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An INDY 4 Rumor That’s Not Really A Rumor...
Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.
... since I can verify that this sequence exists. Or at least, it has at a prior point in this film’s development. It sounds to me like they’ve taken several different incarnations of the INDY 4 script and cobbled them all together to come up with the version we’ll see in theaters next summer. I know I’ve been pessimistic about this one in the past, but there have been drafts and ideas and scenes that have been fairly provocative over the long tortured history of development the film’s been through. I got this e-mail in, and it seems to confirm that there will be a sequence early in the movie that takes place on a site in the desert that both Jeb Stuart and Frank Darabont are rumored to have included in their takes on the story.
And, no, I’m not talking about Area 51. All I’ll say is that if this is the sequence I think it is, it starts the story off with a bang.
A really... big... bang...
I am working on a Warner Bros film right now. [Someone else on the film] is from New Mexico. I said to him "hey they are filming Indy 4 there right?" He said, "My friend is [working on] the film and they are prepping the New Mexico site to be a WWII atomic test site, like in the old videos you would see in school"
I thought I would pass this on!!!
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Again?
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Solid reporting, Ain't it Cool. Although I'll say, I'd love it if this turned out to be true.
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f42 sucks
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Duck & Cover?
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could it be?
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A shot of Cate Blanchett as a Russian villain. That's good stuff.
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AWSOME, INDIANA JONES GETS DOSED WITH NUCLEAR GAMMA RADIATION AND BECOMES THE INCREDIBE ARCHEOLOGIST!
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doesn't bode well for the film if this is the first news we get...
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Why is Indy dealing in 1945? Who's got the bomb? This is getting into James Bond Cold War territory. What's the artifact he's chasing? It better not be Japanese.
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Why'd it have to be Aliens..
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"Aww, that's just my pet nuke, Fat Boy!"
"I hate nukes, I hate 'em!!"
"Show a little backbone, will ya?" -
I hate second guessing myself.
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I understand Sir Frank Darabont's script had an alien conspiracy at the heart of his script, but George Lucas rejected his effort (even though everyone in the production - Speilberg, Ford included - loved it). If it turns out that Lucas (who rewrote the script) has lifted Darabont's ideas, maybe Darabont should sue his ass. Personally, I'd love to see 1950's style Roswell consiprasies and funky retro UFO's; abductions and that kind of stuff. We shall see, but if Lucas fucks this up, he'll have to go into hiding 'cos they'll be a geek fatwah placed on his bearded head.
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so I wouldn't doubt it if he fucked this up... kinda makes me sad...
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Thanj you! Thank you! Tip your waitress.
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Indy and Shortround ( Stephen Chow ) end up in Japan investigating the Yonaguni monument ( Atlantis ) just before America drops the bomb on Hiroshima.
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... because George Lucas didn't get enough childhood rape action yet.
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I don't see the connection.
Is Indy looking for ancient Pueblo bowls or something? -
I was hugely disappointed with Harry's Fantastic Four 2 film review, so would welcome Mori's own take on this movie.
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GODAMN YOU, GEORGE LUCAS! I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO FUCK THIS UP. YOU RUINED STAR WARS, BUT THAT WASN'T ENOUGH FOR YOU. WAS IT? IF RUIN THIS FRANCHISE, I WILL KILL YOU WITH MY BARE HANDS. WITH MY BARE HANDS, GEORGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What happened to the Bruce Willis Q&A??
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Jun 16, 2007 8:45:18 AM CDT
Mori...please, please, please, please, please, please..
by atticus finch
Is there any possible way on this earth to read the Darabont script? Come on, help a fellow Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell fan out!
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...the talkbackers are jackasses.
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nice.
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Where he goooo?
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That's all I got. Sorry.
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heh.
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Let's see if the government and U.S. military give Spielberg the shaft like they did with the ID4 production. "Aliens? Roswell? You want the Air Force to help? Fuck off Emmerich & Devlin! We won't help you."
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Hey check out my atomic bomb student film. The story makes no sense but it has nuclear bombs, hazmat suits and ww2 soldiers! And it was shot on super 8, so you know its quality.
http://tinyurl.com/3dklru
The purpose: Spielberg obviously stole this idea from me. I mean, obviously, right? -
You were all thinking it.
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It's obviously gonna be good. Top Men are working on it..... Top. Men.
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"Heyyyyyyyyy, Indy!" They perform the classic "Who's on coke?" routine with "guest star" Michael Bay. Actually, I'm really sorry that Sean Connery passed on this one.
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June 18 is Monday!!!!!!!! Yipeee!!!!!!!!
