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UPDATED WITH NEW IMAGES!! High Res Pics Of That Damn Bat Pod!! + A New Image, Too!!

Merrick here...
The Giant Penny sent in two more shots of the Batpod (is that one word, or two?) from the New York Licensing Show. Maybe our best look yet? The more I think about it, this thing looks like some kind of Uber Sybian...

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Giant Penny. We appreciate you sending these in!


Merrick here...
Yesterday, Warner Bros. issued high resolution images of the new Batsuit from THE DARK KNIGHT. This is the same image that Entertainment Weekly ran a lower-ressier version of last week.

You know...the new suit looks cool to me and all. But, whenever I look at this, I smell action figure variants. You know: "Deep Sea Batman", "Arctic Fresh Batman", "Jiffy Pop Batman", stuff like that. Makes me a bit uneasy. Anyway, today Warners released two high res Bat Pod images from THE DARK KNIGHT. The first is the same shot that recently appeared in the LA Times. The second is a clearer shot of the vehicle. Harry says this looks like a RETURN OF THE JEDI Speeder Bike mated with a Monster Truck. I can't get past the image of flattened little squirrel pelts mushed in between this thing's treads (those big wheels thumping when the carcasses cycle around as the Bat Pod races down the street).

Just not quite the same without Meredith Viera grinding it.

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  • June 19, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST


    by jimmy rabbitte


  • June 19, 2007, 2:45 p.m. CST

    That's HUGE!

    by Yack Backer


  • June 19, 2007, 2:45 p.m. CST


    by jimmy rabbitte

    he's denting the roof of that cruiser...

  • June 19, 2007, 2:45 p.m. CST

    The Bat Crotch Rocket

    by DonkeyTron

    Bad Ass. Can't wait.

  • June 19, 2007, 2:45 p.m. CST

    second is the new first

    by garcicr


  • June 19, 2007, 2:45 p.m. CST

    He looks like a Transformer with a cape.

    by Snookeroo

    Just sayin'.

  • June 19, 2007, 2:46 p.m. CST

    "Hey Bat-Dick, get off the roof of my car!"

    by Yack Backer

    Seriously, what an ass. :)

  • June 19, 2007, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Damn it

    by garcicr

    stupid delay

  • June 19, 2007, 2:47 p.m. CST


    by Mastashake

    umm wow

  • June 19, 2007, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Health and safety no no....

    by UndeadXeke

    I have visions of his cape getting caught in the back wheel and mangling him...

  • June 19, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Just Diggn the yellow bat

    by w_woody

    Or has no one noticed the bat on his chest is yellow. The other stuff will be hidden, much like any or lack of detail in the last film. Batman is mostly out at night so unless he's standing under a in said pic...he's going to be all dark and I'm very cool with it.

  • June 19, 2007, 2:50 p.m. CST


    by DoubleFantasy the lead designer involved with this scene with the Bat-pod and according to him and his second art designer, Chris Murray, who is working on The Dark Knight, this little baby can reach speeds of up to 150mph which it does in one scene at least.

  • June 19, 2007, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Seems like the cape

    by Crestfallen

    would get tangled with the rear tire everytime batman slows down. ---

  • June 19, 2007, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Yo dudes

    by captainhamsack

    I'm a registered n00b at this site, although I've been visiting it for months lol. Anywho, the Bat Pod looks pretty cool. I just hope they don't end up to cram too much into this sequel

  • June 19, 2007, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Isn't Batman sort of Anti-Gun?

    by Kraken

    Just saying, those cannons of the Bat-Pod don't look very hippie friendly.

  • June 19, 2007, 2:51 p.m. CST

    But can he bend and flex?

    by RobRed1

    Just hope he can move smoothly, gracefully, and with some flexibility. Not like the rubber incased figures from the old movies. The action figures had more range of motion than the actors.

  • June 19, 2007, 2:51 p.m. CST

    I really dig this bike its...

    by kingoflight

    Got the consistancy from the first film with the chunky tyre and the exposed wheels, pretty cool.

  • June 19, 2007, 2:52 p.m. CST

    cape in tire...

    by w_woody

    If you look at the pod..the feet rest on the back of the thing just in front of the's like he's lying down on it...the cape stops short of his feet so...I don't see how it could get caught unless he sits up in the thing to far. Of course there's always that chance and saftey would say it needs a fender on the back tire.

  • June 19, 2007, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Just got back from the embiggening, and...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    I think I see a nipple...

  • June 19, 2007, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Finding the bat on his chest is like Where's Waldo

    by Snookeroo

    There's so much crap to sift through, it takes thirty minutes to find the damn bat.

  • June 19, 2007, 2:54 p.m. CST

    No one would cut you up on the school run on that thing

    by Gabba-UK

    Me likey like. Can I put me name down for one.....

  • June 19, 2007, 2:55 p.m. CST


    by Lane

    courtesy of the suits at WB of course. bat-copter here we come. sorry nolan, this is what you get when you helm a $100+M pic.

  • June 19, 2007, 3 p.m. CST

    not to whine

    by lionbiu

    but the bat pod aint exactly practical when it comes to 90 degree turns or more. It looks cool though :)

  • June 19, 2007, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Dark Knight needs atmosphere

    by Crestfallen

    I like Batman Begins, but it was lacking atmosphere. It had a gritty, pseudo-reality driven feel, I suppose like the Bourne movies, but nothing of the fantasy/gothic tone which the comic batman is associated with.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:03 p.m. CST

    oh it's practical alright...

    by Lane

    for high-speed violent cape removal via the back tire.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:04 p.m. CST


    by w_woody

    If the stunt driver wrecks this thing via the Cape in the back tire...and it doesn't show up on Youtube Immidiately...I'll boycott this movie. That would probably be the funniest thing ever...

  • June 19, 2007, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Still no Bat-Anti-Shark-Spray?

    by DerLanghaarige


  • June 19, 2007, 3:06 p.m. CST

    "Yeah, I'm standing on your car... what you gonna do?"

    by modlight

    great pic. Still a little Bibleman.. but the Bat-pod is awesome its just the name Bat-pod is a little buzzwordy.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Looks more like the Lawmaster than the Lawmaster!

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    The should have had this in the Judge Dredd movie.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Batman's outfit looks like a big tire tread.

    by Snookeroo

    Word has it "Goodyear" is stamped on the batbutt. Draw your own conclusions.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:08 p.m. CST

    I agree with someone from the last TB...

    by stones_throw

    ...Nolan loves making Batman look gay.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:11 p.m. CST

    with the talent involved in this film

    by mrbong

    "The Dark Knight" looks pretty close to being an entirely unfuckable project, does it not? i too am dubious about multiple vehicles featuring in these films, but hey, rather this curious looking bike that some sort of blatant quadbike product placement, no? i just hope that the "BatPod" is not in this film at the expense of a scene where a handy can of Bat Shark Repellant would be of use.......

  • June 19, 2007, 3:11 p.m. CST


    by tehgreekhammer

    pretty bad ass. <p> cannot wait for this movie <p> this is what you get when you have a director and writer that really cares about the material. <p> Not some bleached blonde, too tanned cokehead who only wants to put his stamp on things. <p> Keep it up Nolan. <p> Anyone know when the first trailers going to be popping up?

  • June 19, 2007, 3:13 p.m. CST

    This is very cool.

    by Quintus_Arrius


  • June 19, 2007, 3:15 p.m. CST

    So cool!

    by MrFloppy

    And hot XD

  • June 19, 2007, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Seems cool...

    by broken ring

    This seems cool enough, but... Why doesn't he just use the tumbler?

  • June 19, 2007, 3:24 p.m. CST

    I don't think it is really a bike.

    by Dosomo

    Looking at how minimalist it is, and the name "Bat Pod". I think it may be something like an escape vehicle from a damaged or destroyed batmobile. The batmobile is about to blow up, and Batman hits a switch and this thing breaks free with him on the back. Just a thought.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:25 p.m. CST

    I can just about live with the batsuit...

    by henrydalton

    ...but the bike? Hmm. There's a lot in this film that could go wrong (ahem Ledger ahem), but I've got faith in Mr Nolan, he's never let me down yet :) Oh btw, my girlfriend worked on this film and just so you know, 1) Chris Nolan is a grumpy man, 2) She touched a plaster cast of Christian Bale's cock, and 3) I've got a little bit of miniature Gotham City on my desk :)

  • June 19, 2007, 3:27 p.m. CST


    by Err


  • June 19, 2007, 3:28 p.m. CST

    It's Mr. Mackey's IT Scooter, I tell ya.

    by uss cygnus

    I'm not sayin'...I'm just sayin'.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:28 p.m. CST


    by Err

    Go Batman Go!

  • June 19, 2007, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Not a huge fan of robo-batman

    by Undercover Fanboy

    But then lighting will play a large part on the way it looks on film. I mean, ideally Batman's really nothing more than a silhouette anyway, right? Got nothing against a sort of "realistic" origin of the suit itself, but I guess I was just hoping it'd be a little sleeker the second time around. And why the hell haven't they gone with white contacts, like what they used in that fan-made Batman/Aliens/Preditor movie a few years back? Or silver lenses? That'd be creepy shit.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:29 p.m. CST

    The problem with machine guns on movie bikes

    by eraser_x

    is that they fire only straight ahead, which seems highly limiting, given that motorcycles are not like airplane fighters--i.e., a bike rider can't just go pointing his bike in any direction! And a bike has very limited distance/time to avoid a blown-up target! Yes; I am a nerd.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:31 p.m. CST

    What a movie motorcycle needs is a way

    by eraser_x

    to decouple the left handlebar from the right handlebar such that the right handlebar separately controls the (recoil-compensating) gun on a dedicated turret while the left handlebar controls the bike. Yes; I'm still a nerd.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:34 p.m. CST

    I just don't see where this fits on the tumbler

    by Ricky Henderson

    for him to eject from. it's a big car, but not big enough to hold this bat-pod thingy.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:36 p.m. CST

    I think Dosomo is right

    by darquelyte

    I had the same thought when I saw it and read the name. It comes out of the Batmobile, as an escape pod...thus the name. Look at the tire...Yeah, I'm thinking that's EXACTLY what it is.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:36 p.m. CST

    I can see how to suit works honestly...

    by Datascream

    the parts in the suit where the fabric and the (leather?) separate looks to help improve upon maneuverability. How I see it the open areas where the leather separates looks to be a more durable stretching fabric that allows the limbs and torso to breathe and bend, unlike the X-men costumes where they were basically all one piece as it seemed cost a lot of movement and flexibility. So the whole "tron" bullshit everyone has been screaming about actually has a purpose and allows more freedom then the other suit did. I'd say the upgrade is well worth it honestly, and it actually looks cool too.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:37 p.m. CST

    New suit befitting for movie title

    by syoreed

    I was also a little worried about the suit variations, but if you take into consideration the title THE DARK KNIGHT, the suit looks a little more like knight armor... or maybe that's just wishful thinking.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:37 p.m. CST

    "I got a huge robot bat on top of my car!"

    by Ricky Henderson

    and he's pissed! requesting backup!

  • June 19, 2007, 3:38 p.m. CST

    I think it has something to do with speed

    by trombone

    Joker is fast and Bats needs to be able to catch up with him and respond quickly. I like the new suit, I just wish it had nipples.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Mereidth Vieira Link

    by darquelyte

    The link Merrick posted has one too many ? in it. Here is the 25 character Tiny Url:

  • June 19, 2007, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Tron called........................

    by Stuntcock Mike

    He wants his shit back.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Will the BatSkateboard be far behind???

    by Doctor_Sin

    Huge ass wheels...teeny-tiny board.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:43 p.m. CST

    For those who dont understand or something

    by emeraldboy

    Bruce wayne seems himself as a knight. A crusader if you will against the forces of greed, corruption etc. Hence the armour and the title of Dark Knight.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Oh, and the headlights are too tiny

    by Doctor_Sin

    Giving Bats a visibility of like 3 while driving.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Looks like the Green Machine.

    by rev_skarekroe

    Except, y'know, not green.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:50 p.m. CST

    the bat man on the bike is the old suit!

    by eric haislar

    so that means he gets this suit for some other reason in the movie.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:52 p.m. CST

    the batsuit and tumbler didn't look that hot in pics

    by antonphd

    but kicked ass in the movie in the right lighting and motion. i expect the same from the new suit and the bike. when i extrapolate what they should be like in the movie based on that thinking... they look sweet as fucking hell.

  • June 19, 2007, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Sure hope his cape doesn't get caught on the back tire.

    by kikuchiyoboy

    No capes.

  • June 19, 2007, 4 p.m. CST

    From batman on film. Sounds sweet!

    by eric haislar

    The "look" of Heath Ledger as The Joker according to "The Goon": * The Joker’s face is different, yet similar, to the pictures that have been released. * Extremely different both look-wise and in manner to the two previous live-action interpretations. * The white face looks to be “cracking” -- like dried-out face makeup. * The Joker’s hair is long, greasy, and colored blondish/brown with green “highlights.” * His clothing gives off a “…a demented Willy Wonka” vibe. The Joker also “…wears a long velvet purple trench coat with a diamond pattern purple shirt, a green vest, and very waist high purple pants. He sports purple gloves and a very long chain wallet.” * There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING funny about TDK's Joker. He's one sadistic bastard. He'll be hated. * From what “The Goon” has heard, Heath is taking The Joker to “…all-new f***ed-up levels.”

  • June 19, 2007, 4:02 p.m. CST

    "I saw this move in that Teen Wolf movie!"

    by Yack Backer

    Okay, Bats, now seriously, get off my roof!

  • June 19, 2007, 4:07 p.m. CST


    by BrooseTheScharuk

    ...I'm noticing that the two shots with Batman are from the same publicity shoot. If you look behind Pod-Bats, it's the same building in the background behind the same police car with its lights switched off. ANYWAY, does no one realize that we're getting this suit basically as a result of all the complaints about the lousy camera work in the fight scenes? The reason they shot it that way was because they couldn't make bats look like an ass-kicking ninja with that chunkie, restrictive "neckbrace" suit he was wearing. How does a guy look agile and graceful in that? Although it may be a bit busy design-wise, he's going to strike a way better silhouette. Also, there are no nipples on the suit (or is that just a running joke, because it's pretty tired). Nor is the bat on his chest yellow- that's just reflected light, I think (for proof, check out the camera phone pics of the stuntman in the shitty rubber version that are posted at Batman on Film). Lastly, THE POD IS PART OF THE TUMBLER. I'M SURE OF IT. I think the tumbler probably gets munched or blown-up or something, and Batman makes his escape out the front. Doesn't anybody remember the rocket-launcher position Bats assumed (and later Gordon) in between the two seats in the car? Doesn't it look like he's just sitting on that, but outside the car? Use a little informed speculation (ie: remember how things played out in Batman Begins, remember that Nolan's body of work is nothing like Joel Schumacher's, remember that the entirety of planet fucking earth has made it pretty clear to Warner- who want your money- that another Batman and Robin or even Forever will not be tolerated). I think a lot of the bitching goes on here because a lot of unimaginitive and ill-informed people need some way to sound smart, and petty disparagement is the only way they know how. Are there going to be brand new toys to sell to the kiddies next summer based on that new suit design? You betcha. The thing people aren't getting here is that you will never EVER get away from that. But this series- as overseen by Chris Nolan- is the furthest away from a shiny toy commercial that any big-screen live-action Batman is ever likely to be. Bitch away about your fantasies of a cloth suited, white-lensed or Alex Ross-looking Batman, but you're just not going to get that. It just doesn't make sense for film (especially when Nolan's trying to give it as much real-world believeability as possible). And if you all had any sense, you would be thanking whatever you thank when you do your thanking that we've got a director who knows that, instead of some sucker at the teat of nepotism who doesn't know shit about filmmaking and insists that it "should be more like the comics". This new suit design will do wonders for batman's mobility, so that he can finally move in the way Batman is supposed to move, instead of looking like he's wearing a hollowed out marble bust over his head and shoulders. Plus, we'll be seeing a lot less of that puffy rubber bendy look at the elbows and shoulders that makes him look like just an actor in a rubber suit. Don't you people want that?

