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24 To Get New U.S.
President In 2008??
I am – Hercules!!
“24” producers may be installing a new president, according to TV Guide's Michael Ausiello.
And it looks like the successor to David Palmer, John Keeler, Charles Logan, Hal Gardner, Wayne Palmer and Noah Daniels may be female.
I find this interesting not because of the character’s gender, but because the producers have been talking about big changes for “24” next season, and possibly even taking the Counter-Terrorism Unit out of the picture. (Though, Ausiello says, CTU's Chloe O'Brien is likely to be back in some capacity.)
But having a new U.S. president as a character very much adheres to “24” pattern and tradition.
A sitting U.S. president has been a major character in every season of “24” except the first – and even season one focused on powerful U.S. senator and presidential candidate David Palmer, who was then only months from ascending to the highest office in the land.
And every season of “24” except season three has begun with a new president in the White House.
If producers plan to create a new president, this suggests that whatever Jack Bauer is up to next season, he’ll continue to draw the attention of the most powerful people on Earth.
And here’s a wacky idea that just crashed into my brain. What if the new president’s name turned out to be Sandra Palmer?
New episodes of "24" return to Fox in January.
Find all of Ausiello's story on the matter here.
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24...blech. Lets do it orginal..this show is getting old and i hate saying that.
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sorry i was so pumped to be first..i said..fist. fist. ha.
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I ain't hating.
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Last season sucked. This season better do something different, because the formula is getting old.
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Unless Jack is president, and has a sex change. Then, I"m right back in this thing.
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And Logan? And all the other character that the producers lost interest with? And, while I'm here, what happened to 24?
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oh gawd no. She was awful. If we're throwing out bad ideas, I hear Rosie O'Donnel is looking for a job.
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How about an all Zombie cabinet, too? It can't be any more ludicrious than last season, amnesia or a random cougar!
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That would be fun, and it would add a new dimension to 24. She'd be all perky and cute and whatnot, having dating troubles while also running the free world and being cute. Maybe she's dating Jack Bauer but doesn't realise he's a crusading, borderline fascist, torture fanatic?<p>Oh, Sandy - you're always getting into such delightful comical romantic scrapes and that. And being cute.
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"Here's to Bill Brasky!"
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He'd be all like: "No way, I ain't no goddamn cocksucking president. I got this here hardware store to run with my Jew buddy."<p>And then, at the end, he becomes president and shoots all the terrorists. With guns.
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He'd be all like: "Come on, guys, lets get together in the war room and recreate terrorist scenarios... with action figures!"<p>And we'd be all like: "Oh, president Seth Green. You were better when you were Scott Evil."
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She goes: "These terrorists are SO cutting into my shopping time. How am I supposed to choose between Ross and Jack Bauer with all this noise!"<p>And we go: "Oh, president Rachel Green. No one likes you anyway. You are beautiful but self-absorbed and irritating."
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I'm out. I don't know if I can watch the show every week. That actress was so damn annoying and terrible in that role, I could barely stand the few times she showed up on screen. If it were to happen every episode, I would go a little nuts.
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Just what we need, more lame White House shenanigans. <p> And Sandra Palmer would be the worst fucking choice in the history of bad fucking choices. Herc should be deposed from Coax for even suggesting it.
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Ive been hoping each summer of news that 24 would do their first prequel season. This show has become stagnant. If they did a prequel which dealt with the operation Bauer carried out in Kosovo when senator palmer headed an operation to take out Drazen. All the men in the team were killed other than Jack. That would be brutal. AND different. I guess since D. Haysbert is busy with his not so good Unit, it wont happen. Which is a bummer. Needless to say, they have to scrap the whole formula crap. I dont think us fans want a formula, we want suprises, just not at the same time every season.
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God, anything but Sandra Palmer.
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she was one of the most irritating characters ever to grace 24: not just a one-note character but, worse, a shrill, one-note character. 24 needs more than a shot in the arm. It needs a kick in the fucking pants.
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and the terrorist threat was the yellow peril?
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Either that or Kate Warners Wakko sister.
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I gave up on 24 after season 2 so didn't know about all the new presidents. But how can they have Jack Bauer every season being the same age and yet have a new president all the time, surely at least four years would have had to pass between one season and the next. Even if they did a replacement Ford/Johnson president thing once or twice they surely couldn't do it every year!
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... President naked Mandy!
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Kyle Stewart or Kilowag?
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... thinking alike.
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June 22, 2007, 8:13 a.m. CST
OH MANDY, how you came and you gave without taking.....
by thepurplelantern
I think that next season should have a female president, who, unknown to anyone, is a closeted lesbian, who has secret flings with the gun toting, nakedness prone, assasin of joy, Mandy. OH MANDY, how you came and you gave without taking.....
