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Who’s Directing Stephen King’s INSOMNIA?!

Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here. I didn’t even realize this one was in development, but it makes sense... eventually, they will film every single word that Stephen King has written, including grocery lists. It’s just unavoidable. So who’s the man with the plan this time around?

Just thought you guys would like to know that Dread Central reported from Fango's Weekend of Horror's about Rob "Wrong Turn" Schmidt directing an adaptation of Stephen King's Insomnia. I don't know what to make of this. The book was good, but so closely linked to the Dark Tower mythos that it was entirely inaccessible to outside readers. Hopefully this won't be Hearts in Atlantis all over again. - Sirand
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  • July 1, 2007, 10:01 p.m. CST


    by complexion


  • July 1, 2007, 10:01 p.m. CST


    by Silverglade

    Didn't we just have a film on Insomnia with Al Pacino and Robin Williams and Hilary Swank?

  • July 1, 2007, 10:02 p.m. CST

    I don't know if this will work as a film

    by Osmosis Jones

    Even by King's standards, it's fucking weird, and excising the Dark Tower elements will take a lot of the story's thrust away (much like Hearts In Atlantis, which was a good movie, but the complete novel was truly excellent). Oh well, only a few months to go until The Mist. And here's hoping for a film version of The Long Walk someday...

  • July 1, 2007, 10:04 p.m. CST

    fucking LOVED the book

    by misnomer

    and I had never read any of the dark tower books. This could work...but Ive got a feeling alot will be lost in translation to film.

  • July 1, 2007, 10:10 p.m. CST

    It Can Work

    by Wrath4771

    I think this could work as a movie. Yes, it definitely ties to The Dark Tower, but in such a way that many things could be described/shown easily without having to tell the whole Tower all over again. I'm sure he would never do it, but Clint Eastwood is my first vote for Ralph.

  • July 1, 2007, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Bag of Bones needs to be adapted....

    by TiVo1138

    M. Night Shyamalan would be the man for the job too. That's right. I said it.

  • July 1, 2007, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Don't think the book was inacessable

    by sonic3305

    to those who didn't read Dark Tower. I read Insomnia before any of the DT books and loved it. Actually, I've been meaning to go back and read it now that I've finished Dark Tower. They better do this movie right.

  • July 1, 2007, 10:54 p.m. CST

    It can't work.

    by OptimusCrime

    They would definitely need to get rid of the Tower elements and in doing so would have to give the boot to the Crimson King and his scene in the airplane at the climax. It's been awhile since I've read this one, but if I remember correctly that'd change the whole thrust of the story. I am curious about how they'll handle Clothos and Lachesis though.

  • July 1, 2007, 11:22 p.m. CST


    by Randall Flagg

    "Ralph, you got to save Patrick Danville." "Why?" "Cuz he's going to save the lives of two men in the future." "Who?" "Uhhh.... that's a whole other movie. Check it out, I hear J.J. Abrams might be directing it."

  • July 1, 2007, 11:30 p.m. CST

    dark tower mythos

    by maxwell's hammer

    All the 'Dark Tower' links could be played as standard sci-fi/horror stuff, and it would be fine. I always thought the cool thing about 'Insomnia' was that it was a cool book, and even cooler if you were in the loop and could spot all the links to the rest of the SK universe.<BR> <BR> And this couldn't possibly be worse than "Hearts in Atlantis", in which they excised so much of the sci-fi it was only a hollow echo of the original story. Plus, they used the title of a completely different story than the one they adapted from that little anthology. That would be like adapting "The Body" and calling it: "The Shawshank Redemption". Der.

  • July 1, 2007, 11:50 p.m. CST

    is JJ doing dark tower?

    by paragraphs

    i forget.

  • July 2, 2007, 12:09 a.m. CST

    The first part of Insomnia, was awesome...

    by Seph_J

    the opening with the 'heavyset man', and the whole paranoia looking out the window thing would be great on film - but later, as things start getting a bit crazy with the doctors I think it will be in danger of switching most audiences off.

  • July 2, 2007, 1:10 a.m. CST

    King doesn't think much of the book.

    by MaxTheSilent

    There's two books I've heard him pretty much dismiss, INSOMNIA and ROSE MADDER.

  • July 2, 2007, 1:17 a.m. CST


    by NachoNegro

    Not true. What he HAS said is that both of those books are departures for him, in terms of HOW he's written them. They both had their core outlines, and endings, firm and in place before he wrtoe a word, whereas generally he starts writing a book without knowing the ending (and sometimes I think it shows with the amount of anticlimaxes he is responsible for). Insomnia is my favourite King novel by far, and certainly the first half is amongst the best work King has ever done. But I very much doubt it's going to be filmed well. Maybe I'll be proved wrong, but I doubt it. You can bet your bottom dollar the abortion subplot will go, and the plane-into-a-building will be revised. Also, I very much doubt we'll see the Crimson King as explicitly as he's portrayed in the book. Ho hum. Perhaps they'll get Ralph and Lois's casting right at least.