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what happen with the LOST talkback?
i heard or better say read that the administrators of AICN were mad because some people were hijacking other talkbacks for the sake of LOST. Is it true? No lost talkback anymore? -
As everyone knows, the three worst words went from "You have cancer" to "George Lucas wrote". Do we need to asterisk "George Lucas re-wrote" or does 'cancer' get bumped to 3rd place?
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then I read the blurb underneath and it was so underwhelming. hermmm.
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It's going to serve as a sort of pre-credits sequence (like the Native chase/snake plane escape, Shanghai nightclub, River Phoenix stuff), introducing us to the idea that Indy has left the stuffy ole 30's and 40s and is now firmly in the Nuclear Age. Like the examples before, it will set the tone rather than be a part of the actual plot.
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I have to say this could already be a preview of the suckage to come. Someone above noted that this sequence might reflect the historical point of the military testing the bomb before dropping it on Hiroshima. And then meanwhile you'd have Indy off in Japan looking for Atlantis or whatever and that's the ticking clock in the background.If that was the case, here's a few thoughts why INDY 4 could quickly become groan inducing (as if we needed to come up with more reasons why this will stink). But feel free to debate away just the same...First of all, the Hiroshima bomb was dropped on August 6, 1945. So if INDY 4 is going to be set in that closing period of WWII and somehow involve that incident as part of the story, the timeline is glaringly fucked up. LAST CRUSADE took place in 1938 and Ford was 47 when they filmed it. So what are you telling me, that only 7 years have passed onscreen yet somehow Ford aged a very obvious TWENTY or so? My one hope was that they were going to acknowledge Ford's age here and not try to convince us he's waaaaay younger than he clearly is at this point. For fuck's sake, Ford is 66 now. The man is pushing 70 (which is why we're gonna be stuck with Shia doing most of the action, you just wait for that too.).One of the earlier drafts -- I think it was Chris Columbus' -- explained the age factor by saying Indy got involved with a mystical relic on an adventure that went bad, and the relic literally sucked Indy's "life force" from him and prematurely aged him -- hence the discrepancy with Ford's actual appearance. Maybe they're going with that idea still. It sounds like a typical dumbass Lucas created concept, so given the long history of fights that Lucas has had with the writers over INDY 4, I'm sure George dug in his heels and said "We're using my idea and that's THAT!"And if they are using the Hiroshima bombing as part of the story, I hope they just use it as ONLY a backdrop story point. Let's be honest here: in recent years Spielberg in partcular has worn his politics on his sleeve, though Lucas has really been no better. So I have to say if they work in some fucked up political statement that the U.S. was wrong to drop the bomb into the film, I'll say "Fuck you" and avoid this altogether. Hell, I'm still betting on this to be a turd of the highest magnitude -- I'm already predicting THIS will be the movie that will make the fans hate Lucas to an upteenth degree, even moreso than the prequels and convince them once and for all how much he's lost it -- so the idea of Steven and George thumbing their noses at the audience and somehow putting their politics into this really wouldn't surprise me at this point either.
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It doesn't have to be Hiroshima per se -- these goons could just be going for a more general notion of "The U.S. military was wrong to create nukes in the first place and they're just bad, bad, bad." Which would be just as groan inducing.Of course maybe they'll surprise me and this will NOT be set in the closing period of WWII and they'll do something funky like showing a test bomb going off that was created using alien technology which was reverse engineered from the Roswell UFO's engine system or something. At which point you'd get some cool special effects moment of an "alien nuke" being tested and the kind of explosion that would set off.p>Ahh, who knows. To be honest, I really wish they weren't even making this. Given their cumulative track records of late, I really don't have much faith in Lucas or Ford -- and even Speilberg has become really hit or miss in his older age.Speaking of which doesn't ANYONE have ANY specific info on the aborted Darabont script that was supposedly so great? Mori, where's an article on THAT?
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What the hell are you even going on about, buddy? Multi-post rants based on information you've read too far into are a terrible waste of your time.
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Ok the Paramount mountain logo dissolves into a mountain in Nevada, John Williams mystical strings are heard, the mountain evaporates and the camera pans back and we see a huge mushroom cloud.
Ok then what? Where's Indy, in some desert jeep (in radioactive land) being chased by US government Area 51 goons? I don't get it - the opening has to be mystical, the occult must be involved, if its devoid of the occult or a treasure piece then it turns into a James Bond pre credit teaser. I wonder how this pans out. -
Hmmm...I goes no Middle East scenes for Salah.
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Jun 16, 2007 3:03:34 PM CDT
Indy choses Hydrogen over Atomic weapons, HERE'S WHY...
by kentucky colonel
more bang for the buck. Nothing vaporizes a Pacific Rim island like a hydrogen bomb!
