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Johnny Vendeta gives us his thoughts on a test screening of Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN!!!

Published at: June 20, 2007, 1:19 p.m. CST by headgeek

Hey folks, Harry here... Quint announces he's headed to London and they decide to test screen Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN. This can't be mere chance... or is it? Heh. Well, I know a positive review of Zombie's HALLOWEEN is going to cause many cries of plant - but reading Johnny Vendeta's review makes a lot of sense. For one - he's got the details right, based off the script I read. AND - the criticism for a lack of suspense due to the extreme focus on Michael's character... rings very true, but the reaction to the film shifting from an atmospheric suspense horror slasher film to a more brutal action horror film - feels like what Rob Zombie was intending from the direction the script went in. I'm just glad that it seems to be on a good track - although personally... I wish Zombie had created his own slasher character and left remakes alone. He can generate amazing original material, and I hope after this, that that's the direction he goes in. Here's Johnny's review...

Hello Harry, This is the first time that I have ever written a review for your site. Hopefully your review of my review won't be harsh, but here it goes.... Last night, I had the pleasure of being invited to see one of the first screenings of Rob Zombie's 'Halloween' last night on 34th Street in NYC. First, let me start off by saying that I LOVED John Carpenter's original 'Halloween'. The original is a classic and each following sequel had exponentially decreased in quality. But the character is a classic. Freddy is too humorous. Jason is a rip-off of Michael. Chucky is just ridiculous. Michael is the only horror villain whom, if I was in his line of sight, I would probably be paralyzed in terror. Onto the movie. It was a rough cut. They said the sound and picture would be a bit off. The picture was great. They used John Carpenter's original score and Blue Oyster Cult's 'Don't Fear The Reaper'. (Minor Spoilers Ahead) The film opens with Michael as a young boy living with his family. He had already begun torturing and killing several pets. This doesn't jar his family. After the school's principal finds photo's of dead animals in Michael's desk, questions directed towards Michael's mother regarding this issue ensue. The solution of psychiatric help is brought up. Enter Dr. Loomis, brilliantly played by Malcolm McDowell. Michael then begins to up his game and seek revenge out on a school boy, who had previously tormented the hell out of him. Michael then stays home on the night of Halloween and goes on a murderous rampage in his house. That's right, not just his sister Judith (played by the grown up 'Jenny' from Forrest Gump) meets her demise. The result is brutal. Michael is then sent off to an asylum receiving several visits from the child psychiatrist, Dr. Loomis. Fifteen years later, Michael breaks out of the asylum and heads 100 miles toward Haddonfield to go on another killing rampage on Halloween again to find his younger sister, Laurie. The actress who plays Laurie is pretty good (Jamie Lee Curtis is a tough act to follow), but not enough time is really spent with her character. I felt as though Rob Zombie wanted to cut to the chase and bring us Michael in top form on Halloween night. The fate of some characters are different. The scene at the very end of the teaser trailer IS in the movie, sans the girls top clothing. I won't give much more away. The Pros: - The beginning. The brutality of what young Michael unleashes is pretty damn brutally effective. - Adult Michael KICKS ASS. He beats the living sh*t out of people...literally. He's back and he's more brutal than before. - When Michael finally confronts Laurie, it is INTENSE. - Supporting characters: Malcolm McDowell is very good. He's humorous and just so damn real. Brad Dourif is great as Chief Brackett. Danny Trejo and his sideburns...has a nice cameo. - The first introduction of the mask is really CREEPY. The Cons: - Lack of suspense. A huge element of what made the original 'Halloween' work was it's suspense. In the remake, Michael is on screen for a majority of the film. You know where he is in almost every scene and you can guess at what he is about to do. What else is he gonna do? Bake a cake? - In some scenes when Michael is attacking a character, the camera shakes like hell. I felt like I was watching the Bourne Supremacy. - The rape of a character. Enough said. - The very ending. After the film was over, I wasn't terrified like the original. Brief flashbacks to when Michael and Laurie were kids contribute to that lack of terror. As a huge fan of the original, I did enjoy the movie. It never dragged. It was shocking and there are many surprises. The dialog is just what you'd expect from a Rob Zombie film. This is Rob Zombie's 'Halloween'. He took away most of the suspense, but brought us more relentless action. Bring us another one, Rob. 7 out of 10 Johnny Vendeta

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  • June 20, 2007, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Ugh

    by Mister Man

    Ugh

  • June 20, 2007, 1:25 p.m. CST

    This year....Halloween...comes early!!!

    by Lando Griffin

    August 31st that is. That makes sense right. I can do the ads for them.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Hostel 2 all over again?

    by Tripman5000

    When neagtive reviews of that on workprint were sent it,we were told that AICN would not accept them,now a positivie review of what is basically a workprint is sent in of Halloween,it's printed for all to see. Someone want to be friends with Rob Zombie then? I don't care HOW the viewing was arranged,it's still double standards in my eyes...

  • June 20, 2007, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Everytime hollywood films a remake...

    by Milkyfresh

    ...God kills a kitten.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Damn typos.

    by Tripman5000

    Give us an `edit` button,pleeeeease!

