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Massawyrm Writes A Love Letter Of His Own To The Love Letter That Is 5-25-77!!

Published at:  Jun 11, 2007 8:25:06 AM CDT




Hola all. Massawyrm here.


It's always nice to be pleasantly surprised. As much as I wanted this movie to be great, there was a nagging fear from the mixed reviews out of Celebration IV tinged with the overall general fear of another fetish movie. I mean, I'm all about loving Star Wars, but come on – making a film all about another movie? What's the point of that?



Well, as it turns out, the point is that this movie is only kind of about Star Wars. The title of this movie isn't just about the release date of a movie. It's about a day of reckoning for Patrick Read Johnson, a very real day in his life after which nothing was ever the same. As has been said, both in the positive and to its detriment, very little of this movie has anything to do directly with Star Wars. It's not a series of Star Wars riffs and references; quite the contrary, it is actually mostly about a world before Star Wars. A world I was both very familiar and completely unfamiliar with.



You see, I have the very odd distinction of having a scene from Star Wars be my very first memory. Whether I was two or three I'm unsure. What I am sure of is being in that movie theatre, staring up at Luke Skywalker looking out over the deserts of Tatooine and its two setting suns, thinking "Hey! Why does he get two?" And while it may seem convenient for a critic to claim this as their first memory, the truth is that there is a very real reason I chose to do this for a living. I can track the events of my entire life through release dates and film experiences. From where I lived at what ages (I was a military BRAT) by what theatre I saw The Secret of NIMH in, to my first (and last) date with a cheerleader, taking her to a double feature of Batman and License to Kill, to the moment I realized that people actually do THIS for a living while reading a Return of the Living Dead part 2 review in the local paper. Hell, I began to fall in love with my wife when I discovered she'd seen Pulp Fiction in a theatre more times than I had (it was still in theatres at the time) and when she got a number of my movie reference jokes. Our first date was The Crow, our second Reservoir Dogs. Both on VHS.



The point is, 5-25-77 is a movie entirely about what it was like to be a film lover in a world BEFORE there was a Star Wars. And while I've seen all the movies this film is alluding to (I'm betting pretty much anyone reading this has seen at least most of them), I'd never seen them in context. I mean, the little robots from Silent Running were cool and all – but they were no R2 unit. Of course, that they were pre-SW meant nothing to me as a child. This is the story of someone they did mean something to.



It is the true story about one of the first people to ever see Star Wars (in its unfinished form) and what that experience did to his movie loving life. And ultimately it is a challenge, the gauntlet being thrown down for a young filmmaker, forcing him to decide between his beckoning dream and the comfort and love to be found in his small town. For Patrick Read Johnson, 5-25-77 is a date looming on the horizon on which he knows he'll be forced to choose between his home and his dream. And that is exactly why this film works.



Rather than being another fetish film or comical parody of the easily sniped members of movie fandom, it is a very real, down to earth story about dreams and being fearful of taking that first step. It is an incredibly sweet coming of age story filled with the entirely true adventures of someone who got an experience that is pretty hard to believe and was then left to try to speak about it to a town that didn't yet speak the language. But you don't need to be a Star Wars fan or hell, even a movie nut, to love this. It's a film about dreams. And every one of us have had, or will one day have, that moment in which you are forced to choose between the life you want and the life you have. This film speaks to that.



Now what we saw was an early cut and still had some unfinished effects and was what Patrick himself referred to as "Directors Cut" in length. While I am myself unsure what's going to go (as it's all good) it needs to be quickened just a bit. Aside from that, there's little to do. I absolutely LOVE this film. It hit me square in the gut and has weighed heavy on my mind for days. It's invigorated me, reinspired me, and set me working overtime during a week where I could easily coast. It's rare that a movie really touches you and reminds you what you're doing this all for – and movies like that are the one's you cherish.



This is a film for film lovers. This is a film for filmmakers. This is a film for anyone who loves a really strong coming of age film. We had this pegged way wrong from early out. This isn't a film targeted at Star wars fans. Frankly, I completely understand the mixed reaction it received at Celebration IV. This wasn't a movie intended for them as a demographic. It is simply about how that one movie changed one mans life. That people still dress up as characters from that movie is immaterial. It hit me hard and it brought my wife to tears. I can't say much better than that. Highly recommended for anyone that simply LOVES film, wants to make them, digs teen or coming of age drama/comedies. Not recommended for anyone hoping for a laugh-a-minute reference fest. While it has its moments, and is quite funny, it's not a goof on films. It's a love letter to them.



