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Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.

I saw that report that came in yesterday, and I didn’t post it because (A) the film’s done now and in a comedy like this, I’m not sure reading the script is going to give you a real hint of what the film will be like and, more importantly, (B) I rabidly disagreed with the guy’s take on the script.

Then again, I didn’t care for the first HAROLD & KUMAR, either. I know they threw a big shindig in Austin and the boys down there had a good time with it, but I thought the movie was pretty much a dud. Even so, the first film was a classic compared with the script for the second film, which felt like empty shock for the sake of it, as witless about pushing buttons as Uwe Boll’s POSTAL script, another example of someone trying to turn intentional outrage into comedy gold.

So I have to say, I’m not really surprised to see this show up tonight, and I’m offering it as a counterpoint to the piece yesterday:

Dear Harry,

Hey, I just read a mind-numbingly positive review of Harold and Kumar 2, and I felt the urge... nay, the civic duty to right this terrible wrong. Warner Bros./New Line held a screening on Tuesday night on the WB lot. The film is still obviously far from finished/polished, but what is on screen is not only one of the least funny movies since "Date Movie," it might be one of the most offensive and terrifying.

As a precursor, I am a fan of the original. Any film that can take the canned "pot road movie" and infuse a sense of not only new, inspired Dadaist comic sequences and social commentary deserves serious kudos. Whereas the original is, well, original, the sequel reminds me of "American Pie 2" in that both follow the EXACT SAME BEATS as their respective originals while utterly corroding any goodwill earned during the first films for the characters or their situations. The film has all the elements to be funny, but the punch-lines are either non-existent or so poorly written or timed that I found my head in hands shaking more than my mouth open laughing (I laughed, I believe, 5 times, one of which was for a ludicrous continuity cut between the boys driving through rain to an exterior of the brightest town this side of "The Truman Show").

As for the terrifying, even horrifying, aspects of the film. The original pointed out and critiqued societal prejudices and flaws: how police treat minorities (particularly black people), how mindless, pedantic, selfish, spoiled, and sheltered America's youth is (i.e. cell phone left gag), how being in a church and practicing the faith are two different things, how the media portrays minorities, etc.

In the sequel, societal flaws are pointed out (Gitmo, war on terror, racism, classism), but instead of being tweaked, these horrible truths of America are spotlighted and then, if not outright celebrated, shrugged off (SPOILER: by "GEORGE W. BUSH" (if you squint and don't notice the make-up)) as, "Oh, well, that's America fer ya'. Still, ya gotta love it!"

And, no, "Harold and Kumar 2" and the frattish brain trust in the back, I don't have to love it or even like it. Gitmo is real, torture there is real, racism is real. A cock-sucking joke does not point out how ridiculous they are. It only points out how ignorant America wants to remain (particularly young America). This film wallows in all the American ills that the rest of the world hates us for. Rather than acknowledge how wrong America may be, or even acknowledge that a world exists around these very real socio-political issues, the film cops out by using the word "fuck" as a joke or more homo-erotic (and homophobic) "cock" jokes.

Someone at the end of the screening called out at the end, "Gitmo is a real place. People are tortured there. It's not funny." Most of the audience thought it was funny though. Which was the scariest part of all.

Finally, the film ends (for the second or third time, but not the last) on an unabashed Amsterdam ad, the only nod to a real outside world, which is insulting and blatantly commercialistic but also slightly refreshing as you don't see anyone native of that country demeaned to a moustache and homemade boat (as are Cubans). There's a big difference between a "pot road movie" and a social satire. And, sorry, boys, but "Harold and Kumar 2" shows that these writer/directors cannot handle much outside of a bong (and a phallus).

If you use this, you can call me, oh, I don't know, Moe.

Thanks.