  • July 2, 2007, 1:36 a.m. CST

    Clint Eastwood as Ralph

    by NachoNegro

    That would have been absolutely fantastic casting, if this would have been filmed 15 years ago. As it is, although Clint would be perfect for Ralph as he is at the start of the novel, it would be too much of a stretch to accept him as the Ralph that we see later in the book. By the way, if I'm vague, it's because I'm trying not to give spoilers - something very few TBers ever give a shit about. Anyway, I can think of a few people who could fit into this role well.... let me throw in a couple of names. Sam Elliott, and Tom Selleck. Whaddya think?

  • July 2, 2007, 2:01 a.m. CST

    All DT-Related Movies....

    by Fievel

    If Abrams is going to film the Dark Tower (movie/tv/whatever).... From here on out, King needs to try and convince all makers of DT-related movies to create some sort of continuity between the films. Whether it's something mentioned in passing or all the way up to an actor reprising a role, for a lot of King's stories to work they need to relate to each other.

  • July 2, 2007, 2:01 a.m. CST

    One of my favourite King books...

    by Pawprint

    Despite not having read The Dark Tower.<p> Funny that; even though I haven't read The Dark Tower, it seems to have entered my consciousness sufficiently for me to know that was what was being referenced, and to make the book accesible enough.<p> Liking Eastwood as Ralph!

  • July 2, 2007, 2:07 a.m. CST

    Great book but I don't see anybody but...

    by FilmFanatik

    ...Frank Darabont tackling this one. He's the only one who seems to get it right so far. I'm waiting with open arms for The Mist to come rolling in...

  • July 2, 2007, 2:28 a.m. CST

    Atmosphere is key

    by Fourthwall

    Take the first half and make that most of the film - its the atmosphere of the movie that will be key. Stephen King Youtube homage below.

  • July 2, 2007, 4 a.m. CST

    Wow, scarping the bottom...

    by Tourist

    Of the barrel. Like all of Kings work, it's a painless read, but damn...It's a pretty shitty story and concept and mythos. I can't imagine it filming well either. Maybe they could just go back and start re-adapting some of his earlier, quality work. Hell, Running Man could do with a real film.

  • July 2, 2007, 4:14 a.m. CST

    Some of the books sequences would be incredible on film

    by DirkD13"

    The auras if done right would be a visual treat, as would the scene on the hospital roof. Don Ameche would have made an excellent Ralph. What about Albert Finney???

  • July 2, 2007, 4:21 a.m. CST

    The book was utter shit...

    by FilmCritic3000

    And I'm pro-choice but halfway through the book turned into what felt like I'd imagine reading a Planned Parenthood pamphlet would be like, like King handed the writing over while he made a snack. It's a horrible book that I can't see translating to film all that well.

  • July 2, 2007, 5:21 a.m. CST

    i loved insomnia

    by El Borak

    i couldn't put it down.

  • July 2, 2007, 7:26 a.m. CST

    I HATE this book. By far, the worst King book

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    Really. I could not believe how much I didnt like this book, or its lame premise, or its lame bad guys. Was wondering if anyone would have a go on this. The story just isnt good enough.

  • July 2, 2007, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Out of all of King's books..

    by Ironmuskrat

    This is the one that disappointed me the most. A great first half, creepy and mysterious, classic King stuff. The last half spins out of control with the Dark Tower stuff, a weird abortion debate sub-plot and a ending involving a plane that would be better suited for an episode of 24. <p> It been awhile since I read the book, I think I might dig it out and read it again to see if its any better the second time around.

  • July 2, 2007, 7:51 a.m. CST

    What a bloated book this is

    by Dataset

    Pages and pages of how this old man likes to take walks through Derry do not make a great book. Or a movie. And the publisher had the balls at the time to hint that it was a sequel of sorts to IT. This book had as much to do with IT as IT had to do with The Shining. Readers know what I mean...

  • July 2, 2007, 7:56 a.m. CST


    by Randall Flagg

    Kenny Baker, Warwick Davis, & Verne Troyer as Clotho, Lachesis, & Atropos, respectively? Kenny's still alive, right?

  • July 2, 2007, 8:04 a.m. CST

    I could Talk Back on King's stuff all day . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    . . . but come on people, they got the guy who did Wrong Turn??? Crappity shit shit shit.

  • July 2, 2007, 8:06 a.m. CST

    Trash book - can a good director make something of it?

    by Stalin vs Predator

    It wouldn't be the first time a lousy novel became a good film in the hands of a talented director... Hopefully.

  • July 2, 2007, 8:14 a.m. CST

    My take.....

    by BangoSkank

    Spoilers, I guess .................I've got to agree that this is probably King's most bloated book, which is really saying quite a bit. It did grow on me more with a second reading though... I don't think that the DT related material will be all that big of an issue... the Crimson King is essentially the Devil and the boy they are trying to save is a Christlike character... they should be able to keep most of it in without removing a ton like they did with Heart in A. Or so I hope.

