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Tom's WrathMan Decides To LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD!!
Merrick again...
Tom's WrathMan (a reviewer known to this site) sent in this look at LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, which more or less confirms my suspicion that the film is a pale imitation of its predecessors - instead of a balls-to-the-wall "real thing."
I'll never understand or appreciate the thought process here. I "get" the notion that a studio can screw up & choose a lousy director and all. I don't understand the misguided belief that a watered down interpretation of a franchise known for (and established by) its rawness & visceral brutality will somehow be embraced by fans of the previous installments.
The title alone...DIE HARD...is a statement, an attitude, and brings with it certain preconceptions and expectations. Expectations that clearly can not be met within the film's PG-13 limitations. The Powers That Be aren't tuned into this I suppose; it's too bad such a good opportunity for a great film may be wasted.
I haven't seen it yet, thus I can't comment definitively. So...we'll see.
Here's Tom's WrathMan:
It feels very much like a sequel to Die Hard With A Vengeance, only not as good, in the same way that Die Harder felt a lot like Die Hard, but not as good. It's not set in a closed environment, and while the third film could at least claim to be "Die Hard in New York", this one is just like any other action film in terms of setting - the action moves from place to place throughout the film as the plot calls for it.
Which brings us to the film's main problem... no, not the PG-13... the story. Or the script. Or the director. I'm not sure quite what's to blame here, but the story at the heart of the film is never really convincing. I can see what they've tried to do, but the chaos unleashed by the terrorists never feels real or threatening, the reality of what's going on is kept under wraps for too long and the whole thing gets a little confused. We skip back and forth between the barking-command-center-types and McClane and it never really flows. Action happens, story happens, it keeps you amused, but you never really get the big picture... there were too many questions, for me, about who was involved in what and why, some of which get answered, some of which are brushed over. And while both Die Hard and DHWAV had extended setups and then a reveal of what was really at stake, the set up was fun to watch... power lines being sawn through, hostages taken, bank vaults raided, the works. In LFODH, it's more a case of Timothy Olyphant saying "engage stage one" or "prepare the video package", and it's a little less thrilling. I'm still not sure what the point of the huge building demolition they show in the trailer is either - what purpose it serves is beyond me, other than to tie in with the title. I can see how it works thematically, but the film never really sells it that well. Plotting wise, it's more like the last half hour of DHWAV than the earlier sections, and that's not a compliment.
So, on to the action, and that's actually pretty good in places. Yeah, it's PG-13, but they push it reasonably hard. There are a few bullet holes and squibs, and quite a lot of people falling or being flung to their deaths, and at least they show the impact, so it doesn't feel like they're holding back that much, unless you compare it to the previous films. It's certainly more violent than the Mission Impossible films, but nowhere close to the previous Die Hards. Most of the sequences are pretty good - the cars in the tunnel is probably the best, and the flipping car from the trailer really worked for me. The early shoot-out and chase are fun, too, but the fighter jet/big rig finale is a bit silly. The film suddenly becomes True Lies, but it's a step too far in a series that, at least initially, had pretty believable action. There are crazy moments in DHWAV, but this sequence is crazier, and with far more CGI. Bruce sells it well, but there's too much suspension of disbelief required for my liking. It also doesn't make sense - the plane wouldn't fire on the truck in that situation - and there are a few other moments earlier on that don't quite make sense (how did he get the car in there? why didn't he brake earlier? why bother with a bomb attached to a computer when you could just shoot the guy?) which is a shame.
As for the language? First up, he doesn't say "Yippee Kay Ay Mother Fucker". He says "Yippee Kay Ay Mother Fu-GUNSHOT". It didn't outrage me as much as I thought it would have. It's a good moment in the film, and you can almost kid yourself that he says it... you get the point... but it's still a cheat. The rest of the dialogue is littered with "shit" and, in most places, is quite funny. There are some good McClane moments over the phone, taunting Olyphant, and they work. This is still McClane, just without his F-bombs, although there's one moment of mercy near the end which goes rather against his "let them cook" philosophy we saw in DHWAV.
After the news of PG-13 had settled with me, I was actually starting to look forward to this. In the end, I was a bit underwhelmed, but had a good time. It doesn't flow that well, computers aren't exciting, Olyphant's character is not a patch on a Gruber, but the action's entertaining and, in the absence of any real, balls-out R-rated action films, it's nice to see something that at least does a decent impression of what action movies were like in the mid-90s and before. It's just a shame that it's a Die Hard film that's falling short of the mark, and not Hostage 2 or or 17 Blocks. I'm glad I saw it, but I'm not bothered about seeing it again, except...
The one reason I will see it again is to see the Unrated version. Whether they shot any more violent footage is one matter, but I'm 100% certain that the language they filmed has been trimmed. There's one scene in particular where Justin Long can be seen in the background and his voice is WAY out of sync with what he's saying, and a few other bits that sounded a little like they'd had a word cut out.
There's more to see here, I'm sure of it, but it won't save the film. It's a three star film for me.
Which brings us to the film's main problem... no, not the PG-13... the story. Or the script. Or the director. I'm not sure quite what's to blame here, but the story at the heart of the film is never really convincing. I can see what they've tried to do, but the chaos unleashed by the terrorists never feels real or threatening, the reality of what's going on is kept under wraps for too long and the whole thing gets a little confused. We skip back and forth between the barking-command-center-types and McClane and it never really flows. Action happens, story happens, it keeps you amused, but you never really get the big picture... there were too many questions, for me, about who was involved in what and why, some of which get answered, some of which are brushed over. And while both Die Hard and DHWAV had extended setups and then a reveal of what was really at stake, the set up was fun to watch... power lines being sawn through, hostages taken, bank vaults raided, the works. In LFODH, it's more a case of Timothy Olyphant saying "engage stage one" or "prepare the video package", and it's a little less thrilling. I'm still not sure what the point of the huge building demolition they show in the trailer is either - what purpose it serves is beyond me, other than to tie in with the title. I can see how it works thematically, but the film never really sells it that well. Plotting wise, it's more like the last half hour of DHWAV than the earlier sections, and that's not a compliment.
So, on to the action, and that's actually pretty good in places. Yeah, it's PG-13, but they push it reasonably hard. There are a few bullet holes and squibs, and quite a lot of people falling or being flung to their deaths, and at least they show the impact, so it doesn't feel like they're holding back that much, unless you compare it to the previous films. It's certainly more violent than the Mission Impossible films, but nowhere close to the previous Die Hards. Most of the sequences are pretty good - the cars in the tunnel is probably the best, and the flipping car from the trailer really worked for me. The early shoot-out and chase are fun, too, but the fighter jet/big rig finale is a bit silly. The film suddenly becomes True Lies, but it's a step too far in a series that, at least initially, had pretty believable action. There are crazy moments in DHWAV, but this sequence is crazier, and with far more CGI. Bruce sells it well, but there's too much suspension of disbelief required for my liking. It also doesn't make sense - the plane wouldn't fire on the truck in that situation - and there are a few other moments earlier on that don't quite make sense (how did he get the car in there? why didn't he brake earlier? why bother with a bomb attached to a computer when you could just shoot the guy?) which is a shame.
As for the language? First up, he doesn't say "Yippee Kay Ay Mother Fucker". He says "Yippee Kay Ay Mother Fu-GUNSHOT". It didn't outrage me as much as I thought it would have. It's a good moment in the film, and you can almost kid yourself that he says it... you get the point... but it's still a cheat. The rest of the dialogue is littered with "shit" and, in most places, is quite funny. There are some good McClane moments over the phone, taunting Olyphant, and they work. This is still McClane, just without his F-bombs, although there's one moment of mercy near the end which goes rather against his "let them cook" philosophy we saw in DHWAV.
After the news of PG-13 had settled with me, I was actually starting to look forward to this. In the end, I was a bit underwhelmed, but had a good time. It doesn't flow that well, computers aren't exciting, Olyphant's character is not a patch on a Gruber, but the action's entertaining and, in the absence of any real, balls-out R-rated action films, it's nice to see something that at least does a decent impression of what action movies were like in the mid-90s and before. It's just a shame that it's a Die Hard film that's falling short of the mark, and not Hostage 2 or or 17 Blocks. I'm glad I saw it, but I'm not bothered about seeing it again, except...
The one reason I will see it again is to see the Unrated version. Whether they shot any more violent footage is one matter, but I'm 100% certain that the language they filmed has been trimmed. There's one scene in particular where Justin Long can be seen in the background and his voice is WAY out of sync with what he's saying, and a few other bits that sounded a little like they'd had a word cut out.
There's more to see here, I'm sure of it, but it won't save the film. It's a three star film for me.
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Die Hard 4 looks like it's gonna SUCK hard.
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A pox on PG-13
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Let the Bitch fest begin!!!
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not surprised at all :(
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Lame! SOOO Lame! I can't believe Kate Beckinsale married Len Wiseman. At least I can blame him in good conscience, because he's clearly an asshole.
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I fear only a studio plant could write a review this positive about this movie!
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The guy chainsawing through the lines as the other guy tries to finish whatever it is he's doing, the SWAT guy who catches himself on the rose bush, Al Leong nicking a chocolate bar. I love that stuff, and those little things get missed a lot in modern action films.Anyway, pretty good review, although I think Motoko Kusanagi (sorry if spelling is wrong) should have got this gig. Sounds like what everyone was fearing - bland action shenanigans and whatnot, which is a shame.I'm still seeing it, though.
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David Mamet should have written and directed this movie. There, I said it. I'm right. Everyone agree with me - that would have been badass.
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Who knew that Reginald VelJohnson was the patron saint of good DIE HARD movies?
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Jun 20, 2007 10:01:28 AM CDT
What the fu(gunshot) kind of bullsh(gunshot) is this?!?
by peter franks
PG-13 means NO SALE for me. It's supposed to be a mother fu(gunshot) DIE HARD film! I'll wait for the unrated Blu-Ray or HD-DVD.
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Fucking Fox shill.
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...I saw FF2, for God's sake - I have nothing better to do...
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why must they continually do this PG-13 shit. It's been proven for like the last 2-3 years that you can make a hard R movie and it'll sell. 40-Year Old Virgin and Knocked Up were completely hard R's and they sold well. Granted those are comedies but obviously there is a market for R's and Die Hard has an obvious fan base. John McClane not saying fuck just kinda makes me wanna cry.
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I may actually wait for the DVD.
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Won't see this.
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gone to waste. I seem to recall this site having geekgasms over the script. is that the script they eventually used?
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You know the full fat R rated DVD will show up 6 months to a year after the PG-13 one. I'm prepared to wait.
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"No, look, yippe-ki, no, you're not listening, what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, no, yes, no, what I'm saying is, yippe-ki-yay, no, look, no, no, motherfuckers!"I would probably watch that.
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that kind of language is no longer associated with Die Hard. This is sad.
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a pg13 diehard... jesus wept! i'll watch it for free sometime in the near future.
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As much as I've liked the three previous movies, there's no way I'm paying money to see an aborted fourth installment. Wake me up when there's a uncut version with "Adult Language and Adult Content."
