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Graboff: Conan Still Gets TONIGHT SHOW In 2009!!
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All kinds of stuff going down at recent Televison Critics Association events over the past few days. A few bits and pieces:
* NBC entertainment co-chair Marc Graboff says Conan O’Brien is still set to replace Jay Leno as “Tonight Show” host in two years. Jimmy Fallon, I know from listening to the Howard Stern Show, is contracted to replace O’Brien on "Late Night" at that point. NBC hopes to keep Leno from defecting to ABC or Fox with a role in primetime maybe.
* Towering 31-year-old redhead Alicia Witt, the first girl to exclaim on film that Paul-Muad'Dib was indeed the Kwisatz Haderach, will play a detective on “Law & Order: Criminal Intent,” which will play on USA before it hits NBC this year.
* NBC reportedly approached Rosie O’Donnell about being part of arch nemesis Donald Trump’s “Celebrity Apprentice.” Rosie apparently said through a publicist that it will never happen.
* Criss Angel and Uri Gellar will host “Phenomenon,” a new NBC reality series seeking the next top mentalist.
* Jerry Seinfeld will play himself on the season premiere of “30 Rock.”
* Handsome Isaiah Washington, recently departed from “Grey’s Anatomy,” appears in five episodes of NBC’s new “Bionic Woman.”
* The mammothly wealthy Norman Lear, who turns 85 in 10 days, will produce a Wall Street dramedy for NBC. His hit “The Jeffersons” finished a decade-long run in 1985. In 1994, he masterminded “704 Hauser,” about the black people living in Archie Bunker’s old house.
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He'll be the best Tonight Show host ever.
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bitches
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Will Conan be allowed to take all his characters to an earlier time slot, or will he be expected to be more mature? I couldn't imagine such a thing...
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nice
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Every week he comes up with a different reason for why he was fired, and he has turned a relatively small thing, into an intense hatred towards himself. He said he got fired because he was black. The fucking showrunner is black, how does that make any sense? Just accept you screwed up, and move on.
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Hang on, that may well actually BE Leno under there.
I still laugh at that sketch where Superman comes to rescue the girls in the bed, and gets turned on and starts rubbing his nipples etc. I know Conan probably wrote it, but the look on his face is fantastic. -
Hopefully Conan doesn't lose his 'edge' when he moves to 1030 CST. Also Fallon getting his own talk could be awesome...
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the poor guy...
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Has to be one of the hottest redheads ever.
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It is pretty funny that he pulled the race card to battle the homophobia card. It's like some weird, discriminatory version of Magic the Gathering!
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His tired late night routine will go over about as well as Katie Couric with the masses.
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NBC must have been turned down by John Stewart. That's the only way Jimmy "The No Talent Assclown/Adam Sandler Wannabe" Fallon would ever have even the smallest chance in hell to take over for Conan.
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The only possible replacement for Conan O'Brien is The Soup's Joel McHale!
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Totally agree with just about everybody on Fallon. Horrible replacement.
I like the idea of Joel McHale. The Soup is an absolute guilty pleasure and the only thing I can watch on E without having to fight back a gag reflex. -
...to the place where his natural talents can express themselves at their fullest.
I look forward to his behind-the-scenes work as a gay porn fluffer.
'Please sir.... not in the eye.'
To put it less subtly:
Fuck Jimmy Fallon's untalented, unfunny, derivative hack-sucking ass. -
Sam Raimi really missed the boat in not hiring her for MJ in Spider-Man.
As far as redheads go she's tops but Lindy Booth is gaining a lot of ground. -
Get pissed like Letterman did (for getting passed over for an earlier time slot), and leave for another network?.
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they're both at Viacom, and Jon has said many times that Letterman was a huge influence on him. doubtful Fallon will last long, I'd have preferred Tina Fey, but then i'd have to root for 30 Rock to get cancelled and i don't want that. Conan should do well on the Tonight Show. His current show's a little too filthy for 11:30 but they've got plenty of bits that can work, and his interviews are always top notch.
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After all the sex and violence of primetime television...you'd think old folks can handle a few raunchy jokes come 11:30.
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Better yet.. hire Gary Busey to do his own talk show. Anything but Fallon or Daly.