  • June 20, 2007, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Yo

    by Lewish

    Where's the Reginald VelJohnson cameo at?!

  • June 20, 2007, 1:30 p.m. CST

    It doesn't sound that bad.

    by thecommoncold368

    It doesn't sound that bad. From the review it is what I expected from Zombie.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:30 p.m. CST

    I'll Netflix it

    by SithMenace

    probably not like it, and then just watch the original again.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:31 p.m. CST

    The new Hollywood definition of horror

    by WhiteNnerdy

    Brutal and gory action flicks passed off as horror films aren't scary. Someone please give us suspense and terror like the original Halloween.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Myers rapes someone?

    by Fridge

    I don't know what's worse, him talking through the mask or raping chicks as an adult. This is "Halloween" Rob, not "The Devil's Rejects 2".

  • June 20, 2007, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Rape of a character

    by Lando Griffin

    Is that figuratively or literally?

  • June 20, 2007, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Michael doesn't rape anyone

    by Banshee7

    It's the scumbag orderly and his brother at the mental institution. They rape a female inmate in front of Myers. Needless to say ol'Michael don't take too kindly to that.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Michael rapes someone?

    by mr teaspoon

    And am I the only one who caught "Last night, I had the pleasure...last night on 34th Street in NYC" and "The brutality of what young Michael unleashes is pretty damn brutally effective"?

  • June 20, 2007, 1:44 p.m. CST

    i'll watch it but i wont be happy doing it....

    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    and i just spilled my coffee god dammit .......

  • June 20, 2007, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Planty Mcplantville

    by HitchCock'n'Balz

    somebody had to say it

  • June 20, 2007, 1:45 p.m. CST

    When this comes out I'll watch the original on dvd

    by andrew coleman

    This is exactly like the psycho remake, pointless and somehow even though everything was set up for it lacks suspense. When will Hollywood learn it's about suspense not gore that makes things scary. Go 1408 I hope that movie kicks ass.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:45 p.m. CST

    (gunshot) YOU ROB ZOMBIE ! ! !

    by Pound Sand

    What about the GTAS Mask?

  • June 20, 2007, 1:46 p.m. CST

    I think the clip with Siskel and Ebert was...

    by mrfan

    great. They explained it perfectly.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:46 p.m. CST

    So John Carpenter DOES have a cameo

    by The Grey Ghost

    ... He's the character getting raped.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:54 p.m. CST

    What about the music?

    by Kirbymanly

    I know this was a test screening.... but does it use the original theme at all?

  • June 20, 2007, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Yippee Kai Yay. . .

    by cdubbs727

    Yippee Kai Yay Gotta Shit Mask!!

  • June 20, 2007, 1:56 p.m. CST

    So that was a William Shatner mask, right?

    by TheAFLACDuck

    Now that's ghastlier than a thousand ghouls!

  • June 20, 2007, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Sounds every bit the piece of dog shit that I expected

    by TORTURE PWN

    Only this dipshit thinks the idiocy of it is a "pro".

  • June 20, 2007, 2:02 p.m. CST

    So the Doctor rapes Michael or...........

    by Stuntcock Mike

    ah fuck it. PLANT!!

  • June 20, 2007, 2:04 p.m. CST

    A rape scene in Halloween =

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Vince Vaughn's jackoff scene in the new version of Psycho. But I hope what was said above is correct, that Michael is not the rapist. Cuz that would be really gay. Everything else sounds okay. Does he really talk through the mask? I so don't want that. But if they spent a lot more time on the childhood angle, then yeah the movie should be longer to give Laurie some exposition. And it is very true that brutality does not equal suspense or horror, so I hope Zombie at least strikes a balance. In today's world, we see so much brutality in real life that there's not much we'll get squeamish about. Far better do go the Carpenter route and make some genuine suspense.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Haven't seen any of Zombie's films

    by Spandau Belly

    This will be my first. Maybe he'll direct the next James Bond.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:08 p.m. CST

    We all hope the rape is not...

    by Abominable Snowcone

    ...that of Rob Zombie taking our youth--in the form of Carpenter's original movie--from behind, and plugging away. I so don't want this to be the George Lucas of horror

  • June 20, 2007, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Rape!? What, is George Lucas in this?

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Had to be said.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Rape scene

    by Darth Melkor

    Michael doesn't rape anyone. An orderly rapes someone at the Nuthouse, and Michael gets away cause he's too busy raping to be paying attention.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Soylent

    by Abominable Snowcone

    I take your point, but really, have any of Zombie's movies done that well at the box office? I haven't seen any, in the theater or otherwise. So my guess is if Halloween does well, it's because it IS Halloween with Michael Myers and not because it's a Rob Zombie movie. The studio guys must realize that, so I don't know why they think it would be a good test of Zombie's meddle.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Fuck this steaming pile of dog shit.

