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Another Moe’s Got Some Choice Words For HAROLD & KUMAR GO TO AMSTERDAM!
Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.
I saw that report that came in yesterday, and I didn’t post it because (A) the film’s done now and in a comedy like this, I’m not sure reading the script is going to give you a real hint of what the film will be like and, more importantly, (B) I rabidly disagreed with the guy’s take on the script.
Then again, I didn’t care for the first HAROLD & KUMAR, either. I know they threw a big shindig in Austin and the boys down there had a good time with it, but I thought the movie was pretty much a dud. Even so, the first film was a classic compared with the script for the second film, which felt like empty shock for the sake of it, as witless about pushing buttons as Uwe Boll’s POSTAL script, another example of someone trying to turn intentional outrage into comedy gold.
So I have to say, I’m not really surprised to see this show up tonight, and I’m offering it as a counterpoint to the piece yesterday:
Dear Harry,
Hey, I just read a mind-numbingly positive review of Harold and Kumar 2, and I felt the urge... nay, the civic duty to right this terrible wrong. Warner Bros./New Line held a screening on Tuesday night on the WB lot. The film is still obviously far from finished/polished, but what is on screen is not only one of the least funny movies since "Date Movie," it might be one of the most offensive and terrifying.
As a precursor, I am a fan of the original. Any film that can take the canned "pot road movie" and infuse a sense of not only new, inspired Dadaist comic sequences and social commentary deserves serious kudos. Whereas the original is, well, original, the sequel reminds me of "American Pie 2" in that both follow the EXACT SAME BEATS as their respective originals while utterly corroding any goodwill earned during the first films for the characters or their situations. The film has all the elements to be funny, but the punch-lines are either non-existent or so poorly written or timed that I found my head in hands shaking more than my mouth open laughing (I laughed, I believe, 5 times, one of which was for a ludicrous continuity cut between the boys driving through rain to an exterior of the brightest town this side of "The Truman Show").
As for the terrifying, even horrifying, aspects of the film. The original pointed out and critiqued societal prejudices and flaws: how police treat minorities (particularly black people), how mindless, pedantic, selfish, spoiled, and sheltered America's youth is (i.e. cell phone left gag), how being in a church and practicing the faith are two different things, how the media portrays minorities, etc.
In the sequel, societal flaws are pointed out (Gitmo, war on terror, racism, classism), but instead of being tweaked, these horrible truths of America are spotlighted and then, if not outright celebrated, shrugged off (SPOILER: by "GEORGE W. BUSH" (if you squint and don't notice the make-up)) as, "Oh, well, that's America fer ya'. Still, ya gotta love it!"
And, no, "Harold and Kumar 2" and the frattish brain trust in the back, I don't have to love it or even like it. Gitmo is real, torture there is real, racism is real. A cock-sucking joke does not point out how ridiculous they are. It only points out how ignorant America wants to remain (particularly young America). This film wallows in all the American ills that the rest of the world hates us for. Rather than acknowledge how wrong America may be, or even acknowledge that a world exists around these very real socio-political issues, the film cops out by using the word "fuck" as a joke or more homo-erotic (and homophobic) "cock" jokes.
Someone at the end of the screening called out at the end, "Gitmo is a real place. People are tortured there. It's not funny." Most of the audience thought it was funny though. Which was the scariest part of all.
Finally, the film ends (for the second or third time, but not the last) on an unabashed Amsterdam ad, the only nod to a real outside world, which is insulting and blatantly commercialistic but also slightly refreshing as you don't see anyone native of that country demeaned to a moustache and homemade boat (as are Cubans). There's a big difference between a "pot road movie" and a social satire. And, sorry, boys, but "Harold and Kumar 2" shows that these writer/directors cannot handle much outside of a bong (and a phallus).
If you use this, you can call me, oh, I don't know, Moe.
Thanks.
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I will wait for DVD on this one for sure. Rental.
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At least that's what the dick with ears in the White House says.
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I had more than a few pretty good laughs while watching it. "C'mon Pookie, let's burn this muthafucka down!" still cracks me up just thinking about it.
With that said, it's a little disheartening to see someone else who liked the first movie really despising the sequel.
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a cheque is a cheque.
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If so leave it alone... all thing national-lampooning-style work out fine.
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Why not... Harold and Kumar was no Oscar winning script or performances, but C'mon... It was enjoyable from start to finnish...I just hope that this reviewer had his hopes way too up there and just could not match the excitment making this an un-enjoyable movie experience... I hope... Kal got his reputation handed to him by the Superman Returns shitty movie.. Will he be the next one to be hit by the Superman curse that got most actors who participated wipe from Hollywood spotlights, drunk or dead??I sure hope not. And Cho... C'MON PEOPLE he's freaking great! Funny as hell that guy!ps. anyone know where I could get the tv series of "Off-Center" to bad WB pulled the plug so early it would've been the next great comedy series.
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Funniest comedy I had seen in a long time.
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The first movie had the guys riding a cheetah and Neil Patrick Harris as a horny drug addict. What exactly were you looking for in a sequel to a movie with those elements?
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Damn you Michael Bay
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posted a postiive review for the flick (Moriarty even admits that he hates the franchise).
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Just thought I'd throw that in there. Comedy's all relative anyway.
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after reading the previous post. what the fuck is going on? it sounded like the worst writing since van wilder 2. what is the common thread between these 2 flicks again?
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after reading the previous post. what the fuck is going on? it sounded like the worst writing since van wilder 2. what is the common thread between these 2 flicks again?
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but the movie runs out of steam quickly after that. AS we dont have that burger chain that was mentioned in the movie. The movie was renamed Harald and Kumar get the munhcies. What so funny about that. We dont have white castle over here. It would be like as if Paddy Breathnach(iwent down , blow dry and Man about dog) made a film called Sean and jack go to supermacs) most american sudiences would go super what, now?. While I liked american Pie 1, I couldnt stand the rest.
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... That's it. I got nothin.'
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Peter Jackson for JLA. (BTW hi MCMLXXVI)
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Am I supposed to know what that means?
Anywho, this guy seems to hate it because he disagrees with the jokes. And since humor is relative I don't see that this review helps me at all. I saw and loved the first Harold & Kumar and I don't think there was anything of substance in that review to deter me from the new one. It seems as if Moe was expecting 'Harold & Kumar hate America' or at least wanted the movie to take some kind of political stand or high road. WTF? It's Harold & Kumar. -
...and his panties are in a knot because H&K aren't up to his zealot standards. Oh, no, "horrible truths about America" shrugged off. Who would have thought, just when I was expecting Syrianna II. Fucking POS.
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that wasnt a film review of a comedy. that was a left wing kook rant about how much he hates america. wheres the editor here?
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Anyone looking for social commentary in the first movie is a pretentious dweeb. Anyone faulting its sequel for its lack of it is too. Two other points 1) Yes, EUROTRIP is hysterical ("Hey! This isn't where I parked my car!") and
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"Hey! This isn't where I parked my car!"
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Harold and Kumar Go to Gitmo. Nasty stuff. Oh and right-wingers, if you want to shit out your right-wing crap, go do it on a page that doesn't have to do with a stoner movie, you rectally-challenged, weasel-dicked losers.
