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The Casting of Wolverine... X-MEN bit
The Aluminum Samurai sent in this brief casting description that went out in New York yesterday. I don't know... Personally, I always thought of Wolverine in the Mid-Thirties to Early Fifties age group. I always thought of him as a bit haggard and world-weary. What do you folks think?
I'm sure you know this already - but I got the New York Casting Breakdowns
this morning and they are looking for a Wolverine.
This is what is said:
[LOGAN/WOLVERINE] Male, late 20s to mid 30s. 5’5 to 6’ in height. Logan is the
ultimate loner, a gruff, earthy man/mutant with
a volatile temper that when provoked, yields uncontrollable rage and extreme
violence. Yet he is capable of tenderness and
empathy, which manifests itself best in his relationships with women. His
mutations provide him with superior strength and
enhanced senses - hearing and scent in particular...LEAD
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I don't know. Personally, I'd always thought of Wolverine as been a fair bit older.
The rest of it seems alright to me - Jack Nicolson would be perfect in my eyes, although he may be perhaps getting a little past it. -
Healing Factor, Hmmmmmm?!??
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Wolverine 20 to 30? Six feet tall? Huh? Guys, do some research! Wolvie's about 5 to 5'5, and he's about 50 or so, but a 35-40 year old could probably pull it off. Get it right, people!
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yea i think 6 ft is stretching it a bit...but then again, where are you going to find a 5'-5'5" 50-year old actor? we're talkin danny devito here...
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OKay, someone involved up high in the production of X-Men must read this page. Listen to us!
WOlverine is short!!!! Again Wolverine is short!!
Wolverine is the oldest of the team. Wolverine is the oldest!
While he is in his seventies, he should look late-thirties-early forties.
Mel Gibson is perfect for the part. HE IS SHORT!
A six foot tall Wolverine would suck! He is stocky, and bulky. Muscular, not slender at all.
Nothing like a 6 foot tall person.
The movie will make gazillions, you can afford Mel Gibson!
Watch Payback & tell me he isn't perfect for Wolverine!!!
Anyway, as long as you don't cast an opposite of the character, I'll be happy.
Elias Koteas is good, as is Harvey Keitel. I'd rather see a too old actor than a too young one!
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Stallone.
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while it doesn't really fit the casting call, I always thought Ed Harris would be perfect to play Wolverine...just thought i would share.
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Have you guys ever seen Jack Nicholson in the movie Wolf? I mean he looks just like wolverine in that! If Wolvies in his late 30s- early 50s... I mean Jack can play just about anyone! He already played the Joker, I'm sure he'd love to do another comic book character. What do you think?
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I say Gary Sinese. He may not be old enough to be ideal, but he has the stature and can portray the attitude.
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I say Gary Sinese. He may not be old enough to be ideal, but he has the stature and can portray the attitude.
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jack could do it except for the fact that his build is all wrong. They'd have to pad him up with lots of fake muscle.
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jack could do it except for the fact that his build is all wrong. They'd have to pad him up with lots of fake muscle.
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Yeah, it's too bad they weren't making this film ten years ago. Nicholson would've been perfect. For me there is no substitute, except maybe for Glenn Danzig. He's pretty short, but built like a truck. And he's got the glare down pretty well.
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Jack Nicholson? I know Wolvie is middle aged.. but Jack is plain out and out geriatric these days... I will concede that maybe 10..well, 15 years ago.. yeah, sweet choice. But, an under 5'5" actor that could pull off Logan's persona? And be over 40? Geez.. Gary Sinise would be comical. So would Mel G. In my mind, Russell Crowe is the only guy I can phathom as Wolverine. He has the range and the brooding look to him. He would be the PERFECT choice.. even though he is probably 6 feet tall and he is only 34 or so.... Any thoughts on Sid 6.7/Bud/Hando????
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...If you dyed his hair and beefed him up a little, Jake Busey is just wild enough and just strange enough to pull of the hair-trigger temperament and mysterious nature of Logan. Second pick is Russell Crowe, who'd do a fine job. Gary Sinise is a long shot but a good one. Jack Nicholson?! Some of you out there would put Jack up for ANY role, wouldn't you?
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I am so glad that someone mentioned Harvey for Wolverine. John McLame you are a GOT DAM GENIUS!! I have been saying the same thing for years! He's perfect. He's shortish, bulky, muscular, and he can project the kind of freal intensity that Wolverine, as a characer just has to have. I cannot imagine anyone esle doing as creidble a job. Look at harvey. He IS Wolverine. Who else could call somebody "Bub" and not sound like an idiot.
That having been said I was warmingto the idea of Russell Crow. He isn't physically the part, but I think that he could seel it. The Bud White chracter in LA Confidential is really pretty similar to Wolverine, or at least the Wolverine it seems they want to project in the film. But please...Harvey...please. If he can't do it, it will forever be a disapointment to me. Oh Well. If Harvey can't do it, then I vote for MOJO NIXON. He's definitely a wildman, and he's got that abstract hair thing going on much like our Canadian berzerker amigo.
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I'm soooo tired of media thinking Wolverine is super strong!!! He doens't have superhuman strength!! He has a healing factor and an indesctructable skeleton!! (well not any more w/ the skeleton) HE is not super humanly strong!!!! AND so help me god If they give him an australian accent like in the old spiderman and his amazing friends episodes I will hunt down Singer! GRR!
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Wolverine is called Wolverine because he is a little guy. A wolverine is a small, badger like animal known for its ferocity. It doesn't make sense for him to be 6 feet tall. It would be like casting a 6'4" actor and calling him Antman.
Russel Crow would be great but he is really really tall. I kinda like the Gary Sinse idea and I never considered Mel Gibson but you have to admit his character in Lethal Weapon and Payback are similar in temperament.
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Dafoe could spout the Wolvie lines without seeming silly.
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...may I add one? I remember watching the movie Predator when it came out...remember the Indian guy who cuts his chest with a knife while standing on the footbridge and waits for the predator? I remember thinking "Man, he makes me think of Wolverine". His name is Sonny Landham, and he has been in a bunch of movies I haven't seen, including Action Jackson, Maximum Force, The Savage Land, Dirty Dozen: The Next Mission (saw that one), and Best of the Best II. I know our favorite mutant isn't an Indian, but this guy sure looked/acted the part in my opinion (except maybe the height). Can't remeber him? Check out http://tatooine.fortunecity.com/swampthing/155/predator.htm
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Mel Gibson? (Not that he would ever do it.) He is about the right hight, (and as I imagine), about the correct age. I agree that Logan should be around 40. Maybe Mel is a little too old. I think he could pull it off though.
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A good actor for Wolverine? I think all the suggestions by my learned fellow Talk Backers are all valid. In previous discussions on this topic, I've even heard Robert DeNiro as another choice for this role. Perhaps he'd be willing to take on something of this caliber, since he's always been willing to take a chance on a role. (By the way, the subject header quote is taken from my favorite X-Men story from my youth, when the Hellfire Club captures all the X-Men, but Wolverine. The last panel of the comic has old Wolvie rising out of the muck in the sewers where the Hellfire bastards had left him, thinking him dead, and he looks up and speaks the line, then you see his claws go SNICKETY-SNICK, beserker style, to quote Jay in Mallrats. Great storytelling.)
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C'mon people, your all missing the best actor for the part...Kurt Russel! Hes got that weathered face and a buff body, anyone see him in Soilder!?! Ok, Ok, I'm not sure how tall he is and hes not all that hairy, and if he can not be so corny (like in Escape from LA)but he could be great as wolvie. Is that too many ifs? Ok, just give the part to Harrison Ford.
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Have Ed norton put on about 25lbs of muscle...have him look much like the way he did in American History X....with his good ol' scruffy look...and BOOM...we've got our Wolverine.
