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Herc Must Admit His Stand On HBO’s JOHN FROM CINCINNATI!!

I am – Hercules!!


With the first four episodes of “John From Cincinnati” behind us, we’re about one third of the season in. It is time to check in with viewers.

What did the talkbackers say beneath our last JfC post? The reaction to the first episode was not overwhelmingly positive!

“eppdude” said:

FUCK this show. and fuck David Milch - the cocksucker. Choosing to go with a surfing show over DEADWOOD? It's fucking unforgivable.

“Mel Garga” said:

… sometimes a turd is just a turd no matter whose overrated ass it came from. We're expected to have patience enough to wait for this show to find itself?

“fiester” said:

… I won't watch this crap. Fuck surfers, who gives a shit? I am all for letting creatives do their thing with minimal or no intrusion, but this seems like an bad idea from the get go.

“Add to Friends” said:

… Milch/John from Cinn = Sorkin/Studio 60. Every great is allowed one or two phuck ups in his career.

“jocutus” said:

After the first fifteen minutes I was already sick of hearing the name "Butchy". Can I possibly stand a whole series of that?

“bacci40” said:

ummm....what the fuck was that???? im serious...milch dumped deadwood to create....that???

“Dr Hemlock” said:

I gave up on it after 25 minutes. Cleaning the dinner dishes was more interesting.

“WONKABAR” said:

Uh, that was retarded.

“memento108” said:

What is it with Milch and the F word? I don't mind a FUCK here and there in my television or movies, but Christ, he uses the word more than excessively in this and Deadwood. Why is that? It's actually kinda annoying and distracting.

“Neo Zeed” said:

This show was shitty. The dysfuctional family stuff was pretty mundane and unoriginal. I don't really care to see how the mystical stuff pays off, since the main plot is soooo boring. …
Making a show in which a man floats and no one cares is not automatically deep. It's just lazy writing. It's just easier not deal with it and claim to be Twin Peaks-ish. If a man floated that would be the main topic of conversation for the rest of the century, not if some little kid should or should not surf! Who cares about a Family Channel plot like that anyway?

“SkidMarkedUndies” said:

WTF was that?

“grendel69” said:

Fuck John and the commitee that receives em.

“Hercules” said:

… based on the premise and pedigree and the promos, I sense this series could attract a rabid and vocal cult following by the time its first season concludes.

I wrote that before I saw it. Four episodes in, I am riveted by “John From Cincinnati.” Of all the shows arriving this summer, it is easily the one I’m most excited about.

I love Ramon Gaviota (Luis Guzman) and Meyer Dickstein (Willie Garson). I find hilarious their tireless, deadpan accommodations of the bizarre goings-on. I love the Yosts’ neighbor, the bird-hoarding retired cop Bill Jacks (Ed O’Neill), who thinks John Monad may be a sexual predator. I love Kai (real-life champion surfer Keala Kennelly), who demonstrates a hilarious talent for appraising nonsense. I love the doctor (Garret Dillahunt) who throws away his medical career when he witnesses a resurrection. And I love more than all of them John Monad (Austin Nichols), who owns a handsome pair of Automatic Teller Pants.

If you’ve not seen “Cincinnati,” it’s about residents of Imperial Beach, Calif., the one spot on the map where the United States, Mexico and the Pacific Ocean all converge.

One day, a guy named John Monad appears right on that convergence point. Monad may be an extraterrestrial. He acts just like a R-rated version of the title character from “Starman.” Everything he says is something another character has said since John beamed down to Imperial Beach. John Nomad ... er, Monad still doesn’t seem to know how to use a toilet.

Monad can perform Starman-like miracles, Jenny Hayden. If you ask for $2,800, it magically appears in his Monad’s pocket. (Same with anything else that can fit in Monad’s pants pocket, like a high-limit credit card or a cell phone; you ask for it, Monad’s pants can produce.)

Monad can also make any metal in everybody’s body – metal skull plates, nipple rings, etc. – get really hot. To activate this superpower, Monad need only say, “See God.” Which is supercool.

Once Monad arrives in Imperial Beach, more Jesus-y miracles occur:

* A famous ex-pro surfer named Mitch Yost discovers he can sometimes levitate himself several inches above the ground.

