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Roy calls Memflix a liar, and says FF:ROTS Kicks Ass! Is He Just A Fox Stooge?

Hey folks, Harry here again... Exchanged emails with Memflix and when asked if Galactus actually appears in his classic form, here's what he said:

Galactus reaches earth. It is a swirling cloud of galactic and cosmic debris. The Surfer flies up into the cloud, and for a brief moment, something resembling the comic book, an outline of a face is seen. The Surfer throws his arms out and radiates a bright light. The Surfer and the storm cloud implode into nothingness. It was a horrible resolution to a beloved story.

Hey folks, Harry here... Memflix has provided reviews in the past and has been accurate, but here we have a UK reader that challenges that review and shares spoilers that directly contradict Mem's review. We'll have to wait and see who is right, but I'm hoping Roy is, as a badass FF movie is what I would love to see - especially if Tim Story is doing THE LOSERS next. Here ya go... Spoilers Galore...

harry - I just came from a UK screening at Leicester square and Memflix couldn't be further from the truth. First, I seriously doubt Memflix actually saw the film -there is not ONE thing in his "review" that is not in the trailers, or the novel. He just wants to be the first to dump on the film. I asked this guy from Fox about other screenings and he said this was the first screening ANYWHERE, so I know Memflix is lying and trying to seem like he’s got the goods. To prove I actually saw the film, I will give up some spoilers – first, they show us shots of the real Galactus in this film. Not a cosmic storm, but the horned badass we all wanted to see. You see him several times, including when the Surfer goes into him at the end of the film and you see the helmet full on. Another spoiler, at the very end of the film (in the middle of the credits) there is a shot that promises a stand-alone SS movie. The Surfer has momentarily beaten Galactus and the last shot of the movie shows him hovering around earth. Want another one? Johnny steps up and becomes a real hero at the end of this one. He puts aside his ego and takes on ALL the FF's powers and beats the crap out of Doom. Another one? Doom comes back from Latveria and teams with the FF to defeat the Surfer. Julian McMahon is excellent - he really becomes Doom in this one. After the FF and Doom capture the Surfer, the Surfer tells Sue about his past and about how she reminds him of his love on Zenn-La and how he serves as the herald in order to spare his world. The plot is straight from the origins of the Surfer – he has come to earth to prepare it for Galactus but the FF’s humanity re-awakens that last part of Norrin Radd within him. BOTTOM LINE: IT'S ALL IN THERE. This film is COOL AS BALLS. This film is such a BIG step up from the first film. The action kicks ass and the FF step up to save the world. There are 5 BIG sequences, including one where they save our beloved London Eye from toppling into the Thames. That got a big reaction from this crowd. It's got the Fantasticar doing some great stuff, including a sweet bit where it splits into pieces to avoid Super-Doom (who has taken the power cosmic). It's got a HOT Jessica Alba. Chiklis IS Ben Grimm. Memflix is just a hater. Go see the film. I had a great time, so will you. Roy Stalin
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  • June 10, 2007, 3:40 a.m. CST

    yeah right..

    by bob oblaw

    this movie looks even shittier than the first one viewed thru beer goggles!!!

  • June 10, 2007, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Plant!

    by paax

    Nice try.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:41 a.m. CST

    flames on a plant just called

    by AvonBarksdale

    just kidding. hope your right but I'm doubtful

  • June 10, 2007, 3:41 a.m. CST

    oh, and by the way..

    by bob oblaw

    ahem.... PLANT!!!!!!!!!!!.. thank you..

  • June 10, 2007, 3:43 a.m. CST

    the wheel - deffo plant

    by 20goto10

    no londoner would have cheered, we are far too reserved!!!

  • June 10, 2007, 3:44 a.m. CST

    There's a chance I might like this movie. Here's why.

    by Boondock Devil

    It's like someone has been threatening to take hot needles and jab them into your nuts so many times that you wish for death. Instead you just get a swift kick in the nuts. That sucks and hurts like hell but after expecting the worst possible outcome it seems so much better. I suppose we'll see this weekend if I'm getting jabbed or just kicked.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:45 a.m. CST

    The fact that Roy thinks Julian

    by comedian_x

    McMahon "really becomes Doom" I think speaks volumes about his opinion. Memflix mentioned the heart-to-heart between Surf and Sue, which wasn't in the trailer, so I don't think he was lying.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Eli Roth has chosen Betamax and here's why

    by RokurGepta

    because Hostel Part II effings sucks

  • June 10, 2007, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Anyone who uses the word "hater" has no credibility

    by IndustryKiller!

    It implies that anyone in opposition of a "hater" is an apologist who wants to love hte film no matter the flaws. And especially with the leafy nature of the review I think I'll just skip this one in theaters altogether just like I did the first, which After watching it on cable I gave myself a nice pat on the back for. I especially find it hard to believe that Julian Mcmahon BECOMES!!! Doom as his portrayal in the first film couldn't have possibly been further off.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:49 a.m. CST

    I've taken my belt off memflix...

    by Boba Fat

    now you get in here!!

  • June 10, 2007, 3:50 a.m. CST

    yeah yeah

    by Zach_Talks_Back

    I don't care whar either one these schmucks say.... wheres the real review already?

  • June 10, 2007, 3:51 a.m. CST

    HAS ROY EVER STEERED US WRONG BEFORE?

    by The Grey Ghost

    Let's not bite the hand that feeds us here.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:56 a.m. CST

    Grey Ghost. You're right.

    by Boondock Devil

    I feel like a complete ass for not trusting Roy. All he has to do is jump off the nearest bridge and I'm stepping off right after him. Viva la Roy!

  • June 10, 2007, 3:56 a.m. CST

    I believe the term is: 'planty mcplant'

    by Seph_J

    I mean, I hate people shouting PLANT in every tb, but come on. This guy.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:59 a.m. CST

    "Chiklis IS Ben Grimm."

    by darth girlfriend

    Because in the comics, Sue Storm was taller than The Thing.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:01 a.m. CST

    P-L-A... N-T-Y...

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    This-guy-is-a-PLANT!<p>Does Tim Story and the gang REALLY think we're that stupid??? Seeing as he's been trying to pass Jessica Alba as a member of the Aryan Nation for the past two movies... apparently so.<p>Ass.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:01 a.m. CST

    PLANT PLANT PLANT PLANT PLANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by lost.rules

    I'M CALLING YOU OUT TIM STORY!!!!!!!!

  • June 10, 2007, 4:03 a.m. CST

    I DON'T TRUST STALIN!

    by lost.rules

    HE'S A COMMUNIST, FUCKHEAD!

  • June 10, 2007, 4:05 a.m. CST

    even if all of the bullshit in this review was true

    by troutpencil

    The movie would still be fucking garbage, because it would still be like the first one with the same cast, director, production team, etc., and the first one is one of the worst big summer blockbuster movies ever. You are fucking embarrassing to triumph this, Harry.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:06 a.m. CST

    Kira the Gelfing IS Susan Storm.

    by Boondock Devil

    I've heard from the same sources that Roy talks to that Jessica Alba really wasn't even on screen for Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. Fox just used Kira, the gelfing, from The Dark Crystal and then had Jessica Alba dub her lines. Brave filmmaking indeed.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:06 a.m. CST

    comedian_x

    by Drworm2002

    There was a part of the film online where the Surfer and Sue was talking.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:06 a.m. CST

    I wonder what Roy Hitler thinks of the film...

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    He probably liked it too. Roy bin Laden, however, wants to wait until it comes out on HD-DVD...

  • June 10, 2007, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Videogames are more accurate...

    by iwontwin

    Yes, Marvel:Ultimate Alliance did an amazing job of using the surfer and galactus, much better than what i imagine is in the film. Still, I cant wait to see an actual galactus on screen, and every preview of the film has it to be a great popcorn film.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:08 a.m. CST

    This film is COOL AS BALLS

    by lost.rules

    It's got the Fantasticar doing some great stuff, including a sweet bit where it splits into pieces to avoid Super-Doom (who has taken the power cosmic). It's got a HOT Jessica Alba. Chiklis IS Ben Grimm. Memflix is just a hater. Go see the film. I had a great time, so will you. .....YOUR WORDS STALIN, NOT MINE! OH, AND YOU WOULD THINK BALLS ARE COOL WOULDN'T YOU?

  • June 10, 2007, 4:13 a.m. CST

    "Cool like da udder side o da pillow"

    by Dr Gregory House

    Maybe Stuart Scott should change it up a bit to "cool as balls"

  • June 10, 2007, 4:14 a.m. CST

    Marvel should go the CG route instead of live-action.

    by Boondock Devil

    iwontwin is right on track about how cool the characters looked in the Marvel videogame. So cool that if Marvel was smart they could funnel a fraction of the cost for live-action movies into doing faithful productions of CG movies ala TMNT. FF just has not worked at all as a live-action series but with the correct writers on board for an animated cg-movie that doesn't feel the need to dumb down it's characters for the kids it could be good stuff.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:18 a.m. CST

    The sad thing is that I'm going to pay money to see it.

    by Boondock Devil

    Just the same way I paid money to go see Ghost Rider. Although I could say that I was just slightly pulling for Ghost Rider because the director is a local guy and I can't help but want him to succeed (which I hope he can do with Preacher on HBO) and I'm an unapologetic comic book fanboy. I do have to admit that if the Galactus bit is true and that he's really in the movie looking like he stepped out of the comics that it'd be one of the best kept secrets ever as far as nobody else ever seeing him.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:26 a.m. CST

    7000 MySpace friends can't be wrong

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    can they?

  • June 10, 2007, 4:27 a.m. CST

    I like BIG BALLS, and I cannot lie.

    by lost.rules

    You other brothers can't deny. That when a guy walks in, with the round things in your face, you get sprung!-Roy Stalin

  • June 10, 2007, 4:27 a.m. CST

    "Cool as Balls"...lmao

    by Mike_D

    thats the new "Kurt Russel laughed so I knew it was okay to laugh too".

  • June 10, 2007, 4:28 a.m. CST

    Interesting review...

    by Reelheed

    can't really see how the film could possibly be a massive leap from the first given the fact that it has the exact same team. I'm not expecting anything other than mediocraty. I'll wait till Massawyrm gives us a review before I make up my mind to and if he can't be bothered - well then neither can I.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:31 a.m. CST

    If Galactus is really in the movie

    by Toby___Wong

    and isn't a cloud I wonder how large he will be. Galactus needs to be motherfucking big. As long as he is not a cloud the movie will be cool.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:41 a.m. CST

    Sounds like fanboy reaction to the first X-MEN trailer

    by Thick McRunFast

    They cried like bitches after seeing that, then took it all back when they saw the film. I'm getting really tired of fanboys; they seem to have only two settings: SUCKS and RULES. I'm a lot more inclined to believe this review, if only for all the tools yelling "plant".

  • June 10, 2007, 4:41 a.m. CST

    IndustryKiller! SUCK MY CUNT!!!!!!

    by Playkins

    Why even bother telling everyone that you're NOT going to see it? Wow. Absolutely amazing swinging dick there, fucker. What else do you NOT like that you want to tell us about just in case we care?

  • June 10, 2007, 4:48 a.m. CST

    PLANT...PLANT....PLANT...PLANT.....

    by DECKERS

    ...there ya go, just counted, four pot plants in my house.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:53 a.m. CST

    HUGE PLANT

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    trust me, I know. Tim story and brett Ratner should make a baby...and that baby's name would be T3 rise of the machines. have a good night

  • June 10, 2007, 5:14 a.m. CST

    I have proof of hydroponics

    by darrenspool

    were used in the writing of this review.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:15 a.m. CST

    PLANT? I THINK NOT!!!!!!!!!!!

    by J-Dizzle

    Why the fuck would a plant give a huge spoilers like that? Seems kind of illogical to me.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:18 a.m. CST

    That review was written by an American

    by ElPaw

    Cool as hot ass balls indeed.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Listen to Roy, he can ski the K12!

    by Flim Springfield

    <b>

  • June 10, 2007, 5:31 a.m. CST

    As I Said...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... Fox has been screening the film. The UK screening was certainly not the first time it was shown anywhere.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:48 a.m. CST

    Is Stephen King Ever Going to Finish Writing..

    by Internet Thug

    The Plant?

  • June 10, 2007, 5:56 a.m. CST

    I call bullshit on this review

    by Cillit BANG

    This prick is telling people what they want to hear. <br><br>I doubt Memflix would sully his reptution by fabricating a review just for the sake of being first. This is on par with that bogus review Boozy did for Stardust a few months back. Didn't think we'd forgotten about that did ya?

