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Boris & Natasha look at a test screening of THE WILD WILD WEST!!!
Hey pardners, Harry here, this time with the other film that Moriarty should've created a clone to go see... but who the hell needs a clone... We had another pair of AICN evil geniuses checking WILD WILD WEST out.... That's right... Boris and Natasha. These spies are soooooo in vogue at the moment that Rene Russo and Jason Alexander are so enraptured by the calamatous couple that they are playing them in a big budget live action Universal movie named after their nemesis.... Bullwinkle (not being played by Joe Farrell) This was an extremely rough print of the film. And is not the final film. Many changes will be made between now and release... but hey... When STAR WARS was about halfway done, Spielberg's quote was "OH MY GOD" Now Will Smith has been chiming off that this movie will bury STAR WARS... SO let's see if the movie... even in it's rough state has left Boris and Natasha a pair of drooling piles of protoplasm...
Boris and Natasha here. Last night, after
being foiled once again by Moose and Squirrel, we thought we'd attend a
screening of at our local Googolplex.
First off, there were many geeks in the line for the movie. I'm sure ours is
not the only review that your going to receive from this screening. We heard
geekspeak everywhere. The great thing about us geeks, though, is our ability
to blend in. The suits couldn't distinguish us from the regular folks.
By the way, the suits were out in force and there were limos everywhere. They
told us we were here for a screening of Matrix. A screening of a movie that
comes out in two weeks? Come on. We knew something was up. In line they told
us, "How would you like to see "The Wild Wild West" instead?" There were many
groans but the theater filled up anyway.
By the way. they searched us with hand held barking metal detectors on the way
in.
On to the movie. We'll give you both of our reactions separately.
Here's Boris' opinion:
I'll try to keep this spoiler free, but I may get into it a bit. I must stress
that what I saw was a very rough cut. Lots of non-finalized shots (had that
video look to them), unfinished special effects, etc. I got the feeling they
kind of slapped this together to get our reaction to characters, special
effects etc. At least, that's what I hope because they didn't build to the
action scenes very well.
I didn't watch the series that this is based on a lot, but I did watch it
occasionally. I think this movie will disappoint fans of the series. But let's
face it, people who watched the series are not the inteneded audience for this
movie. The crowd that the suits drafted for the screening was 90% 25 and
under.
The opening sequence is really poorly edited. I mean, they should just cut the
whole thing out. It was horrible. Also, there are also some things in the
movie that just don't make sense (like, how long can a black man dressed as a
cowboy walk around a white party in the deep south shortly after the Civil War
without getting a reaction from any of the guests? Apparently, quite a long
time.)
There are some pretty funny jokes though, which I don't want to ruin. But a
lot of the jokes miss. I think we had a couple suits sitting near us during
the screening cuz they laughed at everything for the first half of the movie,
often when no one else in the theater was laughing.
Will Smith's character is pretty generic, lacks that Jim West charm from the
TV show. But Will Smith does have a lot of charisma, so he's all right to
watch. Selma Hayek is good for a while but then she gets whimpy and doe-eyed.
Kenneth Branaugh is making some money here, and that's all there is to say
about that. Kevin Kline is okay but I wish he was a bit more geeky.
But here's a great reason to see the movie: Selma Hayek in lingerie, talking
in her sexy voice, and the upper part of her bare butt, twice. Rrrroooowwwwww!
Ah, if they only put these scenes on a two-hour loop. But I digress...
Special effects - the spider looks good. Kind of looks like what would happen if
one the bugs in Starship Troopers was put into one of Jeff Goldblum's pods
from The Fly, along with an Imperial Land Walker from Hoth, and an Erector
set, and then sent across the room to the other pod and got all meshed
together into one creature.
Overall, if they clean the movie up, it should be a typical summer action
movie, but not a great one. If I remember correctly, the guy who directed the
movie is the same guy who directed MIB and the Addams family. This movie lacks
the quirkiness of those movies, which is really too bad.
Natasha's opinion:
OK. Here goes: Will Smith's bare butt. This was the only good thing about
the opening sequence. And a yummy butt, indeed. I was put off by the whole
confusing opening sequence. Very poorly edited, and I felt as if I had been
dropped into the middle of the movie. The opening credits were very well
done, Will Smith's new song was gerat. It was rap, and for some reason, I
just can't get into rap in an old Western movie. Strange.
The rest of the movie was fun, but I had a really hard time accepting all the
strange machinery (tanks, spiders, planes, etc.) this was supposed to be shot
in the 1800's just after the Civil War, and was a bit outlandish. I know this
was a rough cut of the final film, but I was distracted by the poorly edited
special effects and action sequences. I found a few continuity problems with
the gadgets on the train that played essential roles in the action sequences.
