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Man, If Only We Knew John Carpenter And Could Verify This Rumor...

Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here. John Carpenter is a cagey man. I love that I can chat with him for a couple of hours at a time, and learn absolutely nothing about what else he’s doing besides our projects together. He plays everything very close to the vest. He knows that I’m always going to be a fan of his work, and he drops occasional hints to me (“Yeah, Kurt Russell was here and we were talking about something we might do...” “WHAT?!?!?!?!”) knowing full well that I’m going to get crazy about them. So have I heard the title LA GOTHIC before? Yes. But not from him. And I know nothing more about it than you’ll read in this e-mail. But maybe I can wheedle something out of him about it next time we talk. It certainly sounds like it has some potential...

Hi, been working this summer as an intern at [someplace we deleted so this guy doesn't get shitcanned]. Been keeping my ears out for any scoops but none yet. On Friday the CE in our office started talking to one of the producers about a new John Carpenter Movie. The "Thing" and the first "Escape From New York" are two of my favorite movies of all time so my ears perked up and I overheard the CE describing Carpenter's new movie. He said it's called LA Gothic and the script has various chapters but they all revolve around a Preist and his Teen-age daughter and that there are a ton of creatures in it. It's supposed to have vampires, zombies and a demon-possesed rock-star. He said it all takes place in LA over a couple of days and that it's vintage Carpenter tons of gore and action. If you use this call me, Lord Klaxon
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  • July 15, 2007, 6:14 a.m. CST


    by schnipple


  • July 15, 2007, 6:14 a.m. CST

    You Know...

    by schnipple

    that actually felt better the second time tonight!!!

  • July 15, 2007, 6:15 a.m. CST

    The Ender Smites Foes

    by schnipple

    I can't make up my mind, is this gay???

  • July 15, 2007, 6:17 a.m. CST

    Sounds Awesome

    by Captain RawBeard

    Kurt Russel should play the priest. Nuff Said!

  • July 15, 2007, 6:20 a.m. CST


    by Monotonous Black

    I was so close to being first! Your comments appeared just as I was about to log in to post! Anyway, any news about John Carpenter working again is great.

  • July 15, 2007, 6:39 a.m. CST

    Yes! He is back!

    by spud mcspud

    Sounds very similar to the book DEMONS by John Shirley - LA in the Apocalypse, demons running the streets and humans living un a Hell-inspired oppressive rule. If Carpenter's making it, it'll likely be a mix of inspired genius and absolute shitcake - and the balance is not going well the older JC gets...<P> Anyway, fuck all that - WHEN DO WE GET BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE WHEREVER 2 ?!?!? >;D

  • July 15, 2007, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Sounds kind of stupid, frankly

    by Drunken Rage

    I'll see anything made by Carpenter, but when was the last time he did anything of any real merit? "The Thing"?

  • July 15, 2007, 6:55 a.m. CST

    Stupid perhaps but wildy entertaining

    by Yeti

    And isn't that what we all want?

  • July 15, 2007, 7:13 a.m. CST

    The Thing

    by MatDGZ

    and The Thing alone qualifies Carpenter as a genius horror filmmaker. Not to mention Halloween... I can't wait for Carpenter to find his game again and make something as kickass as The Thing.

  • July 15, 2007, 7:16 a.m. CST

    You lost me at...

    by loafroaster

    ...Demon-possessed rock star. And seriously, what was the last good thing Carpenter did? I still believe he was kidnapped in the early 90s and Uwe Boll's been posing as him ever since.

  • July 15, 2007, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Should have retired after 'Ghosts Of Mars'

    by MKiro

    No, Mori. We don't get excited about any news that Carpenter is going to make a new film. After his abysmal projects over the past 10 years (and yes, I certainly include the dire 'Cigarette Burns'), I think it's a stratch for any fan to automatically assume it's going to be up there with EFNY, Halloween, The Thing or AOP13. Don't raise the expectations. Try managing them instead.

  • July 15, 2007, 7:33 a.m. CST

    The Thing is as classic as Alien

    by quantize

    and it was a tragedy it was recognized more at the time I must have watched it over 15 times or more The man is a genius and deserves some kick ass budget and the freedom to roll with it.

  • July 15, 2007, 7:34 a.m. CST

    I liked Cigarette Burns, so FU MKiro

    by quantize

    ok so Ghosts did kinda suck, still was entertaining enough...