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    I don't need to see this to know that it should not have ever been made to begin with and no shit that the movie is not as terrifying. The 1st one was because it was ORIGINAL. This is nothing more then another cheap ploy of Hollywood goons to cash in on the feeble simple minded movie goer in America who will gladly spoon out their hard earned cash on a shit bucket remake that takes away from a classic. Want to see Halloween? Rent the fucking original and DO NOT give Hollywood your money on this flaming turd.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Oh, yeah, that happens to me all the time

    by Abominable Snowcone

    In fact, that's how I escaped. Some dude was raping an invalid at the hospital, so I said, "Feets don't fail me now." And what do you know, I've been working here for fifteen years

  • June 20, 2007, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Fuck Hostel!

    by Atticus Finch

    Hopefully the hack Eli Roth takes some notes so he can learn to make a film that doesn't suck.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Kirbymanly

    by Abominable Snowcone

    I heard that the music wasn't finished for the test screening, so they used music from "Addams Family Values" instead. Because Michael is "creepy, and he's kooky, scary and spooky... (snap, snap)." I'm sort of wishing this movie existed in some physical form that would fit in my toilet, so I could make foul upon it

  • June 20, 2007, 2:22 p.m. CST

    HALLOWEEN WILL SUCK LIKE THIS SUMMER!!!

    by ludmir88

    no .. sorry i'm just pissed for the LFODH review.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:22 p.m. CST

    He LITERALLY kicks the shit out of people?

    by godoffireinhell

    As in he kicks them and they graphically poop in their pants with turds falling out of the pants legs? That'd make my day.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Fuck rob zombie!

    by TORTURE PWN

    Maybe he can take some notes from Eli Roth and learn to make a movie,PERIOD.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Sounds promising

    by kilik777

    Im sure ill give it a chance but I doubt it will be even close to being the classic the orignial was. I hated the Devil Rejects so I hope its not similar in tone to that movie at all. http://tinyurl.com/pv8do

  • June 20, 2007, 2:28 p.m. CST

    I'll be checking it out!

    by the darkman

    I'm a big fan of the original, but I'm giving Zombie a chance here. I know it won't be a copy of the original, and that's what makes it easier for me to take. If it ends up sucking then it won't even tarnish Carpenter's film. Speaking of Carpenter, the man has to get back to film making, and stop fucking around with the master of horror thing. WE need a new film from you JC.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Don't (gunshot) Care anymore...

    by MetaFreePhorAll

    Although AbominableSnowcone's comment that he 'wished to make foul upon it' made me smile - it's been a kinda meh day for genre films. And for God's sake, would everyone just stop talking about Hostel 2! We get it! They plugged it to death and it did poorly at the box office! Okay! Oh, and it sounds like a decent movie. One I won't be watching a whole lot - but I'll see it in theaters to see Malcolm McDowell as Loomis. Super-giddy about that one, I am.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:29 p.m. CST

    A rape scene??!!??!!

    by Mike_D

    If Michael Myers rapes Laurie Strode, I'm gonna pee all over the movie screen.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:30 p.m. CST

    halloween minus the suspense

    by lionbiu

    halloween minus the suspense = generic slasher flick. Dont like the sound of this at all.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Get Your Tickets Now

    by bobbyjoe

    Little suspense, lots of brutality, a rape, and an attempt to explain the villain with a look back at his childhood. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the current state of the horror film in the first decade of the new century.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:33 p.m. CST

    The character that gets raped...

    by rev_skarekroe

    ...is your childhood.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:34 p.m. CST

    I think the rape scene is..

    by mrfan

    Zombie raping my childhood. Just wait. If there is a rape scene Zombie will have a cameo giving a thumbs up.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Hostel of 1,000 Corpses

    by Spandau Belly

    Maybe Roth and Zombie can team up and learn from each other!

  • June 20, 2007, 2:39 p.m. CST

    This still sounds like a load of (gunshot) crap.

    by Catnip_Thieves

    It's the crazy talkback phrase everyone's just bustin' to use!

  • June 20, 2007, 2:40 p.m. CST

    rob zombie's a phony and a hack.

    by TORTURE PWN

    That's all the world needs is some asshole ripping off every cookie-cutter slasher film and applying it to the name HALLOWEEN,when at one time it was the other way around...as it should be.The last time zombie had an original bone in his body was the last time he bent over in front of his hillbilly,carny-folk daddy.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Why deos a rape scene ruin the movie?

    by Kizeesh

    Seriously? I don't get it

  • June 20, 2007, 2:54 p.m. CST

    So Michael is a redneck psycho...

    by spud mcspud

    Nothing at all like 1000 CORPSES or DEVIL'S REJECTS then.<P> Sounds like everyone who likes Zombie's other stuff will like this movie.<P> If you thought Zombie was capable of more than just redneck psycho/TCM clones... this ain't gonna be the movie to prove it, by the sound of it.<P> FUCK YOU ROB ZOMBIE!!!

  • June 20, 2007, 2:54 p.m. CST

    bobbyjoe is right

    by WhiteNnerdy

    explaining the villain with logical thought ain't cool. Scary stuff is stuff you don't understand or sympathize with. That said, I'm still curious about this film, and will probably see it on dvd. I just don't want to call it horror. It's more of a History Channel piece on Michael Myers with re-inactments of some of his acts of horror.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Too bad the new mask isn't made by Silver Shamrock.

    by Nice Marmot

    Bad dum bum DSSSHHH!!! Seriously though, Zombie blows & Roth swallows.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:04 p.m. CST

    SHIT MASK GOTTA EAT

    by Stuntcock Mike

    John Carpenter is laughing his ass off at this one. What's next, "Lee Tamahori's Big Trouble in Little China?"