This undermined the believability of the movie.
Kevin Kline had a good role, but there wasn't a lot of chemistry between him
and Will Smith. He seemed bored. He looks pretty good in drag. Salma Hayek
started off as the movie's heroine, but I was greatly disappointed in the way
her character turns out. She is a beautiful, and somewhat talented actress,
and I would have enjoyed her character if the director hadn't screwed up her
part. Kenneth Brannaugh's bimbo, S & M henchwomen were tougher than she, and
that just isn't right, man. Poor Salma. Kenneth Branaugh's bad-boy,
wheelchair bound villain is silly. Could have been a clever scary guy if they
had not taken away so many vital body parts. His funky beard was pretty cool.
The movie lacked the wierdness of MIB and that was very dissapointing. MIB
had my attention from frame one, and it never slowed down. WWW lacked the
flow and constant visual excitement of MIB. I think it has the potential for
a fun summer action flick, but it will definately not be the best one.
Harry here again... As you can see... they were not completely charmed by the film. Oh well... Let's hope that as the film progresses it picks up on it's action and comedy beats... That a final score will make a great tone to the film that will unite it. Personally, I wish this film had stuck to it's original casting concept of George Clooney and Kevin Spacey. That... That my friends would have been something to get excited about. I'm afraid that coveted 'triple-crown' that Will Smith covets... may be just out of his grasp this time out. But we'll see.
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Wild, Wild, West will the second biggest hit of the summer right behind Episode I. I never really understood the casting of Will Smith as Jim West, but I'm sure he can pull it off. He is the Fresh Prince for God's Sake. Is their anybody else out there that hates the song "Gettin Jiggy With It"? As for Wil's streak, I heard he is doing a love story with his wife Jada Pinkett, and she wrote and will direct it. The streak ends there, even Carlton wouldnt want to be in that one.
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This flick's not gonna make 1/2 as much money as the movie exec.s are expecting it to. My guess....$85-90 million tops.
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The only streak Will Smith has on a regular basis is something I'd rather not mention... Oh, and the subject line was intended as SARCASM. Now excuse me while I hug and kiss some poisonous snakes.
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Judging from the two reviews above, this film sounds like 1999's answer to last summer's double flop of GODZILLA and THE AVENGERS, two heavily hyped movies which amounted to nothing. Granted, this was only a rough cut of the film, and I'm sure there will be gratuitous tweaking between now and July, but ... all I can say is I wish Kevin Spacey was in it.
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The thing I was most struck by in Boris' review was the racist statement he made about blacks in the West. Check your history, dude, the first black member of congress was during reconstruction. And there were plenty of cowboys of color. And judging from other reviews I have seen from this screening, Will does a damned good job, there is lots of great action, and one thing everyone agrees on is that Will and Salma both have great asses. One other thing everyone seems to agree on is that the movie isn't nearly finished and the special effects are just not there yet. I personally want this one to work, as much for the fact that it is so original an idea to begin with...spies and agents in the old West?!?...that the TV series was a classic, and it worked on that level precisely. When was the last time you saw a comedy Western fantasy spy action movie? Bring it on!
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Sometime the hyper-sensitivity of people is funny. A black man in a room full of white people is going to stick out. And check your history, there was a little bit of racism back in the old west. Why do you think the black sheriff in Blazing Saddles is so funny? Will Smith is destined to finish his home-run of shit. ID4, crap. MIB, tolerable. Enemy of the State, cliche. WWW, destined to be crap. I like the Fresh Prince television series, but Will Smith has seemed to constantly put himself in carbon copy roles that could be filled by anyone. Generic film with special effects. The fact that he said WWW will bury Star Wars shows that his ego is sadly in need of a reality check. Special effects don't make a good movie. Hollywood needs to learn that.
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This is beginning to wear kinda thin now, and I'm sorta hoping that it tanks just to give Willy Boy a healthy dose of reality and humility. Being a one time Fresh Prince fan who followed his exploits into the world of television and film, it sorta pisses me off to see how cocky he's getting. I think he's capable of a bit more. Anybody see "Six Degrees Of Separation"? Maybe he should try that sorta thing again if he wants to be taken seriously. He should just quit playing the same damn role in every movie and start exploring his talents rather than boasting the labelling of July 4th weekend as "Big Willie Weekend". That as well as thinking that WWW will sink TPM. If not, I guess Tinseltown would just have swallowed another one.
