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Of DEADWOOD Mastermind David Milch’s Latest For HBO, JOHN FROM CINCINNATI??

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It’s a supernatural comedy-drama, from “Deadwood” mastermind David Milch, about an exceedingly strange young man named John Monad who may secretly be Jesus or Starman or something. When he gets involved with a Southern California surfing dynasty, exciting levitation and resurrection ensue. Bruce Greenwood and Rebecca De Mornay play the grandparents of a teen. This serves as a bracing reminder that “St. Elsewhere” and “Risky Business” came along more than two decades ago. Others in the cast include the great Ed O’Neill and Luke Perry.

The reviews are mostly disparaging (a key exception being Entertainment Weekly, which gives it an A-minus). Still, just based on the premise and pedigree and the promos, I sense this series could attract a rabid and vocal cult following by the time its first season concludes.

The good news for "John From Cincinnati" is it won’t have to compete with new episodes of the Golden Globe-winning “Desperate Housewives,” which attracted many times the audience of “Rome,” “The Wire” and “The Sopranos.”

Time says:

… Its visuals are gorgeous and its mystical glimpses tantalizing, but its transcendence is more asserted than earned. We sinful mortals still want prosaic things like a story. Until John from Cincinnati provides that, it will float two inches above the ground, too beautiful and pure for this earth--or our attention.

TV Guide says:

… It rides a wave of idiosyncratic surrealism that may baffle, annoy and frustrate as many viewers as it enchants, amuses and mesmerizes. For now, count me in the former camp. …

USA Today gives it two stars (out of four) says:

… it's hard to imagine the show coming from anyone but Milch, imbued as it is with Milch's existential concerns and that fractured, sometimes impenetrable Milchian grammar so familiar from Blue. Unfortunately, it's equally hard to imagine who would want to watch it on a weekly basis — or whether there's any audience at all for a beach-blanket-bingo philosophical fantasy. …

Entertainment Weekly gives it an “A-minus” and says:

… The ceaseless ways in which Milch and Nunn challenge our expectations about how families, friends, and strangers are meant to convey their fealty to each other, along with some fine hard-boiled dialogue and fisticuffs, suggest great continuing pleasures. …

The Wall Street Journal says:

… Viewers may get their very own taste of hell throughout the first episode, which is something like being confined by mistake to a mental institution in a "Snake Pit" scenario, where all the inmates are screaming obscenities and bouncing off the proverbial walls. …

The New York Times says:

… not likely to fulfill the nation’s yearning to fill the void left by “The Sopranos,” or, for that matter, “Deadwood.” It’s more like “Big Love” or “Carnivàle,” smart, ambitious series that move unusual characters around an unfamiliar setting imaginatively and even with grace, but that never quite quit the surly bonds of serial drama. …

The Los Angeles Times says:

David Milch is the last guy I'd figure to bring back "Touched by an Angel" … Though it eventually catches a tail wind, "John From Cincinnati" is, in the early going, morose and claustrophobic. … Sometimes "John From Cincinnati" is a muddle, at other times rich drama and divine comedy. And sometimes it's all of that at once. …

The Chicago Tribune says:

It's only June, but I can confidently state that you won’t see a weirder show than "John From Cincinnati" all year long.… I’d tell you what “John” is about, if only I felt sure of, well, what it’s about. But after viewing three episodes, I don’t feel especially clued in. …

The Washington Post says:

Not until the last 10 minutes of the show do we finally get to see some fancy wave work, and unfortunately very little about the 40 minutes that precede this refreshing footage manages to make any appreciable sense. … there's no indication how many episodes of this series will have to be watched before any of it starts making sense. Come to think of it now, "For No Apparent Reason" would be a good title for the series -- at least as good as the self-consciously precious one it has. … Shows like "John From Cincinnati" are why the good Lord made remote-control clickers.