  • June 20, 2007, 3:07 p.m. CST

    hopefully someone will leak this to the internets

    by wash

    And the target audience for this will decide to spend their money on more important things like ringtones and rubbers.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Next up: Green day remakes Footloose.

    by Diagnostic

    meh.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:09 p.m. CST

    another make-up/fx demo reel posing as film

    by ScamsAndFlams

    horror is dead and you all know it. these no-talent fucks are taking all of the mystery, suspense, comedy, and supernatural elements out of horror and instead filming 2-hour clinics on how to make curbing look realistic.<br><br>only sociopaths enjoy these movies, and there are a lot of them in "first-world" societies. do you mouth-breathers like putting cats in driers and hamsters in the microwave, too? this tripe is neither art nor entertainment for rational, socialized, adjusted human beings. think that's too hyperbolic? you're wrong.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:10 p.m. CST

    best thing about this movie

    by tonamania

    is Malcolm Mcdowell, which is a mixed blessing cause the guy's the dramatic version of Gilbert Gottfried. Reviewer's a plant. I might actually be interested in this if it were called "Just Another Slasher Movie", but I hate this whole reboot thing. Just checked out Zombie's "credits" on IMDB. Real crap.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Whatever happened to the good horror flicks

    by veritasses

    that F'd with your mind instead of just plastering you with senseless violence and gore?

  • June 20, 2007, 3:12 p.m. CST

    a thought

    by tonamania

    so if he really pummels people, that means he's really ripping off Jason (who's really ripping off the original Mike Myers)?

  • June 20, 2007, 3:14 p.m. CST

    veritasses

    by tonamania

    1408 - kinda' sorta'

  • June 20, 2007, 3:15 p.m. CST

    ACTUALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS

    by THE KNIGHT

    Even though it sounds... ehhh..

  • June 20, 2007, 3:16 p.m. CST

    What "amazing original material" can Cummings generate?

    by Stalin vs Predator

    That syphilitic "film" with corpses in the title? Or the carcass of its sequel? Hopefully a workprint of this leaks and it makes half as much as Hostel II.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:17 p.m. CST

    this sucks

    by tonamania

    any good (new) talkbacks about Bayformers, or Sin City 2/3, or about how the Joker's makeup is white instead of off-white?

  • June 20, 2007, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Hate on the Zombie all you want...

    by C00L DUD3

    ...you KNOW there's no way this can be any worse than H20...I'm actually really looking forward to this AND can't say that I'm a fan of, or have even seen any of his other films.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:22 p.m. CST

    I would rather see H20 than this movie

    by ScamsAndFlams

    And I've already seen H20, and I know it's awful. I would rather have fifty H20s and Valentines and Freddy vs. Jasons every single year than one more of these pathetic brutality films. These movies are not horror, they are simply voyeuristic portrayals of graphic brutality. There IS a difference.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:22 p.m. CST

    This could be good as long as...

    by jojo-pimp

    Micheal Myers isnt the one raping anyone. I wonder if they mean that micheal gets raped as a small boy or like the one poster said, someone gets raped in the hospital which allows micheal to escape.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Yippy ki-yay, monkey feeder!

    by Abominable Snowcone

    If you so much as lay one FINGER on my DAUGHTER, I swear to god I'll FRISK your FILTHY ass, you MISTERFINGER YOU!!

  • June 20, 2007, 3:37 p.m. CST

    It would be funny if...

    by Abominable Snowcone

    ...the hospital orderly rapist were busy doing his thing, and he starts moaning, and says "Oh, Jesus, I'm gonna come!"<p> And Mike says, "In that case, I'm gonna GO! Feets don't fail me now! Woop woop woop!"

  • June 20, 2007, 3:38 p.m. CST

    This would've been a mediocre and derivitive slasher

    by TORTURE PWN

    film AT BEST were it something besides HALLOWEEN.Using that name just adds to the shit pile on the name. It doesn't erase it.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Maybe Rob can remake Psycho now

    by Bash_Branigan

    The chair can spin around and an undead Momma can eviscerate the intruder.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:39 p.m. CST

    hahah zombie as a director

    by haitu

    ...hahahhahahaah... stick to crappy techno buddy.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:41 p.m. CST

    finally

    by eatwheatbread

    gay vito rapes finn

  • June 20, 2007, 3:41 p.m. CST

    What do you expect?

    by MJAYACE

    The only reason this guy gets to make these movies is because he had some cool rock music. I hated those crapticles that were House of 1000 Corpses and Devils Rejects. Plus the original wasn't that good in my opinion.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:44 p.m. CST

    So, yeah...

    by Kid Z

    ... Figured it was gonna suck. Can't Zombie start doing music again? Liked his tunes... they were kick-ass. Maybe suck is too harsh, but I won't be seeing it... have too much respect for the original... sorry.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Damn you people!