  • July 2, 2007, 8:22 a.m. CST


    by BangoSkank

    And I agree with Maxwell's Hammer that the title they used on Heart's in Atlantis was totally fucked ... even with all of the great stuff they removed from the movie, that pissed me off the most.... and I agree with Tourist that The Running Man could do with a proper adaptation.... and I agree with Osmosis Jones that a Long Walk adaptation would be very very cool.... and I agree with generally everyone who is jazzed about the Mist, a movie I've been gleefully anticipating for something-like twenty years. Wow. I'm never this agreeable.

  • July 2, 2007, 8:24 a.m. CST

    That won't be any old grocery list...

    by Boba Fat

    Vegetables, fruit, bread, haunted seat covers for haunted car, flea powder for zombie pets, dehumidifier to deal with a pesky approaching mist....

  • July 2, 2007, 8:28 a.m. CST

    I'm telling you people...

    by RockLobster800

    they should redo The Stand on a LOST scale-so we can bury that Mick Garris thing. Ive said it before but-Nathan Fillion for Stu, Zooey Deschanel for Fran, Joaquin Phoenix as Larry, Juliette Lewis could haul her arse of stage for Nadine and Danny Huston (slimmed down slightly) for Flagg. Nd you best believe I could go on about it. I saw that Garris thing again recently and it makes me weep-such good material basically shat on-the ending where Mother Abigail's ghost pops up every five seconds? What?!And they might as well end it by cheesing it up by saying "truly this was the stand of stands". It was THAT kind of crap. Re-do it now or I'll be forced to raise the cash to do it myself!

  • July 2, 2007, 8:29 a.m. CST

    I'm telling you people...

    by RockLobster800

    they should redo The Stand on a LOST scale-so we can bury that Mick Garris thing. Ive said it before but-Nathan Fillion for Stu, Zooey Deschanel for Fran, Joaquin Phoenix as Larry, Juliette Lewis could haul her arse of stage for Nadine and Danny Huston (slimmed down slightly) for Flagg. Nd you best believe I could go on about it. I saw that Garris thing again recently and it makes me weep-such good material basically shat on-the ending where Mother Abigail's ghost pops up every five seconds? What?!And they might as well end it by cheesing it up by saying "truly this was the stand of stands". It was THAT kind of crap. Re-do it now or I'll be forced to raise the cash to do it myself!

  • July 2, 2007, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Giant Catfish in the Sky

    by godoffireinhell

    Will this movie be worse than DREAMCATCHER? God, I hope so! DREAMCATCHER is friggin' hilarious!

  • July 2, 2007, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Insomnia was fucking horrible. There's a reason *spoil

    by chrth

    ers* that Roland threw his copy in the trash.

  • July 2, 2007, 9:07 a.m. CST

    I read 'Insomnia' before I'd even heard of The Dark..

    by dekionplexis

    Tower, and I thought it was magnificent. Having now read all of Tower, I feel like revisiting it. One of King's best, some unforgettable imagery in that book. Hope this guy keeps it subtle and doesn't turn it into a schlocky wankfest like so many adaptions of King's work.

  • July 2, 2007, 9:08 a.m. CST

    One of King's dullest and drabbest

    by performingmonkey

    I don't care if it's related to The Dark Tower (of which I'm a big fan) it's just a boring read. Maybe cut into a 2 hour movie it will work. What I'm looking forward to most is The Talisman TV series. Has great potential. Weren't they going to do an IT remake? The only way it can be done right is a HBO series where the content can be pushed up to levels the story deserves. I suppose a 3 hour theatrical movie might also work, but it would never be made.

  • July 2, 2007, 9:08 a.m. CST


    by Unlabled

    How about 'Cell', now that is a King book that starts out great and becomes a suckfest halfway through. Ugh, just thinking about that pisses me off.

  • July 2, 2007, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Hey Shortz, F*@K you

    by Superflyfox

    Insomnia is crap just finished reading it. Can't see how it could possibly make a good movie, esp with the main story having 2 OAP's trying to get it on, who would pay to see that?? Sickos!!

  • July 2, 2007, 9:35 a.m. CST

    The IT revamp...

    by RockLobster800

    I recall many moons a go Tobe Hooper was working on an IT sequel tentaively titled Second Helping-IT. Which can be abbreviated as SH:IT. True tale.IT was always better as a book though-the power in it was spending time reminiscing with the characters about the details of the past and you CAN do that in a film/t.v series-but it was betterand a lot richer as a book. The Stand is the way to go....Dark Tower is a little too epic even for an expanded t.v show as it dips its finger in too many pies-what would they still have them land in Kings real world? Or would they meet J J instead?...although if they got Clint in as Colt it would be a nice touch. But still-The Stand...come on...