Until next time friends, smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em.

Massawyrm



Yub Nub, eee chop yuub nub.








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    Readers Talkback

  • Jun 11, 2007 8:26:06 AM CDT

    huh

    by jeanluc dickhard

  • Jun 11, 2007 8:26:49 AM CDT

    Lets go METS

    by jeanluc dickhard

  • Jun 11, 2007 8:29:32 AM CDT

    Wow! A positive review!

    by thebige

    When/where will this be released, or will I have to wait for DVD, living here in podunkville?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jun 11, 2007 8:29:52 AM CDT

    when can we see this?

    by legokenobi

    the more i read, the more i want to see it. thanks, massawyrm!

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  • Jun 11, 2007 8:31:08 AM CDT

    METS? Like what the Tigers did to you?

    by thebige

    Mets looked a little weak this weekend, Dickhard!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jun 11, 2007 8:34:47 AM CDT

    5-25-77st!

    by jakes nel

  • Jun 11, 2007 8:37:58 AM CDT

    any updates?

    by typingaway

    I want to know when we can expect this film in theatres?.....or dvd? I can't wait! :)

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jun 11, 2007 8:39:45 AM CDT

    sounds gay

    by erkojock

    sounds gay

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  • Jun 11, 2007 8:45:31 AM CDT

    Chewbacca has chosen HD-DVD... Here's why....

    by nachonegro

    Rrrhhhhhwwwwwwooooooaaaaarrrrr!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jun 11, 2007 8:46:42 AM CDT

    Princess Leia has chosen HD-DVD... Here's why....

    by nachonegro

    Because her blue-ray player is going into the garbage chute, flyboy!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jun 11, 2007 8:49:30 AM CDT

    i know i was in panic mode all weekend

    by jeanluc dickhard

    but i gotta keep hope alive

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  • Jun 11, 2007 8:51:08 AM CDT

    Grand Moff Tarkin has chosen HD-DVD... Here's why....

    by nachonegro

    Because Blueray is too low-resolution to make an effective demonstration!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jun 11, 2007 8:53:23 AM CDT

    Han Solo has chosen HD-DVD... Here's why....

    by nachonegro

    Because hokey standards and ancient formats are no match for a good backward compatible player at your side, kid!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jun 11, 2007 8:57:25 AM CDT

    Captain Antillies has chosen HD-DVD... Here's wh

    by nachonegro

    Because this is a consulars ship - we're on a diplomatic mission!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jun 11, 2007 8:59:03 AM CDT

    C3PO has chosen HD-DVD... Here's why....

    by nachonegro

    Because your Blueray player will be malfunctioning within a day, the near-sighted scrap pile!

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:04:21 AM CDT

    Funny Nacho!

    by cymbol

    However, it seems even in the technilogically advanced past in a galaxy far away, that they were supporting inferior formats! And I know for a fact Antillies is getting paid!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jun 11, 2007 9:05:03 AM CDT

    I thought about what I wanted to write in this TB...

    by franklin t marmoset

    ...but I found that I agreed with erkojock.It sounds gay.I'm a little appalled, to be honest, to be in agreement with what seems like a nasty little troll post, what with me considering myself to be a thoughtful and reasonably intelligent individual. Maybe I'm just an ass, or maybe erkojock is much smarter than I've given him credit for.While intellectuals seek to express themselves with maximum complexity, it is the purpose of the artist to pursue simplicity - to strip away and boil down and present us with their observations with artfulness, dexterity and skill. To say, simply, it sounds gay.Maybe this erkojock is an artist, I don't know. But I do know something about this film, and I say it with pride:It sounds gay.Thanks.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:09:04 AM CDT

    Like Cinema Paradiso without the stalking?

    by spandau belly

    I was born just before ROTJ came out and as a result I just didn't grow up with Star Wars. I saw the old films for the first time when I was 13 years old. I like the old movies a fair bit, didn't like the new ones. But my childhood will never be George Lucas's to rape.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:11:37 AM CDT

    EV-9D9 has chosen HD-DVD... Here's why....

    by nachonegro

    Because he's been without
    a high def player since his master got angry with their last Blueray drive, and disintegrated it!