    by Jak0lantern01

    You peeps jump all over every single damn movie like a rabid pack of wolves. Like any of you could produce a better product, you haven't even seen the damn film yet. You get bits and pieces of old, leaked scripts, and shit yourselves every single time. Halloween? Transformers? PG-13 Die Hard? Not one single movie is that has anything to do with your pathetic little past lives is good enough. How much does anyone want to bet a good portion of you haters go to see these movies anyway? Do your mother not wipe your rear ends well enough after you shit? A lot of you should get off the internet and get into a new hobby, LIKE FILMMAKING. Then you can all prove your mettle with the high class, original and imaginitive films you can produce. Sorry about the rant, but the level of perpetual negativity from the same people day in and day out is sickening. Whether it was Rob Zombie or not, you were getting your remake. Better that than the Michael vs. Pinhead garbage that was being thrown around. And at least Zombie has the balls to do it his way, not just another generic rehash of the original. Thank you for your time.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:47 p.m. CST

    By the way....

    by Jak0lantern01

    The Devil's Rejects rocked.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Devils rejects was a fantastic film, and although

    by bongo123

    i love the original and pretty much all of Carpenter's early films, remakes of his films arn't gonna send my knickers in a twist like so many of the crazies on this website, its good to see old movies updated heck my fav film of all time, the Thing is getting remade and im seriously looking forward to seeing a shape shifting alien run riot in some ice station, these remakes never tarnish the originals they just give us a chance to see cool stories retold again.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:53 p.m. CST

    The original halloween was

    by huggerorange

    The original halloween was cool back in the day but now it is terribly hard to rewatch. It drags for so long..I cant imagine how you could not have suspense when a movie drags on and on like that. Rob zombies version is sounding really good right now. It cant be as terrible as the curse of michael myers

  • June 20, 2007, 3:59 p.m. CST

    I'm not fond of remakes myself

    by Jak0lantern01

    Most fail miserably. JC's The Thing is great, though, whereas a remake of The Fog I could not sit through 5 minutes, and the Chainsaw remake, where it was not terrible, they did drop the ball on it overall. The original Halloween is one of my all-time favorites, without question, only behind Jaws. I wasn't thrilled with it being remade, but I'm happy with the different angle on the whole thing. We already saw Halloween, now it's time for something new if it has to be done. Oh, and speaking of Jaws, just remember that Spielberg's version deviated heavily from the book. I smell another remake.......

  • June 20, 2007, 4 p.m. CST

    This positive review has dampened my enthusiasm.

    by Homer Sexual

    I was so eager to see this after the preview shown before "28 Weeks Later." But this doesn't sound so hot. 1,000 Corpses was just hideous. And, I actually love gore, but not torture porn. I had hoped for a gory scarefest, but will we get a tedious torture marathon?

  • June 20, 2007, 4:05 p.m. CST

    The Thing remake is coming

    by ebolamonkey

    With all the cheap ass morph effects Hollywood can buy. I can hear the director now: "This time the Thing is fast moving, really scary - it doesn't need to hide - instead it just slaughters everybody. Fortunately there's a squad of heavily armed marines stationed in the Antarctic that get sent to investigate."

  • June 20, 2007, 4:07 p.m. CST

    hating rape scenes more and more...

    by Judge Briggs

    after watching Hills Have Eyes and Itchy the Killer (Worst fucking movie in such a long ass time), I am now getting really annoyed about seeing graphic rape scenes in movies. they are just so brutal and sick. i really hope the rape scene isn't graphic... just ain't needed in this movie!

  • June 20, 2007, 4:09 p.m. CST

    It sounds liked expected it to be...

    by Gatack

    Of course I need to see it for myself but this sounds like I was expecting. Rob doesn't know nuance. This is pretty much what I was expecting. At least I can say that the trailer was cool. Oh well, Carpenter has his check. http://tinyurl.com/23fzv5

  • June 20, 2007, 4:13 p.m. CST

    If they could make a Jaws

    by huggerorange

    If they could make a Jaws that has the suspense and that claustrophobia feeling the original left you with... I wouldnt mind a Jaws remake. As long as they dont give us some fucking hollow- MTV- cultured version like most horror films today, Im all for it. The one thing a Jaws remake could use is more horror and gore as i think the original lacked. Please...no more Jaws in the bahamas.

  • June 20, 2007, 4:13 p.m. CST

    halloween without suspense =

    by lionbiu

    halloween without suspense = SHIT. I don't like what I am hearing at all and I am not a huge fan of the original Halloween (its good but does not hold up well and some of the charcters are just too stupid)

  • June 20, 2007, 4:13 p.m. CST

    ill see this for malcolm mcdowell only

    by Spacesheik

    he rocks

  • June 20, 2007, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Torture Pwn

    by ScamsAndFlams

    Weren't you the king of the torture porn loving douchebags defending that pile called Hostel 2? Given your standards of "taste", shouldn't you love this new zombie movie?

  • June 20, 2007, 4:24 p.m. CST

    But...

    by McClane_Corleone

    But will there be dead raped deer?

