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What Make The Critics Of DEADWOOD Mastermind David Milch’s Latest For HBO, JOHN FROM CINCINNATI??
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It’s a supernatural comedy-drama, from “Deadwood” mastermind David Milch, about an exceedingly strange young man named John Monad who may secretly be Jesus or Starman or something. When he gets involved with a Southern California surfing dynasty, exciting levitation and resurrection ensue. Bruce Greenwood and Rebecca De Mornay play the grandparents of a teen. This serves as a bracing reminder that “St. Elsewhere” and “Risky Business” came along more than two decades ago. Others in the cast include the great Ed O’Neill and Luke Perry.
The reviews are mostly disparaging (a key exception being Entertainment Weekly, which gives it an A-minus). Still, just based on the premise and pedigree and the promos, I sense this series could attract a rabid and vocal cult following by the time its first season concludes.
The good news for "John From Cincinnati" is it won’t have to compete with new episodes of the Golden Globe-winning “Desperate Housewives,” which attracted many times the audience of “Rome,” “The Wire” and “The Sopranos.”
Time says:
… Its visuals are gorgeous and its mystical glimpses tantalizing, but its transcendence is more asserted than earned. We sinful mortals still want prosaic things like a story. Until John from Cincinnati provides that, it will float two inches above the ground, too beautiful and pure for this earth--or our attention.
TV Guide says:
… It rides a wave of idiosyncratic surrealism that may baffle, annoy and frustrate as many viewers as it enchants, amuses and mesmerizes. For now, count me in the former camp. …
USA Today gives it two stars (out of four) says:
… it's hard to imagine the show coming from anyone but Milch, imbued as it is with Milch's existential concerns and that fractured, sometimes impenetrable Milchian grammar so familiar from Blue. Unfortunately, it's equally hard to imagine who would want to watch it on a weekly basis — or whether there's any audience at all for a beach-blanket-bingo philosophical fantasy. …
Entertainment Weekly gives it an “A-minus” and says:
… The ceaseless ways in which Milch and Nunn challenge our expectations about how families, friends, and strangers are meant to convey their fealty to each other, along with some fine hard-boiled dialogue and fisticuffs, suggest great continuing pleasures. …
The Wall Street Journal says:
… Viewers may get their very own taste of hell throughout the first episode, which is something like being confined by mistake to a mental institution in a "Snake Pit" scenario, where all the inmates are screaming obscenities and bouncing off the proverbial walls. …
The New York Times says:
… not likely to fulfill the nation’s yearning to fill the void left by “The Sopranos,” or, for that matter, “Deadwood.” It’s more like “Big Love” or “Carnivàle,” smart, ambitious series that move unusual characters around an unfamiliar setting imaginatively and even with grace, but that never quite quit the surly bonds of serial drama. …
The Los Angeles Times says:
David Milch is the last guy I'd figure to bring back "Touched by an Angel" … Though it eventually catches a tail wind, "John From Cincinnati" is, in the early going, morose and claustrophobic. … Sometimes "John From Cincinnati" is a muddle, at other times rich drama and divine comedy. And sometimes it's all of that at once. …
The Chicago Tribune says:
It's only June, but I can confidently state that you won’t see a weirder show than "John From Cincinnati" all year long.… I’d tell you what “John” is about, if only I felt sure of, well, what it’s about. But after viewing three episodes, I don’t feel especially clued in. …
The Washington Post says:
Not until the last 10 minutes of the show do we finally get to see some fancy wave work, and unfortunately very little about the 40 minutes that precede this refreshing footage manages to make any appreciable sense. … there's no indication how many episodes of this series will have to be watched before any of it starts making sense. Come to think of it now, "For No Apparent Reason" would be a good title for the series -- at least as good as the self-consciously precious one it has. … Shows like "John From Cincinnati" are why the good Lord made remote-control clickers.
