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BABYLON 5's JMS Wrangled To Script SILVER SURFER Spin-Off Movie!?!? Seems So!!

Published at: June 14, 2007, 8:53 p.m. CST by merrick

Merrick here...
20th Century Fox is soooooo certain FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER will be a hit that that plans for a SILVER SURFER spin-off movie are already afoot. An article in yesterday's LA Times says this:
Feeling bullish on the eve of the release of its "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer," Fox has already put a feature spin-off into development that will star the enigmatic Surfer, with J. Michael Straczynski currently crafting the screenplay.
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Well, perhaps the studio has heard the negative static, since it apparently hopes to spin the new Surfer franchise in a darker direction to attract the slightly older demographic of its X-Men films.
Straczynski is (probably) best known as the overlord of the BABYLON 5 universe. A new, straight to DVD B5 production comes out this Summer (HERE's a trailer. Select Main Menu, then the B5 Lost Tales window). He's also created comic books like MIDNIGHT NATION and RISING STARS, as well as writing for comic franchises like SPIDER-MAN, SILVER SURFER, FANTASTIC FOUR, and THOR. Straczynski (aka "JMS") was recently announced as a the scripter of WORLD WAR Z, THEY MARCHED INTO SUNLIGHT (a Viet Nam protest-themed film...is this still being handled by Paul Greengrass?), and last year sold THE CHANGELING (originally a Ron Howard project, now under the reins of Clint Eastwood). And, somewhere along the line, JMS has committed to further BABYLON 5 projects - assuming this Summer's DVD fares well in the marketplace.

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  • June 14, 2007, 2:25 p.m. CST

    FF4:RotSS will rule the summer by finishing FIRST

    by chrth

    <nt>

  • June 14, 2007, 2:26 p.m. CST

    first

    by 1crazyguy

    I hope, I read the article

  • June 14, 2007, 2:27 p.m. CST

    darn

    by 1crazyguy

    Well, I was close. FF4 will not be FIRST, Maybe 3rd

  • June 14, 2007, 2:28 p.m. CST

    This could be insanely good...

    by MC Vamp

    If this takes the Surfer into space and the hell away from Earth. How about the Surfer getting into the middle of a 3-way war between the Sh'iar, Skrulls, and Kree with Mar-Vell, Super-Skrull, and the Sh'iar Imperial Guard involved. (Yeah right, like that would ever happen. It would cost 500 million dollars to depict...)

  • June 14, 2007, 2:28 p.m. CST

    I think they will still make the movie, even if FF2...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...fails at the Box Office. There is too much hype around that character.

  • June 14, 2007, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Garabaldi as the new Silver Surfer

    by zillabeast

    Garabaldi as anything, really.

  • June 14, 2007, 2:31 p.m. CST

    nice one

    by mrbong

    i am not 100% sure what a Babylon 5 is, but as this project is unlikely to feature Jack Black, i approve.

  • June 14, 2007, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Maybe they're pulling an "Incredible Hulk"

    by Gozu

    They already know its shit so why waste time with the "reboot?"

  • June 14, 2007, 2:33 p.m. CST

    oh hang on

    by mrbong

    were we not going to be treated to a Catwoman spin-off after the "success" of Batman Returns? no Michelle Pfffieeffffeerr, but it got made with Halle Berry, who in turn was supposed to be in a "Jinx" spin off after Die Another Day was going to be such a huge hit? talk about Six Degrees Of Comic Heaven.....

  • June 14, 2007, 2:35 p.m. CST

    No Fantastic Whore: Rise of the Silver Slurper joke?

    by Robots In Das Guys

    And look at this.... http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070614/film_nm/projectionist_dc SAVE MEMFLIX!!!

  • June 14, 2007, 2:40 p.m. CST

    "20th Century Fox is soooooo certain"

    by SPACEHUNTER3-D

    20th Century Fox is soooooo certain FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER will be a hit that that plans for a SILVER SURFER spin-off movie are already afoot. Thankfully aicn wil do all in its power 2 ensure that doesnt happen

  • June 14, 2007, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Methinks...

    by BillyPilgrim

    Its counting silver chickens before they are hatched. Thats nothing to yolk about.

  • June 14, 2007, 2:43 p.m. CST

    SS doesn't die?? Well thanks for ruining FF2 for me!!!

    by TurdFerguson44

    Dicks...

  • June 14, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Memflix is a plant!

    by bentmywookie

    unless he gives Transformers a bad review.

