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Rorschach is bothering me! Who is gonna be watching dese WATCHMEN?

Hey folks, Harry here... Ya know... some nights, while attending one's post here at AICN - some cool fucking shit goes down. Take tonight for example. I'm sitting here at Geek Headquarters with young master Quint sharing a conversation about Mark Protosevich's THOR script - discussing reading the remake of ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK remake script - when I get an email from... Rorschach:
From: rorschach@rorschachsjournal.com Subject: Who Watches the Watchmen? Date: June 28, 2007 10:13:38 PM CDT To: rorschach@rorschachsjournal.com new website. movie being made about masks. alan moore - 'watchmen'. RorschachsJournal.com more news soon. .?R.
Well, being a good reporter, I had to find out if it was the "real" Rorschach or just some wannabe, so I responded with:
Subject: rorschach you psychotic twit Go fuck yourself, you're the one that deserves to be in prison you sadistic fuck! The Harry Man
Now I'd see if it was Rorschach... Moments later I get:
knowles. have you on my list to visit. watch your fridge. .ЯR.
Yeah, that sounds like Rorschach, but I had to be sure, so I wrote back...
I've seen your bland face under that woman's dress you call a mask. But if you get your kicks beating on a crippled fat fuck, you're more gone than anyone ever suspected you faceless nobody. Try something productive, like blowing your mind out of the back of your fucking skull! The Harry Man
To which Rorschach replied... simply:
hurm. .ЯR.
So... Here's the thing - The Rorschach's Journal site has his logo that links to his email address - and that's it. Tonight... for a little bit, I exchanged, in character, insults and vague and not so vague threats with THE MAN... RORSCHACH!!!! It's good to be a geek! Unless... he really does visit me. GULP!

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  • June 29, 2007, 12:31 a.m. CST

    rorshach

    by Mastashake

    hell yeah

  • June 29, 2007, 12:31 a.m. CST

    viral marketing?

    by v1cious

    could be interesting

  • June 29, 2007, 12:34 a.m. CST

    that's cool

    by TheWumpus

    Hrum.

  • June 29, 2007, 12:35 a.m. CST

    Hurm.

    by Boondock Devil

    It's a great comeback.. there's nothing else you can really say back after a damned good "hurm".

  • June 29, 2007, 12:36 a.m. CST

    Yeah more viral marketing it seems

    by Robots In Das Guys

    Although hella early....They haven't even announced any casting. Anyways, Tom Jane for The Comedian? Me digs.

  • June 29, 2007, 12:37 a.m. CST

    RE: Boondock devil

    by Mastashake

    Hahaha so true

  • June 29, 2007, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Watch me?

    by Fridge

    I don't like it when people watch me.

  • June 29, 2007, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Can Watchmen really be in theaters next year?

    by Boondock Devil

    Would make for a great fall/winter movie. Nice alternative comic book movie compared to the popcorn fare like Iron Man and Incredible Hulk during the summer movie season.

  • June 29, 2007, 12:40 a.m. CST

    First Harry makes up a "fiancee", now he's trading

    by chrth

    emails with a fictional character and is worried about visits. Why do I envision this ending with Harry punching himself in a parking garage?

  • June 29, 2007, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Looking deeper...

    by MacGuffin

    Look in the source code. It takes you here: http://staff.theonering.net/xoanon/rorschach/index.html Now look at the page's title. It's morse code for "STOOD IN STREET. WATCHED IT BURN." It's a speech that Rorshach gave (see 6:25:8 to 6:26:7)

  • June 29, 2007, 12:44 a.m. CST

    fansite

    by Interficium

    this is not news.

  • June 29, 2007, 12:47 a.m. CST

    This is RETARDED

    by Bass Bastardson

    Who the hell cares? This isn't news. It's a stupid email exchange with who? A fictional character? why don't you post your letters to Santa Claus? As far as news goes, HOW ABOUT SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE THOR AND EFNY SCRIPTS YOU NAME CHECKED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS POINTLESS ARTICLE. That might be worth reading.

  • June 29, 2007, 12:55 a.m. CST

    would be nice

    by blindambition238

    if it was just some psycho playing make believe and was actually going to make good on his threats

  • June 29, 2007, 12:57 a.m. CST

    let me know when theirs casting news

    by gambit88

    i dont care about harrys letters to rorschach, santa, sam jackson, or any other fictional characters.

  • June 29, 2007, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Seems that Viral Marketing...

    by Pawprint

    Is taking off in a really big way now when it comes to films...

  • June 29, 2007, 1 a.m. CST

    Hmm

    by QuinnTheEskimo

    Seems the Dark Knight marketing is catching on. I for one think it's pretty damn cool in both instances.

  • June 29, 2007, 1:02 a.m. CST

    Xoanon? Oh come on man

    by chrth

    I expect better of you than shameless pandering to Harry. I mean, at least try to grab Mori (who I'm sure is still hurting over the There's No Way Walter B is Bruce Willis debacle).

  • June 29, 2007, 1:05 a.m. CST

    OT: Anyone see an advance of Transformers tonight?

    by thethedew

    I did in Block E, Downtown Minneapolis. There was some teaser trailer in front of Transformers that I didn't recognize - ending with the torn-off head of the statue of liberty landing in a NY street? What was this? Thanks.

  • June 29, 2007, 1:05 a.m. CST

    this site has hit a new low

    by gambit88

    It just hit me that on a movie website that is respected and trusted by most, I just read a post detailing the exchange between the web master and a fictional character. I think I have some letters I wrote to stick stickly somewhere in the attic, perhaps I can open up a website and gain notoriety posting them?