The Boston Globe says:
… Watching HBO's surfing drama "John From Cincinnati" is like sitting through a bad play at a tiny experimental theater. The dialogue is loud pretentious nonsense signifying nothing but the creative dangers of mimicking Sam Shepard , Edward Albee , and Samuel Beckett . And the acting is a psychic traffic jam, because the actors don't understand their characters, because their characters are no more than vague symbols of -- what? -- being, nothingness, and the fury of being nothing. …
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer says:
… the greatest of minds have been responsible for spectacularly regrettable mistakes. That is what we have in David Milch's new series "John From Cincinnati," a fresh floater in HBO's bathwater. … The only thing a person can be certain of after watching "John From Cincinnati" is this: Any die-hard "Deadwood" fan interested in keeping the veins in his forehead intact should not bother with it. Watching it will only make you want to hurt your television, and it's unkind and quite expensive to punish the messenger so harshly.
The Orlando Sentinel says:
… a lot like its title character: baffling, irritating, simply strange. … The correct surfing term for this show: Wipeout! … A pretentious and talky botch …
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:
… three episodes in, I started to buy into the world Milch has created. I don't understand it, I don't think I even really like it (almost all of the characters are damaged and rather unpleasant), but I am intrigued by it. (Enough to keep watching? We'll see.) …
The Hollywood Reporter says:
… intriguing but not entirely satisfying … David Milch, the genius behind "Deadwood," has enough creative savvy to bring charm and luster even to a story about an off-putting, dysfunctional multigenerational family steeped in surfing tradition, which is exactly what he does here. Between their boozing, drug abuse, whining and generally ugly dispositions, watching the Yost family is only slightly more enjoyable than a root canal. …
Variety says:
… even worshippers at the altar of writer extraordinaire David Milch are likely to find themselves bewildered and frustrated with the premiere, and two subsequent episodes only marginally improve matters.…
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It'd be on it's what... 4th, 5th season by now?
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but then again, that was my first reaction to 'Carnivale' and 'Big Love' when they premiered their first episodes... Time will tell.
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I haven't heard much about this show besides it being a surfer drama from David Milch. 'Surfer drama' did not give me much hope, but 'David Milch' did. I had assumed that it would be naturalistic drama. Throwing in supernatural stuff makes it sound very odd. And not in a good way. But I will give it a chance because of Milch. I just hope he hasn't forestalled a proper conclusion to Deadwood in order to produce a self-consciously odd unsatisfying hodge podge.
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COCKSUCKING HOOPLE HEADS!!
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Jun 10, 2007 5:34:47 AM CDT
It isn't surprising this has been met with negativity
by angry mean panda
They've been running ads for the damn show for weeks and I don't know anyone who was able to decipher what exactly the show was about other than Surf Jesus.
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because Hostel Part II effing sucks
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I've seen some commercials for it, and it looks interesting, and I could really go for another HBO comedy that is really funny.
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a story about a family of surfers with a twist of "stranger in a strange land", shaken not stirred.
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Milch is not Lynch, and a tv series is not a movie. Also, scheduling the pilot right after "The Sopranos" finale can only hurt it.
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You can watch the Conchords pilot at myspace (for people who are wondering they have 18281 friends): http://www.myspace.com/conchords. You can also watch some funny at Youtube.
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albeit in a negative way, they still name-dropped carnivale. i'm there.
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FUCK this show. and fuck David Milch - the cocksucker. Choosing to go with a surfing show over DEADWOOD? It's fucking unforgivable.
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is that still going to happen, or did milch and hbo lie about that just to get us "deadwood" fans to stfu about the show being cancelled? i'm discouraged by these reviews of "john from cincinnati," because i thought milch would at least offer up something nearly as good as "deadwood," but i guess that's pretty fucking impossible.
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that sometimes a turd is just a turd no matter whose overrated ass it came from. We're expected to have patience enough to wait for this show to find itself? Bullshit, there's way too much competition for viewership, not to mention music, the internet and even books, if you're into that old-fashioned stuff. Running this immediately following the Sopranos finale will be anti-climactic to say the least.