  • June 14, 2007, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Everybody stop. This will never see the light of day

    by slone13

    <p>Remember the Jinx movie that was supposed to be a spin off of Bond? And what about Wolverine? And Magneto? All bullshit.<p/> <p>Good day.<p/>

  • June 14, 2007, 2:53 p.m. CST

    He's also been writing

    by decypher44

    He's also been writing Silver Surfer: Requiem

  • June 14, 2007, 2:56 p.m. CST

    So now even Yahoo talks about Memflix?

    by DerLanghaarige

    Woo hoo! Extra hoo!<br> Getting fired is the best thing that could happen to him! Now he has publicity and stuff! He gets help from everywhere! I lost my job because I called my boss a few hours too late, after I had an accident on my way to work and spent a week in hospital. Where is my Yahoo news article? Where are my job offers?

  • June 14, 2007, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Memflix Lives!!!

    by mr dark

    Didn't want to use the same joke twice.... but the big news is Memflix story now not only on CNN but TMZ, Hollywood reporter, etc. etc. I knew this would blow up in FOX's face....The AICN denizens are strong...Long Live Memflix

  • June 14, 2007, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Yes DerLanghaarige

    by Robots In Das Guys

    Memflix is getting his 15 seconds of fame. After that whore gets done telling his story to anyone who'll listen he'll probably get some kind of job....As a man slut. But do you see the part where he says he wants to become a "professional reviewer" HE'S TALKING TO YOU HARRY KNOWLES!!!!! Oh and save Memflix.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Just like Venom to spidey 3

    by Varakor

    People will flock to FF2 just to watch the Surfer. It's too bad they messed up Galactus (what the hell, a tornado????) They should have made him a ship. Ah well I am one of the few that enjoyed the first FF and I'll be standing in line for the second.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Silver Surfer, Like Panthro, is Black

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    As a such, the SS film should focus on the master-slave relationship as detailed by the German philosopher Hegel, leading to the breaking of the shackles of convention.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:09 p.m. CST

    20th Century Fox is sooooooooo stupid.

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    What a bunch of moronic PG-13 shitbags.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Last I Checked...

    by _Maltheus_

    This Silver Surfer movie isn't even open for reviews, which means it's sucky, even for a bad movie. Why would they continue this crap? Seriously, who's connected to whom, I've love to understand it. Even the first FF looked so bad that I don't know anyone who even bothered to see it. And as much as I loved B5, JMS is a story writer, not a script writer. His dialog is only a small step above Lucas'. Having him as a producer or story consultant is a great idea however. But if he's to go anywhere, it should be to Lost. That's the Holllywood property that can most benefit from his expertise right now.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Could it be

    by Robots In Das Guys

    That the suspicious time for this announcement (1 fucking day before the movie opens) is more of Fox's PR bullshit, as to "assure" us the Surfer actually LIVES, instead of dying to save the Earth from Galactus? (And how the fuck could he do that anyway? It's freaking Galactus.)

  • June 14, 2007, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Memflix on imdb

    by everstranger

    Memflix is on IMDB news... we all knew this whole thing was to get publicity. Smart move !!!

  • June 14, 2007, 3:19 p.m. CST

    JMS is she sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet!!!

    by thepurplelantern

    Memflix probably is too, if, you know, memflix wasn't a plant. Some will come to save us, Memflix will come to harm us.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:21 p.m. CST

    For the "older" FF-fans...

    by C00L DUD3

    I hear this one is supposed to be a bit darker/harder...and I say: GOOD!!! They shoulda just put this one out tomorrow, instead...

  • June 14, 2007, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Isn't there a World War Z film he's supposed to be ...

    by Shan

    ... writing at the moment

  • June 14, 2007, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Slightly Darker? FF is shrouded in the darkness of

    by Darkcityuk

    corporate watering down of cherrished characters and storylines.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Die Hard 4, worst.marketing.ever

    by everstranger

    Check out allocine.com (biggest French movie site), there's a banner for Die Hard - rate me PG13 mo...- 4 on the main page. The scars on Bruce's face go from one side of his face to another on the 2 pictures... Hollywood, you're getting screwed by P2P AND advertising agencies. Wake up !

  • June 14, 2007, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Memflix/Aint It Cool made CNN today...woo

    by bgart13

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/14/film.projectionist.reut/index.html

  • June 14, 2007, 3:39 p.m. CST

    memflix+ the ONLY silver surfer series you'll need

    by brassai2003

    See, the whole Memflix thing is just giving fox more free advertisment for the film. Check it, an old SS series from the 90s animated just like a Kirby comic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZstpOjHDOM&mode=related&search= start at the first ep and work our way through. Addictive.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Doesn't anybody know how...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    ...to use the TinyUrl tool? It's right there in the talkback box; and it's very easy to use. That way your url's won't have all of those spaces that keep them from working.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:44 p.m. CST

    yep

    by brassai2003

    http://tinyurl.com/2rjspd there you is!