  • June 29, 2007, 1:08 a.m. CST

    thethedew

    by Boondock Devil

    That would be for Cloverfield. Mori had a couple reports on it just recently. It's apparently a JJ Abbrams project scheduled for next year.

  • June 29, 2007, 1:12 a.m. CST

    more excited to see...

    by TheWumpus

    The Cloverfield trailer than I am Transformers.

  • June 29, 2007, 1:14 a.m. CST

    Thanks, BD

    by thethedew

    Gotta look that sucker up.

  • June 29, 2007, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Catching Transformers on the ol' Ultrascreen

    by Boondock Devil

    Because nobody had the common sense to throw a movie about giant robots fucking shit on IMAX. How could they drop the ball on this one? Also props to the fellow Twin Cities filmgeek fan.

  • June 29, 2007, 1:43 a.m. CST

    Which one is Rorschach again?

    by Iamagoodguy

    Is he the big blue dude who makes clocks, its been a while sinse I read it.

  • June 29, 2007, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Ain't it RPG News?

    by DerLanghaarige

  • June 29, 2007, 1:55 a.m. CST

    hurm

    by Zach_Talks_Back

    i find it weird that when clicking on the link, one of the sites you see flash in the loading process is...staff of "theonering.net".....just thought it was weird

  • June 29, 2007, 2:04 a.m. CST

    WHAT'S NEXT? TELLING US WHAT YOU HAD FOR DINNER?

    by greigy just wanted to say

    Discussing in depth the contents of your fridge? Telling us the consistency of your mighty stools.? Ramming HD-DVD down our throats.... oops sorry.. been there done that.!

  • June 29, 2007, 2:10 a.m. CST

    BY THE WAY MY NAME IS BATMAN..!!

    by greigy just wanted to say

    I enjoy a healthy social life in the guise of a playboy millionaire whilst cathartically ridding gotham city of it's lowlife scum. I like experimental black sports cars, gadgets and urban night life.... and oh yes... I LIKE TO MAKE BELIEVE I'M A FICTIONAL FUCKING CHARACTER..!!!!

  • June 29, 2007, 2:27 a.m. CST

    For fuck's sake, Harry Knowles

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    It's cool if you have read those scripts and have decided not to share the details on your website that is famous for scooping early details on films in development, but must you tell people about it? You have become like a twelve year old girl who skips around, flicking at her pigtails, singsonging "I know something you don't know".<p>Nobody ever wanted to fuck those girls, Harry. They became old and bitter and mean-spirited. Don't be like that. Either share or keep it fully under your hat.

  • June 29, 2007, 2:28 a.m. CST

    RORSCHACH GOTTA PEEP!

    by Mvraiment

    creepy little bugger...

  • June 29, 2007, 2:32 a.m. CST

    A little more on the web page

    by jstringer02161966

    Here's the code: <FRAMESET ROWS="*,0" FRAMEBORDER=0 BORDER=0 FRAMESPACING=0> <FRAME SRC="http://staff.theonering.net/xoanon/rorschach/index.html" NORESIZE> </FRAMESET> the trail leads here: http://staff.theonering.net/xoanon Which goes to: http://xoanontorn.blogspot.com/ Who is this idiot?

  • June 29, 2007, 2:43 a.m. CST

    morse code?

    by tibbar

    i'm curious what the morse code at the bottom of the blog page says.

  • June 29, 2007, 2:46 a.m. CST

    Morse Code

    by Angry Bald Guy

    It says Stood in street watching it burn. I think.

  • June 29, 2007, 2:51 a.m. CST

    morse translation, roughly...

    by tibbar

    "stood in street watching it burn" mean anything to anyone? i dont recall it having significance to the book, but i read it like 5 years ago, so....

  • June 29, 2007, 2:58 a.m. CST

    Xoanon...

    by Angry Bald Guy

    is a senior editor at theonering.net. Is he bored or are we?

  • June 29, 2007, 3:17 a.m. CST

    In the words of Super Hans....

    by deanamatronix

    This is buuuuullshiiiiiiiit *kicks down toilet door*

  • June 29, 2007, 3:18 a.m. CST

    chud.com

    by mr.cancerstix

    read the article there. devin actually did research, who does he think he is some kind of journalist or something? lol

  • June 29, 2007, 3:58 a.m. CST

    What. Teh. Fukk????

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    This aint no news.

  • June 29, 2007, 4:02 a.m. CST

    Tibbar-"Stood in street watching it burns" means

    by blindambition238

    spoiler...well refers to the part in the comic where Rorschach finds out a kidnapper fed a little girl to his dogs so he decides to go jigsaw on his ass and handcuffs the murderer to a furnace inside his house while he lites it aflame. He stands outside to see if the guy uses the saw he left him to cut off his own arm and escape, which he doesn't. Supposed to be his origin story.

  • June 29, 2007, 4:34 a.m. CST

    AICN Sinks to a new low

    by NachoNegro

    Here we have some fat fool dropping vague hints about Thor and EFNY scripts, but does he say anything about them? No. Instead, he shares some POS e-mail conversation with a fictional character. That Ain't Cool News. That's just useless bullshit that wastes the time of anyone coming here. Haven't you people got anything interesting to say anymore? Actually don't bother. I already know the answer.

  • June 29, 2007, 4:36 a.m. CST

    blindambition238

    by NachoNegro

    Are you saying that Alan Moore ripped off Mad Max completely without even bothering to credit it?