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Jun 10, 2007 9:43:38 AM CDT
Rebecca de Mornay was extra smoking in the Muskateer
by col. tigh-fighter
movie. The one with the Brat pack and Tim Curry. Its true!
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deadwood was cancelled. and milch wasn't happy about that.
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employ liberal use of "Milch-speak?" I want my "anyways," "yeah huh?," and "Are they gnarly today, the waves?"
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And I'm part of it. I felt like Deadwood was taken away because TPTB saw a show with "hot young people" in the future and wanted to go with that. Forget great writing, bring on the OC.
I'm not watching. I haven't joined any group to boycott but I personally feel cheated so I'll just sit this one out. -
going to be two guys being wacky with guitars? I lose all interest when comics pull out a guitar. I've seen good reviews for that show, so I will give it a try. I just don't feel very connected to HBO anymore. When Curb ends, that will probably be the end of my HBO subscription.
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How about that David Milch fucking blowhard, huh? I'll tell you this son, you can mark my words, Milch and HBO developed "John from Cincinnati" and bought their "Deadwood" fans one good, longterm assfucking. You do not want to be a dirt-worshipping HBO-exec from this fucking point forward.Pardon my French.
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Didn't HBO already give us one white-trash-Messiah TV series no one understood? What on earth made them think we needed two?
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You're both wrong actually. HBO wanted more "Deadwood", but only if he would commit to a certain amount of episodes, "seasons". He wouldn't do it - because he was losing his interest obviously - and they want on to this apparent piece of crap Jesus surfing show.
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bring them back please! Looking forward to John.
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Jun 10, 2007 12:21:09 PM CDT
David Milch has chosen 480i and here's why...
by stereotypical evil archer
Why does HBO care about ratings? I thought they were about subscriptions and DVD sales; how about marketing? I want to buy Deadwood Happy Meals with Mr. Wu Mini Bobbleheads.
What's amazing is that HBO is making George R.R. Martin's A Game of Thrones into a show. It will be amazing, it will be cool, it will be groundbreaking, it will have a dedicated audience, HBO will cancel it.
HBO needs to let a series grow to 60 episodes and make some good money off syndication.
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Fucking Bullshit. Give us our wrapup movies.
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and those that do watch it. In 2 seasons, HBO will cancel this and you'll be bitching and moaning again about it or maybe it will be cancelled in one year. who know? who cares? Clues? Let's see. Carnivale, Deadwood, Rome, any others?
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Geeze, it's annoying. "What say you?" "What make the critics of BLANK". Stan Lee could get away with it. In the FRIGGING SIXTIES. You can't.
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Lost interest in Deadwood and I never had it for Carnivale. HBO's getting a little thin these days.
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I would like that very much...
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They (HBO)had a small premiere of sorts for the first episode here in Austin last Wednesday night at the Alamo downtown that I was fortunate enough to get into. It was only the first 30 min. episode (same as on MySpace), but it's smart and funny, without resorting to 4th wall camera-winking. It reminded me of something Wes Anderson would have made co-writing with the talent behind Arrested Development. Like another TB'er, I love me some Curb, but if Larry never comes back, Conchords will hold me over for now. For the TB'er that worries about guitars coming out, that doesn't happen here. The way songs are integrated into the show's events and their (Jermaine/Brit) lives only makes it that much funnier. Set the DVR for the 17th, my friends.
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deadwood and rome and carnivale are too expensive to produce so we'll shove out cheap crap like big love and cincinnati shit to fill out the lineup. i got an idea on how to save money hbo. just produce 500 more episodes of real sex. you dont have to pay the actors money and all period piece costumes are provided by the actors!
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Milch was negotiating with HBO over season 4 of Deadwood. But he also wanted to do JFC. Deadwood has a heafty pricetag per ep, and HBO said Milch could only do one of the two. So Milch let Deadwood slide.