  • June 14, 2007, 3:48 p.m. CST

    (taps fingertips together)... excellent...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    now to the cut & paste...

  • June 14, 2007, 3:48 p.m. CST

    FF: 35% Fresh on rottentomatoes

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    fucking fox plants with their BS positive reviews. BOYCOTT!!!!!

  • June 14, 2007, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Origin movie? Norrin Radd? Shalla-Bal etc?

    by Det. John Kimble

    And lots and lots of weighty existential scenes of the SS cruising the spaceways lost in his own headspace. Every admission comes with a tab of acid.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:50 p.m. CST

    So he's based in Memphis, and calls himself Memflix

    by Batutta

    Way to cover your tracks there buddy. Well, at least we can trust his review now. I knew it was going to suck.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Positive Review

    by brassai2003

    does not=plant. Guess Empire magazine is actually a Fox-owned greenhouse

  • June 14, 2007, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Always thought SS

    by liljuniorbrown

    Was kind of a pussy comic. I mean he surfed around from place to place feeling sorry for himself because he can't go back to his home planet and he has to feed Galacticus......Waaaaa Boo Hooo I got the power cosmic and I surf. I just wish he would have done more bad ass stuff but thats not really the point. I think he's like the stoner icon of comics. The Greatful Dead of Marvel.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:56 p.m. CST

    liljuniorbrown

    by brassai2003

    ya, yer right. As a plant for Marvel, SS was created to cash in on the hippie/surfer/peacenik era of comics.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Actually MrMonkey

    by Robots In Das Guys

    King Kong (2005) was probably the first one. That movie is great.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Memflix was right. Reviewers are saying the same thing

    by SkeletonParty

    They are saying the only thing good about FF:2 is the short running time. Now we know the Roy Stalin (Story In LA) review was a plant. <p>Memflix Rules! <p>Where is Harry's review of FF:2?

  • June 14, 2007, 4 p.m. CST

    Memflix has chosen HD-DVD, here's why...

    by bentmywookie

    ... 'cause the man is blacklisted from employment in theaters all across the mid-south. Stand tall, talkback hero!

  • June 14, 2007, 4:11 p.m. CST

    IAmMrMonkey!

    by Zeframillen

    CGI main characters: Shrek 1, 2, 3, Toy Story 1, 2, Over the Hedge, etc, etc, etc

  • June 14, 2007, 4:13 p.m. CST

    JMS is writing this? This will never get made.

    by spider-ham

    Seriously, JMS gets attached to movies that never get made. He seems more sucessful at tv shows.

  • June 14, 2007, 4:20 p.m. CST

    MEMFLIX makes the news! http://tinyurl.com/ytxakm

    by Mace Tofu

    HARRY & MEMFLIX in the news! http://tinyurl.com/ytxakm

  • June 14, 2007, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Memflix a beacon of hope in the dark wasteland

    by mr dark

    You can take it to the bank Memflix calls em as he sees em.. he has a huge sack to stand tall during this hit job by FOX... Memflix you are destined for greater things my boy...May the POWER COSMIC be with you..always

  • June 14, 2007, 4:23 p.m. CST

    After reading the post here I guess you knew : (

    by Mace Tofu

    about the TV news but hey it was still cool to see lol.

  • June 14, 2007, 4:26 p.m. CST

    If this gets any bigger the man WILL need an agent

    by mr dark

    Go MEMFLIX you can do it!!

  • June 14, 2007, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Well thanks for ruining FF2 for me!!!

    by BannedOnTheRun

    Tim Story, not AICN.

  • June 14, 2007, 4:29 p.m. CST

    this is crazy shit

    by El Borak

    i always doubted that film companies actually scanned these sites but holy shit! memflix's negative review then a questionable "plant" review and then memflix gets fired. "fuck you film companies! come try to get me fired and i'll rape your grandma all wet and sloppy-like!"

  • June 14, 2007, 4:30 p.m. CST

    MEMFLIX has LENO or LETTERMAN called yet?

    by mr dark

    I've got a feeling you won't hear from O'Reily but damn I wish he worked for another network he'd be all over this thing...

  • June 14, 2007, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Too Surfery...

    by Alfred_Packer

    ..but I looked over and Rupert Murdoch was laughing all the way to the bank, so I guess it's OK.