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:14:29 AM CDT

    All i want to know....

    by skincity

    is the movie as Cool As Balls? if so, i'm there.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jun 11, 2007 9:18:25 AM CDT

    5-27-77

    by lordrando

    Did Eli Roth make this movie..? Then why are you guys so into it? George Lucas does not rape peoples childhoods, that is Disneys job. At least SW shows u need other people to reach a happy ending, not just a well timed kiss or glass footwear.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:20:44 AM CDT

    Ever since the XT38 came there's no demand for HD-DVD

    by greigy just wanted to say

    Looking at Harry's TOSHIBA HD-DVD Player.....

    "What a piece of Junk"

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jun 11, 2007 9:23:14 AM CDT

    R2D2 needs HD-DVD and here's why...

    by greigy just wanted to say

    Did you see the quality of that Princess Leia demo clip he showed Luke.... it was shit..!!! VHS was better... and in colour..!!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jun 11, 2007 9:29:31 AM CDT

    fantastic

    by alliejamison

    Great article. Now...if we could only see this thing!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jun 11, 2007 9:29:34 AM CDT

    This will be a day long remembered.......

    by greigy just wanted to say

    It has seen the end of HD-DVD.
    It will soon see the end of Knowles.


    "His fire has gone out of the universe..."

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:31:44 AM CDT

    Remember if sending X-wings to get Knowles...

    by greigy just wanted to say

    "The target area is only two metres wide"

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:32:23 AM CDT

    a love letter to a love letter?

    by newc0253

    isn't this dangerously close to some kind of concave-group-like masturbation-activity?

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:32:44 AM CDT

    Frank has chosen social isolation, and here's why...

    by franklin t marmoset

    He doesn't understand these HD-DVD catchphrase jokes. And by he, I mean me. I don't understand them. Pound Sand did a good one about Al Pacino, though. That one made me laugh for about twenty minutes.P.S. I do wonder how the world would be different if we were not railroaded by Star Wars at impressionable ages. There would be less Terminator films, maybe, but also less fat people. A fair trade-off? Also, I suspect George Lucas feels very guilty about the whole thing. Surely the scene where Anakin slaughters the baby jedis in that last prequel film is symbolic of Lucas's guilt over the possibly destructive influence he had over an entire generation of kiddy-winks.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:34:32 AM CDT

    My first memory was being abandoned at a drive in

    by spandau belly

    cinema by my parents and watching 'Solarbabies' for a week and living off of dropped popcorn. When social services found me I had a well honed arsenal of heckling remarks for the film and realized that I wanted to be a professional talkbacker.I realized I loved my wife when I found out she'd done more jail time than I. When we had our first child we decided to raise him with the HD-DVD set of beliefs, despite my wife's Blu-Ray/Ukrainian upbringing.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:39:08 AM CDT

    When Knowles sent Bounty Hunters to TOSHIBA....

    by greigy just wanted to say

    THEY SAID :

    "Tell Jabba that we've got his money!"

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:40:51 AM CDT

    Solarbabies...

    by massawyrm 1

    That explains alot Spandau. That explains a lot. TEAR - WIPE. Thanks for sharing, brother.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:43:55 AM CDT

    The ablility to destroy a planet...

    by digitaldong

    ...is insignificant to that of the power of HD-DVD!!! It just feels right...here's why...I jacked off to the opening of Robin Hood...I jacked off to seeing the nudie pic on the copter that has been blurred out on repeated viewings on USA and Spike TV...I jacked off to Paul Newman...I blew my load on King King AND THATS 3 HOURS LONG!!

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:51:24 AM CDT

    What you don't understand about George...

    by greigy just wanted to say

    "He's more machine now than man..."

    "He betrayed and murdered your childhood"

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  • Jun 11, 2007 10:01:51 AM CDT

    It's all moot, really

    by franklin t marmoset

    I continue to predict that Betamax will be back in a big way. For a start, the tapes are smaller! For a... um... second, I demand to one day sit and watch my battered four hour beta tape that has Airplane! and Enter The Dragon on it, just like when I was a kid.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 10:04:29 AM CDT

    Well if you want to get sentimental....