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To throw my two cents into the mix on Wolverine casting, I have to go with Fred Ward. He has that lived-in look that is essential for the character, not to mention a voice that sounds like he gargles with glass. I did like the idea of Dafoe as Wolverine though
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Crowe, hands down, is the one to do this. He's small and powerful enough, he's got he slightly grizzled look, and did anyone see L.A. Confindential. He epitomized the pissed-off loner. Perfect.
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Personally, I prefer the lean, feral Wolvie to the one portrayed nowadays... He should act like a short Clint Eastwood. Not a short Arnold Swarthzenneggnog. Go back and read the Frank Miller mini-series, or read the X-men issues circa Byrne or, my fave time in X-verse, issues 180 - the INFERNO saga, or the MELTDOWN mini-series. God, I could go on all day.
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prequel." No word about all this yet from Harry's site, but stay tuned! -
TIM CONWAY!!! yep you heard me right!! Tim Conway!! I think this is the absolut best choice for Wolverine except Gary Coleman (now see thats shortness and vicious violence personified!!) With Tim conway Singer could just do the DORF thing and bury Tim up to his kneecaps in the set! That would be HILARIOUS!!! Tim Conway's DORF as Wolverine or Gary Coleman (man this runt needs work too seeing that he's working as a security guard now!!) those are MY picks!!!! --McK (anybody else think this movie will suck?)
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In the Addams Family movie Christopher Lloyd plays Uncle
Fester, who is a very short character, yet Christopher is a
very tall man! So don't worry if an actor is too tall.
Even though I don't particularly like this actor, I think Kurt
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I think that Robert DeNiro would make a good Wolverine. Even Harvey Keitel would not be to bad, if he was to get into shape.
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Mar 25, 1999 9:58:26 AM CST
The first sentence describes my feeling towards X-Men but sing a
by abking
"I am sick of this subject. Lets talk about....... Dayo... me say Day ye ye yo... Daylight come and me wa gu home..... Work all night till the drink of rum... Daylight come and me wanto go home. De, me say de me say de me say day... Daylight come and me wanto go home. A beautiful bunch of ripe banana... (you guys know the rest) This was from that awesome scene in Beetle Juice. Was just in the mood to sing it. But the first sentence describes what I feel about X-Men. "I am sick of that subject".
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Has anyone considered how well Robert Dinero would fit the role of Wolverine. Aside from the Bronx accent and the fact that he would probably never do the movie, he would fit the bill perfectly. Midle aged, in good shape, dark complexion, gruff, and an overall bad-ass!
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Here is a list of XMen:
Wolverine: Robert DeNiro
Nightcrawler: Prince
Cyclops: Kevin Cosner
Professor X: Patrick Stewart
Storm: Iman the super model
Colousus: Dolph Lungren
Kitty Pride: Drew Barrymore
Jean Grey: Gillian Anderson
Forge: Dustin Hoffman
Comments Please
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Wolverine is in excess of 75 years old, but his healing factor makes him look 35-45, but tough, gritty and generally unstoppable just by appearance alone, and his voice and style of speaking should hint at his age.
He's shorter than the average actor, maybe around 5'4" to 5'8" would be just fine, so Danny Devito is not needed, he could never be buff enough anyway.
I think Mel Gibson is too skinny, we need more of a Harvey Keitel meets Miles Davis meets Jack the ripper sort of thing.
It wouldn't hurt to use an unknown if he can act and fill the bill, so this role needs to be cast very carefully.
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Someone who has never been mentioned for the part, yet fits it perfectly is Henry Rollins.
He's huge, he's short, he's really pissed off, plus, unlike Glen Danzig, he can act. And he's in his late 30's, so he would be believable. -
Michael Ironside.
He's Canadian, so he already has the right accent. He's got the look and attitude and can play the right age and with the right angles and setup, he can look as short or as tall as necessary. -
Mar 25, 1999 10:40:51 AM CST
Are you sure this is casting for the film and not the Broadway M
by dennis
A six foot actor? Well, they must be using the NBA for the rest of the cast. Now, to be reasonable, you're not going to find many 5'5 actors, but they could at least pick someone around 5'6/5'7. The age I think is o.k., because they may be after someone younger who would make it through several sequels without severe aging. They can make a 20-35 year old look older, and let's not forget Logan ages slower than most. What ever happened to Russell Crowe as Wolvie? I thought he would've been brilliant. I used to say Keitel, but I think he's getting a little long in the tooth. They did pretty well on the psychological aspects of the character, though. The best choice is an actor that's not good looking, but still has a level of sex appeal. Women are always after the bad boy, right? I'm not sure I totally believe this story anyway. I would expect Prof. X, Wolverine and Magneto to be the few characters they would want to cast with "known" actors. Or not.
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Mar 25, 1999 10:40:54 AM CST
Are you sure this is casting for the film and not the Broadway M
by dennis
A six foot actor? Well, they must be using the NBA for the rest of the cast. Now, to be reasonable, you're not going to find many 5'5 actors, but they could at least pick someone around 5'6/5'7. The age I think is o.k., because they may be after someone younger who would make it through several sequels without severe aging. They can make a 20-35 year old look older, and let's not forget Logan ages slower than most. What ever happened to Russell Crowe as Wolvie? I thought he would've been brilliant. I used to say Keitel, but I think he's getting a little long in the tooth. They did pretty well on the psychological aspects of the character, though. The best choice is an actor that's not good looking, but still has a level of sex appeal. Women are always after the bad boy, right? I'm not sure I totally believe this story anyway. I would expect Prof. X, Wolverine and Magneto to be the few characters they would want to cast with "known" actors. Or not.
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Mar 25, 1999 10:41:04 AM CST
Are you sure this is casting for the film and not the Broadway M
by dennis
A six foot actor? Well, they must be using the NBA for the rest of the cast. Now, to be reasonable, you're not going to find many 5'5 actors, but they could at least pick someone around 5'6/5'7. The age I think is o.k., because they may be after someone younger who would make it through several sequels without severe aging. They can make a 20-35 year old look older, and let's not forget Logan ages slower than most. What ever happened to Russell Crowe as Wolvie? I thought he would've been brilliant. I used to say Keitel, but I think he's getting a little long in the tooth. They did pretty well on the psychological aspects of the character, though. The best choice is an actor that's not good looking, but still has a level of sex appeal. Women are always after the bad boy, right? I'm not sure I totally believe this story anyway. I would expect Prof. X, Wolverine and Magneto to be the few characters they would want to cast with "known" actors. Or not.
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ok ok, since this is as good a place as any for an X-dream cast....
+Cyclops - Michael Biehn
+Colossus Dolph Lundgren
+Storm - Angela Bassett (yeah, she doesn't fit the age exactly, but DAY-YUM! She IS Storm!)
+Apocalypse - The Big dude from Armageddon and The Green Mile.
+Nightcrawler - Jason Scott Lee, get him back into the shape he was in in Dragon and paint 'im blue.
+Dazzler - Charlize Thieron (sp?)
+Rogue - Ashley Judd
+Havok - Ben Affleck's little brother or Jay Mohr
+Jubilee - Buried in a swamp somewhere...
+Gambit - Brad Pitt
+Magneto - Rutger Hauer
+Kitty Pryde - Natalie Portman or the chick from Felicity
+Sebastian Shaw - Liam Neeson
+Xavier - please..Patrick Stewart
+Wolverine - Robert Carlysle (sp?)
yeah, that'll work...
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Cyclops-Michael Beihn
Jean Grey-Rene Russo
Beast-Kelsey Grammer (voice)
wolverine-Mel Gibson
colossus-Vincent D'Onofrio
Forge-David Strathairn
Iceman-Ben Affleck
Xavier-Patrick Stewart
Magneto-Christopher Walken
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Robert Carlyle as Wolverine.