  • June 14, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Kai_Mah'gra

    by mr dark

    I totally support your right to say what you just did and Iam sure Memflix would feel the same way.. On the other hand others may not and even go so far as to quite you down one day.. On that day please remember MEMFLIX...He fought the good fight for all not just his $7.00 an hour job...

  • June 14, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    "the older fans of the X-men"

    by modlight

    some fans of X3 almost had their learners permits.

  • June 14, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    JMS + solo Silver Surfer story

    by palewook

    = my $10 at the movie.

  • June 14, 2007, 4:48 p.m. CST

    REMEMBER THE MEMFLIX

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    If this movie can open lower than FF1 than Memflix will not have died in vain. For all you people saying this is free publicity for Fox, you could not be more wrong. This bad bad bad publicity. Please open poorly. I have not wanted a movie to flop miore in my entire life...besides the pg13 Alien vs predator...

  • June 14, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    29% on Rotten Tomatoes and Sinking Fast!

    by Johnny Storm

    Time to change my talkback name...

  • June 14, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    The Fantastic Four movies

    by kwisatzhaderach

    symptomatic of the fall of western civilisation

  • June 14, 2007, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Mr Dark

    by Dominic-Vobiscum

    Memflix is not Jesus. Chill with the hero worship.

  • June 14, 2007, 4:59 p.m. CST

    And featuring Hulk Hogan as the Silver Surfer

    by solarangel

    "Everything you know is at an end...BROTHER!!!"

  • June 14, 2007, 5:02 p.m. CST

    I'm sorry Dominic-Vobiscum

    by mr dark

    I do get a little carried away when someone puts their balls on the line to insure peole like you the right to free speech..Memflix Lives...

  • June 14, 2007, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Galactus' Heralds are chest bumping in space

    by Heckles

    JMS sucks rope. B5 is a joke. DS9 owns its ass.

  • June 14, 2007, 5:04 p.m. CST

    The Changeling

    by The Real MiraJeff

    The script has been highly touted around town so I gave it a read. Not as good as I was expecting. I could see Clint doing something cool with it, especially if Angelina stays attached to the lead, but I kept expecting it to get supernatural and it never did. It felt like a long, drawn-out episode of Law and Order: SVU. I think there's definitely a good story there and I like the idea of Clint making a period piece, but the script was definitely lacking in the thrills and chills department, and I didn't feel the lead character's grief over missing a child. Maybe my expectations were too high since the script is considered one of the best not-yet-produced scripts around town, but it didn't feel Clint-worthy to me. I'll hope for the best though.

  • June 14, 2007, 5:06 p.m. CST

    why couldn't they get JMS to do FF?

    by oisin5199

    Since he's actually worked on the comic. With all the crossover now between tv screenwriting and comics, it just makes sense that they would actually get writers from the comic actually involved in the movie. But outside of Frank Miller, this doesn't seem to be happening? Why the heck not? I'm sure Brian K. Vaughan would do some great work on a comic to film script, and I'd still love to see Joss' X3, or reboot with the Astonishing cast. Now I'm talking writing, not directing, just to be clear.

  • June 14, 2007, 5:08 p.m. CST

    wow, the old classics are out today

    by oisin5199

    first the sexiest tomboy beanpole thing, now the Hulk 'brother' Hogan thing (I thought Lost's Desmond took that over). Maybe AICN has a time machine.

  • June 14, 2007, 5:22 p.m. CST

    CNN and the "denizens" of AICN

    by WONKABAR

    "A number of Ain't It Cool readers have rallied to Morrison's cause, some even offering him jobs like a cameraman gig in Mexico." Wow, that means some poor bastard at CNN actually had sit and read through all of our shitty posts! IPAMPILASH!

  • June 14, 2007, 5:27 p.m. CST

    FF:ROTSS will be very nice

    by Napoleon Park

    http://tinyurl.com/3y4d9k<p> And shouldn't Memflix have his own article and talkback here by now? Not that it's a free speech issue or anything. But it's an AICN story. <p> Actually, I don't hate Sony. My Sony VCR is offline because I spilled some water on the remote. but I checked the instruction booklet and if SPECIFICALLY says "Do not spill water on the remote, asshole". Oh, my bad.

  • June 14, 2007, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Batsuit

    by wallywest74

    Superherohype.com has a picture of the new Batsuit, looks fucking great!