  • June 19, 2007, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Nolan likes him some big ass tires

    by monorail77

    First tumbler, now this. Safety first, children. Actually I support the speculation that this is an escape device from the tumbler.

  • June 19, 2007, 4:08 p.m. CST

    meredith viera link

    by monorail77

    Hilarious. Grind it, Mer!

  • June 19, 2007, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Green Machine: HAHAHAHAHA

    by monorail77

    Well done rev_skarekroe. I knew I had seen that thing somewhere before! Can it be long before I'm buying my kids a new pedalling Bat-Pod/Green Machine? I think not.

  • June 19, 2007, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Somewhere, 2 fat kids are chest bumping

    by Puddleglum

    or is that kind of thing reserved solely for Transformer movies?

  • June 19, 2007, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Wussup wit the guns

    by Phategod2

    What happend to the "BATMAN CODE"

  • June 19, 2007, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Harry got it right this time...

    by lynxpro

    It does seem to be an homage to the Speeder Bike. To me, it seems to low to the ground. Why would Bats waste money on this when he could simply have a badazz street bike like Blade?

  • June 19, 2007, 4:14 p.m. CST

    the armor

    by Silverglade

    To my eyes, the armor looks very much like that in Batman Begins when Lucius (Morgan Freeman) was introducing Bruce to the various tools and so on, he pulled out that drawer with the kevlar body armor that supposedly cost 300 grand a pop. This looks much like it before Bruce had spray painted it all black. That armor also had the muscular shaping.

  • June 19, 2007, 4:18 p.m. CST

    I said that too SG

    by Phategod2

    It looks like the suit without spray except for the cowl. I have to look at that now in Hi res

  • June 19, 2007, 4:18 p.m. CST

    I too

    by Bloo

    was thinking that it shot out of the tumbler, that Bats would lean down like Gordon did to fire the gun, and this would pop out, of course that would mean that your drivers seat would have to line up exactly with the driver's side tires and I'm not sure how that would work out

  • June 19, 2007, 4:22 p.m. CST

    maybe it come out the middle

    by Phategod2

    and there are hidden tires in the middle of the tumbler or the tires converge like in Batman Returns.

  • June 19, 2007, 4:23 p.m. CST

    The costume looks fine

    by zambonike

    but it looks a but too advanced say like iron man. But the two wheeler looks pretty pathetic and not so cool.

  • June 19, 2007, 4:25 p.m. CST

    it looks rad to me.

    by mr. brownstone

    seriously, I want one.

  • June 19, 2007, 4:25 p.m. CST

    I agree, Bloo

    by Silverglade

    I agree with your idea. The tumbler seems rather confined in the "cockpit" with not much room to move, say, to the back seat to eject on some pod bike. The front gun chassis device would certainly make sense.

  • June 19, 2007, 4:30 p.m. CST

    stop it

    by Shakes

    alright, quit accusing the toy company of being responsible for the new bat suit as an excuse to sell variants. In the first two movies he wore the same suit and they still had they constant variations. And in Forever and 'And Robin they had a couple different suits in the film, but dozens of different suits on the figures.

  • June 19, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST

    suit WAS different in Returns

    by Lane

    abs looked more like vents as opposed to ripe pears.

  • June 19, 2007, 4:38 p.m. CST

    I thought Bats worked for the Gotham Trans. Dept

    by Puddleglum

    which is why he was driving a steamroller and paving roads at night/ No?

  • June 19, 2007, 4:39 p.m. CST


    by Playkins

    FUCKING AWESOME!!! I can't WAIT to see this on the bigscreen!!

  • June 19, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST

    About the different costume....

    by Playkins

    The suit has been different in EVERY "Batman". In Forever and B&R there were even different Batsuits within each movie. Serioulsy, why would anyone want to see the same thing again and again?

  • June 19, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    pure escapism

    by Marillion

    Chalk me up as one in favor of the bike being part of an escape device from the tumbler. Otherwise, wouldn't they call it a bat-bike or bat-cycle? "Pod" would make one believe it's an escape mechanism... At least there still aren't any Goddamn floppy fins or neon on it... Love the suit..

  • June 19, 2007, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Toys and Geek Culture

    by the_ro_show

    Even if the toy companies are responsible for the new batsuit, what exactly is the big deal? Practically everything people on this site love was created to sell toy. You think National Comics commissioned Bob Kane to create Batman for artistic reasons? They wanted to sell more comics. The more comics they sold the more ad space they could sell. Ad space used to sell... toys. That worked out ok, so to all the haters can I ask you why you think this somehow won't?

  • June 19, 2007, 4:44 p.m. CST

    You are right Phategod2

    by mikethemeek

    Batman has never used guns. The three guns on each side may shoot something besides bullets, but it surely doesn't look that way. some of you have suggested that they shoot flame. That would really be a bad idea while he is moving forward, especially with his face wellplaced to be engulfed in flames that would be pushed over him by the air current of his forward movement. also, I'm thinking that a cape drapped over the back wheel of this motorcycle-ly pod-thing is a bad idea. Make for hillarious outtakes though. Oh, and one more thing. When they add Robin to this series, he won't need a side car; he can just jump on Bat's back- Ace and Gary style.

  • June 19, 2007, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Paul Pope-inspired?

    by donnarumsfeld

    It looks like the fold-up batcycle from Paul Pope's Batman Year 100.

  • June 19, 2007, 4:49 p.m. CST

    why is it called a pod?

    by BadMrWonka

    I'm still at a loss there. why not just called it the iCycle? I mean, if you're wanting to go that route...

  • June 19, 2007, 4:52 p.m. CST

    much better batsuit

    by Admiral Kirk

    his head was too big in the last one- reminded me of the first batman movie where keaton couldn't turn his head so he had to turn his whole shoulders everytime he looked in a different direction. The only thing I'd change would be the ears- I want them to pin backwards in a more aerodynamic fasion and just be more subtle. Kindof like the production art for wolverine's mask for xmen 1- Speaking of keaton- the enormity of the worst cast superhero in history still hasn't worn over the years- if you're gonna cast a batman who is so unsuited for the role that he needs a prosthetic jaw just to look remotely like batman in the suit- why not use your dead grandma and prop her up with chicken wire and sticks- it would work just as good with the right makeup-yes I'm still bitching about the first one.

  • June 19, 2007, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Oh dear ....

    by livrule

    AND ... his bit of cake is UGLY in this one too!!

  • June 19, 2007, 4:56 p.m. CST

    photographer's reflection

    by Jubba

    is that a reflection of the photographer in the batman picture? if so, well least he wasn't naked.

  • June 19, 2007, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Oh no......

    by Cleyu

    Batman is starting to get silly again. Shame...........

  • June 19, 2007, 5:11 p.m. CST

    To be fair..

    by Gozu

    The "Tumbler" looked stupid when I first saw a photo of it, but it worked in the movie. I'm willing to give this and the Robocop suit a chance. Also, I suspect it comes out of the Tumbler much the way in "Batman Returns" the Batmobile was able to split right down the middle in case Batman needs to go down a really thin alleyway. He thinks of everything. Would also explain why it's a "pod" (as in escape pod). Otherwise it's just a very silly motorcycle.

  • June 19, 2007, 5:22 p.m. CST

    BrooseTheScharuk-I completely agree!!!!

    by ckone

    The first suit in BB was bulky and if everyone remembers a mix up of all the things Bruce had at hand thanks to his training. the talons were part of his Ninja outfit that he kept in the batsuit design..this new one shows that he has brought his suit to the next level, time has passed and he has augmented and improved the suit. Nothing on it is wasted...each piece has a function, it LOOKS great but it also serves a purpose. Armor?check,utility belt? check,talons that shoot the hell out??? check, moveable headpiece?FINALLY check! It's not like they gave him green tiger stripes or some thing right??? ALSO, the guns on the Bat-pod thing, they could be any number of non-lethal weaponry, they could shoot out bean bags for all we know.. but for everyone who says Batman doesn't use guns, YES he is against them, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't employ them when necessary, and that still doesn't mean the he shoots people with them...he could use them for all different types of things...C'mon, after Nolan delivered such an achievement as BB, you guys are gonna freak over that??? I for one would hope that the B-pod is not an escape vehicle as it would mean that A)they are retreading a storyline (however vastly different) from a previous Batflick and B)Would rather not have the Tumbler be so gimmicky...that said, I trust what Nolan is doing. Can't wait for this one!!!!

  • June 19, 2007, 5:26 p.m. CST


    by w_woody

    The bat on his chest is yellow. Look at it in the gap between his pecks. It's still a light color when it should be shadowed if it was black. I thought it was the light too but I'm pretty sure it's not.

  • June 19, 2007, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Let the micro over-analyzing begin...

    by DoctorWho?

    ...oh, I see that it has. "Wha?... big fat tires? Man this movie's gonna suck ass!!!!"

  • June 19, 2007, 5:30 p.m. CST

    When do we see a bat-segway?

    by MrCere

    Are they saving that one for the big climax of the film or will they release that image too? I hear it has really cool yellow bat symbols on the wheels.

  • June 19, 2007, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Mighty Morphing Power Batman

    by azzezino

    I don't like this new look and I certainly don't like the big futuristic hillbilly ATV. What is this, Batman Beyond?!?!?

  • June 19, 2007, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Agreed it does look like they want to sell toys.

    by superninja


  • June 19, 2007, 5:39 p.m. CST

    I don't like it

    by grandlarseny

    one bit. How is a motorcycle supposed to work with such gigantic and flat wheels? And I already griped about this before, but I'm done with the whole modified batsuit thing in every fucking batman movie. Still can't wait to see it though

  • June 19, 2007, 5:41 p.m. CST

    The sillhouette is much better, especially with

    by superninja

    the cowl. But ditch the pattern, or better yet - do not light up the Bat like a friggin' Christmas tree!

  • June 19, 2007, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Maybe this will be like another recent superhero

    by superninja

    film where Bats is on top of the world, stopping crime in Gotham, wearing showy suits, and then..BAM...enter the Joker. Also, there will be a Bruce Wayne dance number.

  • June 19, 2007, 5:47 p.m. CST


    by Obi-Have

    This flick will rock whatvah the crappy design of an very expendable-ish bike and you know it.

  • June 19, 2007, 5:48 p.m. CST

    those Gloves are mean looking! i want em

    by pipergates

    the shoes however looks like old-fashioned dancing shoes with long ugly socks sticking out. haveto admit the whole thing looks better in hi-res...still looks to Tronized...those abs?

  • June 19, 2007, 5:48 p.m. CST

    The Pod

    by Turd Furgusen

    I'm pretty sure that the Pod is the front and back tires on one side of the Tumbler. Ol' Bats uses it as an escape when the rest of the vehicle explodes.<P> It's not supposed to be a mobile as bike, but is the precursor to the "Bat Bike".<p> Now where is Daniel19 the douche or whatever the name is to tell me that "We know."? The guy just didn't get my comment in the other talkback.<p> I wish people could read sarcasm sometimes.

  • June 19, 2007, 5:52 p.m. CST

    said it before: Codpiece is not intimidating enough

    by pipergates

    heath ledger has seen much worse than that!

  • June 19, 2007, 5:53 p.m. CST

    remember in dark night returns...

    by ckone

    Y'know , the Frank Miller comic, Batman is fighting cops, and is running accroos a clothesline? His Inner monologue is saying somthing like, "why else would I have a bgi yellow target on my chest?" after he gets shot in the chest , and you see a bullet proof vest under the bat Symbol?? IF they do make that bat yellow, or gold on this suit..that's gotta be why..I wonder how it would look. hmmmmm

  • June 19, 2007, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Ahh yeah, now THAT'S a bike!

    by DDeRosia82

    Although I'm just as worried as everyone else about his cape getting tangled up back there. </P><p>As for the guns, they're positioned low to the ground, so I would guess they're exclusively for slowing cars down with some blasts to the rear tires.

  • June 19, 2007, 5:54 p.m. CST

    He might bust out with a dance

    by superninja

    number on top of that car.

  • June 19, 2007, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Of course his cape won't get tangled up in it

    by superninja

    it's just a movie. His cape makes shapes, remember?

  • June 19, 2007, 5:56 p.m. CST

    that bike would look good on DREDD

    by pipergates

    they have to do a Bats/Dredd flick with Bale and Vinnie Jones! Simon Bisley doing all the designing! Motorhead doing the soundtrack!

  • June 19, 2007, 5:56 p.m. CST

    I have to agree with Merrick

    by Turd Furgusen

    I don't like the suit that much either. It looks like they are trying to hard.<p> Hopefully it's an in-between stage for a much cooler suit in the third installment.<p> Hopefully with a yellow or gold bat like ckone mentioned. Gold would look cool.

  • June 19, 2007, 5:59 p.m. CST one remembers...

    by Al Delvechio

    the fake batmobile they left outside the studio to fuck with the "spies" while filming Batman Begins?

  • June 19, 2007, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Al makes a good point.

    by Turd Furgusen

    It could be a fake to throw us geeks off.<p> How's Arnold's holding up? Tell Potsie he still owes me $5 for taking Mary Ellen to that "special" Doctor.

  • June 19, 2007, 6:07 p.m. CST

    I'm sure the Today Show is in on that one.

    by superninja


  • June 19, 2007, 6:08 p.m. CST


    by Pound Sand

    Or is it 'Beano," ..., no wait, that's the stuff to swallow after you hit Del Taco after hours, but well before you hit Meredith Viera.

  • June 19, 2007, 6:22 p.m. CST

    the overall design looks more Quasi-Scifi

    by pipergates

    Which is not a bad thing. Inventions nowadays are already taking us into a quasi-scifi age and who should be more cutting-edge and advanced than Bats? I didnt like the Tron-suit at first but looking at it hi-rez together with the mean design of the pod...And the grizzly new Joker...I realize this is going to be one amaaazing film.

  • June 19, 2007, 6:35 p.m. CST

    re: BrooseTheScharuk and ckone

    by Andillformthehead

    right on. This marks an evolution and escalation. The suit looks good for Nolan's batman. This is his and his crew's interpretation. This is the only cinematic interpretation that I would even compare to the great comic interpretations. Only BTAMS (and JL/U) is better in my opinion. This is Batman. Hey I thought Burton's movie was cool but that wasn't "really" batman. Or at the very least it has fallen down the list because of Nolan's vision. <br> <br> Also I expect the escalation to also encompass the action and to a certain degree the violence we can expect from this film. Shit if he has daggers shooting out of his gauntlets then I will be "shooting" all over the screen mydamnself. This batman is going to FUCK PEOPLE UP.

  • June 19, 2007, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Is Batman on trial and dancing on the hood

    by superninja

    before he's off to court?

  • June 19, 2007, 6:40 p.m. CST


    by Andillformthehead

    The suits too tron-y. Waaahh the ears are too long. Waahh, Denny O' Neil didn't right the screenplay. wahhh Jim Aparo doesn't get a cameo. <br> <br> Seriously?

  • June 19, 2007, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Good point about this Batman going destructo on

    by superninja

    police property. First running his Tumbler over the cop cars (not to mention all the resulting property damage) and now he's jumping down on the hood causing a dent.

  • June 19, 2007, 6:42 p.m. CST

    re: Superninja

    by Andillformthehead

    Then Solomon Grundy comes out with all the other people from Gotham Cemetery dancing and singing, "Cause this is thilla"!

  • June 19, 2007, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Followed by

    by superninja

    "Clock with You" by the Clock King?

  • June 19, 2007, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Then PYT

    by Andillformthehead

    "Pretty Young Thing" sung lovingly to Ben Grimm in this DC/Marvel Crossover Giant-Size!

  • June 19, 2007, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Once upon a time, Batman did have a gun...

    by khaos751

    Everyone remembers Year One, but few remember the green tripe that was Year Two. FEAR THE REAPER...or something.