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The Left and the Hollywood community no doubt had high hopes for Geena Davis' "Commander-in-Chief" to serve as a weekly hour long ad for Hillary Clinton. Since the 'conservatism' of "24" has always been overblown, then who knows how this might play out. By showing a female President as 'tough on terrorism', it might boost Hillary with people stupid enough to be influenced by a television show.
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Bauer in space. That could work
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Now that would not work...
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The first time a female president makes a mistake. And people thought there was a Conservitive bias before???? I smell Political Angst ahead.
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Too funny.
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...even shorter viewing time than last season. Sure, I watched the whole thing. But god damn it I didn't WANT to.
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Are the Indy Sack and Jack Sack related?
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It does look much more like a purse, but a really tough purse.
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Damn, I hate her. She's like Wesley Crusher, Scrappy Doo or Jar Jar Binks, only much worse :P
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Oh man, last season was such a joke. And the actress playing the Palmer sis, while cute, was not very good. She did try real hard to hide her ghetto twang.
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"Wayne" Palmer becomes the first transgendered president in history.
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June 22, 2007, 8:50 a.m. CST
last season's 24 was some of the worst television ever
by Dr. Sid Schaefer
seriously. my wife and i watched it every week just to see how bad it could get. and it sure as hell didn't disappoint. forget the new president. how about some new fucking writers!
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Best thing about 24, I think. She just makes me laugh, always screwing up her face and getting all pissy for no good reason. I was very sad that her and the husky fellow from The Sopranos didn't get together on the show. But it was not to be, on account of gas.
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June 22, 2007, 9:02 a.m. CST
Also, some attempt at structure would the help show
by Franklin T Marmoset
I know 24's writers like to make the story up on the fly, but that hasn't been working for the past couple of years. It seems like a real waste of potential to not at least concoct an ending and a few high spots along the way. The biggest problem with seasons five and six, I think, is that they were both such chaotic messes. Both started out well and both just ran out of steam and limped to the finish line.
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Clearly, some attempt at structure would also help my posts.
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Nina's twin sister, Maria.
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when he died? Was it because he was too fat to get out of his chair? He got stuck on the armrests? Or was he in the bathroom?
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Seriously they should have some in between action in which she takes control of the White House! Who in here agrees with me they need to do a full season with her as a major character in some capacity!
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You sure he wasn't stuck in the chair?
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June 22, 2007, 9:31 a.m. CST
An Entire Season of Mandy Naked in The White House
by theeternalhipster
That would something. Dr. Gonzo they used her at the end of Season 4.
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With season 5 I remember the tacked on submarine business you mentioned, which was awful, but the thing that stick in my mind for that year is when I realised I was watching a show about Jack Bauer trying to find a cassette tape. A cassette tape! It was like they ran out story and just kept going, like when the Roadrunner runs out of road and keeps running, although 24 did it far less gracefully.<p>In the last couple of years, it's the lack of planning that's spoiled the show for me, which is a shame because it seems like a relatively easy thing to fix.
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The stand alone episode feel that the past 2 seasons have had. Story arcs started at the beginning of the hour, they actually tell you something will happen in exactly 45 minutes, it does and then wrap it up before teasing the next hour.
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This season was painful! The writing was absurd. The plots were so over the top and unreal that they made comic books seem more realistic. I wanted to punch Chloe in the face every time she wrinkled her expression. The relationship stuff was just too much all around and Kiefer seemed to be there just to pick up his check. Even Powers Boothe (who I love) seemed to recognize that he was involved in a large pile of stink. Glad people like it but I don't get it.
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...The new president on 24 is a traitor, Jack gets tortured, Jack tortures someone, someone in CTU is a mole, there's a silly side story involving an escaped orangutan from the zoo that's quickly forgotten about, and someone close to Jack is killed. That about sums up the next season.
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Way to change it up.<p>Do you think Chloe's baby will be part alien lizard like 'V'?
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calling her potato face were hilarious if a little harsh but may main reason for loving the site were their views on Kim Buaer and her mother.
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Was killed at the end of Season 5. I thought you have got to fucking kidding me . He just fell to his death. A nd this was after the whoel jack as the worlds most wanted man debacle. The best villains were easily from seasons 1-4. Nina Myers, Sherry Palmer, Ira Gaines, Dennis Hopper, Laura Harris(the hottie form Dead like me, that performance in season two as daddy's little rich girl turned jihadist muslim was sensational) and not really Naked Mandy and Charles Logan. If they are going to get a convincing baddie. Then they should hire Rutger Hauer.
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Sandra Bullock would make a good female president on TV if she acts the way she acted in "Crash".
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either that or zombie Eleanor Roosvelt.
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2016? Is Jack's sack going to be a colostomy bag this time?
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The best thing they did was write her off the show! surely you didnt like that whiney bitch did you Herc?
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I don't have anything against Sandra Palmer. However, I find it hard to believe that the American public would vote for yet another Palmer. The first one would be associated with a nuclear detonation on American soil and political weakness in the second half of his administration. The second one would be associated with repeated terrorist attacks. I think the American public by that point would decide to have nothing more to do with the Palmers.