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Will Smith sucks. WWW is going to suck. EPISODE 1 is going to beat the living hell out of this piece of crap. I'll find the pics of Salma's ass on the internet, and spend the 8 bucks I saved there to watch the Phantom Menace again. Fuck Will Smith.
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This movie is going to bomb. Yet another movie that sacrifices plot for special effects. It looks absolutly terrible. Save your money and see Star Wars for the 10th time.
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Mar 26, 1999 3:16:06 PM CST
ROBERT CONRAD AND ROSS MARTIN- THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE WILD, WILD
by uncapie
Nuff said.
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HEY STAR WARS IS KEWL IT IS GOING TO R0000000LL!!!!!!! Grow the hell up. Harry, you'd think that after this long you'd have been able to cull your list of spies to include only the people who can write a coherent review. First of all, I love this stuff about how fans of the series aren't going to like it; these are the same people who have been bitching about will smith as james west from the get-go. (See above for some eloquent comments from those quarters.) Somehow you can recast a shakespeare play into modern dress without people freaking out, but alter a character from a tv series -- a goddam TV SERIES -- and the geeks freak. The review is crack-headed from there on in. "Will Smith has a lot of charisma, so he's all right to watch." Yes, he's actually 100's of millions of dollars in box office returns worth of all right. What I also didn't get was the endless description of how bizarre the spider machine was, and then the final analysis -- that the movie is a "typical" action movie. You know, all the geeks always complain about the same old crap coming out of Hollywood -- and I'm one of them -- so what up with something offbeat getting slammed like this? At least give a good reason. And Natasha -- you didn't understand the strange gadgets? It undermined the believability? It's a SCI-FI MOVIE, for fuck's sake. The fact that it's set in the old west is what makes me want to see it. And you know, you're right, it's probably not believable at all. Just like landspeeders, hyperdrives, lightsabers and talking gay robots. And we all know how unpopular that stuff is. -
Okay, I've seen a lot of the comments about geeks who loved the show bitching about the same old shit. Thing is, what's the point of making a movie based on a TV show if it is completely different?! Now don't start giving me the "it's based on a TV show" shit and that "it's adapted for blah blah" bullshit. Look, I like Will Smith. His rap is almost the only tolerable rap out there. On top of that, even though ID4 and MIB were shitbombs, I still enjoyed them. However, James West was a white guy working for the Secret Service in the Old West. Sorry, even if there were black men in Congress during Reconstructionist times, do you actually think they would pick a black man to be a spy? Uh, how 'bout....NO! That's not racist. I already said I liked the guy. It just doesn't fit in this flick. Yeah, it's sci-fi, it's fantasy, and I fully embrace that, but come on. And what's the deal with Kenneth Shakespeare playing Dr. Lovelace? A midget!!! In the TV show Dr. Lovelace is played by Michael Dunn, the midget. That's what made that villain so cool. And he is the most reoccuring arch-nemesis James West had. Duh! That's the whole gimmick of that character. So come on, what's the point of making the movie based on the TV show when it's not even close. I don't care if kids today never saw the original WWW and wouldn't know. Trust them. The TV show still kicks ass. It would work today as well. In fact, with a cool, funky score (like Sonnenfeld usually goes for) a midget villain would be perfect. They overshot this fucker by too far and smashed into the barn. Poor Bastards. Oh, and hey, Will Smith saying it's going to blow SWE1 out of the water....that's called sarcasm. He's making a jest. Sad thing is, it's gonna make money. Woof!
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Okay, I've seen a lot of the comments about geeks who loved the show bitching about the same old shit. Thing is, what's the point of making a movie based on a TV show if it is completely different?! Now don't start giving me the "it's based on a TV show" shit and that "it's adapted for blah blah" bullshit. Look, I like Will Smith. His rap is almost the only tolerable rap out there. On top of that, even though ID4 and MIB were shitbombs, I still enjoyed them. However, James West was a white guy working for the Secret Service in the Old West. Sorry, even if there were black men in Congress during Reconstructionist times, do you actually think they would pick a black man to be a spy? Uh, how 'bout....NO! That's not racist. I already said I liked the guy. It just doesn't fit in this flick. Yeah, it's sci-fi, it's fantasy, and I fully embrace that, but come on. And what's the deal with Kenneth Shakespeare playing Dr. Lovelace? A midget!!! In the TV show Dr. Lovelace is played by Michael Dunn, the midget. That's what made that villain so cool. And he is the most reoccuring arch-nemesis James West had. Duh! That's the whole gimmick of that character. So come on, what's the point of making the movie based on the TV show when it's not even close. I don't care if kids today never saw the original WWW and wouldn't know. Trust them. The TV show still kicks ass. It would work today as well. In fact, with a cool, funky score (like Sonnenfeld usually goes for) a midget villain would be perfect. They overshot this fucker by too far and smashed into the barn. Poor Bastards. Oh, and hey, Will Smith saying it's going to blow SWE1 out of the water....that's called sarcasm. He's making a jest. Sad thing is, it's gonna make money. Woof!