  • June 19, 2007, 7 p.m. CST

    Batman had a gun in the very first issue of his

    by superninja

    comic book, very pulp. They later revised the character and gave him less lethal weapons.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Is it Just Me...

    by evolution1085

    or does it look like the caped crusader is wearing platform shoes... gayness

  • June 19, 2007, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Batman Action Figure variants...

    by TheGreenStyle

    Are a long Standing toy tradition, and too a certain, limited extent, just plain makes sense. Don't be hatin'!

  • June 19, 2007, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Batman stopped carrying a gun in 1940

    by Andillformthehead

    Forget about guns in Batman '89 he strafes and launches missiles from the Batwing and in Returns he roasts a guy with the jet exhaust of the batmobile. Nolan batman has killed no one yet (he didn't save Ras though).

  • June 19, 2007, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Batman briefly had a gun 68 years ago.

    by TheGreenStyle

    Doesn't mean he ever should again. (Guns on his vehicles, though, that's a gray area. Burton did it. And so did Nolan. I don't really like it though.)

  • June 19, 2007, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Continues to be the only comic movie worth seeing

    by ScamsAndFlams

    Oh my God, a bat-suit that could potentially be turned into a toy? UNPRECEDENTED!!!!!!!! this site gives positive reviews to Fantastic Four and complains about the best looking batsuit yet? fuck off.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:11 p.m. CST


    by monkeytrousers

    He's wearing slip-on shoes?! Seriously??! 'Bat Slip-ons'??!? So I guess in the next movie we'll see Bat Brogues and maybe even Bat Flip Flops... I can't be bothered dissecting every goddamn minute detail of a press-release so waaay before the film is actually going to be released. Okay the bizarre 'reveal' of the joker was a little mis-handled and that pic of Ledger got me a little concerned but I trust Nolan and the suits seemed to have learned from the mistakes (see: nipples) of the past. I can't f***ing wait for this.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:11 p.m. CST

    REALLY fucking cool.

    by dekionplexis

    That is all.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:12 p.m. CST

    He clearly just landed on the cop car

    by ScamsAndFlams

    For all you nerds know, the cops could be dead and Batman is there to wipe up the bums who killed 'em. God, you are beyond asinine. The only valid complaint is if those pointy things on the bat pod (ok, there's another) are guns.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:15 p.m. CST

    It looks like they have an array on there.

    by superninja

    Maybe the top are grappling hooks, grenades on the sides, lights, smoke bombs, etc.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Not to take a huge stance on this...

    by khaos751

    ...because I wasn't a fan of the story, but Batman Year Two came out in '90 (I think. I'm not digging it out). He carried a gun, but I'm pretty sure he never used it.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:19 p.m. CST

    I'm just saying that Batman seemed to have a

    by superninja

    misunderstanding with the cops in the funny books, but he wouldn't ram their cars with the Batmobile, or lead them on a high speed chase endangering other people. In fact they generally could not even get close to him unless he wanted them to (in Gordon's case).

  • June 19, 2007, 7:21 p.m. CST

    I am not saying batman should carry guns...

    by Andillformthehead

    Quite the opposite. However he may need some soft of projectile to blast holes in shit (like on the tumbler). Only for defensive purposes. Not like burton who purposely killed and/or maimed people. Also the suit looks kickass

  • June 19, 2007, 7:22 p.m. CST


    by pipergates

    the next fashion statement

  • June 19, 2007, 7:22 p.m. CST


    by theblueroom

    alright...i've had enough!!!!! please...everyone... take off the fag geek goggles for one minute to see what these batman films are really all about! the only thing different about these films and the previous monstrosities, is the bat nipples. there has yet to be a descent batman feature film. realistic??? a batmobile climbing buildings and jumping rooftops?? come on people!! this was the most ridiculous concept of all the batman films combined! im only assuming the 'bat pod' will also realistically climb walls and leap buildings in a single bound! and whats with batman sounding like spawn with a hangover???!!! this is not dark. this is not moody. this is ABSURD! batman trained by ninjas??? the list goes on... and once again ladies and gentlemen...we have a batman with a new and improved one talkbacker so eloquently put it...'right out of bibleman.' pathetic. now superman is a spineless wimp who gets his ass pathetically and deservingly whooped. spiderman a weeping sobbing pussy...yes folks. last film anyone?? broke down into a weeping mess not once...not twice...not thrice...BUT FOUR FUCKING TIMES!!!! and now batman is a growling beast in black bibleman armor...who jumps buildings in his batmobile and has ninja training!! can anymore damage be done to further rape my years of joyful childhood comic book reading?? take off the beer goggles people. the state of comic book adapted films is at an all time low.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:26 p.m. CST

    all time lows...

    by Andillformthehead

    I 'd vote for Corman's Fantastic Four closely followed by the recent Fantastic Fours..and oh yeah motorcycle helmet Captain America.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:29 p.m. CST

    C'mon Batman has martial arts training in the comic

    by superninja

    books for days. The gruff voice is also a characteristic when he's dealing with criminals. The Tumbler only jumped the rooftops because he had no other means of escape. They made it obvious the Tumbler was chosen because it could jump the waterfall into the cave. Those were the least offensive things about BB. Gotta agree with you about Supes and Spidey, though.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:31 p.m. CST


    by wonderllama

    I don't know what concerns me more, those ludicrous tyres or you're use of an apostrophe in the word IDIOTS...

  • June 19, 2007, 7:31 p.m. CST

    Captain America is uniquely atrocious.

    by superninja


  • June 19, 2007, 7:32 p.m. CST


    by theblueroom

    'martha stewart's sucking the chrome off the's all going down!!!'

  • June 19, 2007, 7:33 p.m. CST

    So, Batman kills now?

    by DarthBakpao

    Look at those guns!

  • June 19, 2007, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Blueroom is obviously Adam West

    by NHRonin

    They should have cast you in Batman back in 1989, Adam, and had "KAPOW" and "ZAP" when you fought the Joker. Box office bonzo, baby!

  • June 19, 2007, 7:33 p.m. CST

    superninja - I think he was more

    by pjdon

    concerned about rachel at that point in the film, alfred even grills him on the destruction he caused and he says 'Rachel was dying.'<p>theblueroom - what? How did you want Batman to train? What is wrong with Ninjas? Surely Batman has always been a ninja? He uses martial arts, hides in shadows, uses graple hooks, smoke bombs to confuse bad guys etc.<p>All these things Ninjas do in reality so surely Batman would have Ninja training if he wanted to acheive the same effect.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Batman, Guns and Respect of Human Life

    by pipergates

    A gray area. Or a gray and dark blue area. He doesn't kill outright but he does what it takes to exploding the monastery with all the ninjas in there... He saved the detained supposed murderer but might have blown up a bunch of martial-artists. I guess it doesn't make sense to imply that he would go out of his way not to seriously harm anybody. Cause that would not be very realistic, if he was holding back and putting himself in danger. Which brings us to the bat-blasphemic argument of what legality/justice is he protecting anyway by being a dangerous vigilante? Who cares, you cant make an omelet....

  • June 19, 2007, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Spidey 3

    by khaos751

    A lot of flaws in that movie, but the one thing that stuck with me the most was...Topher Grace should have been Spiderman and Tobey Maguire should have played the beanpole girl in the apartment next door.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:37 p.m. CST


    by NHRonin

    You lost all credibility when you made the claim that the current crop of superheroes films are the worst ever. Apparently you're not old enough to rememberthe atrocious Captain America films, Shazam, Spiderman television show, Dolph Lungren Punisher, Howard the Duck, etc. No way is this even close to the worst bunch.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:39 p.m. CST

    pjdon, that is a fair point. I think quite a number of

    by superninja

    things are potentially excusable since he is just starting off in BB. However, if it continues in that vein it will be less so.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:39 p.m. CST

    It's blindingly obvious what the Batpod is

    by Bob of the Shire

    It's an escape pod from the Tumbler. They already said that the Joker forces Batman to modify the Tumbler in the movie, it's pretty obvious he added this feature. Oh, and in Begins when he fires the missiles, the car moves him down into position to fire, that position just so happens to be exactly the same as the position Batman is in when he's on the Batpod. That's probably not a coincidence. Neither are the facts that it has the same tires and look of the Tumbler and it's called the fucking BatPOD.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:39 p.m. CST


    by theblueroom have to attack the apostrophe in idiots because its there is nothing else in my rightful tyraid that you can honestly defend.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:40 p.m. CST

    And I love the new costume

    by pjdon

    it just looks very solid and effective.<p>And the new cowl means he will be able to move for the first time in a batman movie.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Bob of the Shire

    by Sparhawk38

    Is right.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Looks Good!

    by Gatack

    This thing s going to have an insane amount of toys...

  • June 19, 2007, 7:46 p.m. CST

    theblueroom - there is plenty to defend

    by pjdon

    BB is not only one of the greatest superhero films of all time (alongside the original Superman movie and Spiderman 2) but it is widely considered by movie critics (not comic book fans, just movie critics) to be one of the best films of the last 10 years.<p>What is the better Batman film you seem to remember. The Burton films scraped through as being good by simply not really including Batman in the plot so they wouldn't have to deal with his character.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:46 p.m. CST


    by Andillformthehead

    I think BB was Bruce's Year One so at times he probably was not as confident in his abilities as he will be in "Year Two". Also some guy was like where's the "detective". Well once again the first one was origin, setup, etc. Now here is the shit. <br> Letting Ra's die was more of a personal act for Bruce, a closing or a door so too speak. And honestly the fucker know his secret identity so fuck him. I think Batman should not judge and find all life worth saving but honestly, like anyone else, it's either you or me and it definitely ain't gonna be me. This movie the action is going to be ball to the fucking wall.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:48 p.m. CST

    Superninja - I think

    by pjdon

    within movie logic you have to kind of ignore the innocent bystanders in car chases etc, i think you are supposed to kind of assume no-one really gets hurt or killed.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:49 p.m. CST

    and where are you hiding supermarch?

    by pipergates

    what is he calling himself these days?

  • June 19, 2007, 7:52 p.m. CST

    earlier films...

    by theblueroom

    at least those earlier films didn't have the cash/special effects/or budget to back them up. a hundred million++ budget...there is no excuse? and who and the hell read and cared one shit about howard the duck?? a superhero?

  • June 19, 2007, 7:53 p.m. CST

    i wouldnt mind seeing him breaking some legs and arms

    by pipergates

    and plain maiming those evildoers

  • June 19, 2007, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Batman should always

    by pjdon

    worry about letting people die. He is not doing this for kicks, he is doing it because he is tired of corruption and crime in the world. We live in a world where some people are above the law due to corruption, Batman has found a logical way of dealing with this by becoming a symbol that would be feared.<p>If he starts killing bad guys then he would be as bad as they are.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Batman Killing

    by Andillformthehead

    Let's put it this way. <br> Batman always finds a way to save the joker (or the Joker saves himself) because even though he is a homicidal fucker he still has a sense of self-preservation. Ra's (in this incarnation) was a zealot who was extreme and was willing to go to the extreme. Killing millions, his own men, himself to reach a common goal (war or terror?). <br> Nolan's batman is not a killer. Burton's most definitely was.

  • June 19, 2007, 7:58 p.m. CST

    As someone that didn't like BB

    by Immortal_Fish

    Sorry, but there are some 30-something fanboys that are displeased with BB, despite the casting and direction (read: story).<P>Anyhow, as someone that didn't like BB, this Pod crap smacks of the Schu with all the subtlety of a 2x4.<P>And, hey -- does Gordon get to drive it before he cheets on his wife?!

  • June 19, 2007, 8:01 p.m. CST


    by theblueroom

    there has yet to be a good batman film. and as for the critics??? i hold all of them in contempt. come on people?? we are the ones who grew up reading and loving these comics and should also be the ones to hold these films up to some form of high standard...actually, any standard at this point would make me happy...but obviously im in the wrong talkback forum... any true comic/film fans out here?? please tell me where to go??

  • June 19, 2007, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Like blowing up a whole factory?

    by The Dum Guy

    I still enjoy watching Burton's Batman(s), but he really didn't get the character right.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:03 p.m. CST

    the batsuit went

    by christpunchers2007

    for a diet!

  • June 19, 2007, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Looks better in high resolution

    by lost.rules

    is it 2008 already?

  • June 19, 2007, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Looks better in high resolution

    by lost.rules

    is it 2008 already?

  • June 19, 2007, 8:05 p.m. CST


    by zelusfin

    It was mentioned that he "needs" the damn pod thing alien transport woman grinding bike. it doesnt have guns either because that just doesnt make sense ever for batman to have. anybody ever think that they are huge grappling hooks to launch him across buildings or scale walls. it could also be something to take down walls ala farrels spear thing in swat. they could launch a number of things not in the obvious like bullets. just you wait.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:07 p.m. CST


    by Andillformthehead

    If Batman didn't destroy the EL then all of Gotham is torn asunder. Ra's started with the narrows because that's where arkham is. Also they only attacked the poor part of town and that's ok? WTF? <br> Unless your joking then I am like oh ok that fucking funny.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:09 p.m. CST

    but then again...

    by zelusfin

    the more i look at it... NO NO NO!! it doesnt make sense! not guns, no bullets just grappling hooks or yes, flame throwers or...BUT WHY ARE THERE THREE OF 'EM!!!! aarrgggh!!! ONE OF 'EMS GOTTA BE A GUN!!

  • June 19, 2007, 8:09 p.m. CST

    Batman Toys

    by Andillformthehead

    Are they mostly from Wayne Industries and their weapons division? So even if there are guns he wouldn't use them. Nolan's batman is cool not a murdering dick like burtons.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Comic fans upset?

    by khaos751

    At what exactly? The tumbler on rooftops? Trained by ninjas? This is the same hero that fought the KG Beast and Man-Bat. You want to see them on the big screen? You might as well watch Van Helsing.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:10 p.m. CST

    re: Yackbacker

    by Andillformthehead


  • June 19, 2007, 8:11 p.m. CST

    i don't like his shoes?

    by lost.rules

    What! Are you guys all fashion designers? Yeesh. FAGS!

  • June 19, 2007, 8:11 p.m. CST

    theblueroom - most of us are true

    by pjdon

    comic book fans, most of us love BB. Why do you hold critics in contempt? Because they love films but actually got of their arse to make a career out of it wheras you just bitch about films to yourself.<p>I have always loved Batman and BB while having its faults ws exeactly what me and most Batman fans have always wanted from a Batman movie.<p>I have nothing but respect for WB for taking such a risk, istead of using a viable franchise to make a kids movie and sell toys they gave it to a beloved director to actually make a film which requires you to think.<p>Although I suppose you're just upset because Schumacher didn't get the job again.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:19 p.m. CST

    No worries, but...

    by Pabodie

    A big part of the fun in BB was the "origin story" of the tumbler and various bat components. I hope they don't go gratuitous with the gadgetry this time. I think it's a lot more fun to keep the "utility" in "utility belt." Rock on.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:20 p.m. CST

    This just in: Adam West fans are pissed.


    New Batsuit shows too little of his "batarang".

  • June 19, 2007, 8:24 p.m. CST

    critics criticizes just to be critically cool

    by pipergates

    apart from the good ones, like moriarty and harry here. and a lot of tb'ers act the same way too...