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Iresubscribed to HBO for the sopranos Finale. And so I might as well watch this shows premiere. I stopped subscribing to HBO after they cancelled Carnivale without any kind of decent closure. I doubt I'll consider returning to HBO until the Deadwood miniseries. And I plan on mailing a letter explaining that.
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I'll miss you, Tony.
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HBO has fooled me for the last time. After losing Deadwood, Rome & Carivale, I decided to spend my $$ on Showtime - Dexter, M.O.H., Weeds, great shows all. IMO, even FX has shows that beat HBO down to the roots (Shield, Rescue Me, Sunny in Philly, Riches). Ain't got me no interest in Surfin' Jesus or Paxton's Polygamy. As of Sunday @ 10:00pm EDT, cancel my subscription.
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Why the hell are they so expensive? It's almost $100 for a season. Why would I want to pay that much if I don't even know if the shows are good? That's my excuse for never having seen Entourage or Deadwood. Flight of the Conchords is going to be awesome though, I watched the first ep, and it was quite funny, and they have several NY comedians in the show.
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which sounds about right...then the only way she could have a teenage "grandchild" of say, 15, would be if-- not only she herself had a child at 15, but her daughter/son also had a child at 15. Which would mean that if her "grandchild" were anything like the previous generations, then she's due to become a great-grand-parent pretty soon here. Ok, people behind this show, like, when you have to reach so hard make Rebecca De Mornay into the grandmother of teen...maybe you should just fucking cast somebody older in the the fucking grandmother part eh? Cuz, you know, 45 year old grand/great-grandmothers... so common in America...in 1907 maybe. In 2007 it's more common to see chicks in their 40's having their FIRST child. D00chbags, De Mornay must've been thrilled to find out who she would be playing. Not only do I not want to watch this show now, but I think would actually really like to punch the creators/writers, producers and casting-directors etc. of this show... in the face. Rebecca De Mornay as a teenagers grandmother...yeah, Risky Business is over 20 years old, but that is still the dumbest shit I've seen in awhile.
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I remember when Rome started the reviews of the first 3 episodes were bad as the show was going is lots of directions before finding it's footing. By the 4th and 5th episode is was some of the best stuff on TV in a long time but by then lots of people had left. Deadwood was great and I'm going to watch the full season of John From Cin just in case lighting can strike twice.
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And anyone who says any different sucks cock by choice.
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The should have just left the screen blank for another hour.
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Any show that doesn't show me Rebecca DeMornay's titties sucks balls. (Except shows I like that do not feature said titties.)
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I was already sick of hearing the name "Butchy". Can I possibly stand a whole series of that? Hmmmm . . .
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Last I knew she was hooked up with Leonard Cohen. I also thought he was on some monastery kick as well.
She did look nice and I was surprised no nudity.
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Cleaning the dinner dishes was more interesting.
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While JFC didn't grab me like Deadwood in episode 1 it was clearly laying the foundation for the rest of the season.
Didn't anyone catch John making random predictions during the fight scene?
And the pocket thing is pretty slick.
It has potential to be all out surreal and Twin Peaks characterization strange.
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She's more like 48 .Also really dug that show no idea what was goin on but I didn't care
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and like I said, the generations didn't add up. The "Botchee" guy doesn't seem credible as either De Mornay's son or that kid's dad. The kid should have been like, 18 or 19 and they should have just been his older parents rather than his grandparents. But then again nothing really added up on this show anyway. The fuck-ups were many. The "John" character, "fairy-Barry" It was already unusual enough setting the show in a beach-town, you didn't need to top it off with layer upon layer quirky-weird....dumb. We already have Boston Legal
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The reason Deadwood is done is because HBO only wanted to do six episodes in Season Four (which was always planned to be the last season, if I'm not mistaken). Milch wanted the usual 12 to tell the story, since he structures each episode as one day in the town's life. The only compromise that could be reached was Milch's idea of two two-hour films.