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Kind of cool.
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she would rule with an iron fist
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or Roosevelts?
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If another Palmer is president, then that's not good. It was lame enough having Wayne Palmer suddenly be president, but if the 3rd Palmer gets the job too, come on....
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and have Secretary of Defense Blind Doyle slap her around every week...and have a grown up Behrooooooooz be the main terrorist
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Maybe people would even watch this time!
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24 has gotten tired. Very tired. And I’m a fan. It’s bad when a show is reusing it’s own plot points again and again. The only thing we haven't seen twice is the damn cougar. I was really hoping that after they faked Jack’s death that they would come back with a stand alone story arc outside of CTU and presidential politics. Jack would wander the earth like the Incredible Hulk. Of course, with the current direction of the show they’d end up recycling the plot of “Road House” for an entire season.
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Will have Jack working in the White House as chief of security or something... CTU won't be prominent, although maybe pop up a few times... And the President will be single and milfy and will be both the love interest and boss for Jack. And the season will revolve around an assassination plot by chauvinists... So there you go, no reason to watch, 'cause I have a horrible feeling I am right...
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And that's saying something!!!! How about Paris Hilton for President??? Ratings gold
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i mean we've had 3 straight presidents get attacked and wounded, we've had one ex president assasinated. Its long since gone over the top.
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If the new President is named Sandra Palmer, how about I kill myself? Okay...less reactionary...I'll probably find out what Heroes is like in real time.
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If Sandra Palmer were watching her possibly jihadist husband Wallid on television, and then cries out in excitement "I'm your mofo!"...THEN, I'd watch.
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CTU and Secret Service really really suck at their jobs. Imagine if Reagan, Clinton, and Both Bush's had died in office. That would be the world of 24.
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...unless it is a Zombie David Palmer. Wayne was okay as a Chief of Staff, but as a President, not so much. I don't think anyone they decide to bring on will be able to live up to what Dennis Haysbert brought to the show.
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that's what I want to see. But that would undoubtedly be the end of Chloe - 24 burns through presidents faster than Rosie O'Donnell burns through crazy theories.
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She's tough on traitors.
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Please no one ever suggest Rosie O'Donnell again... Can someone at least suggest a hot lesbian.
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"MOTEHRFUCKER, WHY ARE YOU CRYING? GET YOUR PANTIES OUT OF THE CREASE OF YOUR ASS, AND GO SAVE THIS COUNTRY AGAIN. YOU CRYING FUCKING BITCH OF A MAN! BOOO HOOO HOOOO. EVERYONE YOU LOVE LEAVES YOU? MY ASS! CHLOE IS BY YOUR SIDE, AND SHE'S ALL YOU NEED! Have you seen her prettied up? Seriously, I'd tap that with a mackrel's dick. Back to the point...STOP YOUR CRYING AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE BAUER! THE WORLD HAS NO TIME FOR YOUR COMPLAINING!"
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She'll still be an insane mute, but Heller will do all the speaking for her.
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for a while. He provided some interesting tension. Along with what's his name...Peter Dragonslayer McNichol. They should milk that combo for at least one more season. Put in a female vice for now, but keep Booth as prez. Let Daniels regulate in 08
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bail the President/politics/terrorism altogether and have Jack do some kind of mission outside of LA.
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Season 6 was set in mid-2013, and since they tend to jump ahead roughly a year and half on average between seasons, Season 7 would probably be set no earlier than 2015. Jack can track down the nortorious temporal terrorist known as Marty McFly.
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Wonder why I don't remember any of their names? Because 24 isn't a very memorable show. It's the highest rated piece of crap on TV. And there's a whole lot crap on right now.
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or maybe Tammy Lynn Michaels?
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Even if it wasn't stupid for every member of the Palmer family to be president I just cannot stand her character.
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Sandra cannot be president, too many skeletons in the closet. Karen could have been, but after last season not very likely - again, skeletons in the closet. Even if you are not LEGALLY responsible, having let go of the guy who nukes US pretty much means no presidency for you.<p><p> Of course, most likely it will be a new character - but even then, HAVING a new president and having that president be a significant character in the story are two different things, maybe the new president is just something that will be mentioned or shown in passing.<p><p>I think Boothe is still the best acting president 24 ever had. Right or wrong, he is the only one who was ever strong AND yet able to admit when he is wrong and actually think about things instead of pushing ideology or personal agenda. He is also the only one who was able to show any personal growth through the series.
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The President will be Jack's mom. Search your feelings, peeps. You will know it to be true. She will destroy 24.
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Also, Jack will be able to fly.
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Did you even WATCH the show? Wait, if you didn't, good for you, because it sucked. But it any resemblance between Geena Davis's character and Hillary Clinton begins and ends with gender.
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...then I will be one happy camper. It's a man-crush. Deal with it, homos.