  • June 29, 2007, 4:46 a.m. CST

    AICN IS DEAD

    by stamper

    LONG LIVE CHUD

  • June 29, 2007, 5:08 a.m. CST

    mmmhhhhhh

    by AllieJamison

    i hate it if people decide to sell out. didn't michael regina use to be on the tbs? i hope he's already banned for stepping over the damn line. or, in the future, he will just go by the name of PLANT#1 and gets a purple box so everybody is warned.

  • June 29, 2007, 5:10 a.m. CST

    SUPERGIRL CASTING

    by doctordoublex

    I understand that Krisi Ballentine from Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Model Search, Lingerie Bowl, and Deal or No Deal, and a brief cameo in Disturbia, is being considered to play Supergirl on Smallville. She's also up for a lead role in Baywatch the movie. http://youtube.com/watch?v=nkkxdPCM8ng

  • June 29, 2007, 5:13 a.m. CST

    The pot calling the kettle black

    by Doc_Strange

    That's all I gotta say.....

  • June 29, 2007, 5:33 a.m. CST

    Escape From New York Remake script

    by Horror Freak

    i want to read it, where can i find it? also, watchman, hope to hear good things coming from this ( so glad keanu is no longer wtih it)

  • June 29, 2007, 5:34 a.m. CST

    This is REALLY gay...........

    by jojo-pimp

    umm....is this supposed to be news?

  • June 29, 2007, 6:08 a.m. CST

    Remember the days...

    by BanAllFIRSTPosters

    when we would actually see those script reviews that Harry started out talking about?

  • June 29, 2007, 6:28 a.m. CST

    I don't want to see the EFNY script review

    by Lost Prophet

    unless he is pannelling it and has deemd it only worthy of toilet paper duty. <p>A script review saying how great it was and how he wants to give everyone involved in raping another carpenter classic a big fat kiss for their unique vision in reimagining such a stale film would make me puke. <p>And seriously damage the office computer.

  • June 29, 2007, 6:29 a.m. CST

    What I imagine Paris Hilton's text messages look like

    by Trazadone

    Okay, I've read this jumbled mess twice and I still don't get it. Can someone please explain what the hell Harry is talking about? God, sometimes I'm embarrassed to be a geek.

  • June 29, 2007, 7 a.m. CST

    Haters - get a life

    by Darth Valinorean

    ... you know you would love it if it had been you who had received that email from R. Get a f'n life and Harry, nice back 'n forth.

  • June 29, 2007, 7:02 a.m. CST

    I got a text message from John McClane

    by Spandau Belly

    But I figured it wasn't really him because there was no swearing.

  • June 29, 2007, 7:17 a.m. CST

    Just received an email from....

    by Lost Prophet

    whoever. And who the fuck cares. I thought about recycling the old David Blunkett resignation email joke, but thought most of you (as you are American, and therefore don't give a fuck about mediocre british politicians) wouldn't get it

  • June 29, 2007, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Lost Prophet: I'm hurt that you would think that

    by chrth

    We don't give a fuck about good british politicians either!

  • June 29, 2007, 7:28 a.m. CST

    or any other politician.

    by Lost Prophet

    fuck it, I'll do it anyway as it seems to be a slow news day, with any old crap being put up and I have no work:<p>This is vaguely offensive so if easily upset then please ignore<p>....... ........ ....... ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ... .... ....... ...... ........ ........ ...... ...... ... ... ....... ....... .....<p>David Blunkett's resignation letter!<p>It's funny because he's blind! or not. Sorry again.

  • June 29, 2007, 7:40 a.m. CST

    hmmm

    by adrian_veidt

    check out the document source HTML code http://staff.theonering.net/xoanon/rorschach/index.html looks like a fan thing. Or fan run, but at the Onering.net?

  • June 29, 2007, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Paddy Considine for Rorshach !!

    by RockLobster800

    you know it makes sense-what doesnt make sense is making a Watchmen film-there is absoloutely no point to it. The books a good time piece-to adapt it all this time after the Cold War without adding some element of retrospect or re-evaluation of the material serves absolutley no purpose beyond the fact that its a big comic book and adaptations of big comics make money no mater how shite they are. The books there-READ IT!

  • June 29, 2007, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Jesus.

    by 7pointedstar

    So all I have to do to get a news story on AICN is pretend to be a fictional character and write an e-mail? Wow. Roleplayers unite!

  • June 29, 2007, 8:45 a.m. CST

    I didn't think Harry and Quint could fit in one room

    by DigitalDong

    No seriously, was this in an airport hanger?

  • June 29, 2007, 8:46 a.m. CST

    it's cool either way

    by CherryValance

    because you don't know. Ya know? </p> And I thought Paddy Considine definitely wasn't doing this?

  • June 29, 2007, 9:31 a.m. CST

    The ONLY choice for Rorschach:

    by DocPazuzu

    Doug Hutchison. <p> You all know this to be true.

  • June 29, 2007, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Considine isnt? Damn...

    by RockLobster800

    he does intense mad bastard so well. Oh well...umm....Ed Norton for Rorschach? Im saying jeff Goldblum for Nite Owl anyway....

  • June 29, 2007, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Really?

    by patNiessen

    You are a horrible writer. You need to stop writing. Now.

  • June 29, 2007, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Doug Hutchison-good call...

    by RockLobster800

    theres the slim danger that I would want to kick him in the face over and over due to him being Percy in the Green Mile. That "dry sponge" scene still freaks me out man....

  • June 29, 2007, 9:53 a.m. CST

    who me?

    by RockLobster800

    what Norton and Goldblum no good?