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I don't think the Masturbating Bear, nor Triumph, will make the trip with Conan. I just hope he doesn't turn into Letterman and recycle the same lame bits over and over for his 11:30 show, while leering at his female guests.
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That's exactly what Conesy does. He needs to cut back on the scripted shit, and have more chitchat. But of course, Max sucks at chitchat, so that'll never happen. Right Labamba?
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Come on! Isn't he the most obvious choice to take over for Conan? He has enough movie and TV experience post-Late Night that I think he is the perfect replacement for Conan... let's not forget that Conan would never have made it if not for Andy being there those first seven years. He is the absolute perfect replacement and is honestly in my opinion a lot more likeable than Conan. Ever since Andy left, Conan's ego has just grown and grown and grown. It is obvious even in the way he talks to Max. With this HD nonsense you can easily read Conan's body language.
By the way just so you talkbackers don't start saying I'm a Conan hater or anything, let me tell you that I flew to New York to see his show... waited in line from 3am in the freezing cold just to get seats, and I wasn't even first in line! I was there when he debuted Preperation H Raymond and have been watching his show since the beginning. Conan has really let me down these last few years.
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They're gawd-awful; not as bad as Leno (as NOBODY is as bad as Leno), but there is something *desperate* about a Coney interview. I thought O'Brian was cold in the ground some years ago, but then he came up with the "Walker Texas Ranger Lever," and at least for a few minutes it was that late 90's magic again. The best parts of Conan are: whoever it is that books his musical guests, that person/ those people have always been good; and the original comedy that opens the show.
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I like the way you think sir!
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thing about this show, we dont get CNBC Europe over here anymore(sky swalloed it up as digital channel). Some, I agree are hit and miss. We all have forgotten and possibly wisely so the Dirty Dancing campaign and after having seen he prounced to be terrible. Idiot. speaking of Leno did anybody see his interview with posh spice Victoria Beckham. The us sports editor of the Sunday tribune did....from behind the couch. on an interivew with his old boss matt cooper on the radio yesterday he questioned the whole beckham going to america to rescue us football , when it is far from declining. Matt cooper: did we see the famous psh spice smile. David Hannigan: She looked like she been biting and had just swallowed a sour lemon sweet.
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Conan is a great writer, as he was for SNL many years ago, but he is just NOT FUNNY! He is tries too hard to be funny, and it just comes off very sophmoric that appeals to the teenage crowd. I don't get the love for him, but because he is a talented writer, I think his skits are hilareous, and the ONLY good thing about his show. Conan will not appeal to many in the 11:30 audience who are older then 25 years old, because his act will get old, especially when he starts shaking his head so his hair moves around. God I miss Johnny Carson/David Letterman late night days in the 80's/early 90's, nothing will ever beat that 1-2 punch.
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That many people aren't ready for Conan an hour earlier. They aren't going to stand for the same schtick in the opening monologue every night: the hip dance that he cuts off with fake scissors, "Hey, babies.", the big laugh to straight face, etc. I love Conan, but that crowd isn't ready for him. Conan is too unique, and also too repetitive after a while, for that crowd.
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I'll only watch if James Randi is one of the judges
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Nothing about leno is funny. He seems like a twit.
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Anyone ever take any risks in television anymore?
Who knew who Katie Couric was when they put her on the Today show?
No one.
Who knew who Conan O'Brien was when they put him on the Late Night show?
No one.
These days, they can't fill a slot unless it's some known name and the results aren't any better. In fact, the results are usually worse.
Jimmy Fallon? Great way to START a show that you know will never be better than mediocre. Keep driving away people, NBC, with your bland no risk-taking moves.
Bland.
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but he's still 100 times better than Leno. So if Leno can succeed in that spot, what makes anybody think Conan won't? It defies logic.
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And Jimmy Fallon might actually get Late Night cancelled.
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No more Tonight Show in BURBANK... Thank god, what an awful location to shoot the tonight show..
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as long as they don't water him down for the 11:30 crowd. Jimmy Fallon for follow up--Hell NO! I think Joel McHale would work for Late Night. As for Isiah Washington, he's better off doing something else; Grey's Anatomy sucks and it's going downhill anyway. For that matter, ABC sucks, and it's going downhill.
