June 21, 2007, 7:55 a.m. CST
June 21, 2007, 7:57 a.m. CST
Nobody dies! Which is what traditionally happens in comic books. Only movies kill off characters as fast as they can.
June 21, 2007, 7:58 a.m. CST
June 21, 2007, 8:04 a.m. CST
And we know for sure they ain't gonna get back up. Issac...? Aaaaaaand...?
June 21, 2007, 8:05 a.m. CST
that finds the parents of the Heroes story more appealing than the 'we're all related' crap acting main characters?
June 21, 2007, 8:07 a.m. CST
by just pillow talk
but since Simone's dad (biological or not, he may have 'adopted' her) had powers (unknown dreamlike powers?), one would think she had powers. Perhaps she is still alive, but then, wasn't she "cleaned up" by Linderman's group? Does that mean the body was taken to the lab for analysis?
June 21, 2007, 8:19 a.m. CST
by d a v 3 y
...and Lindermans power is? =p
June 21, 2007, 8:23 a.m. CST
An open mind! HAW HAW!
June 21, 2007, 8:24 a.m. CST
...they aren't dead. That goes double for the Marvel Universe.
June 21, 2007, 8:26 a.m. CST
So, how's that Talkback editing feature coming along, AICN?
June 21, 2007, 8:37 a.m. CST
by just pillow talk
I would think Linderman wouldn't have healed her since she was working against the bomb in her own way. But perhaps they wanted to test a live subject. Unless of course he thought he could turn her to his side...
June 21, 2007, 8:55 a.m. CST
Sure it could be flashbacks, or chameleonic characters impersonating them or whatever. Of course you must remember you've got three living (definite) characters who can travel through time. Peter (who can survive even the explosion), Syler (who skipped out down the sewers), and Hiro who, presumedly, won't be spending the entire season as an extra on the set of RAN.
June 21, 2007, 9 a.m. CST
OK Brain fart. I don't know why I thought Syler could time travel, but there's still Peter and Hiro. Or maybe Season One was all just a dream and Isaac was just in the shower the whole time...
June 21, 2007, 9:02 a.m. CST
June 21, 2007, 9:14 a.m. CST
Sorry to say it, but one moment he is acting all badass, the next he gets punked by a two-bit mutant.
June 21, 2007, 9:15 a.m. CST
I don't know back from the dead seems like a bad comic book cliche, however with two time travlers...and crimison, I don't know if sylar can time travel but he can definatly override hiro time freeze abilities...and flashbacks that might explain the whole "dead coming back" also dreams. I'm still not sold on the Heros:Origins thing. I might be more willing to buy it if they did some kind of wrap around with the current incarnation, with Hiro or someone learning this stuff as we are.
June 21, 2007, 9:16 a.m. CST
thougth like I did that Heros would be facing a zombie threat, how cool would that be, have we ever seen zombies on network TV?
June 21, 2007, 9:26 a.m. CST
I wonder how they'll be ripping off Lost this season? Tim, read a fuckin' comic book already. Enough is enough.<p> Great show,(or potential thereof, anyway) but that finale still has me bitter.
June 21, 2007, 9:36 a.m. CST
Where the heroes are fighting hordes of zombies. I guess they wouldn't do anything that cool.
June 21, 2007, 9:37 a.m. CST
Digging real deep into SMALLVILLE'S secrets now. Now you can make really cool episodes and pretend like they never happened and advance the story 0 steps. Or this is all about the extra episodes and the interaction w/the cast during last season. PLEASE DON'T BE LIKE SMALLVILLE!!!
June 21, 2007, 9:43 a.m. CST
Yeah, how much longer til Cap comes back? I'm tired of waiting.
June 21, 2007, 10:03 a.m. CST
by uss cygnus
Dammit! I need BRAINS, Johnnycakes!
June 21, 2007, 10:04 a.m. CST
Ok, that is fine and all, but where the hell is Christopher Eccleston? He was the best one of the bunch...I know he is making "The Dark is Rising", but come on, he can do a 7 day shoot for this...
June 21, 2007, 10:28 a.m. CST
by I Hope You Die
Okay, Ali Larter is terrible, and every minute Christopher Eccleston was on screen was torturous. And the writing was fine up until the end. But stories that start with foreshadowing and destiny and some sort of "secret" that has to be unraveled are never satisfying. It's a crap idea that's unfortunately very popular at the moment. Hopefully there'll be less of that in season 2.
June 21, 2007, 10:29 a.m. CST
by Maximus Prime
Stop talking bout a good show and talk about a great show..the topic is called 'I'm Sick!! Of Lying!!' and it has a few thousand posts...have a look and learn why heroes will never be as good as lost
June 21, 2007, 10:31 a.m. CST
WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU DOING FLYING IN THE WRONG PLACE, PILOT OF THAT OCEANIC FLIGHT!