  • June 29, 2007, 9:54 a.m. CST

    so in other words you're giving Watchmen a thumbs up

    by INWOsuxRED

    before they even start shooting. We already knew that.

  • June 29, 2007, 9:56 a.m. CST

    who me?

    by RockLobster800

    what Norton and Goldblum no good?

  • June 29, 2007, 9:59 a.m. CST

    So let's say it's a studio collab

    by DannyOcean01

    It's still fucking cool viral. Yes, them lot are wankers for dropping hints about scripts etc and not actually reporting on them, but fuck, we're getting a Watchmen film people. Try and get some positivity going.

  • June 29, 2007, 10 a.m. CST

    Rorschach was a right-winger

    by chrth

    Why the hell would he communicate with a wannabe liberal?

  • June 29, 2007, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Wait. There's a THOR script?!?!?!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!<br>Great Odin's raven! That's funny.

  • June 29, 2007, 10:09 a.m. CST

    RORSCHACH HAS NO MYSPACE FRIENDS BECAUSE...

    by greigy just wanted to say

    Fictional or not he's got a fucking life.... YEP FIGURE THAT ONE OUT... it'll cook your melon for days.

  • June 29, 2007, 10:12 a.m. CST

    You know how I know you're gay...?

    by sevadro

    Because you felt you needed to post this lame piece of shit blog like anyone would actually care. And we'll see how your buddy Mark does after his shit Legend script becomes just another shit movie this Christmas. Hateraid

  • June 29, 2007, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Rorschach casting

    by bralli

    Anyone who has read the book knows that he needs to be an unknown face. SPOILER! (don't read any further!) --- For much of the book, you don't know his identity and later discover that he was in fact an ugly, short, seemingly crazy homeless guy who was in the background of many scenes.

  • June 29, 2007, 10:25 a.m. CST

    How come in order to be a "good journalist"

    by RockLobster800

    Harry thinks he needs to insult the guy to get a response like the most juvenile of talkbackers? Couldnt he merely ask whats going on rather than send a barrage of insults? Knowles man-you need to quit reading the Talk Backs man.....

  • June 29, 2007, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Met UK casting director yesterday.

    by TELF

    She said that the current line up is Crudup for Manhattan. Patrick Wilson for Nite Owl.And... Jackie Earle Haley for Rorschach. Good stuff, straight from the horse's mouth. All other parts still up for grabs. Apparently JEH produced his own short as an audition, had stuntmen fight him and everything. That is commitment! Be a great DVD extra as well. Wouldn't be surprised if it were him emailing Harry. He seems very into the project.

  • June 29, 2007, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Crudup for Manhattan?

    by RockLobster800

    better than Keanu thank Christ...still, they're goig a bit young arent they? Im telling you-Goldblum-Nite owl! Seriously!All right-I just want Goldbum in anything...where the hell is Raines?

  • June 29, 2007, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Morse Code

    by Fagabeefe

    Check the morse code on that page. "YOU REMIND ME OF WEATHERBEE. I DON'T LIKE YOU"

  • June 29, 2007, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Fucking stupid.

    by El Scorcho

    I want the 40 seconds back that I spent skimming through that pointless horseshit.

  • June 29, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST

    uh waitaminute, thor script???

    by waggy

    how about a review brotha?

  • June 29, 2007, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Good job.

    by Kal-L

    You've gotten more page views on this guy's blog - where he's never even gotten any friends to comment - than he's probably received in the two years he's been writing it. I'm sure he thanks you.

  • June 29, 2007, 11:06 a.m. CST

    I think they are going a bit younger,

    by TELF

    So they can age people up. Lots of flashing back and forth in the story and it's easier to age the actors than it is to make them appear younger. Who do you guys like for the girls? And enough bitching about this article, it's as good a reason as any to have a Watcmen TB. I could talk about this one all day.

  • June 29, 2007, 11:09 a.m. CST

    I don't see the Crudup thing

    by CherryValance

    explain it to me. They're going to make Doctor Manhattan in a computer then? And Crudup will be playing him before the accident and then his voice or something? I mean he's not a tall man. That's what's confusing me. And RockLobster, Patrick Wilson will be great as Nite Owl. Raines unfortunately wasn't that great. I was almost happy it was cancelled because I'd like to see Goldblum in other stuff.

  • June 29, 2007, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Most interesting

    by finky089

    I love this shit

  • June 29, 2007, 11:19 a.m. CST

    People who use the word 'haters'

    by deanamatronix

    Get a life.

  • June 29, 2007, 11:28 a.m. CST

    It is Michael Regina

    by gadzooks

    Regina created the domain name on Tuesday. If you look up the website's WHOIS public registration, you get this info: Domain name: RORSCHACHSJOURNAL.COM Registrant Contact: Type40 Internet Marketing and Promotion Michael Regina (xoanon78@hotmail.com) +1.5149475221 Fax: 1. 42 Marcel Meloche Kirkland, QC H9J1K6 CA It's clearly a marketing gimmick.

  • June 29, 2007, 11:30 a.m. CST

    hurm?

    by CampKoala

    http://tinyurl.com/2ufx8j

  • June 29, 2007, 11:35 a.m. CST

    ************SPOILER ALERT***********

    by Ned Pepper

    I doubt anyone who has just read 250 posts into a TalkBack about a comic book that is over 20 years old needs to be warned about plot spoilers. And why does every Watchmen TB devolve into a guessing game about the cast? I'm more concerned that the script remain true to the characters and their stories. And more than a little worried whether they can do this faithfully and not have it seem woefully dated.