  • June 20, 2007, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Remember when Rob was bitching about Halloween toys?

    by BitterMan23

    How it was no longer scary because you could go buy a Michael Myers doll that played the Halloween theme??<br> <br> Well lookee what we have here:<br> <br> ROB ZOMBIE'S HALLOWEEN — MICHAEL MEYERS WITH SOUND 18-INCH ACTION FIGURE He's the man behind the mask that's going to swallow your soul. He is pure evil, and you'll see him in the Rob Zombie re-make of Halloween. But you'll see him in your future nightmares if you pick up this 18" tall action figure that has Michael come with 2 knives, and a motion-activated sensor that gives him the power of audio! Scheduled to ship in September 2007. (6338/60701)

  • June 20, 2007, 4:25 p.m. CST

    hmm

    by McClane_Corleone

    What if we have Paul Anderson remake Star Wars? After that we can have Michael Bay do Jaws and Brett Ratner can do a remake of Raiders of the Lost Ark. That would be great. I can't wait until we see Uwe Boll's vision of the Excorcist.

  • June 20, 2007, 4:28 p.m. CST

    not halloweeny enough!!!

    by the_man_from_Rio

    kurt russell did laugh at the rape scene...that's when i knew it was ok to laugh too.

  • June 20, 2007, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Nipples on Michael Myers=Flames on Jaimie Lee's mangina

    by Gotta Eat Mancats

    you know this to be true

  • June 20, 2007, 4:40 p.m. CST

    7 year old Michael Myers raping Jenny=Shia fucking cats

    by Gotta Eat Mancats

  • June 20, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Sounds boring....

    by Cleyu

    Just another slasher that rips Haloween off.

  • June 20, 2007, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Yawnnnnnnnn

    by livrule

    This will be warming the budget DVD shelf in 12 months time ..... ALL remakes are crap!

  • June 20, 2007, 4:51 p.m. CST

    NO JAWS REMAKE!!!!

    by eric haislar

    Please let that idea die hear. That is a perfect film please do not let its good name be raped.

  • June 20, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    People are raped in real life and that doesn't ruin...

    by performingmonkey

    ...wait a minute...it DOES ruin people's lives, so I suppose it CAN ruin a movie. Usually rapes are in movies just to satisfy some kind of fucked up fantasy of the director and/or the writers. Either that or it's because they don't have the balls to make a great flick so they have to resort to a rape to try and merit the 'horror' tag.

  • June 20, 2007, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Taking it up a notch...

    by emptystan

    Clearly Rob Zombie's really trying to take this movie to the next level. Who needs "suspense" in our Ritalin addicted age. By eliminating that wasted time, Rob Zombie can give us what we really want, a killer who can hit you so hard you shit yourself. Yup, what's more terrifying than that? The new tag line should be "The night he came home... and hit some fool so hard they pooped."

  • June 20, 2007, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Is Danielle Harris naked in it?

    by guerillakarma

    Because why else see this?

  • June 20, 2007, 4:57 p.m. CST

    TRICK-OR-TREAT, MOTHERFUCKA!

    by HueyFreeman

    Any chance of a Busta Rhymes cameo here?

  • June 20, 2007, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Jaws remake

    by Kamala

    It needs to be done, now! People want to see a great CGI Shark eat Quint and split him in two. GO CGI SHARK!

  • June 20, 2007, 4:59 p.m. CST

    JOKER LINES IN THE DARK KNIGHT!!

    by connor187

    This town, to put it simply, does not need a figure of justice. It craves a silhouette of injustice, in order to survive.

  • June 20, 2007, 5:03 p.m. CST

    so michael kills two rapists?

    by slappy jones

    i hate that kind of shit....it is the type of thing that is done to make us kind of like myers....he maybe a murderer but he hates rapists...yay for mike....the more i hear of this the more i fear it...for the record i locve zombies films.....i am not a hater...i fucking love rejects and corpses....

  • June 20, 2007, 5:08 p.m. CST

    DAWN of the DEAD remake

    by zooch

    This looks like it's going for a more INTENSE, HARDCORE Halloween film! The rape scene sounds intriguing. I like where Zombie is going with this. The Dawn of the Dead remake had alot less suspense, but made up for it in intense zombie action. It's not going to be like the original Halloween, it can't be, so forget that right now.

  • June 20, 2007, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Yes, Danielle Harris is topless in this.

    by Banshee7

    She keeps her skirt and leggings on though.

  • June 20, 2007, 5:26 p.m. CST

    scams and flams,two different movies

    by TORTURE PWN

    two different filmmakers.If you can't tell them apart,that's your own ignorance talking.If you spent as much time watching the type of movie you like bitching about and ridiculing the fans of,maybe you could tell the difference too.

  • June 20, 2007, 5:29 p.m. CST

    soylentmean

    by Admiral Kirk

    I have a mancala set right here next to me- not hidden in a crevice of my body but it is close by- someone gave this thing to us way back and we actually played it one night- I wonder if they will explain how he's indestructable in this one. I guess torturing cats gave him invulnerability.

  • June 20, 2007, 5:37 p.m. CST

    The Thing isn't a remake it's an adaption

    by TORTURE PWN

    of a short story.It's not based on the earlier Hawks/Nyby movie.Now that you know better you can stop using it your "BuTt dis Myt beE gooD tOo..." arguements.Or you can just stay stupid.You're funnier that way.