  • June 14, 2007, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Fantastic Four 2 makes Catwoman 1 look like

    by SkeletonParty

    Spider-Man 3

  • June 14, 2007, 5:31 p.m. CST

    AICN....FUCK YOU

    by BYOBkenobi

    You guys can't even get a reputable review of this movie and are balking at it's potential success. A spinoff of this movie and it's title character was inevitable, yet you act surprised when the suits give the nod to a director. Fuck you Harry, Merrick and anyone else on this site who constantly bash the fuck out of shit you're not getting payola to promote. Write a love letter about that shit, dickbags.

  • June 14, 2007, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Looks like somebody forgot....

    by SkeletonParty

    BYOBkenobi's birthday. He grumpy.

  • June 14, 2007, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Peter Travers just

    by Colonel Activity

    totally trashed FF2...I wonder if FOX will try to strong-arm Rolling Stone.

  • June 14, 2007, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Memflix

    by United States

    I will start getting my movie reviews from his web site: http://tinyurl.com/2fzo7g Good Luck to you, Jesse! United States is behind you 100%!

  • June 14, 2007, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Memflix

    by United States

    http://tinyurl.com/2fzo7g

  • June 14, 2007, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Memflix is a fucking HERO!

    by Kirbymanly

    Guys, we should do something for him. Seriously. The guy lost his job to let us know not to spend our hard earned money on a shit movie. By the way, maybe I missed this but... how did they figure out it was him?

  • June 14, 2007, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Memflix Thread

    by United States

    I agree that the Memflix Saga deserves its own talkback. How about it, Harry?

  • June 14, 2007, 5:54 p.m. CST

    new batsuit...

    by blindambition238

    http://tinyurl.com/yqdt3a too silver! and way too many flames!

  • June 14, 2007, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Hell deserves it own talkback!!

    by mr dark

    The MEMFILX saga deserves a screenply!!! Get on it Mori.. You could take some liberties and have the studio henchmen out to pull a wet hit on him...Memflix on the run and then ,and then.. oh hell I ain't going to write it for you..

  • June 14, 2007, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Mr Dark's Hyperbole - Last Word From Me

    by Dominic-Vobiscum

    I'm as prone to it as the next guy, but jesus fucking christ are you serious? Defending my first amendment rights? I don't know whether to laugh or just bow my head in shame that someone could actually believe that. <br><br> Do you really think he gave two shits about free speech when he sent in his reviews? He wanted to drive traffic to his website and be "FIRST!" That's all. <br><br> Let me set up a scenario for you. <br><br> Suppose Memflix had been smoking pot while working the booth. Not a big deal, right? Who cares? The managers all know, they don't care, he gets his job done. No big deal. <br><br> A new manager takes over the theater and catches him sparking up a spliff. Fires him on the spot. <br><br> Was the firing wrong because he'd smoked at least 100 joints in the booth before and no one said "boo"? Or was he doing something that HE KNEW was wrong all along and just took for granted that he was being allowed to get away with it? <br><br> He should have said, "Well that sucks that I got suspended, but I probably shouldn't have been sending in spoiler filled reviews to notoriously shady and unprofessional entertainment gossip sites". <br><br> And for that matter, why do we automatically assume that everything Memflix says is 100% factual and everything his theater and Fox say is 100% a lie? Isn't it far more likely that they are both conveniently leaving out details so their stories sound better? <br><br> Because you know what the most likely scenario is? It's the pot smoking one. <br><br> Memflix writes reviews and wants people to got to his website. He sends early reviews to AICN to make sure people know his name and go to his site. His boss knows, and either doesn't have a full understanding or just doesn't care. Fox says, "Hey...there's a bunch of early reviews being released and it's all coming from this theater. Let's not work with them anymore." And the theater goes, "Oh shit! We're gonna lose a lot of money! We gotta fire this guy and suck up to Fox to make sure we don't lose our screeners!" So they suspend/fire him as a way to prove to Fox that they "take this sort of thing seriously". <br><br> But now Memflix is portrayed as some sort of heroic victim. He's a poor little David against a big giant Goliath. And it's stupid. He got called on doing something he shouldn't have been doing. That's ALL! <br><br> And I don't even blame Memflix really. I blame idiots who look for any excuse to flip off corporations while still feeding their fat faces with every piece of junk that comes down the pike. <br><br> And I blame hypocrites like Moriarity who know fuck all about journalistic ethics, and who has remained CURIOUSLY FUCKING SILENT on this matter since lambasting Fox and making a BFD about this in the first place. <br><br> What's the matter Mori? Did you realize that you might have jeapordized your "writing" career with your outburst? Or might have hurt Harry's "producing" career?<br><br> There, I'm done. I have no delusions that I'll change anyone's mind anymore than anyone will change mine. It merely annoys me when people achieve success (as Memflix surely will now) through infamy and pity parties rather than actually working hard and holding one's self to some sort of standard of ethics and accountability and I felt like venting.<br><br> Memflix = Paris Hilton.