* The famous surfer’s son discovers he can quit heroin without enduring any withdrawal symptoms.

* The famous surfer’s grandson resurrects his neighbor’s parrot.

* When a horrifying surfing mishap turns the grandson into a brain-dead quadriplegic, the same parrot heals that grandson fully.

* When John himself is stabbed nearly to death by half-wit gangsters, a codger named Vietnam Joe – who makes his living helping illegal immigrants over the border – fully heals John.

One hopes David Milch, who created the series, is going somewhere with all this. Even if he’s not, I’m hopeful at least a few talkbackers who bailed a few minutes into the opening episode give it another look.

9 p.m. Sunday. HBO.









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Intrigued by this business...
by Captain Happy
Jul 8th, 2007
12:13:41 AM
I love it
by Pascal
Jul 8th, 2007
12:22:54 AM
Nearly gave up on it...
by Phildogger
Jul 8th, 2007
12:23:56 AM
I am still watching it
by DynamixRo
Jul 8th, 2007
12:25:37 AM
You're an Idiot, Herc
by Mr_Deadite
Jul 8th, 2007
12:28:19 AM
My favorite show on TV. Did you just slip me a roofie?
by happybunni
Jul 8th, 2007
12:32:23 AM
I watch it
by kedohmen
Jul 8th, 2007
12:32:41 AM
Don't say the show sucks unless you've seen two full ep
by happybunni
Jul 8th, 2007
12:34:45 AM
You're an idiot, Mr. Deadite
by Hercules
Jul 8th, 2007
12:36:30 AM
This show, this freakin' show
by MC-909
Jul 8th, 2007
12:39:02 AM
I'm digging the hell out of this series...
by Sledge Hammer
Jul 8th, 2007
12:41:22 AM
Ed O'Neill
by MC-909
Jul 8th, 2007
12:43:20 AM
decent so far
by loafmeat
Jul 8th, 2007
12:46:34 AM
Oh and Herc...
by MC-909
Jul 8th, 2007
12:47:07 AM
Way to go, HERC! Ya cocksucker!
by cutest_of_borg
Jul 8th, 2007
12:48:02 AM
No i've got my EYES on YOU.
by Vonfolger
Jul 8th, 2007
12:49:05 AM
: )
by Mr_Deadite
Jul 8th, 2007
12:50:39 AM
Batshit weird
by Wyrdy the Gerbil
Jul 8th, 2007
12:53:14 AM
Oh, and if Milch *isn't* going anywhere with this
by Mr_Deadite
Jul 8th, 2007
12:53:23 AM
Milch loves his "Deadwood" actors
by cutest_of_borg
Jul 8th, 2007
12:55:19 AM
So everyone I talked to....
by Wheel99
Jul 8th, 2007
12:55:27 AM
All signs point to one season, Wheel99
by Mr_Deadite
Jul 8th, 2007
01:07:15 AM
Haha...y'all are a buncha HBO suscribin' losers!!!
by Shermdawg
Jul 8th, 2007
01:09:11 AM
The show has great potential...
by FuckMichaelBay
Jul 8th, 2007
01:09:19 AM
btw, is there a cleaned up version of...
by Shermdawg
Jul 8th, 2007
01:11:39 AM
It is going somewhere...
by FuckMichaelBay
Jul 8th, 2007
01:12:43 AM
I don't know Butchy instead....
by exie
Jul 8th, 2007
01:39:17 AM
I blame The Sopranos...
by Mr. Osato
Jul 8th, 2007
01:39:23 AM
This is why I watch HBO shows on DVD now.
by Larry of Arabia
Jul 8th, 2007
01:41:47 AM
FuckMichaelBay
by Mr_Deadite
Jul 8th, 2007
01:57:44 AM
people who hate it just got DEADWOOD baggage