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That part of the trailer was all i needed to see to know this movie is crap. That scene is right up there with the scene in TRANSPORTER 2 where he flips the car upside down to scrape the bomb off the bottom. At least the Transporter movies are SUPPOSED to be ludicrous.
Taking DIE HARD out of closed envirnment is incrediby stupid as well. The closed environment is the whole POINT of DIE HARD. That's the formula. Making this as a de-fanged, de-formulized installment of the original franchise basically turns it into just another action movie. You could substitute Seagal for the lead role and it wouldn't make any difference. Fucking suits. -
ya, I'm getting to see it for free at a screener, but i'll wait for the DVD to see it again. that seems th e way to go. I was HATIN' Daredevil when I saw it at the movies, but the D-cut friggin' rocks. so much more there. Hopefuly the next DH will be R and that's that.
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unless people aren't entirely bored to shit of harry potter as I anticipate
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It seemed clear from the ads that the CGI 'splosions took the place of the gritty behind-this-guy realism of the first flick. They descend from that more with each movie, so not a big shock. I'm sure I'll see it anyway. It's gotta be better than that Transformers crap.
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C'mon dude: it would play like this:
Alec Baldwin: Is this McClane?
Willis: What's your name
AB: My name? My name? FUCK YOU thats MY name
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because you cant die hard in a pg=13 movie. LIVE FREE OR FAINT SOFT. fuck what were they thinking lol
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The Beatles once took a Circus music recoding, cut it into 5 pieces, through it in the air. The order in which the tape was picked up made it in that order onto their record.
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I loved Die Hard, not planning on seeing this one. It looks weak.
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This review is crap..just like it's subject matter.
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Has there been more than one set posted?
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What the hell happened to the BW talkbacks? people here took their time to send on legit questions only to get silence in return. can you AT LEAST fill us in on what happened? you owe your peeps that much
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It's 16 Blocks, ya stupid...
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this place is filled with hate... Fox was pissed about a bad review with FF2 From Mr. Projection booth kid. WHY FOX WHY.
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YOU SOLD THE FUCK OUT! I HOPE YOU READ THIS! WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN? WHY NO MORE TALK BACK! FUCK YOU! WHY CAN YOU NOT FIGHT FOR THIS FILM! THIS MOVIE WILL SUCK! FUCK YOU!
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Jun 20, 2007 10:31:47 AM CDT
(Gunshot) Stupid, Mother (gunshot) (gunshot) holes!
by read and shut up
Stupid. Bruce should be ashamed.
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Chris Nolan yelling action?
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uhhhh nevermind
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MOTHERFUCKER. FUCK THE MPAA. FUCK FOX. Okay, I feel better.
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LET THAT CUNT COOK
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MOTHERFUCKERS
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We feel your pain. Nuff Z
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Yes, I agree. It was the little things. They're mostly all in the script. The original Die Hard script still stands as one of the best approaches to writing an action movie. I've read it several times, particularly before I'm required to write action scenes.
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He tried to copy Sly by engaging with his fan base, but shat it. Because he knew that this "Die Hard" film is shit. Whereas Sly put his heart and soul into Rocky Balboa, and he did the same with us. THAT'S why we all took to Sly so much when he did the Q&A, he was honest with us, he didn't bullshit.
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Love that music video.
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IF IT WAS A REAL DIE HARD FILM.
THEY WONT GET A CENT FROM ME
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GO FUCK YOURSELF
YOU SELL-OUT MOTHERFUCKERING CUNT
SELL-OUT
EVEN T3 HAD A FEW FUCKS IN AND IT WAS 12A IN THE UK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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agreed
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JOKE AND YOU
YOUR A SAD SACK OF SHIT BRUCE WILLIS
WHY PISS THE CREDIBILTY OF YOUR CAREER AND YOURSELF DOWN THE DRAIN
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YippiKiyay MotherFuckers to fox!!!!! In protest!!!!!
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.CUNTS
FUCK FOX
FUCK EM
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One of Eddie Murphy's most classic monologues...
I'm willing to take this one on good faith and I more than likely will watch it, but I still can't get over the fact that a guy known for unbelievable action (not "awesome" unbelievable, but people-jumping-from-church-parapets-and-not-breaking-anything unbelievable) was chosen to direct this movie. Very pissed off. Way to ruin a decent movie legacy, Fox... -
CUNTS
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I wish we could save Die Hard. Like sending 20,000 lbs of Nuts Saved Jericho. *Runs over to fox.com and sends them email that says Yippie ki-yay motherfu(gunshot)
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FUCK THEM ALL.
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What a bunch of ThuderCu(gunshots)
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I don't care if the movie sucks I will go and see Bruuuuuuuuucccccceee !
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I tried it on my cat. Poor cat had a limp for a week.
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QUALITY!!!!
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because he has sold his Mu(Gunshot) sole to the (ad queue more Gunshots).
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Like the last two sequels. What's changed here guys? You can't hear curse words? Grow up.
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Hey, you gave us that fuc(GUNSHOT)' body, McClane, remember that.
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If it was more than a dollar ninety-eight I'd be surprised.
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Jun 20, 2007 11:00:39 AM CDT
Yea exactly, seeing the cut footage will probably help
by godzillasushi
I would wait for a directors cut but I still think seeing it in its PG-13 form is fine. We don't get enough worthwhile action movies and when something like this comes up it's still better then most. Im sorry, but Smokin Aces 'action' is still not as raw as the Die Hard series with PG-13 wussification.
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"Just once, I'd like a regular, normal Christmas. A little eggnog... a fuckin' Christmas tree... a little turkey. But, no. I gotta crawl around in this motherfuckin' tin can. "
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to the movie industry,seriously. There is no point in watching Sequels anymore. DAMN YOU TOM ROTHMAN!!
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Fuck. Fuck. All this Talkback makes me want to watch Die Hard..
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fuck
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DEGENERATES
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Edited TOO SOON ! ! !
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Jun 20, 2007 11:06:16 AM CDT
Holly, here's your fuc(gunshot) landing light. WHOOO.
by whataboutbob25
FUCKERS
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When I saw the manner in which McClane dispatches the helicopter with a police car in the trailer, I died a little inside; it seemed too over the top, too implausible, and so out of character (like McClane not dropping the F-bombs). McClane isn't meant to be a some sort of world class stunt driver-cum-engineer. He's a cop - who's only speciality should be wise cracking and causing chaos with guns or what ever he can get his hands on (within reason). But to be able to use a car like an RPG to take down a helicopter. Jesus Fu(gunshot) Christ!
And while I'm ranting: what was the point of using the fire extinguisher in the hall scene? McClane throws the fire extinguish at the bad guys and fires at the canister so that it'll explode and send Mr faceless henchman out through the window. Wouldn't it be easier for McClane just to plug two holes into the guy's head. Or would that have that upset the censors? -
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FUCK BRUCE WILLIS
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Have faith in Bruce. C´mon.
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Thats what I meant Fu(Gunshot.
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The cocksucker cud have done summat.
Fuck him too.
fuck them all.
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And neither is this film.
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But I almost look forward to Verns review more than the actual film.
Wiseman better relocate to a different continent if he's screwed this one up.
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[after Col. Stuart caused a plane to crash]
John McClane: [crying] Mother fucker.
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Best action movie EVER. Testicles to the wall, non-stop action, but yet believable. Why can't they make movies like this anymore?
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and ill get you the liner in that coat
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and I really dig Bruce but if they made the movie with no "juice" then I'll save my cash for something else. it's a shame.
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I fucking agree, there is more "entertainment value" in that review to come than there ever could be in this dog shit film.
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Can't make a DIE HARD film without John Mctiernan directing (or at least any of the Gordon/Silver/Gordon producers behind it). Holly McClane and sgt. Al Powell are characters that audiences wanted back into the series ever since DH3. The villian/movie quality factor: Hans Gruber (superb), colonel Stuart (cartoonish but very fun) and Simon Gruber (a different turn while still packing a wallop). R, PG-13 or NC-17, there must be bullets, blood, profanity galore and, above all, a good story plus a claustrophobic scenario. Make no excuses, you own DIE HARD franchise: whether it's on a plane, boat, subway station... hell, you can even go back to Nakatomi, a hockey arena or a LA bus. Live Free or Die Hard feels like Die Hard in the entire USA. Die Hard all over the world for the fifth installment? Why can't Willis grow some of his still natural hair instead of going bald all the way (that signature now belongs to 12 Monkeys, Unbreakble and -alert!- Hostage). Finally, I ask for "the good vibe" (in front and behind the camera) so each and every movie could really satisfy those who purchase the tickets, the same ones that allows you, Hollywood players, to eat your gourmet food, drive expensive cars and earn your actual undeserved paychecks. How far are we from 1988. Now everything is getting teenagers to the theater like they were some sort of cattle. Don't just make a buck, earn it and do it with your heart (OK, so I got it from Jerry Maguire, sue me).
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This film sounds quite disappointing and ultimately not worth seeing. It was one of the only movies I was looking forward to this summer. It's a shame they neutered it to appeal to a wider audience. It probably won't even do that well at the box office, since kids are going to flock to Transformers instead. I imagine this will draw a close to the franchise. Happy trails, McClane.
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When you saw Kevin Smith's cameo at the end of the trailer, you knew you were up shits creek with this one.
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computers aren't exciting?? yeah.. you are right.
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FUCK THEM ALL
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I'm not going to this and I'm telling all my movie buddies not to go to this, but they'll probly feel the same way already, so you just lost about 100 bucks, fuckheads...
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come on!!!!
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THE MARVIN FROM DIE HARD 2?
GOTTA SEE THAT ONE.
HOW ABOUT I LET YOU LIVE!!!!!!!!!!! -
There is officially no reason to see this movie anymore. And Vern's review of this could top his excellent DVD review of Chaos.
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EXTREME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The real problem in this movie is that the bad guy is portrayed as a swirling cloud. How could they do that to the source material?
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...who the hell do they think their target audience is? No parents are gonna take their kids out to Live Free or Die Hard for a family night on the town - they're gonna go see Evan Almighty or something. No, they fucked over the only people who were dying to see this movie and now the movie will die...HARD....at the box office (sorry).
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When I heard Mctiernan wasnt directing. I was bummed.
When I heard it was going to be PG-13. I was bummed.
When I heard Bruce Willis coming out and assuring everyone it was HARD core. I was bummed. Because when an actor has to qualify or do spin control...you know its a bad sign.
Anyway...the original is the only one that will stand the test of time.
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Fat FREAK...
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Oh, wait, Plant?
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FUCK.
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Bad Boys II is the purest, most balls-to-several-different-walls action movie of the decade so far. Seriously - that movie delivers on every level and he would've been PERFECT to direct this. Instead, he did Transformers. The guy made a wise career decision, because that movie will make serious bank.
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we get this here, 'cause the reviewer is known to the site. Great. Thanks for trusting me, Harry.
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Fox have just began the hunt. They want your head!!!!!!!! Run!!!!!!!!!!