I know, I know, he's tiny and scrawny but remember him in Trainspotting? That scene where Begbie is in the bar and goes off on the guy. He's a vicious little beast full of blind rage -- now that's Logan to me. He's small and feral and would kill anyone who crosses him in a New York second. Just slap a black wig on him with some sideburns and darken his eyebrows, make him work out for a few months to bulk up and that's close enough for me. I can see Carlyle and Vince Vaughn together, both vying for Julianne Moore's Jean Grey and hating each other's guts (their height differences would be pretty funny to see onscreen, as opposed to Vaughn with Crowe). I can also see Carlyle with Patrick Stewart and Terence Stamp (Magneto, I hope). Kinda can't see him with Angela Bassett (I can see her with Crowe, though). Let's face it, no actor looks like Wolvie, not even Russell Crowe but at least he's got the persona. If you want a 5'3'', 200 lb, hairy, swarthy brute you end up with the following choices: Bob Hoskins (I could kinda see it, actually), Danny DeVito, Joe Pesci (that blind rage again), or Burt Young!!! Forget Stallone. Willem Dafoe maybe? Bruce Willis I could see (but just don't slap that Flock of Seagulls hairdo on any of them, please, Bryan Singer!). Mel Gibson, but he's doing The Patriot this summer so scratch him off the list (even if Richard Donner is more involved with the X-flick). But I bet Bruce Willis will be cast because of his long-standing, profitable relationship with Fox. That and the fact that they'll probably need a $20M dollar name for a summer opening. -
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as a long time reader of the xmen books.. and all the rumors over the years about casting, i always seem to be the last to point this one choice out to people: GLENN DANZIG. he's the lead singer of the same named band. real nasty heavy metal shit. but if you find a picture of this guy and look at him, you'll see he IS wolverine. also.. wolvy ain't no 6 ft tall. he's a freaking mutant lil runt. think GLENN DANZIG. somebody tell the casting director! -
Six feet tall!!!!Late 20's!!!!!Did they confuse Wolverine with Gamibit?!!!I was hoping that this movie could lift the Marvel Curse, but with this crap it looks as if my hopes will be dashed.
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Four words: Stone Cold Steve Austin.
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Wolverine - Russell Crowe. Not too good looking, but sexy. Can give the character the edge it needs. Jean Grey - Heather Graham with red hair. She can play tough AND vulnerable. Plus, she's beautiful and has a great body. Professor X- Ed Harris (shaved head), can give depth to the character, I think Stewart and Kingsley are too old. Prof. X is not geriatric. Cyclops - Casper Van Dien. I hate Cyke. He's a momma's boy. Van Dien is plastic-y enough to play him. Rogue - Shouldn't be in the movie, but if she was: Charlize Theron has the looks and the body and the accent. She's a little on the skinny side, though, and may take herself a little too seriously, like Ashley Judd, i.e. "I'm a REAL actress." They could go with an unknown, but I really prefer someone on the amazonian side for this part. Storm - I like Basset, but she IS too old, despite the great shape she's in. I don't like what they've done with this character in recent years, making her cold and bitchy. I liked the vulnerable, arrogant Storm that debuted in the 70s. That costume rocked, too. Definitely cast an unknown for this part. Nightcrawler - I like the suggestion of Leguizamo, but he has to pull off the German accent (Mein Gott!!). I know he's hispanic, but he'll be in full makeup the whole time anywho. Colossus - Forget Arnie, geriatric! Get the guy from the Conan the Barbarian t.v. show. I think the man can actually act, but that's just my opinion.
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That's about it.
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Chris Benoit would be a perfect match. Hell he's Canadian & his nickname is The Wolverine. Check out his look on WCW. You know this movie will suck if they dont do it right, I dont care if its an all star cast. In some cases a comic book and a little imagination go a long way, hopefully they'll do XMen justice.
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If you're going to cast Wolverine, there are only three choices.
1 Edward Norton
Can act and could most probably play Wolverine. Depends whether he'd want to "lower" himself by doing a comic-book film.
2. Russel Crowe
Could also do a good job but was thrown out of bar a few years ago for insulting Canad, Canadians and ice hockey.
3. Michael Wincott
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For Wolverine, I was thinking Bob Hoskins,but then Fred Ward was mentioned. Yeah!
Ha ha-->how about Bruce Willis?!!
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Hey big wigs over at wherever it is this x-men movie is taking place. Everyone with a brain knows that wolvie is close to eighty years of age(doesn't show because of healing factor)Being that this IS a Hollywood movie I'll give you the benefit of doubt.If for some odd reason you do happen to cast a 5'5-6' actor would Mr. Singer do camera work to make him shorter or at least look it?I know that I may catch some flack for this but, personally I think Robin Williams would make a great Wolverine. Any comments let me know.
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Mel Gibson is a back up IF they can't get this guy because IF ya didn't know Mel and Richard Donner team ups MAKE MONEY hand over fist... but the Man for the job as far as I know don't have any experience with Mr. Donnor but I DO KNOW He's a good friends with John Carpter and has worked on several genre of movies with him from Biopics to Horror, to Action-Comedies to Sci-fi. and I was running a poll on my site on this and 9 people agree that the Man for the job of Playing Wolvering should be. Kurt Russel!
That's right Kurt Russel.. Your thinking "No way!" but he's got the stats to back up him for the part.
Kurt's in the right age group, He's done FX ladden movies before, he's played similar roles about 4 times and he got Wolvie's voice down. IF they Can't get Kurt or Mel then they should Get Tommy Lee Jones because he looked like ol' Wolvie in MIB when the Ford POS was bookin' thru the tunnel inverted.
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I dunno about having any of the above mentioned actors play Wolverine, though Ed Norton may work. A scruffy Matt Damon is about the right size, but too pretty-boy? I was thinking more along the lines of an unknown athelete, kinda like Earl Boinkins lookin'. Also, though, I don't think the movie has to stick exactly to the comic description.
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Why didnt i think of this?!?
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Stop thinking pretty.
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does anyone else think Ed Nortan looks like he's 14? anyway bulk him up a lil' bit and he' could fit the part of Cyclopes
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OK, folks..>Gotta throw my hat in the ring here and make some of MY suggestions...Michael Ironside as wolverine..He's got the craggy, hardened look, the ultimate tough guy voice, and ISN'T an A-lister who would take over production....As for the rest, Well, Jean Claude WOULD be a good GAmbit (Hard target anyone?), except for, as was stated earlier, his penchant for taking over production...I say find some exMelrose palce guy to do it and move on, casting him ain't too important as long as he's pretty, unshaven and can fake a decent Cajun accent...As for Storm, Angela Basset still has my vote, although I doubt she'd do it (SHe's trying to become a REAL actress after all)...Rogue> Two words..Denise Richards...Get her an accnet coach and watch the heat melt the screen. As for Cyclops, Maybe Dylan McDermot (THe Practice) He's lanky, good looking and can pull off the brooding bit easily. JEan Grey?...Not important enuff to cast for me...
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Rutger Hauer as Magneto = Brilliant! Gambit - Matthew McConaughey (looks the part, could do the accent). As far as Jean Claude Van Damme...I defy anyone to tell me an actor who looks more like Prince Namor, The Sub Mariner. Or, paint him silver and call him the surfer.