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First one ok
by Dazzler69
Jun 28th, 2007
06:31:50 AM
I thought they hated us for our freedom
by Horace Cox
Jun 28th, 2007
06:37:36 AM
I really enjoyed the first movie
by Boondock Devil
Jun 28th, 2007
06:40:53 AM
Can't blame Kal Penn really after all,
by Yeti
Jun 28th, 2007
06:42:01 AM
penis
by Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa
Jun 28th, 2007
06:48:49 AM
but does it have boobies??
by theonecalledshoe
Jun 28th, 2007
06:49:09 AM
Still am going to see this fukka....
by Freefinger
Jun 28th, 2007
07:01:46 AM
I thought the first one was hysterical
by Trazadone
Jun 28th, 2007
07:01:52 AM
This guy expected more out of a movie about burn rides?
by Mike_D
Jun 28th, 2007
07:03:42 AM
Damn you Michael Bay
by MCMLXXVI
Jun 28th, 2007
07:04:38 AM
Funny that Moriarty posts a negative after Merrick...
by Mike_D
Jun 28th, 2007
07:05:30 AM
I really liked EuroTrip
by tonagan
Jun 28th, 2007
07:06:26 AM
exactly what i thought
by Basehead
Jun 28th, 2007
07:13:08 AM
exactly what i thought
by Basehead
Jun 28th, 2007
07:13:10 AM
Fred willaird is very funny at the beginning
by emeraldboy
Jun 28th, 2007
07:19:44 AM
Peter Jackson for JLA!
by UltimaRex
Jun 28th, 2007
08:08:34 AM
Dadaist
by CherryValance
Jun 28th, 2007
08:16:19 AM
Moe is a left-wing idiot...
by 9000rpm
Jun 28th, 2007
08:35:08 AM
worst review ever
by ZO
Jun 28th, 2007
08:39:50 AM
This review is ridiculous.
by Frijole
Jun 28th, 2007
08:41:52 AM
And yes, EUROTRIP is hysterical.
by Frijole
Jun 28th, 2007
08:42:55 AM
I see that the orginally title was to have been...
by Sepulchrave
Jun 28th, 2007
08:43:33 AM
There ARE parts of the world that hate us for our
by Frijole
Jun 28th, 2007
08:45:25 AM
Ummm... what?
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 28th, 2007
08:45:41 AM
Also, I'll add another vote for Eurotrip
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 28th, 2007
08:47:26 AM
Here's all you need to know about America.
by Sepulchrave
Jun 28th, 2007
08:47:40 AM
lol@frijole
by Basehead
Jun 28th, 2007
08:48:37 AM
Having lived and vitied the midwest for about a decade
by Sepulchrave
Jun 28th, 2007
08:50:17 AM
"Our" simply meaning the ones in our country...
by Frijole
Jun 28th, 2007
09:01:36 AM
A Harold & Kumar movie for social change? Forget it
by Mr Incredible
Jun 28th, 2007
09:06:19 AM
wtf is this guy talking about?
by rebel299
Jun 28th, 2007
09:12:52 AM
Did I see a different movie the first time?
by tk 421
Jun 28th, 2007
09:13:43 AM
Has anyone seen The New Guy?
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 28th, 2007
09:14:36 AM
The cheetah
by tk 421
Jun 28th, 2007
09:16:08 AM
How did Gitmo become...
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
09:17:18 AM
Right on Kamala.
by Frijole
Jun 28th, 2007
09:21:19 AM
OK, "Moe" should be banned from
by DeCypher44
Jun 28th, 2007
09:25:17 AM
Problem with Gitmo
by tk 421
Jun 28th, 2007
09:26:16 AM
suddenly leftwingers are idiots
by emeraldboy
Jun 28th, 2007
09:28:54 AM
Internment...
by emeraldboy
Jun 28th, 2007
09:33:04 AM
tk 421 I agree there some problems
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
09:34:27 AM
"trying to turn intentional outrage into comedy gold"
by Spandau Belly
Jun 28th, 2007
09:44:24 AM
Kal Penn should consider himself lucky to be working
by Stuntcock Mike
Jun 28th, 2007
09:46:23 AM
Sepulchrave, "Fucking corporate suburbanite retards"