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why didn't he direct? some sort of legal trouble? was it a felony? cause if it wasn't, maybe he should have directed.
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that's still just as funny as the first billionth time
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Us. The real Die Hard fans. the real action fans. And he lied about, lied to our faces.
I'm not going opening weekend and neither should you. Let's bury this thing opening weekend. We need to send a message -- No More Bullshit Action Movies.
Yippe kay ay, Motherfucker.
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When John Amos slit the newbie's throat either 1) you wouldn't have actually seen it or 2) it would have been blurred out.
so in this movie, do they replace all the f-bomb verbs with 'screw', all the f-bomb adjectives with 'stupid', all the f-bomb nouns with 'ass' or something? WOW. That's hard core. -
I think one reason the first Die Hard works so well and stands up so well is what's been pointed out here - an effort is made to make the action at least a little believable. You can almost FEEL what the protagonist is going through. The cut feet. When he hits the guardrail on the roof and the wind is knocked out of him. When he is struggling to stretch in the elevator shaft. The claustrophobia of the ventilation duct. It takes a little effort for McClane to get anything done. To go from that to TRUE LIES type action is sequelitis at its worst.
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Would they have dubbed over Sam Jackson's voice (cause he cusses and yells alot) with Laurence Fishbourne's? ("Free your mind McClane" - nah - doesn't work.)
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I will not pay to see this. No fucking way. You hear that you Fox fucks? I WILL NOT PAY to see your piece of crap. You know what it means, don't you shaftless cocks?
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can you plug in a Zeus lightning bolt (gunshot) line in here?
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HOW on EARTH can you have a DIE HARD movie without that line in the film?!?!?!
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the real thing: TRANSFORMERS!!! and please unleash hell after the firts official reviews. thank you.
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Je(gunshot) fu(gunshot) Ch(gunshot) lady! (some consider saying Je(gunshot) as taking his name in vain...or vein..or whatever)You know, maybe PG-13 would stand for more "fu(gunshots)" if all the actors took a big hit of helium before they said "fu(gunshot)"? How bout that? Helium-tinged voices are cute and funny and the last thing you think about is the years of psycho-therapy needed for hearing the word "fu(gunshot)". {I'll wait for the DVD...Willis always makes for a fun movie one way or the other...but this puritanical bullshit has got to stop...we don't see Power-Rangers movies and kids shouldn't see Die-Hard movies...nuff said!)
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Moon light a movie soon? Bruce ??
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right fox
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if it weren't for Ratner, we wouldn't have the genius that is Chris Tucker - or is it the other way around? Oh Je(gunshot)!
Whatever happened to the guy that directed Sky Captain (Corcoran?) Same goes for the V-Vendetta director, but then found out he directed Invasion?!
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WHen the original first teaser trail came out, and all of us were praying that it wasn't going to be PG-13, I said that they were gonna do that bullshit with the yipee kai yay motherfucker line. I SAID they were going to cut him off with an explosion, but now its a gunshot. WHAT BULSHIT. NO, BRUCE, NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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As soon as the incident broke out in the first film, he would have immediately come over the tannoy and said "Terrorists, put down your weapons, I am a police officer, and my wife is Holly Gennaro, who is one of your hostages". He would then slap his forehead with open palm, and say "Aw crap.".
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Motherfu(gunshot)
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And Willis said he was gonna do at least one more Die Hard, especially if fu(Gunshot) Wiseman is set to direct again... What a moron !
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It would have been embarrassing seeing him answer question after question about why he sold out the Die Hard franchise. Although, I did want to ask him if Arnold Schwartzenegger gave him tips on how to ride on top of a moving jet fighter. Is this flick True Lies 2? Tom Arnold's gotta eat!
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YOU FAT BALD FUCK.
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Who needs a drink?
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FUCKING CUNT.
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Willis: "Because, in my humble opinion, it rivals the first film in both content, in its level of violence and just how smart a film it is. Go see the film, and you'll be very happy with it if you're a fan of the series."
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. . . to Die Hard With A Vengeance, only not as good" WOW, did this reviewer ever save me some. Got to stop right there. I'll check this out when it's on TBS. Hey, they won't have to edit anything out!
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...She asked, "Who plays the Bruce Willis part? He's not still making action movies, is he?" True story.
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cuz from the looks of it this movie is gonna suck more ass than hudson hawk. Also, can anyone put together a video on youtube of the original die hard with all the F bombs bleeped out by a gun shot?
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Let's not start eviscerating our own ballbags after one review. Although I do agree it doesn't look good. Seriously though, who really thought this was ever going to be as good as Die Hard 2, let alone the first one? Len Wiseman???? We all knew it was going to be a dissapointment. The only question is - will it be a trainwreck? I doubt it. But it's certainly never going to be a great return for the DH franchise, not with Len Wiseman at the helm.
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Don't go. Enough is enough. No more lies. No more bullshit. No more movie stars coming on to talkback and trying to play us like suckers. Just don't go. See you in Hell.
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So my wife's packing boxes for our upcoming move and she finds an unused free Regal Entertainment pass. Needless to say, I'll be dumping that pass on this travesty and save my hard earned matinee money! This flick will be an afterthought when Transformers drops 4 days later. Walter B, you sold out dude!
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It was the only rational evolution for the characters/story at this point.
The same way the Lethal Weapons' went from serious action in 1 to light hearted adventure by 4.
Same with the Sellers/Edwards Pink Panther series, too, in their transformation from mystery-with-some-comedic-elements to full blown slapstick comedy 5 movies later.
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I'm a mushroom cloud layin motherfu(gunshot), motherfu(gunshot)!
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I don't think it's very productive calling Willis a "fat bald fuck". At the end of the day, Willis is laughing at you - he's just pocketed $20m for this film, and he's going to celebrate by going out and getting laid by 5 gorgeous 25 year old models. You on the other hand are going to sit in your room and have a wank over a pair of your mother panties, so I think I know who's got the upper hand here.
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Um, didn’t Bruce Willis confirm that he does indeed say “Yippee Kay Ay Motherfucker” in the final cut?
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ME. MY MOMS HOT.. LOL... EWWWWW
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so fu(gunshot) funny man. He said more than twice "you wrecked my childhood" or "I would kind of hear their comments, but I'm still going to make my movie and I'll still put flames on Optimus." priceless.
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Actually im going to spunk into you mothers big panties after ive fucked yer dad in the arse. I think Willis is getting more than 20mill! Hes on points for this isnt he. Thats why he said right here the upfront wasnt "what ud expect". So once again, fuck you too. Is that productive?
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It looks sucky from the trailers. Transformers won't kick ass either. It'll probably be mediocre film just like this one is. THIS SUMMER....PREPARE YOURSELF....FOR DISSAPPOINTMENT!
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Ive fucked your mother and she was shit.
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SO I READ SOMEWHERE.
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FUCK IT
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hit 'em in the babymaker with your pennies, people.
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SELL OUT FUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!
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No contest on which one is the greater lameness.
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cunts
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That wasn't a curse it was the action geek side of me taking his own life. RIP - John McClane. WalterB we loved you, we thought you loved us too.
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indeed
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would've been better than (gunshot)
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HAD A FUCK WORD IN IT.
TO PUT IT INTO CONTEXT.
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Coming Soon. Reedited Die hard with Gunshot Voice OVer (if only youtube could hurry up processing my video)
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Is gay. (END OF MESSAGE)
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I think every sequel/trilogy film should be summed-up and reviewed this way...
"We're gonna die, die, die...DIE HARD..." -
WoW!! I just saw the john rambo teaser, holy fucking shit. Mr. Willis i hope you're taking notes from sly cuz that trailer actually looked fucking awsome not like your pussified DH4!
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and why not? from the review and related comments, it appears we've been given a much tamer, more softer touch to the story of Die Hard...maybe bruce's daughter in the movie can give me a soft touch! oooh-hoooo!
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3 stars to me sounds like one of the best films of the summer.
Though that's not saying much.
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Ha thats funny. I never picked that up, love those films though.
Even FIREWALL that great film starring whats his face has a "fuck" word innit. And its about "cyber terrism" -
cmon guys let's seriously boycott this thing. Let's send a message!
BOYCOTT!...ah who am i kidding enough of you drones will probably see this farce of a die hard film. I hope enough of us actually do send a message to FOX!
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SEND THAT CUNT BRUCE WILLIS AND HIS CRONIES BACK IN-TIME USING THE FLUX CAPACITER SO THE CUNT WAS NEVER EVER BORN.
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The return of Mister Falcon! Jesus, I never thought I would say that, in any situation and at any time, but... I actually miss Renny Harlin now. God help me. And God punish Hollywood. And send a plague of bloody boils on Len "wise" man.
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TO OLD FOR THIS SHIT
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Jun 20, 2007 1:07:46 PM CDT
I don't give a fuck, Riggs. That's why I don't have an
by whataboutbob25
I don't give a fuck, Riggs. That's why I don't have an ulcer, because I know when to say "I don't give a fuck."
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Yeah, LW2 was the last good one. Just wait, you'll see a fucking Lethal Weapon remake at some point.
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(lunch)
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Don't go, Vern. Join the rebellion. Bruce Willis lied to you. He's trying to make a sucker out of you. Honestly, you think a non-smoking, non-swearing, bald-headed, PGfucking13, Apple nerd sidekick, Die Hard In Name Only movie about chasing a guy with a computer featuring Kevin fucking Smith is worth your ten bucks? Turn your back on Bruce Willis, Vern, just as he turned his backs on us. Mythology of Die hard, my ass. Bruce Willis is a fucking con man. See you in Hell.
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FUCK BRUCE WILLIS
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Jun 20, 2007 1:09:59 PM CDT
Martin Riggs: Cause if you stick around here, I'm gonna
by whataboutbob25
Martin Riggs: Cause if you stick around here, I'm gonna FUCK YOUR ASS
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i too read an interview where willis confirmed the yipper kay yay line but the way its described here, it seems he does say it...its just that the gun blocks it out so technically he didnt really lie. lol
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is a little work in progress with a Mexican flare called "Machete". But you won't see that because Planet Terror got saddled with a 90 minute girlie gabfest from Tarantino and Rodriguez can't get his di(gunshot) out of Rose McGowan long enough to get his creative f (gunshot) on.
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I started coming to this site about 8 years ago or so (it's been long time) I have loved harry's reviews at first but lately i don't know. I do believe he liked daredevil which i didn't and i can't believe he liked FF2. I haven't seen FF2 but FF1 was shit. But still i have faith that Harry hasn't completely sold out. But i just can't imagine HOW DH4 can come close to being good with a pg13 rating. Seriously. There are so many restraints on artists as it is (budget, target audiences, time) let alone all the restraints a pg13 rating has. IF harry's review says this is as good as the first then i guess i'll know for sure if he's sold out.
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I'll give you a home to come back to.
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"May the coerce be with you" in the latest dvd release of the OT. This PC stuff has gone too far.
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would you like a shot at the title?