  • June 19, 2007, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Go ahead and bitch about Burton and Keaton

    by Immortal_Fish

    When those garage doors were cut horizontally via machine gun fire in '89, I myself, was on fire.<P>Despite that, yeah, bats doesn't kill. He doesn't use guns to smite crime, but when it all comes down to it -- if his maw cooks the breakfast without the hog, then today was a good day.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:28 p.m. CST

    yeah the bataran's too small

    by pipergates

    heath joker ledger has seen plenty worse and will not be impressed

  • June 19, 2007, 8:29 p.m. CST


    by Dokkalvar

    I agree with someone who responded earlier that this thing could use a fender in the back, but it could also use one in the front as well. A tire that big is going to pick up any moisture on the street and throw it right in your face. That's my only nit-pick, aside from that ..Meh.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:29 p.m. CST

    jeesh blueroom guy

    by Admiral Kirk

    You didn't know that batman had ninja training in all those years of your childhood-loser! As for a good batman film being made yet and any true comic fans out there- well batman begins was basically miller's year 1 with son of the demon mixed in. I thought it was pretty good for a story about a maniac who likes to dress up as a rodent. The suit's big head and the fact that his eyes never glow white where the only things I bitched about and those have always been the case until now. In this new movie his eyes will glow white when using xray nightvision. It's in the script. It's leftover from the failed batman vs superman movie- the script for that one had superman using his xray vision and batman, not to be outdone, turns a knob on his belt and his eyes glow white and we see that he has xray vision too- I forget but he says something to superman like- I like pink too while checking out lois.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:30 p.m. CST

    The Wheels Are Officially Off

    by The Brewhammer

    1.) The Leadger 'Dead Presidents with Lipstick' Joker. 2.) The new Robocop & Tron had a baby Batman costume 3.) Guns on a Batbike. Err - Bat'pod' or what-the-Hell-ever new hipster phrase they're using now. I think most of this is due to Goyer's absence on the sequel. Without Goyer, it didn't take Nolan long at all to devolve back into Burton and Schumacher country. At least Schumacher owed up to his mistakes and apologized - we'll see if Nolan will do the same after he sinks the new Batman franchise.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Admiral Kirk, is that true?

    by pjdon

    I love that Lois line, brilliant. I do think they need to go with white eyes, i'd love to see a scene though where bruce takes of his cowl and he still has the black eye-liner on underneath

  • June 19, 2007, 8:35 p.m. CST

    meredith viera

    by imageburn13

    had no business sitting on that thing. It looked like it was going to eat her.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Admiral Kirk

    by khaos751 to share a link or copy of the script in your possession?

  • June 19, 2007, 8:39 p.m. CST

    I can't believe some of you idiots

    by pjdon

    are dissmissing a whole film on the basis of a picture of a bike.<p>Yes I'm sure it will be just like Batman and Robin just because you think the bike looks silly (just like the tumbler did, eh!)

  • June 19, 2007, 8:40 p.m. CST

    All Chris Nolan did was make a good Film..

    by Andillformthehead

    He came out the gate good. And he's getting trashed. Sounds like Burton and Schumacher damaged a lot of souls out there. If you don't like BB then that's your opinion but all of you with your we are headed towards "Schumacher territory" sound like battered wives or abused children.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:49 p.m. CST

    HEY BATMAN! Judge Dredd wants his bike back!

    by Zombie Vig

    Either way, the bike and the suit looks good.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:49 p.m. CST

    I will judge this movie when I see it.

    by lost.rules

    And so far, Nolan has not let me down. The only film I didn't love of his, and only liked was Insomnia. But I attribute that to the fact that I watched the original first, and loved it. In general, I don't like remakes of movies that are already great to begin with. I serioulsy hope The Dark Knight kicks ass!

  • June 19, 2007, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Green Hulk People.

    by Dokkalvar

    You know, everyone of you lousy fan-boy assholes bitching and moaning the new suit are the same stupid shits who complained to heaven and hell about what the Hulk would look like. In the end, you got exactly what you wanted. A Hulk that's as green as the jolly green Giant in ridiculous stretchy purple pants and it looked absolutely atrocious. Just shut the hell up. The Grey Costume would look like a nightmare. It would, just ask Adam West. Don't give me that night-fall crap either because he looked like a gay wrestler and everyone who bemoans a black-armoured suit is in some weird state of denial about it. Please, you're not helping. Your ideas stink. I appreciate your love for the comic-book but that's illustration and ripped muscle men don't look right in spandex or cloth..Your idea of what Bat's should look like will ultimately look like clown shoes.

  • June 19, 2007, 8:55 p.m. CST

    pjdon, right back at you

    by Andillformthehead

    Imagine if any of the other directors contacted was brought on instead of a storyteller a la Nolan? And let's not discount Warner's letting the franchise "rest" for 10 years.

  • June 19, 2007, 9 p.m. CST

    Imagine if...

    by pjdon

    WB had hired Paul WS Anderson to do Batman, it would have been more commercially viable...<p>Sony had hired Tim Story for Spiderman and Freddie Prinze Jr for peter, it would have made financial sense at the time...<p>These studios don't have to hire good people or put effort into these films, they can do it shit and still make tons of cash (Fantastic Four).<p>Hollywood is a business and so everytime they take a risk when they don't have to I appreciate it.

  • June 19, 2007, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Keep the utility in the utility belt!

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    The batpod got me worried about Nolan and co. going overboard with the gadgets. Keep it practical and real (ish). I want to see some more shots like Bale in the machine shop, sculpting bat-stars! And I really hope we see detective work. By the way, I'm not taking any risks. I'm locking myself in a survival shelter stocked with food I will not be leaving until 2008 so I can give myself the highest possible chance of living until this movie opens.

  • June 19, 2007, 9:04 p.m. CST


    by Andillformthehead

    Schumacher: "Uh I can do dark". Warners: "We are greedy fucks but eh, no. We are greedy but not greedy and stupid like those stupid Fox fucks".

  • June 19, 2007, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Dr Gonzo - "Mr Garrison's transport" Hilarious!

    by Laserbrain


  • June 19, 2007, 9:07 p.m. CST


    by wonderllama

    Seriously, you are never going to make a comic book into a satisfactory drawing simply due to the fact that it is a completely different medium in which you are presenting the story. Enough of the "sooky la la" comments already. Look at Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy for example, it was a book, a radio series, a TV series and a movie. All were quite different yet worked in different ways with respect to the format used. Batman movies are NOT going to be the comics. The sooner some people come to terms with that, the happier they will be. It's a different market, you can't cater for just the comic readers who might have a tanty if the movie portrays a different version (again) of your beloved Batman. These films are trying to cater to a wider audience. There is no skill in just regurgitating what people have already seen in a comic word for word, image for image...movies are about reinventing a style, retelling a story, reinvisaging a n already successful character. If you wanted the same thing, you'd reread your comic books. Did people complain when Indiana Jones got Hitler's autograph? "Oh, that never happened, they're making that up!". Of course not, it is poetic licence, it is clever, it is not about sticking 100% to preconceived ideas or portrayals...

  • June 19, 2007, 9:09 p.m. CST


    by wonderllama

    satisfactory movie I mean.... Dammit, lost all credibility now...

  • June 19, 2007, 9:11 p.m. CST


    by Andillformthehead

    I guess you would have rather had a psychotic Gotham tear itself apart with probably hundreds of thousands dead. <br> Shit, I think you are joking!!!!

  • June 19, 2007, 9:15 p.m. CST

    lost.rules, you watched the original Insomnia?

    by pipergates

    what,you speak Norwegian?

  • June 19, 2007, 9:16 p.m. CST

    kongens norsk?

    by pipergates

    eller bare koedd?

  • June 19, 2007, 9:19 p.m. CST


    by aboriginal

    What's with the guns? Better be rubber pacifiers and incapacitating foam launchers. The Bat does not kill.

  • June 19, 2007, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Aronofsky's Take

    by Andillformthehead

    Would only work if Uma comes back as poison ivy and batgirl is Jennifer Connelly with the batarang ass to ass scene. yes....

  • June 19, 2007, 9:25 p.m. CST

    I saw the original Insomnia...

    by The Dum Guy

    And used subtitles.

  • June 19, 2007, 9:29 p.m. CST

    But how will that bike lean into a turn going 150 mph?

    by kikuchiyoboy

    It looks cool to me, but I'm intrigued to see how it turns. The tires seem a little to fat for banking. It looks cool, but it needs flames.

  • June 19, 2007, 9:29 p.m. CST

    was it better than Nolan's Insomnia?

    by pipergates

    i didnt see the original

  • June 19, 2007, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Where's the engine and the ammo?

    by Sappers Forward

    Oh what the fuck. Yet another cheesy, totally unrealistic, and stupid looking bat vehicle? That motorcycle thing doesn't even have an engine. What's with all the guns up front? Where the hell do you think all the ammo is being stored? Oh, let me guess, all the ammo is where the engine should be and Batman has to pedal. Now I'm pissed. Wasn't anyone in the armed forces? Couldn't they have hired someone that knew anything about shit like that? It is after all a multi-million dollar budget. Fuck, hire me damnit!

  • June 19, 2007, 9:34 p.m. CST

    wonderllama - I know

    by pjdon

    people seem to forget that books, comic books and movies are all very different.<p>If i gave you a song and said I want you to make a painting to illustrate what this song means it would be very different.<p>True Comics and movies are quite similar but like you say if the just copy the comic there is little point.<p>People complain if a movie contemparises something that was made 50 years ago in a comic. Well it was only like that because the comic was written 50 years ago. A film should reflect the time in which it is made.<p>Look what happened with Superman returns, people will look at it in 20 years and say that while it was made in the 00's it copied the style of the 70's film so it doesn't say anything or represent the time in which it was made.<p>Rant!

  • June 19, 2007, 9:34 p.m. CST

    agree phoenixmagi, nolan needs a bit of that

    by pipergates

    he could be a bit less realistic in that regard, and he would be close to prefect

  • June 19, 2007, 9:41 p.m. CST

    more detective and brainpower, more noir, nolan

    by pipergates

    play with the shadows&light, and show us why batman always wins in the end- cause he's smart.

  • June 19, 2007, 9:42 p.m. CST

    pjdon re: returns

    by Andillformthehead

    I think Singer was more interested with the genesis camera cause this guy used to be all about character but return's was soulless but bright and colorful like a Saturday morning cartoon in the 80's. Maybe that's what he thinks of Supes? Or maybe just a flawed film form a good filmmaker?

  • June 19, 2007, 9:43 p.m. CST

    t.piper.gates i'm sure that

    by pjdon

    is what we will get this time, even Nolan has said he wants to make him more detective like.<p>Don't forget with BB Nolan was forced to use Goyers script and had to kind of stick to what WB wanted to a degree. This time he will be making the film he wants.

  • June 19, 2007, 9:45 p.m. CST

    t.piper.gates., Insomnia original....

    by The Dum Guy

    Is different than the Nolan one, honestly I would like to say I like them about equal, but the original's ending is a bit different than Nolan's and in a way I liked that film better for it. I won't spoil it, but it does make the film different overall, I'm not trying to be pretentious, but it's a more existential ending. Worth checking out if you liked Nolan's.

  • June 19, 2007, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Andillformthehead I don't doubt Singer

    by pjdon

    we all liked what we saw in production just never translated well on screen.<p>Kind of like he couldn't see the wood for the trees.<p>He probably didn't realise how the film would play until it came together.<p>I think the bigest problem was Lois and Clark, they had no chemistry, hell they didn't even really have a scene together. They should be like best buddies, that's the energy which keeps Superman alive and adds the humour and heart.

  • June 19, 2007, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Ben Roethlisberger wants one

    by bat fastard


  • June 19, 2007, 9:51 p.m. CST

    looking forward to see DK going all Holmes

    by pipergates

    finding the clues....i want to see that original Insomnia,it sounds good. the vikings make good movies.

  • June 19, 2007, 9:51 p.m. CST


    by wonderllama


  • June 19, 2007, 10 p.m. CST

    Guns are cool!

    by radjac33

    Cuz Tim Burton said so! Batman had guns in his movie but nobody said sh!t...did they?

  • June 19, 2007, 10:01 p.m. CST

    DK would look really good in Sin City style

    by pipergates

    keeping the story realistic in BB style but playing with the images, distorting the shadows, using a gray color combination with just an occasional brighter color. noir man.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:02 p.m. CST

    It's started

    by JackBristow

    Pointless gadgets being included just to sell toys. How long until Christian Bale is brandishing the Bat-Visa card?

  • June 19, 2007, 10:02 p.m. CST

    pjdon and yackbacker

    by Andillformthehead

    World's Finest eh? <br> Supes Returns main problem was that you could not get emotionally involved with any of the characters. I personally didn't care that much about Clark, lois, super-ish kid, etc. Oddly that's the point: it wasn't the suit (how big is the "S", that not red it's maroon) it was the story and the actors and the direction. Photography was hot. Everything else "eh". And it wasn't a horrible film maybe we just need a "begins" instead of a "returns".

  • June 19, 2007, 10:04 p.m. CST

    t.piper.gates - Dark Knight Returns

    by pjdon

    they should make that film in Sin City style with a bunch of old school actors.<p>Kurt Rusell as Bats<p>Richard E Grant as the Joker<p>Paul Newman as Comisioner Gordon.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:06 p.m. CST

    It's official

    by Colonel Activity

    I'm sold. Looks awesome.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Superman Returns at least can...

    by The Dum Guy

    Make whatever sequel it gets, seem like a better film. I wasn't really all that impressed with X-Men, but thought X-2 was a vastly supperior film. Then again, I thought SR was worth five bucks to watch (at least it wasn't as bad as most of the shit Marvel is churning out).

  • June 19, 2007, 10:07 p.m. CST

    its hard to make an interesting Supes movie

    by pipergates

    hes such a brightly colored and caped boyscout. and invulnerable too. i bet Brad Bird would find a way with him.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:09 p.m. CST

    re: The Dum Guy

    by Andillformthehead

    In my opinion all you have to do is watch Superman '78 then watch Returns. Then watch Batman '89 then watch Begins. Which recent film wins?

  • June 19, 2007, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Andillformthehead - Singer

    by pjdon

    went on and on about how he didn't want to do an origin movie but then went and used a origin story structure with the first hour introducing the character back to the world.<p>I wanted (after waiting for over 10 years) for a NEW Superman, one which would represent the times in which WE live.<p>Not a conveluted re-make of the 70's version with the heart ripped out.<p>Still I respect to a degree SR and Spidey 3 because the directors tried (even if they failed) and that is much better than studio suit made shit like FF or X3.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:12 p.m. CST

    What I believe...

    by Bronx Cheer

    I believe his boots have soles that are too thick. This is not supposed to be Platform Batman. I mean, that's not Tom Cruise in the suit; lifts not required. I believe this Batman puts the crunch in so much of the police hardware because he disrespects the corruption that taints the entire force. I believe that it is inappropriate to make value judgments about a film one has not seen, or even has not even been completed yet. I believe that is dishonest. I believe Batman does have a gold Bat emblem on his chest, and I do not understand why he rides a motorcycle with such large tires. I believe the name "Bat Pod" can only be meant for toy sellers, and even then, that Steve Jobs will be offering it in 30 and 60 gig versions. (The REAL Bat Pod will be a regular iPod with little bat ears attached to the case. Perhaps the tires are so big because the pod comes out of the Batmobile, but seriously, if it does, that's lame. I am very much looking forward to the film, as I believe Nolan is a very good director and knows how to give an audience a good show. This is what I believe.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Begins, but only because it...

    by The Dum Guy

    Wasn't just worth the price of the ticket, it was worth the price of the DVD.<br><br>Believe me when I say I liked Superman Returns, but I in no way loved it. Now, with Begins, I can say that film was something that anyone can enjoy. My opinion in a way is biased, since I've been reading Superman comics since I was a kid (although I haven't read one in years, maybe ten), and I like the character. I can only say, watch Superman 4, then watch Superman Returns, and ask which is more of a reason to continue the story line.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:14 p.m. CST

    I think the only way to make an

    by pjdon

    interesting supes film is to limit his powers slightly. There is no tension unless he sweats a bit.<p>And kryptonite is a lazy plot device in my opinion.<p>That is why i was so pleased they went with organic web shooters in Spidey because otherwise it would have been used as a lazy way to increase tension "Oh no, i've run out of web, just at the worst possible time to run out of web, again, just like yesterday, mmm."

  • June 19, 2007, 10:15 p.m. CST


    by Andillformthehead

    Exactly....Could'nt have said it better. Reverence is one thing but Jesus ease off the clutch!

  • June 19, 2007, 10:18 p.m. CST

    pjdon, re-DKR: Dolph Lundgren as bats

    by pipergates

    could be the one perfect role for him. Oh yeah it would blow minds done Sin City style.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:18 p.m. CST

    White Bat Symbol?

    by david19

    Is it just me or does his symbol look whit or gray? It may just be the light...