  • June 29, 2007, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Rorschach

    by QuinnTheEskimo

    Should be Mark Hamill. You know this to be true.

  • June 29, 2007, 11:42 a.m. CST

    I read somewhere Kate Winslet is attached to this

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Smells good to me.

  • June 29, 2007, 11:49 a.m. CST

    OOH, OOH, OOH, MISTER KOTTER!!!!

    by Squashua

    Rorshach was always my favorite sweathog.gohtaews etirovaf ym syawla saw hcahsroR

  • June 29, 2007, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Rorschach=

    by Kid Z

    ... Steve Buscemi. There's just no other choice.

  • June 29, 2007, 11:57 a.m. CST

    I READ THE NEW THOR AND EFNY SCRIPTS!

    by gambit88

    But Im not gonna tell you shit about them and post this letter I wrote to Wolverine when I was 4 instead.: "Dear Wolverine, I rally like your claws bub. Please be nicier to gambit. Gamibt is kewl too. I wish I had klaws. Sincerely, Gambit88."

  • June 29, 2007, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Maybe you should ask Rorschach why he isn't dead...

    by SpyGuy

    ...considering Doctor Manhattan wiped him from the planet. Pretty impressive comeback, even for a fictional character. <p>Oh, and then be sure to ask him if Snyder is using the Jimi Hendrix version of "All Along the Watchtower" during the scene where two riders (Nite Owl and Rorschach) were approaching and the wind began to howl...Hey-ay...</p>

  • June 29, 2007, 12:30 p.m. CST

    The Abyss Gazes Also

    by marcronan

    Hurm - http://www.the-isb.com/?p=43

  • June 29, 2007, 12:32 p.m. CST

    OMG!

    by chrth

    Rorschach is a Cylon!

  • June 29, 2007, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Secret Message in Morse Code

    by Koegh6

    If you view the page source, you'll see that the graphic comes from a onering.net address (http://staff.theonering.net/xoanon/rorschach/index.html) View the source on the originating page and there is a message in morse code. It reads: "THANKS FOR EMAILS. WILL REPLY SOON. THE VEIDT METHOD IS A LIE"

  • June 29, 2007, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Ned Pepper...

    by TELF

    I read the Hayter script which Alex Tse is now doing a re-write on. I thought the Hayter script was excellent. Very faithful in tone and spirit - with whole sections lifted more or less verbatim. Most of the liberties were used in streamlining: No Capt Metropolis (instead Nite Owl comes up with the idea of a team up - but even then Comedian refers to it having been tried before...)and no Black Freighter. The biggest change is the ending. Instead of the fake alien attack, Adrian makes it seem that Dr Manhattan punishes the world for risking nuclear annihilation by replicating his power (by trapping him during the big stand off at his polar base) and using it to wipe out 15 million people across various key cities across the world-showing no political or idealogical bias in his targets. The whole sky turns Manhattan Blue and he speaks to the world in all languages and tells them to behave themselves. He basically appears to become god. I thought it was a fantastic change. And it fits really well with Adrian original plan, what with the cancer hoax and getting Doc to leave the planet. It makes it seem that he was manipulating him towards this climax all along. I (and I am a massive fan of the book) kind of prefer it. Esp Adrian's (posing as the voice of Manhattan) sign off after his threat to the world: "I'll Be Watching". I mean, that's just perfect. So the essential structure from the book is maintained,along with the final pay off with Rorschach's journal. As far as I know, Tse is just adding more of the book's details, and better explaing the denouement (the Hayter script didn't spell everything out-something I loiked it for), but as far as I can tell the are still using a Hayter style ending.

  • June 29, 2007, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Hurm, should of put some paragraphs in that...

    by TELF

    Sorry gang. How do you do them again?

  • June 29, 2007, 1:31 p.m. CST

    TELF: < p > (remove spaces)

    by chrth

    <nt>

  • June 29, 2007, 1:45 p.m. CST

    TELF...

    by Ned Pepper

    Thanks for the summary. I've seen mention of the Hayter script, and Mori (I believe it was) just loved it. I had a feeling the fake alien would NOT translate to film, but I feared they couldn't come up with a substitute that didn't seem just as, well, "hokey." The book also has too many characters for a film audience to keep track of, so I can accept some degree of compositing of characters. The best suggestions I've seen concerning the Black Freighter material involve making it into a TV series that's playing in the background of several scenes. If done this way, it could be be a nod to fans of the book without detracting from the main storyline. Although it turns out to be quite important as a reflection of Veidt's story arc, I could see a scriptwriter wanting to lose it. I'm feeling better and better about this project all the time. Here's hoping something fantastic happens.

  • June 29, 2007, 1:50 p.m. CST

    RE: RorschachsJournal.com's Secret Morse Code Message

    by anti0gravity

    It says the “Veidt Method” is a lie.<p> What is the “Veidt Method” you say?<p> An Alan Moore scholar tells us so...<p> "Adrian Veidt, the superhero Ozymandias, advertises what he calls “Veidt Method”: a self-improvement course, which includes: <p> [S]eries of physical and intellectual exercise systems which, if followed correctly, can turn YOU into a superhuman, fully in charge of your own destiny. All that is required is the desire for perfection and the will to achieve it. <p> ... this advertisement is a direct pastiche of the Charles Atlas’ advertisements that ran in the comic books in the 1950s, urging “90 pound weaklings” that got picked on at the beach by the bigger boys to send money to Atlas for a “subscription to his life changing self-improvement course”"<P> The rest of the interesting writeup here...<p> http://tinyurl.com/2zkg99

  • June 29, 2007, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Thanks chrth.

    by TELF

    Now, <p> Can I make it <p> Work?