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Okay, whoever said the thing about why these reviews are dumb, i agree completely. People's memories of TV shows are often based on mindless nostalgia, and christ knows angry little nerds like to rant and rave about how everything is "ruined" and about how Whatever New Movie Is Out "sucks so bad" or something. Fuck that. Godzilla was passable, the Avengers was amusing, and Dark City was amazing, so you all can just get the fuck over it immediately. I don't care if they change some old TV show a bit; "based on" means just that, not "scene for scene recreation."
Secondly, Harry, I like your site quite a bit, I visit it often... but I see some merit to the criticisms that you try to lay negative (or positive) word on a film too easy. I like reading test-screening reviews, but I find it fascinating, in a really idiotic sort of way, how if "Boris & Natasha" are quesitonable about it, you assume they are at least partially Quite Right. Sure, sometimes it turns out to be Batman & Robin and your forewarning is apt, but just as often it's a bunch of anal geeks (and don't get me wrong, i like geeks.. geeks with a sense of humor, geeks who keep things in perspective, geeks who aren't so fucking uptight) doomsaying cos .. well, it's what anal geeks do. I saw Six String Samurai a week or so ago... and came back and reread all of the "this is the coolest movie i've ever seen"-style reviews on here, just to make sure i wasn't hallucinating. People who love SSS but really "hate" The Avengers or Godzilla or Independence Day or whatever.. are fucking deluded. SSS was well-directed shite. Nice camera work, nice concept, but as dumb & irritating as it was cool, if not more so. That kid? Fucking horrible, that whine of his was grotesque. Seriously. And the "awesome" fight scenes... well, they were pretty impressive given that it's a low-budget movie.. other than that, jesus fucking christ, the seams were showing. Not that the Avengers or ID4 are the best movies ever made, but they're not as flat-out irritating as something like SSS... i was at least consistently interested in Avengers and ID4; the world of SSS was too pleased with its own "coolness", and I never really got into it. Sorry, got a bit off topic here. But Harry, you shouldn't start being all doubtful, or even more than 2% doubtful, about movies like that after reading two anal, dumb reviews (continuity errors in a Will Smith fun action movie?!? oh no, the horror!! sci-fi in the mid-1800's!! such an atrocity! it's almost as if this *isn't* a docudrama!). -
First off I want someone to prove to me that Will Smith said that Wild, Wild West is going to bury Starwars. If I'm not mistaken he said WWW is going to be dazzeling, amazing and is going to be the must see GENRA film of 1999. Jon Peters said the same thing. All Will Smith was doing was promoting his film like everyone else in Hollywood does. He NEVER said it is going to bury Starwars. Will Smith has a reason to be cocky. Why? Because he is the biggest guy in Hollywood right now. Just like Michael Jorden is cocky as all hell because he's the biggest guy in Basketball. Will Smith HAS A REASON TO BE COCKY. Who cares. And why don't you freaks go see the movie before you call it a peice of SHIT. No one can really tell how a movie is going to turn out by a test screening. Go see the movie and THEN make a judgement. And you people who are STILL whining about Will playing James West get over it. I think we are all sick of hearing about the black James West. Everybody already knows about the casting decisions. GET OVER IT.
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I like Will Smith, but he's the same damn character every single film. He's as funny as hell, but he doesn't form individual unique characters. I'm thinking back, and I can't remember the name of any of his characters in his movies...and I've seen all of his movies since ID4. Of course, it's indicative of how charming his personality is that I've gone to see them all, but I want to see something new. He's created his persona, but I want to see a character as legendary as Travis Bickle, Alex from A Clockwork Orange, Indiana Jones, a character in a story, not an actor going through the motions. My acting teacher always says "You have to go to the character, not make the character come to you." Will Smith needs to do this. -Loki
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Just stealing a joke from AIRPLANE to get your attention. Anyways..... I've noted in previous posts that the script for WWW was, at best, uninspired. True, Boris & Natasha's review carries about the same weight as, say, a Paul Wunder write-up, but it does point out the same weaknesses I saw in previous drafts. Flat jokes, uninspired setpieces, a general lack of purpose..... sounds like the film never overcame those shortcomings. Of course, I might have a completely different take when I see the finished product, but I'd bet my left kneecap and a bucket of KFC that this movie will be a major disappointment (and, as much as we all love Sonnenfeld, allow me to point out FOR LOVE OR MONEY, or whatever the hell they ended up calling that irredeemable mess of a film that once carried the title of THE CONCIERGE.) And what's with this sentiment that THE AVENGERS wasn't a thorough disaster? Chechik couldn't even figure out where to place the fucking camera, for cryin' out loud! For all of the directorial blunders, Jesus Jess Franco might as well have helmed the damn thing. And, finally, Lane..... I'm a great admirer of Branagh's work as well, but what about MARY SHELLY'S FLOPENSTEIN? Regrettable.