  • June 10, 2007, 5:58 a.m. CST

    Ain't it fucking typical...

    by PoweredUpPacman

    ...guy comes in and says FF2 is shit, and everyone buys into it with a big fat "I TOLD YOU SO!!", even though nothing his 'review' never even remotely explained exactly WHY the movie was shit, other than just saying it was. Then another guy comes along and says guy no.1 is a liar. He explains WHY guy no.1 is a liar (although I didn't trust his "Doom is cool" remark), but he still gets branded as a fucking PLANT from the get-go. I'm not saying either one is right or wrong, but I guess the only way to be heard on this site is to be a complete dick and just shout as loud as you can that everything is complete fucking shit, and then call it a 'review'. Wich reminds me: I saw Hostel Part 2, and I thought it FUCKING REEKED! Please post my review Mori!!

  • June 10, 2007, 6 a.m. CST

    HEY AICN, I"M GETTING TIRED OF...

    by Boober

    reveiws being posted and you aren't sure if the source can be trusted. This just in, Cumpston says that "cool beans" are much better than "cool balls"...and they are edible too! Even if your Scrotum is designed to hold your balls away from your body to keep your sperm cooled to a more ideal temp. We all know women want the silver bullet and it s rocky mountain freshness!

  • June 10, 2007, 6:07 a.m. CST

    Spiderman 3. That movie was COOL AS BALLS!

    by lost.rules

    So was POTC3. So was Shrek the Turd. All these summer movies are COOL AS BALLS!

  • June 10, 2007, 6:08 a.m. CST

    "cool as balls" ?

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    you mean sucking royal monkey dick, do you?

  • June 10, 2007, 6:13 a.m. CST

    I THINK FINAL FANTASY:REVENGE OF THE SITH LOOKS AWESOME

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    Whats wrong with you guys!?

  • June 10, 2007, 6:15 a.m. CST

    "flies into him" how homoerotic of you...

    by Tallguyme

    ... Mr. Story.

  • June 10, 2007, 6:16 a.m. CST

    oops, sorry.. the quote is:

    by Tallguyme

    "goes into him at the end of the film and you see the helmet full on." Brokeback Galactus.

  • June 10, 2007, 6:31 a.m. CST

    cool as balls?

    by themidnighter23

    how is that good?

  • June 10, 2007, 6:36 a.m. CST

    "goes into him at the end of the film and you see...

    by Talkbacker with no name

    the helmet full on" . hahaha I didn't get that when reading it the first time. This guy is either a lying jokester or a genuine reviewer confused subconiously with his sexual orientation. Either way we are no closer to the truth if it's 'the' Galactus or a stupid cloud.

  • June 10, 2007, 6:38 a.m. CST

    Balls

    by Jakes Nel

    "I like you. You have balls... I like balls." Invisible Woman's invisible panties to the first man who tells me what movie that's from. C'mon, it's easy.

  • June 10, 2007, 6:41 a.m. CST

    After reading that review again

    by Talkbacker with no name

    I'm pretty convinced this guy is talking shit. For one thing he says of memflix "there is not ONE thing in his "review" that is not in the trailers, or the novel". Well this guy says 'the' Galactus is in the movie but I thought I read that in the novel it was the cloud. Also the 'only screening' bit is a total lie. I want this to be great, don't get me wrong but I also don't want some lying chump to get my hopes up too much.

  • June 10, 2007, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Re: Jakes Nel

    by Negative Man

    <p>Team America: World Police.</p><p>I expect the underwear to be visible and have a life sized clone of Jessica Alba in them.</p>

  • June 10, 2007, 7:13 a.m. CST

    What is it with Fox and plants?

    by Ribbons

    I don't know if you guys monitor TalkBacks as well, but just so you know, this (among other things/people...) is why you have so little credibility among fanboys. Anyway, this movie is probably going to make $100 million regardless of what we think.

  • June 10, 2007, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Well that settles that, I WILL steal this movie!

    by Horseflesh

    Thanks!

  • June 10, 2007, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Negative Man

    by Jakes Nel

    Congratulations, buddy! Invisible panties on their way. But I'm keeping Jessica.

  • June 10, 2007, 7:22 a.m. CST

    Another nail in this sites coffin?

    by metaluna

    Who are we meant to believe now? This guy who says this film is great and worth your money to see it, or some other talkbacker/reviewer who trashed it? Both claim to have the drop on this movie and the same goes for just about every other 'review' or recommendation this site seems to put out. Seeing as how Harry and the rest of the regulars seem to be in the pockets of their film making 'friends', who are we to believe now? Some guy off the street who stumbles across a test screening? and decides to write a review on here? No credibility.

  • June 10, 2007, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Confused now

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    Confused now. Dont know who to believe.

  • June 10, 2007, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Both Are...

    by Mad-Maximus

    ...either wrong or right, I do not fraking care. I will see this regardless, the only opinion is the one who pays for my movie tix and thats me! Make Mine Marvel!!!

  • June 10, 2007, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Dammit Flim Springfield

    by Dominic-Vobiscum

    I was going to make a K12 reference and you beat me to it.<br><br>

  • June 10, 2007, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Stop the damn fake reviews

    by viranth

    So it's obvious that one of the FF reviews are fake, which one is it? AICN get your shit together and beat the crap out of these liars!

  • June 10, 2007, 7:42 a.m. CST

    Veracity

    by Dominic-Vobiscum

    I gotta go with Memflix's review as sounding like the one that's more likely to be true.<br><br> There's nothing in THIS review that couldn't have been gleaned from the exact same sources he accuses Memflix of getting his facts from. <br><br> But what really clinches it is the accusation that Memflix is a liar because of the "first and only screening" comment, which Mori has already proved to be incorrect.

  • June 10, 2007, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Cool as Balls?

    by Dr Lisa Cuddy

    ZOMBIE BALLS

  • June 10, 2007, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Dunno who to believe

    by mr teaspoon

    I don't doubt Memflix. But do plants usually spoil such major plot points?

  • June 10, 2007, 7:48 a.m. CST

    "our beloved London Eye"?

    by raw_bean

    Now I'm from London, but I've never seen *any*one from *any* part of the country who gives much of a damn about the London Eye, let alone to describe it as 'beloved'. That and all the (retarded teenager) American slang leads me to one of two possibilities:<p>1) it's a fake, or<p>2) this guy's a tool. Possibly both.

  • June 10, 2007, 7:51 a.m. CST

    Back?

    by KillianXX

    Ami back? i will see FF anyways

  • June 10, 2007, 7:53 a.m. CST

    This film opens in Ireland in June 15th

    by emeraldboy

    They havent been showing screenings here.

  • June 10, 2007, 7:54 a.m. CST

    I'm off to do laundry now. That experience will be

    by Bronx Cheer

    more interesting than the fight between Memflix and Roy. Opinions can't be wrong, and since the vast majority of people on the planet do not give a damn about the Fantastic Four or whether the sequel betters its predecessor, I am going to stand in league with them.</p> <p>Why do people argue about the vast suckage of a film they have not seen? I understand the mortal dread or jubilant expectation over a film that is soon to be viewable in a multiplexus near you, but for those of you who chose to actually argue the merits of something you have not seen is terribly, terribly silly. (I am not referring to the reviewers; they appear to have seen the fillum.)</p> <p>As for me, my socks are screaming to have their odors expunged. Speaking of odors, don't see BUG. OCEAN'S 13 was not even stylish; it was drab and miserable. However, on DVD, THE SWORD OF DOOM is stirring. And a filly won the Belmont!</p>

  • June 10, 2007, 7:54 a.m. CST

    Why dont they stop

    by emeraldboy

    making comic book films.

  • June 10, 2007, 7:56 a.m. CST

    is anybody above the age of 10

    by kwisatzhaderach

    excited at seeing this movie? Fantastic Four makes Superman Returns look like a professional piece of work.

  • June 10, 2007, 7:57 a.m. CST

    While my socks wash, I will read Dark Knight Returns.

    by Bronx Cheer

    I'm only a few pages into it and I'm very impressed. Bye!

  • June 10, 2007, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Planty O Roy

    by jiggertool

    Except for the Helmet part, Everything Roy mentioned about the movie has been seen or heard in trailers and interviews.I don't think he's seen the film either.

  • June 10, 2007, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Bobo, your words describe my take...

    by Bronx Cheer

    on Harry's Hostel 2 review..."If this guy liked the movie, so be it, but why get angry at Memflix? Just give your review and move on, but caring so much about other reviews makes you seem like you have something invested in the movie."</p> <p>All this carping about other reviewers is petty and unprofessional.</p>

  • June 10, 2007, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Why dont they stop making comic book films?

    by jfp2007

    ...because they make a shitload of money and are generally entertaining. If you don't like them then don't watch them and stop complaining about them. We don't give a shit what you think.

  • June 10, 2007, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Bronx Cheer

    by jfp2007

    There's nothing petty and unprofessional about it. Welcome to the Internet, asshole.

  • June 10, 2007, 8:15 a.m. CST

    This will prove one of two things...

    by Negative Man

    <p>...AICN will print anything without any investigation or that a good majority of people who come to this site hate to hear anything positive.</p><p>I've given reviews to this site before and was called a plant on several occasions. I truly believed it was because I didn't curse or misspell enough words in what I wrote. HA! I kid! Though, I'm not delusional enough to believe a major studio is going to dedicate people to sway the small amount of people that come to this site to believe their film is good. They're going to spend their money on mass advertising campaigns. Most TB's average around 100 or so responses. Even with ones pulling in 400+, it's still a small amount of people reacting, bickering amongst themselves, or spaming. So there are probably only 50 to 100 individuals posting in a TB on any givin subject. With advertising logic, each vocal person equals 100 silent ones. So 100TBers x 100= 10,000 people. Average movie ticket price is about $10. $10 x 10,000= $100,000. Wow...that's pretty crappy money. That's money to be ignored. A drop in the bucket. Barely pays for catering for the film. Let's face it; Yes internet sites are used for advertising. But no, there is very little reason to try to fake a review.</p><p>Just look at what listening to the net-geeks did for Snakes On A Plane... They'll listen to their test audiences before us.</p><p>And Mori, I think maybe Roy may have been told that there had been no other screenings by the FOX guy because the FOX guy was: A) Talking about the UK. B) Gives that answer to make people feel special. C) Is a typical suit that only knows what's on his reference cards.</P><p>Man, I remember seeing a sceening of Disney's Mighty Joe Young. There was a part where Ray Harryhausen was dancing with his wife. He says "You're as beautiful as the day I met you." to his wife and was a nice little nod to the master of stop motion monkeys. Asked to stay and give my opinion with about twenty other people, the suit running the show asked if there was anything that stood out. Typical reactions of purtty colors and SFX. I mentioned I was glad they gave Ray the nod and hoped that stayed in the film. He stared blankly at me... "Ray who? What does he have to do with the movie?" I explained who Harryhausen was and how, without him, there would not be a Mighty Joe Young. "Well, I don't think so. And I have no idea why you think he's remotely important." Swear to the bear, that's what the prick said. I had to explain (seriously, now) that this Mighty Joe Young was a remake of a 1949 movie. "Whatever. Please ignore him." That's what suit boy told the rest of the test audience hold overs. I turned to the higher mucky mucky suits in the shadows and asked where they got such an uninformed ninny. "DON'T TALK TO THEM! Don't you talk to them! You are not suppossed to know they're here!" Seriously. These are the type of guys that run the test screenings. Stuffed shirts that have little idea about anything that's not current industry bullcrap. Hard to find good help, I guess.</P>

  • June 10, 2007, 8:30 a.m. CST

    WHAT?

    by lionbiu

    I am from the UK (London) and we could not give a toss about The London Eye. I have no clue if this review is real or not...frankly I dont give two shits if it sucks or not. I wont be seeing it. "cool as balls" LOL! BEST. PHRASE. EVER.

  • June 10, 2007, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Cool as Balls = Cool as Ice

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    Go ninja, go ninja go....

  • June 10, 2007, 8:39 a.m. CST

    ah welcome back Emerald Boy!

    by Talkbacker with no name

    I've missed your fact ridden, pointless posts. How you been, buddy? <p>"This film opens in Ireland in June 15th. They havent been showing screenings here." Thanks for that! They are not showing them in Antarctica either. <p>"Why dont they stop making comic book movies" - Because they make shit loads of fucking cash for the studios, fella.

  • June 10, 2007, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Cool as Viggo's balls?

    by Jakes Nel

    Nothing's as cool as Viggo's balls.