by TopHat
Jul 8th, 2007
01:59:20 AM
I must admit, the show has grown on me
by memento108
Jul 8th, 2007
02:14:11 AM
Yeah, I dig it, too...
by kintar0
Jul 8th, 2007
02:24:00 AM
The kid, and the surf chick
by happybunni
Jul 8th, 2007
02:42:37 AM
Milch gets the same crap Scorsese does
by AgentJay
Jul 8th, 2007
02:58:49 AM
Larry of Arabia...
by Luvs269er
Jul 8th, 2007
03:19:06 AM
Right on, Herc.
by Bungion Boy
Jul 8th, 2007
03:32:30 AM
Good call, Luvs269er...
by monster2Bpitied
Jul 8th, 2007
03:39:28 AM
I'm all dumped out...
by superugly
Jul 8th, 2007
03:46:21 AM
"Monad can perform Starman-like miracles"
by newc0253
Jul 8th, 2007
03:47:40 AM
Rachel Ticotin
by John-Locke
Jul 8th, 2007
03:57:56 AM
WHEN DOES THE BABE WHO PLAYS CASS GET EXORCISED???
by Jackson Healy
Jul 8th, 2007
04:14:18 AM
John-Locke...
by Riley Martin
Jul 8th, 2007
04:33:54 AM
Agreed
by happybunni
Jul 8th, 2007
05:21:27 AM
It needs Giant Robots.
by TomBodet
Jul 8th, 2007
06:07:36 AM
Hope?
by Avert Therapy
Jul 8th, 2007
06:59:13 AM
"See God, Kai."`
by kgerm
Jul 8th, 2007
07:14:43 AM
Miracles...
by Henry Fool
Jul 8th, 2007
07:16:59 AM
Way fucking off on at least two points!
by EvilWizardGlick
Jul 8th, 2007
07:26:43 AM
Uh, if this show is so great
by Chest_Rockwell
Jul 8th, 2007
07:31:46 AM
Riveting
by NudeandAroused
Jul 8th, 2007
07:35:13 AM
Love this show
by Avengerdude
Jul 8th, 2007
08:19:13 AM
"That's not a knife." "Yes it is." "Oh, fuck. Run."
by DanielKurland
Jul 8th, 2007
08:24:12 AM
Jenny HAYDEN
by Uga
Jul 8th, 2007
08:51:36 AM
Going downhill, still time to save itself...
by Uga
Jul 8th, 2007
08:53:44 AM
This won't go the way of Deadwood or Carnivale
by Photoman
Jul 8th, 2007
08:53:55 AM
I've seen the first 4...
by samuraisix
Jul 8th, 2007
09:24:25 AM
I like JFC ok.
by PwnedByStallone
Jul 8th, 2007
09:54:12 AM
This show is the best new show on TV. Period.
by Jak0lantern01
Jul 8th, 2007
09:57:41 AM
HipHop-apotamus!
by PwnedByStallone
Jul 8th, 2007
09:59:42 AM
Good Stuff
by stratocaster
Jul 8th, 2007
10:01:00 AM
John NOMAD
by PantherMatt
Jul 8th, 2007
10:09:11 AM
John fuckin Monad!
by Mr. Banner
Jul 8th, 2007
10:33:54 AM
john = jesus
by funnyhat
Jul 8th, 2007
10:47:12 AM
Yeah Herc ... where's the CONCHORDS LOVE?
by LordEnigma
Jul 8th, 2007
10:52:13 AM
Imagine
by Jochapma
Jul 8th, 2007
10:52:50 AM
I made a ARTICLE!!
by SkidMarkedUndies
Jul 8th, 2007
11:05:53 AM
After some thought . . .
by SkidMarkedUndies
Jul 8th, 2007
11:08:54 AM
the theme song ...
by Toe Jam
Jul 8th, 2007
11:09:59 AM
Before the end of the first episode...
by BrooseTheScharuk
Jul 8th, 2007
11:10:06 AM
the guy playing butchie yost ...
by Toe Jam
Jul 8th, 2007
11:14:00 AM
Best part of JFC...
by PwnedByStallone
Jul 8th, 2007
11:39:12 AM
I'm not cryin...
by PwnedByStallone
Jul 8th, 2007
11:41:52 AM
BTW
by PwnedByStallone
Jul 8th, 2007
11:42:24 AM