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Actually, I'm amazed he hasn't turned up on this show.
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that keeps pulling the same shit over and over. If it doesn't cut out the repetitive and abusive behavior, it's gonna get tossed into the slammer and never be heard from again.<br><br>The only acceptable female President Palmer would have been Sherry, but she's pushing daisies.
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nothing was worse than day 6. I think so and, what is more, all of my 7000 MySpace friends agree.
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Glenn Close. She kicked all sorts of ass in the shield. SHe has played the president on Air Force One.
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the only reason I wathced, that and McNicholl. The rest was rubbish.
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and Jack Bauer is the only person who can stop him?
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Seriously, 24 has been going downhill since season 3. 5 was god-awful, 6 didn't start any better. They got 2 great seasons out of the show, a so-so 3rd season, a mediocre 4th, and 5 and 6 were complete and utter formulaic bull. Kill it off and make the movie already.
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as the new president on 24. To re-invigorate the show they should hire the writers of The shield, the Wire and the Unit. That would shake things up alot.
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I should note that the actor who played Sylar, Zachary Quinto, played one of the CTU techies in Season 3. Not sure he should be president though, too annoying. I would kinda like to see Powers Booth stick around as president. His character became very interesting as the season ran along. I definitely think the American people would vote for stability above everything else at this point. As BLWiseass pointed out, in the time span of the show, they have had at least 3 presidential assassination attempts that were nearly or were successful. You have two ex-president assassinated. Assuming Wayne Palmer didn't make it, of the last 6 presidents on the, only Daniels, Hal Gardner, and the acting president after Mandy's assassination attempt on David, are still alive (presumably for the latter two) at the end of Season 6. If the fact that it is a woman isn't set in stone (in which case I agree, it will be someone we don't know yet), I would say that former Defense Secretary Heller will be in the White House.
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I meant to say the last 7 presidents: David Palmer, the acting president after Mandy's assassination attempt, John Keeler, Charles Logan, Hal Gardner, Wayne Palmer, and Noah Daniels
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Seriuously, having two Bush's, two Adams's, Two Roosevelts (technically distant related) and the Possibility of 2 Clinton's already frightens me too much about having power concentrated in the hands of small interest groups. Please 24, please don't encourage anyone else. We aren't a monarchy, dynasties suck be them sports, or politics. Don't encourage anyone else. Oh wait, I forgot, these are the people who think torture works in real life. I think 24 has screwed us all!
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Penny Gerald Johnson is cancer to good television. She ruins every show she is in! She is the Michael Ironsides of the 2000's.
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I’ll be the first to say it: “President Chloe.” Can you imagine her sulking at the desk (with a picture of Edgar on it) in the Oval Office? And how wonderfully anti-social she would be on conference calls with international diplomats? “I don’t like his attitude… FULL NUCLEAR STRIKE!”
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You heard it hear first.
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I voted for Kodos.
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This stinks. thought they were going to dump the old patterns of the show.
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she has gravitas having already played a senator and a Queen. plus she could use all of costumes from Episode 1! especially the clown one.
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I'd watch that.
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Sure, they were pardoned for their illegal actions at the end of Day 6, but the deal was that they retire in peace. With her illegal track record, she could not land the presidency.
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Wayne Palmer was witness to a murder and covered it up. If he can be President, then damn sure Karen Hayes can be as well.
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You know you make an extremely valid point. Actually, the fact she did something illegal makes her that much more a candidate for the office. I completely switch my argument. One can only be president (and not just on 24) if they have a shady past.
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or Bauer's daughter, is she wears a white tanktop the entire season.
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and the cougar for VP! Hilarity ensues
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gotta be
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Was the only good thing about the whole season. Maybe the Die Hard kill too, but that end was awesome. The series should've just finished there, Jack killing himself would've been perfect. Especially after all he has gone through. But no, instead we'll have some muslims blowing up shit and a mole in CTU.
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The first few episodes of the season are good. It's because they've had a summer to plan and run through ideas, but then things get obviously sluggish, meandering, and outlandish. This is because they have no idea what they're doing; they're making things up as they go along, and the producers have ADMITTED to this. They need to have a full plan in order, rather than a few shocking premiere episodes, so attention can be maintained. I know this is just my opinion here, but I didn't even watch this final season through to the end I stopped caring so much. I think 24 would be a lot more interesting, had they done a different genre each season. Keep Keifer, maybe have it be the same character, but the first year is a drama, the second season, is the character in a comedy, etc. That idea may have become tired as well, but I think it'd be better than basically waching the same thing every year, and with this show going to go into 8 seasons, that's really kind of ridiculous...
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I admit that I did watch the last episode, to just see how things wrapped up, and the stuff with Jack yelling at Audrey's dad was more enjoyable than anything else.
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On the heels of the super-successful Galactus Wears Purple Pants (visit us on myspace and Facebook group), I vote for the giant purple-pants wearing Galactus as the 24 president. "I will consume your world, Agent Bauer. Doot-Doot-doot-dededededede"
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I'd salute her any time.