by Immortal_Fish
Jun 28th, 2007
09:47:17 AM
All countries have nice tourist spots but
by emeraldboy
Jun 28th, 2007
09:51:41 AM
Kamala
by tk 421
Jun 28th, 2007
09:52:21 AM
Hold on
by PacmanFever
Jun 28th, 2007
09:54:44 AM
tk 421 I agree
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
09:58:33 AM
Real question is Neil Patrick Harris in it?
by spectrebeeyatch
Jun 28th, 2007
10:06:14 AM
Moe is left-wing because the movie is
by ScamsAndFlams
Jun 28th, 2007
10:06:41 AM
I agree with old Marmoset.
by Borgnine JR
Jun 28th, 2007
10:08:50 AM
"Bullets!?! My ONLY weakness. How did you know??"
by Billyeveryteen
Jun 28th, 2007
10:10:00 AM
Freaky European Sex
by Frijole
Jun 28th, 2007
10:11:18 AM
the first one should have been horrible
by INWOsuxRED
Jun 28th, 2007
10:17:10 AM
sepulchrave
by kennofolds
Jun 28th, 2007
10:25:19 AM
According to IMDB
by PacmanFever
Jun 28th, 2007
10:26:25 AM
Everyone read Kamala's Post.
by solartaco3
Jun 28th, 2007
10:27:52 AM
Thanks for an HONEST REVIEW MOE!
by Proman1984
Jun 28th, 2007
10:51:10 AM
The lefty fringe
by El Scorcho
Jun 28th, 2007
10:55:12 AM
Grad student attends screening.. paper to come..
by Baron Karza
Jun 28th, 2007
10:55:55 AM
Fuck your hater review
by beerbaby
Jun 28th, 2007
11:02:59 AM
HAHAHAHAHA
by ballsmcretard
Jun 28th, 2007
11:22:18 AM
Who gives a fuck?
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
11:29:44 AM
Crazy Eyes!
by cheezwhipper
Jun 28th, 2007
11:30:09 AM
tk 421, I applaud you!
by Bill Brasky
Jun 28th, 2007
11:42:51 AM
It is very hard for people to make a difference
by emeraldboy
Jun 28th, 2007
11:43:54 AM
Big Dick
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
11:44:21 AM
Yeh but. . .
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
11:45:53 AM
and...
by Bill Brasky
Jun 28th, 2007
11:47:43 AM
emeraldboy
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
11:54:23 AM
We should be at war with the terrorist. . .
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
11:54:36 AM
Big Dick you have it wrong
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
11:56:49 AM
Big Dick
by Bill Brasky
Jun 28th, 2007
11:58:17 AM
Racial Harmony
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
12:04:15 PM
I Think We Need to be Afraid of "Moe"
by Mr. Winston
Jun 28th, 2007
12:05:21 PM
The only good war is...
by Cellar Door
Jun 28th, 2007
12:05:21 PM
War with a religion.
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
12:07:23 PM
Woe is Moe
by malpaso
Jun 28th, 2007
12:09:00 PM
This wins the award for most incongruous mixture of
by CreasyBear
Jun 28th, 2007
12:15:12 PM
"sect" makes it sounds like 12 people in compound
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
12:16:54 PM
Big Dick
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
12:20:35 PM
So
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
12:25:08 PM
Somehow...
by Clubber
Jun 28th, 2007
12:28:46 PM
Germany, England
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
12:29:40 PM
Americans. . .
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
12:30:27 PM
Germany, last year during a soccer match on TV..
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
12:39:50 PM
Big Dick two big important questions for you:
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
12:42:40 PM
Love for The New Guy?
by liljuniorbrown
Jun 28th, 2007
12:49:14 PM
American examples