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Why did they cast Will Smith? I'm not even saying this because he's black (but if he happens to be black, have some fun with it, like "he's the last person they'd suspect as an agent" or something like that) but because he's a jive ass.He'll jive talk through the whole movie. Do we really need that again? If he actually pulls this off, color me impressed. By the way, Kevin Kline is the only man in Hollywood who could fill Ross Martin's shoes as Artemus. Kudos on that casting.
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I'm not a big fan of Mr.Smiths but "Enemy" was an engrossing political thriller.ID4 was TOO
cliche ridden & MIB just blows,
I still cant understand how that LEGITIMATE piece of sh*t did
all the repeat business. If WWW
flops I dont think we should attribute this to the casting.
Blockbuster Western? Sounds like
an oxymoron if I ever heard one.
Clooney #1 at Box Office? Heard
that one lately. This project
should've been dead at the gate
but Branaugh is a brilliant actor
did you catch that unreal Mississippi drawl in "Gingerbread Man". Everytime I hear that crap G.Davis accent in Thelma & Louise I want to Elvis my big screen.
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On last night's 'Later' Will said that it will blow Star Wars out of the water.Yeah right.There you go,JSG.
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Harry, I never read that Spacey was attached to this film, but I do remember when Clooney was going to play Artemus (sp?) with Smith as West. Are you sure Spacey and Clooney were involved at the same time?
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Don't know where I dug up that phrase which is obviously meant to refer to the opening weekend of WWW, but it's probably something some excessively egotistical actor thought up. Me? Chances are I'll be playing Everquest. Or washing my hair.
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AWOL again? Hey, papers are a bitch, but I can't believe this shit. I'm just starting to come down off Emir Kustirica's "UNDERGROUND" The best picture of the 1995 Cannes Film Festival. I cannot believe how this guy put it all together, and I happened to rent it before all the air strikes on the Balkans. I guess that's life. But please! ID4 and MIB were fuckin' flukes brought on by big "event" style charisma. And the July fourth weekend need for pyro when today most towns do not allow fireworks. I skipped Enema of the State, and I only caught MIB on cable, but I was one of those white boy idiots to get off work in time to see ID4 in large numbers of many a dissapointed faces. And I was at a midwestern shit style test screening with Fred (Russia House) Schepsi with "Six Degrees of Separation." He was cool, but nervous. Wouldn't you be in the same position with an MGM release. Anyway, I always knew Wild Wild West would be a production that would expand and bloat up to a size in which it would certainly bomb. Big time. Hudson (the media will destroy you for summer gossip) Hawk style. Didn't anyone see that lame teaser during the Super Bowl? That only confirmed my conclusions about the project. Bottom line = Jon Peters as producer.
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I really was looking forward to this movie - as I've been a fan of WWW from when it was a first-run TV series. The idea was James Bond in the Old West...but Will Smith as a 007 type? I shudder at the concept...it would be like remaking I Spy with Matthew Brodderick and Chris Rock. Ugh. Masochist as I am, I will probably go see WWW, hoping to be pleasantly surprised. I was by The Avengers...the film makers made a faithful adaptation of the series. They got it...we older folks got it...even if the kids did't. The TV to movies march continues...but, really..The Mod Squad? Charlie's Angels? BATTLESTAR GALLACTICA?!!! Ewww!! I want my U.N.C.L.E.!!!
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Will Smith DID say that WWW would blow TPM out of the water. Although his films have been doing well, it's called FUCKING MODESTY. It's called giving props to the Star Wars Trilogy. Will Smith is a punk. I for one won't be wasting my damn money. P.S. Just because the first black Congressman was in the 1800's does NOT mean that there was no racism during this period. If this is the logic you use to discount racism during this period, you are a fucking moron who deserves to stand in line all day for this PoS.