June 21, 2007, 10:44 a.m. CST
by Cotton McKnight
That chinese guy always looks like he is going to the bathroom when he goes back in time.
June 21, 2007, 10:58 a.m. CST
his brain = best primetime character death in the last 20 years...
June 21, 2007, 11:05 a.m. CST
If they get rid of Mohinder i REALLY feel that heroes would lose that intangible quality that makes it such a well-written, finely-acted television program.
June 21, 2007, 11:18 a.m. CST
. . . since Giligan's Island. Twenty-two/three episodes to get to that? Didn't they see the script and scratch their collective heads?? Much to atone for.
June 21, 2007, 11:28 a.m. CST
no surprises here..
June 21, 2007, 11:28 a.m. CST
June 21, 2007, 11:31 a.m. CST
by Darth Bauer
June 21, 2007, 11:57 a.m. CST
Because, presumably, the real Cap is stashed away somewhere waiting to be freed from his Skrull prison.
June 21, 2007, 11:59 a.m. CST
Hiro can travel through TIME? Maybe to a point where none of those characters died yet? Call me crazy.... All I know is they better up the ante for season 2. Season 1 finale was AWFUL. All that buildup for such a lame conclusion. Tim Kring, READ A COMIC BOOK.
June 21, 2007, 12:11 p.m. CST
... they weren't handling the time thing very well. Hiro can travel to any time and place, and yet he never seemed to fix anything. Once something bad happened it was like "oh well I can't change that now." Why not just jump back 12 seconds and redo it? And with two Hiro's instead of one. I don't think they understand how they should be using Hiro.
June 21, 2007, 12:15 p.m. CST
And no, I'm not a rocket scientist.
June 21, 2007, 12:38 p.m. CST
flight. Alright! Everybody loves T.V. crossovers.
June 21, 2007, 12:39 p.m. CST
"Awesome" can do any damn thing he pleases. But the most likely answer is Hiro time traveling.
June 21, 2007, 12:44 p.m. CST
Everyone involved should be ashamed.
June 21, 2007, 12:45 p.m. CST
it's not impossible that if he does somethig in the past, the present will turn out slightly different.
June 21, 2007, 1 p.m. CST
by Read and Shut Up
...we'll see what they have to say. The finale was universally panned, and rightfully so.
June 21, 2007, 1:02 p.m. CST
In retrospect, one of the problems I have with Heroes is they simply don't have enough in the way of villains. Sylar is a great character, in my opinion. They took time, they built him up slowly. The problem with Sylar is he is too powerful, and he seems impossible to kill. The guy should be dead a few times over by now. The first time he shouldv'e been killed, you let it pass. The second, you say "well, okay". By the third time, it starts to get ridiculous. Sylar starts to become like a slasher movie monster: he just can't be killed. It destroys any suspense. He is an interesting character, a well-drawn sociopath, but I think that they over-used him. The Heroes need more conflict and opposition---they need more Villains.******Linderman was the closest thing to an answer to this problem. The character's build-up was pretty good, and the reveal of Linderman cooking in his casino's kitchen was subtle, nicely done. Then...Linderman basically went nowhere. He convinced Peter Petrelli to work for him, kidnapped Micah, went to New York, and gotten killed rather easily and quickly, defending himself in a rather amateurish way. This was the legendary Linderman, who is supposedly always surrounded by bodyguards, and he went out with a wimper, not a bang. At least Nikki/Jessica and her husband should have had to fight their way through a small army to get to Linderman. In any case, the legendary Linderman went out, as another person said, like a punk. A real waste of a character and of acting talent. Linderman probably should have escaped to continue developing as a villain for Season 2. He had hardly got started on the show.******Of course, Mr. Bennett was a great, great villain--until he wasn't. Turns out Bennett is just a guy protecting his family. Kind of a shame, because he was scary great as a villian early in the Season. I don't object to humanizing villians, but when you do so to the point of making them Heroes, it kind of takes the bite out of it. I would like to see a more clearly defined "Organization" of some sort, some quasi-governmental shadow agency that views "Heroes" as threats and simply hunts them down and captures them for incarceration and study. This is simply a logical, if nefarious response. And, I would like to see characters clearly devoted to that mission, as Bennett seemed to be. Perhaps he will return to the fold, now that Eric Robert's character has thought his last thought and met his maker. Anyway, I hope that there are several villians and/or groups, clearer definitions of who is who, what they are doing, and why. Less mystery and more conflict, sharply drawn.***** I agree with the previous person who hopes that the writers and producers take their time and carefully map out the upcoming Season (and think even further), so that the stories and arcs are clearer, sharper, more logical, and of course more entertaining. I like the show immensely. They have gotten off to a great start, and I would hate to see a sophmore slump. I have confidence that Kring and Company can step up and make the upcoming Season some exceptional entertainment.******
June 21, 2007, 1:21 p.m. CST
Smallville's season finale kicked Heroes' season finale's ass all kinds of ways. You know it to be true.