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
12:52:17 PM
Shame
by CyberVishnu
Jun 28th, 2007
12:53:41 PM
In some places on Earth....
by Ninja Nerd
Jun 28th, 2007
12:54:51 PM
Big Dick when I was in high school
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
01:08:07 PM
What, we can't make fun of Gitmo?
by Wee Willie
Jun 28th, 2007
01:11:34 PM
one of the least funny movies since "Date Movie,"
by The Dum Guy
Jun 28th, 2007
01:17:04 PM
Black Attitudes Towards Education.
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
01:28:56 PM
Big Dick
by The Dum Guy
Jun 28th, 2007
01:37:36 PM
diverse countries
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
01:41:40 PM
I understand.
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
01:45:14 PM
The most disheartening thing to read is that
by skimn
Jun 28th, 2007
01:48:35 PM
Big Dick- Pensacola
by Frijole
Jun 28th, 2007
01:58:14 PM
Diverse Countries
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
02:01:50 PM
I have been in mexico a lot
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
02:07:12 PM
When someone makes an omelette our of 3,000 Americans..
by doctordebug
Jun 28th, 2007
02:19:10 PM
first one was hilarious
by Mr_X
Jun 28th, 2007
02:24:03 PM
Kamala
by The Dum Guy
Jun 28th, 2007
02:26:06 PM
kamala it was holland not denmark
by Basehead
Jun 28th, 2007
02:27:10 PM
Frijole
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
02:50:17 PM
Bill Brasky
by tk 421
Jun 28th, 2007
02:58:13 PM
I supported the war for one reason
by emeraldboy
Jun 28th, 2007
03:03:09 PM
Big Dick- You're using the lack of blacks
by Frijole
Jun 28th, 2007
03:23:10 PM
And bringing up who you did and didn't hang out with
by Frijole
Jun 28th, 2007
03:27:07 PM
There are only white people in my building
by BringingSexyBack
Jun 28th, 2007
03:36:44 PM
EvilWizardGlickm, we shouldn't deny the 911 conspiracy?
by classyfredblassy
Jun 28th, 2007
03:36:44 PM
Glick- Do you support firefighters? Lifeguards?
by Frijole
Jun 28th, 2007
03:41:10 PM
Moriarty must be deeply depressed
by Razorback
Jun 28th, 2007
03:51:26 PM
P.S. Gitmo is a great place
by Razorback
Jun 28th, 2007
03:54:32 PM
How do you fight a war against a...
by Cellar Door
Jun 28th, 2007
03:55:50 PM
anyone who believs 9/11
by El Borak
Jun 28th, 2007
04:02:08 PM
Frijole
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
04:07:36 PM
"Someone... called out" Yeah, Moe did! Agenda review!
by Razorback
Jun 28th, 2007
04:09:41 PM
What happened to the two recent Sicko articles?
by ELGordo
Jun 28th, 2007
04:12:10 PM
Big Dick
by Frijole
Jun 28th, 2007
04:30:39 PM
EvilWizardGlickm, question for you>>>
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
04:40:22 PM
Frijole
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
04:43:27 PM
The New Guy
by yaba
Jun 28th, 2007
04:48:19 PM
I think you like saying "on paper".
by Frijole
Jun 28th, 2007
05:05:49 PM
There truly IS torture happening in GITMO right now...
by Immortal_Fish
Jun 28th, 2007
05:06:29 PM
Question?
by deadshot07
Jun 28th, 2007
05:06:59 PM
I'm with Cellar Door, but I fear...
by The Dum Guy
Jun 28th, 2007
05:08:58 PM
Frijole
by Big Dick
Jun 28th, 2007
05:12:30 PM
And::: on race, there is this funny thread @....
by The Dum Guy
Jun 28th, 2007
05:13:10 PM
ohh, the thing is at...
by The Dum Guy
Jun 28th, 2007
05:14:21 PM
torture...
by The Moseph
Jun 28th, 2007
05:21:28 PM