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Yeah I miss Deadwood, yeah I wanted more Rome, Sopranos was dissapointing, this has the potential to give us great characters a la Twin Peaks or Northern Exposure. Given the state of things on network TV and the fact that Showtime right now is vastly more interesting than HBO, I'll take what I can get. Ed O'Neill was fabulous and I love me some Luis Guzman. I will be turning in next week, but if you want to take make the Deadwood movies after this Milch, that'd be great.
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...I'm ridding my home of HBO. If this is the lame ass replacement for Deadwood, then count me out.
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It had its flaws (to be honest, I never really liked the entire Brother Justin storyline, which was like half the plot), but I still think about it sometimes. Some episodes were plain brilliant.
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Because if they're structured like movies instead of episodes, he can mess with the time frame and cover more ground than he could've with 6 episodes.
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I don't mind a FUCK here and there in my television or movies, but Christ, he uses the word more than excessively in this and Deadwood. Why is that? It's actually kinda annoying and distracting.
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Is he retarded or what? Are they gonna make him an alien or something? That'd be hilarious.
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them too?
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And it ain't Carnivale - much as I'd like either of those to return - but it IS Milch, and he is more imaginative and interesting than most of the crap on TV today... Have you seen what the top 10 shows are these days? Christ, who is watching that drek? Our house will be tuning in for more of JofC - hoping for another cool, offbeat hit like Deadwood, Carnivale, Dead Like Me, etc.
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This network is now pigeonholed in my view as the anticlimactic network. After the horrific ending to the sopranos, the only show on this expensive network that had a brilliant final episode was Six Feet Under. If youre already a fan of John From Cincinatti, be careful. HBO batting 1/5 in terms of finishing what they start in a proper fashion. What a fucking ripoff. Al Bundy was funny on this show though, so I hope we see more of him.
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This show really got the shaft by debuting right after the finale of the Sopranos. I was so pissed about that anti-climax I watched this show in a pretty bad mood, wondering if 15 bucks a month was 15 to many for this shit. JFC looks like it has potential, but all the reviews are saying exactly what I don't want to hear. That this show, like the last 3 seasons of the Sopranos has no definable purpose. I really dont have the stomach for more of this pseudo art television.
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What, like Lost, and 24 (ok, this past season was lame) and The Shield, and Rescue Me, and Heroes..and if we're staying on HBO, The Wire, Curb......if that's all drek, you just simply aren't watching fucking tv.
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So, was dude (I believe the character was John) able to "fly" or some shit? I believed the plausible hallucination theory until his own son could stand there and see him floating off the ground?
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First of all, I am a big fan of the Shield, Heroes, 24 and Lost... But my friend, YOU are sadly mistaken if you think these are the top-rated shows - check your paper - it's Survivor, American Idol, Deal or No Deal - all "reality" and game shows - no sophisticated adult dramas for most of Amurica, thank you... While I'd love to see many more seasons of the Shield and Lost (even tho' their creators claim finite arcs), you can bet a lot more crap will be broadcast than terrific shows like these...
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this show effing rocks the party that rocks the party
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So it will be cancelled soon with no decent resolution. Yep.
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uh he's clearly an Alien, his last name sounds french, whatever someone needs just so happens to be in his magic pockets.... he's a "stranger in a strange land"
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I just about died laughing when Barry was playing with his Teddy Bear, pretending to make him Surf, and then wipe out... HILARIOUS
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it's pretty trippy
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...of getting HBO to pony up for a full season of Deadwood?
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I miss Carnivale and Deadwood. Why have creativity when you can go for the mundane.
Instead were going to have 2 new HBO shows about people bitching and complaining about their relationships and in therapy. BS shows pandering to 40something women.
To quote Ari, Id rather stick needles in my cock than be subjected to that crap. Really, I mean who cares. If I wanted to hear people bitch and complain Id hang out with the people I work with. No thanks.
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Deadwood is the greatest show in the history of television.