June 21, 2007, 1:24 p.m. CST
Overrun with dead people? Come on, the only one on that list for whom we actually saw a dead body was Isaac. Both Parkman and DL were injured but not dead. I highly doubt either Nathan or Peter bit it. And they practically screamed that Sylar was still alive with the shot of the cockroach. Not to mention that as mentioned by Tobias they could simply be promoting the DVD. Or we'll see Isaac in a flashback. This "news" was hardly worth a topic.
June 21, 2007, 1:32 p.m. CST
It must happen!!!!!
June 21, 2007, 1:33 p.m. CST
always eat their brains. Zach for Spock, the movement starts here!!!!!
June 21, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST
How can Peter die? He has Claire's ability. Unless by "exploding" he really does explode. I thought of it more like a shockwave. Ted seemed to be ok after he had a meltdown. <p> Smallville's finale kicked ass? It hasn't done that in ages. So Bizarro Clark can fly but he can't? LAME. You would think by now Clark would get a lead suit, go all over Kansas picking up all the Kryptonite and stash it in the arctic. <p> Now LOST really turned it around in its finale. Hey Tim, Call Damon.
June 21, 2007, 1:51 p.m. CST
June 21, 2007, 1:56 p.m. CST
by Papa Smurf
I doubt its for dvd promotion, its too early for that. Just wait and see i suppose really.
June 21, 2007, 2:53 p.m. CST
Actually, I think it's the worst ending ever.
June 21, 2007, 3 p.m. CST
by Uncle Stan
Sophisticated television. Evolved humor.
June 21, 2007, 3:30 p.m. CST
by slappy jones
the whole season lead to that? peter bs sylar..all the build up and what...a fuckingparkingmeter swung by someone other than the main two combatants and a few punches...absolutely awful.....this show is absolutely terrible. But I thank them for ending it with that horrible horrible end as it broke the spell the show had over me and i will no longer watch it. I had never been so hooked and spellbound by such a badly written and acted show. But for some reason I came back each week but after that season finale they can go fuck themsleves. Awful program of which I am now free!!
June 21, 2007, 3:31 p.m. CST
by Big Dumb Ape
Oh come on, the best SEASON finale of TV ever has to be DALLAS and "Who Shot JR?" simply because it not only was a national phenomenon, but pushed the show over the top into the international realm. People around the world watched that thing and CBS had to go to unprecedented security lengths to protect the master tape for the episode revealing "who" did it. Now THAT'S when you know you've got your audience in the palm of your hands.<p>Best SERIES finale? Unfortunately from classics like MASH or CHEERS and most certainly SIENFELD there's a long list of shows that totally dropped the ball and blew it on their final fadeout by getting too heavy handed or too pompously self-congratulatory or self-grandizing and thus ruined the moment. But for "Best" (at least that I can think of offhand) I'd go with NEWHART and Bob going to sleep in his Vermont Inn, only to awaken with a start in bed next to Suzanne Pleshett and thus be right back in the old BOB NEWHART SHOW. That was dead on perfect and perfectly played to the character, the actor, the audiences familiarity with him -- that was a finale that nailed it.<p>The HEROES season 1 finale? Man, that was the total OPPOSITE and was a TOTAL letdown. I'm sorry, but they really blew that one. With each passing minute I kept thinking "Something big is going to happen here, there's got to be some major twist coming up. They did such a good job setting their chess pieces up that there MUST be a big pay-off here"...and then nothing happened. It was over in the blink of an eye, and what did happen was so cookie cutter obvious that I couldn't believe it. Sylar gets NON-killed yet again (why these guys COMBINED still can't take this one emotionally bent person down got a bit ridiculous)...and then just as as bad his body just up and disappears (how he crawled off or was carried off with so many of the other characters standing around was yet another groan inducing cop out)...and then you have the climax of the Peter/Nathan bit being this bad SFX moment that was truly underwhelming compared to other things they show had already done in episodes past. I swear, even though it was filmed on location outdoors, even the overall set seemed bland and low cost. I swear, that was the other thought in my head watching the HEROES finale -- namely "What, did they run out of money for this one?"<p>Given that it WAS a hit for NBC however...and given that they're even doing this ORIGINS miniseries on the side next year...I hope NBC shovels some serious cash into the show to upscale it and start the new season with a bang. I think the finale this year DID leave a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths, so they'd better start off on the right foot next year or I think people defecting from the show or losing interest in it has a chance of happening sooner than later. BUT...we'll just have to see. Here's hoping they learned from their mistakes and miscues.