The irish are neutral
by emeraldboy
Jun 28th, 2007
05:24:05 PM
Sounds funny from the first reviewer.
by Quake II
Jun 28th, 2007
05:35:07 PM
Immortal Fish, do you recall when..
by Kamala
Jun 28th, 2007
05:38:28 PM
no one does mindless comedy like Beerfest.
by angry kitty
Jun 28th, 2007
05:45:10 PM
tribal knowledge
by nemov
Jun 28th, 2007
05:47:00 PM
Saving Silverman > Beerfest
by classyfredblassy
Jun 28th, 2007
06:15:37 PM
Reviewing a H&K movie is so easy.
by BillyPilgrim
Jun 28th, 2007
06:38:49 PM
"parts of the world that hate us for our Freedom..."
by PurityOfEssence
Jun 28th, 2007
06:40:57 PM
Kamala, re: "1993 bombing"
by Immortal_Fish
Jun 28th, 2007
06:58:36 PM
medling in Middle Eastern affairs
by classyfredblassy
Jun 28th, 2007
06:59:44 PM
Using the moral obligation card as justification
by Immortal_Fish
Jun 28th, 2007
07:02:04 PM
"Ron Paul...US continous medling"
by Immortal_Fish
Jun 28th, 2007
07:09:30 PM
The 1st "Harold & Kumar" was...
by farleydave3
Jun 28th, 2007
07:21:37 PM
Amsterdams not funny
by BurgerKing
Jun 28th, 2007
08:02:26 PM
so it's pretty much the same movie...
by Johnno
Jun 28th, 2007
08:15:49 PM
Oh, and TOO SOON!!!!
by Johnno
Jun 28th, 2007
08:18:13 PM
Moriarty you must bee too old...the first one rocked!
by Sappers Forward
Jun 28th, 2007
09:14:24 PM
One more thing...MOE IS A FUCKTARD narrow minded fool.
by Sappers Forward
Jun 28th, 2007
09:23:45 PM
comedy
by spidertz83
Jun 28th, 2007
09:27:09 PM
euro trip
by spidertz83
Jun 28th, 2007
09:32:41 PM
Jesus Christ,...just read some of "Big Dicks" posts.
by Sappers Forward
Jun 28th, 2007
09:36:30 PM
REALLY!!??
by VinnyMac666
Jun 28th, 2007
10:20:50 PM
dark knight teaser online now
by slappy jones
Jun 28th, 2007
10:54:29 PM
SO INCREDIBLY OFF TOPIC
by VinnyMac666
Jun 28th, 2007
11:37:07 PM
Sepulchrave...
by ewokstew
Jun 28th, 2007
11:50:56 PM
Gitmo = comedy gold
by Doctor_Sin
Jun 29th, 2007
01:02:08 AM
There is a disappointing lack of New Guy talk here
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 29th, 2007
02:20:03 AM
Smells like...
by TheRedRightHand
Jun 29th, 2007
05:05:18 AM
Emeraldboy
by Lost Prophet
Jun 29th, 2007
05:07:56 AM
MOE is a douche
by GooBoy
Jun 29th, 2007
07:33:10 AM
re: bigdick and friolje
by losder
Jun 29th, 2007
08:28:47 AM
This sounds more entertaining than all the blockbusters
by BringingSexyBack
Jun 29th, 2007
08:29:34 AM
I know, it is even worse than last year
by Lost Prophet
Jun 29th, 2007
08:37:05 AM
Thanks losder...
by Frijole
Jun 29th, 2007
08:56:18 AM
Also
by losder
Jun 29th, 2007
08:59:25 AM
Werd man
by losder
Jun 29th, 2007
09:58:35 AM
My favorite place to eat here...
by Frijole
Jun 29th, 2007
10:19:09 AM
This is recent development
by emeraldboy
Jun 29th, 2007
10:42:27 AM
america talks a lot of shit about terriorism
by Kloipy
Jun 29th, 2007
12:40:48 PM
KLOIPY
by Frijole
Jun 29th, 2007
01:51:38 PM
Crabman, LOL, was that you?.... & that DK laugh...
by The Dum Guy
Jun 29th, 2007
01:56:23 PM
Frijole
by Kloipy
Jun 29th, 2007
02:18:35 PM
Gitmo
by rutan07
Jun 29th, 2007
03:23:04 PM
Kloipy, that's actually called, "geocide"
by s0nicdeathmonkey
Jun 29th, 2007
05:46:12 PM
Franklin T Marmoset
by s0nicdeathmonkey
Jun 29th, 2007
05:49:32 PM
Kamala
by s0nicdeathmonkey
Jun 29th, 2007
05:52:22 PM
Maybe.....
by dromoe
Jun 29th, 2007
05:55:10 PM
Big Dick
by CondomWrapper
Jul 1st, 2007
12:50:49 AM

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