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I already cats my vote for Robert Carlyle as Wolvie, but what about Stanley Tucci? he won a Golden Globe for "Winchell", was in Big Night, has played innumerable Mafioso and was in Kiss of Death. What if Tom Sizemore dropped forty pounds? How about him? Gary Oldman? Sean Bean? I like Crowe for it but after watching Virtuosity the other night he's lost some of my support. Either Stewart or Ben Kingsley for Prof X (or Connery). For Cyclops? Well, he was always too wooden a character and too mopey but I figure they'll cast some pretty boy up and comer to appeal to the Dimension Films/teen crowd. remember, whoever plays him will have to be someone okay with covering their eyes for the whole film (unless they pull a Judge Dredd on us). So for Cyke: Casper Van Diem, Freddie Prinze, Scott Wolf, Ryan Phillippe, Brendan Fraser or Keanu Reeves are probably the studio's preferred choices. I always kind of saw Timothy Hutton as him (too old now I guess). Ed Burns maybe? Luke Perry?! As for Storm, Bassett because Storm should be one of the team elders along with Xavier and Logan. For Rogue or Jean Grey the following are interchangeable: Angeline Jolie, Charlize Theron, Ashley Judd, Reese Witherspoon, Heather Graham. For Magneto? terence Stamp all the way. Rutger? Have you seen him lately? He's The Blob now. Jonathan Pryce? Jean Reno? Klaus Maria Brandauer?! I still like Robert Carlyle for Logan!!!
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I was reading these talk backs and getting worked up myself... then reading what you have to say defused my anger quite a bit. But, check out the suggestions immediately after your rant! ARGRHGRHGRHGR. Son of a F****** b****.. I don't get some of these choices... DeNiro??? Keitel??? Talk about senior citizens.. Fred f****** Ward? Sheez. After a couple of good suggestions, people done went coocoo..
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Why oh why do I post in these absurd X-Men talkbacks? I can't take it anymore. The only suggestions that have been good ones are those that state, "Think SMALLER. Cast no names!" They're going to have to do that, guys and gals. Otherwise, we'll get Freddie Prinze Jr. as Psyclops and Matthew Lillard as Wolverine, which would cause me to pull out my eyeballs with a spork. If I ever hear Harvey Keitel named as a potential Wolverine again, I'll beat someone. I can see it now, "He's good with da ladies? Heh heh...I'll show them good. I'm good. Just ask Nicole Kidman and her hair!" It'll be Bad Lieutenant all over again. I think that's all anyone needs to say about Mr. Keitel.
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Mar 25, 1999 2:20:31 PM CST
Is anyone else concerned about the length of time it's taking to
by dennis
I mean, one could say that it's a GOOD thing, and that maybe Mr. Singer is trying to get it right. On the other hand, maybe they're having a hard time finding talent because the script might really suck. In that case, we're screwed. Ed Norton would be better off cast as a villian in the X-Men saga, maybe Morph. I can't imaging Cyke being enough of a challenge for him. I don't understand everyone's facination with Rogue and Gambit. I always considered them to be off-center to the core team. Their whole "love story" is so freakin' melodramatic, too. In previous interviews, at least Singer seems to have identified the core story: the Logan-Scott-Jean love triangle. Let's face it, things really tend to focus around Storm, Prof. X, Wolverine, Cyke and Jean. I like Psylocke because she added a little spice, particulary during the Claremont run when she went after Scott, and we got to see Mr. Goody Two-Shoes #%$% up, but that should be saved for a sequel. I think the first film is right-on focusing on their most classic villian, Magneto. The second film should be Dark Phoenix/The Hellfire Club, and the third Sabretooth, and maybe a fourth with Black Tom and Juggernaut and a fifth with Apocalypse.
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"Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer"? You know, short, intense? Looks like he'd just as soon kill you as to look at you? I think he's the perfect choice for Wolverine.
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For Cyclops you need someone who really doesn't show depth in his characters because personally, I think Cyclops is too blah. He's not an attention getting character, and not one to use too much on the screen. Cyc can also be a real a-hole at times. He tries to keep the team together and does a terrible job at it. Xavier has to be a nice, well-rounded actor who can show us the various emotions that Xavier has. He has to be able to have that binding force as well as a somewhat inspiring performance, yet, still has to show us that he is only human and doesn't know how to deal with every situation (sounds somewhat similar to Captain Picard). Jean Grey, well, I don't want to sound like I'm hung-up on this Star Trek deal, but Marina Sirtis or Terry Ferrel would be good in the role, but I think Ferrel would be best 'cause she's younger, and I don't think Sirtis wants another telepathic role. Gambit has to have style, ellegence, but still able to be a rogue. Maybe Antonio Bandreas? And speaking of rogues, I'm not sure who to cast as Rogue. You ain't getting anyone with that body 'cause it only exists on those comic book pages. So, you need someone who is over six foot, beatutiful, yet can deliver a convincing performance. Colossus could be Dolph Lundren 'cause he's got the accent, but he's not nearly as buffed as the character. Only Arnold would have that body, but I don't think anyone should end up stealing the spotlight. This HAS to be a ensemble cast, and that is tuff to do for a bunch of people who probably never worked together before. Magneto could be a lot of people, but it has to be someone who is good at playing the villian, but Mags has a lot of good, human traits. One thing with the X-MEN is that each of them has compassion and/or passion for whatever it is they set out to do. Christopher Walken would be good, but obviously doesn't have the body for it. For Nightcrawler, you need someone that is limber, agile, and has a German Accent. I don't know who would fit that role. Storm could be played by Iman 'cause she's pretty good on-screen, but I haven't seen her to anything with the depth of Storm. Now, what about Bishop? Maybe Michael Duncan (Bear from 'ARMAGGEDON') or Ving Rhames, but by all means, he must be buff, young, and obviously, BLACK! Now, for Wolverine. Just to start out, I think Kurt Russel really stinks. I just think, to play Wolverine, you have to have some sort of attitude to begin with. Russel doesn't show me that, and basically, he just doesn't look the part. I don't really like Harvey Kietel, Stallone is too tall, and I can't pass judgment on Russel Crowe, Robert Carlyise 'cause I've never seen them in action before (let alone seen them at all). Bruce Willis has the look, but not half the body Wolverine has. Good 'ol Jack maybe just a bit too old and definite ain't got the body for it. Willem DaFoe could possibly do it, but he's too tall. And for the pro-wrestlers, I'm not sure. Austin is good, but they'd have to give him a wig, and it's tough to switch from a Texan accent to a Canadian one. Benoit is good, but who knows if he coudl act, and the one who plays Wolvie has to be DAMN good 'cause he's got the most depth and the most intriguing character because of his mysterious past. I don't think this actor exists, but if I HAD to choose one person, then I'd choose Michael Beck. Ever seen 'THE WARRIORS'? He's got the body for it, but he's at least Six Foot tall, and with the scruffy beard he could possibly pull it off. Also, Wolvie is at least in his late 30's to early 40's (in appearance anyway). Wolvie could live to be 100, and look about half the age. Anyway, I think 20th CENTURY FOX is gonna have trouble finding the right people for these roles. Also, if they're having Beast in this mvoie, then, unfortunately, I think he's gonna be CG'ed because I don't think they'd be able to make a convincing enough suit for him or find someone to portray him the way he is. Hank is just too big to be played by anyone just in appearance. These are just my thoughts & picks, not who I think are the best choices, just my choices. I think we may see some unknowns in this movie 'cause I would like to say 'that's Wolverine" or "that's Gambit", not "that's Pactrick Stewart" or "that's Bandreas." -NJM
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Well done Grump and Ruffiger, I posted a few comments on this very matter a few months ago (during the Russell Crowe rumours). Michael Ironside is short, he's Canadian, he's muscular, he looks about 40 years old but still fit, he has a great sneer, he has a deep growly voice, he looks cool smoking a cigar and he even referred to somebody as "Bub" when he was in "V" all those years ago. That was when I knew he was the perfect choice and I never forgot. Look at him in Scanners, V, Total Recall, Starship Troopers - he's already got the sci-fi pedigree and he wouldn't cost so much that the effects and locations would suffer (the movie has to be international if it's going to tell the origin of the "new" group). Michael Ironside for Wolverine!! The campaign starts here!!
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WCW's Raven. Even though WCW claims he's six feet tall, he has kind of a stocky build, and looks perfect for the part. He's rugged and weary looking, is always really pissed off and is a bad-ass.