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All you OBSESSED Starwars fans out there make me want to puke. The only reason you freaks are doggin this movie is because Will Smith challenged your precious Starwars. If he haden't said anything about WWW beating Starwars then you people could care less about this movie. All you freaks out there are calling this movie shit when you know absolutly nothing about it except that Will Smith said it is going to rock. Why don't you people come up with some proof that this movie is going to suck besides saying the spider is going to suck. You people know nothing about the plot, charicters, special effects, or anything. Your arguments are coming from that shit review those people gave. Why don't you people grow some brains and stop depending on reviewers to make your movie choices for you. Sithlord999 your only reason for already hating this movie when you know nothing about it is because Will Smith challenged Starwars. It's funny how your name shows your obsession. Why don't you people get some reasonable reasons for hating a movie you know nothing about? You people make me want to puke.
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He may have been saying it tongue in cheek, he may have been serious about it when he said it's going to kick SW ass, but no matter what he meant, he's going to have a fair amount of people who are intrigued by this and go to see the movie, whether it's a PoS, or a masterpiece...my bet is it'll be somewhere in between. -Loki
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The truth is I'm not in a position to say whether this movie is gonna suck or not. At least not yet. The review didn't give me enough to work on, so I just have to wait until "Big Willie Weekend." In reality, I'm not so much against these big blockbuster flicks, I just take them for what they're worth. An opportunity to escape to the cinema with the gang in tow to munch on popcorn and watch the shiny stuff on screen. I know what I'm gonna get going in, so I don't expect much more. From a flick like WWW I just want something to do on Saturday night. Eye candy and nothing more; no epic or insight anticipated. If this flick aspired to be something greater and failed miserably then that would be a different story. My main problem is with Will Smith, who rapidly seems to be sprouting an ego the size of Godzilla terds.
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Like Star Wars doesn't its bad buzz!! All those rumors about horrible performances from Jake Lyod and Portman. I've even heard that Ewan McGregor BLOWS! Not to mention, that annoy Jar Jar Bink or whatever!! What the HELL is up with his voice!!! Finally, sorry 'bout the cgi looks fake!! For all the computer wizardly, Yoda and all those other cgi aliens done look so great! You can tell it's a computer!! TPM won't even come within 200 MILLION of Titanic!!! (P.S Will Smith is joking about those comments!! Get a life, you Star Wars FREAKS!)
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they're not really in competition. by july 4th weekend tpm will be outta there. sorry, but no matter how much money ep1 makes, it will make it quick and then peter off. it may be the most anticipated film ever, but that doesn't mean people will still be seeing it two months after it comes out. don't extrapolate how keen you are for it today onto how good it will be after seeing it five times. (sorry to dis tpm, i'm as keen as the next person, but please, reality check!) so www won't gross as much as tpm, and i wouldn't bother being insulted by will smith. he's just playing out his character. he's will smith, that's what he does. (i wonder if out of the spotlight he calms down... probably not.)
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Watch any one of the orginal WWW, even some of the later lame assed color ones and you'll see that those shows still hold up today! Miguelito Loveless was a dwarf with a giant, Voltaire, to do his bidding, not a guy missing his legs in a steam-powered wheelchair! Michael Dunn's character was like a child with an overdeveloped brain out to rule the world. You hated him, but you liked him. Branaugh, a great actor, but I don't see him filling Dunn's shoes, so to speak. Kevin Kline as Artemus Gordon, a good replacement for the late, great Mr. Ross Martin. Will Smith, no way! Bob Conrad kicked ass and took names! He was a man's, man! When he walked into a room, you could see this guy's wheels turning in his eyes ready for action. I can't buy Will Smith in the role. The movie will be a goat blower for sure!
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Watch any one of the orginal WWW, even some of the later lame assed color ones and you'll see that those shows still hold up today! Miguelito Loveless was a dwarf with a giant, Voltaire, to do his bidding, not a guy missing his legs in a steam-powered wheelchair! Michael Dunn's character was like a child with an overdeveloped brain out to rule the world. You hated him, but you liked him. Branaugh, a great actor, but I don't see him filling Dunn's shoes, so to speak. Kevin Kline as Artemus Gordon, a good replacement for the late, great Mr. Ross Martin. Will Smith, no way! Bob Conrad kicked ass and took names! He was a man's, man! When he walked into a room, you could see this guy's wheels turning in his eyes ready for action. I can't buy Will Smith in the role. The movie will be a goat blower for sure!
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And if your thing is munching popcorn and watching trash then so be it. Everybody in here needs to relax, TPM and WWW are one thing but Dogma is the flick to keep an eye on. With that you're gonna get everything, just watch.