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the first season was great, everything else was a joke. just put it out of it's misery.
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Okay. That was pretty unrewarding. Kind of like the past season of 24.
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Feel the hate.
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...how about Greg the Bunny? That way, we can watch him exclaim Scatchamagowza! to unfolding events. But it would only work if Count Blah was VP, and Tardy Turtle was running CTU.
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is summed up by the phrase "...what happened in Denver." Suspenseful thrillers take place in places like New York, Berlin and Jakarta. Family reunions take place in Denver. And Jack already killed his whole family.
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is like No. 2 on The Prisoner, only instead of changing him/her every episode, they do it every season. "BY HOOK OR BY CROOK, WE WILL!!!"
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The execs must have wanted Wayne to be better because surely they didn't start season 6 expecting season 7 to be set FOUR YEARS LATER. The only 24 president to ever serve a full term is David Palmer. Wayne is vegetating in the same nursing home as Pres. Keeler, if either of them are still alive. As for the woman president, I'm watching you, Joe Surnow, you right-wing nutjob -- don't be force-feeding us your personal Hillary Clinton nightmare.
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that.
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Sigourney Weaver would be awesome.
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...and new directors<br><br>...and a new cast<br><br>...etc.<br><br...etc.<br><br>...etc.
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"Daddy, the mean terrorist people are saying they'll do stuff and I said 'Bring it on!!' and it didn't work and the VP cougar is going to bite me! Help!!" Then Kim detonates a nuke. Not because she had to or was forced to or wanted to, she was just trying to find a snack. Kim Bauer with her ditzy finger on the button. That would be fucking gold.
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The word is that they want a known movie actress to be the President. The top rumored name is Susan Sarandon, but her schedule might not work out since she's working on Speed Racer. Helen Mirren is another actress they are pursuing.
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Wait: don't just dismiss the idea. A zero gravity CTU, Chloe wears a catheter bag, the Jack Sack has to be tethered, and everybody named Palmer is a mole. A space mole. Oh, and he's trying to close the pod bay doors in the season opener. Also, a wookie with a heart of gold.
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hot damn that would rock
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Do Presidents serve at least one full term on this fucking show? If so, does this mean 24 takes sometime in the year 2020?
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I'm Just Saying
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Denny Crane!!!
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She's awesome! Go Mandy!
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The "BAMF" Presidential bloodline continues!
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I wish the woman who played Granny on the Beverly Hillbillies was still alive. She could have been 24's new president. There could have been, like, goats in the oval office, and possums, and a moonshine still. And when Jack Bauer called up to tell her about whatever crisis was going on, she could have said things like "wheee doggies, that's a tough one" and taken a swig from her jug full of "Rhumatize medicine." And she'd be speaking to Jack on an old timey rotary phone because a constant comic subplot would be that she didn't understand what cell phones are. Oh, if only Granny were still alive. If only.
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He should have been brought in years ago as a CTU head.
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ALL THREE OF US! WE WANT RIPLEY!!!<br><br> WEAVER 2008!!! DO IT!!!<br><br> Imagine a scenario where the Russians invade New York and they plan to blow up the Statue of Liberty, and Sig addresses the nation, but directs a warning to the invaders and Mother Russia...<br><br> "Get away from her YOU BITCH!" <br><br> Nah, that would be too awesome. Kief wouldn't allow it. It'd de-badass Bauer. And after last season, he's been de-badassed enough.
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I'd heard long ago that it would be Karen Hayes, a pretty obvious choice if that's the direction they decided upon.
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Take the whole "van shows up with a person Jack doesn't expect" and make that the prequel. It's Tony in the van and he's part of top secret government agency that performs the dirtiest of the dirty tasks to keep the country safe. The chance of dieing on a mission is greater than the chances for coming back alive so they only take people who have no family connections. Jack has lost Audrey and is estranged from Rena Sofer and Josh for political reasons (read on for the explanation). What about Kim you say? She's the bad guy. Sort of. She's been brainwashed by an American terror cell. The country that her father loves so much has given him nothing in return for everything he has done for it. The season takes place in D.C. and has no CTU. Kim is going to assassinate President Rena Sofer (who has had to distance herself from the Bauer family due to the Devane curse reasoning). The terrorists know that Jack is the only one who has kept the country safe for the past years, so their insurance policy is Kim. They think he won't kill Kim to stop the attack. The season ends with Jack fatally shooting a person he believes is Kim (the face is never shown in the final episode) in the act of killing President Gorgeous Eyes. The final line of the season comes from off screen behind Jack, who has fallen to his knees. "Killing your own daughter. Not even I could do that," delivered by Stephen Saunders. Screen cuts to black and a single gunshot is heard. It's got a double cliffhanger. It's got Tony back. And Mandy would pop up every couple episodes as a mercenary hired by the terrorist cell. Then bring on the 24 prequel movie and Season 8: Zombie Curtis Loose in Chicago.