  • July 2, 2007, 9:58 a.m. CST

    I saw Tommyknockers when I was a kid...

    by RockLobster800

    like...9 or something. And shamefully I have to say the opening credits freaked me out...that restrained music with random shots of the town, while Jimmy Smits runs through the forest...and then you hear all these kids singing and he finds Bobby kneeling before she turns around and we see shes toothless and her eyes and green...I thought that was class. The rest of it was abysmal but then again having now read the book I consider it King-lite anyway...another tale of the troubled writer ala Jack Torrance/Paul Sheldon etc. Still worth a look but its only for Die hard fans. not fans of Die Hard but...oh you know....but yeah, the IT adaptation was pure balls...

  • July 2, 2007, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Why dont they adapt Bag of Bones

    by Lovecraftfan

    What a great book.

  • July 2, 2007, 10:19 a.m. CST

    when are they going to adapt The Breathing Method?

    by RockLobster800

    Just so they can make a Different Seasons boxset? Then again I doubt they ever will-you cant really stretch out that story for a film like-unless they made it an epsisode of the piss poor Nightmares and Dreamscapes series or something. Even if they released a Different Seasons boxset theres only a certain amount of people who might pick up why those films are together-I know guys who cite Shawshank as their favourite film and had no idea that it was a King story, nevertheless featured in the bok that spawned Stand By Me...which I find shocking but, to each his own y'know...

  • July 2, 2007, 10:22 a.m. CST


    by RockLobster800

    the idea for the club in The Breathing Method is a good idea for a show-every week another old man tells a different story, but slowly you begin to see more and more of their personal relationships and character would be like Are You Afraid Of The Dark but...y'know...good...

  • July 2, 2007, 10:23 a.m. CST


    by RockLobster800

    the idea for the club in The Breathing Method is a good idea for a show-every week another old man tells a different story, but slowly you begin to see more and more of their personal relationships and character would be like Are You Afraid Of The Dark but...y'know...good...

  • July 2, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    I loved the book. Thought it was beautiful and heartbreaking. It will never translate onto film. I don't think most people would get it. and I REALLY don't think it should be done by the person who did Wrong Turn. Insomnia isn't a horror novel. The idea's of the book will not be realized on screen. I can't wait for The Mist, it will go down as one of the best and scariest King adaptation ever. IT should be remade but violent as hell and for the big screen. NO MORE MINISERIES. they are gonna fuck up The Talisman, and I don't think they should EVER do The Dark Tower. Because the second we see anyone else as Roland, or Eddie, or anyone from that world, than the ones we've seen in our heads, it will all change and not for the better. It's better left on the page and in the heart. Because we will lose the journey we took with those characters by seeing it on the screen. Lastly, I would have to say my least favorite King book would be Gerald's Game. Good story idea, but better as a short story and not a novel, just went on way too long for me

  • July 2, 2007, 11:09 a.m. CST

    I dont think IT needs to be violent...

    by RockLobster800

    more poignant. It needs good actors-the best part of all Kings books are the characters and their development. If you can get decent actors and a decent script I dont think you need more violence than necessary. You might want to up the scaryness of Pennywise, cos he should be fooking terrifying but that can be done in a variety of methods like....

  • July 2, 2007, 11:16 a.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    I'm just saying as opposed to the TV version. It needs to have a good script because like all King's work it's about the character not the violence. I'm just saying that it needs to rock your fucking socks off like the book did

  • July 2, 2007, 11:23 a.m. CST

    oh right...

    by RockLobster800

    well, the tv version had Tim Curry...and ....John Ritter? Okay Im making excuses for it..and it was rubbish...although I cant imagine anyone outside Curry in that thing in it. Nowadays I reckon they would have to get an unknown or an unrecognisable to do it-give the character a bit more mystery...its still a bi of a long book for just a theatrical film though...

  • July 2, 2007, 11:26 a.m. CST


    by Kamala

    I was hoping for Tim Story! Guess he is too busy with the Jaws "re-imagining" project.

  • July 2, 2007, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Hell, bring Curry back

    by Kloipy

    He was iconic in that roll, no one will forget him. And if they do remake it, I don't want everything to be CGI (which I think is ruining film today, see ghostrider for reference). I do think you are right though, it's a huge book to fit into one film and I highly doubt they would do a Kill Bill with IT. The TV version scared the crap out of me, when I was 5, but rewatching it when I was in my early 20's it does not hold up.

  • July 2, 2007, 11:39 a.m. CST

    The Stand/Mick Garris

    by Kloipy

    I love The Stand(the novel). It is epic and such a page turner. Read it the first time in 2 days because I just couldn't bear to leave the characters. I thought, although very flawed, the mini was ok. It had it's moments of greatness. But I think Mick Garris should be banned from ever doing another Stephen King adaptation again. After the butchering of Desperation, the last act esp., he should go back to doing only Master's of Horror. King's stories aren't meant for TV anyway. They are adult tales, with horror that cannot be captured within the realm of tv censors.

  • July 2, 2007, 1:03 p.m. CST

    The problem with Mick Garris...

    by Abin Sur that King loves the guy, and says he does great work bringing his stories to the screen. Huh? I'd blame it on the car crash, but the Stand TV movie came first. So WTF?