  • June 19, 2007, 10:19 p.m. CST

    I agree with t.piper.gates

    by Bronx Cheer

    I still want Nolan's films, but I would love to see a highly-stylized, German expressionistic noir version of Batman. Burton got halfway there, but he's too enamored of freaks to concentrate on the heart of the character. Make it virtual, make it black, and make it hurt. Batman is a tough SOB. Make me feel his power. And linger in the shadows.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Bronx Cheer - I believe....

    by pjdon you.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:21 p.m. CST

    The Giant Penny = Awesome Name

    by Ribbons

    Props, yo.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:22 p.m. CST

    How is that not cool?

    by jrbarker

    I like the new Batbike.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:22 p.m. CST

    re: Begins, but only because it...

    by Andillformthehead

    Only more reason to do a reboot. Supes IV was direct to video quality. And do a post-Crisis type Superman. I think Singer wanted a fifties-type Supes that was pretty much indestructible. Miller with DKR eluded to that with the whole Superman getting regenerate from the Earth thing. Singer's Superman was all over the place and not "grounded" as a Golden-age-ese Superman would be. Nolan's Batman is noble in a 21st Century way.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Damn, now I feel like Tinkerbell.

    by Bronx Cheer

    I had it coming.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:25 p.m. CST

    metropolis batman?

    by pipergates


  • June 19, 2007, 10:25 p.m. CST

    t.piper.gates - I think if

    by pjdon

    they did it green screen they could use effects to change the actors proportions, like in LOTR.<p>Bruce and Gordon should be giant towering men, like 7 ft tall and nearly as wide.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:26 p.m. CST

    I agree with you pjdon, about Supes

    by Bronx Cheer

    Cripple him, bring him down, and then have him regain his identity and powers, but not through cheap gimmicks. Face it--Supes is not a great character for drama. It's cool to watch him fly, but just as it's cool to watch Spidey webslinging, the fellow's got to land sometime, and that's where the story really is. Supes is a crashing bore.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Fix the second image

    by Onset

    Fix it.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:30 p.m. CST

    BB is the only film to get Batman right.

    by superninja

    They made him sympathetic yet strong without turning him into a total dick. Bale's Batman is great. He's young and cocky but is still wrestling with something, reaching for greatness in a way that hasn't been portrayed in a superhero film since Reeve's Superman. For that alone it gets a pass from me. Still, I could do with some more atmosphere and backing off of the fake realism.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:30 p.m. CST

    New Suit

    by david19

    I was unsure about the suit at first but now that i see it high res it looks amazing. It looks mouch more mobile and instead of Tron-y as people have suggested it looks like plated armor over kevlar, much more practical. And I have a feeling this Bat-pod is going to be in th movie less then we think it is.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:31 p.m. CST


    by david19

    and the symbol is either whit or gray, not yellow. Or maybe niether. Could be the light.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Supes is a great character for drama, just not a

    by superninja

    big showy drama but a subtle, quiet one. Have you ever read Superman for All Seasons?

  • June 19, 2007, 10:32 p.m. CST

    hey what happened to all the usual rantings?

    by pipergates

    something is missing here

  • June 19, 2007, 10:36 p.m. CST

    Just don't light the suit up like Christmas this

    by superninja

    time, that is all I ask. The scene in BB where he's squatting talking to Dawes in the subway and Gordon squatting on the fire escape - BRING OUT THE GIMP. Do not make Bale do that again, please.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:37 p.m. CST


    by david19

    The problem with Superman is that so few people understand how to make him an interesting character. The Bruce Timm clan nailed Supes, but few other people know how. I personally cannot stand the Singer/Donner version, I dont like the messianic parallels, and he is too powerful (ie picking up a kryptonite laced island, wtf!?). Make supes a bit more human, drop the bumbling Clark Kent act, make it more sci-fi and not so realistic, and give him enough power to be cool but de-power him to the point where you feel the hits at least. Then bring Darkseid, Metallo, Parasite or someone else who can take him on and you may have something. <P>Oh then stab his kid with a krypto-knife and pretend he never existed. Sigh.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Supes is all Grapes of Wrath, but Singer made him all

    by superninja

    Days of Our Lives.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:38 p.m. CST

    I just want it so if Superman

    by pjdon

    gets shot in the face he flinches, I want him to have to accelerate to fly fast not just zip of. I want him to have to put in a bit of effort into what he does, not much but a bit.<p>In SR his hair never even got out of place, I want Superman to bleed.<p>In DKR even Batman made him bleed.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:40 p.m. CST

    superninja, I agree about BB and Bale, and no...

    by Bronx Cheer

    I'm only recently catching up on years of material out there. I read Watchmen a couple months back, just finished Dark Knight Returns, and while I've had Preacher and work by Grant Morrison recommended, I might look up the Supes title you reference. I'll get back to you. My problem with Superman is the lack of potential. He's a tough one to break down, and he doesn't have far to go upward, on Earth anyway. But I'll read the title you mention, and keep my mind open. Thanks for the tip.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:41 p.m. CST

    imagine going fullblast on that pod akira-style

    by pipergates

    that would bring sexy right back

  • June 19, 2007, 10:41 p.m. CST


    by Merrick


  • June 19, 2007, 10:42 p.m. CST

    superninja, that was poetry

    by Bronx Cheer

    very good.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Supes is too powerful

    by Colonel Activity

    That's like making a movie about me picking up just know there's no way it's not going to happen.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:43 p.m. CST


    by Pound Sand

    I just got off the phone with Goodyear. That thing would make the Joker's face look like an Eggo.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:43 p.m. CST

    re: Grapes of Wrath

    by Andillformthehead

    WOW... <br>

  • June 19, 2007, 10:44 p.m. CST

    I always wanted the Coen Bros. to do a Superman

    by superninja

    movie as a period piece.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:45 p.m. CST

    People complain about Batmans

    by pjdon

    'growly' voice in BB but i watched it again last night and noticed that that is pretty much how he always talks, he does deepen it a bit, but not a great deal.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Bullets,Cape,and Batpod

    by spidermanfreak20

    It's obvious Batman wants to intimidate and cause fear. The guns don't have real bullets. Most likely blanks or rubber bullets. Rubber bullets can still hurt but not kill. Batman doesn't have a fucking AI Batarang that magically hits the villains in the head (Returns I'm looking at you). The Cape can't get caught in the tire because HELLO IT CAN FORM A SHAPE! Remember Lucius showed him that using memory clothe and current Batman can form any shape. It's obvious Batman can shape it NOT to be loose and get caught in the wheel. The Batpod makes sense in case Joker fucked up the Tumbler somehow. And also Batman needs to get around quickly and in alleyways the Tumbler is difficult to get through especially if the alley ways are dead ends. If anyone saw The Big Fat Kill you know Joker can have his goons waiting above firing down on the Tumbler. I keep imagining Joker leading the Tumbler in an alleyway knowing like Austin Powers Batman won't be able to reverse it then trapping him with street buses or something.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Do you think that Pod can crab?

    by Bronx Cheer

    I don't think it can, but there are some hints in the strut design that suggest...only suggest...that the wheels can rotate 90 degrees to allow the Pod to crab, like a camera dolly. THAT would be cool watching that thing go fast as hell forward, slow down, then crab sideways to dodge traffic...or to help Meadow Soprano to park, because she sure seems in need of some lessons.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:50 p.m. CST

    spidermanfreak20 i'd love

    by pjdon

    a 10 minute scene of bats trying to get the tumbler out of a tight alley.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:50 p.m. CST

    I have been on a Coen binge lately, and I would LOVE

    by Bronx Cheer

    seeing what those two would do with Supes. superninja is on roll.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:51 p.m. CST

    Kevin Conroy's Batman growled in the cartoons

    by superninja

    it's part of the character at this point.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Bronx Cheer wow you must

    by pjdon

    be full. I can only eat one Coen brother and then I feel sick.<p>Millars Crossing shows that they could do a brilliant Batman film.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Hey, I have been saying that for years about Supes.

    by superninja

    Bronx, read Superman for All Seasons and then picture the Coens directing an adaptation (except they need to change the ending).

  • June 19, 2007, 10:54 p.m. CST

    re: Superninja and BTAS

    by Andillformthehead

    "I am the night"! <br> yep.

  • June 19, 2007, 10:57 p.m. CST

    I think Batman should sound like

    by Colonel Activity

    Ross the intern from Leno. Exactly like that.

  • June 19, 2007, 11 p.m. CST

    He does wear armor in the comics

    by QuinnTheEskimo

    Not spandex. I read an interview with a comics artist (can't remember who now) and he said that they think of Batman as wearing some sort of armor, it would just be a pain in the ass to draw it all the time.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:01 p.m. CST

    I am still the only person who liked Holmes's Dawes.

    by superninja

    I thought she came across as the same age as Bruce but more emotionally mature than him. You could see why he liked her and why she was smart enough to stay away at the end.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:03 p.m. CST

    Anyway thought it was interesting that she

    by superninja

    realized the Batman persona is Bruce working things out instead of going, "Oooh, rubber, I loooove men in rubber suits. Oooh! And bats! gigglegiggle." :P

  • June 19, 2007, 11:06 p.m. CST

    While I think Holmes is something of a lightweight

    by Bronx Cheer

    as an actor, especially considering all the talent she was surrounded by, I think the bulk of animosity to0ward her was a reflection of how much people are annoyed by Tom Cruise. I also think fanboys were pissed because she is not a 38DD cup. I don't think she was terrible, nor was she great. But she hardly killed the film. I thought the take on Gordon was worse than Holmses' acting. Some of the aw shucks gee whiz crap coming out of Oldman's mouth was atrocious. He started sounding like Goofy.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:07 p.m. CST

    She wasn't half as bad as people say

    by pjdon

    I hope they kill her character off (by the Jokers hand of course) in the next one, Batman doesn't need a love interest and it would free up space in the plot and make Batman very very very....<p>....annoyed

  • June 19, 2007, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Gordons character didn't have

    by pjdon

    enough screen time to develop or do anything interesting.<p>I hope DK has Gordon and Dent as very prominent characters trying to bring down the Joker and keep the city together with the help of Batman.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:15 p.m. CST

    I liked Gordon like that. He's sort of like Superman

    by superninja

    but without the powers. I've always thought of Gordon as a straight-shooter not the Miller version of him (gag).

  • June 19, 2007, 11:17 p.m. CST

    superninja - that's what you'd be like I bet

    by pjdon

    'tee hee, Batman, ooh what a big ride you have.'

  • June 19, 2007, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Tim Burton's Batman Vs. Batman Begins

    by lost.rules

    I loved Timmy's Batman when I was a kid, but it hasn't aged well. The theatricallity of it impressed me when I was little, but now it's silly. The Danny Elfman score will always kick ass, though. Batman Begins is a great adult version of Batman. I doubt I would enjoy it if I were still a kid, though. I think Batman Begins will stand the test of time as where Burton's did not. I have faith in Nolan. He seems more confident with every picture he makes. The Prestige kicked my ass. Love that movie!

  • June 19, 2007, 11:18 p.m. CST

    Nah, I would kick him to the curb like Dawes.

    by superninja

    I am a Supes or Cap kind of girl. :)

  • June 19, 2007, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Burton's Batman is still pretty fun as its own thing.

    by superninja

    It's campy but gothic. Batman Returns, now there is a real steamer.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:24 p.m. CST

    lost.rules I can't

    by pjdon

    wait for the confidence Nolan built up on BB and The Prestige to show on DK.<p>Directing must be such a hard and overwhelming job and for Nolan BB was his first big movie, it must have been hard with all those big names, sets and studio pressure to concentrate on being creative.<p>Did anyone else think that BB must be a really boring flm for little kids? I took my 11 yr old brother and his mate to see it and they where half asleep by the end.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Oh, and I have a man crush on Christain Bale.

    by lost.rules

    "My mind is telling me NO! But my body says yeah, yeah, yeah, YEAH!"

  • June 19, 2007, 11:28 p.m. CST

    I actually prefer Returns

    by pjdon

    although it's been a few years since I saw it.<p>Watched the 1st one a few weeks back again, hasn't aged as well as i would have thought.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Yeah. If I were a kid, I'd probably be bored with it.

    by lost.rules

    Although, I was a weird kid. I don't think too many kids were watching films like Apocalypse Now and Goodfellas like I did. Maybe I would have liked it.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:31 p.m. CST

    pjdon "Bruce and Gordon should be giant towering men"

    by The Dum Guy

    Actually according to comic book continuity, both actor fit the bill for the respective roles they played, Bale is 6'1 and at 220 lb's he is what Batman should be, and Routhe (sp?) is around the same frame as Supes...<br><br>Not, to nit-pick, but both actors are very suited for the roles.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:31 p.m. CST

    RE: Holmes' Dawes

    by Colonel Activity

    She talks out of the side of her fucking mouth. And it's perfectly acceptable to have a man-crush on Bale, much like it is okay to have a man-crush on Harrison Ford circa 1984 or Sean Connery circa 1967.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:31 p.m. CST

    I like Gordon straight. I disliked the silly oneliners.

    by Bronx Cheer

    Leave the oneliners to the bad guys. I like Gordon as the side of Batman who works within the law. They have always been two sides of the same coin for me. No nonsense, no frills, not a lot of wasted of action and decency. Wayne was rich which makes you a little different, but to me they're two halves of a whole. Gotham does not stand a chance with only one of them on the job.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Man crushes are wierd

    by pjdon

    My girlfriend thinks I have a thing for Tom Cruise and Mathew Fox cuz I keep going on about their screen presense and Jacks 'Jack Face'.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Gonna do the Bump the Grind....

    by lost.rules

    Bump and Grind with Bale.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Nothing wrong with man crushes. Men who don't have

    by Bronx Cheer

    or don't admit to having man crushes are very rare, or liars. I still have a little trouble with Ewan McGregor. I worked on one job with him and he's a great guy, devoted to his wife and family, and he's just incredible to behold. And this is coming from a man who is about as hetero as they come in sexual preference, although I am a screaming artfag.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:37 p.m. CST

    OOOHhhHH! Mathew Fox! He's TOO SEXY!

    by lost.rules

    Man, I'd tear that shit up. Oh, wait. I'm not gay. But if I were...heheh ALRIGHT! Giggity!

  • June 19, 2007, 11:38 p.m. CST

    I should have written "hetero men" because, of course,

    by Bronx Cheer

    gay and bi men have man crushes and can act on them. Hetero men have to repress it and punch a wall instead.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:39 p.m. CST

    whoever says that batman's suit looks like a variant...

    by Cotton McKnight

    is a homo. There is no basis for that statement. So the suit looks different, so what? The last movie was called "Batman Begins", meaning he hadn't quite worked it all out yet. The first suit, after all, was basically out out Luscious Fox's lab and was nothing more than a military outfit. Of course he would have improved upon the design by the time of the second movie.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:40 p.m. CST

    A little bit of Renton all night long!

    by lost.rules

    Wow. I've really discovered some things about myself on this TB.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:40 p.m. CST

    No man crush for Bale. Too bumpy.

    by Bronx Cheer

    Okay, I'm finished with the man-crush talk.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Always thought

    by pjdon

    Jim Cavaizel was a bit of alright.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:42 p.m. CST

    Go lost.rules, set yourself free. It is Pride Week.

    by Bronx Cheer

    I wonder if anyone has come "out" in a Talkback?

  • June 19, 2007, 11:42 p.m. CST

    lost.rules... I understand that whole....

    by The Dum Guy

    Apocalypse Now thing. When I was like 12 I rented that movie along with some other friends of mine at that times picks (Mosquito, Cool World and Blob-remake)and I got ragged on sooo much for picking "Apolo Now". In retrospect maybe having a higher I.Q. leads one into being rediculed, but then again who's laughing now without having kids (or prison time) by age 19.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:44 p.m. CST

    BB is to comic book films as Watchmen is to comic books

    by Bronx Cheer

    Grown up.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Yeah, except Routh has no charisma and

    by superninja

    looks like he belongs on an MTV show.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:45 p.m. CST

    I dunno pjdon.

    by lost.rules

    I think I'd feel pretty guilty fucking Jesus.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:45 p.m. CST

    I wonder if Batman and Superman had a baby,

    by Bronx Cheer

    Would You Believe A Man Could Fly Blind?