  • July 15, 2007, 7:47 a.m. CST

    And with your second comment, quantize...

    by MKiro thus lost all credibility for your first.

  • July 15, 2007, 8:08 a.m. CST

    KC + KR =

    by powerfuljedi

    The Thing, Escape, Little China were all top notch flicks. I thought Vampires was pretty good too, well except for James Woods. He is not at all a tough guy, I didn't believe him as a slayer for one minute. But JC did Vampires really good. If you want to see some more JC great creature movies check out the The Prince of Darkness and The Fog. I hope this rumor is true, then that is all I want to hear about it. :>

  • July 15, 2007, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Hope he has some sort of passion for this...

    by Datascream

    unlike his recent stuff. I remember when he was on The Daily Show way back when he did Ghosts of Mars. The guy didn't even know what it was about. All he wanted was to marry some rich woman and get all her money. Either he's a total deadbeat, or a master comedian. All I'll have from him is The Thing and Escape from New York.

  • July 15, 2007, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Let me get this straight ...

    by reaper28

    John Carpenter. Vampires? Check. Zombies? Check. Demon-possessed rock-star? WTF, but Triple Check? My nipples have gone all tingly!

  • July 15, 2007, 9:34 a.m. CST

    John Carpenter's L.A. Gothic. The title alone is great

    by HarryBlackPotter

    Please let this be true. We need Carpenter back on the scene. Now.

  • July 15, 2007, 10:40 a.m. CST

    I liked this movie when it was called....

    by Otter

    "From Dusk Til' Dawn".

  • July 15, 2007, 10:42 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I'll go ahead and answer that question. Yes, it is "gay". Carpenter should move in a different direction. After VAMPIRES and GHOSTS OF MARS, I'd say it's high-time he consider some new subject matter. Although, he may be doing that with PSYCHOPATH (?).

  • July 15, 2007, 10:47 a.m. CST

    bring it on...

    by kung_fu_elvis

    I loved the Thing, Big Trouble, Halloween, fog, and I think 'In the mouth' is still one of my favourites... Even with the occasional misses Carpenter has earned my money for this one already.

  • July 15, 2007, 10:53 a.m. CST

    MKiro, "Cigarette Burns" was a remake of a French film.

    by Uncapie

    Just so you know.

  • July 15, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Demon-possessed rock-star?

    by zenzer

    Let me guess, the Demon-possessed rock-star leads the hordes of zombies and vampires (Alice Cooper ala Prince of Darkness?, Big Daddy Ghosts of Mars?). If Carpenter isn't careful, he could be creating great tongue in cheek commentary on today's celebrity obsessed culture. Although, that cynical commentary on Hollywood worked so well for EFLA *shudders*

  • July 15, 2007, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Better than Vampires?

    by Judge Briggs

    With the head vamp trying to look like Trent Reznor. Man, that movie was a turd.

  • July 15, 2007, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Funny, I just watched The Thing last night.

    by kwisatzhaderach

    It was still amazing. Great John Carpenter movies: Assault on Precint 13, Halloween, The Fog, Escape From New York, The Thing, Starman, Big Trouble in Little China, Prince of Darkness, They Live, In the Mouth of Madness.

  • July 15, 2007, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Carpenter's 80's stuff...

    by loafroaster

    ...was amazing. Absolutely fucking amazing. Even the 'bad' ones like Christine and Prince of Darkness were entertaining. But this'll be a piece of shit. He's lost it. I gave him a chance with Escape from LA, I gave him a chance with Vampires (with James Woods doing his excruiciating 'hey vampire, lick my balls, you wanna lick my balls? come on, lick my balls', etc), I gave him a chance with Ghosts of's over.

  • July 15, 2007, 12:31 p.m. CST

    I agree..but.

    by Fixthe Fernback

    The guy has created some of my favourite movies of all time, so I always give him a chance with every film he does. Unfortunately, since Invisible Man (I liked They Live) there has been turd after turd, with maybe Mouth a borderline exception. I have yet to see Cigarette Burns however. <p>Come back to us John we love you!!!

  • July 15, 2007, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Sounds lousy.

    by JackPumpkinhead

    Still, it should be better than that horrible TV episode that he did a while ago. "Cigarette Monsters of Horror", was it? Something along those lines...