  • July 2, 2007, 1:24 p.m. CST

    This CAN Be Done~~~

    by Shazamike

    Okay, first off, this is my favorite King book...have read it many many times, and the idea of a film based on it is totally doable. James Cromwell was always my Ralph Roberts. (Clint was more Roland, Ralph is really the opposite in most ways...innocent) 1. Those that think it could be fucked up are totally right. The only way not to completely water this amazing work down is to top notch it all the way. Look at the Green Mile. That movie, had it not been don’t with the amazing directing, actors, and production value it was give, as well as strict following of the material, would have simply been lost. But, like shawshank redemption (which is basically written off the page, save for some simplifying) was shown the attention it deserved as it was. 2. Don’t shy away from the supernatural. Like green mile, the viewer could be 'hand held' into the supernatural realm of this movie if they are attached to Ralph and Lois and loathing Ed before all the aura stuff kicks in. 3. Ed Deepneau. This role has to be pivotal. You need to hate this man like you did the antagonists in green mile and shawshank. He needs to be the insane fine line between love and hate. You do those things, and this movie can be outstanding, and with no tower connection. All you need say is that Ralph saved a boy that was going to do important things, and leave him confused, but satisfied. Man, I admit, I am pessimistic (this will probably be another needful things) but I have been surprised before (shawshank and green mile). I sure hope for the latter....*going to read it again

  • July 2, 2007, 1:30 p.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    I hear you man, but if the guy from Wrong Turn does this, it's gonna end up with Clotho killing Ralph 40 feet up a tree with barbwire. The guy will play up any horror aspects, probably make the LBD run a Hostel for Aura's, and end with Lois turning into Mischa Barton wearing a tight wet T-shirt and blowing Atropos to smithereens with a molotov cocktail. If anyone else loves this novel we need to make them stop any sort of production on this film

  • July 2, 2007, 1:35 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    Yeah, i am with you on that. the vast majority of King Movies are on that scale. Man, it drives me nuts as a fan (not a horror fan per say) that most King work is just thrown in that category. people are shocked that stand by me, shawshank and green mile are his. sooooo many of his tales would just be fan-fucking-tastic films if they would just let the scripts do the talking and leave King's name off it except for the subtle credit. But i guess its all about marketing and you want the horror guy if Stephen King's name is attached. Sigh.

  • July 2, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST

    haven't read DT, but love insomnia

    by Holodigm

    however, i'm not too fanboy to admit that its first 100 pages were a real drag, albeit necessary to show the viewer what ralph's insomnia was like. as for the movie, i'm mixed. the auras could be badass, and if paul newman hadn't just retired i'd say he's perfect for it. but the director of wrong turn? and they'll probably trade out the abortion issue for global warming, which has quickly become the new hollywood trend (you could say it's the new hotness? i couldn't resist). overall, i really doubt that this will turn out well, but if it's as great as the book i'll be more than happy to eat my words opening day.

  • July 2, 2007, 1:39 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    What a bloated book this is by Dataset Jul 2nd, 2007 07:51:30 AM Pages and pages of how this old man likes to take walks through Derry do not make a great book. Or a movie. And the publisher had the balls at the time to hint that it was a sequel of sorts to IT. Man, that is crazy. those scenes of Ralph Walking with all the splendor King can describe it are literally seconds of screen time. an old man taking a walk in a world that is beautiful. and gets so much more so when that worlds layers are peeled back and revealed. those things wont take long to show. i admit, we are looking at 3 hours here, but i think they could be a powerful 3 hours.

  • July 2, 2007, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Oh I know

    by Kloipy

    I can't tell you how many people I've had to convince that he wrote Shawshank and Green Mile and The Body(Stand by Me). Too many directors of his films take all of the magic of his stories away by making it just a standard "horror/effects" movie a la Dreamcatcher, and take away all of the character that makes his stories so powerfull. Even in his short stories the plight and the realization of character is the foundation of the story, not the horrific event itself. It's been so long since anyone has captured that spirit of his work. Darabont is gonna do it with The Mist.

  • July 2, 2007, 1:46 p.m. CST

    So much love for Insomnia??

    by Superflyfox

    I really don't get it...? I love King and I've read nearly everything he has done, but Insomnia sucked big time. It's just plain boring, it's all over the place. Could someone please point out what is so damn good about the book???

  • July 2, 2007, 1:47 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    The mist is going to rock. His short stories are easier to make movies of (stand by me and shawshank being prime examples) because otherwise you are in 3 hour land which is a tougher needle to thread. the other option of course is miniseries. you know, i watched Carnivale last year, and in that setting a King novel can fully be done. The Stand would be perfect in that set of circumstances. Simply perfect. immune to the rules of TV, or how the standard set up goes, that is where it would shine. An entire episode in Las Vegas where stu and company are not shown at all, instead Lloyd and Trashcan Man are the babyfaces of the eipisode and Flagg is the bad guy to help with tension. truely epic. The dark tower if it comes to the screen at all i believe should be done in some form of animation. thats the only way for that one, and it would have to be at least 7 episodes long. its simply too big otherwise.