  • June 10, 2007, 8:50 a.m. CST

    jfp2006, thanks. That got a bigger laugh from me than

    by Bronx Cheer

    anything in OCEAN'S. I do want to clarify one thing...I meant that reviewers carping about other reviewers is unprofessional, because they're professionals, theoretically.

  • June 10, 2007, 8:51 a.m. CST

    I must have blinked

    by Blueberry

    Because in my screening I didn't get Galactus in his full form with the helmet, apart from the vague shadow on Saturn at the beginning.

  • June 10, 2007, 8:52 a.m. CST

    gratz on posting spoilers

    by palewook

    and i still doubt the majority of adults will find this movie worth 6-10 bucks.

  • June 10, 2007, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the anecdote Negative Man

    by SpencerTrilby

    that's really sad, come to think of it. Oh, and no one cares about the London Eye. Except the Thing.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:01 a.m. CST

    These are bold, bold claims

    by Gozu

    See here's the thing. Either a) this guy is full of shit and is lying, which makes him the worst kind of plant or b) he's not and he just spoiled probably the one good surprise of the whole movie. Either way, I'll need confirmation from other reviewers that Galactus does indeed appear in total Jack Kirby awesomeness.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:07 a.m. CST

    "I'm the captain of the ski team, and

    by SpencerTrilby

    the only guy in Greendale that can ski the K-12. What girl doesn't love that?" I wonder if a plant could use such a cool alias.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Green plastic watering can...

    by corvette63

    I did a search but couldn't find any previous postings by Roy Stallin to be able to judge the accuracy of this review. That said, it is possible that the fan reaction to a cloud-like Galactus caused a huge post-production change in Galactus' appearance. If Galactus and Silver Surfer are both CG then it's quite possible that Story did an about face in the last month or two and changed it up. Just because it's written in the adaptation (can anyone confirm this?) that Galactus is a cloud doesn't mean that is the way he appears in the movie. Just about every adaptation I've read differs from the movie. I'm assuming this is due to deadlines and having to use an early script to write from. At any rate, Galactus is still a goofy looking dude in purple armor.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Go Tim

    by Cobbio

    I could give a shit about this movie. Fantastic Four fans are probably excited for it, which is cool, but honestly, the first film was so utterly, embrassingly stupid that I cringe thinking about it. This is super hero stuff for nine-year-olds, not adults, and Tim Story is the perfect happy faced, brainless director to bring it to your local bigscreen.<p> Go Tim!

  • June 10, 2007, 9:17 a.m. CST

    I'm seeing it Friday

    by bamboogrove

    fuck all ya'll!

  • June 10, 2007, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Where is Roy Stalin now?

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I saw that he showed up in Memflix's TB and called him a fraud. Now, he's got his own little column. Where are you Roy? Care to defend your review?<P>For the record, I have no interest in this film or franchise. I just want to see a Reviewer War. Cry havoc!

  • June 10, 2007, 9:38 a.m. CST

    A Tale of Two Reviews

    by Jonny_Dr_Thunder

    One is nicely written... taking time to elaborate on scenes, character development, motivations and acting skill. The other says, "Cool as Balls."<br> <br> One review seems to be accurate about everything we've heard so far... the other pulls information out of fucking nowhere.<br> <br> One reviewer knows how to use the english language.... the other says it's "Cool as Balls."<br> <br> It's also awesome how Memflix said this was a movie for kids under 10, hence the PG rating, and this Roy guy obviously writes like he's under 10. Genius.<br> <br> Thanks to Moriarty's great input about them screening this everywhere and the verifying that the UK was definitely NOT the first and only screening, I'm staying with my man Memflix on this one. This 10-year-old Roy Communist guy definitely seems completely full of shit. However... for the love of Christ, I hope I'm wrong. Wow, I hope I'm wrong.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:42 a.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack

    by palewook

    still holding out hope for Sunshine and American Gangster saving this year. agreed that all the sequels have blown goats so far and look to continue that for the rest of the year.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:52 a.m. CST

    the really funny thing is...

    by WhoDis

    learning that people actually buy and read novelizations of movies like this. What are you, 9 years old? Holy christ don't you have a better use of your time?

  • June 10, 2007, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Re: "Chiklis IS Ben Grimm"

    by Borstal Boy

    Dude...in SOME comics sue storm is taller than him. In OTHER comics The Thing is almost as big as the Hulk. Comparing the stupid details in a superhero movies to the comics is useless...so just stop. Forever. And not just you, but everyone.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:56 a.m. CST

    All I know is that...

    by mrfan

    if Galactus doesn't appear at the beginning of the movie as Roy Boy says then I will stand up, yell plant, finish the rest of the movie, come back AICN, and become his worst nightmare.<p>Seriously

  • June 10, 2007, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Alba with no clothes

    by djchk1975

    There is a seen where Sue Storm has burnt her clothes off taking Johnny Storm's powers, does that make it worth seeing?

  • June 10, 2007, 10 a.m. CST

    We need other reviews.

    by mrfan

    Come on people. Give us the reviews.....NOW!!!<p> I want one of the top dogs to do one. That is what I am truly waiting for to happen. Less than a week left. I am sure someone trustworthy will be along to give one.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:02 a.m. CST

    One mans garbage is another ones pearls.

    by Yeti

    It was either that or "Planted Plants that Plant"

  • June 10, 2007, 10:08 a.m. CST

    There have been some good films this year

    by Gozu

    "Paprika," "Hot Fuzz," "28 Weeks Later," and "Severance" were all great (although technically "Hot Fuzz" and "Paprika" came out last year everywhere else but the US). As far as Hollywood summer blockbusters go, well...hmmm....

  • June 10, 2007, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Every sentence of this review sounds phony

    by BrowncoatJedi

    What a lame attempt.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Why post this?

    by The Funketeer

    So now all we have to do to get a review posted is contradict someone else's review with some made up spoilers that will be proven wrong in a weeks time? Do we think this guy cares if we believe him or not? He was posted and that's probably all he was aiming for.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:15 a.m. CST

    not the most convincing but come on give me a break

    by cryingangel

    ppl praise the bad reviews and knock the good, how does that make sense, what is this world coming too

  • June 10, 2007, 10:15 a.m. CST

    not the most convincing but come on give me a break

    by cryingangel

    ppl praise the bad reviews and knock the good, how does that make sense, what is this world coming too

  • June 10, 2007, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Palewook

    by SpencerTrilby

    Trust me: forget Sunshine (a waste of good actors by Boyle the Britsh Ratner) and let's hope American Gangster saves the year.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:20 a.m. CST

    yeah nice anecdote Negative Man

    by Talkbacker with no name

    I went to a test screening of Mike Leigh's 'Secret and Lies'. Almost all the people afterwards in the focus group seemed to hate the movie, and I was so worried this great film would be cut to bits. To the studios credit the movie stayed completely intact (from what I remember once it finally did come out). But there is a big difference I guess between the indie test screenings and the big Hollywood ones. I'm thinking this was more for Leigh himself to see how the movie worked with an audience. <p>sorry to go on but I think you might find this one interesting - I was a projectionist for a while and Universal brought the Hulk into our cinema (it was well after the cinema release date. Think it was just before the DVD release) and tested it to a group of teenagers. I sat in on that screening and afterwards the lady said "Did you like it? what didn't you like" etc. I didn't hear one kid say anything great about it, they all thought it was long and boring. Personally I think it's a fucking masterpiece but that's by the by. My point is I guess, why would they test screen it after the cinema release? Maybe they were thinking of cuts for the DVD release?

  • June 10, 2007, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Alba on MTV Movie awards

    by BRUTICUS

    Anyone else see this? Here's how an interview with her while she was leaning against one of the Autobots on the red carpet down:<p><p>Interviewer: So Jessica, how do you think Rise of the Silver Surfer will do up against TRANSFORMERS???<p><p>Jessica Alba:"All I know is that Rise of the Silver Surfer is going to be the BEST FAMILY COMEDY of the summer!"<p><p><p>LOL Family COMEDY!? What a way to reel in the fan support. I will avoid this movie like a large steaming turd. I do NOT touch pooh.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:29 a.m. CST

    'ROY' FROM MEMFLIX

    by memflix

    I saw it. When and where? Not saying. I'm not burning bridges on account of Roy. Galactus IS a storm cloud made up of all manner of crap. There is a bit of definition in the middle of the cloud, but ripping off the effects from the sandstorm in The Mummy is hardly 'badass.' I didn't see the middle of the credits. Why? I wanted to get the fuck out. Hey, Roy...How many FF t-shirts did you get for that bullshit, or did they bump you up from mailboy to fluffer? I don't do spoilersrs. I don't believe they are necessary to write a review, which by the way that wasn't. The JOHNNY bit looked shitty. Like I said, the Surfer is where the effects were concentrated. I have never given a false write-up. That mantle belongs to Roy, who is from my perspective, nothing more than a studio assigned plant. I am flattered that the suits thought it necessary to do it on account of my review. I stand by my review. If people don't believe me, there is nothing I else I can say. Just please, fucking pretty please, don't fall for this blatant fucking lie!

  • June 10, 2007, 10:30 a.m. CST

    VOTE!

    by BRUTICUS

    I vote that this news post is placed BELOW Memflixs post.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:34 a.m. CST

    nice one memflix!

    by Talkbacker with no name

    At least you had the guts to chime in, unlike Chicken Roy! <p>Gutted to say the least about galactus though, dude.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Why are all the fuck up plants European?

    by ODM

    First Bay reckons some peice of Euro trash fucked up the lips on Prime (I call bullshit) and next we have some English gimp guy bigging up FF:ROTSS (which we all know is going stink like shit on Hitler's jackboot). That's right, blame Europeasn for everything!!

  • June 10, 2007, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Memflix chimes in...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...and it's on!!!

  • June 10, 2007, 10:39 a.m. CST

    ODM

    by Talkbacker with no name

    what do you mean "some peice of Euro trash fucked up the lips on Prime". Let the cat out the bag he had lips before we saw the footage? SO does he have lips or not?

  • June 10, 2007, 10:45 a.m. CST

    ODM, I cry foul.

    by Bronx Cheer

    You are not allowed to use modern-day colloquialisms such as "bigging up" followed with references to feces on the footwear of one of Europe's most notorious fascists. It's confusing! If you must switch gears so abruptly, please refer to Joseph Stalin's boots. He would be more appropriate to the discussion, don't you think?. Thank you very much.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:57 a.m. CST

    SO. Will ROY RETURN?

    by BRUTICUS

    Or stay hidden in the garden with the rest of plants?

  • June 10, 2007, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Memflix is the Real Deal Hollyfield

    by vmj19

    Perhaps Memflix's review was twisted by Roy when it was converted through that metric system thing they have across the pond. But know this.. THEY DRIVE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD! Why would you believe anyone who would do such a thing?!? Come June 15th, this talkback will be a wasteland, there will be a ton of aintitcoolers whining about how crappy FF:ROTSS is and everyone will go back to talking about what's really important, like who's funeral Jack went to...

  • June 10, 2007, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Why look for Roy? It's 5PM in England. Maybe...

    by Bronx Cheer

    maybe he's enjoying his afternoon? It's called a life.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Roy has better things to do right now

    by Cillit BANG

    He's on <i>our beloved London Eye</i> exposing himself to tourists, I bet ya.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:20 a.m. CST

    it seems to me that if you hate a movie

    by emeraldboy

    and write a really negative review. Then one is deemed to be a hero and is cheered for hating a movie or movies. If you say you like a movie then youre a deemed to be plant by haters. You might as well post a warning sign on the talkbacks that says. dont post anything if you like a movieor movies here cause if you do you will be verbally abused, called a plant or worse.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:23 a.m. CST

    I bloody hate that london eye

    by Talkbacker with no name

    what a waste of tax players money. It's a ferris wheel that goes really slow and you can see the city from the air for 20 quid or something. Um great! If you really want to do that, get a job in the city and see the same thing from one of the office blocks, hell they will even pay you!

  • June 10, 2007, 11:23 a.m. CST

    I've seen clips of an SS and Sue Storm heart to heart

    by chiahead

    I thought it was in the commercial. I guess I must have seen it online. But even so, I certainly didn't have to see the film to know about it. Meanwhile, Memflix said he tried to view it 'as a film' and not compare it to anything. But all he does is compare it to the comic book and repeatedly says how disappointed he is by its lack of dedication to the source material. What's that about?<BR><BR>still think the movie's gonna suck, but still. What's that about?