    by greigy just wanted to say

    What kids now don’t understand is that seeing Star Wars in 1977 (78 for UK) was a totally different film going experience. There were no Multiplexes, no booking online, no DVD screeners leaked out, no VHS, no Betamax, no fucking HD-DVD. You had to wait in line for HOURS… There was a genuine anticipation, which has never been re-created, not by Batman, or Jurrasic Park, or The Matrix, or even Episode I. The reason my generation is so wrapped up in the wonderful warm summer is because we remember waiting, and waiting, and waiting, getting a little closer to the entrance of the cinema, some more waiting, oh look LOBBY CARDS (remember those) then if you hadn’t died of dehydration getting to see what is a perfect machine of a movie. Back in the late 70’s you either played sports and thought “Yeah big deal”, or you had an active mind and someone, let’s just call him “George” put a stick of Dynamite between the ears of your imagination and went BOOM….. By the way the prequels have officially NOT happened. My therapist told me so.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 10:15:35 AM CDT

    BringingSexyBack...oh come on...

    by greigy just wanted to say

    Doesn't hearing

    "Did you hear that? They've shut down the main reactor. We'll be destroyed for sure, this is madness."

    Put a shiver down your spine

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  • Jun 11, 2007 10:25:35 AM CDT

    Choosing between the life you have and the

    by borgnine jr

    life you want. Is this the life you want Wyrm? Writing reviews for AICN? While working as third assistant co-night manager at Austin's 4th largest car wash? Tell me you got aspirations buddy. Ain't ya got any screenplays brewin' like the rest of your AICN bretheren? Maybe you want to write greeting cards?

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  • Jun 11, 2007 10:35:11 AM CDT

    Mets....

    by refuge5

    The Mets will bounce back...

    I look foward to seeing this movie

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  • Jun 11, 2007 10:38:09 AM CDT

    Star Wars was an amazing turning point

    by quake ii

    and I still feel that Star Wars is one of the greatest achievements in film history. Those (Lucas and his team) guys pulled off a small miracle getting that movie onto the screen and overcoming so many challenges. Basically they invented filmmaking techniques from day one and came up with new technology to get that story onto the screen. Fanboys say Empire is the best, but the FIRST Star Wars will always be my favorite. It's a near perfect film and still holds up today. Filmmakers today are lazy as they have everything available to them with computer programs. Model making is now a lost art as is imagination and drive.....

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  • Jun 11, 2007 10:43:15 AM CDT

    TOO SOON!!

    by pageiv

    What kind of movie is this?

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  • Jun 11, 2007 11:11:10 AM CDT

    Stop hating on Ewoks.

    by pwnedbystallone

    It's mean. You know you love them you heartless fuck.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 11:31:23 AM CDT

    So what is this big LOST TALKBACK scandal?

    by frijole

    The TB is HUGE. People the other day were calling Harry out for not responding to acknowledging something about it. So what is actually going on? Since I decided going in that I wouldn't watch any of the current season until it comes out on DVD, I've avoided reading ANY of the LOST TBs. But I'm curious what this big debate is.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 11:53:31 AM CDT

    so this is a movie about dreams?

    by sonnyhooper

    just wanted to be clear because, he only said it was about dreams 4 or 5 times, so i wasn't sure.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 11:54:22 AM CDT

    Frijole....

    by typingaway

    From what I recall,Harry posted an article claiming to know what happened in the 2 hour finale,he gave some clues,but basically said that it was too good to reveal what happens(don't worry,i wont spoil it for ye)This caused a lot of people to get upset.Claiming that Harry dangled this info over people,a kind of "I know something you don't know" attitude.A lot of people said he shouldn't have even published the piece.Why say spoilers,when you don't give any? I believe that when you see the word spoilers,it's up to the viewer to read it.I wanted to know,others wanted to know,but we weren't told.What happened next tho,was just rude.People began hijacking the Lost tb thread plus other threads,and in the subject line revealing spoilers of the season finale.Again,if it says spoiler,and you don't want to know--look away.But don't lower yourself and ruin it for others by not giving warning.That's what i remember......wait,should i have said "spoiler" before i started typing this? ;)

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  • Jun 11, 2007 12:16:34 PM CDT

    THE TYRANNY AND THE BULLSHITS GONE ON TOO LONG

    by theultrahumanite

    /join #DeathToAICN

    my love letter to this site when it was cool, and we could talk freely, about cool stuff, no militant jerkass nerdfucks in this chat, but they are welcomed, it makes for a spirited debate

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  • Jun 11, 2007 12:27:57 PM CDT

    militant jerkass nerdfucks

    by gride9000

    explain the difference between "cool stuff" and "militant jerkass nerdfucks". Why must these two groups fight. Are thy really that different? Is is environmental or genetic? What kind of militant jerkass nerdfucks would name himself "TheUltraHumanite"? Is that like a new Gatorade flavor?

