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Rob Thomas To TV Guide: MARS 'Officially Dead'!!
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"'Veronica Mars' is officially dead," according to a Monday email authored by series mastermind Rob Thomas.
“I think Dawn Ostroff genuinely would have liked to have continued on with a version of the show, but there was too much resistance around her,” Thomas told TV Guide’s Mike Ausiello Monday. “At the end of the day, it would've been kinder had the band aid simply been ripped off rather peeled away in than this agonizingly slow manner.”
Fans have already bought and paid for a huge half-ton shipment of Mars Bars and other candy slated to be delivered to The CW’s offices Thursday. Their hope was the foodstuffs would precipitate a "Jericho"-like resurrection of the series.
Ausiello suggests redirecting the candy shipment to Warner Bros.' feature division, where Thomas would like to get a "Veronica Mars" movie set up.
No telling how this news will affect a planned Tuesday mass iTunes download of “The Bitch Is Back,” which is now the series - rather than just the season - finale of “Veronica Mars.”
The silver lining for fans is Thomas is already rumored to have been approached to serve as showrunner of “Miss/Guided,” a midseason ABC series about a high school guidance counselor starring another fabulous blonde, Judy Greer ("Arrested Development," "Love Monkey").
Find all of Ausiello’s post here.
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Sorry Guys, maybe you can send all the Mars bars to CBS and they'll pick up the show.
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You'd think that they wait until they actually saw what sort of shipment they got before kicking the fans in the balls
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so maybe then they'll release some sorta box set with all 3 seasons? since i never bought any that would be swell. i think fans should be glad it lasted as long as it did...this could have easily been one of those many shows cancelled after the 1st season.
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Oh no, it wasn't Dawn's fault, it was the people around her. Way to leave that bridge unburnt, Rob.
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He pointed and said "Ha Ha!"
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I just never was that interested. Tough break guys
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How about 2 two hour movies a year like the show Colombo used to do? It's actually the perfect show for that format. You can air them once and then sell them direct to dvd.
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Friggin idiots. Who's going to eat 2 tonnes of nuts. No-one. Who's going to eat 2 tonnes of Mars Bars. Yeah, that'll teach them.
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Veronica fans are weak. Long live Jericho!!!!! I'd see a Veronica movie but Season 3 was pretty bad at points and seemed to be limping along. I'd rather they shift things up in a more adult oriented world for a movie. Like the rumored FBI pitch or whatever. No more geeks vs. jocks, frat guys vs. feminist cliches.
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buying a bunch of candy for the sake of saving the show? i regret nothing.
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Bah!
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When I first saw Greer back in her early days (jawbreaker, maybe?) i thought she was plain ugly. She's since cleaned up pretty nicely, but to compare her or use her in the same sentence as Kristen Bell is just wrong.
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That figures, I splurged for a 12 pack, at nearly $20. I wonder what they'll do with all that candy?
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I want KB to play Supergirl in Season 7 of Smallville.
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All you boobs ended up doing was support a candy company. Brilliant work, boys and girls.
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....their undisclosed stake in the snacks and candy industries. They cancel cult shows and rake in the profits from overzealous fans with money to spare.
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lame effort
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I remember when Angel was cancelled, everyone from showrunners to critics was saying that the show was done but the network still had their sound byte of a deadline deflecting any outcries. At least in Angel's case, they informed the cast and crew somewhat in advance so they could script the final eps. I took a "wait and see" approach with Angel because, even though I just sent in a lousy postcard, I was burnt by the abrupt cancellation of Firefly. After that experience, I thought to myself "never again" when it came to WB/UPN and now the CW.
Good try there, folks. I am sorry about your show. Been there; done that. However, a wrap -up movie to include on the box set would be awesome.+ -
I concur. From Chloe to Supergirl is a big upgrade.
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I feel burned. Dawn Ostroff owes me either twenty bucks or 12 new episodes of Veronica Mars. They couldn't have let slip this bit of info say, Thursday? You know, before I spent my lunch money on candy I don't eat> I'm heading over to the CW and I'm going to hand out watermelon slush and dropkicks -- and I'm all out of slush. See you in Hell.
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there is no reason to watch the CW now.
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Good riddance, overpraised, overhyped, overpublicized show!!
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Everyone else in the world knew this thing was dead accept for you idiots on this site. Again, it had < 2 million viewers. Jericho had between 7 and 10. That's what was even somewhat reasonable to think Jericho could come back.
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I got interested in "Alias"...and it was promptly cancelled. I got interested in "Firefly"...and it was promptly cancelled. I got interested in "Justice"...and it was promptly cancelled. I caught an episode of VM a few weeks ago at a friend's house and told her I'd have to go back and watch some episodes...and now they've cancelled it. Maybe I should stop watching "Lost" before I ruin it for everyone else...