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The team should be rotating with each of the films, but the core characters Cyke, Jean, Wolvie, Prof. X and Storm should remain. The rotating team members in the first film SHOULD be Nightcrawler, Colossus and Banshee. The second film: Shadowcat, Colossus, Iceman. The third: Psylocke, Beast, Angel. Fourth: Banshee, Rogue, Beast and the Fifth: Rogue, Gambit, Bishop with an appearance by Cable.
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Sorry I got your name wrong, mate, (where the hell did I get 'Ruffiger' from??).
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I just saw the commercial for STAR TREK 2: THE WRATH OF KHAN on TNT, and it came to me that Ricardo Montalban would be PERFECT for Magento! He's shown how great avillian he can be as Khan, and has shown that he can play the total opposite (Fantasy Island). He also has shown that he's not all with serious roles (THE NAKED GUN). So, depending on his age, he could be perfect for the role. What do you think? -NJM
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to Michael Ironsides...he's a little loooong in the tooth, and he comes off as a VILLIAN in every movie he's IN!!! He came off as a villian to me in the rat-trap Starship Troopers. He'd be good for the Hellfire Club, maybe. Look, I know Wolverine's no Brad Pitt, but he's not hideous! He's rough around the edges, but he's kind of compact and cute. He's not Michael Ironsides ugly! Russell Crowe. Period. Acting talent, charisma, machismo and decent looking without it being the main focus.
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I say let Glen Danzig play Logan. He's 5'5'', built like house, a martial artist, and most of all HE KNOWS WHO WOLVERINE IS. I remember wathcing MTV years ago when they interviewed him. He held up a copy of Wolverine (the limited series) and stated something to the effect that Logan was the greatest characters ever created. If you want somebody to do the job right then you go for the fanboy. Besides, you can't really harp on Danzig's acting ability since he's only appeared in one movie (Prophecy II) for about 10 seconds.
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Ricardo Montalban as Magneto???...we'll why don't we just haul o
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DAMMIT, JIM, YOU'RE RIGHT!!! Shatner would make a GREAT Wolverine! About Danzig...let him do a screen test, if he can act, let him try out with the rest of them. But don't cast the guy on just looks alone. Adam Sandler could hold up a Gambit comic, but I still don't want him playing the guy!
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I like Ricardo Montalban too, but I don't believe he can stand or walk anymore. I believe he has been ill and now only does voice acting or at least has to be sitting down. I really like his stuff over the years and I would have loved to have seen Kahn on The Next Generation if he had somehow survived the Genesis explosion and was tossed into the future. Anyway... all this is interesting but based on past experiences, Marvel doesn't do as good a job as DC when converting their characters to film, -even though I believe they have better material. Plus I doubt they will get any of the top names suggested in this Talk Back (even my suggestion of Mel Gibson). Oh well... it's fun to talk about!
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but I'd like to say I think the following are good ideas... M. Ironside, G. Sinise, R. Crowe, R. Carlyle. Good actor needed. Short VERY important. And 'older' would be much preferable to 'younger'. Liked someone's suggestion of Heather Graham with red hair being Jean... but I also offer up her TP co-star Sheryl Lee. I'm sure she'd look marvelous with a red do... someone at Frost/Lynch claimed that had there been a THIRD season, she'd have returned to the show as a redhead (ANOTHER cousin)... which would have been fine by me.
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I think that Russell Crowe and Heather Graham would have great chemistry.
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Another thought popped into my head. What about Ed Burns as Cyke? Ed Burns (Cyke), Heather Graham (Jean), Russell Crowe (Logan), Ed Harris (Prof. X).
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Marvel and Hollywood are like water and oil.
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As it is with every comic book based film, you have to think in realistic terms about the casting. Look at Batman, for example. In the comics, Batman is, what, 6'3", 220 lbs or something like that. Who do they cast: Michael Keaton. Now he herdly fits the bill, but he did a fine job at it anyway. Now Wolverine is 5'3", 195 lbs. Now what actor fits that bill? They are going to have to cast someone who is different than that, because no one fits that bill. They are going to need someone who is not that tall, kind of muscular, and who has that loner/pissed look to him. Now who fits that? Plain and simple: Russell Crowe! He IS a beefy guy, had the loner/hothead act down pat in "L.A. Confidential, and the sideburn look in "Heaven's Burning."
All other choices aren't even close. Nicholson?: Too old and skinny. Norton?: Too young and meek looking. etc. etc. etc.
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look, Wolverine is short, canadian, and is not effected by age and disease he can be played by only one person Michael J Fox. he is the only one who fits all catergories. But seriously I have yet to see anybody perfect for the role yet.
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Jon Voight is Magneto. Jon's a gruff looking guy who can be the ultimate bad guy (Anaconda anyone?). He is also a fairly large man who would be intimidating as Magneto, and not laughable like the head villians in other films like skinny stevie dorf in 'Blade.'
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Then Jolie could be the Scarlett Witch :). Someone would have to tell Voight to go easy on the cheese, though. Like his HAMMY performance in Anaconda. What a horrible character, but he managed to make it worse!
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I'm not a die-hard X-men fan - i've never read a comic - but i watched the 'toon, (yeah i know, i know) but i'm looking forward to the movie, very much so. Anyways, Michael Madsen, he's fairly Bulky, he's not Gangly (tall) and he plays a brooding character well. Also he ain't an A-Class movie star so he's not gonna blow the budget, and he's cool. Imagine Wolvie's got Magneto tied up and starts up his Bezerker attack, then stops and starts pouring petrol on the open wounds, while doing a nasty little jig.
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Russell Crowe has been offered the role. He has the script and is willing to do it. He knows nothing about the characters but is willing to research heavily.
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Wizard magazine ran an article on the x-men movie a couple of years back and they included pics of who their dream cast would be.From their pics my choice would be.....Robert Deniro!Think about the way he looked in cape fear!Total Bad ass!Make him hit the gym to get back to rock solid and you ve got yourself a mean,berserking,motherfucker...
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1) I have heard that they are also searching L.A. with this same description. 2) You'll note that the role description does not say "names only," which is what they do when they aren't willing to consider actors that you guys and gals would not necessarily know. Does this mean that they are NOT going to go with a star? No. Of course not. They probably are. But this does at least mean, in theory, that they are at least considering actors for the best match possible, and that name power will not be *100%* the determining factor. best, sterling. 3) As for who to cast, c'mon, kids. You know this part better than I, but some of the names you are recommending are 5'10" and 150 pounds soaking wet. Is it not possible to find an actor with a little more muscle? You do not just add "25 pounds" over night. As bad as the film was, Kurt Russel spend ONE YEAR getting his muscle for soldier.
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How about Ron Eldard as Cyke? he was Shep on ER and the cocky astronaut who got blinded in Deep Impact. If not him then maybe Campbell Scott from Singles, Spanish Prisoner or Big Night. What about Gretchen Mol for Rogue or Jean Grey?
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Russel Crowe is perfect for Wolverine. But if he is not available, I haven't seen anyone mention Tom Berenger - as good a choice in my opinion.
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Do any of you read the Talkbacks before posting? Apparently not, since most of you think casting Glenn Danzig is an original idea. I agree with Lane on this one, this isn't "Wizard's Casting Couch" where the point is to find people who look like comicbook characters (why else would wrestlers, porn stars, rockstars, and Ken Wahl always be mentioned?). Please realize that this is a studio movie and they're aren't going to hire a half dozen big-time movie stars, who would grind the project into the ground with their salaries, rewrite demands, and their "interpetation" of the characters. A studio hiring wrestlers and porn stars (Traci Lords excluded)? Come on, listen to your selves. This is going to be an FX heavy movie and that's where the cash is going to go. Remember, the writer and director made The Usual Suspects, a great movie with a big cast not chock full of stars. Who would have thought Stephen Baldwin would have been good for that role? Or Kevin Pollack? Who the hell even heard of Benicio Del Toro before that movie? Kevin Spacey was doing bit parts before anyone heard of Kyser Soze. I mean, nobody wanted Michael Keaton as Batman, now he's most people's favorite. In the end, what we can hope for is that they'll cast good actors we recognize who can embody the characters to the best that the script allows them, even if they aren't xeroxs of the comic books.