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freedom. Hello? We are seen as far too liberal. The fact that we allow our women to work and vote. The fact that we allow our homosexuals to live amongst us. The fact that we don't shoot down our own dissenters in the streets. If you think otherwise, then you're a tool.
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Not having seen the film, I don't know what this guy is going on about for the bulk of this review. Maybe it really is offensive or ignorant or whatever, but I would much prefer to know whether it was funny. It is supposed to be a comedy, after all. I liked the first one, and that was not exactly witty. It was stupid, and stupid is fine with me as long it's funny with it.
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That is an equally stupid film, but fucking hell it made me laugh. Plus, it has 'Scotty Doesn't Know' and one of my favourite random cameos by an actor who's too famous to be in the film.
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"Certain portions of the film were edited out of U.S. cable television releases of the film, including those where 1) Kumar calls police with a phony story about a shooting to clear the police station; 2) Kumar's daydreams of an abusive life powered by marijuana smoking; 3) discovery of a romantic cassette in the extreme sports guys' vehicle; 4) the black prisoners' lawsuit at the end of the film; 5) the two British women's 'battle' in the bathroom; 6) the reference to animal semen in a competing burger chain's 'special' sauces; and, most notably, 7) the final TV news gag of a highly stereotypical sketch of the two lead actors, based on police descriptions."
Fucking corporate suburbanite retards can't handle the weskest shit. -
"our" women and "our" homosexuals...
oooh and if i may choose myself: i would love to be a screwdriver -
I would say that the average Michigander or Iowan has approximately the educational level, social values and supertitions of a Russian or Indian peasant. Oh and yes, that compaison is based on visits to Russia and India, too.
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When he was talking to Harold from the interview?
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versus the ones in theirs. Sheesh. Not an implication of "ownership". No different than saying "our citizens".
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The first was funny and stupid and made me laugh. I took it for what it was. Just like everyone else has been saying for Old School or EuroTrip or whatever.
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have an equally big challenge in trying to find the Madonna in a taco...
Although, I did see Guy Richie in a dump I once took...No, that was Swept Away!
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seriously. its a fucking stoner movie, not an analytical piece about the underbelly of american society. this would be like saying that Porky's is a sly look at mid-century bigotry, domestic violence and the corruption of the small town political system. you know, sometimes movies aren't meant to be anything more than mindless entertainment. to look that deeply into a movie that at one point features 2 potheads smoking out with a cheetah and then riding it to get to a fast food joint is just a blatant display of being an overcritical pompous ass. my only hope is that in reality, the guy who sent in this critique is just bull-shitting around.
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I know there were jokes about how the cops treat minorities, but that's not really insightful social commentary just obvious fact. I felt it was more of a stupid, funny movie about smoking weed, getting the munchies and NPH rolling on X. Maybe I didn't get it, but that worked for me.
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I was thinking of other enjoyably stupid comedies, and that one came to mind. I've yet to meet anyone else who's seen it. It's got D J Qualls in it, plus miss hubbalicious herself, Eliza Dushku. It is utterly retarded, but in a good way. D J Qualls goes to prison for breaking his cock!Anyway, this is a recomendation for all those who also liked Harold & Kumar and Eurotrip.
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was/is a metaphor for how Americans are dependent on foreign oil.
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the worst thing happening in the world. You have people rioting and promising suicide bombings because England knighted an author, you have three people who had their hands bound and their throats cut because they published a book, a priest shot in the back and multiple business burned down over a cartoon, you have a filmmaker slaughtered like a pig in the streets of Denmark over a film, and over 200 people killed in riots over a beauty pageant, and yesterday we had 5 Spanish peacekeepers blown up in Lebanon, and yet, on a site that likes to discuss movies, books, and cartoons, and champion peace instead of war, you would think these things would have more weight than prison that some times make life uncomfortable for people who have no problem blowing up a school bus or a red cross center in the name of Jihad.
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Right on.
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reviewing any non-political movie in the future. Seriously. He must be a riot at parties!
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Is not necessarily locking up bad guys. As a lefty commie pinko liberal I can say that I whole heartedly support the locking up of terrorists. I think the problem is, and I may be wrong, the perceived abandonment of the rule of law in the prosecution of enemy combatants. As a society based upon the rule of law we have committed to providing everyone the protections afforded by the law. I know that a lot of legal professionals and scholars, including the naval lawyers working with those prisoners, have serious doubts about Gitmo because the feelilng that these principles have been abandoned. I could be wrong, but that's what my problem is with the whole thing.
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if left wingers are idiots, then what the hell are rightwingers. The way I see both are as dumb as each other.
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the british tried that and it didnt work. All the prisoners were eventually let out under the terms of the good friday agreement. Internment does not work. never did.
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But the way the hard left sees Gitmo as the ultimate evil in the universe and their highest priority is somewhat mystifying to me. Like right wingers in congress fighting steroid use in Baseball or online gambling. Granted, Gimto is a heavier issue.. I just use those as an example.
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All you Family Guy fans will love it! Maybe if they also follow that classic comdey teaching that references in themselves are somehow funny this will be the highest grossing film of all time.
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The guy is a hack.
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Those seven examples you provided sound more to me like decisions of liberal pandering, not because the fly-over states can't handle it. After all, we wouldn't want anyone's feelings to be hurt, would we?But, you're right. America is a horrible, horrible place that just so happens to be better than anywhere else in the word.
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all citizens can claim that there country is the best or the worst. Like Ireland. There is a lot about Ireland that is great but a lot that aint.
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I'll agree with you to the extent that there are a lot more problems in & with this country than just Gitmo. I guess that's why I get pissed when someone, Moe, tries to assign some sort of political meaning into a film that's pure escapism. Why can't a stupid movie about weed just be a stupid movie about weed?
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The Harold and Kumar sequel has not only been officially greenlighted, but it's in the can? I guess I'm a bit behind the times. I liked the first one okay, but the enthusiastic response it received from critics was frankly baffling. They manage to fit jokes about Guantanamo Bay in the sequel?!?! I don't even know what to say about that. I'm curious what they think the prospects for this sequel are given that the last one made about $23 million worldwide (the budget was low but it was fairly heavily promoted too). More importantly than all of this; do Cheech and Chong make a cameo appearance (as the former hinted they might)?
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The movie should be seen as comedy. I just find it ironic that people like Moe get a rise in their pants when they see Christians upset by a sculpture or South Park, but using Gitmo for comedy is crossing the line. How rich!
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And is he still tripping on drugs? If not I suggest they make a spin off movie series about him wandering the country stealing cars and taking LSD. I would see that movie in a heart beat!
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No wait that's retarded talkbacker-with-a-political-axe-to-grind logic.
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EuroTrio and New Guy are both stupidly funny. Eurotrip might be a bit funnier, but New Guy has that amazing scene where Dushku tries on all those bathing suits for DJ. WOW! A scene like that makes you feel good all day. Now if only we can get Michelle Trachtenberg to do a swim suit montage. I wouldn't mind seeing Buffy's baby sister blossom into womanhood.
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Sorry, but the first H&K is hilarious.Ignore Mori, and his obvious bias, and give the second H&K a chance.
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That is all.