  • June 19, 2007, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Holy shit, lost, you didn't have to spell it out.

    by Bronx Cheer

    "I think I'd feel pretty guilty fucking Jesus." We just had some lightning here in NYC. Be careful...Someone's awake!

  • June 19, 2007, 11:48 p.m. CST

    I am kind of irked that somewhere out there off in the

    by superninja

    future there may even a a slight chance Bale's Batman will have to pretend to pay respect to Routh's Superman. And I say pretend because Bale will need a BIG paycheck on that day.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:49 p.m. CST

    I'd fuck Jesus...

    by The Dum Guy

    Only in order to piss most people off.<br><br>Come on, wouldn't you really love it for Jesus to really "love" you?

  • June 19, 2007, 11:49 p.m. CST

    If the Godfather, Apocalypse Now, Taxi Driver

    by pjdon

    Easy Rider etc where released today they wouldn't make any money or even be marketed by the studios.<p>When i was working in a video shop old guys would come in and say 'i'll tell you what was a good film young man, The Graduate, they don't make them like that now, all films are shit now.'<p>I'd try to tell them that they still make films like that but they are no-longer the main releases and try and suggest some more obscure films. They would then proceed to ignore me and rent out the latest shit film out.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:49 p.m. CST

    Fire Routh, Fire Singer, Fire Spacey, Fire Bosworth

    by superninja

    and fire that kid!

  • June 19, 2007, 11:50 p.m. CST

    Maybe The Dum Guy isn't a good screen name for u

    by lost.rules

    Don't feel bad. I can't count the number of cinematic masterpieces I've tried to get my friends to watch, and either they don't, or they completely ridicule it if they do. Every once in awhile though, there is a breakthrough. Now, my girlfriend on the other hand is a different story. Her favorite movie is Bad Boys 2, and she loves Nascar. How do I cure her of her bad taste? I just don't know.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:50 p.m. CST

    Sorry what'syourface, but college is now no longer pie

    by superninja

    in the sky!

  • June 19, 2007, 11:51 p.m. CST

    You will believe that

    by superninja

    a boy can lose his college fund!

  • June 19, 2007, 11:52 p.m. CST

    I mean college is now pie in the sky but oh well

    by superninja

    you get my point. Fire everyone associate with SR returns, the White Castle guy especially.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:52 p.m. CST

    I mean college is now pie in the sky but oh well

    by superninja

    you get my point. Fire everyone associate with SR returns, the White Castle guy especially.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:53 p.m. CST

    Goodnight, kids. Timmy's gotta sleep.

    by Bronx Cheer

    Have fun.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Sorry for the double.

    by superninja


  • June 19, 2007, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Routh looked like Reeves...

    by pjdon

    he was very typically good looking and chissled but unlike Reeves he had zero wisdom in his eyes.<p>Superman should look wise and intelligent.<p>That is why Cavizel would have been great, he has the looks and the depth.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Of course, if my girlfriend has bad taste, and she is

    by lost.rules

    dating me....I retract my previous statements. God Bless you, Michael Bay.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Re: Man crushes

    by Colonel Activity

    The best man-crush is Colbert's for McConaughey. He says that his test to find out if his co-workers are gay is to ask them if they find McConaughey gay. If they say yes, then they're not, because he, "doesn't care where you stable your pony, that's the choicest cut of man-flesh." But if you say no, you're just trying to cover your tracks; there's no way a gay man could resist McConaughey, you liar....that kind of stuff is hilarious to me.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Routh looked like Reeve when Reeve was 16.

    by superninja

    There is nothing man about Routh. Just like there is nothing man about Tom Cruise.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Taste in people is not the same as popular culture.

    by Bronx Cheer

    I'm sure she's a swell gal and you're a cool guy. But Bad Boys 2? Holy crap.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:58 p.m. CST

    Spacey was too obvious for Luthor

    by pjdon

    it bores me when they do that, i like it when someone like Ledger plays the Joker and it is hard to picture what his performance will be like.<p>Spacey just slept through that role.<p>I always thought Eric Bana with a shaved head would make a great Luthor.

  • June 19, 2007, 11:58 p.m. CST


    by The Dum Guy

    Sorry to sound crass, but lick her clit 'till she screams, while making her watch good cinema, thing Pavlov's Dog.<br><br>And, by the way my handle is a mix between my old e-mail account, and my self-depracation.

  • June 20, 2007, midnight CST

    You people...

    by mr. brownstone

    don't know how good you have it. Like Cameron said... you are "fan fucking" everything to death.

  • June 20, 2007, midnight CST

    The closer they can get to the Animated Series

    by superninja

    Luthor the better. Although I think Bana would've made a killer Supes. Did you ever see him in Troy?

  • June 20, 2007, midnight CST

    I heard that they

    by Colonel Activity

    cast Cruise as Tiny Tim in an upcoming production of A Christman Carol.

  • June 20, 2007, midnight CST

    I never watched Bad Boys 2 untill I started dating her.

    by lost.rules

    Now, I've seen it a dozen times. KILL ME.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:01 a.m. CST

    that should read

    by Colonel Activity


  • June 20, 2007, 12:01 a.m. CST

    ---side not---

    by The Dum Guy

    Don't judge me by my grammer/spelling, "It's not that I'm lazy, I just don't care"

  • June 20, 2007, 12:02 a.m. CST

    Tom Cruise will finally get around to the role he

    by superninja

    is meant to play at 50: Peter Pan.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Eric Bana would've kicked ass as the Supes!

    by lost.rules

    Munich Eric Bana. Not the Hulk one. Although, it really wasn't his fault Hulk sucked.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:03 a.m. CST

    The Joker

    by Colonel Activity

    is reportedly a totally sadistic monster in this movie, he will not be funny, and Ledger is going way-the-fuck out there with this role.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Nah, wasn't Bana's fault. Bana and Connolly

    by superninja

    were really understated I'm sure it was deliberate. <p> Wish I was looking forward to The Joker, but I'm really afraid it could ruin the movie for me. I don't want to see sicko stuff in a Batman film. Inappropriate.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Colonel Activity

    by lost.rules

    Thanks for the good news. I know Ledger can pull it off. I've seen Brokeback Mountain too many times to know that he's too good of an actor not to pull....wait...wait....I've never seen Brokeback Mountain. I'm straight. I swear. Even though I sometimes force my girlfriend to pretend to be Jake Gyllenhal, while I play Ennis, and we're in the tent together on a cold, lonely night.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:10 a.m. CST

    If anyone gets laid tonight...

    by Colonel Activity

    it's because of Bana in "Munich"!

  • June 20, 2007, 12:11 a.m. CST

    "...sicko stuff in a Batman film. Inappropriate."

    by The Dum Guy

    From a movie that's about a guy who dresses in a bat-suit and hunts down maniacs that parade themselves as demented clowns?<br><br>What?

  • June 20, 2007, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Tom Cruise....

    by pjdon

    Sorry I have always had respect for him and he has yet to make a really bad film. Not everything he does is brilliant but even actors like deNiro make utter shit. Tom always tries to do something new and each film succeeds in some way.<p>If you compare him to most actors he gets way too much shit.<p>And I don't care in the slightest what he is like in real life. He can fuck horses for all I care, it's his work as an actor I care about.<p>Never understood peoples obbsession with actors private lives, they are just people, not aliens or something, I don't care what my postman does when he gets home.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Re: The Joker

    by Colonel Activity

    I heard that in one scene he crashes a Harvey Dent campaign commercial shoot and starts randomly bitch-slapping people around. This Joker wants to keep his pimp-hand strong.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:13 a.m. CST

    I was commenting on the fact that Cruise never

    by superninja

    appears to age. He never seems like a mature character to me.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Fuck horses?

    by Colonel Activity

    What about cats? And I don't mind Cruise as an actor, I just think he's kind of a dickface. I mean, I don't like Ryan Adams, but I love his music.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Dum Guy, serial killer type stuff doesn't belong

    by superninja

    in a Batman movie, I don't care what he wears. The Joker is supposed to be funny and charismatic, and Hitchock scary, not Gacy serial killer.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:17 a.m. CST


    by Colonel Activity

    I want to see what Ledger is going to do with J-man so bad that I don't think I can even get interested in any other films from now until July 2008.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:17 a.m. CST

    What took Cruise over the top for me was his silly

    by superninja

    performance in The Last Samurai.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Ledger can be charming but I have the feeling

    by superninja

    they are going the most obvious route and mistakingly thinking it's deep.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:21 a.m. CST


    by Ribbons

    Care to elaborate? Both on which way you "have the feeling" they're going and why it's the wrong one?

  • June 20, 2007, 12:22 a.m. CST


    by The Dum Guy

    What?<br><br>What is the difference between Gacy and Norman Bates? I think the Joker is best portrayed as a guy who finds the humor in the face of a man who just got his spleen ripped out of him...<br><br>But, then, who can say they have the "best" idea for a fictional character?

  • June 20, 2007, 12:27 a.m. CST

    I'll give Cruise credit for choosing projects wisely.

    by lost.rules

    And he's a good actor. I don't care that he's gay. Come out of the closet, Tom. You're not fooling anyone.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Does anyone not like

    by pjdon

    Brokeback Mountain? I thought it was pretty much flawless.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:32 a.m. CST

    The image they've shown where he's cut his face

    by superninja

    and the description that he has greasy hair and cracking makeup/skin and that they're going extreme and that he is sadistic and will be hated seem to indicate they are going the horror route. <p> Contrast this with the vain charismatic character who maintains a polished appearance and the evil lurking in him lies beneath the surface. It's much more subtle and interesting to me. He is still very much a dark character, the contrast is more interesting.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:35 a.m. CST


    by whatyoufear

    in response to your stance on serial killers not belonging in batman stories.. are you (or have you) been reading the same batman comics as the rest of the world? The Joker is one of the most criminally insane characters ever written in comic books, and another notable character, Victor Zsasz, was even semi-featured in Batman Begins. I recall reading some pretty disturbing bat-books (Detective Comics and the like) back in the mid-to-late 80's (covers featuring shrunken mummified heads and bloody axes, ETC.).

  • June 20, 2007, 12:35 a.m. CST

    The Joker doesn't think pulling someone's spleen

    by superninja

    out is funny. That's too obvious, he would tell you he's going to pull out your spleen and then douse you with Joker gas and as you were dying say, "What did you think I was going to do, pull out your spleen? Ahahahahah."

  • June 20, 2007, 12:36 a.m. CST

    I am aware of Zsasz, and I'm sure there are other

    by superninja

    more minor examples, but I think you know the distinction I am making with the Joker.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:39 a.m. CST

    agree to disagree...

    by The Dum Guy

    I don't want to like the Joker, I want to HAVE to like the Joker.<br><br>He is the bad guy, but I so want to see him win just for the fact he shouldn't. But, I don't want him to be overly funny, or seem like he should be a comedian (actually think of the Comedian in Watchmen and then think of the Joker, what's the difference in character other than one's a "hero" and the other isn't).<br><br>Actually, that's a bad analogy since the Joker is way smarter (in character) than the Comedian could ever be.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:39 a.m. CST

    superman has a friggin daughter

    by Admiral Kirk

    named Lara. His and wonderwoman's offspring- he can't mate with mortals- mallrats was right-Shotgun spooge through the top of the head. It's simple physics.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:40 a.m. CST

    There are various interpretations of the character

    by superninja

    obviously I have a personal preference. If they could translate the Hammill Joker I would be perfectly happy, I love that character. Plus I don't like the realism getting too real it is a superhero movie, I don't see the need for Joker to be disturbing in that way Not fun. Again, personal preference.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:41 a.m. CST

    I always pictured the Joker shooting

    by Colonel Activity

    someone randomly and then saying, "Oops," and then laughing. Also, I heard that the Joker gets the gash from a zipline catching him in the face, not from cutting himself.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:41 a.m. CST

    two things

    by whatyoufear

    ONE- the joker they're going for in this movie sounds dead-fucking-on.. TWO- does it look to anyone else like the batpod could potentially fold in half? the supports for the wheels are only on one side.. wondering if this means those are actually BOTH front wheels from the tumbler, and not just one. i wonder if the foley artists are working on a grittier, more realistic Transformers sound for this feature.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:41 a.m. CST

    The Joker is only funny because he thinks he's

    by superninja

    funny. No one else does.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:42 a.m. CST

    I can see performance motorcycle riders groaning...

    by RadWon

    as they gaze upon that thing. But at least it ain't a Harley or some other two wheeled farm tractor. It wouldn't handle too well either with those huge 'un-round' wheels. The only direction that thing is going, is straight.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:43 a.m. CST

    A seriously evil Joker is needed...

    by andrew coleman

    Jack's Joker repeated would be boring I think a murderous lunatic Joker is much scarier and will have people cheering for Batman to kick his ass. In Burton's Batman you almost kind of liked the Joker and didn't want to see him go down. In response to the Bat Pod, first I'm sure it's not called that in the movie. Also I thought it was common movie dork knowledge that the Joker destroys the tumbler. So the pod is more like an escape vehicle. The gun probably shoot nets or spears not bullets. People should really stop complaining this movie is going to be the best movie of next summer and be better than anything out this summer.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:43 a.m. CST

    The Batpod

    by Colonel Activity

    can jack-knife to get higher and stretch out to get lower to the ground. Read the LA Times sold me on this do-dad.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:46 a.m. CST

    Blaster Master?

    by whatyoufear

    Nolan is mining NES games for his movie goodness.. pure GENIUS!!!

  • June 20, 2007, 12:48 a.m. CST

    If you want to laugh

    by Colonel Activity

    listen to the commentary for the unrated version of "Anchorman". Adam McKay is fucking hilarious. Since it's unrated, they try to be as filthy as possible. "Look at that fruity glass of owl cum!" "There's a large pepperoni pizza sprinkled with pubic hair!" "An orgy consisting of only members of The A-Team, look at that!" It's way better than I'm making it sound. They also bring Lou Rawls in for a large bit for no reason; he and Will Ferrell have a scat-off. Classic.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:49 a.m. CST

    The Joker in Dk

    by pjdon

    should represent the opposite of organized crime. <p>Batman has been fighting organized crime through fear.<p>If the Joker doesn't feel fear and just kills randomly to get at Batman it undermines everything Batman does.<p>Most bad guys can't hurt Bats because they don't know who he is and therefore can't hurt his loved ones.<p>The Joker would just start killing everyone to get at him.<p>I think bats having to deal with this dilema while not wanting to actually kill the Joker creates a very interesting dynamic.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Jack's Joker was amusing but he mostly

    by superninja

    seemed inept and also chubby. Hardly in the same league as the animated Joker.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:54 a.m. CST

    Nite all

    by pjdon

    nite nite

  • June 20, 2007, 12:57 a.m. CST


    by mattthebat

    i sort of understand where you are coming from, but i do think it will be nice to see a new view on the joker and not rehash something we've all seen. and in response to you not wanting the joker to be disturbing, they could cross a line, but i highly doubt there's gonna be a chance of seeing any of this completely sadistic gross stuff you're worried about, because the movie will end up with a pg-13 or 14a rating. there's only so much sadistic-ness you can put in there

  • June 20, 2007, 1 a.m. CST

    Singer was emasculated by Donner

    by Crestfallen

    I agree with david19, the most compelling screen version of Superman has been the Bruce Timm crew behind BTAS, STAS, and Justice League Unlimited. It seems that the stature of Donner's Superman in cinematic history intimidated and/or entranced Singer so much that he couldn't take the franchise anywhere new (or, interesting). Those Superman films hardly present the definitive Superman.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:01 a.m. CST

    probably right, matt

    by superninja

    well, goodnite all!