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His primetime specials are only good for the clips.Still, there IS no one better.
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...needs to borrow some rent money from you. Just till 2009, dude, then he'll like totally pay you back.
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Fallon isn't contracted to replace Conan. He signed a holding contract with NBC to prevent another network from scooping him up. It probably means that he's NBC's #1 choice for the 12:30 slot, but NBC is not contractually obligated to give it to him (unless there's a clause in the contract that we know nothing about).
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I like both Leno and Conan, but Conan is going to be tough sell to to middle America. Leno was great replacement because like Carson he is very mainstream, very middle America. Leno can be watched by anyone and enjoyed, there is nothing that would instatnly turn you off. Conan on the other hand is very polarizing. His show thrievs on its wierdness and is often at its best when it comments on own wierdness. It either leaves you in stiches or has you scratching your head wondering how this guy stays on the air. In short I don't think the move will work, but then again I don't think many people would have predicted that Conan would still be on the air at this point.
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Tonight Show skews traditional/old, Conan doesn't. Not a good match.
Washington is hardly "universally hated homophobe." To make any type of comment like that, in THIS chat room, is ludicrous. -
"I LIKE BOTH LENO and Conan.." [sharki]. Sorry, but that kinda talk isn't allowed here, nor should it be. Mods...please remove this middle-of-the-road rube from our presense, NOW!
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I know Larry King has appointed him heir apparent, but who knows.
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That's been pretty much confirmed. LA has all the premieres and all the celebs, a major edge over Letterman. Conan will be packing his bags.
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Is that he doesn't have a funny bone in his body. He's the underdog type that unfunny people love to root for, but everything he does bombs and he probably should just quit and sell insurance and be an unfunny insurance salesman.
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He doesn't have that same quality that Dave Letterman has that makes it difficult for some people to warm up to him. I think anyone that's exposed to Conan for more than two minutes will probably like him quite a bit.
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But he's really not a bad choice at all. He had some great impressions on SNL, but he was never what I'd call a chameleon -- he was always Jimmy Fallon -- and that kind of persona will fit well as the Late Night host (and cracking up behind a desk is definitely better than cracking up in the middle of a sketch). Besides, he's subbed for Letterman and (I think) Conan before, and he's done a solid job. I do agree with whoever said that Joel McHale would be great, though.
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Especially Dave. Also, at least Max Weinberg doesn't feel the need to chime in every five seconds like Paul Shaffer. Paul is really fucking annoying.
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He is however, under contract to NOT do a talk show for anyone else but NBC.
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Introducing country acts night after night.
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HARDCOREEXTREME
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Still love that episode.
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Carvey as a hot ex-SNL property was given a holding contract to keep him to replace letterman at 12:30. But then Carvey had heart trouble and the doctor ballsed-up the operation and he was out of commission, so they went to Lorne and asked him to find someone, and the rest is history... I am not sure how long the Carvey contract was for, but I have a sneaking suspicion it is why he didn't try anything else when he first recovered, he was probably still getting paid... Oh and Carvey was an actual talent unlike Fallon... NBC should do a larger scale version of what CBS did with the Late, Late show and have a bunch of people do the show for a week each to see who does well and clicks...
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Yes, Dana Carvey had a holding deal, but he turned down 12:30 because he didn't want to follow Leno (I highly recommend Bill Carter's excellent "The Late Shift" for the most detailed account). This happened in 1993--his botched operation occured in 1997.
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His fill in for Dave was fucking golden.
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I like Jimmy Fallon and think he is pretty funny, but I used to get annoyed as ever when he would start giggling through every damn skit on SNL! This isn't the Carol Burnett Show, nobody ever laughed on SNL!
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Read an article about it this morning. Can't imagine why they would turn to that has-been.
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He was good for what he did on a few skits for SNL, but for him to hold his own for an hour will kill him, he will probably end up in some giggling fit like a 11 year old school girl after she meets Timberlake.
Jimmy doesnt have the hacks for it... I would rather see Carvey, he is so much funnier and would interact with the guest so much better.