  • June 10, 2007, 11:24 a.m. CST

    "cool as balls" ... you have to be english, man

    by ludmir88

    And this movie is already out of my summer movie list!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • June 10, 2007, 11:26 a.m. CST

    what the hell does driving on the wrong side of the

    by emeraldboy

    road in Europe have to do with a movie.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:26 a.m. CST

    I asked this guy from Fox ...

    by 9banned0.5furious

    ...while you were with him, you didn`t happen to learn the going price for being a tool in Die Flaccid TB, huh?

  • June 10, 2007, 11:29 a.m. CST

    The silver surfer is reading this talkback!!!!

    by ludmir88

    and Roy sound like Tim Story in disguise!!!!!!!!

  • June 10, 2007, 11:29 a.m. CST

    HA!

    by ballsmcretard

    Funny, so completely a plant! In fact maybe the plantyess, plant to ever plant! I'd like to thank us all for being so optimistic on this one though...we are so young and naive. "Oh, maybe they'll do a better job" or "It's got the Silver Surfer...it's gotta be good." or "I guess I can deal with Galactus being a storm." --man, we are adorable.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:30 a.m. CST

    It's the right side, Emeraldboy

    by Talkbacker with no name

    We drive on the right side of the road and don't let the yanks tell you any different...unless they say we in fact drive on the left side.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Same reason Bruce Willis is Sandman

    by 9banned0.5furious

    in the adverts. Duh! But really, its all f***ed up.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:39 a.m. CST

    CLANCY BROWN as a horn-helmeted GALACTUS!

    by JustinSane

    Inside the cloud!

  • June 10, 2007, 11:49 a.m. CST

    ayeah

    by Mogwrath

    Thx a lot for all the spoilers :) You just saved thousands of lives! Now people wont feel compelled to see this crappy movie at all!

  • June 10, 2007, 11:49 a.m. CST

    This movie will make $300 million in the US

    by Razorback

    Bank on it.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:50 a.m. CST

    ROY RULES !! ROY RULES!!

    by mr dark

    I am happy Roy enjoyed the film. Isn't that what the filmakers hope to do along with making a butt load of cash..I stay away from setting the bar to high anymore for what Hollywood wants to shit out to the masses. It really is a shame that the the Industry seems to only focus on the mediocre and selling all the fluff that it can instead of trying to supply the true film goer with just a little better product then he went in expecting to see. That should be the BAR that is raised.. I hate to say it but the only films I have reason to be wathing out for is Watchmen and Dark Knight..Nolan !! Snyder!! Don't let me down...

  • June 10, 2007, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Fine, but just admit Doom is on a surfboard.

    by superninja

    <>

  • June 10, 2007, 11:54 a.m. CST

    I like Led Zeppelin

    by cornponious

    Including Robert PLANT!!!

  • June 10, 2007, 11:59 a.m. CST

    I smell Bullshit.

    by Crimson King

    This movie is obviously a steaming wet turd.

  • June 10, 2007, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Playkins' cunt was crafted by a surgeon

    by forgot_old_username

    There, I said it. Moving on, they suckered me into handing over cash to see the first pile of drek, and I'm still bitter over that. I don't care what any of these bozos say. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice...

  • June 10, 2007, 12:10 p.m. CST

    If they changed Galactus to a helmet-head I

    by superninja

    would be surprised.

  • June 10, 2007, 12:15 p.m. CST

    All these details/spoilers means one thing:

    by kevred

    ...desperation on the part of the studio, who probably realize that they've funded junk and it's already sinking before it's even out. I can't see any other reason for such an obviously fake review to include so many details. "No, don't leave, look...we have Galactus! With horns!"<p>This movie will have a tidy opening weekend--not huge, and will plummet after that. Many children and dumb people will like it, and their short attention spans will quickly move on.

  • June 10, 2007, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Memflix has a website

    by pinkhistorybuff

    If Memflix was a "liar" why would he have his own website? www.memflixbeyond.com

  • June 10, 2007, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Memflix says they never describe what Galactus is

    by superninja

    (big damn tornado) and this guy says he's a helmet head - obviously someone is lying.

  • June 10, 2007, 12:16 p.m. CST

    You lost me at "COOL AS BALLS"

    by HueyFreeman

    This guy's either a plant, or a 14-year-old kid.

  • June 10, 2007, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Oh, also...

    by HueyFreeman

    ...this review reeks of molded SHIT.

  • June 10, 2007, 12:21 p.m. CST

    According to the reviews of the novelization, their

    by superninja

    description of Galactus is more in line with what Memflix describes. Also, why would Sue remind the Surfer of Shalla-Bal? Because she's female and tells him not to destroy her planet? The little heart to heart conversation does sound like a groaner to me. <p> They should've left it alone and made this two films and just dealt with Surfers arrival in this one and have him forget himself and get close to Alicia Masters and in the next film Galactus arrives. <p> I still want my FF Atlantean Invasion flick with Bale as Namor.

  • June 10, 2007, 12:22 p.m. CST

    messi

    by Talkbacker with no name

    you think anyone is going to answer you based on yesterday's display of childish tanturms? That's old news, boy.

  • June 10, 2007, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Don't know who to believe???

    by Anti-fanboy

    How 'bout... nobody?!? If you're so anxious to enjoy this movie, take all reviews for what they are, opinions -- sometimes plants -- and go see the damned thing. Revel in your love and need for mainstream mediocrity, as you pave the way for Fantastic Four: Rollin wit Da Panther, featuring Xzibit, as the wise-crackin' T-Challa, leader of the progressive street gang, The Wakandanz, who have developed a new alloy called Vibranium that can be used to control bass frequencies. He pimps out the Fantasticar with the rare metal in preparation for their battle with Klawz, a rival gang leader who, in an attempt to out-do Da Panther, became melded with the sound system in his ride, and now has giant subs for hands! It'll be cool as ballzzz! That's right, THREE zzzs!

  • June 10, 2007, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Dibs on rollinwitdapanther.com

    by Anti-fanboy

    Bitches.

  • June 10, 2007, 12:29 p.m. CST

    sweet. hostel only made 9 million!!!

    by billyhitchcock

    i bet roth heralds it as a victory. stop making shit dickhead!!

  • June 10, 2007, 12:39 p.m. CST

    From the update it seems Memflix was right.

    by IndustryKiller!

    ANd considering that's more in line with what we have been hearing all along and the god awful first film, that's probably the safest bet.

  • June 10, 2007, 12:41 p.m. CST

    TOA = Turd On Arrival

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    Nuff said.

  • June 10, 2007, 12:52 p.m. CST

    No it's not too vague. Come on, man, he described

    by superninja

    it for you. Sounds like a crap ending - you don't even see the Surfer defeat Galactus.

  • June 10, 2007, 12:55 p.m. CST

    I agree PoweredUpPacman

    by J-Dizzle

    It seems the only way to get any credability on this site is to be a pessimistic tool.

  • June 10, 2007, 1 p.m. CST

    Kurzinski Valentine

    by Shaner Jedi

    maybe memflix's description is "still too vague" because the films depiction of Galactus is. Maybe the filmmakers don't make it clear exactly what Galactus is?

  • June 10, 2007, 1:03 p.m. CST

    The London Eye rulez!

    by BannedOnTheRun

    It's the only way to see downtown London.*

  • June 10, 2007, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Pour soe water on this one...It will grow. Planty plant

    by Proman1984

    Plant plant. I mean coe on cpould this guy be any more obvious!

  • June 10, 2007, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Sounds like the Sentinels con job from X3

    by Darkcityuk

    Can't believe you guys have such short memories, does this not invoke the same feelings as the Sentinels issue from X-men the last stand, yet another Fox produced marvel tragedy. They popped up as just a big head too! Frankly its no co-incidence, they cant be bothered making proper films can they.... anger.. rising...

  • June 10, 2007, 1:24 p.m. CST

    memflix doesn't like to spoil films. Why should mems

    by Bronx Cheer

    give up some key info just to prove teh review's legit?

  • June 10, 2007, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Shaner, that is correct, that's what memflix said in

    by superninja

    his review to begin with.

  • June 10, 2007, 1:29 p.m. CST

    They should just say "We're not going to show

    by superninja

    Galactus because we used up all our budget on animating the Surfer." That's why they should've made two films instead of one.

  • June 10, 2007, 1:34 p.m. CST

    "cool as balls"

    by The Dum Guy

    Can you even say balls in a PG film?

  • June 10, 2007, 1:34 p.m. CST

    forgot_old_username:

    by Playkins

    Don't get jealous because my "innie" is bigger than you "outie". You all act like Fox was trying to sucker you into seeing a movie. Bullshit! Fox spends millions of dollars making films that see them returns. Why would they intentionally try to sucker you? So they can loose their market and make less money? I'll agree that how they've handled some of their properties is a shame, but you're forgetting that they are running a HUGE company. If they can make less expensive movies that make just as much money, why the fuck would they blow 300 million on FF2 just to please a few fanboys? They are already blowing 130 million on a sequel when the far-less expensive FF did fine at the box office. You are forgetting that they are not out to please you, but a MASS MARKET. That means broadening the appeal by making it accessible to as many people as possible (yes, including kids and moms that are taking kids to the theaters). The AICN geek market makes up only a slight percentage of ticket sales so you need to get off your inflated sense of self worth.

  • June 10, 2007, 1:36 p.m. CST

    "getting cred" on this site...

    by SpencerTrilby

    should be the least of our concern. The founder of the site hardly got any cred left, if he had any in the first place.

  • June 10, 2007, 1:39 p.m. CST

    I will reserve judgement until next friday....

    by jojo-pimp

    i dont give this site any cred anymore, especially since the fake joker pics, the bat bike, and lord only knows half the shit that turned out to be fake on this site.

  • June 10, 2007, 1:39 p.m. CST

    "I just saw it"

    by Kragmose

    "Its real good!"

  • June 10, 2007, 1:40 p.m. CST

    So is he now a plant or is Memflix a liar?

    by DerLanghaarige

    I still don't know who I should believe. But on the other hand...I don't care.

  • June 10, 2007, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Roy...

    by Bruce Leroy

    Tell those guys at FOX i said hi! Oh, and also tell them they can go FUCK themselves! I will be downloading FF2. Watching it in the worst possible quality will be good enough for me. The first movie was a piece of shit. It's not even worth a rental!

  • June 10, 2007, 1:45 p.m. CST

    why would kids and mums be against a big purple man?

    by SpencerTrilby

    No one is arguing that FF should be rated R (that's another Fox property...); but being faithful to the source material and being family-friendly aren't mutually exclusive. Batman Begins was a hit. A hack director (Story) pushes to have more expensive tools to rape, err I mean portray a silver surfing dude, even if he could've done it with 5 years old SFX... So the budget explodes, and the movie is watered down accordingly? Why should the audience be taken hostage of that silly SFX race??? Which is 8 times out of ten led by lousy directors, not visionaries like Jackson or Cameron...

  • June 10, 2007, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Was Memflix right about the 1.5 hour running time?

    by Drath

    Because that in and of itself is pretty damning considering how much is supposed to be shown. But like others on here, I'm unable to muster enough interest to really care. I do find it interesting that they fucked up Dr. Doom and did some last minute adjustments that were clearly catering to fans--and now they seem to be doing it with Galactus. Why aren't they just doing the characters right in the first place?

  • June 10, 2007, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Memflixes new spoiler...

    by TheGreenStyle

    So, in the cloud lightening flashes and you sorta see Galactus's head for half a second? lame.

  • June 10, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Hamilton takes first place in Montreal F1!

    by Jakes Nel

    Sorry. Thought you might care...

  • June 10, 2007, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Lewis Hamilton for Speed Racer!

    by SpencerTrilby

    ^^

  • June 10, 2007, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Why hasn't Roy taken a peek...

    by football

    ... at what TBs have been saying about his review? It's approx 7.55pm in the UK so I find it hard to believe that Roy hasn't even been tempted to respond to Memflix. Come on, tell us why it's as "cool as balls", Roy. Expand on your review for those of us that think this is going to be another puerile pile of shit. Also, Transformers won't be much better from what I've seen so don't get your hopes up.

  • June 10, 2007, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Oh, and on a footnote...

    by SpencerTrilby

    FUCK FOX

  • June 10, 2007, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Roy isn't peeking in...

    by TheGreenStyle

    Because he's busy spending the 25 pounds (roughly 50 US Dollars) he got for writing his review at his favorite Porn house and McDonalds. He's having himself a fun little afternoon, all for a mere 5 hours of work!

  • June 10, 2007, 2:08 p.m. CST

    London Eye

    by Gee Redbeard

    Friend of mine went to London and took a ride on the eye. They were in this compartment with, like, twenty other people. At the start of the ride, a guy proposes to his fiance, who predictably says no. Queue major embarassment for the next 45 minutes while the ride goes round and Mr. Jilted can't get off. Class.