Cocksuckers. -
Interesting last name:
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Wowzers, slap me and call me even more interested in this show... Thanks for the wiki link... VERY intriguing.... VERY
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John from Cincinatti = Stranger in a Strange Land.
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thanks
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While I've yet to see John from Cincinatti, but having a look at the synopsis of this show...well am thinking 'meh' but I'll give it a go. I aint gonna commit much to it, it'll probably get canned if I start liking it. By the way I like Carnivale, and look! it got screwed big style. Its been a while and I still have'nt gotten over it.
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Yeah, I guess I was tired or something, I didn't gather that you were talking about ratings, I thought you meant just popular opinion around these parts. Oops.
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It's all in the present day. No period costumes that EVERYONE has to wear...including the extras. No special sets they need to construct. It's made in So Cal so everyone is right there and no traveling. No huge stars so no big salaries. This all adds up to cheap cheap cheap cheap.
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We just passed the 3000th post mark over on the Lost TB. Ave it!
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The dysfuctional family stuff was pretty mundane and unoriginal. I don't really care to see how the mystical stuff pays off, since the main plot is soooo boring.
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..but that would just be a Monad knock.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Man, I kill myself sometimes. -
is not automatically deep. It's just lazy writing. It's just easier not deal with it and claim to be Twin Peaks-ish. If a man floated that would be the main topic of conversation for the rest of the century, not if some little kid should or should not surf! Who cares about a Family Channel plot like that anyway?
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That doesnt hold water since HBO has 7 or 8 new shows in development.
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YOU OLD FUCKING TRIVS, WHO BLOCKED MY CHAT ABILITIES.... feel free to come and defend yourself
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HBO is just going to tread water until ASOIAF, which will no doubt be the greatest television show in the history of the world.
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Winter is coming!
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HBO must really be retarded if they think I'm going to wait around for those new shows. All they had to do was keep around Deadwood, Carnivale or Rome. Just one of them would have kept me from canceling my subscription tomorrow. So many people are going to be canceling their subscriptions, that they won't have the money for those new shows. But watch, some dipstick over at HBO will finally catch on (that show cancellations lead to subscription cancellations) and keep John from Cincinnati on for ten years despite the fact that nobody likes it. That's the one show that would have been ok to cancel. Big Love is ok, but it's not enough to keep me around. It'll feel so good to dump HBO; I can't wait to hear about the first exec that loses his/her job over the declining subscription rates.
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Eli from Long Island. A mystical rollerblading rabbi brings families together by turning them into werewolves.
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I've seen the first three episodes. Did not like the first one AT ALL. Had to watch episodes 2&3 and thought they were MUCH better. I also know they had a hard time wiht the 1st episode and had to re-shoot it a bunch of times. It seemed dangerous to me that they were premiereing with the worst episode of all. The family story is definitely bad but somehow everything starts to come together over t e next 2 eps.
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This will no doubt be something great and something never seen before. My hope is HBO gets behind A Song Of Ice And Fire and gets it a 100-150 mil budget and commits to producing a seven year run. hbo has a 3 billion dollar revenue stream but it still seems to be stuck in the late 1990 when it has less than half the subscribers. Where are the new series? ASOIAF would be perfect for the network. I cannot wait!
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It's definitely no Deadwood (though we did get a couple of "cocksuckers" and an appearance by Ellsworth). I wasn't blown away by the first episode of Big Love either, but I stuck with it I ended up liking it a lot more then I expected, I'm hoping that'll be the case with JFC as well. Oh, and Rebecca DeMornay is 47 (48 in August...Thanks, IMDB), so if she had Butchie at 17 and he had Shaun at 17, the math works.
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..John and watched the first episode. I was quite impressed. It's very lovely, surreal and sweet with some very inspired acting. I mean, Ed O'Neill!!! Fantastic
I loved it from the first moment, the main titles are amazing, with the nostalgic super 8 footage. The characters are introduced with great care and at the end of the episode your already rooting for them.