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the "quality' of the DH4, then he probably misled us about the whole Bay interaction too. Maybe imply a few bad things, get the h8rs juiced up a little and take a little steam out of the Transformers movie which starts like 3 days after LFODH? It's all about the $ $ $ Makes sense, doesn't it?
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Ugh. When Bruce showed up here, I had hope for this movie. Surely a star so aggressively defending his movie would have something worth defending...after all, I ate crow when I saw that Rocky Balboa was actually good.
But with as fast as he disappeared and his silence since, I've had a bad feeling. When it was PG13 I had a worse feeling. I wonder if the "Yippee Kay Yay Motherfucker" line, though, was originally supposed to be heard clearly...but it was a sticking point with the MPAA and so the the gunshot was added in later.
But still, ugh. And I knew that something was up when he started talking about Perfect Stranger. Remember he said that it had been edited to a PG13 but still had swearing and nudity?? Guess what Bruce? Perfect stranger was released with an R rating!!!! Why'd you lie? -
...to make a PG-13 rated Die Hard. I don't think there's going to be any more violence in the "unrated" DVD, I'm pretty sure it's all in the theatric version.
They probably submitted it to the MPAA and had it returned to them as an R-rated movie because of the language, not the violence. Rothman probably figured he could get a PG-13 easily then by just cutting some of the "Fucks" out of the dialog. Is he still a pussy for doing so? Of course he is. Is Bruce Willis still a little bitch for coming on here and trying to sell this watered down shit as "the best Die Hard yet"? Unfortunately, yes, yes he fucking is. But the action in the trailers still looks pretty cool, the first time I saw that car about to land on Willis and the Mac kid in the tunnel then the other two cars get in the way at the last second, I was floored. I just wish this wasn't a Die Hard movie, I wish it was a random action movie with Willis and the Mac kid in it, then I'd be able to accept that gay ass PG-13 rating. -
this one was pretty cool too
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Yep, I think I called it right when Brucie first came on here saying he was going to do what Sly did. It was bullshit kiss-ass appeal-to-the-fanboy PR damage control. They knew this thing would suckit.
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Now that would be funny.
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I am waiting for herc, Moarity, Quint or Vern. Someone to say something about the AICN massacre of Die Hardly.. MOTHERFU(GUNSHOT)
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ok cobra was not good but Tango and Cash that's an underated action movie. Hell it was a buddy cop comedy and IT had more cussing and violence than this DH4! "FUBAR? yeah Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition"
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amongst others(Black Rain, Raw Deal,etc). This TB turned out pretty uplifting after all.
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...The Ring 2 get a PG-13 rating with a line like "I'm not your fucking mommy!" in it while LFODH cant get away with one little "Yippee Kay Yay Motherfucker"?
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what was the body count in that movie - something like 237? awesome awesome movie. If Tommy Chong's daughter wore a little less, Alyssa were a little older and Bennet had a little less flab it would have been perfect.
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Now there's a great underated 80's action flick. If you haven't seen this one rent it it's good.
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just called. he said he saw a preview of DH4 and it was FUBAR, big time!
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that the one with the Babylon 5 stripper / alien?
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I can't believe we're talking 80's and 90's action and not mention TERMINATOR and T2, oh wait they made T3, oh yeah, never mind.
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yes tonamania, the stripper alien
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yes to both frg10 and tonamia, if my previous post didnt make it.
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What do say jack? WOuld you like a shot a the title?
GB: Don't mind if I do!
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LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD sounds like one more of the incredibly mediocre movies released this summer. There hasn't been a truly great summer movie in a LONG time.
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Naw man, Bennet was awesome with his jizz-belly and Freddy Mercury moustache. When Arnie is telling him not to deny himself of some pleasure... holy fuck, Bennet looks like he's gonna fill his pants with Aussie spunk.
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was in a horror movie to - it was called perfect Stranger.
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i saw commando in the theaters when i was in high school. me and my buddies laughed the whole way through pointing out all the flaws (like when they flip over the wrecked yellow porsche it's brand new) I fucking love that movie. "remember when I said i kill u last...I lied"
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I don't think Walter B will be back. Bruce made promises he knew were lies and we don't take kindly to that shit around here. Mythology of Die Hard? DHINO takes a steaming dump on the chest of the Mythology of Die Hard. Fucking Apple geek, computer bullshit plot, not location-specific, directed by that vampire shit-bird -- I mean, don't throw shit-snowballs at me and tell me they're pudding pops. Bruce is a liar, and a coward, and should be ashamed of what he's done to Die Hard. Just don't go. Let this thing sink to the bottom of toilet. Bury opening weekend. No more bullshit. No more pussy-fication of action movies. No more move star lies. See you in Hell.
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do I sound like I'm ordering a pizza."
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seen that movie about 50 times - that scene still weirds me out . . .
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"Fuck you asshole. No, fuck YOU asshole."
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...Commando. Too many to count.
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I mean Ivan Drago was okay (heavy bag with balls), but the rest?
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http://tinyurl.com/qbmx9
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(who the hell is Kelly Clarkson)?
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I'm going to a plant-only screening tomorrow I'll get you one.
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The fans of the original are old now. They are NOT the people studios target for an audience. The younger kids are the ones who see movies multiple times, and waste money on any summer crap that comes along. This fits the bill nicely.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxkr4wS7XqY
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Live Free or Die Without Finishing that Talkback you Promised.
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... a new non-stop action throwback to the old days with Ahnold, Sly, Kurt Russell and Tom Arnold & Jim Belushi as the sidekicks. Walter B. can sit this one out.
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ouch that's harsh, straight line to the grave! oh well bruce will be there first..and in hell for this pos.
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Out for Justice. Corkscrew in the forehead, rolling pin to the shins, meat cleaver to the hand, and a fake Brooklyn accent. What else do you need? Oh yeah, a puppy pissing on a guys head. "She's the one with the nipples you could dial a phone with".
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good...I would PAY to see that shit!
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I like how this was going to be an amazing movie summer. Spider-man was corny, Shrek 3 wasn't funny, Pirates 3 was one of the worst movies ever. Surfer was a lot like the first film. Now we have a shitty pg-13 action movie with an old Bruce Willis. This film will bomb especially if fans don't go action movies rely on action fans not stupid kids they'll go see Pirates or something instead. It's sad to think Transformers and Harry Potter have to save the summer.
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i couldn't agree with you more. I can't believe this I was hoping DH4 was gonna save the summer until this ratins fiasco. I can't believe TRansformers and Harry Potter are gonna have to save us... so sad
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he wants revenge...bloody revenge.
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In a way that is easier to hear at a fucking basketball game, than in an actual movie. My anger dwells inside of me.
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try above the law, not the steven seagal one but the yuen biao one from hong kong
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Yeah! ENDO from Lethal Weapon. "Endo has FORGOTTEN more about pain than you or I will ever know."
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I'm not reading everything here to see if a joke I just thought of has already been said.
The only reason they made this movie PG 13 is so Demi Moore can bring Ashton to the Premiere.
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asian chocolate eating fella ruled in that and a bunch of other movies. can't over on the dolph thing. maybe we can talk about his crazy ex - grace jones - she scared the hell out of everybody.
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SORRY I FUCKED WITH YOU HARRY.:(
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Just hope they got a Nip in this building who speaks fucking English.
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Just hope they got a Nip in this building who speaks fucking English.
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She's 13, and if you even look at her funny I'm gonna shove an umbrella up your ass and open it.
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Jun 20, 2007 2:13:19 PM CDT
Nobody likes you. Everybody hates you. You're gonna los
by whataboutbob25
Nobody likes you. Everybody hates you. You're gonna lose. Smile, you fuck.
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Jun 20, 2007 2:13:24 PM CDT
Nobody likes you. Everybody hates you. You're gonna los
by whataboutbob25
Nobody likes you. Everybody hates you. You're gonna lose. Smile, you fuck.
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Man, you couldn't protect a cup of warm piss.
-Last Boy Scout.
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Sure, sure, it just happened. Could happen to anybody. It was an accident, right? You tripped, fell on the floor and accidently stuck your dick into my wife. "Oops, I'm sorry, Mrs. H, I guess this just isn't my week".
FOR RAISING THE BAR SO HIGH.
PURE.FUCKING.CLASS
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Thank you, thank you. Don't forget to tip your waitress.
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Hey, you gotta light? And if you touch me again I'll kill you.
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Al Leong mothe(gunshot). Somehow he was in LW1 AND LW4. Mel couldn't even break his fucking neck.
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i thnk it is that one FRG10 i haven't seen it in a long time but i do remember that it's really good.
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Yep. That bit in the plane, where douglas is playing cards, and the bad guy gives him a smirk. WALLOP!
DOUGLAS. Fuck man. Bring them back.
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releasing this with a pg-13 rating is stupid - does the studio want kids to see it that bad? - are they that worried about box office? - dumb - this movie should be r rated - any die hard fan would agree - this is fucking stupid decision making by the suits - i guess the new rambo movie will be cut into a pg-13 movie by release date too - inspite of the gory trailer we all saw - i read an interview with bruce at ign where he went on and on about how this new dh is like the first (in tone and vilolence wise) - oh well - maybe next time - i think they nailed it with the last one (dhwav) - it was rated r had balls and felt real - no kids allowed
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Jimmy Dix: What, you don't believe in love?
fROM THE LAST BOY SCOUT. HOW.GOOD.IS.THIS. HOW GOOD. EH???????? PG-13???
Joe Hallenbeck: Yeah I believe in love; I also believe in cancer.
Jimmy Dix: What, they?re both diseases?
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in DH1 too
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Calm down, if you don't like the movie or Willis that's fine, but there's no need to call him a pedophile or anything like that.
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Not right
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[Joe gets to his office, after waking up next to a dead squirrel a bunch of kids threw in his car]
Mike Matthews: What'd you do last night?
Joe Hallenbeck: I think I fucked a squirrel to death, and don't remember. -
Dear Ain't it Cool News Posters,
It has come to the attention of our studio that some of you are displeased with the PG13 rating of the new Diehard film...er.. excuse me a moment.. yes Ms Teschmacher. Oh Satan's cock is here?! Tell him I'll be right there, FULLY lathered.Ahem.. Now where was I? Ah yes-well I really must be going now so I'll just say- fuck all of you for your patronage over the years, and fuck anyone who has ever liked our movies. That is all. Goodday. -
great asian character actor. He was also genghis kahn in bill and ted's, also he was in BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA with the goddess that is Suzee Pai
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Sarah Hallenbeck: [arguing; justifying her infidelity] You were never around. You know what? Fuck you, Joe. I was lonely!
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That doctor chick Swayze bangs was hotter than hell. Watching him nail her, then watching her stretch out on the grass all nude supine akimbo made this then-15 year old run upstairs to rub it out
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"Can I ask you something? These sunglasses, they're really nice: are they government-issued, or all you guys go to the same store to get them?"
Poor Bobby. Poor Bruce.
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My oh my what a motherfull day, plenty of sunshine, heading our way, yipee kay-do-day, yipee kay-yay! Mister Falcon on my shoulder! It's the truth! It's actual! All of this is downright craptual!