  • July 15, 2007, 12:36 p.m. CST

    The Day Of The Beast?

    by Fixthe Fernback

    Sounds a BIT like the spanish movie The Day of The Beast from director Álex de la Iglesia. Where a priest teams up with a Death metal fan to stop satan. Class movie. I recommend it highly!

  • July 15, 2007, 12:51 p.m. CST


    by krushjudgement

    Are you kidding me? Vampires was very entertaining not a four star classic, but a solid 3 star movie.

  • July 15, 2007, 12:52 p.m. CST

    I just got off the phone with Kurt Russell...

    by Uncle Stan

    He'll be playing the role of Jim in ACCORDING TO JIM: THE MOVIE.

  • July 15, 2007, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Cigarette Burns is pretty good

    by canopus

    If you imagine that the movie that they're watching at the end, that's making them rip out their eyes and kill themselves, is actually Son In Law.

  • July 15, 2007, 1:23 p.m. CST

    "Vintage" Carpenter?

    by Quake II

    I doubt it. That Carpenter has been MIA since Big Trouble In Little China. I'm hoping for 50% of vintage Carpenter to return instead of the 15% we've been getting all these years. Carpenter was known for directing dark, moody pictures that kicked all sorts of ass.I'm beginning to think that Dean Cundy and Debra Hill were the real talent behind his early work......

  • July 15, 2007, 1:24 p.m. CST

    It's called "L.A. Catholic"

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    It has vampires, monsters, and Roman Polanski.

  • July 15, 2007, 1:44 p.m. CST

    I've often wondered about John's knowledge of Catholics

    by The Inspector

    In THE FOG, Father Malone had a grandfather named...FATHER MALONE. Umm...<p>In PRINCE OF DARKNESS, he has everyday parish priests being driven around town in limousines while having their messages couriered to people by nuns.<p>I won't even get into VAMPIRES...

  • July 15, 2007, 1:58 p.m. CST


    by newkie brown

    I'm first in line to see any new John Carpenter movie. I just hope that if, as it says above, there are "a ton of creatures" in L.A. Gothic, that he foregoes the KNB cartoony effects and dodgy CGI that have marred his films for some time now. He needs to take a stricter hand with that stuff. As good as KNB are (and they are good - look at their work on Sin City for example; fantastic stuff), I find some of their creature work lacking, big time. Rob Bottin's work on The Thing set a high water mark for genre FX, but since then the effects work, both make-up and visual, in Carpenter films has felt phoney.

  • July 15, 2007, 2:24 p.m. CST

    STFU Mkiro

    by supersize

    You don't speak for me sir. Also way to lookout for the little guy mor

  • July 15, 2007, 4:29 p.m. CST

    as much as i want to beleive it

    by datachasm

    i dont, because ALL of Carpenters work has hit the remake circles... i just dont see how he is gonna get a new movie off the ground if they are treating his others like he is dead.

  • July 15, 2007, 4:50 p.m. CST

    The real John Carpenter was killed in 1988

    by Bass Bastardson

    And replaced by a look-alike robot. While the robot has fooled many people over the years, those who look closely can tell there is one major difference between the deceased director and his replicant replacement - THE ROBOT CAN'T DIRECT HIS WAY OUT OF A WET PAPER BAG.

  • July 15, 2007, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Read it - it's AWESOME!

    by Roderick Usher

    Great script, great director...all it need is a kick-ass cast. KR would be brilliant in the lead.

  • July 15, 2007, 7:28 p.m. CST

    At the End of the Thing


    Kurt Russel and his friend froze to death wondering which one had become the Thing when in fact it was the director who was absorbed by the alien lifeform and returned to make really shit films like Ghosts of Mars hoping no one would realise he wasn't the real John Carpenter. . .

  • July 15, 2007, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Lest we foget Dark Star!

    by Maniaq

    Otherwise, totally right on the money Paul Muaddib! <br> <br> Did anyone else get the little reference in Sunshine? <br> <br> BRILLIANT!

  • July 16, 2007, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Carpenter is my personal hero

    by LordSoth

    No other person has made as many of my favorite movies. I know Masters of Horror is just a TV show, but I didn't sense greatness in his episodes. Ghosts of Mars also felt not as inspired as his earlier work. I hope the next thing he does really shows his passion. In the Mouth of Madness is one of my favorites.

  • July 16, 2007, 12:28 a.m. CST

    At least

    by LordSoth

    Ghosts of Mars was far more enjoyable than any Paul WS Anderson movie. The style was "on" even if the payoff wasn't as much as I'd expected.