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it worked for me mostly based on the charm of the main characters, and the doogie houser cameo. It wasn't a fantastic movie, just suprisingly better than expected. I have the same low hopes for the 2nd film, so maybe once again it will suprise me and be okay. I'm glad to see a negative review posted on AICN, especially after a positive review was posted. I know it just means someone wasn't invited to a junket or didn't get some free gifts, but at least they ran something negative instead of filtering it out.
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I guess Iowa being ranked in the top 10 in education for the last 20 years and having one of the top engineering schools in the country(Iowa State) and medical colleges (Iowa "also no.25 best public university") makes us no mannered simpletons. You realize that Iowa is the first primary state and has selected more primary winners who went on to win their parties selection than any other state. Learn how to spell superstitious, visited and comparison before you degrade an entire region of the country. Just because we are happy living a rural life doesn't make us any different than you metropolitan shit-on-everyone who doesn't sell out to living in a rat race ASS HOLES in fact it makes us better. suck it. I'm going to get a slider. over n' out.
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This film actually has a lower budget than the original. That's something of a rarity these days.
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Its the most level-headed, logical goddamed thing I've read here in a long time. I love you.
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I will be skipping... no make it boycotting this one.
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is too often allowed to represent the left as a whole. Too bad for all you lefties. That is all.
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At least he has fodder for his fucking paper due on Monday. I love people who live to be offended.. they are such cunts.
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Because your review about how America sucks is ridiculous. "I hate a stoner movie because it makes fun of our flaws... BECAUSE WE ARE EVIL AND SHOULD HATE OURSELVES!" Wah Wah Wah. I am sick of people hating on America, especially Americans! Not criticizing its policies but out and out hating. For the last time, if your going to hate instead of be constructive JUST LEAVE THE COUNTRY. Did you hear me, not love everything we do, but stop the bile and work to make a difference, constructively or just GO! No one will miss you. Furthermore whiny bitches like you never take the time to vote and thats why nothing changes. Also other countries leadership do alot of messed up things and the world doesn't hate them. In fact, the world doesn't hate America, they have just used our stupid illogical war (Because Countries in China, Europe and Middle East never have ongoing stupid illogical wars right?) to be angry at us in the same way that a five year old sibling gets mad at you when they find you smoking pot. Not really mad, just disappointed because they assumed we were the greatest ever, cause we told them that. Why don't some people Focus on what we do good (which is alot) and maybe people would feel like fighting to make things better. I hate all of this derogatory shit. Bring the hate and bile, hate yourself, do whatever you want. Its America, your allowed.
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I zoned out for a second there while reading....you said you liked it because it had "cocksucker" jokes?! Rad! I heart "cocksucker" jokes!
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America does suck.
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The New Guy is twice a year required viewing. Pretend it's a prequel to Hustle and Flow
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Thank you for your stunningly calm, cool and thought-out response. As a moderate conservative (more Libertarian than Republican really...) I get alarmed more and more each time I try to read through these talk-back forums on AICN. But I digress...Let me throw my 10 cents in on GITMO.
First, I am a junior Army officer, prior enlisted, and have been in for almost 17 years. I have a tour in AFG and two tours in IRAQ. (one, waaay back in '91 when I was 18 years old). I have also spent 13 months as a company commander at GITMO. Now, I know that I am opening myself up to a lot of fanboy criticism here, but I wouldn’t be on this site if I wasn't interested in the same things as all of you; movies, TV, comics, etc...so as a disclaimer up front...I am not some FBI computer nerd monitoring Internet Pages, or whatever. I am just a regular Joe, who happens to be in the US Army.
So, now to GITMO. Bottom Line Up Front, without any political pandering - GITMO is about as different from all the stories that you have read and "documentaries" that you have seen as can be. The facility is bright, clean, antiseptic and user friendly. You could practically prepare a meal on the floor there. At no time in human history has there ever been a Prisoner of War Camp as humanely constructed or planned as GITMO. The terrorists that are captured and put there are all treated fairly and as humanitarianly as possible* (sometimes it is hard not to yell at someone after they throw their feces and urine at you). They are given the proper meals (Halal) and religious items (prayer mats and Koran.) They are routinely seen by Muslim Chaplains and are frequently allowed to write letters to their families. (Although, the letters are read and sometimes censored; if you disagree, there is no need to explain, you just disagree).
There is no torture. I can’t explain it any more clearly than that. The soldiers (at least my soldiers, the ones that I was in command of) don’t beat or abuse the prisoners in any way, either mentally or physically. Believe me, as officers, we all know what Abu Garaib is and how it tarnished the image of our profession. That shit does not float anymore….and it never should have. Here’s what I am getting at: All of these easily penned accusations of ‘Torture’ and the ‘evil nature’ of GITMO. Well it just ain’t true. While GITMO isn’t a Caribbean vacation, it definitely treats those that want to harm us in a humane way.
Now, like I said earlier, I am not going to do any political song and dance. The only thing that I will mention is that, while not officially at war with any sovereign nation, we are at war. Those that are held at GITMO were captured in Afghanistan or other foreign battlefields and do not have the same constitutional rights as an American citizen. I believe that even a foreigner captured on American soil should have the same rights as anyone else in the United States and should be able to stand trial under our laws. Foreign fighters that are captured committing acts of terrorism or by their actions, supporting terrorism in territory outside the United States do not have the same rights and by that logic do not require the same treatment that other suspected criminals have within the United States. Someone like Jose Padilla is guaranteed his rights under our constitution. Someone like Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the admitted mastermind of such events as 9-11, the Bali Nightclub bombing, and the 1993 WTC bombing, who was captured in Pakistan, does not. Again, just my opinion, disagree if you will, but I stand by mine.
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anyhwere. You start out wanting to change but what happens you get sucked up by the party machine. That chews you up and spits you out. and one walks away embittered and frazzeled. Martin Luther king was not allowed to bring about his vision of Racially harmonious because the powers that be didnt want it.
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Your name is also an appropriate adjective to describe yourself to others. Now that's verbal recylcling and efficiency at its finest
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America still sucks.
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If you don't think that we should be at war with the terrorists, just go to google and type in "WTC Jumpers". Click on images and marinate on those for a while...
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The biggest stumbling block to racial harmony is this desire to let your ethnic background be defining characteristic about you, while you hyphenate yourself into different groups. Martin Luther King asked for people to be judged on the content of the character, not the color of their skin. Then Al Sharpton and other hucksters tell people they are African-Americans, not Americans. How does hammering out loud the differences between people instead of what they share in common help things? I honestly believe most people in America do give a fuck what color you skin is, so long as you are honest, work hard, and don't hurt people. When you have things tossed out there like "Post Slavery Stress Syndrome" and "Aztec Math", it is not racist to call it out as bullshit, as the Al Sharptons of the world would have you believe...
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meaning we shouldn't be at war with a country that had nothing to do with 911 while leaving Saudi Arabia alone.
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We are not at war with a country, we are at war with fanatical version of a religion. The islamic jihadist don't fight in the name of one country, so why limit it in that way?
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you hit the nail on the head. Just because I wear the suit, doesn't mean that the suit wears me.