  • July 2, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    hey man. i have a friend who is in your shoes. since highschool we have bought every King book at the same time as they came out and read them about the same pace and would go to Denny's and talk about them over pie. I LOVE Insomnia like no other book and hold it higher than all his other books, save for the tower itself. Conversly, he thought it was basicaly what you said, save for some great parts here and there. I think its a matter of the action vs the 'just happy to be here' feeling. i loved the 'boring parts'. its the character development that makes most people think wizard and glass is the worst of the tower series. some people love the development phase because they are more attached when those that they love are in the evil bald doctors lair and the suspense is killing you cause you dont want anything to happen to he that you now love, or he is on a plane and you cant stop reading even tho you have an exam in the morning because you cant bear to see ralph die. its just a matter of opinion but i think this book is Kings best work save for the tower and the stand. (eyes of the dragon is next after for me)

  • July 2, 2007, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Superflyfox and Shazamike

    by Kloipy

    Insomnia is a great study about aging and finding new life. The character of Ralph and Lois and their interaction is just incredible. Does the book take a lot on and maybe lose focus here and there? Yes. But through it all, it is a beautiful story. It's not horrific, yes it has moments of it, but mostly it's a story of dealing with getting old, and what it means to die. I thought it was enthralling and I recomended it to a lot of people. Shaza, I agree if Stand were on HBO it could be good, but I just don't think they should even try DT. Those books are just too perfect to be messed with to fit into a movie. I know people say that LOTR was amazing, but I think DT has a lot more going on that just couldn't work and I for one, never want to Roland on screen. He is only a fairy tale character, and no one could do him justice

  • July 2, 2007, 1:59 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    Okay, your LOTR comment i think is very very valid. i think to do the Tower right you would have to let it simmer for years and years and have someone removed who Loves it like a child do it. Peter Jackson, who never met Tolkien did what i (who read most years since 10 years old) thought no film maker could ever do. its a totally right comparison, and i think it would take similar circumstances for the Tower to be done properly. Save it for our Grand Children and it could be what LOTR was and is to us. Can you imagine 7 years in a row stephen king dominating cinema and Fans clammoring for the next Dark Tower Movie? man, that would be crazy.

  • July 2, 2007, 2 p.m. CST

    Good idea Nacho

    by missinglink

    I definately could see someone with the weight of Tom Selleck or Sam Elliot in the role of Ralph. If I remember correctly there is a bit of listening to Ralph's thoughts and if you were to do a voice over as action is happening, who better than a solid character actor with a deep resounding voice that resonates. Sam might be just a bit old, but Selleck with good make up could definately make the progression required. Also might be fun to cast him as his right political leanings could definately make the whole abortion issue in the story interesting on the promotion circuit. Still hope they do right by this story. It was one of my first true exposures to King. Knew of Dark Tower and other stories, but had never read a whole book til this one and have read it several times since as it still moves me and draws me into the world it is composed of. God don't let them screw this story up. Also how about Wallace Shawn (Vizzini from Princess Bride) and Clint Howard as two of the three docs?

  • July 2, 2007, 2:04 p.m. CST

    It would be amazing, but...

    by Kloipy

    I started reading DT when I was 12 and slowly read them from then on up till I was 23 when I finally finished. I reread the first 5 twice just to bring me back to speed with what I had missed, for me, it was a journey that I never wanted to end. I even bought the anthology of sci-fi/fantasy writers that Little Sisters of Eluria first appeared in. I mean I grew up with these characters. And as meloncholy for me as it was to finish the books, that's where the journey stopped. I was done. Not that I lost any love for it. But I felt like I knew these people, I'd seen these worlds, I'd lost friends who I had known for years. And it's a beautiful memory in my mind. And i only want to remember it that way. When it was real and not just someone else's vision of that journey. But the one I took

  • July 2, 2007, 2:05 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    holy that is creepy. Vizzini from princess bride was always in my head as our evil Dr that begins with an A. wow.

  • July 2, 2007, 2:08 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    you have just explained PERFECTLY how my Older Uncle feels about LOTR. that is how he grew up. that is what he thought. what does he think of the movies? somethings great, others average. but he is happy the spotlight has been pointed back to tolkien, for me and my '30 and under crowd' to appreciate. i would love to be in my 60s and they make a DT set of movies that hold a candle to the book.

  • July 2, 2007, 2:16 p.m. CST

    I also don't think they should make Cell

    by Kloipy

    I liked about 3/4 of that book, but the end was just too much for me. I don't think the world is ready for the flying zombie, and if Eli Roth directs it, I'm sure it's gonna suck. I don't think he has the talent to create mass hysteria. And if it ends up with Red Hood getting his dick cut off, I'll be very upset

  • July 2, 2007, 2:39 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    LOL! yeah, i know what you mean. my opinion of All his material is bascially what i feel about insomnia (tho for that one i have so much more a vested interest in as its my favorite). the best King movies are true to the source material. not altered. adapted and simplified perhaps. you know there is a reason the books sell millions in a world that has moved on from books in so many ways. because the material is perfect, so let your ego out of the way and dont fuck with it. i want the eyes of the dragon done. i think it would be a fucking blockbuster. people want a fairy tale with dragons and wizards again. and its totally tellable on screen. it would be awesome.