  • June 14, 2007, 6:07 p.m. CST

    go see the new batsuit

    by justin s

    http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5860

  • June 14, 2007, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Dom Vob - you're right on all aspects except...

    by SkeletonParty

    the "spoiler-filled" review. <p>I don't think he had any spoilers. <p>He chose to write about the flick and got suspended. In fact, according to his website he can still work there if he chose, just not in the pre-screening thing that he liked. <p>Still, though . . . <p>Memflix = Mother Teresa

  • June 14, 2007, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Dominic-Vobiscum a short response

    by mr dark

    Memflix may not of been thnking about his first ammendment rights at the time he was writng said review.. But every writer does think about them when somebody tries to stop thier words for being made public..Hyperbole maybe..But if it got people to think about erosion of rights just for a minute Hey I'm happy.. But again I must ask you Dominic-Vobiscum what brings you to this site is it early reviews , leaked info, or just the talkbacks ..whatever it is chances are that it from some daring soul in the business who is taking a chance to give you what you seek.. Hyperbole ? me? maybe... Hipocrite / you? absolutely...

  • June 14, 2007, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Suntimes gave it 2 1/2 stars

    by bgart13

    Essentially says it's significantly better than the first, however...still silly and not great.

  • June 14, 2007, 6:30 p.m. CST

    FF2 has gotta 25% rating at Rotten Tomatoes

    by lost.rules

    Ouch!!!!!! Transformers and Harry Potter are our only hopes to redeem this summer. And, maybe The Simpsons.

  • June 14, 2007, 6:33 p.m. CST

    I'm nominating MEMFLIX for Sainthood

    by mr dark

    You heard it hear first...

  • June 14, 2007, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Supreme Power

    by NYC Strong

    HO can you mention MS's comics without mentioning Supreme Power. He takes DCs top characters and retells their stories as if they lived in the real world. For example, the superman type character is taken away from Ma and Pa Kent as a baby by the CIA. Great stuff.

  • June 14, 2007, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Saint Memflix protect us..

    by mr dark

    Against The Evil Media giants..

  • June 14, 2007, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Power On

    by darkslab

    Captain power is about the only thing I remember from JMS. Tried to watch Babylon 5, and it was too goofy. Not saying Captain Power wasn't. . .

  • June 14, 2007, 7:16 p.m. CST

    THIS YEAR'S LITTLE MISS WOLVERINE AND MAGNETO SPINOFF!!

    by Err

    It's true.

  • June 14, 2007, 7:17 p.m. CST

    To make it more realistic, Galactus will remain a cloud

    by Err

    and the surfer will be an astronaut who "surfs" or floats on a piece of shuttle wreckage.

  • June 14, 2007, 7:20 p.m. CST

    err

    by mr dark

    that was Dark Star..

  • June 14, 2007, 7:25 p.m. CST

    mr dark

    by Err

    DAMN YOU JOHN CARPENTER!

  • June 14, 2007, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Yeah, but Peter Travers gets paid to trash movies

    by WONKABAR

    while "Memflex" was paid to simply load them into a projector and leave. Fox sucks a fat one, but I understand why they do....

  • June 14, 2007, 7:40 p.m. CST

    wonkabar

    by mr dark

    A rolling stone gathers no Fox

  • June 14, 2007, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Watchmen = Greatest Comic Book Ever Made

    by Err

    Period

  • June 14, 2007, 7:58 p.m. CST

    watchmen

    by mr dark

    Watchmen indeed is the best comic ever.. I am hoping it becomes the best Comic book movie ever .. I pray to Saint Memflix

  • June 14, 2007, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Watchmen will not work as a movie.

    by lost.rules

    It's just not gonna happen, guys.

  • June 14, 2007, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Cuntdown to FF2 Embargo lift 5 hours and 46 min.

    by mr dark

    and counting...

  • June 14, 2007, 8:35 p.m. CST

    Good point mr dark

    by WONKABAR

    Saint... WTF are you talkn' about? Pope baby...POPE!

  • June 14, 2007, 8:56 p.m. CST

    there was already a horror film called The Changeling

    by Demosthenes2

    in the 80s I think. Confusing.