Oh, and WeinerPenis, when you start calling people 'retarded', you lose all of your credibility. In the words of Delroy Lindos Panties, "GO FUCK YOURSELF." -
I think African Americans seperate themselves from white America because they do feel that there are differences. Ignoring differences is impossible. The problem in America is that the different cultures don't enjoy these differences but let them divide us. America is so segregated that we don't even realize it anymore. Have you been to church lately? Looks kinda segregated hmm? Just the fact that black neighborhoods from the 50's are still black neighborhoods today and the fact that no one thinks this is weird shows how backwards this place is.
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If you can allow yourself to get twisted up over the way Guantanamo Bay is depicted in a HAROLD AND KUMAR movie, you either have real, complicated mental problems or you're an insufferable douchebag.
That's not to say you have to like the movie, but what are you going to get pissed at next? That the guys in JACKASS are emotionally and physically abusive to shopping carts and bushes? -
the war against that son of a bitch Energizer bunny. We need to bomb that prick back to the stone age! I'm sick of his smug bunny face and those "so 80's" dumbass sun-glasses and those idiot flip flops...banging that god damned drum all hours of the night and swirling his stupid beaters. Hey energizer bunny...I got a cellulose-encased-laser-guilded-bomb with your name on it you bastard!!!
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So why did we invade Iraq? Iraq's fanaticism wasn't bad compared to other parts of the middle east but yet we chose them. Why are we even fighting a religious sect anyway?
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Sounds like Moe went home and cried himself to sleep on his Che pillowcases.
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movie and talkback-theme.
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Were are talking about tens of millions of people here, that have aimed to overthrow governments from India, the Philippines, Thialand, etc., and also has it eyes set on Europe, especially Spain. Iraq? I am not really for the troops being there now myself. But to take out Saddam and his goons? Absolutely. It doesn't matter how many strongly worded condemnations or resolutions you pass. If there is no teeth to them, thugs keep on being thugs, see Sudan for an example. But Gitmo houses people caught in the broader war on terrorism, not Iraq insurgents.
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In my "hood", next door is black man married to an asian women on one side, on the left side is an Indian couple, then some white folks, then a couple from Brazil, then a couple from Germany. I am married to a hispanic women. This is an upper-middle class neighborhood. And we have had any race riots yet, and evey one hangs out together. So where else on the planet do you get this kind of mix?
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. . .when was the last time you had dinner with your neighbors?
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I seem to remember Daily Show, SNL, Letterman, Leno, Conan O'Brien, Craig Ferguson, et al making jokes about Gitmo for 5 years, yet somehow this is the first time this douche saw tasteless jokes about Gitmo? Take a step out of the libtard blog space and experience the rest of society with it, thanks. H&K2? I mean, we're not expecting Lawrence of Arabia here.
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I lived both places for over three years and they both had a pretty good mix of cultures that actually mixed.
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swear that they are the only country with cultural diversity mostly becuase they've never experienced any other place.
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fans threw bananas on the field and started chanting "APE! APE!" (in German of course). In some schools in France they teach that black people have smaller brains, therefore aren't as smart as white French men. I think they still have some work to do.
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Does grill outs every sunday count? And...
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Good Lord in heaven. That movie was an unfunny abortion that couldn't decide if it wanted to take itself serious or be outrageous and funny. It started as a direct Revenge of The Nerds rip off ( just watch the scene where the kids get dropped off at high school,identical to the first day at college scene)and ended up being so retarted it was just unwatchable. As far as Harold and Kumar 2, last I heard they were filming in Louisianna.
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Your examples are like me saying that America has more blacks in prison percentage wise than South Africa did during aparthide. America is not better than any other western country! If you do actually hang out with your multicultural neighbors you are part of the minority. When I came back to the states I lived in Pensacola Florida to finish school. I was the only black male in all of my classes for my entire year and 1/2 of course work. My only friends were my black friends from my old neighborhood back when I lived in one of the balck neighborhoods in Pensacola Florida. Look at any highschool yearbook and see how you have blacks on one side and whites on the other. Anyone who says Americans intermingle culturally doesn't know what intermingling is. They are deluded. I am black and I know the way I was treated there was much different than the way I am treated here.
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Yeah...people who planned and carried out 9/11 are being tortured and mistreated in Gitmo...such a disgrace. They deserve a fuckin medal eh chief? You sound like a real liberalist dickhead. It's a fucking MOVIE!
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...the comments in this TB would get you into worse places than Gitmo or killed. So, be glad you can be a complete imbecile in complete safety and freedom! As for H&K...I thought the first one was OK. Waited for Starz HD to show it and it was funny for WHAT IT WAS...a stoner road trip film. Given that I've had a few trips at least as bizarre, I got it. Yeah, the whole thing with the rowdy rednecks was almost social commentary, but just barely. Ultimately, it was a silly, over-the-top comedy. The new one may or may not be funny. I could care less about it's societal impact because IT'S A STUPID COMEDY. One man's trash is another man's treasure. So, make you own call on whether or not to see it, but don't use an idiotic film as a springboard to deep, socio-political discussion. This is AICN....the pig will never sing, OK?
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Some of the "cool" blacks guys were busting on "nerdy" black girl because she carried too many books around, and they ribbed on her because she got straight "A's". They told she trying to be too "white". Maybe that type of mindset has something to do with being the only black male in your classes.
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Considering what goes on there, tastless jokes seem pretty apropos to me. The first H&K was not a great movie by any stretch, but it was funny and it sure didn't take itself too seriously. Plus it had some very funny jokes about institutionalized racism.
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Dear, God Above:A thing like that must not happen. I wouldn't even be able to comprehend how it could be equal to Date Movie, because that wasn't sorta funny, it was just mind numbingly awful... I was once talking about this movie to a boss one day (I swear this person has a pretty awful taste in movies) and at the same time we both uttered that that film (Date Movie) was "retarded".
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There is a bad attitude towards education in the American black community. It is also an attitude that doesn't exist with blacks outside of the country. I believe a lot of it still has to do with the seperation of our cultures.
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I get what you are saying in how America does have differing cultures, but I think that it really comes down to region as far as racial intermingling is concerned. I've live all around the country, and I've found that the most racially diverse areas, i.e. different races hanging out together, is usually more prevalent in areas where they all have similar incomes and educations. For the most part areas with alot of military personel are like this.I guess it just comes down to where you are, and not always who you are. I say all this as someone who is Caucasian, that usually doesn't hang out with alot of white people (I don't like country music, I live in an area of the country where "whites" are the minority, and I have a pretty even temper).But, then again, maybe I've just be subjected to good examples of racial intermingling, I've actually had some people tell me I'm pretty cool for a white dude, to which I say, "What?".
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How come nobody ever slams place like China or Mexico for being only one race basically. Every been to them? Not many brothers, not many indians, etc...
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I was in the Army and I feel like it is the least racist organization in the world because all of the different cultures are forced to intermingle and they all become friends. In the civilian world, it seems as if the different races stick by themselves in most cases. Even if the population is diverse they still do not intermingle. One thing I miss in Germany is that there seemed to be admiration for other cultures. Black music is called black music in Germany. Everyone went to the Mexicana fest and the brazil fest.
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Fred Willard is in this. After his brilliant work with Chris Guest , his damn funny role in Anchorman, even his role on Everybody Loves Raymond, he appears in both Date Movie AND Epic Movie, and now this (along with sketch work on The Tonight Show with Jay LoBlow)...