The Boston Globe says:

… Watching HBO's surfing drama "John From Cincinnati" is like sitting through a bad play at a tiny experimental theater. The dialogue is loud pretentious nonsense signifying nothing but the creative dangers of mimicking Sam Shepard , Edward Albee , and Samuel Beckett . And the acting is a psychic traffic jam, because the actors don't understand their characters, because their characters are no more than vague symbols of -- what? -- being, nothingness, and the fury of being nothing. …

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer says:

… the greatest of minds have been responsible for spectacularly regrettable mistakes. That is what we have in David Milch's new series "John From Cincinnati," a fresh floater in HBO's bathwater. … The only thing a person can be certain of after watching "John From Cincinnati" is this: Any die-hard "Deadwood" fan interested in keeping the veins in his forehead intact should not bother with it. Watching it will only make you want to hurt your television, and it's unkind and quite expensive to punish the messenger so harshly.

The Orlando Sentinel says:

… a lot like its title character: baffling, irritating, simply strange. … The correct surfing term for this show: Wipeout! … A pretentious and talky botch …

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:

… three episodes in, I started to buy into the world Milch has created. I don't understand it, I don't think I even really like it (almost all of the characters are damaged and rather unpleasant), but I am intrigued by it. (Enough to keep watching? We'll see.) …

The Hollywood Reporter says:

… intriguing but not entirely satisfying … David Milch, the genius behind "Deadwood," has enough creative savvy to bring charm and luster even to a story about an off-putting, dysfunctional multigenerational family steeped in surfing tradition, which is exactly what he does here. Between their boozing, drug abuse, whining and generally ugly dispositions, watching the Yost family is only slightly more enjoyable than a root canal. …

Variety says:

… even worshippers at the altar of writer extraordinaire David Milch are likely to find themselves bewildered and frustrated with the premiere, and two subsequent episodes only marginally improve matters.…

10 p.m. Sunday. HBO.