Thank god they are getting rid of Leno.. he is a talentless hack as someone on here put it. He is such a kiss ass to the guests, laughs at all their stupid jokes and most of the time they are looking at him and wondering what the fuck is so funny. I guess if i was 75 years old, i would think Leno was funny... his stand up blew also. Hope he reads this. -
"Who knew who Katie Couric was when they put her on the Today show?
No one."
Didn't matter. All that mattered is that she *wasn't* Deborah Norville, who was portrayed at the 'other woman' who 'forced' the beloved Jane Pauley 'out' of the Today Show.
Which was a shame, since I was a fan of hers and thought she got a raw deal on several levels. -
"I realize most people on the talkbacks hate Fallon" Most people on the talkbacks hate everything.
Conan is great and the funniest interviewer on the late night shows. -
I still can't decide if Children of Dune was any good. Great soundtrack though.
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You can also argue the same point (networks not taking risks on unknowns) by mentioning a few talk shows hosted by already-knowns:Chevy ChasePat SajakMegan MullalyRoseanne
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Weird.... AL...... YANKOVIC. I'd stay up late every night to watch that.
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giving Late Night to Carson Daly
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I'll probably agree with you 99%. But there is no denying that his "Jay-walking" pieces are consistantly hilarious.
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NBC going for fifth place behind the USA network. Good job, Losers!
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"For he ith the Kwithath Haderathhh!" Glad to know Witt's gotten over the lisp, but it's funny that Lynch never looped over that line.
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in the Hairspray talkback.
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Larry Sanders rules.
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and Fallon considered for Late Night? That must be SOME contract he has with Satan.
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Conan's been the funniest guy on the network late night shows for over a decade now. He deserves the primo spot about a gazillion times more than Jay Leno.
As far as Fallon goes; he probably won't be very good, but at least they didn't give the spot to Carson Daly - five years and that guy still hasn't delivered a decent joke. -
...bits may be legitimately funny; but that has more to do with the idiocy of the responses than anything Leno adds to the proceedings. He peaked with his "Crunch all you want, we'll make more," Doritos ads in the late '80's/ early 90's. Since then the only person he has really impressed is himself.
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....ever since I found out that Conan was taking over in 2009.
As a fan of Conan's for almost eight years, I've grown up with Conan and his material. And knowing how much more intelligent it is than the Leno-watching American, I can only fear for Conan's tenure on the Tonight Show. Unless they give him total creative freedom, I fear that NBC is going to force him to water-down his stuff. Otherwise, I'm pretty confident that he'll be the next Katie Couric. PLEASE NO!!!! -
...has The Tonight Show, he should roll out "Robot Taking A Dump." That would help show what kind of tone his tenure will have... we can only hope. Leno has made the program so bland, it is mostly unwatchable... unless he has on a decent band.
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panel today (TV Critics Association press tour). A "scheduling conflict" was cited as the reason. The fact this happened 12 hours or so after Washington was hired to appear on the Bionic Woman is purely coincidental. I don't think Sackhoff is pleased at the least with this. Agree or not?
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If Stewart didn't want the slot, Joel should've been next in line. The Soup is fucking hilarious and the only watchable program on E!. (Except Isiah Washington: True Homowood Story)
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It's so over. Fill the Late Night slot with some WALKER TEXAS RANGER RERUNS!
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I think Katee Sackhoff is probably in Vancouver shooting the next season of Battlestar Galactica.
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as late as yesterday morning. Then the news that NBC hired Washington, and today, no Sackhoff. This wasn't David Eick's decision, either, I heard. It was Ben Silverman's call. And now you've got one person after another on the TV Guide and Gold Derby Emmy forums vowing not to watch Bionic Woman because that walking powder keg is in it doesn't bode well for what could be your best new show of the coming season.
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Oops, wrong guy there. ;)
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If you listened to what he has said, he is one of several people who have been paid to not take a talk show elsewhere. NBC has not decided on a Conan replacement yet. Fallon is only one of a handful who MIGHT get that gig.
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Jul 17, 2007 7:39:52 PM CDT
Uri Gellar would be great at judging a CON-MAN contest!
by bob cryptonight
WTF? Uri Gellar!!!!?
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Leno was never funny. I can't get through five minutes of his show because it's so goddamn awful.