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I live in Pensacola and have no idea what you're talking about. The only "white" areas are in the outer, more rural areas of town. Hell even Tate High School, the redneckest of the redneck schools in the area has a heavy minority percentage. And as for where people live. I've lived in pretty much ever part of the city and even in Gulf Breeze and have never NOT had minority neighbors. Currently, I live in East Hill... which is the largest single residential part of town in city limits. And East Hill is about as racially diverse an area (and economically too- from one room apartments to mansions all in the same neighborhood) as I've ever come across (and I've also lived in the 9th Ward AND Garden Districts of New Orleans too, so I'm not only privy to life in these parts). So using a southern city whose public schools are fully integrated and strongly mixed between whites and blacks and every other race- from Tate to Woodham to Washington High (even the richies out in Gulf Breeze) and whose residential areas (with a few exceptions) are EXTREMELY diverse racially... well that just doesn't do much to support that particular point.
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I think the point isn't really how many different races are in a country but how they treat their differences in general. I'm sure that the Chinese and Mexicans feel as if there is more diversity in their coutries than we think there are.
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Having lived on border in New Mexico. The strange thing is they use race jokes all the time, mainly on blacks and gringo's (white boy) and if you call them on it, they don't see the big deal. There race jokes aren't frowned down uponas much. Every see some of their postage stamps? But the people there that 100% Spanish (not native mexican) look down on every one else.
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sure as hell some eggs are going to get broken. To think otherwise is insane. Look up whan the Soviets used to do with islamic terrorists (hint: it wasn't nice)
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no really, loved it, will definately watch the second one.
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I've seen the same thing, and had it directed towards me (rarely). I've been to parties where I'm the only white person with a penis, and someone will crack a gringo joke then look at me like "Opps, sorry".One instance that was funny, was onetime someone (not Caucasian) said white people smell like lettuce, to which I laughed and said Mexicans smell like re-fried beans, they then acted like I said something offensive and asked why I said that. To which I said, from my experiences, Mexican people eat re-fried beans, like "white" people eat salads.
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but i get your point.
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I was talking about I was the only black male in my telecommunications classes at the University of West Florida. The high schools may be mixed but there all bused in from seperate neighborhoods. Are you trying to tell me Gulf Breeze is a diverse community? You just stink of denial. Now tell me how mixed Wedgewood is. Now tell me about the mixed area of Pensacola Village. Shanty Town has a big cultural mix too, hmm. I have a feeling that your life in Pensacola and my life in Pensacola is so different that you really don't know what I'm talking about.
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Dude, thanks for serving and doing what you're doing. Seriously, I've got mad respect for you and all your soldiers. Thanks for keeping us safe.
I would say that a guy like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is a piece of shit. So he can go fuck himself. But, my problem with Gitmo is what I've been able to read re: the Hamdan decision. I agree, Gitmo is lumped in/confused with Abu Ghraib and it's not accurate or fair to make those comparisons. But what it seems to me, and I'm only a 2L so forgive my naivety, is that the military tribunals I've read about run contrary to our system and notions of justice. The US should be offering everyone equal protection under the law regardless of nationality when we place them within our judicial system. We should show other countries that regardless of race, religion or nationality that the rule of law supercedes that. These tribunals seem to abdicate this responsibility and that's what disappoints me.
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Step n' Fetchit baby.
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to get rid of Saddam and awful family. They should have been in and out. But they stayed. the man responsible for the war is Ahmed Challabi. Who lied to the entire world. Why. seemingly he had some sort of warped belief, that he and and his supporters would rule iraq. But he turned out to be a liar and went to ground, when all his lies were exposed. More fool uk and the us for believing him. Idiots.
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Our 3k! Just how many were "Mericans"?
Better yet, how many people around the world has the US shit on? Everyone from South America to our own Native Americans.
The best part is trying to deny the conspiracy side of it all. The convenient tests of the day. The mysterious falling towers. The ignoring of at least 27 seperate warnings.
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That has to be the dumbest reason yet. Maybe we should nuke the fucking saudis for the same reasons?
Or the goddamned Israeli's?
Since you support the war why isn't your sorry ass in Iraq? They need boots on the ground.
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in an ELECTIVE college course as an example of lack of racial diversity???? People come to UWF from all over the country. Whose choice is it who takes a telecommunications class there? That's just ridiculous. And yes, I am using Gulf Breeze as an example. When I was a kid there wasn't a single white kid in my neighborhood or in any of the public schools in Gulf Breeze... By the time I graduated (I lived and went to schools in Gulf Breeze on and off through my whole education) there were hundreds of blacks and other minorities from other backgrounds living in GB and going to public GB schools. That is called PROGRESS. You're implying that we have not progressed, and while it may not be as diverse as some of the older areas of Santa Rosa and Escambia counties (relatively speaking, it is still a young community) it has made significant PROGRESS towards diversity. And you can shove your other examples in a sack- you can't take the farthest ends of the racial/ economic spectrum and use them as examples of the MEDIAN. You use the MIDDLE as the median. And East Hill and North Hill are two of the (if not THE) most populated residential areas in the city limits and they are also the most racially and economically diverse. You don't judge a community by it's extremes to one side or another... you judge it by what is in between.
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is a ridiculous argument as well. That is just as much your own doing as anyone else's. People gravitate towards what they are comfortable with. I'm comfortable with everyone... and as such hang out with people of numerous backgrounds. If you chose to only hang out with old friends from your old neighborhood, then it doesn't surprise me that you saw no other side of what Pensacola is today.
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Maybe minorities aren't stupid enough to pay $830K for a 1-Bedroom apartment.
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Jun 28, 2007 3:36:44 PM CDT
EvilWizardGlickm, we shouldn't deny the 911 conspiracy?
by classyfredblassy
Your right, if I just Google those two words, it will make every thing clear. After all, only a fool doesn't believe everything he reads on the internet!
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Then where re your helmet and red trunks. The "if you support the war, then why aren't you a soldier" mentality is soooooo Anti-Flag tshirt. You're embarrassing yourself.
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The fuckin' guy is the most negative person on AICN. I am sure he will jump on here to say how happy he is, but I don't buy it. He always has to shit on someone's parade. Plus, having actually met the dude and talked to him I can tell you that there is some gigantic hurt deep inside this man. He is 2 bad days from suicide.
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Stop being a bunch of pussies. Terrorists cut off the heads of their prisoners. They deprived a few prisoners of their sleep at Gitmo. Waaaah! Fuckin' pussies. You Americans are such fuckin' whiners.
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...bass drum beating smug robotic god damned rabbit? With patriot missiles and ak-47s! That's how! And while you're at it, place in improvised explosive device up his smug ass and watch the stuffing fly!!! Kill the energizer bunny before it's too late!!!
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was a conspiracy is desperately sad.