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  • Jun 11, 2007 12:31:48 PM CDT

    love letter to GABRIEL GRAY

    by gride9000

    dear double G lova,I think your sarcasm transfers well when typed. I think you ar swell in general, and grils think you are really cute. You arn't an uncreative hack who bogs down the board with self indulgent crap, you are amazing. Can I make love to you soon?grideinthehizzle

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  • Jun 11, 2007 12:33:42 PM CDT

    Quake 2 you big silly

    by half vader

    I agreed with you until you ruined it all. Irony city - there were more models made for episode 1 than the 3 original trilogy movies combined. And more than that, do you even know what a Dykstraflex was? COMPUTER motion-controlled camera for the first flick that changed filmmaking. Then computers and ILM changed things again years later. Both computer technologies. To paraphrase Orwell it sounds like you're saying some computer technologies are more equal than others.

    Filmmakers are lazy because of computers?! No. Filmmakers were lazy BEFORE computers in that they had the easy out writing-wise of not having to give their imaginations free reign because hey, you couldn't realise that on screen anyway! Now that anything can be visualised the onus is on writers to step up creatively. It's not a CG package's fault that they're not measuring up. Why do you think we've seen so many comic book movies? Because the writing AND visuals/heavy lifting have already been mostly DONE for them!

    You obviously also payed no attention to people like Dennis Muren who all say the computer is absolutely no different to the old stuff creatively in that it's JUST A TOOL. Sorta like you (boom boom).

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  • Jun 11, 2007 12:35:54 PM CDT

    this movie

    by gride9000

    now that Ive vented, I'd just like to say, usualy fan/doc type stuff sucks. I think if done right this concept could be fun and make us remember some emotional shit about star wars and childhood. Gangsta!

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  • Jun 11, 2007 12:37:59 PM CDT

    half vader

    by gride9000

    smartist shit on the whole post right tha fuk avouve meee......

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  • Jun 11, 2007 12:42:13 PM CDT

    Franklin, I don't think there WOULD be less fat people

    by half vader

    'Cause Star Trek would still have happened. Heh. Also, I did a double-take when I read what I thought looked like "Anakin slaughters the baby Jesus". Doesn't get meaner than that.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 12:55:08 PM CDT

    Thank you, TypingAway...

    by frijole

    I appreciate the clarification. So now I have to get worried about assholes ruining LOST in OTHER talkbacks too? Jeez Louise!

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  • Jun 11, 2007 1:27:40 PM CDT

    So it's like Ben-Hur.

    by mgmontgomery

    It's not ABOUT Jesus, it's about a guy living the same time as Jesus, but Jesus still plays a major part in the movie.

    Only except Jesus, it's Star Wars.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 1:48:18 PM CDT

    5-25-77 is all about my 11th birthday.....prunes

    by jugs

    anybody? :)

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  • Jun 11, 2007 2:27:50 PM CDT

    first memory?

    by taco-island

    If your first memory is wondering why the movie had two suns, when did you have the memory of learning YOUR planet only had one?

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  • Jun 11, 2007 2:42:10 PM CDT

    WHERE ARE YOU MORIARITY MC WEENY

    by quin the eskimo

    with the Forgetting Sara Marshall stuff?

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  • Jun 11, 2007 3:29:04 PM CDT

    Paris Hilton has chosen Betamax

    by norseman1111

    I remember seeing Star Wars sometime in the Summer of 77 in Rehoboth Beach Delaware. We were on vacation and I remember the other movie that was playing was The Deep. My cousin and I still talk about how much fun it was to see those 2 movies as kids. The hot beach during the day and a cool movie at night.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 4:06:13 PM CDT

    "Anakin kills the Baby Jesus"

    by nadine_cross

    This made me laugh and laugh.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 4:36:10 PM CDT

    Fuck it. The pure joy of movies is dead.

    by performingmonkey

    Live in the past at your peril.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 5:18:28 PM CDT

    SWEET!

    by lost.rules

    Nice pic.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 5:19:05 PM CDT

    This film will be as COOL AS BALLS!

    by lost.rules

    Viggo's balls.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 5:45:56 PM CDT

    by half vader......Let me respond.