  • June 10, 2007, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Poor guy...

    by SpencerTrilby

    Why everyone today has to recount sad stories/anecdotes. You're fucking my sunday, with your tales of jilted guys and movie guys who don't know Ray... For shame.

  • June 10, 2007, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Can't wait until Friday...

    by Darth Thoth

    So I can see for myself who's lying. Personally I think this movie is going to be crap so I tend to believe Memflix on this one. But we'll see. The sucky part is I'll have to be buy a tix to decide and so if it does turn out butt, Fox still gets the cash. That sucks.

  • June 10, 2007, 2:23 p.m. CST

    And another thing,

    by Gee Redbeard

    You'd think that when a studio spends millions upon millions of dollars on a movie, they'd at least fork out enough cash to hire a plant who could put together a persuasive arguement. Not that I'm saying that "cool as balls" doesn't have it's own charm, but, well, you know.

  • June 10, 2007, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Roy got paid 25 quid for 5 hours of work?

    by Jakes Nel

    Talk about minimum wage. Poor sod...

  • June 10, 2007, 2:27 p.m. CST

    why does roy get called a fox stooge ?

    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    and memflex not get called a fox hater ? tit for tat guys .....

  • June 10, 2007, 2:31 p.m. CST

    7000 Plants can't be wrong

    by Mister Fame

    8.5 million for Hostel 2. Ouch.

  • June 10, 2007, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Plant, Robert

    by unclemeat

    Used to sing for Led Zeppelin.

  • June 10, 2007, 2:32 p.m. CST

    JeanLuc Dickhard:

    by Playkins

    Because nobody seems to care about anything POSITIVE on this site.

  • June 10, 2007, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Flip63Hole

    by Gee Redbeard

    Because then we'd miss all the "Hater!", "Plant!" stuff that comes along with every movie that potentially sucks but really shouldn't considering the source material. That as much a part of the movie going experience as getting some popcorn, or trying to sneak an arm around your dream gal during the trailers.

  • June 10, 2007, 2:42 p.m. CST

    AICN needs a poll feature so we can attach shit

    by BRUTICUS

    so we can attach polls to these tings giving the general consensus on the news topic. That way someone doesn't have to read all the posts, just read the votes. Then again studios will prolly start hiring people to post. But uh.... then again if its a wiki system and poll votes only count if you have cred then that would be aplus.

  • June 10, 2007, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Hollywood loves polls. Agreed that would

    by superninja

    be a good feature.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Ain't it cool as balls?

    by WONKABAR

    sorry, couldn't resist

  • June 10, 2007, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Shit. Did you guys hear? Stan Lee just died...

    by Jakes Nel

    ... and went to heaven after hearing he's gonna make even more millions from this shit. What? Bad joke?

  • June 10, 2007, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Maýbe both of these cunt have seen the movie

    by redfist

    ok, it is not unheard of that differnt cuts of the same movie are shown to differnt audiences to get the best survez and finish the film. And considering Storz doesnt get 2 fucks about the material, it would not surprise me. Theroy 2, they are both fucking plants. Nothing more than fuel to get us fanboys pissed off at the air. But I hve to say......... the use of the term "cool as balls" has me wanting to cut urs off. Last time I checked, my testicales are rather hot and swhetty.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Here's the plan for FF2...

    by Kirbymanly

    This movie looks like complete SHIT. Let's let our voices be heard by NOT SEEING IT. We should've thought of this the second they cast Jessica Alba as Sue Storm in the first one. What they are giving us is NOT Fantastic Four. Boycott!

  • June 10, 2007, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Roy has a beer then cheets on his wife

    by PervOmatic

    That is what I heard...

  • June 10, 2007, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Spoil some more a-wipe. How's my popcorn gonna taste?

    by lettersoftransit

    Jeez, aren't you guy's supposed to give warnings when there's spoilers a'comin'?

  • June 10, 2007, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Gah Lak Tus

    by Barrymore Yorke

    Just one question . . . I flipped through the novel at the grocery store a couple weeks back, and I'm 99% sure the novel refers to 'Gah Lak Tus,' which is the more kind of space debris / cosmic cloud of locusts version from Marvel's Ultimate universe. So if it's actually 'Gah Lak Tus,' doesn't that lend credence to what Memflix claims?

  • June 10, 2007, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Playkins

    by mr dark

    Well Said, Good day to you Sir..

  • June 10, 2007, 3:32 p.m. CST

    If I wanted to waste an hour and a half of my life

    by Fridge

    I'd read an entire TB on this site, not pay money to see this pile of shit.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:33 p.m. CST

    He's a space tornado...

    by andrew coleman

    In the most recent commercials you can see a giant tornado heading for Earth. Who cares why can't Die Hard and Potter be out yet?

  • June 10, 2007, 3:36 p.m. CST

    He's full of shit.

    by Max Rebo

    Just FYI: This 'review' is not written by somebody British. The wording, phrasing and slang are not indicative of somebody who lives in England. It is, however, indicative of some asshole-stooge for Fox who wants to provoke controversy that will ultimately propel ticket sales. Don't go see this movie. It is clearly going to suck. I HIGHLY doubt anyone involved in this project will be able to improve on the COMPLETE FAILURE of the first FF movie.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Stop with the plant reviews already...and here's why:

    by beefywhore

    it is an insult to fans everywhere for studio's exec's to try to TRICK us into going to see mediocre shit by writing FAKE reviews and talking it up, and saying stupid shit like "Cool as Balls" ...I know there are some stupid people that troll around these talkbacks, but most of us are smarter than a fifth grader... Here's an idea, focus your money on making movie's that are worth seeing. Then you don't have to waste your time sending in this shit...nobody here is fooled.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:45 p.m. CST

    there already workin on the X-rated tie in

    by mr dark

    Fantastic fourplay and the rise of the silver slurper..

  • June 10, 2007, 3:46 p.m. CST

    so Galactus is La Magra...

    by lynxpro

    It had to be said. Regardless, this flick won't be appearing on HD DVD.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:48 p.m. CST

    MEMFLIX DID NOT SEE FF2.

    by warpspasm

    ROY STALIN HIT IT ON THE HEAD.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:51 p.m. CST

    I'm not up for a boycott...

    by lynxpro

    This is still not the travesty that was *Superman Returns* or *Batman & Robin*. Just see it matinee, or wait for the video release.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:53 p.m. CST

    and....even Chris Nolan stumbles...

    by lynxpro

    C'mon...Heath Ledger as The Joker? Talk about suckage. If BB2 is a success, it will be in spite of Ledger. Frickin' stupid Warner Bros. Chris Eccleston IS The Joker.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Roy is NOT a plant...

    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    but he IS full of shit. <br><br>Fox may be stupid enough to have someone come in here and give a glowing review of their shitty film, but I don't think they'd be so dumb as to plainly LIE about the actual content of the film. That's just setting people up to hate it more when they find out it's lies. So while Roy is some frickin' idiot who just wants to fuck with readers, he ain't with Fox... my opinion

  • June 10, 2007, 3:56 p.m. CST

    FF2 is rated PG!!!! WTF

    by TheUltraHumanite

    seriously, a comic book movie... rated PG, these things need a few teeth.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Alba called FF2 "The best FAMILY COMEDY" of the year!!!

    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    Holy shit!<br><br> In an interview at MTV Movie Awards, she did. If that doesn't tell you right there that this is completely NOT the film we all want it to be, I don't know what does. I mean PG's bad enough, but to actually label it a "family comedy"?!?!! And have you seen some of the lame-ass humor in these commercials?!? This is gonna be baaaaaaad.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Citing the "Johnny becomes a hero" thing...

    by Nodwick

    "He puts aside his ego and takes on ALL the FF's powers and beats the crap out of Doom." So it's an act of humility to increase your powers geometrically and be a poor man's stand-in for the Super Skrull? It'll take months to clean the stench of this "film" out of the theaters...

  • June 10, 2007, 4:03 p.m. CST

    It's PG here in the Uk

    by Tripman5000

    And there HAVE been preview showings this weekend here...

  • June 10, 2007, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Max Rebo you are so wrong... WRONG AS BALLS!

    by Darkcityuk

    Im from UK ENGLAND LEISTESHIRE SQUARES and i say COOL AS BALLS all the time.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:08 p.m. CST

    By extension, is Harry a Lionsgate stooge for liking

    by Bronx Cheer

    Hostel2? Probably not, he's just a guy who supports his friends...so maybe whoever wrote the headline should take it easy tossing about that "stooge" label.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:09 p.m. CST

    A quick search on the MPAA site reveals....

    by Tripman5000

    Title: Fantastic Four: Rise Of The Silver Surfer (2007) Rating: PG Rating Reason: Rated PG for sequences of action violence

  • June 10, 2007, 4:11 p.m. CST

    ok mr dark

    by Talkbacker with no name

    I'll give you that one hehehe

  • June 10, 2007, 4:11 p.m. CST

    .........and the rest!

    by Tripman5000

    some mild language and innuendo.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Darkcityuk lying or just stupid?

    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    ummm... wouldnt someone from LEICESTER SQUARE (not "LEISTESHIRE SQUARES") know how to f'in SPELL it?!?<br><br> ...not to mention the fact that no one is FROM there - it's a plaza, like NY's Times Square. Oh, and do people from there refer to it as "UK England"?!?

  • June 10, 2007, 4:17 p.m. CST

    OH WHO CARES ANYWAY?

    by Deus Vult

    If Roy's a fox stooge does it even matter? Its not like anyone who didn't want to see the movie prior read his review and has now decided to see it because they're expecting it to be the best movie ever.<p>So with that said, stop arguing over the authenticity of his review and go see "knocked up" which is by far the best, most creative and original movie of the summer thus far. who knows-you might even learn something.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:18 p.m. CST

    god don't say "stooge!"

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Don Murphy will pop up here and it's getting messy enough as it is right now.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:20 p.m. CST

    ShiftyEyedDog2

    by Tripman5000

    Not strictly true-I'm sure tere's a few dodgy tramps living there.....and the fucking noodle salesmen that seem to be there all the fucking time!

  • June 10, 2007, 4:20 p.m. CST

    hey who is don murphy again?

    by Deus Vult

    I feel like I ask that question every six months, which is about the time it takes for someone to mention his name...

  • June 10, 2007, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Just woke up to find this story...

    by nelwack

    Yes! Take that you fuckers! I told you this movie would be uh... you know...not that bad.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:22 p.m. CST

    I have never in my life heard anyone say

    by Talkbacker with no name

    "cool as balls" and i've lived in london for over 30 years!

  • June 10, 2007, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Don't ask Deus Vult

    by Talkbacker with no name

    seriously, bud. You are opening a can of worms here.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:23 p.m. CST

    People in the UK have cool balls?

    by WONKABAR

    is the weather or something? Cuz mine are always hot and sweaty. I'd like to have me some cool balls like you fine chaps. How might one obtain these cool balls of yours?

  • June 10, 2007, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Cool as balls?

    by Tripman5000

    Nah-the Dog Bollocks or the Mutts Nuts! And my bollocks ARE hot n sweaty as is the weather!