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but he certainly would be a better choice than Jimmy Fallon. I suspect both Conan on Tonight and Fallon on Late Night will lose tons of ratings for NBC. Other than Brian McCann sketches, I find it hard to get into post-Andy Conan.
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Many people didn't think Letterman would be able to succeed at 11:30, and he's still around. And I still love Dave. I'd take Dave's oft-repeated comedy bits to just about anything Leno does.
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do a shot every time he says to a guest " So much to talk about"..You'll be hammered just in time to enjoy Carson daly.
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And don't tell me Jimmy Fallon, cause then I know you'll be lying!
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And the winner is...
Letterman! Leno and Letterman are pretty different - Letterman going for the college educated crowd and Leno going for the rest. But Dave and Conan are both chasing the same demographics and I think that Dave will get more of Leno's audience than Conan will. Putting Conan on the Tonight Show is a big mistake for NBC. -
That is all.
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...plain and simple. His interviews are always self-serving, and more about him than his guest. He is annoying, manic, and can only be taken in small small doses (think Don Rickles).Washington is, quite simply, a liar, and it was his lying more than anything else that did him in. The whole "I never said it, never happened" crap followed by admitting he said it, going to anger management, doing PSAs, and playing the race card when he got fired--Lying Frakkin Weasel. I can only hope his 5 episode stint in BW is as a scumbag villain who dies in a stupid, humiliating way.
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...but won't bring down the show, cuz it is on so late hardly anyone watches anyway. He is more likely to be replaced DAMN FAST, so don't blink or you might miss him entirely.Wait! Blinking sounds like exactly the thing to do!
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well, a piece of it anyways. You see, just now, i saw a Direct TV commercial with Signorney Weaver whoring up ALIENS (the bit with the "mover" fighting the bitch). If you have not seen it yet, you will. SIGHHHHHhhhhhh. I can't believe that it was ever even greenlit (paid for.) as far as Conan goes...i love him and his excitemnet of "doing his thing". i just hope i'm not tired of him by 2009.
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mis-spelled.
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over priced and over pricing liars.
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Why?... Is it because his first name is the same as Johnny Carson's last name?? Probably the only reason, but the problem is Carson Daly is NOOOoooo Johnny Carson, period. Cripes! If Carson Daly can get a show, anyone can. Conan on the other hand is great. Not as great as he used to be, but still great. As long as he brings along Max's band, revamps the set, and kicks off Kevin and the shitty Tonight Show band, I'll be happy.
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I'll post my rational take on Conan moving up to Tonight in 2009...
I think it's a great move for NBC. By that point, the college kids that really made Conan big ratings-wise (my group... the 1997-2001 bunch) will be rounding 30 and suddenly be the core adult demographic and will be for the next 20 years. Conan will be 46 years old at that point. Give him around 20 years like Leno got. By that point, that group will be in their 50s and will have watched Conan for 30 or 40 years.
In my case, I've watched him since he started. I was 13 in 1992 and have been pretty loyal to Conan. I think many my age feel like that about him (that he's OUR Johnny) and will follow him to 11:30 and support him.
And that's the thing. By 2009, the Johnny crowd will be obsolete and the people who made Leno a bigger success than Letterman will be aging. Conan's group is coming to power at the same time he is and that will guarantee ratings. And the late Gen X/Gen Y population is bigger than the baby boomers, so Conan really doesn't need them that much.
In short, he'll be fine and run the Tonight Show til around 2019 or so. He'll be 66 and I'll be able to take over for him fully. ;) -
Here are the ranking for late night hosts right now 1. Letterman 2. Kimmel 3. Ferguson 4. Conan 5. Leno 6. Carson Conan's show seems to be the most repetitive of them all. And his schtick with hot women is annoying. NBC makes late night people unfunny. Whoever watches Carson's show should poke their eyes out instead.
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He'll even freely admit it, Letterman revolutionized the talk show, Conan just ran with it. Don't get me wrong, he is supremely talented, but his entire format is reliant on what Letterman created. Letterman is underappreciated these days as an innovator, but so much of what is mainstream comedy owes a huge debt to him. And the great thing is, every now and again, the old Letterman will surface from his bored routine and just for a few seconds you will see he is still a fucking genius. When a particularly bland guest gets to up on themselves and tries to out funny him or when someone he genuine respects from the old days(like Bill Murray) is on.