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I thought David Keith would make a fantastic Wolverine, see Donald Cammell's White of the Eye end sequences if you think I'm wrong. I just hope the script is ready. I wouldn't want the right cast with the wrong script. Let's hope the Geek God is smiling down on this project.
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I thought David Keith would make a fantastic Wolverine, see Donald Cammell's White of the Eye end sequences if you think I'm wrong. I just hope the script is ready. I wouldn't want the right cast with the wrong script. Let's hope the Geek God is smiling down on this project.
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Jesus God, 6 fucking feet tall.
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Wolverine fought as an operative in World War 2, so yes, he's older than they state. Not mentioning the healing factor is like not mentioning the Thing is made of orange bricks - part of his approach in combat and life is based around his ability to survive nearly anything. In fact, part of the point of Wolvie is that no one knows all that much about his past and he isn't all that forthcoming about his pre-WW2 life, so he could have come over on the Mayflower for all anyone knows.
As for the strength - he heals really quick and doesn't tire much either, so it might seem superhuman in that he can go full tilt all the time which would seem stronger than normal.
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Ok, wolverine is short, ugly, and has a bad temper. Hank the angry drunkin dwarf seems like he would fit in perfect.
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Barbara Bush, Nuff said.
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Where the hell do these people get their info.,first of all,Wolverine is like over 70,but he looks like he's about 55,also he's around 5'4, not 6'.
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Wolverine = Michael Wincott or Russell Crowe
Cyclops = Dylan McDermott
Proffesor X = Ed Harris
Jean Grey = Julianne Moore
Rogue = Charlize Theron
Magneto = Micheal Ironside
Colosuss = Dolph Lundgren
Storm = Angela Bassett
Jubilee = Denise Richards
Nightcrawler = John Leguizamo He can do the accent. Trust me.
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He's short, stocky, hairy. He's already the hedgehog so a wolverine isn't too far off. Or if you want a short, stocky Canadian with a short fuse how about William Shatner? Seriously though, if Magneto is supposed to have lived through WW2 then we need an older actor. If not Voight or Stamp, how about Christopher Plummer from Trek VI and Wolf? And how about Dina Meier as Jean Grey?
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Ron Jeremy. He's short and hairy.
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Ok, tell me this doesn't suck. This movie, which I was interested in at first, is gonna bomb sooo bad, because now you know that the oldest person in the cast will be, like, 24. Do we really need to see teens as leading roles in movies? Do any of the movie execs put any thought of talent/plot into their movies? No. They're too busy showing off some 15-year old with double dee's and no acting experience whatsoever (except for, like, a McDonald's commercial). Why? Because Hollywood is filled with white collar money-grubbing SOB's who don't care how good their movie is. I, as a young teen filmgoer, am extremely PO'ed that movies have gotten so crappy because of fame-hooked teen stars and the little green monster we call greed. Or is that envy...? Ah, who cares, you get my point. I'll make any good bet that X-men will be overrun by little grammar school a**wipes.
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Take a look at Robin williams. He's got the body and the hair for it. He just has to look a bit meaner...
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Let me begin by stating that Gary Sinise is perfect for Wolvie. He's short, ripped, and full of mad rage. When this man says "God damn it Gump" you listen. Crowe wouldn't be bad either, but he just doesn't seem scruffy enough.
In addition, I must add that the idea of casting really big named stars in this film is ridiculous. Who in the hell wants to see Stallone, Schwarzenegger, or even VanDamme acting like their still young enough to be action heroes.
Campbell Scott, as previously mentioned, would make an excellent Cyclops. The dude is reserved and fairly wooden just like the character.
Finally, I think the rest of the cast, except for Prof. X and whatever villian they use, should be no names. My choice for Xavier would be a shaven Kevin Spacey. If Magneto is the bad guy, they might as well complete the Usual Suspects reunion and cast Gabriel Byrne. The man is damn suave and can be a pretty wicked villian. Hasn't anyone seen Little Women? Scared the hell out of me. -
Let me begin by stating that Gary Sinise is perfect for Wolvie. He's short, ripped, and full of mad rage. When this man says "God damn it Gump" you listen. Crowe wouldn't be bad either, but he just doesn't seem scruffy enough.
In addition, I must add that the idea of casting really big named stars in this film is ridiculous. Who in the hell wants to see Stallone, Schwarzenegger, or even VanDamme acting like their still young enough to be action heroes.
Campbell Scott, as previously mentioned, would make an excellent Cyclops. The dude is reserved and fairly wooden just like the character.
Finally, I think the rest of the cast, except for Prof. X and whatever villian they use, should be no names. My choice for Xavier would be a shaven Kevin Spacey. If Magneto is the bad guy, they might as well complete the Usual Suspects reunion and cast Gabriel Byrne. The man is damn suave and can be a pretty wicked villian. Hasn't anyone seen Little Women? Scared the hell out of me. -
This XMEN film is going to make Mortal Kombat 2 look like SAVING PRIVATE RYAN.
The major problems with an x-men film resides only partially in the casting debate. the real dilemma is how do you fit an intriguing story that expands on a group of beloved characters, into a two hour ation film with an ensemble cast and a 100 million dollar of effects. i dont care whose directing it. its doomed.
FACT: Comic book adaptations are HORRIBLE. I was two years old when i saw Superman and that was as old as i had to be to know it was a crap film. The crow is trash. batman left me felling hollow (at least it was visually inventive). Dont get me wrong, i grew up on the x-men. I used to love 'em. But it doesnt matter who Singer or anybody casts for any part in any comic book film. They dont work.
The filmmkaer is going to spend half the film reaccuainting some middle americam mullited moron with every characters origin and/or special power. explaining how wolvie got his admantium penis. Who shaved Prof. X's head. Everything we already know will be retold in some unsatisfactory of unfaithful way.
We are fans educated in the lore of X-men. The bottom line is we are the only ones that may give a shit. Adapations are weak. How about we invent new heroes instead of trying to make a quick buck by rewriting the stories of the heros that have ingreained themselves on our culture over the past several decades. Sure all of the people will see it. but we are the only ones the film could have a lasting effect on. The comic book buyers. the idiots who buy those crappy toys that pale in comparison to SW toys. We are the built in audience and we are bound to be left unsatisfied. Mr. Singer must either be blind or brilliant. I hope he is the latter.
If not, the story will be so redicuously simplified and watered down that we will barely decipher any character nuances from whatever hack teen actor they stick in the film. I cant see the future but i sure as fuck see the writing on the wall.
This whole x-men thing makes me feel as good as i would if i were listening to lionel ritchie ballads in a torrential rainstorm on my way to a best friends funeral.
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Your posts are the only insighful things on talk back. keep it up. I laugh out loud when i read them.
oh by the way, did i mention X-men sounds as appetizing as a bowl of hot steamy dung with sugar on top.
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Man..Let Joe Pesci do it!
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KILL THIS THREAD. NOW. I just saw Michael J. Fox's name mentioned as Wolverine. Please, shoot it and put it out of it's misery before I start seeing Webster mentioned as Bishop.
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Mel Gibson IS Wolverine!
Search your feelings, you KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE!!! Wolverine should not be a new comer, he holds the team together!
Wolverine should have INSTANT presence, so Mel is the man for the job!