    by quake ii

    I am well aware of John Dykstra and Dennis Muren and all the ILM guys that eventually created big f/x companies (muren was loyal) to compete directly with ILM. That wasn't my point. To use your Muren quote, "Computer are a tool". They are now the biggest tool in the shed. In fact, the attitude is, "We can fix it in post production". So you didn't get my point at all. Look at the sci fi movies from 2001 up until the mid eighties. There was real creativity there. Story mattered because you couldn't try to "save" a shitty movie by dazzling the masses with pretty pictures like you can now. If you think Star Wars was created thanks to computers, well....You must be Stephen Sommers or some other modern hack that over CGI's every fucking scene (including my beloved George Lucas...R.I.P.). And thanks for the last line name calling. Let me try that....Ball licker.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 5:51:55 PM CDT

    by Halfbreedqueen..Wrong!

    by quake ii

    Back in the good ol days...movie fucking rocked! Name 5 "classic/near perfect movie to come out in the 90's...I'm waiting. Name 5 from the 70's...I can name about 20. Even the early 80's had fucking classics like The Thing, An American Werewolf In London, Raiders, Excalibur, Conan, Empire, Raging Bull, Stripes, Caddyshack...Fuck, I could go on. So you're wrong and that's fine. Accept your spitefulness and go watch one of your modern classics like....Well Munich was great as was Saving Private Ryan. So Spielberg still makes 'em I guess....

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  • Jun 11, 2007 5:54:39 PM CDT

    And Laserblast was made for 5 bucks....

    by quake ii

    and it was still entertaining. Especially to a 10 year old.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 6:16:18 PM CDT

    Massawyrm, we share an earliest memory...

    by darthcorleone

    I was two, and people give me a hard time about this claim, but, yeah, seeing Star Wars with my mother is my earliest memory.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 6:17:46 PM CDT

    That said, I was part of the Celebration IV crowd...

    by darthcorleone

    ...and, yeah, I didn't enjoy this film that much. And it's not because I was looking for some ode to Star Wars or a laugh-per-minute reference-fest. I am a general lover of film, and I think this should have worked for me. It just didn't.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 7:54:17 PM CDT

    Before the Empire...before the dark time.

    by syd mead

    5-25-77 story sounds like Lucas's pre SW hit American Grafitti. Living in a small bumble fuck town with an end date to leave. Hmmmm...always a hard decision... living in mom and dad's basement while working at the local car wash or move out and get a real job. Wow. Original. Hold it, that was also the story for Corvette Summer, the big hit of 1978. The 70's was a gutsy time for a certain handful of landmark movies like The Godfather I & II, Texas Chainsaw, China Town, Jaws, French Connection or the Excorcist, but face it, the majority of film releases from that pre-Star Wars 1970's era are unwatchable, sloppy, forgettable and painfully dull. Escape from Witch Mountain? WTF? As a kid I walked out thinking there had to be better. That's a huge reason Star Wars ruled. Try watching Earthquake or Logan's Run and not laugh your ass off today. And yes, I am one of those kids who grew up with the shiny candy apple red, banana seat three speed bike from the 70's.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 8:04:11 PM CDT

    Star Wars is my first memory, too

    by jack shepherd

    I was sitting in my parents' car at the 40 East drive-in in Columbus, OH. Droids were walking across the desert. I couldn't have been any older than one.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:12:24 PM CDT

    5-25-77 IS THE BEST MOVIE OF 2007!!!!!!

    by wackybantha

    Cynics and mean people stay home!!!

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:13:10 PM CDT

    How 'bout "gay as balls"...?

    by anti-fanboy

    Makes more sense. Anyway, nice review. Gonna see this.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:16:52 PM CDT

    Detroit Rock City.....

    by quake ii

    was a great 70's tribute movie that revolved around KISS, so why not one about Sci Fi?

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:24:20 PM CDT

    This was not a "review".

    by angry mean panda

    Reviews usually constitute analysis of a movie, be it on the narrative or technical level, in some way. This was just paragraph after paragraph of "I liked this movie because it relates to a personal experience." I kept reading in hopes you'd actually talk about the movie. You didn't. Fuck this review.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 9:44:30 PM CDT

    HERE'S MY REVIEW!!!!!!!

    by wackybantha

    THIS MOVIE RULES!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!!!!!!