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We will never agree on Pensacola's diversity. We obviously see it very differently. I wouldn'd say Pensacola lacks diversity. I say that it's segregated. The schools may be integrated on paper but, like I said, look at the yearbook class photos and see how all of the whites are on one side and all of the blacks are on another. I was a volunteer teacher at PHS. I know PHS has a good mix of students so why were all of my classes all black? Telecommunications was my major, not an elective. Within all of my classes within my major I was always the only black male. I don't think my opinions of Pensacola are strange. It is called Lower Alabama for a reason. It is the epitome of the deep south. If you think the deep south is an example of great cultural intermingling then you're crazy. I left seeking a better place. My brother left. Many of my friends left. Whenever I talk to someone who used to live here they always talk about how segregated it is. You talk about how diverse Pensacola is then how diverse is your own social circle? For you to think that pensacola is a shining example of racial harmony is rediculous.
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The AICN crew is the dumbest bunch of fucktards on the Net. This guy writes an agenda review and you post it. He was probably the shithead screaming about Gitmo at the end. He was probably the only shitbird disliking the movie because he projected all his own issues onto the movie. Hell, the intent of sending them to Gitmo is to slam the US government and this moron doesn't get it. He is one of these losers who thinks the only way to get a message across is to ATTACK head-on. He and Mori should get together and decide on a method of self termination.
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I've been looking for the two recent Sico articles, the review and the interview with Moore and they are nowhere to be found.
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First I didn't mean elective as in and elective like Basket Waeving. I meant a class/ course structure that you CHOSE. Perhaps you should be asking why more blacks don't CHOOSE telecommunications as a major. There are plenty of blacks and minorities at UWF... a school that people CHOOSE to go to. You cannot fault or call foul on the school or the area with what people within it CHOOSE to do. Speaking on telecommunications, I work for a phone company here. It is one of the largest non-industrial single site employers in the region, with hundreds of employees all working in the same office. Guess what close to half of our employee force is. Yep, BLACK. And the other small percentage that makes up the rest of that 50% is largely Indian and Asian. That is a single example. One that ultimately is indicative of nothing. Just throwing it out there as a counter. You are using PHS as a single example. Well I have never worked at or attended PHS, so I cannot comment. But again, a single example does little when you're arguing over the big picture. I am not claiming that the Pensacola area is an oasis of racial/ economic diversity and harmony. But to claim it as an example of the south (or the country as a whole, I forget which your claim was)still being some total black hole DEVOID of it, is just wrong. Oh, and as for my social circles... I don't hang out at the Bunny Club or the Platinum Club if that is what you're asking. But I also don't hang out at the Grand or some country club either. I hang out at racially neutral places. Meaning places that do not cater to anyone and allow everyone. The Handlebar, The Azalea sometimes even Seville or Bedlam. I have several black friends (god, how cliche', but you asked). One of my good buddies is Mike Smith. He's a black 30something teacher here, so depending on your age you may know him. He is the nicest, blackest man I know. He also plays in a punk rock band *gasp* called Cockfight and gives tennis lessons *double gasp* on the side. A true rennaissance man. My neighbors to the left and right of me in East Hill are black. One is an older lady that I do not know... she works in her garden a lot and we exchange pleasantries, but that's about it. The other is "Tiny". Tiny comes over for barbeques and drinks regularly. A hard working blue collar guy who works for the city and loves his camaro. Across the street we have a white lawyer, a jewish ex Navy officer and a gay drug dealer. It's like a Benneton ad. Again, none of this matters in the big picture, but you DID ask.
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The immediate reaction from some (notice I said "some", moonbats) in the islamic community around the world. Joy and celebration. Remember the fat lady dancing around gaza handing out candy (hey, if those people are supposed to so impoverished, how did she get so fat)? My cousin was in the dinning hall at his college. He said some arab students stood up and start clapping when they saw the second plane hit the towers on tv. Thankfully there greeted by some chairs in the back of their heads, but I digress. All over the world, there were groups of Islamic types (not all, I say again), right friggin after it happen. Before the US even hinted who the 19 hijackers were. Now, mr. moonbat conspiracy nutsack, when they started celebrating, where they saying to themselves, "Hurrah! The Jews and Necons have framed us! What a great day, Allah be praised!"?
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This conversation is getting distracting. My main point is that America is a very segregated place. On paper we've integrated but socially we remain segregated. If you think Pensacola is an example of racial harmony well that's up to you but I think you must not have very many examples to pull from.
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I just finished watching The New Guy. I watch it when I need a good laugh. It's a great movie.
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I've given more examples than you. You've given extremes. I've given the (wildly more important) grey area. "On paper" is as integrated as the country/ community has the power or need to guarantee it. There will be huge numbers of every race/nationality that flock to/stay amongst their own because that is what they are comfortable with. That is their CHOICE. I'm not one of those people. And there are thousands and thousands in this community and millions and millions in this country that aren't either. And this is another post that makes it look as if you didn't fully read my previous one. I specifically said that I do NOT consider this area to be an oasis of racial harmony. I was simply countering your view that it is nearly devoid of it. No community, county, parrish, city, state or country in the WORLD will ever be the aforementioned Oasis. Because again, too many people flock to their own. But in looking at (again) THE BIG PICTURE, I'd say that about half the people in this area couldn't care less what color anyone is. The other half (and SOME blacks are just as guilty as SOME whites, SOME asians, SOME jews, SOME whoever of putting race before other, more important factors) are the ones with the problem. I'm glad that things continue to move towards making that 60/40 or 70/30 or 80/20 instead of 50/50... a slow, but sure process... but a process that does have a finite end. Sometimes people just refuse to let anything BUT their own race or the race of others dictate their lives... and that is sad. But they'll always be there, no matter how progressive we ever become as a country or as a planet.
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Our soldiers are routinely spat upon by the prisoners, who also throw feces and urine soaked bedding at them. The prisoner's meals are better and cost more than the meals provided to our service men and women.Our soldiers are being tortured. End this torture at GITMO now!!Bill Brasky, I salute you.
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Wasn't this already released? Called Hostel I think.
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The bunny will just keep going, and going, and going.... Because you can't stop him....And The New Guy was pretty dumb, except for a few parts. But, that just me.What kind of world do we live in when a movie based on pot-smokers 'Talk Back' delves into race relations and 9-11 conspiracies?
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I think you should bring up this discussion to Mike Smith. I have a feeling his opinion is probably a bit different than yours.
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Those wonderful people who you seem to have some sort of thing for would be more than happy to kill your ass as soon as look at you. And you want to buy them a Slurpy and call 'em your buddy...
EVERYONE who is NOT a Muslim and that they cannot convert to Islam, they WILL KILL them. Period. These people aren't interested in being pals nor do they want peace. They want us all DEAD. And no, I don't like what's happening in Iraq and I'm pretty peeved with Bush about a lot of things, but when it comes to the terrorists and all who follow them, support them, etc. you need to get informed and I don't mean by watching the mass media moron channels. -
we support america in other ways. We allow the american military to refuel in Shannon. and we offer tax breaks to american companies like dell and other to operate in Ireland. The irish Armys role is merely peace keeping and A very fine job they do to. I should point out that, i no longer support this war. That stopped the day the british walked all over dr. david kelly. I say they killed him and covered it. So that there would not be any obstacle to the british going to war. There is one thing that I disagree with the anti war movement and that his they keep saying that Ireland was neutral like the swiss. How is having your statelet threatened with invasion and bribedby the murderous nazis, the same thing as being neutral. What happened after the war in ireland is very interesting. It has now been reveles that Dev, our president, founder of Fianna Fail, allowed three members of the nazi party who were involved with Belgian resistenance, to stay in ireland. Two of them became members of Fianna Fail and Albert Folens set up the hugely successfull Irish Education company, folens publishing.