June 21, 2007, 4:16 p.m. CST
The greatest series ever! on tv ended two weeks ago and you fucks at AICN hardly pay attention. What do we get??? Hero's...please let's save Veronica Pluto and Jerico....man this website continues to suck more everyday!
June 21, 2007, 4:34 p.m. CST
Remember the LOST Season 1 finale? When they opened the hatch and camera just panned down, people were saying the SAME thing back then! They were swearing off LOST, but they came back for more. At least Heroes delivered real answers on its finale.
June 21, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST
by Big Dumb Ape
It's coming back next year as a mid-season replacement, so that ala LOST it can run interrupted into the spring. CBS has ordered up an initial 7 episodes and has said that depending on how it does, they'll consider ordering more for the following year.<p>Of course network TV schedulers being network TV schedulers (translation: people known for having their head up their ass) Vegas odds say they'll ultimately slot JERICHO against one of the hotter shows that's currently on (thus putting the final nail in the coffin, at which point CBS will throw up its hands and try to look guilt free by saying "Hey, at least we TRIED") or they'll find a way to perpetually preempt even a measly 7 episode run and thus kill it that way...
June 21, 2007, 4:47 p.m. CST
"every minute Christopher Eccleston was on screen was torturous"<p>I'm hoping that was a joke. that's like saying, "every second I was receiving oral sex from that model with the gigantic tongue was torturous."
June 21, 2007, 5:27 p.m. CST
I watched the torturous first half of the season and stopped in January. To hear that it just got worse and finished with a terrible finale makes me even more confident that I made the right decision.
June 21, 2007, 6:09 p.m. CST
Do not pass go do not collect $200.
June 21, 2007, 6:12 p.m. CST
:D (just kidding there; Heroes kicked it old school in that amazing 5 episode home stretch going into the finale.
June 21, 2007, 6:48 p.m. CST
by Napoleon Park
This will get booed down by the fans who only like sci-fi genre shows and hate soap operas, but tonight's Grey's Anatomy rerun is the one with the little girl who doesn't feel pain. Open-minded comics fans interested in the real-world downside to such a 'super-power' might find it interesting.
June 21, 2007, 9:16 p.m. CST
imagine- a mutant who can raise the dead! zombies have always been a comic staple, so why not? But no, not on primetime tv, it'll offend the christians... or something. Crap! Even Harry Potter has zombies!
June 22, 2007, 1:13 a.m. CST
We waited like 25 episodes for Peter to fight Sylar and then it's only like a 2 seconds long. Boo. Not to mention the weeks that would go by where nothing happened. I dunno, it reminds me of Lost in that respect.
June 22, 2007, 7:27 p.m. CST
Heroes finale was a HUGE Letdown. Worst waste of an hour. I kept waiting for SOMETHINGT to happen, and nothing did. Where were all the freakin people? The "bomb" didnt even seem that threatening b/c it seemd like EVERY-FREAKIN-PERSON in New York had FREAKIN DISAPPEARED. There was no real fight scene at the end. And dont give me that bullshit that the show isnt about the powers. FUCK THAT. This show is to ENTERTAIN. U dont make a show about people with powers and not have them do shit with them. Hell NO. Sylar should've fought against Peter, backed by the oHeroes, Sylar shoulda got stabbed, and then as his body is being carried about by authorities, he manages to escape. Now that bullshit way out where no one fuckin sees him. So STUPID!
June 24, 2007, 2:18 a.m. CST
by Bass Bastardson
I was a big fan of this show for most of the first season but the finale sucked so much ass, on so many different levels, that I'm certainly not going to waste my time watching another go around.
June 24, 2007, 9:34 a.m. CST
I mean, at this point casting Malcolm McDowell as a villain is a joke. Has he ever played a part where he WASN'T a villain? And the Sylar guy is just boring. I stuck with the show, hoping it would pay-off in the finale, and I think we all know how that turned out. This show needs: 1. More coherent story, 2. Less annoying characters like the schizo blonde, 3. More humor, 4. Less dank and depressing cinematography, and 5. A great villain. OH and I almost forgot, how about some actual acts of HEROISM in a show called HEROES??? I can count about 5 altogether for the entire first season. A better title for the show might be ANTI-HEROES.
June 24, 2007, 2:28 p.m. CST
This is a great show with so much potential. It's character-driven superhero drama taken seriously. What more could a geek ask for? CGI Superhero action like in the movies is just not possible on a TV budget. Studio puts that much money in this show and suddenly it gets too expensive and next thing you know the shows cancelled without ever getting a chance.
June 25, 2007, 1:40 p.m. CST
by Phantom Einstein
Just like Wolverine. Hell, they should throw in some adamantium claws, too.