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Jun 16, 2007 3:06:07 PM CDT
Dear Lord in heavens, this sounds frighteningly like...
by salvatoregravano
...that wretched script "Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men from Mars"...
I'm too tired to upload the full screenplay (and trust me if you haven't read it - you should be happy you haven't) but a synopsis is e.g. here: indyfan.com/articles/saucer.html -
Anyone who played the game ``Fate of Atlantis'' knows that the Atlanteans were highly advanced civilization, probably capable of atomic inventions. So my guess is that the supposed atomic tests in Indy movie are the result of Nazis founding an information about the atomic power in Atlantis.
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Lets face it, the Nazis are an easy target. But regardless of your beliefs, a statement on the US' bombing of Japan will grate. I don't need that going into an Indy movie, lets hope they don't go there.
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In case you guys forgot, only Attack of the Clones is stinks worse then Temple of Doom in the world of Lucasfilm. Not that I don't enjoy, Temple of Doom, but come on. How would you feel about that movie if it hadn't come out when you were a child? They'd have to put some real effort into topping the camp in that movie.
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There were many bomb tests after WW2 duh, read your history books!
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indy must stop him from obtaining a bomb
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Hiroshima should nnever happen. Indy 4!!! 2008.
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Hiroshima should nnever happen. Indy 4!!! 2008.
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Hiroshima should nnever happen. Indy 4!!! 2008.
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That's slightly creepy.
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Norm3, good point. It could be well after the WWII tests. We'll just have to wait and see.That said, given how notoriously terrible Hollywood is at keeping secrets, I still can't believe the Darabont script never leaked at all or that no one has a full plot synopsis for it. I just think Darabont is a class act, and the fact that Speilberg declared it the absolute BEST Indy script he'd ever read since the original...and that Lucas then just turned around and killed it because he thought it wasn't good...makes it the Holy Grail of scripts to get your hands on to read. Come on, SOMEONE must know more about it!
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Jones rocks tha ganj with P Funk and saves the world from certain doom.....very lethargically.
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Good job on the film. It was better than most things on the Sci Fi Channel. Good luck, on future projects.
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I shoot my wad all over Marion's balding head? Damn Nuclear testing fall-out side effects!
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I still have major reservations about these guys getting Indy 4 right. On the flip side, I'd love it if Warner Bros. got off their ass and finally made the big budget THEM! remake that was on the drawing boards a few years back (at the time Joe Johnston was slated to direct).The army fighting big fucking ants, done up with a $100 million plus budget and modern effects? Get Michael Bay on that sucker right NOW!
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"Batman Triumphant" is one that I'd really like to be leaked one day. It seems to have the potential of being the best Batman movie next to Burton's one and true original.
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The Carlsbad Caverns are within a couple hours drive of the nuclear testing grounds in south-eastern New Mexico. Something could be hidden down there...or there's also Chaco Canyon and numerous other archaeological sites related to early Native American civilizations in NM.
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as a rogue chinese scientist recruited by the americans to build the first atomic bomb!
"uh-oh doctah jones i tink its gonna blow!" -
...that involved finding the Lost City of Atlantis? That was the plot that I thought was being made.
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for the others but he had to convince them that it would work... so how is a roswell UFO "connected?" Also, George said the movie had a "supernatural tone" which certainly doesn't jibe with sci-fi alien... I smell bullshit
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Atomic site in the desert? does that mean we can expect to see giant ants fighting Indy?
Now there is a cross over to think about, bitches. -
verses THEM!
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I don't like you...
At all.
But today your posts have made me laugh. A lot.
You bastard!
Oh, and I don't care about this movie. Goodbye! -
Dressed as the Orkin man, with short round in a one on one in battle to the death with the Queen Winged Ant. MAN IN SUITE!
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I wonder how dead John Candy would review this movie on the Farm-Film Report.
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I hate these guys.
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It would be cool to have Indy battling giant ants or scorpions or some other sort of insect that inhabits the desert there, in the desert that resulted from the atomic testings.
Heck, it would be cool if that part of the movie took place in 1954 or a little after & they show or say a referrance to atomic testing in the area Gojira(Godzilla) is said to come from.
Then i take it the movie moves into the early 1960's.
Wish Sean Connery would reconsider & come back onto the movie.
Because it's in the 1960's it's like a tribute to the films Connery did then.
Connery was there, knows the news & the vibe that was happening then, having him on the set recreating that vibe would rub off on everyone....