  • June 14, 2007, 9:32 p.m. CST

    SILVER SURFER DESERVES HIS OWN GOOD MOVIE

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    and f4 2 is 34 percent right now

  • June 14, 2007, 10:37 p.m. CST

    It would be great if Aronofsky did it.

    by superninja

    Lots of internal monologues and long pans of the vast void of space. Flights of comets, asteroid herds. Set to the synthesizer music of Vangelis. Big electric guitar solo when Galactus first appears. Yeah.

  • June 14, 2007, 11 p.m. CST

    FF: Rise Of The Shit, 29% Rotten and sinking

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    TOA= Turd On Arrival just as predicted. <BR> <BR> http://tinyurl.com/yrx7ts

  • June 14, 2007, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Thanos BEEYOTCHES

    by That Reilly Monster

    I'm not even sure how it could be done, is there a way to make a convincing CGI Thanos? Anyhoo, that's the first thing I thought of when I read the part about looking for the older, X-Men audience. On-screen Thanos could be incredibly cool. Or horrific, if handled poorly.

  • June 14, 2007, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Yeah, I like me some Thanos and his nutty

    by superninja

    grandaughter Nebula. The supporting characters in the Silver Surfer are more interesting than the Surfer. Not that that's a bad thing, they should just make an ensemble movie since after FF2 he will have freed himself from Galactus.

  • June 14, 2007, 11:24 p.m. CST

    Infinity Gauntlet, just leave out Earth heroes.

    by superninja

    Adam Warlock, Gammora, Pip. It will be like LOTR with aliens.

  • June 14, 2007, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Galactus Wears Purple Pants

    by Preacher_klee

    It's not to early to start hassling him. Have the great Purple Pants-wearing giant Galactus. FF2 can be all a dream or something. myspace.com/galactuswearspurplepants also group of the same name on Facebook.

  • June 14, 2007, 11:29 p.m. CST

    superninja

    by That Reilly Monster

    I was just thinking that, but I think it would be almost impossible to convince any studio to leave the story alone, and I don't think it would sell well with the public. One thing on my geek wish list is that I would love to see Infinity Gauntlet/War/Crusade done as an animated series.

  • June 14, 2007, 11:49 p.m. CST

    Yeah, a 12 hour animated miniseries.

    by superninja

    We need it now.

  • June 15, 2007, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Comic books and age demographics

    by Chishu_Ryu

    I'd agree that when comic books were first created back in the 30's, they were made for and marketed to kids and teenagers. But the comic book medium evolved over the years. Comic books developed different niche markets, especially beginning in the 50's. Romance comics were marketed to young women, Mickey Mouse comics for the young kids, and so forth. A prominent senator even attacked the comics industry for the "excessive" amount of "adult" material in comics at the time, such as murder and scantly clad women, which led to the creation of the comics code. Comics creators were aware of this new adult audience and slowly adapted without angering the feds. Marvel even titled one series "Amazing Adult Fantasy" for a short time before it became the intro for Spiderman. Comics slowly incorporated adult themes into their stories. In the Fantastic Four, there were still the intergalactic adventures and colorful costumes that appealed to kids, but there was also the family drama that appealed to adults, such as Sue Storm worrying over the safety of her child. Read the fanmail pages of any of those old Marvel comics and you'll see most of them written by adult readers. The old Silver Surfer series, Stan Lee's pride and joy, had a particular adult bent, as the Surfer lamented about humanity's inherent violence to one another, racial prejudice, poverty, nuclear armageddon, and other issues. Green Lantern/Green Arrow by Denny O'Neil and Neal Adams took it even further by covering those issues, and even tackled drug abuse. Again, read the fan mail pages from those comics, and you'll find that they're reasoned and well thought out letters written by adult readers. Comic books in those days were as much for kids as were sci-fi adventure films, (like Forbidden Planet or Day the Earth Stood Still) or sci-fi novels and pulp magazines.

  • June 15, 2007, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Earth......

    by Quake II

    better not be shown in the Silver Surfer movie. They covered that in FF2. Having him on Earth a second time would be fucking L-A-M-E and a budget saving cop-out. Show us the Surfer exploring crazy worlds we've never seen. Battling creatures that even Giger would run from. The budget will have to be HUGE for it to work.

  • June 15, 2007, 1:32 a.m. CST

    will Galactus actually be in the Surfer movie?

    by yeah i'm a jerk!

    honestly, that was a cop out in the worst way. I enjoyed FF2, with the exception of Julian McMahon, who sucks ass, and the stupid cloud that should have been Galactus. I hope JMS can give us a better Galactus than a giant fart cloud. and Peter Travers is the worst critic in mainstream media, even if he's right. death to Rolling Stone Magazine!