I'd like to exorcise her demons.
by PwnedByStallone
Jul 8th, 2007
11:42:52 AM
the kid brings this show down
by fried samurai
Jul 8th, 2007
11:47:26 AM
Love the show
by JohnnyS2
Jul 8th, 2007
12:00:19 PM
The kid IS a horrible actor, BUT...
by Somerichs
Jul 8th, 2007
12:03:48 PM
yawn. hbo does lifetime series.
by palewook
Jul 8th, 2007
12:04:02 PM
Last Chance
by Pabodie
Jul 8th, 2007
12:16:33 PM
palewook
by PwnedByStallone
Jul 8th, 2007
12:27:38 PM
Herc just described about 10 miraculous healings
by ScamsAndFlams
Jul 8th, 2007
12:36:14 PM
Cancelled HBO after 3 episodes
by FrodoFraggins
Jul 8th, 2007
12:39:06 PM
What MONAD means
by HermansHead
Jul 8th, 2007
12:47:16 PM
Good call, Herc.
by Nate Champion
Jul 8th, 2007
12:53:20 PM
My brother from another mother!!!
by Nairb The Movie
Jul 8th, 2007
12:57:31 PM
Let's not forget...
by ScarStar
Jul 8th, 2007
12:57:38 PM
Uh... I kinda dig it now
by WONKABAR
Jul 8th, 2007
01:00:18 PM
the kid's acting
by Mr. Banner
Jul 8th, 2007
01:12:54 PM
Herc is wrong, yet again
by Outrider304
Jul 8th, 2007
01:18:49 PM
Maybe on DVD
by fatsackowind
Jul 8th, 2007
01:29:01 PM
sadly, people are right about some of the acting ...
by Toe Jam
Jul 8th, 2007
01:47:56 PM
I am American and demand immediate gratification
by supermarch
Jul 8th, 2007
01:49:27 PM
Called out for being negative.....wow!
by Mel Garga
Jul 8th, 2007
01:54:11 PM
re:Mr.Banner
by fried samurai
Jul 8th, 2007
01:55:03 PM
Have to admit
by AidanJames
Jul 8th, 2007
01:57:13 PM
Toe Jam thats what i'm taking about
by fried samurai
Jul 8th, 2007
02:00:28 PM
fried samurai
by Mr. Banner
Jul 8th, 2007
02:06:03 PM
fried samurai
by Mr. Banner
Jul 8th, 2007
02:07:22 PM
Okay, Herc, We'll work with what we got.
by growltiger
Jul 8th, 2007
02:14:41 PM
John from Dogtown
by Filmrage
Jul 8th, 2007
02:15:16 PM
Fucking great
by Jor-El23
Jul 8th, 2007
02:17:06 PM
What can def be said about JFC
by TheUltraHumanite
Jul 8th, 2007
02:29:24 PM
I fucking love this!
by CACross2
Jul 8th, 2007
02:37:19 PM
Ohhh gosh you're right, Americans have such bad taste
by ScamsAndFlams
Jul 8th, 2007
02:41:27 PM
I got my eyes on you
by cyberelf420
Jul 8th, 2007
03:02:26 PM
Is this REALLY going anywhere?
by MyManD316
Jul 8th, 2007
04:04:21 PM
needs more ninjas and less surfers
by Meatbiscuit
Jul 8th, 2007
04:04:45 PM
Mitch Yost...
by REDD
Jul 8th, 2007
04:09:27 PM
Deadwood is probably one of my favorite shows ever
by Evil Hobbit
Jul 8th, 2007
04:11:17 PM
Sounds like a whole lotta "healing" going on.
by Neo Zeed
Jul 8th, 2007
04:34:20 PM
technically,
by imageburn13
Jul 8th, 2007
05:28:11 PM
Finally
by rbrog77
Jul 8th, 2007
05:31:01 PM
her name is Mel
by imageburn13
Jul 8th, 2007
05:31:53 PM
There are sterling performances in JFC.
by growltiger
Jul 8th, 2007
05:53:20 PM
So are those Deadwood telemovies actually happening?
by Paul T. Ryan
Jul 8th, 2007
08:51:01 PM