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In my reboot, Jack has meat vision. Because heat vision is passe.
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Karen Hayes and Her Hubby Bill Buchanan, went through very very bad patch in their Marriage. Hayse and Buchanan were given forced Retirement and full presidential pardon. Bringing her back and making her president, though a good a idea wnat not make sense to the audience. I know, I know. nothing makes sense on this show. Characters are either killed or disappeared. Reid Pollack, Wayne Palmer are just two characters who were there and then vanished. My money is on glenn close.
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2030 by now. Especially if there some two term prez in there. How old is Jack? Mid-sixties maybe?
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They don't need another new president!! !They just need new storylines... and they don't have to involve any presidency (as it didn't for series 1).
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And it would drip with desperation. Weaver could work, and I think would be fun, but Hayes would also make sense. And yes, maybe don't involve the presidency for once, and I think maybe doing a season that took place BEFORE season one would be a lot of fun and potentially interesting, but I doubt the majority of the audience would be interested in that.
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Have Jack gassed and kidnapped, only to awaken in a mysterious village, where somebody named No. 2 wants information. Yep, let's just remake THE PRISONER over the course of a season of 24. Tell me that wouldn't be cool. Maybe in the end No.2 would turn out to be the President. Or something. THINK ABOUT IT.
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MERYL STREEP. Ahh, she'd never do it. Well, she did do "She-Devil" so who knows...
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is how two writers - David Fury and Manny Coto - who have written some of the best genre tv around could be so heavily involved in taking one of the most groundbreaking action shows and running it into the ground with silly storylines.
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There is nowhere for the show to go. There is no threat devestating enough except maybe gelatinous cannibal aliens or maybe those chick stealing Sasquatch aliens from Mikes Hard Lemonade ads. <p> Last season sucked so fucking bad It was humorous. Everyone in Jacks family except his mother was evil. <p> Jesus give me a fucking break. <p> Put Jack in the Village until the end. <p> Nothing else can redeem that train wreck 24 has become. <p> On a high note his daughetr wasn't kidnapped again.
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Last seaon ended so anticlimatically, mark me down as 'meh' for the next day. It's not going to be different: Chloe will still be as annoying as dog shit on your sneakers, Jack will still go off protocol and torture some semi-bad guy to get information, and after the way Poppa Bauer was left to die on the rig's boat dock, next to the inflatable dinghy that brought him (duh!) I wouldn't be at all surprised to see his ugly face pop up next time too. Add in Bill Buchanan and Karen Hayes as private security consultants and it looks like we've got us a series. Of course, what they should do is get Jack working for the Russians or Chinese in retaliation for the shitty way the US has treated him after he's saved their asses countless times. Oh, and Ricky Schroeder will be back, wearing an eye-patch and boffing Nadia. Milo will make a guest appearance in the ashtray.
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I watched nearly an entire season of HEROES online, just so I could watch this crap of a season live on network. It will be the reverse next year.
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That would be awesome...
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It's showtime!
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I cannot stand the CTU BS anymore and the "let's bring in Jack' 'cuz he's goin' rouge shite again will destroy this for me. When are they gonna fuckin' learn and see that this is the only guy that gets the job done and get everyone else the fuck out of his way, writers? Follow him to eat, pee, take a moment and reflect, but if you really want 24 to be more believable to watch with a far reduced suspension of disbelief and my finger off the TiVo advance button just to get to the only parts of the story that matter stick with Jack. Far less expensive budget too.
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you heard it here first
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This won't work they tried a female prez and failed.
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focusing more on the Presidental stuff... It is a very lame reboot... Instead of Jack talking to the President via phone, he will be involved directly and CTU will make cameo apperances... They are trying to take the half of the show that always dragged it down, and making it the focus... <p> Man I wish they had just had the balls to set a season in London or Dublin or anywhere far away from the US, but where they still speak English, viewers aren't sitting through subtitles, not even for Jack Bauer... Open the season with Jack working for the US embassy in London, totally divorced from his former career, something quiet behind a desk. A withdrawn man who nobody he works directly with suspects has such a violent past.<p> The opening 4 episodes of the season establish him and we see the planning of a terrorist take-over of the embassy, which happens with Gruberesque precision. A couple of people try to be heros and die. Jack keeps his head down and is one of the subserviant sheep. He is broken. The 4 episodes develop a new guy who acts in a Die Hard like way (trust me 24 has ripped it off so many times, one more won't harm) being a fly in the ointment. The show really suggest that this guy is our new hero and Jack is being phased out. OK, only idiots are going to fall for that but hey... The end of the four parter shows our new hero caught and about to be executed when bam, in a classic 24 moment the old Bauer returns, saves guy and kills a few toerrorists.<p> This should set us up nicely for the next 4 episodes which should still revolve purely around the whole hostage situation. There you go 8 episodes, 1/3rd of the season done and nothing but a pure adventure arc, no politics, and all done with new characters, except for Jack. Also this can mainly be done on set with American actors in LA anyway...<p> The remaining 2/3rds of the season should involve Jack in the UK, and mainly be filmed there. East coast to London is 8 hour flight (maybe less on a military plane) as well so you can even legitimately drop in a Buchannon or Agt. Pierce or somebody towards the end if you want...<p> They could also have fun with some of the differnces in terms of political process and viewpoints in the UK, as opposed to the US. You can also pull from a different actor pool for the British characters, while still having enough Americans to not scare off the American audience. Imagine someone like Derek Jacobi or Ian McKellan being an upright lord of the realm who is really the bad guy pulling the strings... That would be gravitas right there... <p> Yeah it is more expensive (although manageable) and more of a risk, but anything less than a spectacular season 7 and surely it will get canceled, another retread won't work, it needs to re-excite fans and have something bigger and different to appeal to new viewers...