I still think it's not something that should have replaced Deadwood, some scenes in John had Milch and thus Deadwood written all over it. And if I'm not mistaken the appearance of mister Ellsworth made me drool for more Deadwood. But it's still great stuff and once again Milch is turning cursing into art. But at some moments I just couldn't help but feel as if I was watching Deadwood on the beach. Some characters seem to have walked straight out of Deadwood. Like the Willie Garson character is almost identical to Jeffrey Jones A. W. Merrick.
Overall though I'm looking forward for more John. It's a loveable series that could grow into a great one. I only wish it would have run besides Deadwood and not replacing it. -
Well, I watched it again and purged my mind of all things negative about the Sopranos finale. This is much better than Big Love, much better. Al Bundy is still funny after a second viewing and kinda makes the show for me. HBO did a real disservice to this show by having it premiere right after Sopranos. I have yet to talk to a single person who even thought the finale was OK... so there is simply no way people were not looking at JFC with a negative frame of mind. Demornay may have been slightly over the top, but I thought she made a good cracked out grandma, and the teddy bear scene is good as a standalone.
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I watched the show today, so the Sopranos finale didn't affect my opinion of it and I thought it was pretty awful. The floating, bird ressurection, flat tire at exactly right time and place, etc. seem to be caused by John, because the characters don't act like this stuff has ever happened before, so what is John supposed to be. Some people guessed Jesus, some say alien, but I don't think either makes any sense when you see that John acts like he's retarded. I remember the movie Starman where Jeff Bridges acted kind of the same way until he got used to how people act, so maybe they're just ripping that off. And that guy with the gun--they're going out of their way to make him "quirky" but it comes off as just stupid. I'll probably watch next week because they were smart enough to start this show at a time when every other show I watch is off for a long time, but I doubt it will become a must see show. I predict it won't last long. On another topic, what's this Song of ice and fire people are talking about here? I haven't heard of it.
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Oh well.
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Yeah, I don't know what's really going on yet, but I liked the first episode, and hope the show continues on for a while. It's good to see actors like Bruce Greenwood and Ed O'Neill getting a fair share of the focus (and I hope this is generally the case). Took a little while to warm up to Shaunie (his hostile obscenity-ridden dialogue was a bit overdone), but I don't mind him now. The grandson is pretty bad at acting, though - although I guess he meets his demise soon enough. I'm guessing they grabbed him because he is quite talented at surfing in real life. I don't know how long this kind of show can run overall, but it looks to be entertaining.
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A series of novels written by George RR Martin. They are a cross between Deadwood, and Lord of The Rings. It is a fantasy series, but the fantasy elements are a backdrop. In fact, as I recall the first book only has 2 or 3 scenes involving fantasy. The books are extremely well written and not for children. Theres sex, crass language lots of gore... its basically perfect for an HBO adaptation. Go out and buy the first book, and you will be hooked.
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Watched the pilot, still fizzing from the Sopranos finale (IMHO it was fitting), so didn't really pay attention and tuned out about 30 mins in. Watched it again tonight and Ep 2 On Demand...and there's something there, definitely. OK, if it turns out to be one-note and disappointing like Carnivale and Big Love (bring on the flamers), I'll eat it, but Milch's dialogue is too whipsmart and his cynicism too bone-bred to let this thing degenerate into Point Break-meets-It's A Wonderful Life whimsy. Surely? Anyway, HBO still gets my sub. Cheer up, you bastards. We have the Conchords (funny and charming), the Deadwood closers (God willing), some interesting newies in the pipe, and of course, the final season of the best thing Albrecht and co. ever gifted us - The Wire...
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over 30 videos, and 6 soundfiles from johnmonad.com, a fair ammount of them are not stuff we've seen or heard yet from the broadcast episode... pretty nifty site.. I LOVE THIS SHOW
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.. and the commitee that receives em.
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and for better or worse, I think I'm hooked.
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