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I miss Carnivale.
by Boondock Devil
Jun 10th, 2007
03:52:59 AM
i dont know..
by bob oblaw
Jun 10th, 2007
04:09:23 AM
Why are they making a show about me?
by lost.rules
Jun 10th, 2007
04:21:25 AM
Supernatural?
by supertoyslast
Jun 10th, 2007
04:30:21 AM
Bring back Deadwood
by optimus122
Jun 10th, 2007
04:49:39 AM
It isn't surprising this has been met with negativity
by Angry Mean Panda
Jun 10th, 2007
05:34:47 AM
Eli Roth has chosen Betamax and here's why
by RokurGepta
Jun 10th, 2007
05:57:49 AM
Has anyone heard about Flight of the Conchords?...
by DanielKurland
Jun 10th, 2007
06:08:15 AM
i prefer describing the show as
by RokurGepta
Jun 10th, 2007
06:14:46 AM
Genre: pretentious garbage
by DynamixRo
Jun 10th, 2007
06:41:21 AM
Daniel Kurland
by paulrichard
Jun 10th, 2007
08:43:58 AM
the times name-dropped carnivale
by Holodigm
Jun 10th, 2007
08:53:22 AM
I usually don't believe in boycotts but...
by eppdude
Jun 10th, 2007
08:57:15 AM
what's the status on the "deadwood" miniseries?
by Toe Jam
Jun 10th, 2007
09:10:30 AM
The critics all seem to understand.....
by Mel Garga
Jun 10th, 2007
09:22:50 AM
Rebecca De Mornay is now 45 or so.
by TomBodet
Jun 10th, 2007
09:36:21 AM
Rebecca de Mornay was extra smoking in the Muskateer
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
Jun 10th, 2007
09:43:38 AM
eppdude, he didn't CHOOSE this over deadwood
by Holodigm
Jun 10th, 2007
09:49:04 AM
Does this show...
by chi3fhog
Jun 10th, 2007
09:49:08 AM
Mega Backlash
by caseylane
Jun 10th, 2007
10:02:54 AM
is Conchords
by INWOsuxRED
Jun 10th, 2007
10:27:33 AM
Milch's Last Stand?
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 10th, 2007
10:33:58 AM
Carnivale at the beach
by Mgmax
Jun 10th, 2007
11:02:04 AM
Holodigm
by Rebeck3
Jun 10th, 2007
11:31:15 AM
I miss Carnivale and I miss Deadwood
by Evil Hobbit
Jun 10th, 2007
11:47:41 AM
David Milch has chosen 480i and here's why...
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Jun 10th, 2007
12:21:09 PM
This crap instead of Deadwood.
by tristeele
Jun 10th, 2007
12:30:08 PM
I wouldn't subscribe to HBO for this.
by lfhlaw
Jun 10th, 2007
01:12:41 PM
Herc: Stop talking like Bill O'Reilly!
by Homer Goes DOH
Jun 10th, 2007
01:23:54 PM
Meh
by Birdys Piano Teacher
Jun 10th, 2007
01:24:43 PM
Can't they start cancelling soap operas?
by Jakes Nel
Jun 10th, 2007
01:29:00 PM
Conchords is worth the HBO sub
by TheGreatPumpkin
Jun 10th, 2007
02:21:30 PM
this makes no fucking sense
by jonboy83
Jun 10th, 2007
02:24:29 PM
Young Man Named Jon Monad?
by The Ender Smites Foes
Jun 10th, 2007
03:15:30 PM
NO, Holodigm, that's incorrect
by eppdude
Jun 10th, 2007
04:48:18 PM
I'll watch it and then decide
by FrodoFraggins
Jun 10th, 2007
04:59:48 PM
My HBO subscribtion ends tonight!!
by lost.rules
Jun 10th, 2007
05:33:27 PM
Screw HBO, Big Love, & John gimme SHOWTIME & FX
by 2for2true
Jun 10th, 2007
06:57:36 PM
HBO DVDs
by coolhanderik
Jun 10th, 2007
07:57:32 PM
"Kyle XY" anyone?
by Add to Friends
Jun 10th, 2007
07:59:00 PM
Milch/John from Cinn = Sorkin/Studio 60
by Add to Friends
Jun 10th, 2007
08:00:56 PM
If Rebecca De Mornay is around 45...
by WONKABAR
Jun 10th, 2007
08:05:35 PM
All these reviews are based on 3 episodes
by Great Czars Ghost
Jun 10th, 2007
08:59:22 PM
I'll take Deadwood over this show anyday
by NHRonin
Jun 10th, 2007
09:32:12 PM
After Sopranos
by Monkey Man Zero
Jun 10th, 2007
09:38:51 PM
AND
by Monkey Man Zero
Jun 10th, 2007
09:40:01 PM
After the first fifteen minutes . . .
by jocutus
Jun 10th, 2007
09:40:37 PM
Rebecca D still shacking up with Leonard Cohen?
by EvilWizardGlick
Jun 10th, 2007
10:11:10 PM
I gave up on it after 25 minutes
by Dr Hemlock
Jun 10th, 2007
10:11:50 PM