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Here's a controversial statement: Wild Wild West will not beat Star Wars Ep. 1. Here's a more controversial statement: Star Wars One will not beat Titanic. How can I make such a statement. Lemme tell you 'bout it. Titanic came at a very strange time, during the resurgence of the teeny-bopper phase as noted by such teen-centric shows like Dawson's Creek and Buffy The Vampire Slayer. Teen oriented pop is back in the wretched guise of N'Sync, Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears, recalling the worst of the 80's when you couldn't turn without running into a Debbie Gibson or New Kids song. What this meant for Titanic was the perfect cash-in. Lots of teenage girls feeling "something" for Leo DiCaprio and going to see the movie sometimes TWICE A WEEK for it's ENTIRE RUN. No matter how good Ep. 1 will be (and my hopes are high) I don't think Ewan MacGregor is going to have that same effect. Plus, and this may sound idiotic but I'll stand by it, the Star Wars universe is considered icky by some, not by all, but most of the female population. My sister tolerated A New Hope way back when so my mom would take her to see Grease the next weekend. Where does that leave Wild Wild West? Chasing a chaser. Star Wars may do well this summer, it's true. It may do phenomenal overall, but the bar has been raised and it's hard to believe it will pass it. Everything after it, no matter how successful, will look that much more a failure. Will Smith had better keep his ego in check... He's gonna need all his verbosity to promote one of summer's hardest sells.
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Man all you OBSESSED Starwars fans need to get out of this talk back and back to watching the trailers over and over again. Why do you Starwars freaks show up on every talk back? You know I woulden't mind but you freaks bitch and whine about the same thing every time. If your going to dog a movie please come up with something new. I hear the same thing over and over and over and over and over again again again and again. That's what it's like reading your gay ass postings. All that I have heard on this talk back is Will Smith has the biggest ego. The WWW is going to blow chunks. Atleast have some reasonable reasons for hating a movie you know nothing about besides the fact that Will Smith jokingly challened Starwars. If your going to cry and whine about the same thing over and over again come up with something clever besides Will Smith has an EGO and WWW is going to blow chunks. You DRONES are making me puke. Hell I diden't even get through some of your gay ass posting because I already knew what they said. I could tell from the first 2 lines what they were going to say. For shit sake DRONES you know nothing about this movie that you are clearly dogging for 1 or 2 gay ass reasons. When you know something bad obout this movie come back and then dog it. But when you know absolutly nothing about this movie keep your fucking mouths shut. Now liston DRONES I know it's hard when your minds are simultaneously playing the Starwars trailers over and over again but get the FUCK out of this talk back and go cry about something other than WWW beating Starwars. And please if you going to talk back come up with some new talk back messages and please come up with REAL reasons for hating WWW. A movie you you haven't seen.
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Lets get serious mr Stud. "TPM won't come within 200 million of Titanic"?? "Get a life star wars freaks"??? Well, I'm no "Star Wars freak" but I am a fan of the films and even I know for a fact that TPM will more than likely blow Titanic out of the water never mind coming within 200 million dollars of it. So please, why don't you get a life and how about facing reality while your at it.
Also, I think Clooney made WWW ROCK!!! And Spacey too. Shame about what could have been eh? Although, I've never heard of the T.V show this is supposed to be based on, so I have nothing to compare it to. Sounds like I might actually like it. Except for Kenny Branagh. I F**king hate him!!!!!!!Oh yeah, and I may not be the biggest fan of Will Smith but I can tolerate him and I highly doubt those comments about TPM he made were serious. I mean, seriously, who could think such a stupid thing?? It's only those Titanic fans that are having illusions like that, and we all know they're bloody idiots! -
I've heard the word 'ass' used a lot in this forum. Star Wars will kick ass, Wild Wild West will kick ass, and so on. I think we're straying away from the real issue here, which is Salma Hayek's ass, and how it alone is probably worth the price of admission.
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Jon Peters.
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http://www.movie-page.com/reviews/testscreening4.htm
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That wasen't anything new. That was the same old shit you DRONES usually post up. To tell you the truth I like Starwars but am not a DRONE such as yourself. When you say mindless stuff like that it just makes me laugh. But then I remember that your just a DRONE and I feel sorry for you. Now liston carefully DRONE and stop playing those Starwars trailers in your head. I never said WWW is going to beat Starwars I said give me reason for hating this movie you haven't even seen. And now I'm asking you to give me a REAL reason for hating the WWW besides all the reasons you DRONES usually give? And I'm still asking you to come up with a new posting? I still think that you should get the fuck off this talk back because you can't answere a simple question. Now answere the FUCKING question DRONE.
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Ain't no GEEKS talkin when I'm talkin so shut the hell up. Will is an excellent actor who has delivered many fine performances (Enemy Of The State). As for the movie it's great I saw it last week so stop your over analyzing and just fucking relax.
