw
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that this is from the guy with BUTTFUCKING pics in his sig and also from the guy who said a bunch of gay, fag, butt favor, etc, remarks in his review for hairspray. weird.
anyway as for political correctness... faggotniggerfaggottniggerfaggnigfaggnigfagg.
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I'm no fan of sandler, but when I watched 'Click' The very next day in surprise of just how enjoyable, and funny, it actually was.
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I meant I watched it twice. Hey messa, you said smoke if you got em
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Is that supposed to make me want to see it, or burn the print?
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Can't see anything on AICN about this: http://tinyurl.com/2kvx5w
It's been denied. So it must be true.
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You see, to truly understand this movie, you have to realize that the characters played by Adam Sandler and Kevin James AREN'T REALLY GAY!!! Get it now? Pretty funny stuff.
In other news, most of the gay people I know call each other "faggot." Kinda like the brothers do with the N-word. So I find Sandler's "don't call me a faggot," speech highly ironic.
Although I guess he'd be right if he were saying it to non-homosexuals...
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so I could deep throat her.
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Just by reading this article, you can tell Massawyrm is offended by the movies depictions of Gays. It is an Adam Sandler movie. That means it will be simple and Funny.
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As offended as this movie made you, I'm guessing you're a flaming homo. Right?
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You missed the point entirely, dude. The movie has an agenda. I just find it offensive that they want to lecture me out of one side of their mouth while while making the jokes they're lecturing against out the other. My only agenda is helping you guys avoid turdbombs like this one. But if you're so convinced that it is my agenda clouding my judgement, by all means, go. Prove me wrong. I could give a shit. It isn't my $10.
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Totally gay. Couldn't you tell by the picture of me and Harry? I'm sitting here right now just thinking of your big, juicy, throbbing mancock plowing inroads through my colon. Just the idea of your delicious, lumpy spunk dripping out of my cavities is getting me rock hard, ang craving the sweet sensation of your balls slapping against my chin...
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From the review. "So aside from the blatant sociological faux pas, how is it? Meh. The bulk of the film is tolerable. There are a few chuckles here and there, and the movie tends to play out like the lesser and most forgotten of the Adam Sandler comedies – but feels most akin to Big Daddy, which really had a heart but fell short of being anything worth remembering. Almost every last plot element feels oddly familiar and has been done better before. Hell, during the whole Adam Sandler/Jessica Beil I'd love you if you weren't gay/I wish I could tell you I'm not really gay subplot, all I could think was how much better I liked this story when it starred Neve Campbell and Matthew Perry and was called Three to Tango."
No. It's not very funny. -
and waste 2 hours of my life to see an Adam Sandler movie, I was worried about how the Y2K bug was going to affect my computer...
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Male homosexual love is the pie in face of twenty-first century comedy.
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I'm really excited about Daddy Day Camp. Screw the detractors HOLLYWOOD IS BACK BABY!!!!
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Why I won't see this piece of shit is their WW2 propaganda images of Asians. Why isn't anyone out there blasting them for this? I had the same question for the movie Crash that had every race being discriminated against but the Asians were ignored. I think I'll go see Sunshine instead of this piece of shit this weekend.
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That movie actually had laughs in from Roger Moore playing a gay retired version of 007 lusting for Horatio Sanz. I doubt this piece of shit has anything remotely that absurd going for it.
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Mass was being way too kind with "Big Daddy". I've never seen a comedy take itself so seriously and be so freaking sappy. By the halway point I thought I was watching Kramer vs. Kramer. Click was the same way.
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Chuck and Larry plot outline - Two 'very straight' American guys have to learn how to pass as a loving gay couple after falsely claiming same-sex status to take advantage of domestic partner benefits, hilarious consequences follow!..... Strange Bedfellows plot outline - Two 'very straight' Australian guys have to learn how to pass as a loving gay couple after falsely claiming same-sex status to take advantage of domestic partner benefits, hilarious consequences follow!.....
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It's basically 1.75 hours of stupid gay humor and 15 minutes of moralizing about how gays are people too. I did laugh here and there, and Jessica Biel is easy on the eyes, but the movie just doesn't work overall. It was like they hired Jerry Seinfeld to direct [i]The Passion of the Christ[/i]. The message just gets lost in translation.
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Terrible idea turned into a terrible movie. It tries so hard to force its pro-gay message down your throat it makes you choke. It is so lame it actually reinforces most negative gay stereotypes while showing many pro-gay people to be intolerant. Bizarre backfire of a film. Adam and Kevin are both going to need some comedy gold to reignite their film careers.
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