  • June 29, 2007, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Nachonegro

    by blindambition238

    You tell me... I haven't seen Mad Max in years and don't remember any of it. Though I remember reading that scene and thinking that the Saw guys must of ripped off Moore. Nice to see the self-mutilating yourself to survive tradition has a long and proud history.

  • June 29, 2007, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Yay!

    by TELF

    I have taken my first steps into a larger world.<p> Ned, I totally agree with you about how to do the Freighter. Just have it there as a subtle reflection on events. <p> mode_7, I do agree that is legit flaw. I think it is a tricky one, but it could be overcome by an excellent performance to a degree. <p> The new script does seem to flesh him out more, but the only bit I have of that is his confrontation with R and NO at the polar base. <p> I just think it's a hard thing to translate because he is something of an ancillary character until the big reveal. The only way to fix it is to reveal his whole story (the spirit quest etc) but that might give the game away a bit: "why are they giving me all this info on a character who just seems to just be a semi-retired rich guy with a big brain and a utopian fixation... waitaminute!". Y'know.<p> A really well considered performance could sell the book's Adrian through what's in the screenplay, I think.

  • June 29, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Um...

    by TheRevenge

    I'm actually dumber now, having read that ridiculous post.

  • June 29, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST

    No Ratatouille TB?

    by Bagheera

    Danny Bonaduce for Rorshach

  • June 29, 2007, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Harry' suck site

    by harrys_site_sucks

    Harry's suck site it right. Thus my user name. or should it read Harry's site SUCKS. Where's some REAL news??????????//

  • June 29, 2007, 4:03 p.m. CST

    mode_7

    by TELF

    I know what you mean. I think the Manhattan change does serve two purposes though. 1. It makes all the stakes more personal to the established characters. Jon is seen as the key to the US's authority, having him (appear to) turn on his masters and humanity at large is a nice progression. 2. Because the threat is now more dispersed (instead of East vs West, there is now a Kashmir/India/Iran/US/Etc nuclear stand off), an entity that can attack across all borders at once better sells the reason for an end to hostilities.<p> But you are right, there is something purposefully hokey about the botched alien invasion. However, I got shivers at at that whole "I'll be watching" thing. Brings the whole "what do we want from our heroes/leaders/gods" into stark relief. Seriously, 15 million dead and a big voice in the sky saying "Behave" would get even a staunch atheist like me watching my p's and q's...

  • June 29, 2007, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Carrot Top as Rorschach

    by Trachten

    "I told my friends I was going to be The Comedian, but they just laughed at me."<p>Ba-dump-bump!

  • June 29, 2007, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Janusz Kaminiski = Flames on Optimus

    by Mel Gibsteinberg

    Wait am I in the right talkback?

  • June 29, 2007, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Thor script??

    by buffywrestling

    Who are they gonna cast? Triple H?

  • June 29, 2007, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Hope for this movie

    by krushjudgement

    I have.

  • June 29, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Crispin Glover for Thor!

    by finky089

    Perhaps Loki might be better for him, actually.

  • June 29, 2007, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Yes, Crispin Glover for Loki!

    by finky089

    start the movement now, friends!!

  • June 29, 2007, 5:09 p.m. CST

    I have the 5th draft.

    by TELF

    He hits about seven different countries and then takes over all media etc to deliver his ultimatum. How is the Tse script? As I say, I only have a little bit of that. It seemed a lot more concerned with explaining events. <p> Tom Cruise is tied up with Valkyrie I guess. I don't see law at all. He's too sinister. It would give the game away. Plus, he is kind of a whelp. Veidt should actually look like a comic book superhero. I'm biased in whom I'd like to get the part. There's a reason I met the Casting director...

  • June 29, 2007, 5:17 p.m. CST

    In plain words...

    by Benny Russell

    Why is it that most people demand everything to be so OBVIOUS?! The news here is not that Rorschach e-mailed Harry. Nope. If this website needed to be obvious, the headline would look like: "POSSIBLE VIRAL MARKETING WEBSITE FOR WATCHMEN FEATURE DISCOVERED?" Don't you get it? Come on. The news item was presented in the most funny way, that's all. And I liked. And e-mailed Rorschach as well. What the heck, relax a little, people, have some fun...! Haters: Quit AICN already. Go read the latest on Paris Hilton's GTA antics or something.

  • June 29, 2007, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Benny

    by TELF

    Quite right. The site is free. A labor of love for Harry, that turned into a business. This wierd sense of entitlement some TBers have confuses me.

  • June 29, 2007, 5:52 p.m. CST

    harrys_suck_site

    by Franco Begbie

    So, instead of coming on here, registering a username, then coming onto a Talkback to post under that name, why not just stop visiting the site? Jesus, how empty is your life?

  • June 29, 2007, 5:52 p.m. CST

    I liked it, sort of.

    by Eyegore

    Rorshach's messages were in character and cool. Harry's responses were kinda retarded. Why start off by insulting the man? Why continue? Like someone else said, it was a wasted opportunity.

  • June 29, 2007, 5:54 p.m. CST

    So I opened my email and it was...

    by Bill Clay

    ...another ad for generic viagra. Fucking spam!

  • June 29, 2007, 5:57 p.m. CST

    mode_7

    by TELF

    Great call on Kilmer. Perfect really. Although a little old now for this cast. But yeah, early 90's Kilmer would be awesome. <p> And, well, very often when you meet a casting director it is because you're, y'know, auditioning...