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Bugger. I hope Ms Bell doesn't start making crappy horror flicks and finds something decent to star in.
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Man, that guy really pisses me off.
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Did you people really think that sending the people at CW mars bars was going to do anything but make them laugh at your stupidity? All it was going to prove was that you all have more money than brains.
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The guy behind that Amazon store has only got the funds to put 2 of his 3 kids through college out of this... Won't you people think of the children, please, won't somebody think of the children...
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No, no, PLEASE keep watching Lost. Cancellation would be the best thing that ever happened to that series.
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'Lost' is a great show. It's always fun to listen to the mouth-breathers whine about it, though- I'll miss that almost as much as the show when it ends in 2010.
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Without Veronica what can she do? Her movie career is less than stellar. Her horror movie was forgettable. Fifty Pills was pretty good but not because of her. She was the token naggy GF in that one although she made the role tolerable.
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...to bring down a TV network? As a consumer I'd like to punish the CW in some way. I'm over sending them candy it's time to get "Dark Wesleyesque" on these idiots. Switch off the CW at sweeps campaign anyone?
Guess not, but it would be nice. If only. -
remember all those fans who lined in front of Grauman's Chinese months in advance to see "Revenge of the Sith"? Then wouldn't give up their places in line after they found out "Sith' wouldn't be playing there?
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The show got less viewers than "Firefly" and look how poorly Serenity did at the box office.
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Her first movie was crap, but Sarah Michelle Gellar and Jessica Beil both had clunkers while they were with the WB/UPN. Anyone remember Simply Irresistable (biggest case of false advertising ever), Harvard Man, Rules of Attraction, or Summer Catch? Even Cruel Intentions was a very modest hit. I think both those stars are the model for Bell's movie career. Both had mediocre starts in movies and are now making several million a film. Bell has four movies coming out in the next year or two. She looks to have more work than she can handle.
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Which is more than you can say for Arrested Development. Or Jericho. It had a decent run, and a kinda crappy third season. Get the first two on DVD and enjoy 50 or so hours of good TV, and be done with it.
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You make a strong case for parents' monitoring their kids' internet usage more closely.
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jennifer garner wanted out and so they ended it.
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That serenity movie is now in the black due to great dvd sales..a special edition dvd will be released in the next month or so as well. Veronica Mars dvd's are big sellers too.
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No straight male should ever use the word "fabulous" unless it is immediately followed by "Furry Freak Brothers."
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And dude, you need to mellow out a bit. I mean, online anger is sad. "THESE PEOPLE IS THE STUPIDIST OF MUCKN MORONS-- I MUST STAND UP FOR ALL THATIS LOGICAL AND SMRT OR THE AICN TALKBACKS WILL FALL!" Calm it down some. Man, I helped big time with the campaign, and it took maybe an hour of my day. For most people, it was 2 or 3 bucks and 5 minutes. And yes, most people realized it has almost no chance of success. The other thing that you keep harping about-- dude, we GET that the shipment itself doesn't do much. What we hoped was to get PUBLICITY and a wave of buzz for the show going. The way to do that is to get reporters and bloggers writing up the fan efforts. I don't get why you're not connecting that. You keep saying it was the publicity that saved Jericho, but the press was writing up the nuts campaign. So... but please, scream at me and other some more, have a fucking embolism pop in your brain out of frustration. Let the anger go.
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All I could think as I'm reading about Mars bars and iTunes is... "Good lord! Get over it and move on!"
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Why make a big deal out of any of it? Why stand in line at Midnight to see a movie? Why create web sites that report every little rumor about a potential movie or tv show? Why bag and board comic books like they're made of diamonds? Why spend hours defining alien languages and pondering the fate of made up characters? Look, people do a lot of things for the art that entertains them. Please don't act like you're above it, especially when you're on a Talkback on AICN. God. This is just about some people trying to sound smarter or better than other people. I'm not upset about it or anything, I just think it kind of mean-spirited.
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The silver lining for fans will be when the VM movie gets greenlit.
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AAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW
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Regardless of how futile this campaign may have been, it certainly highlighted just how passionate VM fans are.
Still, with this much negative feedback, no wonder there are so many reality shows for farmers. What's next? "Cows pooping for primetime"? -
The show had more viewers the BSG or The Shield. Still think it would have been cancelled anywhere else...it just so happens it ended up on THE CW crap network instead of a basic cable network like it truly belonged.
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As in ewwww, you've got another cycle of the Pussycat Whores and Farmer Wants a Wife. As for me, I'll be watching the IFL on MyNetwork TV, which now owns a 1-0 lead on the CW in shows I'm eager to watch from this moment on.