  • June 10, 2007, 4:26 p.m. CST

    LOL

    by zambonike

    lot of bad stuff about f4 ay? I watched the movie at a press screening in Singapore it was a solid movie in my opinion. But hey i aint no big fan of f4 even though i read some comics or ss which i never read.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Fantastic Whore cant be as bad as....

    by nelwack

    Fantastic Whore cant be as bad as that fucking two hour commercial that is Transformers. I swear to God I want to drink bleach and Zima everytime I see a commercial.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Anyone seen the lifesize Surfer display at theatres?

    by mister9

    I Want that Display Bad!!There's no doubt in my mind this movie will be better than the first (how could it possibly be worst?). My wife who refused to see the first movie with me has shown a real interest in seeing this one!! I don't care If Galactus is in it or not were finally getting to see a live action SILVER FUCKIN SURFER on the Big Screen! Call me simple but I never thought that would happen in my lifetime..see ya at the movies.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:32 p.m. CST

    and on the subject of plants...

    by Deus Vult

    guys seriously don't overestimate your worth to the movie studios. I'm not trying to be a dick here and call me out if you think I am as I know you will but honestly I don't think fox gives two cents of concern for the readers of aicn.<p>now I know mori usually chides me for incindiary remarks but in this case I'll put a call out to him, harry and the rest of the aicn staff and ask them an honest question which requires egos to be put aside--<p>how many hits does this site generate in a single day?<p>now reduce that by how many come by way of google or other search engines each day.<p>now reduce it by how many, even at an estimate, are between the ages of 15-34 and are male.<p>Now mori or harry or whomever is reading this post, please take the final number which is what I figure adds up to the most likely set of readers who would possibly be influenced by a review on a site which once featured an x-rated ape/penis backdrop and quite often (once a week at least) has posts by the site master which include offensive and also x-rated language?<p>Now take that number and multiply it by $8.50 which is an average price of a movie ticket and you'll see why YOU yes YOU the reader reading this very post don't matter to fox or warner or sony or whichever studio. you're too small a number and too insignificant to matter to them. and yes I include myself in that comment.<p>thus in the end the movie studios don't waste time with plants on this site or any other. it's just not worth it. they'll make $100m without wasting an intern's time by writing a phony review.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Who to believe?

    by Heresy

    Given the fact that the first movie was a complete piece of shit, the same team is working on ROTSS and every single preview/clip makes this one look ridiculous I think I'll go with Memflix. Plus anyone that would call the movie "cool as balls" has to be an idiot plant.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST

    plant

    by superbenitez

    My friends cousin has been working on the fx for WETA and he's already conceded that the film's an absolute stinker. Sure, it'll look good but it'll leave you feeling like you've had a lobotomy. Pity, some small part of me had a hope for this film - but given the 1st one, it shouldnt really come as a suprise that this one sucks ball$.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Oh wait, you mean...

    by WONKABAR

    "soccer"-balls right? If it's as cool as soccer then it sucks for sure.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Surfer display at theatres

    by nelwack

    Some punk ass kids at my theatre aleready have plans to jack that thing. I agree to, me and my girlfreind went to the first one not expecting anything good. The hype for it sucking was so large that when it turned out to be only half bad, it multiplied our enjoyment. So thanks all you fucking haters. Thanks for MAKING me enjoy the first one due to you bitching. Why dont you all go back to fucking film school so you can jack off to Turner Classic Movies or wheatever....

  • June 10, 2007, 4:38 p.m. CST

    The studios may not officially bother,

    by Bronx Cheer

    but I guarantee you that there are people very high up that troll sites like this and masquerade as teenage fanboys.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:40 p.m. CST

    thanks tbw/nn and as for mister9

    by Deus Vult

    he's the exact guy the studios are catering to. and I don't mean that in a nasty way mr9. in fact, I saw that display and it got me all geeked up inside too. and yea even my wife wants to see it (and she fell asleep at rots two years ago) so I totally get where you're coming from.<p>but the point is simply that old guys like me (32) are so happy to even have live-action comic book movies of our childhood heroes that we'll accept them even if they're pretty terrible.<p>and therein lies the problem I know but who am I to change it anyway? I'm just going to pay my $8.50 (make it $17 if the wife does come along) and hope it goes well. if it doesn't, I'll see the third installment on dvd. <p>maybe even hd-dvd---and here's why....

  • June 10, 2007, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, one more thing....

    by nelwack

    Transformers is retarded...

  • June 10, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    holy crap

    by therightclique

    i'm not going to get into the 'why' and 'how' but i PROMISE that screening was not the first screening of the movie ANYWHERE.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    So who the F is lying?

    by Phategod1

    Is it Roy is it the other Douche ? which Douche is the right Douche?

  • June 10, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    I'll give you that bronx cheer

    by Deus Vult

    and they're also the same guys who troll myspace and hollywood gossip sites masquerading as young girls hoping to meet one of the same.<p>and you know if they're on this site looking for teenage girls BOY are they on the wrong site! hu-hoo!

  • June 10, 2007, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Deus Vult nice theory

    by Talkbacker with no name

    but don't make out you know how it all works. You can judge how important aicn is to the studios by the high profile ads it has, not to mention all the people in the industry that come here (including A list stars, directors and producers). It's not just about us, it's about our family and friends too. To spread word of mouth you need to plant seeds.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:45 p.m. CST

    I told you Shia Labeouf should've been Silver Surfer!

    by Forestal

    In fact Shia Labeouf should've played every role in FF2! You know, kinda like Eddie Murphy in Norbit...Hell he would've looked more like Sue Storm than Jessica Alba!

  • June 10, 2007, 4:49 p.m. CST

    okay you may be right tbw/nn but even still..

    by Deus Vult

    the number isn't big enough, it can't be. here's why--no one I know outside of myself comes to this site. no one I know outside of myself had ever heard of this site prior to me mentioning it to them.<p>and, all of my friends are male, 28-35, married and many with at least one if not two children. they're the ones the studios want, and that's my point in the end.<p>even with the multiplier of aicn friends and family added in its not enough, its just not.

  • June 10, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Double edge sword of AICN

    by nelwack

    I agree that AICN does have some input. But that isnt always a good thing. The LOTR extended version was made for us to jack off too durring the"special" scenes that only we would get. It was NOT a good thing. We demand cool nerdy things like uh...I dont know. Wouldnt it be cool if the aliens from Alien fought the Predator? Yeah! Or how about Freddy versus Jason? I think studio execs come to sites like this and see us nerdy fanboys frothing at the mouth to see these pieces of shit. They know nerds from the 80's are growing up and want to buy back their childhood so they feed us Transfromers and... dear christ.... THUNDERCATS. Its our fault. Its our fault these movies are made.....

  • June 10, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Shia Labeouf as the Galactus cloud in FF3!!!

    by Forestal

    You heard it here first!!!!

  • June 10, 2007, 4:59 p.m. CST

    John_T_Chance

    by Tripman5000

    Just post it here mate-rather than submit it!More chance of getting seen!

  • June 10, 2007, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Deus Vult...

    by Brians Life

    Just wanted to chime in here...I'm 27 and live in Los Angeles. Me and most of my friends work in film or television and EVERY male I know has AT LEAST heard of Harry Knowles or Ain't It Cool News...many use it as a spot to catch up on talking points..."oh did you hear that so and so is doing this...."

  • June 10, 2007, 5:02 p.m. CST

    yes nelwack you are 100% correct sir (or madam)...

    by Deus Vult

    and I give you lots and lots of credit on the point you made. I think the problem comes from the studio execs not funny understanding what they're financing.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Don't get me wrong...I agree with ya...

    by Brians Life

    that studio heads don't give a lick what WE think, and I'm glad they don't. I can't think of anything worse than basing your vision on what a bunch of people that can't agree want...but directors and producers DO scour these talkbacks. It's a fact. There are some that actively avoid them when they used not to, to obstain from influence or simply not wanting to hear your name trased. Looking at you, Ratner! Anyone see his guest spot on ENTOURAGE!? Man, he's even comes across as a genuine douche when he's ACTING like a pretend douche.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Frank Mussolini reviews LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD

    by Spacesheik

    "It was great, we Italians cheered when Bruce Willis saved our beloved Roberto Benigni from the clutches of a sadistic hacker."

  • June 10, 2007, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Please stop with the Harry Pooter references...

    by Boober

    The stories are so linear that they bore me to tears. New School Year = lots of kids/teachers in robes with Bird's Eye view of Hogwarts and Chamber gatherings. Look out, a mysterious threat. Bad things happen. For emphasis, someone might die. WOW, HARRY SAVED THE DAY...AGAIN. YAWN.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Brian I hear ya fella

    by Deus Vult

    but you can refer back to my previous post as it all goes back to sheer numbers. I bet you and your boys are some cock-strong ass kickers. I know I was at 27. but as guys age and get married and have babies (remember I'm in a red state (like harry although you won't know he is I'm in texas too)) they get disconnected from the second tier pop culture. harry and his site may seem first tier for your and your LA crew but for the rest of the 299,999,000 people in the usa he's an unknown.<p>thus I just don't see how or why a studio would issue a plant review to this site. not enough people to affect ticket sales, which is what my whole point is about in the first place--DOLLARS!!!<p>lastly, and do not take this the wrong way, but the world doesn't revolve around LA or NYC. I know thats hard for new yorkers and LA folk to understand but its the truth. backwater houstonians and texans and americans in general will see this movie without ever having read the supposed plant review and been to this site or heard about our dear old harry. this is all I'm saying in the end!

  • June 10, 2007, 5:12 p.m. CST

    You guys ever hear of Golden Corral?

    by nelwack

    Its this buffet place here in eastern washington. They make cheapo but delicious diner food. I'm going there right now. Anyhow, Fantastic Four looks stupid but I'll see it, just like the last one. Just like Elektra, Blade, Daredevil and soon Transformers. I bitch and moan, but in the end I'll be buying some hollywood big whig a new Porche or supplying some actor with coke and weed. And so will you all. You will all file into the theatre like cattle looking forward to coming home and posting "hey guys I was right! The movie was dumb! And I have ten dollars less in my wallet...."

  • June 10, 2007, 5:15 p.m. CST

    I HAVE SOLVED THE MYSTERY OF DON MURPHY

    by Deus Vult

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Murphy<p>finally at long last!

  • June 10, 2007, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Wait, you mean some of the people here...

    by WONKABAR

    aren't teenage-fanboys?

  • June 10, 2007, 5:17 p.m. CST

    FUCK FANTASTIC FOUR:RISE OF SILVER SURFER

    by lost.rules

    FUCK HOSTEL was easier to write.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:19 p.m. CST

    well wonkabar I'm not sure about that

    by Deus Vult

    although I'm 32 and male and married I oft feel I'm nothing more than a teenage fan boy in an adult's body.<p>but with that said I wouldn't be surprised if the overwhelming majority of readers are in fact just like me. <p>and for the record I'm not trolling for young boys. or young girls for that matter. now if there's any 22 year old female strippers from the houston galleria area who are coked out of their minds and want to help movitate my wife into her first three-way please hollah at a brutha.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Deus...agree with you on all points...

    by Brians Life

    I agree with your point, completely. And I'm not saying that THIS guy is a plant or that it's as active as half the talkbackers would have you believe...but I believe that it does happen. Guerrilla marketing is a real industry and the executive world is typically a few steps behind in common senses & excells at underestimating their consumers...alot of film advertisers LOVE the idea of people being pitched to without ever knowing it.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:22 p.m. CST

    A positive review?

    by Z 008

    MUST be a plant I'll take any positive reviews and hope the movies great or at least good.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Dude...

    by WONKABAR

    I find coked-out strippers on AICN all the time.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Regarding the Age of the Average Talkbacker

    by Brians Life

    I dunno. I'd say the ignorance I'd witnessed from a good amount of talkbackers and the immature rattle of "I'll see ANY movie with Jessica Alba/Angelina Jolie/Kristen Bell/Big Fucking Robots/Shiny Objects in a tight suit!" makes me believe that more often than not I'm talking to some one that has yet to graduate high school. I'm pretty cynical though. Oh, and the HATERS shit...man, that's tired.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Playkins, emeraldboy, et al...

    by Ribbons

    You all seem to be ignoring the numerous cries of "hater!" that crop up whenever someone has the 'audacity' to criticize a big movie. People definitely seem to trust more cynical reviews on this site, I'll give you that, but sometimes a review is obviously bogus (in any definition of the word you'd like). And did you ever think that some people implicitly trust negative reviews because they're less likely to have a (studio-related) agenda? People say "plant!" way too often, but half-hearted attempts at psychoanalysis like "it's cool to be negative" are equivalent.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:29 p.m. CST

    galactus

    by huggerorange

    ive got galactu's torso from the marvel action figures..it came with deathlok i think. I didnt care to buy any other action figures to finish forming the huge galctus figure..so the torso is now my dogs favorite chew toy. What ever happend to the Deathlok movie they were supposed to make???

  • June 10, 2007, 5:32 p.m. CST

    wonkabar you magnificent bastard...

    by Deus Vult

    I have to say that was pretty damn funny. I needed a laugh too. my wife is watching ed norton and naomi watts in "the painted veil" and boy is it a snoozer!

  • June 10, 2007, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Yes!

    by PATMAN37

    I'd rather read 10000 fake reviews before I read Harry's FF2 review..I need to know about how he did 2 loads of dark laundry, loaded the dish washer and cut the grass in the back yard..not the front..just the back..2 hours before going to see the movie. Yeah..I need to know ALL of that!