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  • Jun 11, 2007 10:27:05 PM CDT

    Star Wars at the Drive-In.

    by bronx cheer

    Remember the Cantina song was a hit on Top 40 radio? Blew my mind. The movie was so different compared to anything else that had come out...it was the bledning of genres, the gee-whiz crack of it, damn it was fun...and innocent, and sweet, and simple. And Darth Vader was a malevolent bastard. None of this whimpering crap that Lucas pulled on us later. Screw him being Luke's dad. Screw redemption. Han shot first, and would again. Those two suns, that got me too.

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  • Jun 11, 2007 10:35:43 PM CDT

    I just saw taco-island's nitpick...

    by bronx cheer

    Let it alone. This is about nostalgia. I bet if each os us is honest then none of us can accurately state what our first memory was. By the time we need to know what it was we've already embellished it so much in our own head that it's usually something that never happened.
    But...if my first memory was noticing that there were two suns and my planet had but one, this is perfectly logical. I recall envying the character for living on a world with two suns...there were thousands of impressions prior to that, but the first memory that I have was experiencing that envy...which was based on my experiences prior to seeing the twin suns set in a movie.

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  • Jun 12, 2007 2:20:48 AM CDT

    Sigh, Quake2 let's try that again (big rant).

    by half vader

    If I missed your point then thanks for returning the favour. Remember the OTHER quote, the Animal Farm one? About you being disingenuous about computer technology and splitting hairs in a dishonest fashion to make the same old simplistic "good old days" argument? I guess you didn't communicate your point very well the first time around. Way to avoid the modelmaking thing, too.

    As for name calling, nice one mate. "big silly" and "boom boom" didn't tip you off that I was being lighthearted about it while simultaneously calling attention to your inaccuracies? But fair enough. The tool thing was just too easy. But with that said, maybe I could make an exception and go with your namecalling. Are we talking Viggo's balls (and should I put a winking smiley there for you) here?

    Computers are the biggest tool in the shed (it's so tempting, but I'll show restraint!). Of course, and for many many reasons. Like I say, you keep confusing the bad usage of the medium on the medium itself. If everyone wants to "fix it in the mix" how on earth is that cg's fault? It looks like you can't see the forest for the trees mate - you're saying the limitations of earlier technologies FORCED people to be more creative? I still say the problem was always and still is with the PEOPLE being creative, not the other way around. Why did ILM (let's keep it with them for the moment) keep winning oscars for years even though all the other big guys had alias/maya and softimage (and yes proprietary stuff too) too? The PEOPLE.

    Let's try another analogy. It's like your saying that officework and business in general is worse now because we don't have skilled workers who can really use those typewriters and it's not the same without the tactile sensation of the old stuff and the amazing filing systems and so on... When the most (not the only) important thing again is the end result and not how you got there or what you had to overcome to do it (notice I at no point diminish the skills of the people themselves). Things may be more and more digital but you're obviously ignoring things like economy of scale, budgets and practicality to make your little stand. Ah look. What's the point? Somehow you came away thinking I was saying "Star Wars was created thanks to computers". Never said it, and didn't even intimate as much. I said it couldn't have been done without them (and still change filmmaking) which isn't the same at all. Try reading what I actually wrote instead of reading IN to what I wrote.

    You need to sit down and listen objectively to people like Rick Baker, Phil Tippet and yes Dennis Muren who are geniuses of the old school who have brought the same lateral thinking and clarity to their modern digital age stuff and therefore are still at the forefront, computers or not. Muren realising you can just touch up a finished faulty frame with photoshop while modelers and coders are tearing their hair out about bad enveloping and ripping model seams? Brilliant. Tippet using D.I.D.s to ease stop motion guys into animating what will be the same cg output in the end (that one goes to Craig Hayes in a big way too I guess) and insuring that his guys are instantly the best CG animators around? Fantastic. Baker's design, brilliant in its simplicity of the Sherrif in The Frighteners which smoothly integrated old school and cg? Brilliant as usual.

    As for your reply to Halfbreed, God almighty man. Obviously you were (and I will be) quite subjective here as I find it hilarious you list Stripes and Caddyshack as 'near perfect' (and I do like Murray) and also Conan and personally don't think they're 'classics', but 5 for the nineties? And you're listing 'non-effects' films too (Raging Bull not really counting for prosthetics & Murray stuff which again muddies your original point) so...