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I wish you idiots would stop jerking off over Star Wars and Kevin Spacey. No shit Star Wars is going to bury the competion. We know this. Accept it as a given and say other things. As for Spacey, he is good (I loved him and everyone else in L.A. Confidential) but he does not need to be in every damn movie they make. Kevin Kline is a much better actor. After all, he was the last man to win an Oscar in a comedy(a little something about a fish) so shut up! Kline kicks Spacey's ass!
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After finally getting a chance to see part of the early raw screening I am really God Damned dissappointed. Special effects are overkill city...Punk Ass Home boy West wears tinted shades and cracks jokes constantly and the Bad guys are stereotypical deep south White Racist scum :to include Dr. DICKless. Oddly enough not a Mother fucker seems to notice West is a Black Ass bitch walking around like he owns the Town!! Branaugh is Fucked up and wasted in this hapless tripe and the Loveless character is your everyday common Hollywood evil Genius villain. The late Michael Dunn " A Dwarf NOT a GodDamn Midget"set a character that was interesting and extremely volatile at the same time...this one is not. As a TRUE fan and having grown up spending Friday nights watching the Real Deal I despise the departure from the Character that Conrad played. On the series West was White, stiff, Dry, egotistical, Cocky and swaggered when he walked, He was a man of few words and a hell of a lot of action !! Robert Conrad in real life 1965 was one Hell of an athelete, stuntman, Boxer and Martial artist and could Whip the Asses of a whole room full of Mother Fuckers by himself. His 5 ft.8 inch 160 pound frame was in full contrast to James Arness or Chuck Connors hulking asses.
But each and every week Conrad as West would jump off buildings, Wagons or anything else he had to and then dive right into a dozen Big Ass 200 pound henchman,throw down some shit...FUCK UP their asses and make it look believable!! I am 40 years old and I have every episode on Video tape and still watch them from time to time. It was ultra-Cool for 1965 a complete original and there was then and never will be any thing quite like it or another WWW. This movie only proves that point.
P.S : On a side note it was rather a slap in the face to offer Conrad the role of Grant. Big Willie is a bitch for the lead and race aint got a God Damn thing to o with it!! Who wants to see a Black Ass James Bond??
Or how about a Black "Indiana Jones" The West role is inherently White!! I aint got a problem with it!! As far as casting 10 or 15 years ago Harrison Ford perfect. Kevin Costner not tough enough... Val Kilmer too pretty. George Clooney should have been in it but in reality producers wanted a hip young MTV version of West. Well they got it ...and they can keep it!!! JON PETERS AND HIS FAGGOT ASS POSSE SUCK SHIT BALLS ON THIS ONE!!!
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It's quite clear that every statement emitted is of credibility, but what must be made clear here is the ceratin parallels between Will Smith and past Stars....The last person to appear on the cover of Vanity Fair in anticipation of a major blockbuster was Leonardo DiCaprio, and he came off as a very humble, everyday guy who was not too good at women...and his movie went on to take over the world....a year and some later, Will Smith is placed on the cover of the same magazine in anticipatin of Blockbuster, and he comes off as Cocky, but it must be made clear that even with his statements about his movie blasting StarWars and sinking it ....it was more of a concept than a practicality...because everyone knows Star Wars is a classic, but he was merely trying to sell this cocky concept....clearly it can be seen that when actors take on roles...good actors...they tend to absorb themselves in the characters....and Leo Dicaprio did'nt even quite dig the unintense nature of his titanic role...but it must be made clear that one of the main reasons that Will Smith's first marriage didn't persist is that he got too engrossed in his gay character in "Six Degrees Beyond Separation"....now he's playing the cockiest hero known in history...so we see this persona rubbing off on him again...and I can relate to that a few times in my life....another thing is...the success of this movie in the numbers can be paralleled to Michael Jackson, but not the Backstreet Boys.....Will Smith is a really long fad...and he sells coolness and hipness, and if his popularity with this pop culture fades as can be reflected in the box office, then that doesn't mean that the naysayers had their way...but right now....I see him as the fad of coolness that everyone's superficially intrigued by and wants to go see...yeah...i've seen the movie....and his character was supercocky....so dont blame an actor that has been playing this role for months for boasting to sink the greatest movie of the decade....if you really like actors and movies, no matter how special effects generic this movie seems to be, and no matter how generic Smith's role seems to be, not only has he basically become the ultracocky Jim West in terms of his ego, but he's a pop icon right now, and even if that wave he's riding goes down...he stayed damn loyal to himself by absorbing the ultimate superdupercockiness of his character's role.....
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