Is Sean just becomea an old ouffy fart & let the Plaster on the ceiling below him finally set or will he still have that '60's beach party spirit left in him? Whom knows? -
We're calling the movie INDIANA JONES AND THE ADVENTURES OF THE LOOSE DENTURES.
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In this installment Indy discovers a flying super sub code named Atragon based on UFO technology uncovered at area 51 & developed by japan's top scientists.
Meanwhile, Indy's son is in japan & unknowningly is dating Captian Jinguji's daughter, whom also does not know the whereabouts of Capt. Jinguji.
The Soviets get wind of this & want the atragon plans themselves.... -
haha
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well the new mexico filming thing seems true. I just heard from someone today that they have a friend working on the set there. Then i got home to read this.
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Please. Now.
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Ah, I can see it now...
Short Round: Doctah Jones! Doctah Jones! Dis wall not pushed in, it pulled out! -
...and Love the Bomb.
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Jun 17, 2007 7:54:53 AM CDT
i swear i posted the name of it billions of times
by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell
why havent you guys said something about that yet?
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Then Hulk out on the Nazis.
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short round saw him do it.
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Filled with glowing dribble.
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Indy has always had big opening action sequences
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Indiana's dad, but it's not really his dad, it just took the shape of Sean Connery so that it could get more Earth pootang.
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Raiders of The Lost Saucer
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My guess? It will be a hidden alien spaceship artifact! Then it's downhill from there after that apt opening scene...
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Unless of course they uncover Megatron...
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No reason why they can't have a big scene at the start to get us interested... and then have scenes that get even bigger and bigger until the climax is one huge rolling ball of Katamari!
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look connery only agreed to do indy4 on one condition.... that it was actually zardoz 2 co-starring harrison ford. look dont you see... the aliens, the floating heads, the multiple spandex sightings. connery's back and this time he's bringing along his son!
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is what this could and will likely lead to. Hopefully Spielberg is doing it because he wants to tell a cool new Indy story and not just put something out there to appease the fans. That results in half assedness always.
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flag on the moon, how did it get there
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Seriously, never in a million years did I think I would rather see a Michael Bay film than a Die Hard sequel, but I do. I don't give a shit about Die Hard 4, and even though I dislike Bay's style, know nothing about the Transformers cartoon, I really want to see that movie and have no interest in Die Hard 4.So Michael Bay, go and make an Astro Boy film and open it oposite Indy 4 and I'm pretty sure I'll go see that too with no interest in Indy 4. I'm going mental.
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NM is the new hotspot for films because of all the breaks the give films and all the cool locations! Give NM some love ya'll
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co starring Ben Gay and the up and coming new female rap artist Icy Hot..Produced by George Mucas..
Please hurry up and get this movie in the can before we all grow old waiting for it...Now I have to take my nap.. -
My strategy of anticipation: Bad news is good news, as it doesn't escalate my already over the top feelings for this film even more. The most important thing, though, for me, is that this film earns its right to exist by bringing new and interesting nuances to Jones' character. I mean...who has he become in 1958? And maybe Ford will learn to pronounce it nuclear (instead of nucelar)at this occasion.
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...that the film indeed features atomic monsters, Godzilla being the main one. At the end he twirls the Tokyo Radio Tower menacingly and then Harrison Ford looks at him and then just laconically pulls the bomb-bay door lever.
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Well, as big of an Indy fan that I am, I have had doubts about this project from the getgo. From a creative standpoint, I think it's a waste of time for Spielberg and Lucas, both of whom should be working on new ideas instead of rehashing old ones. That being said, I do think there's a chance this could be the best Indy film since "Raiders." They have an excellent cast and the age factor adds a new dimension to Indy's character. It also moves the series out of the 1930s and into a different time period. So despite my reservations, I am willing to give this a chance. When is first call, 6 am? Have fun, guys.
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How have you guys not heard about this yet?
http://www.britfilms.tv/index.php?id=2656
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Whats wrong with the fanboys and geeks nowadays? they all creaming over TRANSFORMERS??!
Nobody is looking forward to a good o0ld fashioned RAIDERS yarn?! -
I think most of us may be apprehensive about this. Where was this movie 15 years ago? I do have to admit that the people they have lined up for this is pretty damn good. I sincerely hope I am wrong about this and we do in fact get another Raiders...
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but bring speilberg on for a 20-questions session anyways
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No really, Splash was sweet...
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I mean it. The Da Vinci Code was sweet...
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M. Night Shyamalan?
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This will be Lucas' homage to the Godzilla movies he loved in his childhood. His kids are designing the monsters right now, and Lucas himself is going to step into one of the suits!!! You read it here first!
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