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I sent $20 to the revival effort. Hopefully some deal can be arranged where the candy can go to kids or something. Your hearts certainly were in the right place. :(
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Greer was SUPPOSED to be homely in Jawbreaker, but she's actually become quite a beauty in a very odd way. not everything has to be cookie-cutter Hollywood style blonde, and I like that about her.
That was not Supergirl in the s3 finale of Smallville. -
I don't know why people are blaming The CW for the show's cancellation. The ratings were horrible. Even "One Tree Hill" and that insipid "Pussycat Dolls" show had better ratings. The CW had every right to cancel VM. At least it got 3 full seasons, which is more than a lot of great shows that have been cancelled before their time have gotten. Not to mention, the quality of the show was steadily declining. We hardly ever saw Wallace and Weevil in season 3, were subjected to the extremely annoying Piz, they turned Logan into a boring loser, and they killed off Sheriff Lamb! I also think Rob Thomas was very foolish ending it the way he did. He knew there was a very good chance his show would be cancelled and chose to leave the fans unsatisfied. If you want to watch a quality show on The CW that actually improved in its second season, watch "Supernatural" on Thursday nights.
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If it were me, I'd have done a Lt. Dan in Forrest Gump and order a napalm strike on that bridge. Why would anyone want to work with a mickey mouse organization like the CW from here on out? Now that it's done, the CW can begin the countdown clock to its inevitable demise. I'm guessing before 2010.
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I want to create an alternate universe where unduly cancelled shows can live on.
I want to see VM blocked in before Karen Sisco.
Pair Arrested Development with Cupid for a night of dramedy.
Firefly and Space: Above and Beyond could make a scifi duo
Much as I hate lawyer/cop/doctor procedurals, I'm sure I could stomach a few of the shortlived ones,maybe Philly, Conviction, or something else. -
It's better than being in "Drive"'s shoes where they didn't even get enough going for a DVD. The movie route is still open too. And I'm so happy Judy Greer is gonna be on tv every week I'm considering getting satellite just for her.
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Solid show, very few clunkers. AND the season finale for season 2 should be the model for every 'bubble' show ever. They tied up the show's main story and introduced another without really involving viewers in its outcome. Excellent way to go, as it would have been a perfectly acceptable SERIES finale had the show not gotten picked up (which, luckily, it did).
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So does she jump the sinking ship that is the CW or not? My answer: why stay? There's nothing left there for her. It's the CW's loss. I don't want her to do voiceovers on a show that's going to probably get Hidden Palms-esque ratings.
Kristen, begone from the CW. It will be the best career move you ever made. -
Had to carry some of the Sopranos talkback over here.
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With Mac as a 40 foot giant and Sheriff Lamb as a skinless demon. (Yes, I made a similar joke in the Sopranos talkback, but I like it.)
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Instead of a CUT to black and people going all Orson Welles War of the Worlds thinking their cable signal went kaput. VM had more closure than the Sops did. Yeah, I said it. :D
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WTF kind of show was Veronica Mars anyway?!? Oooops, I guess I wasn't a viewer. Maybe that's why the show got cancelled: NOBODY WATCHED IT. Oh well, you guys can continue biatching about something as worthless as an old worn sock. ___KNEEL___
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Will also be the nail in the coffin of the CW. VM may not have had a ton of viewers, but I feel strongly that the dedicated VM audience out there will do the right thing and not watch anything else on the CW from this point on. It's too bad, as they had an opportunity to do the right thing, like CBS has done with Jericho and NBC has done with Friday Night Lights. Sorry, CW, but you've permanently lost me as a viewer. I can sacrifice my need for Smallville, Supernatural and ANTM in order to demonstrate to you my objection to your serious lack of PR.
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Well, I believe in the case of Angel, the WB admitted they'd made a mistake in hindsight.
Which was obvious given all the replacements for Angel were much less successful and still cost them just about the same to make.
Unfortunately, by that time, it was too late to bring it back on. Which is a shame, just 12 episodes, or maybe even 6 would have been enough to fashion a slightly less abrupt ending. -
But I mean, we tried. That's something. Maybe Thomas will create a new show in a few years and it'll be equally good.
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I wanted to take the night to see what the VM base was thinking.
The general sentiment seems to be keep going. Now, that may sound crazy, but the bottom line is, nothing is truly official until those contracts expire. JERICHO was 'officially' cancelled, too.
So, VM fans, take some heart. There's no good reason to quit now-- let's not take no for an answer until Friday gets here. The iTunes mass purchase campaign needs to be BIG tomorrow. Also, I'm posting phone numbers and emails over at The Scramble Network-- its time to start politely phonebombing the hell out of the CW offices.