  • July 16, 2007, 12:29 a.m. CST

    If LA Gothic actually has a budget

    by LordSoth

    I'll start salivating. The movie sounds like it could be big. p.s. James Woods wss the best part of Vampires.

  • July 16, 2007, 1 a.m. CST

    JC is Back!!!!!

    by oducerproducer

    Hopefuly this is true.

  • July 16, 2007, 3 a.m. CST

    Welcome home, Johnny

    by BenBraddock

    OK, maybe a *tad* early for that...

  • July 16, 2007, 3:02 a.m. CST

    Incidentally, Heath's Joker looks like Robert Smith

    by BenBraddock

    If he died his hair green that is.

  • July 16, 2007, 3:03 a.m. CST

    Actually, this sounds like a concept

    by ewokstew

    for a Steve Niles book.

  • July 16, 2007, 3:31 a.m. CST

    Carpenter Hasn't...

    by Tourist

    Made anything good since Big Trouble In Little China. Portions of They Live, even Prince Of Darkness or In The Mouth Of Madness were okay, but the films overall were generally poor. Body Bags, Vampires, his Masters Of Horror output and most horrifically Ghosts Of Mars were complete and utter garbage. The worst kind of unwatchable bores, because in some of the cases, the concepts weren't half bad. Just really badly made. This project sounds pretty shitty, just from a pitch perspective, and with a naff title. I hope it isn't though, because like everyone else, when Carpenter was on form back in the day, he was the man. Cigarette Burns was a remake of a French Flick now? I thought it was a total lift of Flicker, that cool book no one seems to be able to make into a movie. As for the priest having a kid thing, are you retarded? You think thats not part of the hook? Like the writer sat down with complete ignorance to the celibacy vow? Wouldn't that be part of the dramatic conflict in the film? Did you know that a man can't leap tall buildings or run faster than a choo choo train too?

  • July 16, 2007, 4:25 a.m. CST

    The reason Ghosts of Mars blew so horribly

    by Lost Prophet

    Is that he was obviously bored doing it. It may as well have been called Assault on Martian Precinct. <p>I really can ignore his track record since the 90's and pay to see any film he makes because he has made so many that I love and I want him to keep earning so he can keep making genre films. <p>Anything other than torture porn, please god, anything other than torture porn.

  • July 16, 2007, 4:38 a.m. CST

    I thought the first Vampires was good

    by bender7

    But it may have been mainly James Wood. I think given the right material he could make another great one

  • July 16, 2007, 6:54 a.m. CST


    by 1st and only

    cundy was the best cinematographer of the 80's.if john carpenter wants to deliver a decent movie again then cundy has to be back on the team!he was the perfect foil for carpenters slower paced movies.debra hill and kurt russell co wrote/produced escape from L.A so its obviously not them who were making carpenter great.(kurt russel's best films are all carpenters!) it has to be cundy's comic frame cinematography thats been almost forces carpenter into his slow paced groove!

  • July 16, 2007, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Priests having daughters -- it can happen w/o being

    by chrth

    controversial -- Provided the daughter was conceived before he became a priest (which does happen, although usually the church strongly discourages fathers from becoming Fathers; however, a la Wonderfalls, if he doesn't know ... )

  • July 16, 2007, 8:48 a.m. CST


    by Cobbio

    I'm a huge fan of "The Thing," and I respect Carpenter, but this idea sounds silly bordering on stupid. A demon-possessed rock star? What, like Justin Timberlake? Like the lead singer of "Green Day"? The term "rock star" doesn't carry nearly the allure it used to. Hell, those singers on "American Idol" are all rock stars in most people's minds, right? Demon-possessed rock star, my ass. More like demon-possessed whiny bitch with styley emo hair.<p> Yuck.<p> "Ghosts of Mars" was a fuck-up of classic proportions, primarily because it pushed supernatural horror into science fiction. The two genres mix like oil and water every time. Pick one or the other, not both. Yet Carpenter thought it could work, I guess.<p> How the mighty have fallen.

  • July 16, 2007, 9:06 a.m. CST


    by Lost Prophet

    I think supernatural horror and Sci-Fi can mix if done properly- (people cite Event Horizon as Piss Wank Stain Anderson's only decent film, but it didn't do it for me.) Although, as they are both, arguably, difficult genres to do well it raises the chance of a fuck up to epic levels.<p>hmm, something to ponder on the way home.