Other suggestions: Casper Van Dien as CYCLOPS, & Rutger Haur as Magneto!! These are PERFECT choices. I like Patrick Stuart as Professor X too! As for the rest of the team, Heather Grahmn is a great idea! The rest of the team? Who cares. The rest don't matter.
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I don't know, call it the Marvel curse, but no matter who they cast, pick to direct, write the script, do the special effects, etc., this movie will suck, suck, suck. X-Men is loved by too many people who will pick it to death, anyway (evidenced by the entire conversation above). For my money...Russell Crowe for Wolverine, Iman or Angela Bassett for Storm (And I'll make a strong argument for Iman: she looks the part, she's old enough [Storm is not young, but she is beautiful], Iman is Senegalese [folks are worried about Wolverine's accent, but I'm more worried about the accurate portrayal of an African woman, and it would be nice to see Africans getting parts playing Africans in American movies], and she doesn't suck at acting [she's no Angela Bassett or Alfre Woodard, but hey, you can't have everything]--Interesting tidbit, at least to me, anyway...My dad wanted to name me Storm after the character, but my mom said no). Who's the guy who plays Sidney on the Pretender? He'd make a great prof. X. But you know, I'm not even finishing this because it doesn't matter. An X-Men film is doomed to suck, and even if it doesn't, X-Men fans will find plenty to bitch about, so who cares. By the way...height isn't really an issue when it comes to actors because most Hollywood actors are very short. The camera work hides this fact very well, but it's true. Most are Tom Cruise, Leonardo DiCaprio short.
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I've been away on vacation in Atlanta for the past two weeks. While I was gone, did they give control of the "X-Men" film to either Joel Shumacher or Akiva Goldsman? Because that casting news sure does hint at it
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I agree with a lot here (and greatly disagree with a lot too), but I saw Gary Oldman's name came up somewhere for some part and all I have to say is that Gary Oldman would not be a good Wolvie, but he NEEDS TO BE IN THIS MOVIE!! That guy can play most anyone. Shave him and he's Prof X (only if Patrick Stewart turns it down), give him a funky visor and he's Cyclops. Tell him he's a bad guy who's not all that bad, and he's Magneto. In fact, he could probably play half the villians in the Marvel universe.
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One of my top choices, believe it or not, is Ernest Borgnine.... about 40 years ago. Seeing old movies of him, I just saw Logan. Ah well... As for more recently, the first thing my friend said immediately after seeing Predator was "That Indian guy IS Wolverine!" So here-here to the person who suggested him. He didn't exactly have a chance for extensive acting in that role, but he wasn't bad and definitely has the look and attitude. Mostly I'll just be happy if they don't try to get the hair the same as the comics. It's one thing to draw it, another thing entirely to make it in real life. Just look at Capt. America and SpiderMan's costumes!! Is they try getting the hair like inthe comics it'll just end up looking like a rabid Ace Ventura!
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Sadly, I feel I have to agree with the naysayers. Bryan Singer is a talented director, sure, but the juggling act required to do a movie with one superhero is nearly impossible. Do it with an ensemble? Not even if all the best directors in the world joined forces! The big problem for me isn't the casting, or the backstory...it's the costumes. You can draw Wolverine to look like the meanest badass this side of the Rockies, but you dress any actor up in a blue and yellow suit, and give him sticky-up hair and some fake claws...he's going to look stupid. People in tight costumes can be made to look good in comics, but on film they look like...people in tight costumes.
Having said that, I still think Superman The Movie is as close as we're going to get to a perfect superhero flick. Superman doesn't actually appear until halfway through and, more or less, they treat the origin of the character with a bit of respect. But that was the 70's. Can you imagine any studio now letting a director make a "dumb" fantasy movie where the "action" doesn't start until an hour in? That won't sell Happy Meals, so we get lumped with rushed, nonsensical shite like Batman and Robin. -
Tell me!
Just so you know I think he's a Pretty boy! Ok for the names I've seen so far being mentioned
Raven: Works for Ted, used to be in EC F'N W but can't get over with WCW crowds so He can't do it
Chris Benoit: another WCW boy wrong hair color and WCW fans know about bad dye jobs..
Steve Austin: you was joking RIGHT?
here's who I think are most suited to play Wolvie and that's the bottom line.
1.Kurt Russel very experenced
2.Mel Gibson experenced and a friend of Co-producing Donnors
3.Mike Ironside experenced with genre
4.Tommy Lee Jones experenced in genre and looked like Wolvie in MIB during tunnel scene
5. Jackie Chan
6. Peter Weller and
7. Steven Seagal
and that's MY bottom line.
and HEY WHO THE HELL CAME UP WITH GLEN DANZIG?!? Really! Next somebody will say Rob Zombie will be playing Gambit! EVIL!!!
like take off!
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It's definitely Michael Ironside for me. I've thought it ever since "V" was first aired in the UK in the early eighties. I'm glad I'm not alone anymore.
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I was always under the impression that Glen Danzig was to play Wolvie. If not he should he is a perfect fit for the part
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Austin does have a good look and attitude for the Wolverine part, but the man cant do any serious acting. Yea, he can talk a lot of trash to McMahon and The Rock on WWF very well, but did you see him on 'Nash Bridges'?? Pheeeeuuw.
Incidentally, I liked the Chris Benoit idea but if we want to go with wrestlers my choice would be...the best Wolverine there is, the best Wolverine there was, and the best Woverine there ever will be. You know who I'm talkin' about, THE MAN Bret "The Hitman" Hart. He has the right pissed off attitude, is not too tall, has the right build, is aver 40 but looks mid 30s, and he sure has been pretty pissed off lately and he's Canadian too. I can picture him saying "Bub" without looking like a dork. -
What about Kurt Russell as Logan/Wolverine?
I think he would fit quiet nicely.
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Mel Gibson-Wolverine
Edward Norton-cyclops
Armand Assante-Beast Ian Mckellen-Pro. X
Wynona Ryder-Jubliee
Angelina Jolie-Rogue
Dave Chappele-Night Crawler
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Magneto-Nick Nolte
Toad-Sam Neil
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Ray Liotta? (sp)
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...Thanks for the here-here...I thought nobody noticed.
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With all the negative aura that is on this string I think that the X-Men project looks doomed. On the other hand though, as much as we b*tch, we'll probably all go and see it, regardless, just to attain our own personal opinions on it so that we can come back to AICN and bash the hell out of it. But truly, this movie has SO much potential. The X-Men have had such long and illustrious careers that this could possibly be a franchise only second in magnitude to the 007 Series. We have solid characters all around, though maybe not filled with the perfect actors, and a list of villians a mile long all with interesting and semi-original powers and backrounds. The potential is unbelievable, but as the subject line reads, hopefully Singer and Co. won't let the claws slip and come through with a total debacle.
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What does Harry have to say about this huh? I don't know anything about Russel Crowe but the sound of what movies he's done he sounds like one of the other Baldwin brothers. as for Glen Danzig he's ok as a rocker but as an actor? given he's done videos and a few cameo/walk-ons that don't mean he's gonna be able to handle a role like this. All I want to know about the Glen Rumour is where did that person get that BAD ACID so I don't run into it! the Best man for the job as the X-man's only rep from The Great White North is go down to the locale video rental joint and grab the following movies and watch them in the order I list them in.
1. Escape From New York
2. The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai
3. Big Trouble in Little China
and #4 Escape From LA
IF that's not good enough reason for Kurt to be wolvie I'll eat my copies of the Star Wars Special editions and chase it with the Metallica boxed set!
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Wolverine? He's gotta be Robert DeNiro. The shaggy-haired, pumped-up, and ticked-off Deniro from "Cape Fear".
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Okay, first of all a lot of you have to calm down. It is just a movie. Now as for person casting and movie thoughts...