  • June 20, 2007, 1:08 a.m. CST

    Matt Bagoo, you've done it again...

    by Napoleon Park

    I was reluctant to use the word "Batpod" - I wanted to know how many songs the thing held. <p> but reading the comments here, it's obvious that it MUST be an escape pod type getaway vehicle, since it's really impractical as a bike. Oh, that tiny cone housing in front might create a slipstream wind that would keep bugs out of your face at over 70 MPH or so, but any slower and you're picking crickets out of the back of your throat. It seems to have a very small, miniaturized propulsion engine, no doubt some very powerful sci-fi mumbo-jumbo - it just doesn't look like it would be good for high speeds, long runs or safe maneuver-ablity <p> And no fenders, really? Forget the cape, but try running that thing with no front fender in any rain, mud, on lose soil or sand, on gravel... Bat's would need a goofy motorcycle helmet with a full face shield (cool) and holes for his ears to stick up out of like his old SuperFriends space helmet (totally uncool.)<p> The fat tires and big guns remind me of the Bisley Judge Dredd. The people doing this should try reviving the Judge Dredd franchise, then adapt one of the Batman/Dredd comics. That would be fun.<p> So how many songs do you thing this thing does hold, anyway? And what do you think Batman listens to while cruising along on this thing? <p> just ready to click on post when it hit me - the chunky suit is his Dark knight arbor, this is his steed and those long guns are his bat lances. I think they're taking the Knight reference way to literally, since it was all just a silly pun on "it was a dark and stormy night" in the first place. <p> Maybe one of the action figure variants will be the all-weather Stormy Knight figure.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:12 a.m. CST

    You guys are limiting your

    by JUSTICE41

    You guys are limiting your thinking when it comes to Superman. No need to down power him just put a villain against him that can not only woop on him but scare the bejeesus out of him and everyone else. The Parasite. Imagine this guy sapping Supes like a Vampire. he not only steals Supes powers but his memories and terrorizes everyone. Luthor will never be a great villain in the movies unless it's played for laughs. The battle between Supes and Parasite would be great. with every blow Supes gets weaker and weaker but in the end Parasite will fall victim to supes own weakness Kryptonite. I can already picture some scenes of the battle the hiding places Supes would have to go. One relentless confrontation after another until the end where The Parasite is undone by Kryptonite held in the hands of Superman hisself. They could introduce the Detention area in the FOS.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:14 a.m. CST




  • June 20, 2007, 1:15 a.m. CST

    all I know is...

    by ckone

    Rachel Dawes better not get captured by the Joker in this one. I am SOO SO SO tired of the damsel in distress routine, unless he actually cripples/maims/kills her? then I can accept it, but after Spiderman3 and how absolutely idiotic it was for them to have MJ BACK in danger, she friggin looked was so lame. I believe Nolan is smarter than that, but it had to be said, if she gets captured, I don't want all of her coming back. :) As far as the Joker being serial killer style...fine with me..we got Jack Nicholson Joker the last time, and while he embodied the role...I would love a completely different approach...Ledger is as different of an approach as you can get!As far as the escape pod...I hope it isn't much as it looks like will bug me, I would much rather it be a seperate vehicle...that is styled after the tumbler...I think a gold or yellow bat on his chest might be cool, it would break up the monotony of the suit while giving a target for bad guys to aim at other than his head.but if it is just the light and is really still with me too. I think it is still black though...anything that remotely sniffs of Shumacher I think they would stray far from and that is what that does. that make sense?

  • June 20, 2007, 1:22 a.m. CST

    Looked at the costume again

    by Napoleon Park

    those aren't platforms or bat-loafers, you jokers, they're obviously heavily cushioned paratrooper type boots - a very practical choice for someone who swings on a rope and scales the sides of buildings and jumps from rooftop to rooftop. <p> Looking closely, that does look like the chest emblem is yellow, but they tried to hide that fact with the lighting. Hope I'm wrong, just sayin' that's how it looks. <p> And didn't Afflecks red leather bondage Daredevil leathers have a separate collar and headpiece? <p> yeah, the look of the one piece cape and cowl in the comics is classic, but it stops being practical the first time someone grabs the cape and pulls back hard - or hangs him with it. And he has removed the cape and remained masked in some versions of the comics, so it must be separate even if it appears that it isn't.<p> in all the years of reading the comics, I never got the impression that it was a high-impact synthetic combat helmet, but really, it makes as much sense as Keaton's kevlar lined costume. <p> And the old "bright target to draw their fire" excuse for the gold oval - that would explain a yellow or gold bat sheet emblem - better to get shot on a chunk of armor than in the unprotected lower face. <p> Though if he is riding a big-wheel with no windscreen or front fender, shouldn't the mask have the white lenses to protect his eyes? It just makes sense. <p> - Yeah, like Batman makes sense... Comics fans get carried away some times.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:31 a.m. CST


    by whatyoufear

    are the clasps gone? is it less orange? where is moviemack??

  • June 20, 2007, 1:32 a.m. CST

    Y'know what would be a great comment

    by Napoleon Park

    ...on the whole sidekick cliche? Do Killing Joke as Batman III and include a Batgirl origin. Get it? Barbara Gordon figures out Batman's secret identity, blackmails her way into getting her own costume, gimmicks and motorbike, insists on being Batman's 'sidekick'. Then like two days later the Joker's figured out her "secret" identity, knocks on her front door, shoots her in the uterus and spine, then takes pornographic photos of her while she's dying. <p> You all remember the old Robin gag, right? "I have a all dark costume with a bright yellow shield of half inch thick metal armor to give the bad guys a target to shoot at and draw their fire away from my face. Here, put on this red and green t-shirt and this bright yellow cape, okay?"

  • June 20, 2007, 1:36 a.m. CST

    what the fuck??!!!!

    by Admiral Kirk

  • June 20, 2007, 1:39 a.m. CST


    by whatyoufear

    jesus christ kirk DO NOT WANT

  • June 20, 2007, 1:42 a.m. CST

    Looked at the pod again

    by Napoleon Park

    The side view looks like it was designed by a sci-fi anime artist who doesn't really understand how the suspension and shock absorbers on a motorcycle work or what they're supposed to do. Like a kid making a drawing without using any reference, or someone making a model out of a box full or spare model parts. <p> the armaments on the front view are intriguing, though. Small caliber machine guns - possible tire piercing darts? - clost to ground level. Above that.. the long ones, maybe not guns. Ramming lances or, as someone guessed, flame throwers? And above that, the ones with the tapering knobby points set in grooves so the elevation can be adjusted - I'm thinking rockets, either ramming bolts or shrapneling fragmentation explosives - though the latter doesn't seem like something Batman would use.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:45 a.m. CST

    Hey, I'm on a roll here

    by Napoleon Park

    no fucking pictures of Dame Cook in his panties, please.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:51 a.m. CST

    What I'd like to see

    by Napoleon Park

    would be a medium budget Batman movie, either theatrical or made for TV, done as a historical period piece set in the '50s, based on the '50s Batman and Detective comics, with the grinning Batman, the chubby spit-curled Robin, Batwoman, ACE the Bat-Hound (complete with cowl and cape) the big-ass Batmobile with the huge fins, the Bat-cave with the giant penny, the stuffed Robo-T-Rex and the giant Joker card, and best of all, the one-man Whirley-Bats. Who needs to swing on a bat-rope when you have a whirly-bat? With the big turd-looking Clayface as the villain. and interdimensional UFO aliens and Batman with a raygun. <p> That would be tits. And not of the nipples on a Batsuit variety.

  • June 20, 2007, 2 a.m. CST

    Meredith Viera...

    by American Mythos

    Damn, is it just me, or is she an opportunist when it comes to throwing out blatant innuendo. That is one sexy woman. You see, I'm 21, but I just have a thing for older women. And for christ's sake don't liken it to anything involving the word Oedipus. On another note, thanks to X-Men 3, Spiderman 3, the Sopranos finale, and other works of television and film that I highly anticipated but was ultimately let down, I'll be going into The Dark Knight with low expectations -- Fuck that, Batman is my hero, and the Joker is the coolest fucking villian of all time, and Heath Ledger starred in one of my all time favorite films (Brokeback Mountain). There is no way this movie can disappoint.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:22 a.m. CST

    Bronx Cheer called it...

    by Hairy Nutsack

    Both front wheels rotate 90 degrees, the "arms' clearly have pivoting joints at the top near the body. I think this thing is the front wheels of the Tumbler.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Mallrats and Niven are wrong...

    by UltimaRex

    Superman is invulnerable. He can fly into the sun. What do you think that does to the old super-stamina? He'll go all night, every night and not even get close to shooting his muck. This is why Lois will never leave him. Oh, and batpod? Me still likey.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:36 a.m. CST

    Peter Jackson for JLA!

    by UltimaRex

    Peter Jackson for JLA!

  • June 20, 2007, 2:38 a.m. CST


    by UltimaRex

    Jason was conceived when Superman was powerless so no siblings.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:44 a.m. CST


    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell


  • June 20, 2007, 2:55 a.m. CST


    by UltimaRex

    Batman wears fire and slash resistant tights over armor in the comics. In TDK, it looks like he's wearing armor over fire and slash resistant tights. More interesting visually.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:56 a.m. CST

    Waiting and seeing

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Nolan walks a very fine line between real and silly in these films, and it doesn't quite work for me. There's something about that 'explain everything' method he's using that just provokes more questions - then you find yourself looking at a picture of a new batcycle and, while it does look cool, you can't help thinking that this twenty-first century Batman would never ride such a daffy and unpractical looking thing.<p>Still, I have enough residual respect left for Nolan (from Memento) that I'm prepared to wait and see how it turns out. Although that respect is running out now that he's settled into his life of turning out solid but unremarkable studio fodder.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:02 a.m. CST

    Peter Jackson for JLA!

    by UltimaRex

    Come on WB. You got the script, get Jackson. Everyone else, ask yourselves this: What whould you prefer? Peter Jackson's JLA or Peter Jackson's Tintin?

  • June 20, 2007, 3:07 a.m. CST


    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    yes the fucking board game! wtf! says it a buzz bin

  • June 20, 2007, 3:16 a.m. CST


    by Quintus_Arrius

    Peter Jackson's Tintin. I just don't think JLA would work on screen.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:19 a.m. CST

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOX HAS HALO!!

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

  • June 20, 2007, 3:27 a.m. CST


    by Droogie Alex

    The ears on this Bat costume are still way too small. Nedds Bernie Wrightson lenght.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:31 a.m. CST

    They'd better not be guns!

    by xmanse

    The main thing that really annoyed me about tim burtons batman was machine guns on the batmobile. He wouldn't bloody have them!

  • June 20, 2007, 3:36 a.m. CST


    by Boondock Devil

    Don't forget that he even had bloody rockets on his Batwing.

  • June 20, 2007, 4:28 a.m. CST

    Fox has Halo? WHY!!!!!

    by Gotta Eat Mancats

    I can see it now, Halo the movie, by Paul W.S Anderson and Brett Ratner

  • June 20, 2007, 4:30 a.m. CST

    It looks to me like the Bat-Pod

    by PurityOfEssence

    ... is supposed to be collapsible (hence the pod designation). But that's just a guess - based on the way the suspension system is designed it seems very bare bones. Not sure what I think of it yet - on other bat vehicle fronts I hope that batmobile stays of the roof tops in this film (it wasn't the car "jumping" that bothered me - it was the fact that the roofs didn't collapse under the weight.

  • June 20, 2007, 4:30 a.m. CST


    by Gotta Eat Mancats

    where's the fucking Batpod commercial with the silhouette of Robin's taint dancing in the background to Fall Out Boy, it's the new hip thing from Apple you know, so it needs a commercial like that

  • June 20, 2007, 4:39 a.m. CST

    Fox has Halo . . .

    by TheManWithTooManyNames

    so they can slap a PG 13 on it.

  • June 20, 2007, 4:50 a.m. CST

    Quintus Arrius

    by UltimaRex

    Don't think JLA would work as a movie? Without the director who made LOTR work on the screen, you may be right. Peter Jackson for JLA!

  • June 20, 2007, 6:15 a.m. CST

    I'll say it again

    by Trader Groucho 2

    Cool, but scant defense against an IED. Don't expect the Army to clone this one for our boys in Iraq.

  • June 20, 2007, 6:42 a.m. CST

    In line with the tumbler........but

    by LLcruize2

    I agree with those that have said it is nice, definitely in line with the tumbler. But the practical element here. There is no way the cape doesn't get caught up in the wheel. But, this is the movies and even though Nolan and co. pride themselves on realism, you have to suspend that every once in a while to accomodate something like this.

  • June 20, 2007, 6:43 a.m. CST

    Relax about the guns already!

    by DDeRosia82

    Batman's not shooting anybody; chill, alright? BB made it clear to us that Bats will never willingly take another's life, even a serial murderer's. (That's not to say that the title of this film might not imply that he goes off the deep end soon.)</P><P>The guns are probably a version of the same thing featured by the police cars of the future that I saw on a Discovery program some time ago. They shoot out things that stop the vehicle they're chasing or slow them down. That having been said, yes, they do look like guns. But even the Tumbler had an oozie on it, remember? There are just some situations in Batman's daily life that require an oozie or vehicle-mounted automatic weaponry.

  • June 20, 2007, 6:46 a.m. CST

    And as for the Batpop being collapsable...

    by DDeRosia82

    My own humble guess is that its two wheels are the Tumbler's two front wheels. Yes, I know what I'm suggesting. And if that's the case, then the guns might possibly be the Tumbler's.

  • June 20, 2007, 6:57 a.m. CST

    And Supe's...

    by DDeRosia82

    Somebody mentioned Superman's sexual abilities. The fact of the matter is that Superman is so super that he's practically impotent. Let me explain.</p><p> In the same way that his senses of smell, taste, sight, and hearing are super, so is his sense of touch. Although he has some "control" over this with regard to those parts of himself that are touched all the time, the smallest amount of pressure applied to any part of the rest of his body is, while not necessarily <i>painful</i>, exhilerating. Hence, although his super-stamina allows him to keep up any physical activity for a super-human amount of time, his super sense of touch gets in the way before it has a chance to show itself off. Incidentally, this is why Superman has never <i>ever</i> taken advantage of his being so super and become a sex god; the faintest brush of a body against him instantly reduces him to a non-sexual being, just as reaching sexual climax does for any other human, super or not.</p><p>Now, with regard to his super sperm. Yes, his sperm are, indeed, a thousand times stronger and more potent than any normal man's. However, because they are so super, only one is released per climax, as any more would be redundant.</P><P>In practice, what all of this means is that Superman is shooting microscopic sperm every time he becomes aroused.</P><P>All of the above was taken from the Science of Superman.

  • June 20, 2007, 7:06 a.m. CST

    I leave this TB and come back to find the last post

    by Bronx Cheer

    is about Super Sperm? Yikes.

  • June 20, 2007, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Why didn't they give him...

    by NightArrows

    a Bat-Segway?

  • June 20, 2007, 8:15 a.m. CST

    ***** Peter Jackson for JUSTICE LEAGUE!!!! *****

    by JDanielP

    Uh...that's all I've got. I commented on the suit the last go around.

  • June 20, 2007, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Seriously tho

    by StrokerX

    who would look at that and say.."cool!" i would just walk up to him and kick him over.

  • June 20, 2007, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Flabby Jackson for Teen Titans!!!!

    by ScamsAndFlams

    hey after our wildly successful posting-in-unrelated topics-to-get-a-major movie director-attached-to-our-pet project campaign is over, maybe we should start writing letters to random people out of the phone book. After that, we round it out with some carefully placed graffiti above various urinals across the country, and VOILA! We'll be older nerds.

  • June 20, 2007, 9:14 a.m. CST

    What this vehicle needs........

    by redfist

    is more cowbell

  • June 20, 2007, 9:14 a.m. CST

    What this vehicle needs........

    by redfist

    is more cowbell

  • June 20, 2007, 9:14 a.m. CST

    What this vehicle needs........

    by redfist

    is more cowbell

  • June 20, 2007, 9:15 a.m. CST

    wow I guess the post button did work after all

    by redfist

    fookin noob

  • June 20, 2007, 9:16 a.m. CST


    by UltimaRex

    Lol. BTW, I have The science of Superman and I'm pretty certain it doesn't mention that. New edition maybe? ;)

  • June 20, 2007, 9:18 a.m. CST

    since it seems to work now....I will continue

    by redfist

    I likes me the bat-pod ( I am sure that it is a piece of the thumbler. escape pod...hehehe get it. So anyway, I say the chick on the toady show climbing on it and I swear that was the only time that bitch has ever in her life looked sexy.