  • June 20, 2007, 5:39 p.m. CST

    OH MAN!!!!

    by BRUTICUS

    Is it possoble for Zombie to lure me into watching another one of his movies? CAN HE DO IT? I VOWED to never do it again after Devils rejects I mean. 1000 corpses was bad enough but Rejects just pissed me off.<p><p><p>Hopefully the poster can come back and tel us if it has any of that camp foolishness that is in Zombies prior 2 flicks.

  • June 20, 2007, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Michael raping someone feels right

    by la_sith

    Aside from Danielle Harris taking her top off, I have no interest.

  • June 20, 2007, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Any of you watched Halloween lately?

    by BRUTICUS

    I did it is fucking boring, not nearly as scary as Friday 13th. It actually sucked. I just liked the third one when those kids had bugs comin outta their eyes.

  • June 20, 2007, 5:44 p.m. CST

    RAPE SCENE NEEDS TOM ATKINS

    by la_sith

    "STOP IIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!!!!!!!"

  • June 20, 2007, 5:48 p.m. CST

    I'll see this-- but I'd prefer a Rob Z Friday the 13th

    by ZeroCorpse

    Just imagine how sick he could make Jason. Or hell, his version of Nightmare on Elm Street might have some balls, unlike the last few of the series (Freddy vs. Jason not included. I liked that one.) <p> Better yet: ROB ZOMBIE'S EVIL DEAD 4.

  • June 20, 2007, 5:53 p.m. CST

    How about

    by Admiral Kirk

    Sam Raimi's Evil Dead 4?

  • June 20, 2007, 6:11 p.m. CST

    I said it before..I'll say it again..

    by skimn

    He did okay by Christine....give John Carpenter Stephen King's "Cell".......OKAY??!!

  • June 20, 2007, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Can I Just Say One Thing?

    by Mr. Winston

    The reviewer claims that Michael Myers is the only horror movie villain that would paralyze him with fear. <br> <br> Hey, maybe I'm a huge pussy...but Freddy was a fucking walking burn victim with knives that came out of his fucking fingers. I can punch a dude in a white mask. A guy with hand-mounted cutlery that can infiltrate my dreams? Not only would I be paralyzed with fear, but there would be an automatic, unconscious bowel release unlike anything the world has ever seen. <br> <br> As for the movie...I don't know, I'm on the fence about this one. I like the idea of following a maniac from his early years, especially if those early years are THAT fucked up, but I don't like it being Michael Myers. I won't write this off, but I always thought that the most horrifying aspect of the original franchise was wondering just what the hell propelled this guy to be such a carnivorous dick.

  • June 20, 2007, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Meyers has the advantage

    by JackTheMime

    It only took Freddy two movies or so to become a wisecracking douchebag. Michael never cracked wise. Not that he's much better, though. Just look at Halloween 5. Motherfucker spent half the movie standing in the park. You'd think somebody would report his ass. Then he cried at the end. God, that movie was shit.

  • June 20, 2007, 6:35 p.m. CST

    holy fuck. i just got back from witnessing FF2 AND

    by future help

    what a fuckin' piece of shit that was!!!!! WORSE THAN THE FIRST. fuck you Zombie.

  • June 20, 2007, 6:36 p.m. CST

    and someone siad before: I DID'NT WORK for VADER.

    by future help

    that's right.

  • June 20, 2007, 6:37 p.m. CST

    IT DIDN"T WORK FOR VADER.

    by future help

    oops

  • June 20, 2007, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Rob Zombie sucks

    by Bruno Diaz

    this project sucks. His air-brushed pop metal crap music sucks. Can we stop pretending he's some kind of relevant filmmaker? Screw this guy.

  • June 20, 2007, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Wait... what the fuck???

    by Mr_Deadite

    This isn't a John From Cincinnati talkback!

  • June 20, 2007, 6:51 p.m. CST

    THIS YEAR'S LITTLE MISS REMAKE CRAP!

    by Err

    First the Omen, now this. UGH!

  • June 20, 2007, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Laurie wasn't Michael's sister in HALLOWEEN

    by Charles Grady

    Total last-act bullshit Carpenter and Hill pulled out of a hat to liven up Halloween II, but absolutely no sign of it or need for it in the original. Funny, then, that it would because the major plot focal point of every Myers sequel, and now this remake. Why does Laurie need to be related to MM? Isn't it scarier that he'd single her out at seeming randon, as in the 1978 movie???

  • June 20, 2007, 7:26 p.m. CST

    The Thing is not a remake ...

    by livrule

    the end.

  • June 20, 2007, 7:51 p.m. CST

    I’ve got a fever! And the only prescription is…

    by screamster101

    more cowbell! Don't Fear the F'n Reaper, eh?!?!? I'm hooked. Oh yeah... God Bless Christopher Walken. BTW - I read the script also and loved it.