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I think he went in with the right attitude. Terrorist and "Gitmo" jokes are fine by me. Remember the old saying...."Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke". If you can't laugh at political humor, the terrorists win! We are where we are right now. It's ok to laugh at life sometimes. Everyone is sensitive and offended so easily. This is a stoner movie. Plain and simple.
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One the sub-humans in jail for the 1993 bombing at the world trade center ( was that the necons too?) created a make-shift knife out of comb and stabbed a 50 year -old prison guard in the eye so hard it caused serve brain damage. That is what happens when you put these savages in a regular prison. If they are true Jihadists, Gitmo is nicer than they deserve.
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seriously. No politicial message- just beer and lots of it.
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gitmo is yet another example of liberal self-loathing. they speak of torture while terrorists kidnap and kill thousands. they've beat the drum of "torture" for so long most of the nutjobs believe it as a religious fact.
looking back i wish 9/11 would have happend in 1998. Clinton would have bombed the middle east back until the stone age. He had no problem dropping bombs on Bosnia and Aspirin factories. At least the liberals would shut the hell up b/c one of their beloved idols was in the white house.
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You all know this to be true.
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A caveman can do it.
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Sorry but I don't buy into that - I tend to agree with what Ron Paul said. That is that the United States Government's continous medling in Middle Eastern affairs has generated hatered and anomosity. Using the moral obligation card as justification for invading Iraq is silly. Yes Saddam Hussein did awful things - but there is a whole lot of people in the world doing awful things - and we do nothing. All we've done is make a mess of things one we aren't sure how to clean up.
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You mean the one where we caught two Iraqi citizens trying to drive a bomb loaded van into a building? Yep, remember it well. Not that Iraq the country had anything to do with it of course. They are so way innocent and we shouldn't have engaged in any military action, like, ever dude. Especially not since they were firing at our planes in the no-fly zone and offering reward money for suicide bombers in Israel. I mean, how is that sponsoring terrorism anyway? I mean, we have absolutely no reason to go over there and put an end to it all. I mean, there were only, like, 17 UN resolutions against Iraq, right? Israel has, like, WAY many more UN resolutions against them, dude. Does it really matter that the resolutions are all voted from fundamentally ideological opposite countries? Like, no, it doesn't matter at all. We should listen to cool breeze Ahmawackajob and wipe that pig state of Israel straight off the map, yo!
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as a reason for terrorism falls apart when you look at all the other areas were Jihad is fought and bombs blow-up in the name Allah. last summer German Authorities caught some islamic types planning to blow up a train, simply because the German government didn't come out strong enough against Israel during the some war in Lebanon. Maybe they figured Germans did a number on the Jews before, I don't know. In France, they broke up a cell plotting attacks because of the head scarf law. Hey, why not just move out France, they are not indigenous to the country. America's foreign policy just gives them another excuse, and a big stage. When American doesn't stay to help things, like when the Soviets were run out of Afghanistan or after the first Gulf, the same people blame America for "abandoning" the people of the region. Go figure....
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Yet we should go into Darfur? Or how about Liberia?Somalia worked out well.
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Yep. Ain't no better way to fix a problem than allowing it to fester.And fester.And fester.Gosh, wonder what today would have been like if we clobbered Baghdad back in 91. The Kurds would have kinda liked that, I think (cue 'humanitarian missionary' response in reader...)
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Okay, here's the thing. The first one was screened at my school for free, and I saw both screenings since I worked there. Then my friends wanted to see it in theaters so I paid to go see it one more time. That being said, the movie was waaaaaayyy better than it had any right to be and I pretty much knew, as soon as they announced it, that the sequel would suck! I'm not surprised by this review, or the comments by people with the blind faith, or stupidity to wanna go see the next one after reading this. Think Deuce Bigelow:European Gigilo.
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Amsterdam is a real place, people are tortured there, it's not funny.
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Basically like White Castle they get lost along the way to Amsterdam and end up in Gitmo and all sorts of places until they finally get there. But I'm not complaining, the first film was kinda fun. The titty shots are pointless though... like at least come up with some unique way for girls to have to expose their titties... Work it into the plot somehow... Just pulling up their shirts cause they're party girls is just lazy...
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You can't make fun of that Gitmo shit yet! Show some fucking responsibility! It's TOO SOON MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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Jun 28, 2007 9:14:24 PM CDT
Moriarty you must bee too old...the first one rocked!
by sappers forward
Anyway dude, the first movie was friggen hilarious. Three scenes come to mind that had me in stitches (not in any specific order): 1. the jail scene. 2. Hospital scene. 3. Doogie showing up and steeling Harry's car. Runners up: 4. The jackasses yelling extreme. 5. The elevator scene with the hot chick. 6. first few seconds of cheetah scene. Come on man, that shit was funny! Was your old ass expecting an epic adventure or something? Hey! Just kidding about the "old" shit, relax. I'll bet I'm as old or older than you. Although I can still run back to back 7 minute miles. God how I wish I was still in my twenties...
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Jun 28, 2007 9:23:45 PM CDT
One more thing...MOE IS A FUCKTARD narrow minded fool.
by sappers forward
Moe wrote: "Gitmo is real, torture there is real, racism is real. A cock-sucking joke does not point out how ridiculous they are. It only points out how ignorant America wants to remain (particularly young America). This film wallows in all the American ills that the rest of the world hates us for."
Hey jackoff, if you think that's bad try visiting some 70% of the rest of the world and really get a taste of what torture, racism, and inequality is. I've been around the world and not just to the "pretty" places and have seen first hand just how brutal man kind can be. Go on enjoying your sheltered, sugar coated version of reality. -
comedy is very subjective, relative, situational, and personal...
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i actually thought euro trip was better than road trip... both were really funny tho. But come on... you throw Harriet the Spy in there and everyone wins...
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Are Moe and Big Dick the same person? Can someone check please. What an idiot. Probably the guy that got picked on in school for being such a whiny little bitch.
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This has to be the most ridiculous thing I have EVER read on AICN! Seriously, why was this review even considered for posting!? I'm sorry, but if you're seeing a movie like Harold and Kumar and you are looking for deep social commentary; you have walked into the wrong theater my friend. These kinds of movies exist for cheap laughs (i.e. Taco Shits). You know the kind of things that are only funny when you're baked... c'mon. What do you want Michael Moore presents Harold and Kumar Go To Guantanimo Bay! Reading this review was a waste of my time. The only thing that really matters is addressed once... funny or not? I can't take this guys word for it, because he wasn't there to laugh. He was there to be challenged and to think. And as much as I love a movie with depth and REAL substance, I can also love a film like Harold and Kumar, because sometimes it's good to forget about life for awhile and to sit back and laugh at the absolute absurdity of it all. Yeah, Bush is fucked up and has done some fucked up shit, but if we even sit and dwell while we're trying to laugh... then we'll loose our fucking minds. Laughing at it is the only way to cope with it sometimes... (that turned into a rant rather quickly... sorry)
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http://tinyurl.com/2gpl82 really bad quality but ledgers laugh is choice
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But... TDK Teaser!!! That laugh is choice... any idea what he's saying before hand....