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Jack Walsh: You're goddamn right I am. Now here come two words for you: Shut the fuck up.
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Best part in Midnight Run? Deniro steals Kotto's badge, walks away, then turns around and flashes it at the camera. Gold.
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You don't GO to Brad Wesley's house. You don't TALK to Brad Wesley. Brad Wesley OWNS this town. As for Kelly Lynch...(cue self-gratifying, under desktop hand gestures, eyes roll to back of head, drool from corner of mouth)
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I'LL KICK YOUR FUUUUUUUUCKING TEETH IN.
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In EW's write up on Die Hard, they nail it in the first sentence. He's just a guy. Now that was 20 years ago, before GCI stuntplayers can duplicate any kind of death defying stunt a director can dream up. And DHWAV did have Mclane get blown out of the tunnel like a whales blowhole, and the jump onto the ship was pretty farfetched ( although the guy getting wire-sliced in half was cool ). Sooo, let me swim against the current and say despite the lack of "fucks", which Willis could sell in his New Jersey wise ass delivery in spades, I'm willing to give this a chance. As long as the action isn't too preposterous, and Olyphant makes a decent villian ( the dude from GO! ), I'll give it a go. I've been disappointed by Spider3, and bored by Pirates. The next big action flick is based on a toy line, and Bourne is not till August. The best time I had in the movies this summer so far was Knocked Up, so, if LFODH doesn't live up to the franchise entirely, but provide entertaining action, I'll be there. You can all call me a pussy now....
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he said this is the best afternoon at work he's had in a long time.
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Fuck, you know what. Your right on the money there. And he has those shaded on dont he. De Niro eh. GOLD!
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I LOVE the original. I like 2 and 3 a lot, with a slight edge to 2 because it's at night and in a more confined setting. Still, some points go to 3 for the elevator shooting, which was more brutal and fun than anything in 2. The annex skywalk shootout was fun, but let's face it, it was very stylized with lots of slo-mo. Can't beat the old "I think I've got the winning ticket right HERE," although I must say "yipee kay yay motherfobang" might come closeNot.
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Hope you enjoy it, PIG and have popcorn PIG (spit flying)
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You have a rendezvous with my ass, motherfucker!
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well I'll be thinkin' about that when I'm pissin' on yo
by whataboutbob25
tAKEN from "In the line of fire"
as said by CLINT EASTWOOD.
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you are right - "Die Hard With A Vengence" is in my opinion the best dh movie - the first is good, but didnt feel as real or gritty as dhwav - that movie was dark, gritty and action packed - and the action was real - no cgi nerf action - and bruce looked and acted real - fucked up from the get go - hung over - bled from beginning to end - i was living in ny when it came out - the city looked great in that movie - sam j was great - dhwav should be the model by which all following dh flicks are measured
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Deniro:WWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?"
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well I'll be thinkin' about that when I'm pissin' on your grave.
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you're a pussy
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The elevator scene in DHWAV is so good.
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Like I said yesterday, it was the number 1 worldwide box-office movie of 1995. Bigger than Batman Forever!! Just like Spiderman 3 is or fucking Shrek.
And it was a hard-core action picture.
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after declaring he's gonna "kill 'em all" should be so off the hook and violent that his daughter has to BEG him to stop. I mean, c'mon, this guy has been through a LOT in these four movies. I know I would personally have had my fill of terrorists and, prison be damned, I'd dismember all of them with a dull fork and their kids, too
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You said you're watching COBRA. Haven't you seen it before? Listen to what the thuggish muscular bad guy says. Some help here, people? Or do I have a bad memory?
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So Mclane actually muders this guy.
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to be clearer, I was trying to be funny, not insult you--it's a quote from the MOVIE!!
Stuntcock Mike, or should it be called the 'Lift' scene? -
omg..an actor claimed his most current movie, the one he's plugging, to be better than one of his older ones..stop the presses..its the end of the world...get a grip kids. lol
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Bruce said this'll be good so i'll trust him on that and see it. let's just hope he wasn't sh(bang!)ng us
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These two are the last of the big summer blockbusters left. Shrek 3, SM3 were both let downs. POTC3 was the better of the three. The surprise has been F42. It has been the best summer film so far. It was actually entertaining but not great, but no one was expecting F4 to be ground breaking. Die Hard 4 or 5 seems to be heading in that mediocre to mildly entertaining territority. The Transformers looks like it's going to deliver, and Harry potter will turn out to be the best Summer film if transformers fail. The harry Potter films are the most stable of the franchises. It looks great.
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ARE YOU MOCKING ME MR GAMBINI
FUCK BRUCE WILLIS. Have you noticed in ALLLLLLLLLL the press hes done, its all been in the copy "we spoke to bruce on the phone" he swore, he was cool....and THIS SITE GOT SUCKERED IN LIKE LITTLE EXCITED PUPPIES. CUNTS. -
Yeah, lift is better. I'm Canadian though. 'Nuff said.
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Mah naame iz detective jdoohn kiimbul- ahhm a poleeze offissuur. -
peace out, as the kids say. Til next time bro.
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anyone wanna do some bashing on the halloween talkback?
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FUCK FOX
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I'm in. Rob Zombie also raped my childhood.
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You're right--in the states we call it 'elevator,' but in the movie, that Swedish terrorist masquerading as a guard at the Federal Reserve slips up and calls it a 'lift' and says it's raining 'dogs and cats,' which let our boy Bruce know it's gonna be a helluva ride going down.
frg10--no problem. I AM a fuck face sometimes. I envy you, because you get to watch Sly's partner eat gummi bears and hear that "Angel of the City" song when Bridgitte does her modeling montage in the movie. To be honest though, if I ever hear that song again, I'll probably stab my own eardrums out with a meat thermometer -
on the phone, with Arnold pretending to be John:
"What's wrong with Wolfie?"
"Nothing honey! Where are you?"
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I asked for it, didn't I?
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Is it me or when Jeremy Irons is talking to the Head of the reserve his buddies are stabbing the guards to death in the background. Yet, when they subdue him its with the Snake Plissken Needleless thingamabob that just knocks him out. Was that even a question?
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Except this movie, it seems.
The word they were looking for was motherFUCKER!!!
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...scream as loud as you can "FUCKER" after McClane said "mother".
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...a KICK ASS action movie like we havn't seen in a long time! I just watch this JOGN RAMBO trailer again http://mftm.blogspot.com/2007/05/john-rambo-2008-production-trailer.html AND IT JUST ROCKS!!!
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The limitations the MPAA imposes on a PG13 cannot possibly allow this movie to be a true DIE HARD movie. Even if this one has the best plot and best villain there is no way it can have the visceral movie going experience the first movies were. Skimn i know you're a fan so I ask u to do this, wait to rent it on DVD, if u give in to seeing it in the theaters you only give the studio idiots who do these things more ammunition to make another bland "in the name only" type movies cuz they know fans will fork over $10 no matter what to see it. I'd rather give them a 99cent rental fee of a dvd, that's about all this is worth.
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I don't recall seeing any of his movies, and he doesn't exactly look intimidating in these DH trailers, either. I'm not saying he wouldn't kick my ass in a real fight, I'm saying he doesn't LOOK intimidating enough to be a DH villain to strike fear in to the heart of anyone. He looks like he ought to be cast as a teacher on Dawson's Creek or one of those lame ass whitebread emo-tweeny shows. They should have had an ethnic villian, not another white guy, I don't care if he's American or not. And I don't like female helper bad-guys. It didn't work in DHWaV, that blonde wasn't even hot. At least she didn't speak. The cameo I would have liked in this is Marvin the airport maintenance guy from DH2. Unless he's dead, of course, in which case, I don't want to see him. Still, I'm there, because I'm a geek
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How about you come out from under that rock your hiding under and old school John McClane will drive his truck up your ass
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with Bruce W. and Kevin Smith trying to out fuck each other...whoa that sounded gay...ooops sorry if offended any you homos...if you touch my stuff I'll kill you.
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and denouncing it in the Halloween thread. Just realized that.
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I hope at the end of the movie he lights up a smoke and guzzles a beer, and crushes the can against his bald head. Especially if he starts off the movie a nonsmoking reformed alcoholic. That would rule and redeem some of the manhood
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Where the fuck is he? I thought he was supposed to do what Sly did?
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Honeey ahhm homme dere. Vhat? Da kidz ahr aht dere granmaahz? Cummon den babee lezz doohiit.(ziiip) Ohhwah daht feelz good dere. Ohhwah, jah, loohwah..oohwah..loohwahh.. LICK MAH AZZHOOLE! CUMON DOOWIT! LICK MAH AZZHOOLE NOW GOAH!!!
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DIE HARD IN A SKIRT
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Die Hard may be known for cussing, but it's also known for explosions. The PG-13 won't hold it back from big explosions and action which is good. I don't doubt that it will be intense, but I do see that it has none of the same feel or mood that the other films had.
The fact that they cut out Motherfucker is an insult to every fan everywhere. It's the trademark line. Even fucking Bruce Almighty had the word "fuckers" in it, so why can't DIE HARD??! I'm shocked that Bruce or anyone was willing to make the movie accepting that the studio said no to having that line in there, Bruce should have known better and stood up for the integrity of the franchise. -
Axel Foley: "Get the f(dubbed voice says "hell") outta here!". Very lame.
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how come my paragraphs don't work anymore.
i can't remember how to code gaps on this forum.
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apparently i do remember how to do it. move along.
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FUCK BRUCE WILLIS AND FUCK HIS SAGGY TITS MOTHER.
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..just sayin'...
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Hard Way=R, Bird on a Wire=PG13
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Sure he died in the first but I bet a smart screenwriter could think of some bullshit way for us to see Hans Gruber back on screen. Anyways itll be good to see Bruce Willis back in an action role on the big screen.
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Old McClane ftw
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Two of the best champagne villains ever. Die Hard films need a cool villain. Jeremy Irons was barely passable, but still fell short of the watermark set by Rickman, Die Hard failed big time in that department with the guys from Bill and Ted go to Hell and Good Times. This one looks even lamer, if such a thing is possible.
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in DODGEBALL but they cant feature the word 'muther******"
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and has been since the first one. Die Hard I was perfect. Part II was fair. Part III was terrible, so why should I expect IV to be worth 2 hours of my life? Especially with a PG-13 rating. Fuck that. Judd Apatow (director of 40 Year Old Virgin & Knocked Up) said it best when asked why his movies were hard R's. He said "Well, real life is rated R, so people can relate to R rated movies. Your day-to-day life is not PG-13. At least mine's not."
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when de Niro flashes Yaphet Kotto's FBI badge to the camera. I noticed that years ago. It's just funny the first time, but if you rewatch it, you go, "How'd he do that?" The man swings around like he's attached to a pivot -- it's like a dancer's move. And it's just a little throwaway shot.
Man, de Niro used to be so good. MIDNIGHT RUN was a comedy all the way, but right in the middle of it there's that scene where he visits his ex-wife and sees his daughter. Such a fu(GUNSHOT) heavy scene. I get dusty just thinking about it.