    Trainspotting, Two Hands, Run Lola Run, 12 Monkeys, City of Lost Children, Toy Story, Waiting for Guffman, Being John Malcovich, Fight Club, Jurassic Park, Babe, Grosse point Blank, Silence of the Lambs, Leon/The Professional, Romper Stomper (better than American History X IMHO), Matrix, Once were Warriors, Proof, Shawshank, Schindler's, Sling Blade, Blade, Goodfellas, Groundhog Day (hey, if you can have stripes...), Life is beautiful, Seven, The Sum of Us, Nightmare before Christmas, The Piano, All about my Mother, Edward Scissorhands, Priscilla, 3 Kings. Oh. Did I go over 5? Did I go over 20?
    As for the supposed shit these days/this decade, what about Spirited Away, Eternal Sunshine, Snatch, Amelie, Donnie Darko, Master & Commander, O Brother Where Art Thou, yeah LOTR, Rounders, Iron Giant, Spidey 2, Incredibles, Mullholland dirve, Irreversable (definitely not just a 'trick' attention grabber with a stylistic/storytelling conceit) and Hedwig? Maybe you're looking in the wrong section of the store.

    Also, notice I never said I wasn't in love with the old stuff. I am, but at least I'm objective, and to bring it all back neatly and tie it in a bow, I saw Star Wars in 77 when I was 8, and yes I put my money where my mouth is and do work in the industry (and even with Star Wars stuff) because of it. And I use a boring old mechanical pencil at one end, and am full-on digital at the other. Which reminds me. I've blathered on with my pet hate too long and must get back to work.

    I'm sure we can agree on one thing though. George saying the original version of the first trilogy "don't exist" is an unforgivable slap in the face to those incredible modelmakers and technicians (with their COMPUTER controlled camera developed by a PERSON that YES made it possible to make such a leap) and how they changed everything in enabling filmmakers' and writers' imaginations. And knew all the tech was in service to character and story. A timecapsule is a timecapsule and should be properly preserved.

    Truce?

    Funny that George doesn't have the guts to wipe out Frank Oz's stuff completely though!

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  • Jun 12, 2007 2:31:18 AM CDT

    Err, sorry that was so huge. I've probably killed yet

    by half vader

    another thread. It's hard to tell how long things are with those pathetic little boxes.

    P.S. Does anyone honestly think the Zen Master Ray Harryhausen wouldn't have preferred finetuning and putting even MORE character into his incredible creations rather than the insanity of being tied to one-take, straight ahead stuff and the accompanying photochemical and movement-based restrictions? It's like that thing where all the art critics got upset with David Hockney and cried heresy for daring to suggest the old masters used optics. Again, forest for the trees. Stupes.

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  • Jun 12, 2007 4:04:54 AM CDT

    man...

    by zelusfin

    half vader i completely forgot what thread i was on after i read all of that. or what i was supposed to write to begin with.. let me get back to this....

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  • Jun 12, 2007 4:07:54 AM CDT

    oh ok, i remember

    by zelusfin

    i was just wondering, a lot of the geeks now a days and critics and sci fi lovers remember star wars as THE film of their collective childhoods. im just wondering, when kids today grow up, i wonder what movie they are going to remember. maybe lord of the rings but so many stand out. maybe the super hero flicks that seem to pop out by the dozen. but im really curious, what movie is this day and age opened wide the possibilities in the little brains of todays kiddies.

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  • Jun 12, 2007 4:26:46 AM CDT

    Heh; Zelusfin.

    by half vader

    Sorry mate!

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  • Jun 12, 2007 7:59:58 AM CDT

    Darth Vader has chosen HD-DVD. Here's Why

    by borgnine jr

    Because it is strong in the Force. Less disk space=more midichlorians.

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  • Jun 12, 2007 9:31:59 AM CDT

    obi wan convinces stormtroopers to choose hd-dvd

    by durhay

    "Blue Ray is not the format you're looking for"

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  • Jun 12, 2007 9:34:39 AM CDT

    The blue liquid that Aunt Beru makes intrigued

    by durhay

    me when I was little. I was so happy when Kool Aid introduced Blue Raspberry, because I could finally have a drink the same color as whatever Aunt Beru was making.

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  • Jun 12, 2007 11:01:36 AM CDT

    MiraJeff has chosen HD-DVD

    by spandau belly

    because it allows him enough space to store his longwinded plot summaries and endless name-dropping of Variety magazine.

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