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... the "Prisoner" remake with Jack as Number Six. Given number of mind-fucks in the original, you can always bring in all sorts of old characters, dead or alive, as guest stars.
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Wayne Palmer was already unbeliveable as president, his little sister would be even worse. If it's any character we already know, it would be Bill's wife (Bill would be first lady). But of course I'm rooting for mandy.
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Not anymore you're not. Oh, Snap!
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It's not that hard to spell people, seriously. It's bad enough I gotta put up with that in WoW, for the love of god don't bring it here.
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I loved -- past tense 24 -- for the cool idea and cool show it once was. But like a lot of people, I've all but lost interest over the last 2 years. And this past year was truly God awful. Seriously, if you guys at 24 even bother to skim things like these Talkbacks to guage reactions, even out of pure interest, it should be glaringly OBVIOUS how much you've lost your way and killed the momentum this thing once had.<p>Case in point this rumor. Which hopefully is JUST a rumor. I mean...why? Why the fuck do we need yet ANOTHER new President? For fuck's sake, do you guys have any idea how over the top you've become with just disposing of Presidents at the drop of a hat -- you know, those guys elected for FOUR YEAR TERMS -- and yet you go through them like they only have to serve the same time as Paris Hilton. Not to mention at this point...going by 24's continuity...the U.S. would pretty much be in SHAMBLES and people would have taken to the streets in political riots or social unrest over all the shit you've had Presidents doing on the show, simply so you can continually play out your "But see? The government is bad all the way to the top" car -- which frankly has also now become TOTALLY CLICHED AND BORING AS SHIT.<p>For crying out loud, what was the worst that Powers Booth did last year? What, he pulled a Clinton and slept with the hot blonde? By the end of the year that got swept under the carpet. So fine, just say younger Palmer could never return to office due to perpetual health issues and let Powers Booth be President for a few seasons. For fuck's sake, he's good in the role, looks Presidential, and you'd have a good actor in place. But at the very least ESTABLISH SOME BASE CONTINUITY THAT IMPLIES A TIMELINE THAT MAKES SENSE.<P>I swear, the truy sad thing about 24 is that is should be almost IMPOSSIBLE to fuck up as a show given the format. It's a gimmick show, a 24 hour time frame with each show equalling an hour. What this show should be like are the old Cliffhanger serials of the 30s and 40s -- you know, that kick ass things that inspired RAIDERS -- where the whole POINT was to simply created a simple story, a driving motivation, and then each "episode" just have the shit hit the fan from all directions.<p>How you 24 writers sit can't sit in a room in the off season and toss darts at the wall, perpetually trying to top each other out of sheer fun to create 24 episodes that are focused, but yet balls out action and fun to keep people coming back is beyond me. Maybe the change that should be done at 24 isn't a "location" change (though that really is needed at this point), but instead the change that's needed is an ALL-NEW WRITING STAFF since last season clearly showed you guys were just hacking it out for a paycheck. And this year, if it smells that way by about week 3 or 4, you're going to see DROVES of fans finally abandon the show and realize its over.<p>For crying out loud, I'm a professional writer...there are others here as well...as well as others here who'd love to be in the business, who might have studied film or are trying to get things moving...and I GUARANTEE that the brain trust of AICN geeks that hang out here could put together the outline for an INFINITELY better season of 24 that you guys did last year in just one weekend of working these boards.<p>SO GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER, WILL YA? OR MOVE OUT OF THE WAY FOR PEOPLE WHO DO GIVE A DAMN.
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just give us a simple season with only Bauer on a mission.
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A female president?? Is this a subliminal campaign for hillary from the producers?? The show is getting old.
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I nominate Kate Warner for President of these United States
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I'll tell you what. America gets nuked in the first five minutes of the show because whiny liberal pinko-commie lesbo Rosie would spend all her time explaining why terrorists are good people at heart and why she-males like herself need to be able to adopt kids. I.E. because bossing around her meek little girlfriend just isn't enough anymore.