They should make a sequel. I'm serious. De Niro's character has got his coffee shop under an assumed name somewhere, and Serrano has served his sentence and finally tracked him down. De Niro can't get the authorities to take him seriously because he keeps having to explain that he was living under a false identity, so he finally has to flee from Serrano, who then goes after his daughter (who has grown up into Hilary Swank, or better yet, Isla Fisher). Dad rescues her and together they flee from Serrano's hired goons. Trudging along some road in the middle of nowhere, They both get picked up by ... Charles Grodin, who it turns out has kept tabs on his buddy the whole time. "Know what?" he suggests. "Serrano's always going to be coming after us, or those close to us. Maybe it's time to stop running." De Niro agrees and they go out in a blaze of glory.
Yeah, it's cheesy. But come on! Wouldn't you pay to see Bobby and Chuck go out like Butch and Sundance? I know I would. -
Upending the Star Trek rule. Maybe the 5th DH will be the good one.
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Hope you enjoyed the COP movie PIG (spits). During the break I hope you get some snacks and something to DRINK, PIG (spits some more)
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"You're welcome!"
Nice to see the love for all the real red-blooded action flicks of the 1980s, as well as the scorn for Walter B's latest effort. -
i heard that when it was actually orginally rated r the first time the mpaa saw it
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...is much smarter than Bruce. this would make no sense a year ago, but after reading the talkbacks, it's very clear. will def catch the new Die Hard.
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the New World is coming!!! PIG!
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Shoot the guy who said that.
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I rented XMen 3 from the library for free, and refuse to see either Fantastic Fours. Does that count? I understand your stance to "stick it" to Fox for watering down a franchise with a kick-ass history. And the recent Hostel brew-haha shows poor box office can affect a studios stance to certain product and may even bring Roth's career to a slowdown if not a halt. But I think this will pull in 65 mil easy in the first wed-sun weekend. I am really curious to see how this is reviewed though.
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Jun 20, 2007 4:43:53 PM CDT
"Plotting wise, it's more like the last 1/2hr of DHWAV"
by captain happy
Got it, crystal clear, thanks...
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And it will be buttraped by Ratatouille, TINO and Hairy Pooter as soon as they're launched. Mark my words.
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Oh no the terro-rists have disabled the World Wide InnerWeb!!Harry can't add any more friends to his MySpace!
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The first one is the greatest American-style action movie of all time. And the second two are good enough that I feel obligated to see this the first day it comes out. I'll be there no matter what I read about it.
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I'll watch this on DVD.
I'm TiVoing *all* of the talk show appearances by the cast of "Live Free Or Die Hard" so that I can laugh when I hear them say, "This is the best 'Die Hard' film yet." or "I'm amazed at what we got away with. This is a brutal, brutal movie." or "Fuck the fans; the check cleared and it had plenty of zeros at the end. That's all I care about." -
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I think with a PG-13 they're allowed one FUCK but it can't be a MOTHERFUCKER because mothers ain't there to be fucked. This is what happens when you try to (GUNSHOT) a stranger in the ASS!
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Rocky balboa was a great conclusion to the rocky series. Stallone is on fire and i hope he stays that way cause it looks like the next rambo is as close as were going to get to old school action flicks. DH4 is not sounding promising as theyve taken out everything i like (except Bruce Willis), ill have to see for myself.
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Rocky balboa was a great conclusion to the rocky series. Stallone is on fire and i hope he stays that way cause it looks like the next rambo is as close as were going to get to old school action flicks. DH4 is not sounding promising as theyve taken out everything i like (except Bruce Willis), ill have to see for myself.
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and it made a gajillion dollars - plus there were toys made - kids still managed to see it - cant hollywood make r rated action movies for people over 18 anymore? - does every fucking movie with a budget over 75 mil and a big star have to be "safe" - im in my 40s and im not interested in seeing a "safe" die hard movie - bullshit
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im so bummed. i was looking forward to this flick and now i can't believe the only movie i'm somewhat kind of anticipating is a michael bay flick... i thnk i'll go (gunshot)ing kill myself.
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LIES LIES LIES. This is bullshit. Motherfu-gunshot! What's sad is Vh1 will keep that line on their "dumbest sequels of the '00s" and I'll be forced to sigh for decades after this comes out. SORRY MR. WILLLIS. KNOW I SAID I'D GO SEE IT, BUT WELL THIS IS A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT DIE HARD. FUCK OFF.
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how scary (their intent) can they be if they are pulling punches - real world action fare like die hard benefits from an r rating - you buy the premise a lot easier if the "world" the story takes place in feels real - like my r rated reality
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but that would be body double of Tia Carrer ass...lol
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that way I could have taken my entire church congregation and my conservative republican friends to see it
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Humma lay zibboo lah booboo lah humma beeboo lay ziboo lay BOP, Master Faker! Sha na na and doo ron-ron, you frilly fifth, YOU!
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you guys are very mean and funny. I'm sure Bruce Willis is reading the comments and wishing the studios had made an R rated flick
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and if he is i bet he agrees (with the popular sentiment) and is pissed this flick got bitch slapped with a pg-13 - i guess there will be an "unrated" (r) version on disc - too bad we cant see that version on a big fucking multiplex screen - i still like bruce - he is a great actor and makes good product - his face was made for cinema - but this rating bullshit is fucked up
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has anyone seen behind the mask?? is it worth buying? blockbuster doesnt carry it for rent..some sort of marketing scheme
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You know it's true
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in Moonlighting where he gets drunk in his car in a parking garage while listening to "Yankee Rose" by David Lee Roth.
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Thanks for the info. Sadly, I don't watch TV so I don't get the reference of who Sal Buttock is, or what you said :)
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1. Die Hard
2. Live Free or Die Hard
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peta wilson needs to do porn..i need to see her nice big ass taking a big one,
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sin city - pulp fiction - grindhouse - all rated r - this franchise (dh) is his baby (the studio can argue otherwise) - what the fuck happened? - i wanted to see jm cussing a blue streak and killing bad guys while covered in blood (like the last dh) - oh well
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william clay--have you seen Live free Or Die Hard?
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bruce, i'm sorry for what i said in the other talk back about being a money hungry and about mentioning the divorce sorry dude...I still like ya you make great movies BUT THERE'S NO FUCKING WAY IN HELL IM GONNA SEE THIS DHPG13 BULLSHIT MOTHER FUCKIN COCKSUCKIN TITTY SUCKIN TWO BALL BITCH OF A MOVIE.
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I have seen it.
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Thanks Bruce. What a load of arse.
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The children of the world trusted you!
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The rating didn't matter much to me for this. If it were Robocop or Braveheart, maybe. We're the last few that hardcore?
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Have enjoyed anything he done in the movies whether it be PG, PG-13, or R. Still waiting for a NC17 flick Bruce.Yeah. I also was disappointed in the watering down of the Die Hard franchise. Still, I plan on seeing this. I am just glad that there are actors like BW still out there. They could have just filmed him taking a crap and yelling Yippee KY Jelly Motherfucker and I would have enjoyed it.
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I hope that your ranking system is accurate cause i wouldnt mind it being right behind the first DH. Why are computers exploding all of a sudden ..did they plant bombs in the computers of certain important people? By the looks of that 10 min teaser it didnt look bad to me..but did you think that the fighter jet finale was too unreal?
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that's just it mr fan he won't saying yeepee kaiyay mother fucker, he'll be saying yeepee kai yay mother(gunshot)!.
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I mean why not at least once? Dont they allow the use of the F word like once or twice in a PG-13 movie? I have seen several movies that allow it. Is there some sort of seperate rule with Mother Fucker? What gives?
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Oliphant basically hacks into the Fed's data system. He's a pissed off ex-DOD chief programmer out to settle the score and get rich in the process. Lots of great action. But the jet plane was indeed too much for me. Too familiar. Too beyond belief. The tunnel sequence is the "big scene" but for me the fight between Willis and Maggie Q is the best thing in the movie.
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right on frg10, pg13 killed john woo's mi3
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Your post at 5:15 got to me ya big lug, I'm stayin' home and rewatching Sin City....
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I'll keep coming until anybody REMEMBERS seein Ma-Fucking-Clane!
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The day this comes out I'll probably just stay home and rent Die Hard 1...
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This sounds like a mediocre experience at the movies. I'm not that starved for entertainment.
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thos movie r fucking ghey as shit. waaa "save our summer" cry me a fuckn river u pussys. what this summer needs is some swazie ripping out throats and shooting commies and jumping out of airplanes and shit that guys can ick anybodys ass. fuck seagal stallone lungren. van-dam arnie, all those chumps swazie is fucking tits man if i had 2 fuckk a guy it would b him
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It's been a fairly disappointing summer so far. First we had Emo-dancing Spidey, then we were given a three hour borefest featuring androgynous pirates and a monkey. If that's not bad enough a great comic villain is reduced to a cosmic storm cloud that devours planets. And to polish it off, a watered down family friendly sequel to one of the most violent franchises of all time.
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I'll go watch another movie with my girl, or pay for another movie and sneak into Live Free or Sell out. Then I'll go home and bang her as if there's no tomorrow. Which is likely since Die Hard turned PG.
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5:29.....
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I don't blame you guys. I'm kinda pissed myself. I'm not a big Die Hard fan to tell the truth, but I have watched them all and intended to see this regardless of the rating. I don't care how many 'motherfuckers' or how much blood is in a movie. I just like good movies. Seeing the trailers, with the daughter and the computer guy, and especially that Kevin Smith acting made me realize this has very little hope of being passable. Now if Walter hadn't kicked us to the curb, I probably would have gone anyway out of loyalty. But now, I see no reason to show up. The problem with a boycott is that if we don't go, the illegal aliens will go in our place. So it won't make a difference, but I still think we should stay away.
Even though Walter is at least half evil, if he's in a good movie I'll still see it. But not anything iffy. He lost his iffy privileges.
p.s. That Perfect Stranger PG-13 thing stood out to me too, because I had seen the film was pretty sure it was an R and thought it wasn't that bad. So his comments on that seemed really off and it made me wonder about his motivations. I think he wanted to seem cool to a bunch of geeks, and tried to say what he thought we wanted to hear to get a Rocky Balboa response from us. -
It can't be that bad? That's the same as DH, DH2DH and DHWAV
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not just seeing the ones that we dont want 2 but taking ones taht perfectely capable black audieces could talk to
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how come no one's mentioned the gay and cliched plot point of McClane's daughter getting kidnapped? Fuckin' Lifetime action movie bullshit. Could it get any cornier?