  • July 2, 2007, 2:45 p.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    Yeah that could def. work, I think. You know, King has gotten so much shit over the years being bashed by the critics as a hack. But just look over the body of work he has produced. How many people love his stories not just for the horror, but for the telling of it. His books will be remembered forever. I just wish he would get the credit he deserves, not just the "lets jump on the Lisey's Story" bandwagon. The guy knows how to capture the reader, even in a short story. Look at Grandma, or Autopsy Room 4, The Mist, THE LONG WALK. I mean, damn, those are some amazing examples of writing. Survivor Type. I could go on and on

  • July 2, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    People are always going to Shit on the best. i live in Canada, and i can tell you when the Edmonton Oilers had their dynasty and Wayne Gretzky was DOMINATING the sport of hockey people were shitting on him like crazy. they would look at a 'weaknesss' of his and totally slam him for it. till he got traded, but mostly till he retired. then suddenly all these haters came back and called him Canadas greatest hero. well, the same will happen with King. 20 after he dies they will have university english classes on his work just like Tolkien is today. what we are seeing in film about him is short term. 20 years after he dies he will be known as a writer, not a horror writer.

  • July 2, 2007, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Stephen King 101

    by Kloipy

    that's a class I would enjoy

  • July 2, 2007, 2:58 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    okay, i mean, even take a look at the running man. now, yes, the movie was a hollywood version of what the novel held, but look at the concept... reality TV dominates today. and its only a matter of time before someone dies on one of these shows, which many are jonesin for anyway. when did King write that? mid 80's? the warefare. Ebola happened 18 years after he wrote the Stand. but his detractors will never admit this. silly silly. King is one of the great minds of our generation. He simply chooses to fictionalize our core fears, and, the core of where we are. after all, no one will care about privacy issues or germ warefare if there are zombies involved.

  • July 2, 2007, 3:03 p.m. CST

    The Long Walk

    by Kloipy

    was so ahead of it's time, and it get's scarier and scarier everytime I read it. It's such and amazing story.

  • July 2, 2007, 3:08 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    and how about Rage? i mean, i know King is regretful how he wrote it, but it was there and obviously it was in others heads too right? i mean, Rage 20 years later was a true story called Collumbine. The dude has his finger on the pulse, and is brave enough to go down these rabbit holes that are really exclusive to our generation. they seem simple to us but really, he is accounting on some things that wouldnt be otherwise on how we think. its crazy how he documents us without doing it because he throws a monster in here and there.

  • July 2, 2007, 3:11 p.m. CST

    it's because

    by Kloipy

    most people who like to act like they are so artistic, look down on King's work without actually reading it. They think it's just low brow because some of it is horror. They are so busy giving rim jobs to Faulkner or Burroughs that they can't take the time to really see the impact and what an amazing writer King is

  • July 2, 2007, 3:13 p.m. CST

    you nailed it.

    by Shazamike

    that is exactly right. but its temporary. like Van Gough when he was alive, or again, even Tolkien. they were vastly more appreciated when they were gone. i am just glad King got to cash in before that happened and build a baseball field and whatever the hell else he wants to do before the end. i am very happy he found success in that matter. but his grand kids are going to be even richer.

  • July 2, 2007, 4:54 p.m. CST

    I loved Insomnia....

    by Jimmy Jazz

    One of my favorites. Great atmosphere. Appealing, atypical protagonist, creepy bad guys. I am not a huge King fan, but that one was worth the hype. I might make an interesting movie, but I don't see this director making it.

  • July 2, 2007, 5:22 p.m. CST

    The Long Walk

    by Ironmuskrat

    One of favorite King Stories and I can see it becoming a movies someday. But look for the kids(teens) to be replaced by grown adults. Doing that of course will ruin the impact and sense of dread of the story for me.

  • July 2, 2007, 5:25 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    okay, i just am re reading Eyes of the Dragon, and i have to ask all out that have read it to tell me if i am on crack that this would be a fucking blockbuster as a film....i forgot how amazing this book is....

  • July 2, 2007, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Well,at least it´s more adaptable than From a buck 8...

    by Judge Doom

    And they are doing From a buick 8! Now give me: 1 - IT as a kick ass HBO mini-series. It´s all about the charachters and atmosphere, not so much the gore (althoug that would be great as well). Just give us The House in Neilbolt (?) street, a decent giant spider in the end, and the entire Derry background, and you got a hit! 2 - Dark Tower as a state of art CGI movie... let´s see how Bewoulf will turn out. that may be the way. Oh,and of course, get Eastwood to make ROLAND´S entire voice work PRONTO!