  • June 20, 2007, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Yawn--wait, Danielle Harris pops her top?

    by thegreatwhatzit

    Actually, that's my sole interest in regard to this remake. Zombie is a hack (compared to Eli Roth, however, he's Orson Welles). Tranforming the Michael Myers character from an enigma to a sadist is the formulaic tract of all derivative horror movies (perhaps prompted by the misguided obsession for Zombie to throw his wife a role). Brutality, rape and cliched flashbacks are Zombie's embellishments over the original? Pass. Incidentally, in reply to one of the above inquiries, Zombie has not yet made a profitable movie (theatrical films tanked, perhaps DVD sales recouped the investments).

  • June 20, 2007, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Rape Scene *SPOILER*!!!

    by screamster101

    SPOLIERS AHEAD!!!!!The rape scene is not done by michael. It is done by 2 security guys at smith's grove. They rape a mental patient and try to get michael to do the same. He decides to kill them instead of taking part. Pretty damn sick.

  • June 20, 2007, 8:09 p.m. CST

    IT DIDN'T WORK FOR HANNIBAL EITHER

    by TORTURE PWN

    Just had to add that...

  • June 20, 2007, 8:20 p.m. CST

    "He literally beats the living shit out of people"???

    by Womb2dooM

    So he beats up somebody until they poo live feces?! Do they breathe our oxygen or do they die shortly after evacuating their shitless corpse vessel? What language do they speak? Do they come in peace or pieces?<P>Seriously, people - LEARN the definition of "literal". I beg you! I cannot count the times that supposed professional journalists (I'm not including this reviewer) misappropriate the use of this word. It eats me up inside. E.g. "All hell is literally going to break out!"<P>In relation to the main article - I am not so emotionally connected to this franchise that I will not be able to enjoy myself even if it is entertaining. Actually "origin" stories bug me far more then remakes. At the most, that shit belongs as a supplementary feature on a DVD right next to the "How'd They Do That" make up doco.

  • June 20, 2007, 8:36 p.m. CST

    ROB ZOMBIE'S Miracle on 34th Street

    by Nate Champion

    Now that's a fucking remake I'd love to see.

  • June 20, 2007, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Does LeBouf mean "the fart" in French?

    by exofficersmith

    I was just wondering.

  • June 20, 2007, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Megatron rapes Shia LeBoof

    by INWOsuxRED

    Every movie this year has a rape scene in it. Halloween has a scene where Meyers puts on his "attempted to get raped" mask, and the comedy ensues. Whats not to like about that? Is there any other site that trolls its visitors as much as AICN?

  • June 20, 2007, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Pretty sad when even the PLANTS give

    by TORTURE PWN

    half hearted reviews.

  • June 20, 2007, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Is there a scene in this movie where..

    by exofficersmith

    ...Mike Myers is standing behind two trick or treaters on a porch, about to kill them, when the door opens and a happy housewife tosses candy in the kids' bags, then turns to Mike and says "Awww, aren't you cute! Lookie, you don't have a bag for your candy. Here, take some anyway!" and then she hands him an O' Henry bar, shuts the door, and Mike Myers turns to the camera and shrugs to the sound of "Wah wahhhhhhhhhhh!". Cuz that'd be awesome!

  • June 20, 2007, 10:33 p.m. CST

    "What else is he gonna do? Bake a cake?"

    by Dave I

    Great line!

  • June 20, 2007, 10:34 p.m. CST

    Why can't people remake carpenters Bad movies....?

    by Sgt Rock

    Don't touch Halloween Escape from NY or The Thing, please!!!! I loved this movie when I was a kid and Zombie's previous two movies were TOTAL stinkers. Why can't hacks leave the good movies alone. I hope carpenter is getting paid a lot of $$$ for letting people re-imagine his brilliance.

  • June 21, 2007, 12:37 a.m. CST

    danielle harris nude?

    by hellnback

    ok i'm not really sure but the last scene in the trailer looks like its' danielle harris being pulled back into the house by myers. if i read right, did you just say that girl is lacking clothing (her top) in it?

  • June 21, 2007, 1:33 a.m. CST

    I'll see this because... oh wait, I won't see this.

    by Mogwai Democracy

    yawn. Zombie you (gunshot)ed up. next.

  • June 21, 2007, 1:36 a.m. CST

    Jesus

    by SithMenace

    2007 is gonna go down as one of the worst years for movies ever.

  • June 21, 2007, 3:51 a.m. CST

    No mention of the Gotta Take A Shit Mask = Plant

    by Doctor_Sin

    Actually, thx for the fair and balanced review. I will still pass on this lump of afterbirth.

  • June 21, 2007, 4:58 a.m. CST

    Before Michael starts doing all this evil stuff . . .

    by TheManWithTooManyNames

    does he do a little Peter Parker dance number?

  • June 21, 2007, 4:59 a.m. CST

    About the rape scene . . .

    by TheManWithTooManyNames

    is it sexy rape or bad rape? Just asking.

  • June 21, 2007, 7:26 a.m. CST

    sexy rape?

    by Kloipy

    go fuck yourself

  • June 21, 2007, 2:35 p.m. CST

    "...Busta Rhymes cameo..."

    by C00L DUD3

    WOO-HAA, WOO-HAA!!

  • Feb. 12, 2010, 7:41 a.m. CST

    ???

    by orcus