  • July 16, 2007, 10:11 a.m. CST


    by Lost Prophet

    You have to see the rest of his films to empathise with the level of hatred that people have for him. Except shopping, which is quite good despite having both Jude Law and Sadie Frost in it.

  • July 16, 2007, 11:04 a.m. CST

    I'll watch "Soldier" over "Ghosts of Mars" any day.

    by Movietool

    Sorry, LordSoth. Same goes for "Resident Evil" over "Vampires," or "Event Horizon" over "The Mouth of Madness." Paul WS hasn't made the classics that Carpenter has, but he sure as hell is making better movies right now.

  • July 16, 2007, 11:11 a.m. CST

    No waaaaay movietool

    by Lost Prophet

    I'll take Event Horizon over Ghosts of mars, but the rest of them are all equally awful and I would much rather watch MAdness over Soldier and Resident Evil, <p>i would also watch all of them from both directors rather than Alien v Predator.

  • July 16, 2007, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Well, we agree on AvP

    by Movietool

    What a piece of crap.

  • July 16, 2007, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Does he still get his name in the title?

    by Spandau Belly

    After his bad run in the 90s I'm sure he's lost rights to possesive titles. Are his kids named John Carpenter's Sally Carpenter and John Carpenter's Jimmy Carpenter? I wonder if he talks like the protagonist in Fight Club? "I am John Carpenter's complete lack fo surprise."<br><br>Now that I think of it, I would actually go see a movie called John Carpenter's Complete Lack of Surprise, but only if it had Ice Cube playing a priest and Kurt Russel as his son and the two have go to a maximim security prision that used to be South America and spring Michael Meyers so that three of them can travel to Antartica and kill Da Thing (played by 50 Cent).

  • July 16, 2007, 12:47 p.m. CST

    So what did I miss in Alien Versus Predator?

    by Spandau Belly

    I never saw it, but you guys are complaining about years after its release so it must be something incredibly awful. Anybody who wants to give me a well thought out critique of this film's flaws and what you would've liked to have seen instead, I would really like to hear it.<br><br>P.S. I do like the first three Alien movies and both Predator films. I just have no interest these franchise showdown films on general principle.

  • July 16, 2007, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Paul WS Anderson vs Carpenter? Nah...

    by Jack Burton

    more like Paul WS vs Brett Ratner. Both are utterly devoid of style and responsible for trashing what were/could have been good franchises. But I would rather watch Anderson's entire filmography than anything from Brett Ratner again. Ratner is a hack to the extreme. I just do not get why his movies are successful. He doesn't make good movies, he makes "ok" movies at best.

  • July 16, 2007, 8:26 p.m. CST

    This *is* happening...

    by Paulseta

    ...the guy writing it was posting about the development meetings with Carpenter and was told to shut up. He was a little overexcited. In any case, it is definitely in active development and in all likelyhood will be the next Carpenter film, unless Psychopath goes first. <CR> You know, aside from the lack of Dean Cundy - which is really, really important in terms of what happened to the great visuals of early Carpenter - the lack of Alan Howarth in the music really bites too. <CR> Howarth did a *lot* to make Carpenter's earlier soundtracks shine - witness the dropoff in soundtrack quality after Prince of Darkness.

  • July 17, 2007, 4:13 a.m. CST

    Piss Weak Script Anderson is Uwe Boll In disguise

    by Lost Prophet

    Except even more annoying as Shopping and Event Horizon are actually quite good- It is the dizzying drop in quality afterwards that is truly, truly scarring. He's never to be forgiven for fucking up Resident Evil- which I honestly believed was the Game franchise begging for film treatment. Seriously, what did the prick turn out? He took basically a haunted house/ zombie premise and gave us hologrammatic computers, stupid tacked on romance, pathetic Amnesia script, shitty surprise ending and a banal thrashy soundtrack. AWFUL. <p>As for AvP if you haven't seen it, don't. Unless you really want to see some classy actors drowned in a mire of unremmitting stupidity, and not in a fun "Leprechaun" or Flash Gordon type of way.

  • July 20, 2007, 1:36 p.m. CST

    The pitch alone sounds brilliant

    by liljuniorbrown

    I mean just based on the premise I would and the idea of Carpenter directing with Kurt Russell staring as a kick as priest is just a killer movie that will probably never get made.