Oh and for you whippersnappers check for clips from Youtube of when Leno was a guest on Letterman, where Leno got his break, and be amazed that at one time Leno was funny and Dave very graciously set him up over and over, and probably lost the Tonight Show while doing it... -
Jul 18, 2007 6:44:36 AM CDT
Hercules - since when is 5'8" & a half "towering"???
by trader groucho 2
Unless you put Witt opposite, say, Tom Cruise. Or Michael J. Fox. Or that red-headed guy from Entourage. Now Laura Prepon at 5'10" with a healthy build is legitimately tall.
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John and Stephen have cornered the market on late-night funny. Seriously, who under the age of 40 watches any of those other shows except when a band they like is on???
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...it's a 5-episode deal that I *HOPE* the show can weather...after that stint is over, he is supposed to be getting an action-oriented series for the 2008-2009 season. Maybe Katee will snap his neck in his last episode...
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but his movies suck
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I will admit that I think Leno's stand up when he is not on (or was not on) The Tonight Show is funny. On that show, he's not. I mean, there are some occasional bits of funny, but its usually so bland, obvious, mainstream, etc. I prefer Dave's general lack of interest in the Hollywood world. And when Dave once had Bill O'Reilly on and got into a genuine political argument with the guy, I thought to myself that there is no way in Hell Leno would ever get involved in that discussion. Dave may have a lot of "dumb" comedy these days, but it's not necessarily predictable, and it somehow manages to be, uh, smart dumbness. If I'm making any sense whatsoever.
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... and he'll have a career again!
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... a reality show about finding the next "mentalist" with Criss Angel? So he's finally admitting he's a big, phoney douche?
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... on this "Next Great Mentalist" thing is for The Amazing Randi and Penn and Teller unexpectedly show up in the audience. Randi can again expose Geller for the rip-off douchebag he is and Penn & Teller can bitchslap Criss Angel!
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""For he ith the Kwithath Haderathhh!" Glad to know Witt's gotten over the lisp, but it's funny that Lynch never looped over that line."
Actually, it's not - it's straight out of the book. Alia had a lisp because she was talking before her palate was fully developed. -
Anyone catch Conan last night? It was easily the worst, most awkward talk show episode I've seen since Magic Johnson was on the air.
All Conan did was creep out Jessica Biel and the audience with really inappropriate unfunny physical or sexual questions and comments. THEN the clip didn't eork twice, THEN Artie Lange comes out and basically talks about how he wants to bang Biel.
It was basically a really unfunny version of the Howard Stern show. Normally, I love Conan, though he's been hit or miss for the past few years, but man...I wouldn't be surprised if a divorce resulted. Unless he convinced his wife not to watch it.
If it was funny physical questions, fine, but when you're going to take over the Tonight Show in 2 years, you should have better questions than, "What's your favorite part of your body? And your least favorite?" -
How many times will we see THAT sketch?
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I did watch it, and I liked the spontaneity of it. Lange saying he wanted to bang Biel was funny cringe humor.
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Conan's ego and stature have definitely grown and the weird thing is, he still tries to be self-depricating which doesn't work anymore. The show still has its hits (the Spanish-soap opera with Conando, the door-to-door creepy salesman, and the ghost crooner), but for the most part the quality of the show has declined. I blame a large part of that on Conan, because I think the show's writing has definitely improved over the years (Scott Baio and MC Hammer jokes notwithstanding).
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I fully expected that from Artie, who has managed to lose weight and still look like he's about to have a massive coronary at the same time. But from Conan? Usually he does the growl thing and says a compliment and moves on, but man...he was creepin' me out! And I don't creep out easily.
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jesus christ....
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Geez Jimmy Fallon?? Fuck that- bring on Late Night with Zuckuss!!
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Yea--I record the thing only when there is a guest that I really want to see, FF thru to the interview, and usually Conan is mugging for the camera and hogging the screen time for himself.What a tool.
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Conan is funny, Leno is a jerk and Dave is a jerk who thinks he is funny.
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