  • June 20, 2007, 9:19 a.m. CST

    when does this movie come out, next week

    by redfist

    cause us nerds are tearing these little crumbs from the table up for a flick that is still 1.5 years away

  • June 20, 2007, 9:21 a.m. CST

    is there a limit on posts in one sitting?

    by redfist

    Cause I am not sure if this account will be valid for long if there is.

  • June 20, 2007, 9:24 a.m. CST

    anyway, Harry

    by redfist

    I got a case of Mr. Pib that the people at FOX wanted you to have for the glowing review of Fantastic Four- Rise of chessy humor. I was thinkin that we could spilt it and watch Eli Roth flop around like a chicken with his head cut off, after we cut his head off,

  • June 20, 2007, 9:25 a.m. CST

    And Peter Jackson

    by redfist

    Couldn't direct any other matterial than what he has fanboyed over for 20 years, so send him all your comics if you want him to do JLA.

  • June 20, 2007, 9:50 a.m. CST

    However shitty the bike looks....

    by Stuntcock Mike

    The movie shall be good.

  • June 20, 2007, 9:52 a.m. CST


    by RINCON

    Is it just me or does the new suit look a little like Robocop?

  • June 20, 2007, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Halo has been around for 20 years???

    by UltimaRex

    I did not know that redfist. Which system was that on? Also, where are the original versions of The frighteners and Heavenly Creatures? And of course, I'm now rreeeaaaaalllllyyyy anxious to see the 1967 Bad taste. Plus, I don't think I will send Jackson any of my comic as I'm sure he has his own. Maybe you could send him your brain? Oh wait, YOU DON'T HAVE ONE.

  • June 20, 2007, 9:56 a.m. CST

    I get really shitty...

    by UltimaRex

    ...if someone bothers my comics. Just a FYI.

  • June 20, 2007, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Peter Jackson for JLA!

    by UltimaRex

    Peter Jackson for JLA!

  • June 20, 2007, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Ugh, Fox has Halo? That's bad news

    by Ricky Henderson

    I don't care about a PG-13 rating as much as a total disservice to the franchise. They're going to screw Halo up so badly it's not even funny.

  • June 20, 2007, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Ultima...Peter Jackson

    by redfist

    Has not done much in the way of orginal material in the last 10 years. and I think that Halo will see the light of day just about the time Halo 16 is out for the Xbox 1440 is out. If you like the guz so much why dont you kiss him.

  • June 20, 2007, 10:18 a.m. CST

    No nipples?


    No giant cock? No nipples? Batman can turn his head now? What?! Where's the dayglo neon? WTF?!

  • June 20, 2007, 10:21 a.m. CST

    ugh i hate you fox first you turn die hard into a pg13

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    movie called faint soft now your going to destroy halo. FUCK YOU!

  • June 20, 2007, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Sybian?? FUCK

    by Shigeru

    DUDE some of us are at work! Put a disclaimer on that shit!

  • June 20, 2007, 10:35 a.m. CST

    That rocks

    by isispop

    nuff said.

  • June 20, 2007, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Bat-pod ponderings

    by Automaton Overlord

    I agree with many of you that, at first glance, this motor-cycle looks impractical for anything besides going in a straight line but..looking at the design again, I think maybe either the entire body of it, or just the rider might lean into turns independant of the wheels, leaving their full foot and a half of rubber firmly planted on the road, where as a normal bike would be lucky to have an inch. This theory might be a stretch but if true, it justifies a few of the "quirks" in the design. For instance, the moters being inside the wheels eliminates the need for a chain or belt-- the rider would not have to bring the weight of the engine with him into a lean, making it faster to do so with less set-up time.-- I think the single pole connecting the front wheel as opposed to the traditional fork design supports this idea as does the lack of fenders.-- I also find the bisected middle section indicative of rotation. Take another look at it with this in mind. Any way if any of this is true, that thing would out corner any motor-cycle ever created. By the way those are NOT the front wheels of the tumbler!

  • June 20, 2007, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Were you staring at your bedside table...

    by Fish Tank

    when you said it looks like a Sybian? WHO would know what that is? Ugh.

  • June 20, 2007, 10:46 a.m. CST

    yes I know how to spell motor

    by Automaton Overlord

    , just exited is all

  • June 20, 2007, 10:50 a.m. CST

    You're missing the point redfist...

    by UltimaRex

    ...though with a name like that... But I digress. OK, I'll spell it out. Once. When you hear a movie you'll truly love is coming down the river. What's the first thing that pops into your melon? That's right: "Please don't fuck it up. Please don't fuck it up! PLEASE DO NOT FUCK THIS UP!!!" Now, since this started what has everyone and their pet dog said? "JLA is unfilmable." Much like everyone said about LOTR before Jackson pulled it off right? SO YOU'LL FORGIVE ME FOR WANTING A DIRECTOR WHO HAS MADE A "UNFILMABLE" MOVIE TO MAKE ANOTHER "UNFILMABLE" MOVIE WHICH I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN. Coco? If Uwe Boll had made a great LOTR I'd be saying... Well I don't even want to type that but I hope you now get my point but if you didn't here it comes again. I WANT A AMAZING JLA MOVIE! YOU WANT A AMAZING JLA MOVIE! WE ALL WANT A AMAZING JLA MOVIE! Seriously, when did anyone want a duff movie? Plus, on the subject of Jackson and decades old material. Just how long has JLA been around? Rrrriiiggght...

  • June 20, 2007, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Larry Clark for Teen Titans!

    by UltimaRex

    ScamsAndFlams, that's for you. Damn, I need to wind down a bit... Too much Bill Hicks...

  • June 20, 2007, 11:36 a.m. CST

    not crazy about any of this...

    by colonel_angus_2.0

    glad you won't see the costume in the movie cuz it will be in the dark. Keatons costume was the best...

  • June 20, 2007, 11:45 a.m. CST

    I'm a brit...

    by UltimaRex I has no idea who Ben Roethlisberger is. Looked him up, still chuckling. Kudos indeed BAT FASTARD.

  • June 20, 2007, 11:48 a.m. CST

    'had' not 'has'

    by UltimaRex

    Perhaps I should stick to what I know. Peter Jackson for JLA!

  • June 20, 2007, 11:53 a.m. CST

    I'm STILL waiting for a comic-accurate Batman movie

    by Boneyard

    This clearly will not be it. SIGH.

  • June 20, 2007, 11:55 a.m. CST

    JLA movie will suck...

    by SimpleSandwiches

    ...because they won't resolve the rights to use Superman and/or Batman by then. They'll use John Stewart or Guy Gardener for Green Lantern. Plus some other things that haven't been announced yet that will bug me somehow....

  • June 20, 2007, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Haven't read this talkback yet...

    by nonsensical

    but I do see some titles that say what I think too... Why are there guns on that bike? Batman doesn't use guns. I hope those are grapling cables or bean bag guns... or even better. Guns that shoot electro static bolts to knock out the villian.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Holmes talks like she's had a stroke.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Where's the tramp from Go we know and love. Oh yeah, I forgot, up in the alien nation.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:28 p.m. CST

    cookylamoo, I heard that was the original pitch for SR

    by Puddleglum

    Only, once JJ was brought in, he had to go and Felcity-Alias it up and stuff. Come to think of it, it might have been a better film as long as Spacey didn't yell "WRONG!!" when he thought he had Supes checkmated.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:44 p.m. CST


    by Err

    They're flamethrowers and grappling hooks and gas bomb shooters. They're not guns.

  • June 20, 2007, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Ok, a Batcycle, but will it have "Shields"???!

    by finky089

    I still really enjoy the original Burton Batman, but everytime Keaton whispers "Shields" and that metallic cocoon envelopes the Batmobile, I laugh a little. The effect was pretty good when I was 12 and first saw it in the theater, though.

  • June 20, 2007, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Merrick you filthy bastard you!

    by Deus Vult

    LOVED and I mean L-O-V-E-D the sybian reference. however, if it DOES have a sybian hidden in the seat I would like it if the new female love interest takes a trip on the batpod and accidentally discovers it during her joyride...joyride...get it?!? oh dear Lord I'm on fire!

  • June 20, 2007, 1:07 p.m. CST

    If you flip the bike picture over and zoom in

    by Johnno

    on the lightened portion of batmans chest... you'll see Venom reflected in the chain mail suit!!!!

  • June 20, 2007, 2:18 p.m. CST


    by whatyoufear

    so what you are saying is if he is wearing the original suit at the start of the movie, and for some unforeseen reason it gets destroyed, say, due to a major plot point concerning a vehicular crash, or (even worse) Joker acid.. the concept of Batman having to hurriedly put together not only a mode of efficiently reliable transportation but a functional new suit as well would SUCK?? WRROONNG!

  • June 20, 2007, 2:41 p.m. CST

    in defense of Schumacher...

    by lynxpro

    One really should see - if Warners ever made it available - the "Director's Cut" of *Batman Forever*. The test market version of the film was longer and superior to the finished studio cut. I know, I saw it. The whole beginning of the studio cut is totally screwed up and they got it out of sequence. The studio cut doesn't really explain that Bruce blamed himself for his parents' murders because he thought he was the one that demanded they go see *Zorro* when in fact it was his father that wanted to see the film that got them killed by a young Jack Nicholson looking Joe Chill. If they would just release Schumacher's actual cut with the finished effects and put Danny Elfman's score into the flick to substitute for that krap they eventually used on the studio cut and on *Batman & Robin*, it would be a decent flick. Certainly better than *Batman Returns* (which sucked) or *Batman & Robin* but still nowhere as good as *Batman Begins*.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Tom Welling > Brandon Routh...

    by lynxpro

    Felt like mentioning that.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Michael Rosenbaum Lex > Kevin Spacey Lex

    by lynxpro

    Common sense dictates...

  • June 20, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Erica Durance > Kate Bosworth

    by lynxpro

    Use your eyes, you know it to be true.

  • June 20, 2007, 2:47 p.m. CST

    I agree with lost.rules

    by lynxpro

    The original *Insomnia* (which is available through NetFlix) is better than Nolan's version, but only because it is grittier and braver. Nolan's version is more stylish though. It feels more cinematic whereas the original feels like something made for envelope-pushing cable television. Still, points for moodyness without the blues appearing at Red Rock.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:23 p.m. CST

    And Wicket jumps on his back and the thing crashes into

    by picardsucks

    A tree just as the cute Ewok grabs a vine and swings away and then lets out a Tarzan yell. Dazed from the impact but protected from his new chunky rubber Batstormtroopper The Darth Knight sets off on foot, sweating profusly from another even more doopey rubber suit. The End!!!!

  • June 20, 2007, 3:26 p.m. CST

    There's no way the bike survives the movie

    by Abominable Snowcone

    You know it's gonna end up in pieces

  • June 20, 2007, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Look closely and you'll see

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Bats clearly dented the roof of that police cruiser.<p> You're gonna pay for that, mister!

  • June 20, 2007, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Anyone seen my bat-penis?

    by Bash_Branigan

    I left it double-parked.

  • June 20, 2007, 3:45 p.m. CST


    by D_T

    I pulled up some pics of the Tumbler/Batmobile from Begins - the "Pod"/motorcycle looks exactly like one of the front wheel and suspension assemblies (the tire, the asymmetric front fork), and how it looks like a lever setup (that the Mobile used). I think this where and how it's stored (which might imply there are two? One per side?). ~D_T

  • June 20, 2007, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Complaining over the POSSIBILITY of tie-ins -- PATHETIC

    by jorson2

    Heaven forbid a movie based on a comic book appeal even remotely to children, who also have their parents buy them toys. Proof that this site's readers might be mostly socialists is this very reaction to a new Batman suit and the Bat-pod, the feeling of uneasiness over the possibility that (gasp) Warners might be licensing the design to toymakers. Can someone please explain to me why this kind of complaining has ANY merit whatsoever, especially a full year before the movie is released?

  • June 20, 2007, 4:09 p.m. CST

    My Batman was 100% West

    by Faust_8

    I didn't need latex like Keaton !!

  • June 20, 2007, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Good stuff right here!!

    by connor187

    Check this site out it has the first Dark Knight you a good look at the new costume. ignore the gray bits Iam sure that is the cloth/mesh material type stuff and iam sure it will be black in the movie. and also the first teaser poster for the new Hulk movie.....looks good.

  • June 20, 2007, 4:31 p.m. CST

    BRANDON ROUTH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tom welling

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell


  • June 20, 2007, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Spacey Lex>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rosenbaum Lex

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell


  • June 20, 2007, 4:33 p.m. CST

    in terms of hottness erica durance destroys bosworth

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    erica durance soooooooooo fuckinnnnnnnnnn fineeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

  • June 20, 2007, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Or even batmanonfilm...

    by connor187

    It has the picture of the new Bat man toy. New suit and on the link below to see the new Hulk poster.

  • June 20, 2007, 4:55 p.m. CST


    by connor187

    This town, to put it simply, does not require a figure of justice, it craves a silhouette of injustice , in order to survive.

  • June 20, 2007, 5:02 p.m. CST

    supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    by pjdon

    i don't think Lois should be that attractive.<p>She should always have a bit of a tom boy style to her.<p>She shouldn't have time to take too much care of herself.<p>Margaret Kidder was perfect for this. She could hardly even walk in heals and she smoked like a chimney.

  • June 20, 2007, 5:03 p.m. CST

    New Hulk poster looks cool

    by pjdon

  • June 20, 2007, 7:11 p.m. CST


    by Err

    It's true.

  • June 20, 2007, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Batpod not as bad as....

    by Logan_1973

    Aaron Eckhart. Where's Tommy Lee when you need him?

  • June 21, 2007, 1:11 a.m. CST

    The suit looks like Jim Lee's

    by Vincent Gecko

    concept sketches of what he felt Batman's armor would look like under the costume. At least that was my second impession of it. The first of course being 'What if the Guyver stole Batman's cape and cowl?'

  • June 21, 2007, 3:23 a.m. CST

    pjdon i wasnt talking about her perfromance

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    just mentioning how fuckin fine durance is lol. and personally, i couldnt stand kidder. she was just annoying, and she had a block head.

  • June 21, 2007, 4:49 a.m. CST

    The barrels on the battipod

    by Dingbatty

    The barrels on the battipod fire streams of bat guano, saving Bats from breaking his "no-guns" rule.

  • June 21, 2007, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Whoever said armor on tights was right

    by DDeRosia82

    ww ml

  • June 21, 2007, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Whoever guessed armor on tights was right

    by DDeRosia82

    ht tp :/ /ww tman-on-film.c om/TDK_batman_action-figure_firstlook_2007. h tml

  • June 21, 2007, 9:32 a.m. CST

    And with regard to Batgirl in the next film...

    by DDeRosia82

    Barbara made an appearance in BB. But she's, um, a bit young for taking up the mantel of the Bat... realism and all...

  • June 21, 2007, 11:02 a.m. CST

    *** GENUINE SPOILER!!!!***

    by Mr Chuff

    Anyone else seen the pix and footage on youtube of Scarecrow in the parking lot?

  • June 21, 2007, 1:36 p.m. CST

    oh, shite, the BatBra

    by aboriginal

  • June 22, 2007, 4:19 a.m. CST

    It's the Dark Knight Returns bike!

    by Lone Fox

    Yeah, I'm slow. I just noticed. Sweet.

  • June 24, 2007, 12:10 a.m. CST

    Meredith, you naughty, naughty girl

    by Cold Winter Wind

    I sat thru this 'streaming' (I'm on dialup) vid because I still remember hearing Ms. Viera say, when she was on The View, "I NEVER (emphasis hers) wear panties." Looked like somebody off-camera told her to sit up when they saw that she was working on a major PODgasm.

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