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What on earth did you people think was going to happen after all these years huh? How much Politically Correct bullshit, Christian spewing bullshit, & militant gay bullshit has happened over the past 15 years?! How often has anyone ever said anything against this crap? And when people do speak their mind (freedom of fuckin speach motherfuckers!) they just get labeled as "Trolls" and "ignorant" and whatever. It's just more pussyfication, and apathy is everywhere! Did you think society & Hollywood was going to give us realism and cool shit forever? Did you think the stark violence of films like The Wild Bunch and Die Hard would last? If you want movies with realism back then we have to fight for it. If you want to see films where the men are actually men and the violence is as real as can be, and people can fucking say how they fucking feel, and there is actually a fucking story and not just a bunch of fucking CGI, then start fighting back! Speak up! Support others who speak up! Otherwise we are going to get PG-13 crap forever and live in pseudo religious/Christian world till we drop dead "darnit"! Or as Butters would say, "oh, hamburgers!"
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and he raped george lucass
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they were pushing this quite hard, first time i've seen a heliocpter in central london with a massive die hard advert trailing behind it whilst it hivered around
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it because of u and your kind that invented pc u dirty pinko. u libral fagits r teh ones who took away our rambos and norris spilling lots of commie blood in the 80s. chritians just have a problem with tits and pussy or like someone making jesus look like a homo like scorsazy did.
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Watch 10 minutes of DH 4 here. Then lets talk Bubby. http://digg.com/movies/DIrect_ Link_Die_Hard_4_10_minute_prev iew_clip
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EVERY BODY MAKE A DIFF BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Watch 10 minutes of DH 4 here. Then lets talk Bubby. http://digg.com/movies/DIrect_ Link_Die_Hard_4_10_minute_prev iew_clip
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dude you are just a dumb fuck aren't you. First of all it's not liberals how cause this overly pc bullshit it's both the left and right. IF it's not a minority griping about racism (i'm a minority by the way) then it's the right wing conservative fuckheads bitching about morals or family values. It has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with censorship. Censorship can be done by both sides, at least the liberals defend the civil rights for people to say un pc things. So please get a clue before spewing stupid shit.
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Seriously, If Bruce Willis is reading this talkback, dude, why did you let Fox utterly screw up the last bastion of your career? I can understand wanting to make another Die Hard but really all this plus the talkbacks you did just make you out to be desperate to get people in seats to see this. Unfortunately, we're not (all) idiots to be bought off by answering questions and shit. This movie actually looked good but when they decided to slap the dreaded PG-13 on it I just said to myself 'why bother?' I expected more but I think that's asking too much. Maybe a rental if I don't forget about it.
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is brilliant, btw. It works better than a trailer and the song's not bad, either.
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I'm sure they knew it would be a problem when someone else has already done "Die Hard in a phonebooth" but man does that blow. Of course if they got the McClaine character right it would be a different story--but he's not a regular guy anymore. He hasn't been for one and a half movies really, ever since they dropped Bonnie Bedelia from the formula actually. Hell, unless they get back Alan Rickman, it's not worth seeing anymore of these. Yeah, I know he's dead, do you get it yet?
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see the movie or don't see the movie, are your fucking choices, or wait until the dvd. i'll end up seeing it becuase i've enjoyed the other 3, he gets the benefit of the doubt, if i dont like it *meh* but really you guys stop your fucking whining, willis is out promoting the movie, you think he has the time to read this site day in and day out to hear the opinions of fuckers who haven't even seen the movie but call him a cunt. the worst of you bitches are th fucker that bothc and moan and yet when he replies to your comments you gush into sycophant mode.
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DH 2 & 3 Sucked. I can't believe how many of you have convinced yourselves otherwise. Those sequels for the most part lacked the original's wit, pacing and replaced it with a bunch of explosions and stupid dialogue...And when did Fox become so afraid of producing a "R" rated action movie? (AvP; DH 4) and a PG Fantastic Four. It's like I posted in an earlier thread, they seem to have total disdain for their product and is only concerned with filling their coffers and any semblance of artistic integrity be damned.
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they were standing in line defend don imus werent they? u libs r the biggest censor of all. fatass walmart christians in the midwest have no power. tehy bitch about pussy on film and still teh pussy stays. but if lib lesbion complain about exploytation or that it shovnist then pussy is gone. dont u c? playboy is far more likly 2 get shut down by crazy femanazis b4 then by bigbuttcafe christ nerds. u know it 2 b true. rightwingers dont care about shit like that and protecting stuff like the earth n shit like uptight lids wit stick up there asshole. we could stil smoke in bars if rightwing had real power. they dont give fuck if u smoke only hollywood homos want 2 ban shit and make goverment 'protect u where your seatbelt n shit. your just another boring bysexual brainwashed fooll suck on my balls dickless toad
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what fucking country do u live in... Every fucking conservative and christian watch group was after cbs for the Janet Jackson nipple slip. Dude you're on a different planet you dumb fuck.
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if the right wing had power? are u serious. most of the billionaires in this country are right wing, our president is. dude pick up a newspaper or something.
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didt she? but imus get fired teh same week U R a disgusting grabtastic piece of brainwashed pansy shit suckitome!
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first of all i'm agreeing about too much pc and censorship, second of all you obviously have your head up your ass cuz janet jackson lost alot of tour dates and had a huge backlash against her. PLUS after the incident the FCC quadrupled their fines which caused HOward Stern to go to sattelite or did u not read that? can you read you stupid fuck...YOu're obviously brainwashed by the right into thinking such stupid things you inbred fuck!
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You are without a doubt the biggest cunt I have ever come across online. And that is fu(gunshot) saying something, you clueless prick.
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from the trailers anyway. I'll give it a look. Sure it sucks that Bruce can't drop F bombs for 2 hours but maybe it'll still be enjoyable.
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The minute Bruce Willis got involved in the talkback on Die Hard 4 it became evident that there was some damage control happening in regard to the PG-13 situation.
It's impossible to take the word of the star of the show on the quality of the film. There's a massive conflict of interest there whether he chooses to acknowledge it or not. -
has 2 tell his fart jokes on satillite for millions more dollors. our cuntry is being taken over! u sound almost as pathtic as he does. surly we r in a fashist dicktatorship when janet has 2 pay a fine 4 showing her tit during football. u sisifyed pussy wimp. u r expample of y this cuntry cant handle anything. u think u r living in star wars or some shit lol! boohoohoo; puss. i bet u want to fuck me in the ass dont u?
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B/c if it is, you are pretty funny.
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I mean, watch the Underworld movies. They are bloody as fu(gunshot). This smells like a studio decision 100%
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I sure hope so.
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Confirmed as a 15 years old or over in the UK so may contain the language you are not getting in the US. This is because of the violence apparently. Bruce was at the London premiere yesterday but no-one asked the question about the rating.
Blame the ratings on the modern audiences anyway as more often than not R is uncommercial. Most people over 25 only go to the cinema to see a movie once then wait for the DVD as their lives are too busy and you know in a few months you can see it as much as you want anyway so the studios know this and target the younger audiences as they do see the same films several times.
Sure there are some exceptions but for an expensive 3rd sequel 12 years after the last you always knew Fox were not going to make it R.
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Because he's a complete cunt, that's why.
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You seriously need to get yourself a dictionary.
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conservative (christian) republicans had 8+ yrs to fix all the "damage" done by the "evil liberals" (clinton) - are we better off now? - do the world a favor and jump off a very high roof you half-a-fag ape-dick automaton - p.s. there is no god or afterlife - you fucking tourist
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I enjoyed Underworld, considering that it was done for twenty million dollars. The first 15 mins. imho was balls to the wall.
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The Fu(GUNSHOT) is still better than Terminator 3's "She'll be back." But at least that film made it back with the "I'm back" line. Which I think was delivered pretty badass.
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was actually a kinda cool b-movie - peter strauss in han solo mode - michael ironside was a great shlock villain - and molly ringwald made for some good jail bait - thanks for bringing that memory back - douche
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Dude, you seriously need a remedial english course, because the public school system has seriously failed you...You make me sound like a lexicologist and i'm a high school dropout.
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Jun 20, 2007 7:59:00 PM CDT
At least Stallone won't let us down.Bring on John Rambo
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
Sucks too because this movie was filmed in my back yard, Baltimore my home. After reading this review I am not as excited to be honest.
I am REALLY looking forward to John Rambo. The trailer alone sold me. Hard fucking R all the way. Can't wait till next Summer. -
U will suck a flaming turd in hell for that jimmy! when i c prickless dickhole lik u sound off like that i almost have to think maybe u did come from monkey. I know all u ladies would like 2 suck on my thing
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spacehunter you make no sense in your arguements. you say things like janet didnt suffer or howard is still rich, ummm don imus aint' gonna needin foodstamps anytime soon either you IGNORANT, BACKWARD, INBRED,IDIOTIC,DUMB FUCK. Im a liberal who's willing to admit we've taken somethings a little too far but for to completely ignore the right wing moral groups makes u both ignorant and brainwashed at the same time. You're so stupid that u didn't even kow that fascism is an aspect of right wing politics u dumb fuck, left wing politics deterioates into communist while right wing deteriorates into fascism. See you don't even know your political ideaologies you dumb fuck, read a fucking book.
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school, dutifully completing his homework and studying what was assigned? Umm, yeah, it must have been the school system. What other possible explanation could there be?
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That is all.
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Us liberals are the only reason you're mom is still able to put food on your table, you inbred twat. With those foodstamps, She would have to sell her body down the docks just to put Cheerios on your plate. And with her body she ain't going to be able to affrod the milk as well. So go back to trolling the gayporn forums you ill-educated retard.
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and insert the new 1.. do i make u nervous? do i look lIKE your wife? u know u want me 2 break off a peice of somthing funky right in your butt U chocolate licker!. tAKE IT LIKE A MANSLAVE! MOW! MOW! MOW!
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that's such a typical ignorant answer. You can't respond to my criticism so you attack my sexuality...let me give u one more lesson. The more you ridicule others about being gay the more likely you yourself are the one with balls across his nose spacehunter...oh wait that might be too intelligent for you to understand... oh by the way i'm guessing u got b's and c's in school huh
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then wait til no copuntry for old men comes out
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that justin timbelake music has been messing up your mind u filthy pinko scum! U R LOWER THEN WALE SHIT SUCKBONE! i WILL PWN YOUR ASS!
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so no response to my idealogy arguement? spacehunter not only do i know i'm smarter than you but now it looks more likely like you're either a misguided 11 year old or lonely twentysomething who constantly thinks about gay sex.
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Does it get lower than F nowdays? Who left the door open so the retard could wander in?
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How bad ass was that little music video? Yippie-ki-yay motherfucker indeed.
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talking like i gotta know something or some shit; well listen u fucking cocksucking motherfucking fuckface" if it werent 4 people like me u would b speaking rushen u fucking godam fucking fucker eAT SHIT AND DIE U WOULD SELL US TO THE CHINEESE AIRFORCE! fUCK U U SLIMY PEICE OF SHIT! ASSHOOOLE!
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probably go see it just to see a die hard film at the cinema... but only if theres nothing else worth seeing. if theres an unrated version on dvd id rather have that as my first memeory of this film. they fucked up. if WAV could be a 15 (uk) and have unlimited 'fucks', why couldnt they do the same? look at what hot fuzz gets away with in the same rating. seriously.... is anyone under 13 gonna give a shit?! they were 2 when the last one came out! i usually dont give a shit when it comes to ratings, but what i do give a shit about is consistancy, which this obviously doesnt have.