Why bitch about the foundation laying episode.
by EvilWizardGlick
Jun 10th, 2007
10:16:07 PM
Rebecca dehornay
by supersize
Jun 10th, 2007
10:16:49 PM
Uh, that was retarded
by WONKABAR
Jun 10th, 2007
10:17:05 PM
Actually...
by McFrye
Jun 10th, 2007
10:18:07 PM
Potential
by Darcher
Jun 10th, 2007
10:22:33 PM
After Curb's final season...
by NHRonin
Jun 10th, 2007
10:40:28 PM
Deadwood 4
by Add to Friends
Jun 10th, 2007
11:25:36 PM
Yeah, they should've kept Carnivale
by Freakemovie
Jun 10th, 2007
11:26:19 PM
re Add to Friends
by Freakemovie
Jun 10th, 2007
11:27:19 PM
What is it with Milch and the F word?
by memento108
Jun 11th, 2007
12:38:32 AM
And the character of John....
by memento108
Jun 11th, 2007
12:51:23 AM
what's Ed O'Neil got to do w/ this? Is he related to
by GQtaste
Jun 11th, 2007
01:07:56 AM
It ain't Deadwood, ya hoopleheads...
by OtisSpofford
Jun 11th, 2007
01:23:20 AM
HBO
by B Arthur
Jun 11th, 2007
01:25:17 AM
Also...
by B Arthur
Jun 11th, 2007
01:31:09 AM
Otis--- Drek?
by memento108
Jun 11th, 2007
01:37:24 AM
Um, explain?
by The Fanboy
Jun 11th, 2007
03:30:31 AM
Memento...
by OtisSpofford
Jun 11th, 2007
03:58:12 AM
I'm in Love...
by RokurGepta
Jun 11th, 2007
04:41:53 AM
I'm digging this....
by Angry Mean Panda
Jun 11th, 2007
04:48:09 AM
on the subject of John
by RokurGepta
Jun 11th, 2007
04:50:07 AM
favorite part so far
by RokurGepta
Jun 11th, 2007
06:15:13 AM
check out the official website
by RokurGepta
Jun 11th, 2007
06:20:47 AM
Is this Milch's way...
by Phimseto
Jun 11th, 2007
07:59:02 AM
Im with Hobbit
by grendel69
Jun 11th, 2007
08:24:36 AM
BTW
by grendel69
Jun 11th, 2007
08:25:28 AM
Monad
by Noetic Skein
Jun 11th, 2007
08:37:06 AM
Re: Interesting last name
by RokurGepta
Jun 11th, 2007
08:54:56 AM
I think I read this book before...
by PortnoysRevenge
Jun 11th, 2007
09:31:32 AM
i basically already said that exact thing
by RokurGepta
Jun 11th, 2007
09:34:39 AM
While I've yet to see John
by Lone_Gunman
Jun 11th, 2007
09:43:42 AM
Otis
by memento108
Jun 11th, 2007
09:47:55 AM
It's because this is cheaper to make than Deadwood
by Photoman
Jun 11th, 2007
09:53:41 AM
We just passed the 3000th
by Lone_Gunman
Jun 11th, 2007
10:21:30 AM
This show was shitty
by Neo Zeed
Jun 11th, 2007
10:33:45 AM
I could criticize the lead characters last name...
by KazamaSmokers
Jun 11th, 2007
10:36:01 AM
Making a show in which a man floats and no one cares...
by Neo Zeed
Jun 11th, 2007
10:43:57 AM
Cheaper than Deadwood??
by grendel69
Jun 11th, 2007
11:04:34 AM
THE TYRANNY AND THE BULLSHITS HAS GONE ON TO LONG
by TheUltraHumanite
Jun 11th, 2007
12:10:07 PM
A Song of Ice and Fire
by CatoTheCensor
Jun 11th, 2007
12:15:26 PM
ASOIAF
by ToneTone
Jun 11th, 2007
12:47:52 PM
7 or 8 New Shows in Development
by _Maltheus_
Jun 11th, 2007
01:40:38 PM
JFC spinoff already in the works.
by BillyPilgrim
Jun 11th, 2007
02:07:08 PM
Episodes Get Better
by secretcylon
Jun 11th, 2007
02:49:17 PM
ASOIAF
by B Arthur
Jun 11th, 2007
03:24:10 PM
I'll give it 'till the end of the month
by twitchinmonkey
Jun 11th, 2007
05:17:45 PM
After a day of Sopranos talking I sat down for...
by Evil Hobbit
Jun 11th, 2007
05:52:47 PM
I think its got legs
by B Arthur
Jun 11th, 2007
06:38:27 PM
Starman?
by lordgrimplemort
Jun 11th, 2007
07:12:46 PM
WTF was that?
by SkidMarkedUndies
Jun 11th, 2007
07:49:28 PM
I liked it...
by Forsakyn
Jun 11th, 2007
08:03:55 PM
Ice and Fire
by B Arthur
Jun 11th, 2007
09:27:47 PM
Give John a chance...
by Boxcutter
Jun 11th, 2007
09:39:24 PM
I've unlocked
by RokurGepta
Jun 11th, 2007
11:50:38 PM
Fuck John
by grendel69
Jun 12th, 2007
08:42:28 AM
I've watched all three episodes so far...
by Farley Flavors
Jun 28th, 2007
10:30:32 AM

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