Someone made a very good point, look at who the director is. Bryan Singer has an excellent performance record, both "Usual Suspect" and "Apt Pupil" were excellent films and had excellent perforamces from less than well known actors. Mr. Singer has stated repeatedly that he's intent on keeping this film true to the heart of x-men.
Now as for the actual casting, i think that before everyone names every actor alive someone should find out what the actually rosters going to be. I've hear Prof X, Magneto and Wolvie as definities but does anyone know about the rest? I agree that for the most part the cast should be unknowns. Just for the reason that the x-men are unknown, Prof X and Magneto (as a world endangering villian) are the most well known. I saw Patrict Stewart in "A Chirstmas Carole" and he was great. He had the audience eating out of his hand. That kind of power is perfect for Prof. X. I don't think Walken would make a good Magneto, he play most of his characters too phsyco. Oddly enough, I do think that Gabriel Byrne (Keaton in "Usual Suspects") would make a good Magneto, remember Magnus was a jew. But really this talkback thing has all been about wolverine so...
I've read the entire talk back thus far and the majority or the suggestions would have once been good. But the fact is most of them just aren't in the right shape for the film. I think possible the guy from "L.A. Confidental" or an unknown. Really though an unknown would be best. -
i only got through half of these things before i started saying to myself, "hey self, why do u keep seeing the same names over and over again?" i had no answer to give myself so i decided i'd throw in a fresh idea (at least i hope its fresh, remember i only got halfway through the muck). FRESH IDEA: the only way we fanboy comic nerdlings will be even close to complete agreement about the casting of Wolverine is if ILM jumps in and does a CGI character. after that, all we'd have to argue about is whether or not he SOUNDS canadian enough.
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Harvey Keitel is perfect for this role...he has the gruff
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While I would say that Russell Crowe is probably the perfect actor for the part, but Danzig has always looked like Wolverine to me. If anybody out there casting the film is actually going hrough all these posts (which would be a buit ridiculous), somebody needs to get ahold of Danzig and get him a screen test! If he can act, he'd be great.
In case all of you people are thinking, "Who the hell is this Danzig guy?"
there's a picture here (the best one that I could find, and noy very good anyway):
http://smg-webworks.com/MrBlond/danzig.htm
I am not a Danzig freak, but I am strongly in favor of this man being allowed to try out for the part of Wolverine.... -
People are gonna laugh at this one... (but fellow Canadians will probably like the idea), but I've gotta back Bret "The Hitman" Hart as Wolvie. He can act (though he's never done film work so he'll be a fresh face), he's acrobatic, and of course, he's Canadian. Maybe he's a little older than they're looking for (I think he's in his early 40's), but he doesn't look it.
Okay, everyone can fell free to tell me what a stupid idea it is now... Just thought it might be an interesting casting choice. -
To whoever it was that suggested Chris Benoit: I had actually thought of that myself, but I have to say that CB doesn't appear very comfortable on camera when he speaks- nothing wrong with that, just that what makes him great is his in-ring skill and not his mic work. Though I have to say, he certainly LOOKS the part. Bret Hart is very comfortable on the mic and seems a natural actor- plus he's older, and has that ragged look that I'd associate with Wolvie. But it's nice to know there's someone else thinking along the same lines as me...
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first and foremost i must say that the redneck unintellegent types are the same ones who ruin great potiential movies.
example:
Intellegent remark: Russel Crowe for Wolverine
Redneck rebuttle: russel who? fuck dat! bret the hitman heart! Yee haw! NWO!
Lesson to be learned, don't be a dumb as shit red neck , maybe actually rent La Confidential and see who this the GOOD actors whos names are being mentioned.
Oh yeah, and wrestling is pointless. Try reading a book.
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Russel Crowe? Glen Dazig? Deniro? Jack? I chaulk that up to both Bad Ideas and Bad acid!
Have ANY of them either done a major FX moive? hmm SUUUUUUR-VEY sez? No... sorry but you don't get to go to the BONUS ROUND!!
getting ALL 3 are the dang fool idjts that have said all of the following, Bret Hart, Raven and Benoit. Bret Hart COULDN'T EVEN pretend to be HIMSELF on the Honey I shrunk the kids show!
Raven? have you BEEN hanging out in the 70's with Cheech and Chong?? Are you stoned? Beniot? look at Benoit, and think man about these two words "Hollywood Hogan"! IF you reaaly want to get funny how about Rutger H? our Mike Dudekoff or Mark D. from the Crow tv series? common it's Kurt Russel and don't say Russel Crowe's a tough guy, IF you have ben paying attention you'd know to walk yourself to the video rental joint down the street and rent some movies. I will have to give examples of Kurt working on being wolverine
1. John Carpenter's The Thing
2. Escape From New York
3. Big Trouble in Little China
4. Escape From LA
5. Solider
what does all them movies have in common besides Kurt Russel? Well for the most part, Explosions, Warfare, special effects, John Carpenter and comic bookish stories.
What's that gotta do with Wolvie?
or the X-Men?
First of the movie IS BASED ON A COMIC, it will have FIGHTING! IT WILL have explosions
Special Effects , Warfare .
It's not a opionion it's LOGIC
BTW Stone Cold Steve Austin PINNED the Rock for the title -
First, wrestling is not a redneck thing. Maybe it used to be at one time, but wrestling has come along way. WCW may still cater to alot of rednecks, but the WWF is a much more an urban style of entertainment. Trust me I am not a redneck, and I highly enjoy watching the WWF. It is sports entertainment. However, I do agree with you that Bret Hart, and Benoit (WCW wrestlers) are horrible cast ideas for the X-men. Not because I don't believe some wretlers can act, but because I think Hart and benoit can't act. As a matter a fact, I think wrestling and Film should be kept seperate, and I will enjoy both. Only a few Wrestlers have the potential to move up into real big-time acting, that being Steve Austin, The Rock, and maybe a few others. However, Hogan tried this, and ended up making a bunch of "B" movies. SO once again, Wrestling is great, but I think most wrestlers should stay in the ring, and even some should give up trying to act in the ring as well. Bret Hart sucks and that's the bottom line, cuz Stone Cold said so!
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I hate to break this to everyone but Wolverine has what is described as enhanced human strength. That would make him super strong. And since there are no 5'5'' rugged actors, lets give up on the height thing and just hope for someone who can act. I think that Russell Crowe is the best man for the job right now.
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Have you guys ever seen Glenn Danzig? He's some sick bastard in a now defunct heavy metal band. Honest to God, if you have never seen him, this guy looks exactly like Wolverine and you wouldn't have to do anything but give him the costume. He is 5'3", about 180 pounds, and his hair is so close to Wolverine's. Yeah, he is an unknown but he is the closest thing you will ever find to resemble Wolverine. Let's not make another casting mistake like Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, and George Clooney as Batman. And God forbid, Nicholas Cage as Superman. What buttmunch casts these things?
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Though he was pretty buffed in desperate measures, i thought about michael keaton as logan? He has the right height and age to play wolverine, and i think he could make a decent wolverine. As far as the other mutants, stewart, or ben kingsley could be prof.X My choice for magneto would be christopher walken! Those are the only characters that i cannot see an 20-something actor play on screen. As far as the other mutants? I can see N'bushe wright as storm, Alicia witt as jean grey, Denise richards as rogue, and Edward norton as cyclops. And since this film is to start in july, it shouldn't be long before we hear who's been finally casted for those roles.
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At the risk of revealing one of my guilty pleasures, I think whoever is doing the casting for X-Men needs to look at a guy named Scott Levy for the role of Wolverine. Scott Levy is a professional wrestler who "plays" the character of "Raven" for Ted Turner's World Championship Wrestling. The first time I saw this guy I thought, "If they ever make an X-Men movie, he should be Wolverine." In fact, I would be interested in reading what our illustrious host Harry thinks of this guy. Levy is one of the few wrestlers with what they call good "mic" skills. Anyway, just my .02 worth.
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