its a great show, F the critics
by ls420
Jul 8th, 2007
08:52:18 PM
Loving This So Far, But...
by Mr. Winston
Jul 8th, 2007
08:58:25 PM
ScamsAndFlams
by supermarch
Jul 8th, 2007
09:02:48 PM
There are parts of this show that I really like.
by Mr_Deadite
Jul 8th, 2007
09:26:14 PM
I don't have the slightest clue what's going on...
by twitchinmonkey
Jul 8th, 2007
09:38:50 PM
and on an unrelated subject...
by twitchinmonkey
Jul 8th, 2007
09:47:48 PM
The Emmys
by Mr_Deadite
Jul 8th, 2007
10:03:51 PM
I love this show now..
by Razorback
Jul 8th, 2007
10:22:09 PM
Yes/No/Maybe So
by Chadillac69
Jul 8th, 2007
10:35:55 PM
The Emmys are like the Grammys of TV.
by Pennsy
Jul 8th, 2007
10:45:24 PM
LMAO
by Chest_Rockwell
Jul 8th, 2007
10:47:19 PM
Mr. Banner
by Mr. Winston
Jul 8th, 2007
11:10:35 PM
Sold on Cincinatti
by damiankarras
Jul 9th, 2007
12:13:02 AM
Does JFC stand for:
by Trader Groucho 2
Jul 9th, 2007
01:29:09 AM
Anyone else sick
by Shivv
Jul 9th, 2007
02:01:56 AM
Luke Perry KNOWS...
by theseventhshore
Jul 9th, 2007
03:07:54 AM
theseventhshore
by Mr. Winston
Jul 9th, 2007
04:14:56 AM
I'm a Cinner
by RokurGepta
Jul 9th, 2007
05:27:08 AM
JFC
by cocolopez
Jul 9th, 2007
07:58:13 AM
and
by cocolopez
Jul 9th, 2007
08:00:45 AM
Is the hatred about the show or Deadwood
by jtp8000
Jul 9th, 2007
08:19:26 AM
Okay, I'll give the show a shot.. on demand!
by Redbox
Jul 9th, 2007
08:20:33 AM
Very, Very Slow In Parts
by CinematicallyCorrect
Jul 9th, 2007
08:38:36 AM
The Flight of the Conchords...
by cekma
Jul 9th, 2007
08:46:42 AM
Love it...
by Philvis
Jul 9th, 2007
09:04:59 AM
Bad Acting
by oogabooga
Jul 9th, 2007
09:05:37 AM
Aggravates the shit outa me...
by Roguewriter
Jul 9th, 2007
09:12:17 AM
Shouldn't be too long a wait
by oogabooga
Jul 9th, 2007
09:31:37 AM
I hated the show after 1st episode but got hooked...
by Samuel Steamer
Jul 9th, 2007
09:38:26 AM
The Flight of the Conchords...
by Redbox
Jul 9th, 2007
09:50:46 AM
I'm loving John From Cinncinati easily the most fasci
by CrichtonAstronut
Jul 9th, 2007
10:10:22 AM
And John From Cinncinati DID NOT KILL DEADWOOD!
by CrichtonAstronut
Jul 9th, 2007
10:16:24 AM
I have a feeling we're all
by RedJester
Jul 9th, 2007
10:26:58 AM
and I meant chick surfer, not skater.
by RedJester
Jul 9th, 2007
10:28:05 AM
I LOVE THIS SHOW TOO!
by young1
Jul 9th, 2007
10:52:15 AM
Just watched Entourage
by Evil Hobbit
Jul 9th, 2007
11:10:45 AM
Last night
by rbrog77
Jul 9th, 2007
11:34:53 AM
See God Kai
by The Alienist
Jul 9th, 2007
11:36:26 AM
'Everything about him is awkward ...
by DeadPanWalking
Jul 9th, 2007
12:05:15 PM
"I boned her...and broke her jaw."
by FookU
Jul 9th, 2007
12:12:38 PM
Yeah, I dig it too.
by Ricky Henderson
Jul 9th, 2007
12:16:06 PM
The Rhymenocerous and Hiphopapotamus
by FookU
Jul 9th, 2007
12:16:58 PM
Lord Rando from Cincinnati
by LORDRANDO
Jul 9th, 2007
12:26:42 PM
Spot on, FookU