  • July 2, 2007, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Ebola happened 18 years after King scrawled his thing?

    by JackPumpkinhead

    Oh, really? Damn, I didn't know King did that overstretched knockoff as a small kid! But hell, if it was 18 years, then he must have, considering that Ebola "happened" in 1976... ("dumdumdumdumdum!")

  • July 2, 2007, 7:14 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    sorry, was referring to the US scare in TX

  • July 2, 2007, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Dark Tower and Insomnia??

    by mobywood

    I'll freely admit to having never read a work of the Dark Tower saga... yet clearly remember loving every chapter of insomnia. What;s this 'outsiders' bull shit? Oh, and while we're talking about King, I've just finished Lisey's Story... it was OK, but Insomnia pisses on it from a great height!

  • July 2, 2007, 10:22 p.m. CST

    can anyone tell me

    by Bloo

    about his new Bachman book, Blaze? Is it good like Rage, Running Man, Long Walk good or is it ok like Regulaors?

  • July 2, 2007, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Rocklobster's cast

    by Randall Flagg

    Nathan Fillion - Just like Gary Sinise, not old enough to play Stu - Joaquin Phoenix - too pretty for Larry; Adam Storke was actually an excellent choice - Zooey as Frannie - Good choice, though it's not like it'd be hard to improve on Molly Ringwald - Juliette Lewis as Nadine - This one was a joke, right? - Danny Huston as Flagg - Interesting choice (you chose him because of his grin, I'm guessing?), but I just don't see it. Granted I also believe that all the actors with enough charisma to play Flagg are also now too old to play him.

  • July 3, 2007, 6:24 a.m. CST


    by DirkD13"

    The Running Man adapted faithfully would kick-fucking-ass. I've always envisioned Denzel Washington as Killian. Narrow escapes, car stunts, various disguises and that awesome blood-soaked aeroplane finale! Bring it on.

  • July 3, 2007, 7:12 a.m. CST


    by RockLobster800

    yeah, Huson was chosen partially due to the grin but if you watch him in The Proposition he does have the mixture of intense danger and charisma to pull it off. When you get past the irish accent like.Plus as he's not that well known as a mainstream ator he would give Flagg the oppurtunity of being played by an experienced thesp but who is a mystery to the audience. When I was readin the book thouh I could only picture a Cuckoos nest era Jaaaaack thouh-and hen when I watched the adap and jamey sheridan waltzed on I was like "wha?!". A lot of his performance was okay actualy but when he strted turnin into a demon every five seconds I abandoned all hope for the thing-I thought that completely robbed the maic of Flagg myself. But I'll stand by the rest of my cast althouh I always like to hear alternate ideas like...

  • July 3, 2007, 7:12 a.m. CST


    by RockLobster800

    damn laptop

  • July 3, 2007, 7:12 a.m. CST


    by RockLobster800

    damn laptop

  • July 3, 2007, 8:40 a.m. CST


    by Abin Sur

    David Thewlis (Professor Lupin from the Harry Potter movies) - he's got strong British acting chops, and he is almost the spitting image of the picture of Flagg from the final DT book (the one where's he's got the hood over his head).

  • July 3, 2007, 8:52 a.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    never thought of that, but damn your right he's pretty dead on.

  • July 3, 2007, 9:16 a.m. CST

    aww man...

    by RockLobster800

    I hate tha picture of Flagg! Just because he doent loo a think like I pictured him...he looked like the old un-sinister fart who lves down the road from me!

  • July 3, 2007, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Flagg pic

    by Randall Flagg

    I always thought that one looked like a young-ish James Cromwell.

  • July 3, 2007, 9:51 a.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    Just as long as he doesn't have a mullett this time, I'd be happy

  • July 3, 2007, 3:49 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    yeah man! i almost wish they could do a new running man faithful to the book. i really thought it was awesome... as for the Flagg Discussion, What about gabriel byrne?

  • July 3, 2007, 3:51 p.m. CST


    by Shazamike

    hey hey man...yeah, i can see why those that have read the Tower series would think that, because when you have read it the whole book basically has stuff to do with the series. if you loved insomnia i HIGHLY recommend you read the dark tower series. you might even see a character or two from insomnia in it:)

  • July 3, 2007, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Gabriel Byrne

    by Randall Flagg

    Byrne has the intensity, but he's not exactly attractive. At least in The Stand, Flagg is the epitome of seduction, and to me that has always included his physical appearance. Nadine was no dummy, and it's not like she was attracted to him for his magical abilities. RockLobster mentioned Joaquin Phoenix as Larry above, but he actually might be better suited for Flagg. He definitely has the look of someone who could transmogrify into a crow at will.

  • July 4, 2007, 8:44 a.m. CST

    you know on the IMDB...

    by RockLobster800

    it says Jeff Goldblum was offered Flagg before Sheridan. Seriously. I cna actually dig Joaquin as him maybe...although he's a bit young...although it could be a few years until the character ends up on screen again so he might be old enough then!