  • June 15, 2007, 1:54 a.m. CST

    Damn you Memflix!

    by Mister Fame

    Damn you Memflix!

  • June 15, 2007, 2:02 a.m. CST

    Kill Julian McMahon's Doom and just say he was a

    by superninja

    DOOMBOT. The real Doom can do a doubled fisted hole through the chest, old school.

  • June 15, 2007, 2:50 a.m. CST

    23% fresh...

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    is it possible this thing stays below the 26% of it's much beloved predecesor? How do the execs see the first film and bring back the same creative team behind it. Oh right, 150 million dollars

  • June 15, 2007, 5:52 a.m. CST

    HERE'S YOUR ANSWER, MEMFLIX:

    by Playkins

    So, right out of the CNN article, exactly what myself and others said- "there's somebody there working for (Malco) who is writing reviews in advance. That's all they said. No one asked us to do anything. We have been in business 95 years, and this is the first time anything like this happened. And this boy knew what he was doing was the wrong thing. ... He was in a position of trust and he violated that trust."

  • June 15, 2007, 8:40 a.m. CST

    brobdingnag and fanboy history

    by Chishu_Ryu

    Stan Lee said this about co-creating the FF in 1961 (from Wikipedia)..."this once, I would do the type of story I mysef would enjoy reading...and the characters would the kind of characters I could relate to". I don't have my old comics collection on hand right now, but here's an excerpt of a fan letter from 1965 about Dr. Strange..."Hi! And the best to you from all points of the compass! The titanic and epic battles of the minds, and mystical occult battles of Dr. Strange and Baron Mordo are indeed exciting and awe-inspiring!" Here's a letter excerpt from a 1969 issue of FF... "Stan, through the use of both tragedy and comedy, has added emotions to characters who could easily be two-dimensional." Sorry, I don't think either of those two fans sounded like children. And how old are you, brobdingnag? You must be a child if you're on website and thread that's talking about a movie made for kids (FF), right? The truth is, fanboys have been on this planet since the first superhero was invented, since Lord of the Rings, since there's been the youthful spark in all of us that still craves for out-of-this-world fantastic adventures. Fanboys have never been just pre-teen kids with a comic book rolled up in their back pockets. They've been college students, men and women with families, doctors and lawyers, newstand owners, grandparents, and so on. In Japan, manga readers themselves are and have been of all ages. Stan Lee and Jack Kirby knew who they were writing for in 1961. Think it was just for kids? Why weren't there cute fuzzy talking animals walking around, too? Comics have always been written for everyone of all ages, just like sci-fi movies were for everyone. Fanboys up to this day haven't just been kids but adults who haven't given up on their imagination. I believe Frederico Fellini was also a comic book fanboy...

  • June 15, 2007, 8:48 a.m. CST

    That Reilly Monster

    by brassai2003

    The cloest you can get to animated Infinity G is here: http://tinyurl.com/2exec8 start at Episode 1 and work yer way to 13. It's the SS cartoon that was drawn like kirby's work. Thanos is is ep 2 and Drax is in 4.

  • June 15, 2007, 8:53 a.m. CST

    superninja

    by brassai2003

    check it: http://tinyurl.com/2exec8

  • June 15, 2007, 10:40 a.m. CST

    brassai, yeah, I know I had seen a few eppys of

    by superninja

    that toon. Most of the shows were kind of ponderous and boring, but that's how the comics were at times, too.

  • June 15, 2007, 12:36 p.m. CST

    SN

    by brassai2003

    word. but that art and the chance to see Thanos, NOva and Drax animated ( in Kerby style) kicks ass.

  • June 15, 2007, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Just got back from a matinee full little kids...

    by WONKABAR

    judging from the reaction I saw today, I think The Silver Surfer is going to become a very popular character.

  • June 15, 2007, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Who comics were marketed to...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    First, I never mentioned EC comics. Second, on who 60's comic books were marketed to. If you pick up any issue of Marvel Comics from the 60's, I have one in my hand, Strange Tales #136 (1964). you will find ads for an adult audience, as well as younglings. Let's see, page 9, an ad for an auto mechanics trade school. Page 14, sell Grit magazine. Page 25, an ad for a self hair trimmer, an ad soliciting for original songs and poetry, an ad on how to earn $200 in your spare time. On the inside back cover, an ad for a mail order U.S. Gov't Surplus store. If Marvel Comics at that time were marketed for kids, those ads seemly stupidly out of place, don't they? brobdingnag, you pwn in your dreams, friend... Please respond if you'd like another smackdown...