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am i the only one being turned on by Spacehunters use of language? for a homophobe he sure does know how to turn a straight man gay.
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"talking like I gotta know something or some shit" -spacehunter3d
WoW!
p.s. my family is liberals and i have several who are officers in the armed forces and have served in Iraq! so fuck you spacehunter you're probably a fucking natioal guardsmen that sees action once a lifetime, my cousin has been to both Bosnia and Iraq so fuck you if it wasn't for people like me you'd be jobless and starving in the street. you ignorant fuck
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and it still was better than the original... so who knows?
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And it was seemed pretty brutal at times... it even had a fucking NUT torture sequence. I'm laughing at this whole "It's PG-13 so Bruce is a sellout and the whole fucking movie is going to blow!" Hey, I'm all for f-bombs and some bloody gore... but the naysayers here are fucking AICN hypocrits sometimes!
TBers piss and moan about the quality of movies, and how the quality of this sequel and that sequel are so fucked and childhood's are being raped because of it... YET, so many of you in this case are pissing and moaning and basically prejudging a movie because of its RATING! Because it can't have enough f-bombs and because it can't have the exact same amount of blood and gore as the other DHs did. Frackin' hypocrits. As if those details make or break a movie. Basically, there have been plenty of pretty hard PG-13s in the past (Um, guy ripping out a heart in Temple of Doom???). The action is there by the looks of it. If you watched the Willis/Smith video, we finally see that the wisecracking McClane we love is there. It WILL feel different and odd at first I'm sure because we haven't seen a true DH movie since 1990 (I don't count DH3)! 17 years ago. We're so attached to those first two movies that yeah, it'll be weird seeing another one!
What naysayers want in my book is a retread of the first DH. They want McClane coming to visit family/wife. They want that building (or airport) to be taken over by terrorists and they want McClane crawling through elevator shafts. BULLSHIT. We've seen that movie. We loved it, but we've seen it. We've seen the various knockoffs of it too, both good and bad (Under Siege 1 and 2, Speed, that awful Van Damme flick, etc.). So give me something more. Something different. McClane is 20 years older than the guy we saw in DH. It'd be lame to see a retread. -
Bourne Identity
,Bourne Supremacy, Casino Royale,
Last of the Mohicans,
Transporter 1 and 2,
Mission Impossible movies,
Red Dawn,
Big Trouble in Little China,
Temple of Doom, etc.
Pretty damn good action movies overall with plenty of death and mayhem and even a few f-bombs. Point being... this whole PG-13 thing is being blown waaaay out of proportion. Quality does not = a certain rating. Ridiculous.
As long as he kills mother(gun shot)ers (I actually hate that new gun shot trend but I gotta use it once), I'm good. I don't NEED to see their heads blown off, brains on the wall, or fifty bloody squibs exploding on their chest. Who cares? They die. Get over it;) -
I don't think that most of the people here are hypocrits. Most of the consensus is to watch this, but to wait for a version that will show more of what we would expect from a sequel such as this.And, as far as all those films you've named, most wouldn't be good analogies to this. For one, Temple of Doom was rated PG and the follow up was rate PG-13, two, James Bond did the same thing, it went from going PG to PG-13.When you see a change it how a film is rated, it does indicate (vaguely) what the product will be. If you've seen This Film Is Not Yet Rated, they pretty much break-down what each rating level will give you, i.e. cursing, violence, sex, you know things that were present in the previos Die Hard entries.I honestly can't think of a series that got better after the rating went down to cater to younger audiences, films like Police Academy, Zorro 2, or Speed 2. It's not that anyone here really wants this to fail, only that what we are seeing and hearing doesn't bode well for this movie.
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Were both rated R.
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Only Running Around Naked In the Woods, was R.
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You're half right on Mohicans. The original theatrical cut was PG-13. The director's cut is rated R. But Transporter was and is PG-13.
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Mohicans was R I guess. IMDB mentioned an edited version had a rating of PG-13. Anyway...
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can't believe that hasn't been the title of a post yet
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You may not need to see those things in an action movie, but others like myself do. Especially in a Die Hard movie. A movie like Lethal Weapon, Die Hard, Hard-Boiled, or The Last Boy Scout wouldn't have that visceral edge that action fans enjoy with PG-13. Sometimes filmakers need the leeway of an R-rating to make for a more effective action scene. Casino Royale rode the edge, but that doesn't mean that all movies should be forced to be that way. Most directors can't work that way, and why should they have to? Toning down Die Hard 4 is a lame marketing decsion made by assholes and has nothing to do with art or entertainment value.
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Agree with you 100%, I do. It sucks that they went that route. It shows the studio's obvious insecurities and outright idiotic approach to movies nowadays. They are truly out of touch with the audience.
BUT, PG-13 is not, and should not be the deciding factor for someone to not go see this flick and judge the final product rather than rely on trailers. Those flicks you mentioned had that edge... I agree. But the fact is, the rating system is so fucked that one movie rated PG-13 is fluffy as hell, while another (case in point Casino Royale among others) is pretty damn hard and looks like an R-Rated flick.
The core of the Die Hard films is John McClane. Not the f-bombs. Not the bloody kills. There are plenty of awful action movies with those extreme elements that have been forgotten and/or don't hold a candle to Die Hard because of that character. If that's there, then about 75% of what we love about Die Hard is there.
Anyway, I agree with you. Well said. But the PG-13 thing is still blown out of proportion until we actually SEE THE MOVIE. If it turns out to be fluff... then they fucked it up. If it turns out to be a pretty hard PG-13... then well done.
I for the record, I just rewatched Last Boyscout... a movie that I remembered as a gem in the action genre. Well, it's really pretty awful. It reminded me of Arnold's LAST ACTION HERO. Full of action cliches to the extreme. The only saving factor is Willis... who is pretty much John McClane in that one too. -
Was supposed to be full of cliches, it was riff on the action genre. I watched Last Boy Scout (Jesus,everything is the last) not too long ago (I thing on BET) and I laughed at the football player pulling out a gun and shooting the opponent, now that was funny.
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Sorry. I'm not seeing a PG-13 Die Hard movie. Ever. Period. As far as I'm concerned it never existed. I hope Len Wiseman, Mark Bomback, Bruce Willis, and Mac dude all die in a fire. I'd honestly rather be repeatedly kicked in the balls while watching Gigli with my eyelids stapled to my forehead than see this goddamn travesty of a movie.
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we just want consistencey in one of our most beloved series of films. imagine you're at a packed out first night screening of die hard 4 and the crowd is made up of utter die hard geeks.... now imagine how insane that audience would get when McLane says "yippykiyay motherfucker!" the place would roar with cheers. that isnt gonna happen this time round. infact it'll either get boo'ed or have people shouting the line anyway. Die Hard was the movie that didnt give a fuck.... and now it does. if it was any other movie it wouldnt matter.... but its DIE HARD!
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So lack of swearing, and explicit violence aside (let's be honest - the original DH didn't NEED them), it's not even a particularly outstanding film?
Shame to see the DH franchise go out with not a bang, not even a whimper, but a 'Meh'. -
You FUCKING COMPLETE CUNT.
The most recent dvd's of the following:
DIE HARD IS RATED "18"
DIE HARD 2 IS RATED "18"
DIE HARD 3: 15
CUNT. -
i HOPE BRUCE WILLIS GETS MELTED DOWN AND TURNED INTO FUCKING GLUE OR WELLIES.
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and every bond film ever has never had a rating above pg-13 or 12.
thick fuck.
its in the context of the films.
idiot.
fuck bruce willis. -
PUT THE CUNT IN A MEAT SLICER FEET FIRST AND TAKE A SLICE OUT OF HIM EVERYDAY UNTIL YOU REACH HIS SCALP.
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Yippy Kai Yay Mother fu(gunshot) is blasphemy. Almost as stupid as Yippy Kai Yay Mister Falcon. Hollywood continues to buttrape and water down our classic franchises. FUCK YOU FOX FUCKING FUCK YOU IN YOUR FUCKING FUCKHOLES YOU FUCKTASTIC FUCKS!!!!!I will NEVER forgive those cunts for what they did to AvP. I still haven't decided whether to forego seeing Live Free and just wait for the DVD. I rented The Last Boyscout yesterday... haven't seen it in a LONG time, should be a blast.
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because you're sucking the studio's c(gunshot) ever so gently...
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"Live free or sell out";
"Lick b(gunshot) or die not too hard";
"Just another action movie with a pissant villain compared to Alan Rickman" AND
"Summercamp with Kevin Smith & the Apple Kid"! -
BURN THEM ALL ALIVE.
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and shut the fuck up. Thank you.To turketron aka GabrielGray aka 13yr old kid: please leave now. You already ruined half a dozen threads (and that's why you keep being banned)To the other mindless haters: I don't like the Mac guy and Kevin Smith is annoying like (gunshot), BUT: in LFoDH they both were ok, actually Justin Long did a very good job of not being annoying at all.Stop insulting Bruce Willis, he's not responsible for the MPAA's fucked up rating system or the fucked up studio decision to make this PG-13. Save your hate and bitchin' for Rupert Murdoch, Tom Rothman and those other retarded Fox execs.
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...but Casino Royale was actually cut in the U.S. in order to receive its rating.
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Jun 21, 2007 9:48:08 AM CDT
its gonna suck when the boar runs out of saurkraut
by jar jar binks rules forever
its gonna suck when the boar runs out of saurkraut
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Waiter? Check Please. Fucking sell-out
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NepomukProebstl informed me of that as well. I really want to see the R rated version...
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I think I remember Goldeneye had to cut that sex scene with the fat guy and Famke, a little in order to garner a PG-13.
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FUCK YOU
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If the movie started of as a PG-13 franchise then fine, but Die Hard didn't. You said if LFODH is true to McClaine then it's all good. However half his character belongs in a R-rated film (f-bomb droppin and mashed to a bloody pulp, while killing bad guys HARD.) I think people are underestimating those aspects of his character, and without any returning characters from the previous sequels, we need as much McClaine intact as possible. Frankly Bruce's performance in DH3 was one of the few things that reminded me that it was a Die Hard movie. BTW I don't get your beef with the Last Boy Scout, the script was pretty darn tight with snappy dialogue and a few great touches (Billy Blanks suicide, squirrel on Bruce's head, the foul mouthed daughter, one punch death, the list goes on and on) It was cliche as far as that it followed an action formula but within it created a lot of memorable moments (and intense action scenes). You mentioned the Transporter 1 and 2 on your list of great PG-13 movies, but I thought those were pretty crap. There's only so much goofy Kung-fu I can take and I don't believe he's in any danger throughout the movie. It's just an acrobat movie and since I don't watch the Olympics because it bores me, well you get the point. Later!
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Ha ha...yeah, I've been wary of plastic bags ever since I saw that movie!!!
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ASSED RAPED IN PRISON FOR THIS
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A 1920s cowboy in Hollywood will do you all some good.
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