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I use to live in Michigan and your description of the average "Michigander" is off the mark.
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Tragedy is always funny.
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Jun 29, 2007 2:20:03 AM CDT
There is a disappointing lack of New Guy talk here
by franklin t marmoset
That is a shame, Ain't It Cool types. Well, at least one person said he liked it, and he reminded me of Eliza Dushku's swimsuit montage, which I plan on keeping in my head all day. thatnks for that, buddy.Everyone else, back to the politics.
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Deuce Bigalow 2 to me.
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I have left you alone for a long time, but you really have gone too far. If you honestly think the Good Friday Agreement was anything other than a revolting capitulation that allowed murdering vermin to escape richly deserved punishment then you are fucking simple. You shame my Irish heritage. Big Dick- the UK is not as wonderfully diverse as you seem to think- race riots were everywhere a few years ago and there is currently a parliamentary whinge about making immigrants learn English. Which suggests that a lot of them don't speak it and have no intention of learning.
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He sounds like those fucking crazy pro-abortion (not pro-choice) ultra feminists calling KNOCKED up pro-life propaganda. Ya can't just sit back and enjoy a comedy that takes some mildly shocking, yet funny, jabs, can ya? You sir, are about as useful to this world as the soiled tampon I just sucked outta Condi's twat.
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I passed through Pensacola in highschool, and I went to 7 different schools in the area in about 3 years.
Let me say, you're both right here. There is a deep south/good ole boy culture there. But there is also a relatively progressive military community there from the naval base. I had both experiences, sometimes mixed, and sometimes seperate.
In one predominantly black school (by perdido), I got my socks stolen off my fucking feet. (the next week I gave that kid a whole package thinking he needed them and he punched me in the face) I was constantly in trouble in the good ole boy schools and situations because I was from Alaska and didn't observe all their stupid fucking mores or laugh at their racist jokes.
At the same time, half my middle class neighbors and friends were black. One of my best friends was from Jordan and the other was black, skateboarded and read comics with me. First girl I talked up after moving there was black, at least half the little kids my mom fed cookies to were black. On top of that, most of the rednecks/white southerners were pretty good people too. We had block parties on the 4th of July and folks were good to eachother and it was great.
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Jun 29, 2007 8:29:34 AM CDT
This sounds more entertaining than all the blockbusters
by bringingsexyback
this summer. 2007 will go down in history as the worst year for cinema ever. Harry Potter better be good.
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and I didn't think that was possible.
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Glad to see yet another perspective from this area. I never meant to imply that my experiences here were the only ones possible or that my feelings on the diversity here were the only ones possible... just Big Dick's weren't either. For a backwoods beach town, I think we do just fine.
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For the few of you who jumped on Big Dick (lolz), I have no doubt he saw the ugly end of an oldschool white patriarchy down south. I saw it too, it fucking sucked for me and I was white. There were racists, old money, classicism, etc. That's not all there was there by a longshot, but that could certainly be all one person saw. My family was fresh to the area and so we moved around a lot before settling, but most people don't have those kinds of options.
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Yeah all my favorite places to eat are there. Among the places I've lived, it was one of the better ones.
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The H&O... a *gasp!* black, soul food restaurant.
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But an Inla man who was relesed under the terms of the good friday agreement has been dolling out hand grenades to local thugs. SO the potential for massive loss of life is enormous. if a kid who doesnt what a hand grenade is finds one. There will be a small crater. I dont know about you but the idea crims throwing hand grenades around south dublin is chilling. Had the public known that crims were going to get early release, the good friday agreement would have been rjected soundly. but like most things with blair it was spun. I live in south dublin.
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when the people who founded this country are probably the most famous terrorists of all time. I mean what do you call what they did to the NATIVE americans?
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That is a stupid argument. Comparing the actions of people today and the actions of people hundreds of years ago is pointless. The world is a more civilized place now than it was 500 years ago or even 100 years ago. The Muslim extremists are not. That's kind of the point.
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Works.I always had high hopes, but now it is Sealed (Kiss From a Rose style) that I'm going to like it... or be completely devistated if it sucks.
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Is it really more civilized? Even in America. just because we have more technology doesn't mean we are more civilized. People still kill each other over stupid shit all the time. People put their kids in the microwave. Racism is still an issue. America was the cause of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and I know people will say that it was the end to the war, and yet how many innocent people were killed in that? Just the idea that we feel the need to be the only country with WMD's sure doesn't seem like a civilized argument to me. Just watch the news some night and you will see how only the surface has changed.
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Let us see...let us see...we torture them in Gitmo by doing what...water boarding which is basically fake drowning them or...or...we get them all naked and make them do cheertastic stunts. On the other hand they, and I'll just call them terrorist, I like that word, cut off heads, do gang rape, attach bombs to journalists, and love to practice other events that brutally dehumanize females and they do all of that to their own people who haven't committed any crimes what so ever rather then those who have been found guilty of lets say...oh...being terrorists. So anyway I agree with the rest of the world and this movie...Gitmo sucks..according to Micheal Moore you get free health care there, you get room and board, and sometimes,just sometimes, they have the evil gal to not even really drown you. Those inhuman monsters! Let me live in Europe or France where people are treated with such dignity that they riot in the streets and preach of the down fall of their country also in said streets. It must be better there.
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not terrorism.
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I LOVE THE NEW GUY! I've probably seen it 7 times.
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The problem is that by having these prisons we are placing ourselves one step closer to being like the mother fuckers who would do that to innocents. Also, there is no evidence that the vast majority of these prisoners have committed any crime.
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When i read the script i found it hilarious from beginning to end. Granted I haven't seen the movie yet I feel this review was way to harsh. Yeah gitmo relly exists and people are being tortured there. But whatever, what are you doing about it? It's a comedy movie for christ sake and only 10 minutes of it take place in gitmo anyway. so go take a cold shower.
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Race relations in the US have gotten much better than the 1950s and increasingly interracial couples among young people are becoming a common site. What's more is that while some of the older Americans (of any color) may still find it odd that white and blacks date or whites and Asians or black and Asians, etc...most young people in the US don't care. "Who cares what color their skin is? They're happy, good for them." I remember my first two girlfriends in college a few years back were Asian (I'm white). It wasn't really a big deal, although I experienced some problems from some Asian guys who were jealous. And my second Asian girlfriend, who I dated for almost two years, wouldn't tell her Chinese immigrant parents about me because they'd be upset that she wasn't dating an Asian. But her brothers and sisters knew and they were cool with it. Things will get better, it'll just take time. I think the US is far more racially intergrated than you think, but racially separated neighborhoods are not the result of institutionalized racism, but the choices of the people who live there. They CHOOSE to live in neighborhoods with people of the same race. ....As far as your college class only having you as the only black male, I think that may have to do with young black males and their attitude towards education, which is really hurting the black community. I highly doubt your school turned down every black male that applied for your major except for you, they most likely didn't receive many applications from black males. And if you want to see really blatent racism, go live in Japan or Korea for a few years or Eastern Europe. Good God, I'm shocked how racist the Japanese are about everyone who isn't Japanese, considering how highly educated they are. Although the young Japanese girls seem to dig men of different colors, but they still think they're better than them.
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