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Reduce the regular cast to Jack, his boss (whether that's the president or whoever), and Chloe. Just like Steve Austin, Oscar Goldman, and Rudy Wells. This format would force Jack to be in the whole hour, every hour. Lee Majors wants Keifer to get off his ass.
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Hilarity, and salt licks, ensue.
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In New Zealand the Polynesian natives, Maori, have an oral history of red bearded white men who were already there before they arrived. The maori landed on NZ 800 to 1000 years ago. We never got taught this in school, but among maori it is common knowledge which they accept as truth. Crazy eh?
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...yeah, I was reading that and was thinking about your parallels, then I suddenly started to wonder if you were breaking laws just by writing those things!
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"Seriously, I'd tap that with a mackrel's dick. Back to the point..." Thanks. Now I have to clean my drink off my desk, from the spit-take I did, reading that. That was fuckin' hilarious.<p> Just don't do it again. I hate cleaning my desk.
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Shatner droppkicking Islamic fascists, making out with Chloe then winks at the camera and says- "Denny Crane"!!!!!! Or He can be president TJ Hooker!!!! Hero Cop makes it to the White House!!!! Catches Slavic Arms dealers by jumping on the hoods of their cars and forcing them to surrender at the butt of his 357 Magnum. All the while doing a conference call to his cabinet. Don't fuck with president Shatner!!!!!!
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can we have just one season where the president just isn't in the picture? the president this season should be a marginal figure at best. the focus should be on Jack & something smaller scale, not some big thing that involves the white house.<br><br>and i'm just buying a female president in the 24 verse, especially after all of the terrorist nuke crap that happened in season 6. wayne palmer as prez was enough of a stretch. sandra palmer as prez and i am never watching this show again.
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I agree with others here who don't want to see another "24" president. It's a conceit I was willing to go along with for a while, but I want the writers and producers go in different direction: Jack re-enlists in Black Ops (due to the fact he doesn't have anything to live for anymore) and draws the ire of the Saudi Arabian royal family. The story could be Jack planting himself in the opium trade out of Afghanistan (which grows 93% of the world's supply in real life -- look it up), and he thinks he's been hired to help shut it down. But drug politics get in the way, Jack puts his own team together to find out what's really going on, and when he does... he discovers the profits are going to the Saudi royal family. Are they funding terrorism with it? Or are they just disgustingly corrupt? The CTU connection is thus maintained, interesting new characters are introduced, and Jack finds a new purpose in life as he struggles to protect newly introduced opium farmers and their children (should he? shouldn't he?). And the new President never gets directly involved in Jack's story.<p> Phew! All right, I'll shut up now.
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I agree with others here who don't want to see another "24" president. It's a conceit I was willing to go along with for a while, but I want the writers and producers go in different direction: Jack re-enlists in Black Ops (due to the fact he doesn't have anything to live for anymore) and draws the ire of the Saudi Arabian royal family. The story could be Jack planting himself in the opium trade out of Afghanistan (which grows 93% of the world's supply in real life -- look it up), and he thinks he's been hired to help shut it down. But drug politics get in the way, Jack puts his own team together to find out what's really going on, and when he does... he discovers the profits are going to the Saudi royal family. Are they funding terrorism with it? Or are they just disgustingly corrupt? The CTU connection is thus maintained, interesting new characters are introduced, and Jack finds a new purpose in life as he struggles to protect newly introduced opium farmers and their children (should he? shouldn't he?). And the new President never gets directly involved in Jack's story.<p> Phew! All right, I'll shut up now.
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Damn double post!
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We need a cougar in the White House!
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Thompson's trophy wife Jeri Kehn has bigger boobs, but the winner in the presidential candidate trophy wife derby has to be Dennis Kucinich, who married UK-born Elizabeth Harper, 31 years his junior, but much taller than Dennis and red-headed. Elizabeth exudes sweet where Jeri looks kind of hardened.
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that Cheng dude is the new president.
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George Clinton and VP will be the Parliament Funkadelic. Jack Bauer only has 24 hours before da bomb is dropped on some undisclosed Muslim country the bootys of countless innocent Muslim civilians will be tragically loosened. Is that what we want, to turn millions of decent, reserved Muslims into free-spirited, dance-crazed party people? Jack Bauer says "No!!!"
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... if they HAVE to have a female president.
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The first MILF-in-Chief.
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as the Commander-in-Chief. It's really the only logical place for them to go after last season.
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Alfre Woodard CCH pounder Patricia Wittig(the best thing about Season one Prison Break) Patricia Richardson(Home Improvement and The West Wing) Laura Innes Lynda Carter Amanda Tapping Kristine Sutherland Kathleen Turner Sigourney Weaver Vanessa Redgrave Joely Richardson Liam Neesons Wife Kate winslet Frances Farmer Kathy bates Kathy Baker and that is all I can remember
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