Herc, please keep up the fight. AICN has been a HUGE part of our success, really things got started right here. PLEASE help us get the word out-- everyone needs to start buying VERONICA MARS' final episode "THE BITCH IS BACK," NOW!! Let's make it a big hit on the iTunes charts!
We'll stop bothering them on Friday, but til then let's keep going! -
To the talk backer who mentioned Serenity. Serenity broke even on the world wide scale of release and is making money on the DVD release. Also Serenity had RAVE reviews, Orson Scott Card said it was the finest Sci Fi movie EVER MADE. So come now.... hell I didnt see Firefly OR Serenity until after the film was on DVD. And many browncoats are discovering the film and series this way, I would bet a rerelease now would have a larger Box office... Ive never seen Veronica Mars, so I am indifferent so far... anything about the show that is a selling point? Whats good about the show, it would be nice if talkbackers TALKED UP THE SHOW, instead of WHY IS IT GONE? What the hell is the show even about....
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Rob Thomas has acted like Ostroff's/the network's bitch all along. Why would anyone expect that to change?The broadcast TV network game sucks, but that's how it's played.
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Rob's a pro in the business, he knows better than to go out with a tantrum. For all we know, Dawn Ostroff IS fighting for the show, and can't get it through to her bosses. How do we know? Besides, if he burns the bridge, what good would it do? He may have other show ideas, and there's no reason to alienate a network.
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I drank the Kool-Aid one more time, and ordered the VM finale on ITunes. I hope they're paying attention at The CW. You would think it might be smart to leave an option open in case half the new shows needed to be replaced 6 weeks(or less) into the season.
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I lied.
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Im glad its dead.. the show sucked, it appealed to guys who are on the verge of being a pedophile.. i watched it once and i thought the dad was creepy, like he was banging veronica or something. Plus, she is a horrible actress.
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"I got interested in "Alias"...and it was promptly cancelled."
Alias was on for FIVE seasons. -
Make it so TV Gods....
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Make it happen TV Gods.
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Make it happen TV Gods!
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Yes, I sent 3 Mars Bars. Yes, I'm downloading the final episode from iTunes. Even knowing that it won't make any difference. What would have really helped? Someone tell Logan Echolls about this threat to Veronica, let him get his rage on, and watch him storm into the executive offices of the CW and beat the holy crap out of someone, anyone. That would have saved the show. I'm going back to the nice land of denial now.
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I look forward to your breathlessly gushing Bionic Woman reviews this September.
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that post says a lot more about you than it does the show. Intriguing. Well, not really.
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Great show that doesn't get any of the attention it deserves around here.
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iTunes just got my $1.99
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Seriously, "FARMER TAKES A WIFE"? It's like they're purposely trying to drive away viewers from the CW... The only thing even remotely interesting on the network now is smallville, and that's sort of stretching it. Now there really is NO reason to watch the CW. They're doing an AWESOME job running it. Keep up the good work, idiots.
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I've never heard of it....
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There's a British store in my town that sells UK Mars Bars. They're more like a Milky Way than a Snickers, or maybe a cross between those two.
I know I've had a U.S. Mars Bar a long time ago, and I remember it being more like a Milky Way. -
On the bright side, my campaign to get a BLUTH FAMILY CHRISTMAS SPECIAL is going swimmingly. Stay tuned.
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Not likely, especially if NANCY DREW tanks.
You were supposed to send Mars bars? Oops, my gf dispatched a box of Chunky (hope they forward it to Drew Carey, he'll probably be a shoo-in for one of the network's sitcoms). -
I started watching Alias during season 4. Well, technically I rented seasons 1-3 on DVD while tivoing season 4, and then watched season 4. Then in season 5 it got the axe.
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The show is dead. There were how many viewers for Vernoica Mars over three years? Two million, tops? Even if all of you stopped watching CW they wouldn't be missing much (nor would they give a shit).
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who keeps fucking you over.
for the last time RIP veronica mars, KB will go onto bigger and better things, ( well i hope so) i thought SMG was great in buffy and she's done fuck out of interets outside it. KB mix it up a bit and get some good roles, move onto biggger and better things.
the guy who plays her dad should also do well, i remember seeing him ona comedy show thing, wasnt outstand but in VM he excelled
as for dick, mac, wallace, logan and weevil hmm not too sure, they seem very typecastable roles. get out there boys and girls and get some juicy roles
what a bitch, VM gone before its time. CW you are fucked. no honestly, i only fast forward thru smallville out of habit, you've shot yourself in the foot -
"A false Kara already appeared in the third season finale, but was revealed to be a regular human girl who disappeared ten years before and had been brainwashed by Jor-El."
I would tone down the unnecessary name-calling, honestly. -
Who knows? But I just wanted to point out that that may not have been "Supergirl" Supergirl.
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