  • June 10, 2007, 5:39 p.m. CST

    banned ff movie

    by huggerorange

    when i was on vacation in mexico about 10 years ago. I was watching one of their cable channels and they were showing the banned version of the Fantastic four..it didnt look too bad , but i didnt stay to watch the entire movie. I shouldve timer recorded it. Im sure there are bootleg versions of this on ebay.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:40 p.m. CST

    and as for Brian you've risen above the aggregate

    by Deus Vult

    in the points you've made. I really didn't know about the whole "guerilla marketing" concept but I'm not surprised it exists.<p>and as for the studio execs being behind the times, I sell two kinds of software--one that doesn't matter to this conversation but the other is relevant. it's a web-based solution which delivers board of directors their board meeting agendas through the site as opposed to the age-old method of printing and mailing or using a courier. it's about half the cost of the archaic method, but the overwhelming majority of execs refuse to use the site if the company buys it or even consider using a laptop or the web if they're only weighing buying the software. as such, you're 100% right when you say the execs are behind the times by a year or two or more (make it 10+ in this case).

  • June 10, 2007, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Silver Surfer theater standup...

    by Quake II

    I saw a 1:1 Silver Surfer statue riding his board last night at the theater I went to. I want it. BAD.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Ha ive found one..check out

    by huggerorange

    Ha ive found one..check out this version of the Thing in the 1994 movie http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-FANTASTIC-FOUR-Movie-1994-nuff-said-MMMS_W0QQitemZ160125444662QQihZ006QQcategoryZ617QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

  • June 10, 2007, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Yeah, there're dudes that come here and elsewhere

    by WONKABAR

    specifically to pimp movies etc. and get paid to do so. I have met them. Hollowood does it all. Glad to be magnificent Deus! Btw, I guarantee you that most of the people here look like this http://tinyurl.com/ytut6t

  • June 10, 2007, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Does no one else think Galactus looks f'n gay!!??

    by alienindisguise

    This isn't called the Galactus movie, morons. I'd rather just see a faint outline...to see that homo looming large over the earth would just be laughable as most need to realize that just because it works in a comic doesn't mean it will work in a film..jeez.

  • June 10, 2007, 5:54 p.m. CST

    i have no afiliations with

    by huggerorange

    i have no afiliations with pimping movies for hollywood..I wish i did

  • June 10, 2007, 5:58 p.m. CST

    I just checked out that you

    by huggerorange

    I just checked out that you tube video..damn that is some major cheese!!! But hey they were pretty faithful to the look of the comics

  • June 10, 2007, 6:03 p.m. CST

    thanks for the laugh

    by huggerorange

    thanks for the laugh Obnoxious bastard..I might even buy a copy of that fantastic4

  • June 10, 2007, 6:04 p.m. CST

    hey wonka-----

    by Deus Vult

    is that an old nintendo power glove on that right hand?

  • June 10, 2007, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Galactus won't be a cloud

    by George Edwards

    I was talking to someone who was involved in the post-production of FF: ROTSS film and as our conversation turned to Galactus, he confirmed to me that Galactus will not be a cloud. He said he will look much like the Galactus we know in comics. (very relieved if true). Has anyone else confirmed that Galactus is a person rather than a cloud?

  • June 10, 2007, 6:09 p.m. CST

    okay time for a break

    by Deus Vult

    okay wonka and brian's life its been fun but I can't stand watching this "painted veil" in the background any longer. I'm not sure how/why my wife chooses these terrible movies but I sure wish some execs would troll to hear my opinions on them. so with that said I'm going to take a break from the livingroom and the laptop. enjoy the rest of your evening. lovely chat and I appreciate the lack of insults and cursing. it's a rare moment on aicn when I can actually have a decent conversation on here, and even then it's usually with my brit and scot buddies.

  • June 10, 2007, 6:11 p.m. CST

    deus velt

    by huggerorange

    thanks for the warning deus velt.. i was about to rent the painted veil. I watched and rented the fountain instead. I may rent it anyway cause i cant stay away from naomi watts.Even if she is a tad on the thin side, she looked fuckin sexy in a bathing suit in i heart huckabees. I watched and rented the fountain instead...it was pretty good

  • June 10, 2007, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Power-Gloves...

    by WONKABAR

    and the internet are a dangerous combination.

  • June 10, 2007, 6:14 p.m. CST

    The saying hollywood raped my child

    by emeraldboy

    should be banned.

  • June 10, 2007, 6:17 p.m. CST

    The thing about "plants"...

    by Ribbons

    ...I agree that the sum of people swayed by plants (even if 100% of the people in this TalkBack were) would be negligible in the long run, but a negative review costs no money, and takes about 5 minutes to write. It's not so much an issue of whether our money is that valuable as it is an issue of 'why not?' I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that there are people out there who do that sort of thing. As long as you accept that one fake review has been written in the history of ever (and assuming that all 'plant' reviews would be written for the same reason), it's always a possibility.

  • June 10, 2007, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Galactus has a beer and cheats on his wife!!!

    by Jonny_Dr_Thunder

    I guess somebody had to type it. Oh yeah.. Thanks, Harry, for getting Memflix's extended take on this, and thank YOU, Memflix for chiming in on the Talkback and giving that fucking lame writer your two cents. I support you, brother!

  • June 10, 2007, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Cheers Deus.

    by WONKABAR

    Remember, Power-gloves & the internet are a dangerous combo. I'll steer clear of the flick buddy. Watch out for those Brits though, especially one's named Kirk. Peep the zone up above ^ (if you haven't already) and you'll see what I mean. Late

  • June 10, 2007, 6:21 p.m. CST

    emeraldboy

    by jackalcack

    George Lucas=original childhood rapist and then that evolved into 'Wachowskis raped my adulthood' but yeah, I agree with you, its fucking stale.

  • June 10, 2007, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Memflix is a liar

    by Colonel Activity

    I've seen this movie and it rocks.

  • June 10, 2007, 6:23 p.m. CST

    RE: Ha ive found one

    by Phategod1

    were the 90's really that bad?

  • June 10, 2007, 6:25 p.m. CST

    ALL HAIL SPIDERCOZ!

    by WONKABAR

    [/wink]

  • June 10, 2007, 6:28 p.m. CST

    RE: Memflix lying

    by Colonel Activity

    This is that movie about fly fishing with Brad Pitt in it, right? Fantastic Four: Rise of The Silver Surfer? It's about fly fishing, right? Memflix is a fucking liar.

  • June 10, 2007, 6:39 p.m. CST

    ShiftyEyedDog2:- Darkcityuk stupid or joking?

    by Darkcityuk

    Hello, i was going to say nobody could be that stupid but im afraid your post negated that comment an hour or so before it entered my head. Is your SOH shaped like a rock? Anyway in other news, i think what im waiting for from a comic book movie like X3 or FF2 is a cosmic battle on the scale of Matrix Revolutions. How many FX were in that movie and how much did it cost? actually i can accept the argument that the studios are making the movies for a wider audience. whatever. i want my super-hero war movie.

  • June 10, 2007, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Marvel Zombies vs. Army of Darkness

    by Joey_Redballs

    <html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 11"> <link rel=File-List href="Document1_files/filelist.xml"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:DocumentProperties> <o:Author>Joey</o:Author> <o:Template>Normal</o:Template> <o:Revision>1</o:Revision> <o:TotalTime>35</o:TotalTime> <o:Created>2007-06-10T23:10:00Z</o:Created> <o:Pages>1</o:Pages> <o:Words>448</o:Words> <o:Characters>2558</o:Characters> <o:Lines>21</o:Lines> <o:Paragraphs>5</o:Paragraphs> <o:CharactersWithSpaces>3001</o:CharactersWithSpaces> <o:Version>11.5606</o:Version> </o:DocumentProperties> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Print</w:View> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.SpellE {mso-style-name:""; mso-spl-e:yes;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family: Arial'>About Marvel Zombies vs. Army of Darkness...</span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I really enjoyed the origin story of the Marvel <span class=SpellE>Zombieverse</span> Fantastic Four.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Issue #4 of 5 is out now.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>I wonder if Bruce Campbell gets any money for them using his likeness in <span class=GramE>comics?</span><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Check out these guerrilla interviews that I did with Bruce Campbell and Macho Man Randy Savage.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>I got the <span class=SpellE>YouTube</span> with spaces, and <span class=SpellE>tinyurl</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVuKoAn9RxQ<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'>http://tinyurl.com/248xr9<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>About the FF2 movie, do NOT go see it opening night/weekend. Since the previews suck (and the original was capital G-A-Y) then it can wait. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I suggest reading real <span class=SpellE>Talkbackers</span>' reviews after it’s out, <span class=GramE>then</span> make your decision.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>If it's another <span class=SpellE>turd</span> sandwich, don’t see it at a theater. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Wait for DVD, rent it, or better yet watch a burned copy with your buddies so you can <span class=GramE>pause</span> it and rag on the film. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Or better yet, make up a drinking game…or take a drink every time something gay happens. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But remember, if the movie really sucks you could die of alcohol poisoning…set a limit…and please don’t drink and drive.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>P.S. I saw Hostel 2.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>I also saw the live G4TV interview with Eli Roth on Friday.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>He compared Hostel 2 to The Road Warrior and Aliens (being that those are awesome sequels).<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Its beginning is more like Maniac Cop 2.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>And its ending is very unsatisfying.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>If you introduce a very, very bad guy…a child killer of all things possible…he should get snuffed.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>And the heroine isn’t much of a hero at all.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>The basic premise of the ending was VERY predictable.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>One line at the Harvest Festival gave it all away.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>I want to see a third Hostel where the whole fucking village gets obliterated except the mean-ass kids.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>And then I wouldn’t end it there.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Remember the ending of Jay &amp; Silent Bob Strikes Back, where they actually get on a plane and kick everyone’s ass who talked shit about them on the Internet.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>I would want the almost the same ending, except all the sick, rich bastards get lynched all around the world.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Maybe their list of elite clientele could get exposed online complete with video evidence.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Then a montage of the repercussions follows.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I GIVE HOSTEL part II, 2 out of 4 stars.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>I gave Hostel part I 3 out of 4 stars for being fairly original, and for mixing genres.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>And to Eli Roth if you’re reading, I bought HOSTEL part I on DVD (complete with Best Buy exclusive bloodhound dog temporary tattoo).<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>I’m going to “rent to own” Hostel part II, then put my copy in a plain paper sleeve and slide it inside my Hostel part I DVD case.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family: Arial'>P.P.S.</span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> I saw Ocean’s 13.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Yes, I watch too many movies.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>I thought 13 was FAR better than 2, but still not as a fresh or fun as part 1.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><span class=GramE>BUT WORTH SEEING.</span><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>There are no breathtaking effects so you can wait for DVD.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>It’s not a big screen must see.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Hopefully Hostel part 3 will be even more satisfying of a sequel as Ocean’s 13.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Yes, there is a loophole for doing a GOOD Hostel part 3 (the blonde girlfriend of the first movie’s lead).<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>BTW, Hostel Part II does not suck as much as Ocean’s 12.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </body> </html>

  • June 10, 2007, 6:53 p.m. CST

    SUPER SKRULLS!

    by wilsonfisk89

    ... In the commercial for the VIDEO GAME make the game look way cooler than the movie.

  • June 10, 2007, 7 p.m. CST

    Darkcityuk

    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    If you were, in fact, just joking, then I do apologize. But that tone didn't come across in your post, so I (and probably most everyone else) assumed you were serious.

  • June 10, 2007, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Wait a god-damn minute here....

    by TheAllSeeingEye

    Let me get this straight. First, Roy is supposedly a plant/fox stooge first, then he's accused of not actually seeing it but, incase you've not refreshed the main article, memflix now corroborates, in a way, exactly what Roy said about Galactus being in it. So....who says he hasn't seen it? And in that case, why didn't memflix mention that "snippet" of information before Roy put his review in?<br><br>Now the film may or may not be shit, i like to read reviews but I usually reserve Judgement for myself. However, this fucking bullshit of calling people liars/plants simply because they have a positive thing to say about the movie is getting rediculous. Infact, Harry and Co should have a pre-defined talkback template where every other post screams "plant".

  • June 10, 2007, 7:15 p.m. CST

    So after previews FOX cut 30 minutes and Photoshopped

    by Mace Tofu

    a shadow of Galactus head into the storm cloud at the end for 2 seconds. The Preview audiences have spoken. Yeah!

  • June 10, 2007, 7:18 p.m. CST

    I hope GALACTUS yells " NOOOOOOOOO" as the SS zaps him.

    by Mace Tofu

    Just like Vader did, that was SO COOL.

  • June 10, 2007, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Should just put the first film version out, finally...

    by bgart13

    You know, the one Roger Corman produced that was supposed to be just awful? I mean, hell -- shouldn't it at least be available on dvd by now? At least Chris Evans is eye-candy. I won't pay $ to see it, but it'll be on cable next year and I'll watch it then at a friend's house.