by Ricky Henderson
Jul 9th, 2007
12:31:56 PM
I just took a dump a grown man can be proud of.
by Big Jim
Jul 9th, 2007
01:07:04 PM
So where's the "John From Cincinnati" talkback?
by Bill Clay
Jul 9th, 2007
01:13:38 PM
"Have a seat...on my face...with your ass"
by fried samurai
Jul 9th, 2007
01:17:09 PM
I can't believe that you people are still blathering..
by glodene
Jul 9th, 2007
02:26:48 PM
*** Death by Surfboard ***
by PlasmaOrb
Jul 9th, 2007
02:28:00 PM
I wasn't saying that BRICK was 'good'...
by theseventhshore
Jul 9th, 2007
02:37:15 PM
ain'tthereanynews?.com
by jimmy rabbitte
Jul 9th, 2007
02:53:20 PM
Started off boring...
by PervOmatic
Jul 9th, 2007
03:00:19 PM
JFC
by TheyCallMeBruce
Jul 9th, 2007
03:40:27 PM
I saw it last night...and it's still no good
by Neo Zeed
Jul 9th, 2007
03:42:02 PM
Best show on TV right now
by Jak0lantern01
Jul 9th, 2007
03:48:10 PM
JakO
by Trader Groucho 2
Jul 9th, 2007
04:24:28 PM
Another good Conchords episode, but...
by DanielKurland
Jul 9th, 2007
06:59:24 PM
DeadPanWalking
by Mr_Deadite
Jul 9th, 2007
09:19:26 PM
yeah, I was a little stand offish, but now...
by Russman
Jul 9th, 2007
09:41:06 PM
Love it.
by director stan arthur
Jul 9th, 2007
10:07:10 PM
Was just thinking how cool it would be...
by Add to Friends
Jul 10th, 2007
01:43:31 AM
PS: has anyone read Kem Nunn's surf noir novels?
by Add to Friends
Jul 10th, 2007
01:52:10 AM
it better start showing something
by ZO
Jul 10th, 2007
09:07:20 AM
CrichtonAstronut
by grendel69
Jul 10th, 2007
09:17:15 AM
How typical..
by The Alienist
Jul 10th, 2007
11:11:51 AM
yeah
by cocolopez
Jul 10th, 2007
11:59:25 AM
re: add to friends
by fried samurai
Jul 10th, 2007
03:30:27 PM
Good show, but...
by B Arthur
Jul 10th, 2007
09:47:43 PM
A resurrection is occurring
by CreedsThoughts
Jul 10th, 2007
09:57:09 PM
HBO has problems
by orthodox bagpiper
Jul 11th, 2007
07:44:10 AM
starting to lose interest
by brotherbradshaw
Jul 11th, 2007
08:59:26 AM
Sunday Night Lineup
by MinasTirithII
Jul 11th, 2007
09:09:58 AM
HBO
by B Arthur
Jul 11th, 2007
07:42:07 PM
Carnivale finale
by Add to Friends
Jul 11th, 2007
07:46:16 PM
"Care to leave a message...on my face...with your ass."
by SouthSide_2010
Jul 12th, 2007
03:09:38 AM
Showtime
by grendel69
Jul 12th, 2007
07:41:47 AM
JOC: Not a knat on the ass of Deadwood or Rome
by uberman
Jul 12th, 2007
12:16:47 PM
Herc! I want your opinion on ep 5
by roboknob
Jul 12th, 2007
12:17:14 PM
they want it smart and stupid
by MinasTirithII
Jul 12th, 2007
01:49:39 PM
Climb out of the hole
by CreedsThoughts
Jul 12th, 2007
08:11:11 PM
I've lived in a family like this...
by AllThumbs
Jul 12th, 2007
08:24:15 PM
My theory
by loretian12
Jul 17th, 2007
01:15:03 AM
Oh.. and
by loretian12
Jul 17th, 2007
01:19:59 AM
I tried...I've given up
by ziah_vaempiir
Jul 23rd, 2007
12:09:27 PM

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