  • June 29, 2007, 6:35 p.m. CST

    mode_7, I've probably jinxed it now...

    by TELF

    But it's too fucking frustrating to be up for Ozymandias and not have any of your mates understand the gravity of the situation. Had to tell! It will most likely go to a name. I'm just a working actor with a great agent. But it's great that they are seeing people like me and not just going after a star. However, in all likiehood the role will go to someone much better known than me. Which is natural and the way of the industry. But still, just to be considered for this kind of dream job stuff is exciting and kind of a validation of the many sacrifices you have to make to try and build a career doing this stuff. And, of course, you'll be the first to hear of any developments...

  • June 29, 2007, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Stacy Keach IS the comedian

    by strangernparadis

    only Titus's dad can pull this off

  • June 29, 2007, 6:56 p.m. CST

    God I love this novel

    by MrJJonz

    And God, I'm not looking forward to this film. I'm just not sold on the director's previous attempts at films. I also think the novel is just too much to put into 1 film. I really hope I'm wrong and when the trailers come out I'm going to get massively excited

  • June 29, 2007, 7 p.m. CST

    creepy!! a nerd vs. another nerd!!!!

    by ludmir88

    better tell us about that script remake!!!

  • June 29, 2007, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Paris Hilton is Rorschach

    by messi

    It'd make perfect sense if Paris Hilton did her thing and at night she dons a mask and breaks criminals fingers to investigate the murder of someone. Badass.

  • June 29, 2007, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Mode_7,...

    by TELF

    I'm still an atheist.. Jinxes are real! It's science.

  • June 29, 2007, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Mark Hamill as Rorsach

    by krushjudgement

    Nobody would recognize him anymore either. It's perfect.

  • June 29, 2007, 11:37 p.m. CST

    He's also affordable

    by krushjudgement

    probably. I really want to see him in a quality movie again. I still really like that guy.

  • June 30, 2007, 12:54 a.m. CST

    did anyone actually get a reply?

    by blckmgk13

    cuz I did. kinda cool.

  • June 30, 2007, 3:01 a.m. CST

    Eugene Victor Tooms for Rorschach...

    by JTStarkiller

    It so works -- http://tinyurl.com/yrvhzc

  • June 30, 2007, 4:52 a.m. CST

    Yep, got a reply too

    by DannyOcean01

    Fuck the haters. Even if it is fanfict, at least it starts to generate buzz with one of the more interesting virals. And look, it's got people talking.

  • June 30, 2007, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Rorschach

    by NinjaChampion

    Hamill would be a good choice, he'd be able to do the voice right and it wouldn't matter how he looked in flashbacks because he wears a mask. And would the whole thing fit in one movie? Maybe 2 movies would work.

  • June 30, 2007, 11:01 a.m. CST

    I don't even know what to say about this.

    by Bronx Cheer

    Except "Boo." I'm Ramshackle, the new costumed adventure in the new Jay Roach spectacle, The Watchmakers. Will you be my friend? RDRR

  • June 30, 2007, 12:08 p.m. CST

    be nice to Rorschach.

    by sunny balliette

    be nice to Rorschach.

  • June 30, 2007, 12:38 p.m. CST

    LOOK: maybe this will answer your qquestion.

    by sunny balliette

    http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=27824 =broken code.

  • June 30, 2007, 12:44 p.m. CST

    scartch that

    by sunny balliette

    it actaully translates to "maybe you've forgotten how we do things around here..." http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html

  • June 30, 2007, 3:15 p.m. CST

    haha!

    by McClane_Corleone

    Write to me, Stick Stickly, PO Box 563, New York City, New York State, 10108

  • June 30, 2007, 3:45 p.m. CST

    HULK HOGAN FOR RORSCHACH

    by gambit88

    Rorschachs Journal: A comedian died tonight brother. And nobody cares. Nobody cares but me and the thousands of Hulkamaniacs running wild!

  • June 30, 2007, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Dakota Fanning for Rorschach

    by Bass Bastardson

    either her, or Rip Taylor.

  • June 30, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Jude Law is probably going to be Rorshach.

    by Darksider

    Everyone is just assuming he'll be Ozymandias.

  • June 30, 2007, 5:58 p.m. CST

    KITTY GENOVESE WAS THE START RR

    by DariusDax

    Haven't seen anyone else mention it so thought I would. On the RorshachJournal webpage there is hidden text at the bottom in morse code which says:- "KITTY GENOVESE WAS THE START RR" And of course, the murder of Kitty Genovese is the event which compels Rorschach to become a vigilante. Thought that was quite cool actually.

  • June 30, 2007, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Please tell me this is a set-up for an Exclusive,

    by Boober

    (yes, with a capital "E"). Because I just decoded some suspicious radio-wave-type energy patterns, and I'll be damned if it isn't Soundwave telling me he is going to stop by and let me know what his alt. form will be in TF2. He even hinted that he knows who the director will be!!!

  • July 1, 2007, 6:19 a.m. CST

    This is utterly fucking retarded....

    by Brundlefly

    What about 'Escape From New York"? Who the fuck cares about viral marketing bullshit?

  • July 1, 2007, 9:17 a.m. CST

    It's a marketing pitch to Warner Bros.

    by trollz

    If you look closer at the site, the image is hosted off admin.type40marketing.com. Type40 Marketing is a company run by Michael Regina, the site only went live on the 26th. He has two clients listed, but the entry for rorschachsjournal.com is listed as: "Viral pitch to Warner Bros./Zack Snyder regarding forthcoming 'Watchmen' film." In other words, it's not an official viral site, it's just a more-active-than-usual marketing pitch. The fact that he got such a write-up here and elsewhere on the web already makes it a pretty persuasive pitch, actually...

  • July 1, 2007, 12:13 p.m. CST

    I am not amused...

    by Johnny Smith

    The Internet is a fantastic home for a marketing campaign for a story that takes place in 1985. They need to go old-school for this. WB should vandalize subways with phrases like "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?", "The Comedian is Dead", "Remember Kitty", "Manhattan is the Most Dangerous Man Alive", etc. I want to see yellow smiley faces with a spot of blood over the eye on the side of buildings. I want to see ads for Nostalgia perfume in People and Time. Wizard and Entertainment Weekly need to interview Adrian Veidt. DC and WB could even team up to publish a few issues of "The New Frontiersman", or even get someone to ghost-write "Under the Hood" and publish it. Newsweek could publish an article about the Keene Act. Make it seem like we're a part of their world, as opposed to them being a part of our world (as with the Internet). I want to be inundated with this stuff. I want to get lost in it, and I want people to be confused and intrigued. I want people to watch the film if they do the story justice, and I just don't feel Internet marketing is the best way to go for it.

  • July 1, 2007, 4:57 p.m. CST

    MORSE CODE

    by patricknm

    this is what I put together from the hidden code at the bottom, mean anything? coordinates? saw greberid and yzjepcsku +40.754950-073.988058 an affair perhaps

  • July 1, 2007, 5:03 p.m. CST

    the coordinates

    by patricknm

    if they are coordinates it's in the middle of manhattan w 40th st. and fashion ave

  • July 1, 2007, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Morse Code

    by briguyblock

    It's Dan Dreiberg and Laurie Juspeczyk - Nite Owl and Jupiter.

  • July 1, 2007, 5:13 p.m. CST

    WTF

    by patricknm

    The location is a comicbook store.... Addresses & Info Midtown Comics Times Square 200 W 40th Street (Corner of 7th Avenue) New York, NY 10018

  • July 1, 2007, 5:39 p.m. CST

    I emailed the mofo...nothing.

    by dekionplexis

    Ermm..Dark Knight does this shit better..

  • July 1, 2007, 6:59 p.m. CST

    They need little smiley face buttons everywhere.

    by Darksider

    And "Who watches the Watchmen?" tagged on walls and posters. Maybe some fake Ozymandias self help books or merchandise.

  • July 1, 2007, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Rorschach's Journal: Rorschach has written to us!

    by emme

    Hello from ITALY, Your work is so fantastic! Rorschach has written also to us from Rorschach's Journal http://cinemanotizie.blogspot.com/2007/07/rorschach-ci-invia-un-messaggio-per.html Best Regards, eMMe CinemaNotizie.COM

  • July 2, 2007, 12:41 p.m. CST

    http://geekanerd.blogspot.com/ has some answers :-)

    by DariusDax

    When asked about the nature of Rorschach's Journal, Michael Regina (Editor-in-Chief of theonering.net, which is behind R's J) wouldn't confirm if it was an official viral marketing site or just some fan fun, instead giving us the cryptic: "Not sure, [Rorschach] just arrived one day asking for help setting up a website." That's a pretty funny image. Correspondence is continuing, we'll keep you posted if anything develops. Also, the new Morse Code message on the site reads: "SAW GREBERID AND YZJEPCSKU 40.754950073.988058 AN AFFAIR PERHAPS" I don't have my copy of Watchmen in front of me, but does anyone know what the heck those numbers mean? UPDATE from AHR: Thanks to Geekanerd commenters Dan and Anonymous for pointing out these numbers are in fact co-ordinates that lead to a location on 7th Ave ad 40th street, NYC. Although I originally speculated they were pointing to Midtown Comics, Geekanerd's super-secret contact at Midtown (who also happens to be a shadowy figure behind Pop Culture Shock) said that the co-ordinates are more likely referring to the location of The Gunga Diner, a restaurant Rorschach visits in Chapter 5, page 11. On that page, Rorschach's narration reads: "On fortieth and seventh, saw Dreiberg and Juspeczyk leaving diner. They didn't know me. An affair perhaps?"

  • July 2, 2007, 12:45 p.m. CST

    This is

    by Minuteman

    This is funny. <a href="http://www.watchmen-the-movie.com">www.watchmen-the-movie.com</a>

  • July 2, 2007, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Emailed back

    by EddieBlake

    I got an email back from Rorschach (I wonder if it helps that my name on here is eddieblake). I asked "Eddie Blake was killed. What makes you think you're not next?" The response was: "blake got lazy..RR. "

  • July 2, 2007, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Contact

    by Grievy

    He just e-mailed me back. I only asked him if he was there to see if it was an auto responder. I got a personalised reply saying he had read my website goldenageofcomics.com and was glad to see himself mentioned. I replied with some questions but no reply yet.

  • July 2, 2007, 6:44 p.m. CST

    GET CZAR DEN SKY TO CONTACT ME

    by DannyOcean01

    New morse code?

  • July 2, 2007, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Which is

    by DannyOcean01

    Get Zach Snyder to contact me. Which gels with an e-mail I got from the site that said: Warner Bros new Whore. Still weeping over Bluetights.net? NDC ------------------- bluetights went nowhere. should have picked michael. get snyder to contact me. .RR. Or is this just a confuzzle by Warner Bros??