  • June 10, 2007, 7:35 p.m. CST

    ShiftyEyedDog2 dont apologise

    by Darkcityuk

    Get a sense of humour. Its called being silly.

  • June 10, 2007, 7:36 p.m. CST

    A guy named STALIN mentioning an SS MOVIE...

    by siouxfire

    fascists gotta eat

  • June 10, 2007, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Im going to kill myself

    by Darkcityuk

    i cant believe im having a bitching session with some loser with no sense of humour on an internet message board. I wouldnt mind but what that essentially means is that ive got nothing better to do. And i truely havnt untill my thigh-master arrives next thursday.

  • June 10, 2007, 7:49 p.m. CST

    by...

    by RetroActive

    Well said, my friend. Well said. I guess my issue is...if Galactus appears in our own image, why would we envision the big belt buckle and that massive, trash can with boomerang handles helmet? Wouldn't he just look like a Joan Rivers or something?!! I mean...she's pretty scary looking!

  • June 10, 2007, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Can't wait to see who's right.

    by wadi77

    There is a little scene in the end credits. My local distibutor here in my county comfirms that.

  • June 10, 2007, 8 p.m. CST

    Internet Watergate

    by Phategod1

    Atthis point I think I need a Fox Official to make sense here clearly one of these two Douches is lying. the reviews are two different Roy is telling truth great I will actually pay to see this and disregard all Memflix future reviews, If Memflix is telling truth Fox continues it brutal assault on License properties.

  • June 10, 2007, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Yay, a shiny new AICN meme!

    by Ribbons

    How many bemused observations that people more readily accept negative reviews than positive reviews can this TalkBack hold? I've said it before, so saying it again is probably an even bigger waste of time, but to wit: if there's any reason that we're more likely to trust negative reviews than positive reviews, it's because they're less likely to be "selling" us something, except for maybe their crappy website. Plus? This dude isn't exactly the poster boy for a trustworthy (or well-written) positive review. Seriously, it wouldn't take much work to pass this off as a Neill Cumpston joint. Unless "COOL AS BALLS!" is some sort of slang that the young people say.

  • June 10, 2007, 8:22 p.m. CST

    It's a movie about superheroes...

    by JusticeSabre

    ...beating the crap out of each other. <br> <br> What do you want? Shakespeare?! <br> <br> It's a comic book movie... SHEESH!

  • June 10, 2007, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Galactus

    by groorgman

    So basically what we all want to know is does the Galactus suit have nipples?

  • June 10, 2007, 8:33 p.m. CST

    The Terrible Secret of Plants

    by Jack Gladney

    Every time a plant comes here and tries to mimic a normal human review, we stomp it soundly and declare victory. And why should we not? The plants threaten all that we have built here, this life we've carved out here, this refuge from the studio machine...But here is the catch: every time we beat down a plant, it slinks away to its masters...and it LEARNS. When we point out its weak spots, it takes a lesson in being human. Every battle we win, every victory feeds a future defeat. For the plants are learning, learning what it means to be human. And one day they WILL trick us. We will take a plant for a human, take its review seriously, and we will be destroyed. A reckoning approaches, and I do not know what can be done. Something dark is coming, and I fear I may be too old to fight it off this time...

  • June 10, 2007, 8:37 p.m. CST

    tv spot during family guy

    by themidnighter23

    giant cloud of space trash

  • June 10, 2007, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Hello Gabriel, love the new name

    by pjdon

    whats crackin?

  • June 10, 2007, 8:45 p.m. CST

    I have the answer - you're ALL plants

    by Doctor_Sin

    It's the only logical answer to this madness.

  • June 10, 2007, 8:51 p.m. CST

    I can always tell your style

    by pjdon

    it's very 'IN YOUR FACE'.

  • June 10, 2007, 9 p.m. CST

    How many times have you been banned now?

    by pjdon

    Feel free to answer me in a offensive way if will contribute to your goal.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:09 p.m. CST

    "Cool as colostomy"

    by darthbinks1220

    Just think, an artifical anus in your abdomen! Now that's cool as balls.........

  • June 10, 2007, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Hey, IM..SUPER SERIAL...

    by wallywest74

    You just posted on a public spoiler website that your title is Rapeist and that you "fuck kids". Listen, if this is your idea of joke, not funny. That is real fucking serious shit, that has hurt lots of people. Hope you will never forget that you wrote those words, and are forever ashamed, especially after you have some kids. Hey AICN, as a fan from the begining, please ban this stupid Fuck.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:16 p.m. CST

    Fox's new hire?

    by mimsyfancypants

    Maybe Fox should consider hiring a new "plant." Maybe someone a little more educated, well spoken, over the age of 15.... Memflix, submit your resume and include a copy of your review and a copy of Roy's review.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:16 p.m. CST

    I just got off the phone with Tim Story

    by McClane_Corleone

    He said he hoped you liked his review.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Wallywest74

    by darthbinks1220

    Problem is, said poster will be back w/ another criminally offensive screen name.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Negative Man is right on the mark.

    by Uncapie

    I deal with those suit dipshits everyday. Most of them wouldn't know an f stop from a bus stop, let alone any kind of history reguarding film or television. When I was pitching a comedy script to a nameless story editor for an even worse tv series(I told him it would be cancelled before the third year. I was right.) I said that you have to make the lead character like Mary Tyler Moore and everyone else around her zany like Dick Van Dyke, Morey Amsterdam and Rose Marie. He said, "What show was that?" Dildo. Still, I got to have dinner with Morey Amsterdam and his wife before he died and he said I had talent. That's good enough for me for writing that script. Like Louie B. Mayer once said, "You can smear shit on celluloid and the public will go see it." Doesn't matter if your the next Charles Dickens or Ray Bradbury; its all about how much money it bings in.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Understood...

    by wallywest74

    But, still would love to let his mom know that he "fucks kids". Hope this fuck gets shived in the eye.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:32 p.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack

    by pjdon

    how can you say the director of Barbershop is not the perfect choice for a big budget comic book movie?<p>

  • June 10, 2007, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Big Damn Tornado had chosen Bayformers...here's why:

    by DrPeterVenkman

    Kurt Russel was laughing at this year's little miss flames on optimus and chest bumping fat kids > nipples on batman and Silver Surfer's balls gotta eat! Or something....<p> Oh yeah, and the interweb is teh suck.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:36 p.m. CST

    I'm hoping that if The Incredible Hulk

    by pjdon

    is a success than hollywood will realise that they don't have to franchise each comic. That they can just let people make standalone comic book movies.<p>We shouldn't have to say 'oh, they fucked up FF, that's it. Maybe in 10 years or so they will try it again.'<p>We should be able to say 'oh they fucked up a FF movie, oh well so-and-so is making an alternitive one next year.<p>I'd love someone to do a Dark Knight Returns movies, an alternative Superman movie, a new Spiderman etc.<p>I think we'd be less pissed about them fucking up once in a while then

  • June 10, 2007, 9:40 p.m. CST

    trust a man called ROY STALIN?!

    by Obscura

    i think not! to be honest, this film was doomed from the second they cast the FIRST FF movie....ill still see it, but im not expecting much, the trailers havent impressed me at all... and also, living in england, it concerns me how many people loved the first one here.... so i'd much rather side with the yank who proved he knows his FF history.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:44 p.m. CST

    JusticeSabre

    by jfp2007

    You obviously don't know jack or shit about the content of comic books and how advanced the storytelling and character development can be (that goes along with everyone beating the shit out of one another), so feel free to shut the fuck up anytime you fell like it. In fact, here you go: http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/10/162213/stfu.jpg

  • June 10, 2007, 9:45 p.m. CST

    You are an arrogant prick.

    by darthbinks1220

    Of course, I'm just wasting my breath.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:46 p.m. CST

    IM..SUPER SERIAL CHILDHOOD RAPEIST:

    by Playkins

    I hope the attention you're getting is gratifying. I'll bet you're something like my college roommate- locking herself up in her room all day painting "cry for help" portraits of herself covered in blood and crucifixes.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:50 p.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack here is how the meeting

    by pjdon

    for choosing the director of Superman Returns went:<p>Executive No 1: "Ok so we messed up with Batman n Robin and we need to make Superman, they seem to be doing great with those Marvel films." <p>Exec No 2: "So what are they doing right?"<p>Exec No 1: "Well they hired directors who are respected and have done interesting films and can bring something interesting to each movie. They hired Sam Rami for Spiderman and Brian Singer for Xmen. So I guess we should hire someone like Brian Singer who would treat Superman with resect."<p>Exec No 2: "So we should hire Brian Singer?"<p>Exec No 1: "No, I said we should hire someone 'like' Brian Singer, you know an independant director."<p>Exec No 2: "So we hire Brian Singer?" <p>Exec No 1: "No we find someone who has made some interesting films that are not your typical Hollywood movies so they can bring some integrity to Superman. You know the way Brian Singer had made the Usual Suspects. We need to find someone like that." <p>Exec No 2: "So we hire Brian Singer?" <p>Exec No 1: "No!....Oh forget it, ok we'll just hire Brain Singer."

  • June 10, 2007, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Don't get me started on Superman Returns.....

    by darthbinks1220

    Exec No 3(me): Mr. Cameron, I'll give you a 300 million budget for Supes/Doomsday.

  • June 10, 2007, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Arrogant Prick doesn't mean bad person.

    by darthbinks1220

    Perhaps I wuz wrong. :)

  • June 10, 2007, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Exec No 4 (me):

    by pjdon

    "Mr Spielberg, will you show us how a Superman movie should be made?"<p>I always thought the Berg would be a perfect choice for Superman. He knows epic. He knows americana.

  • June 10, 2007, 10 p.m. CST

    Every Marvel Films Meeting EVER...

    by Brians Life

    Basically it begins with Avi Arad complaining about how a whole 3 months has gone by and another Marvel film is not in hastily thrown together, badly farmed out, childishly scripted, hurriedly casted, nauseatingly directed AS CHEAP AS GODLY POSSIBLE production. Then he puts on a Comic Book T-shirt, has a whiskey and hires either Mark Steven Johnson or Tim Story.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:01 p.m. CST

    It's Cumeron, snapperhead!

    by darthbinks1220

    lol

  • June 10, 2007, 10:02 p.m. CST

    SUPER SERIAL is right

    by pjdon

    I think Cameron will remind us what a real event movie is like.<p>I have a feeling Avatar will blow us away like T2 did.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:03 p.m. CST

    JEEZ...Superman Returns makes me wanna meet Singer...

    by Brians Life

    ....so that I can go over with him a POINT by POINT list of exactly how and by how much he MISSED THE FUCKIN' POINT!!!

  • June 10, 2007, 10:06 p.m. CST

    This Very Same Thing Happened For X3

    by Renholder

    Don't you guys remember? Some fanboy dropped a review that hailed X3 as a huge mutant war film that surpassed all in its badassness. This is the same exact thing, only its someone trying to care about a franchise that has nothing go for it.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Bringing...WELL SAID.

    by Brians Life

    On the spot, dude. Sadly I think that directors are getting clout now much earlier in their careers and these days ain't like they used to be...whole lot more "yes" men around. But Lucas the the PRIME example of what happens when a director runs every aspect of production and doesn't trust the people to do their jobs and has no support system to keep him in check.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:10 p.m. CST

    As I have always said

    by pjdon

    I was more dissapointed with SR than something terrible like FF.<p>With FF it's easy just to hate it all.<p>SR was good in quite a few ways, and it never raped the character. It was all just a repeat of what had gone before with all the humor taken out.<p>It still annoys me that Singer was so adament about not doing an origin movie because he thought it took up too much of the plot time and had been done too mant times.<p>So he goes and does a sequal which is structured like an origin movie. <p>It even had Superman craching on earth, the Daily Planet covering his return etc. It was all an origin movie without the interesting origin bits.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:11 p.m. CST

    I thought my "Cool as colostomy" post was in bad taste.

    by darthbinks1220

    Don't you just love the web?! lol

  • June 10, 2007, 10:13 p.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack - LOTR

    by pjdon

    suceeded because Jackson surrounded himself with tallent. I remember watching the web dirys for SR and seeing Singer act so up himself. He should have been humbled for doing the film. <p>He should have made it his own instead of being a big pussy and remaking Donners film.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Superman Returns

    by Brians Life

    Agreed, pjdon. I also think that SR owes some of it's financial lagging to the fact that (unlike Batman Begins) America has a whole didn't feel like they NEEDED to see Superman Returns. Some didn't get or care that it was an extension of the originals and others felt it was unnecessary. Like Spider-Man 3, Superman Returns is in a way the WORST type of movie. There's a good movie in there...SOMEWHERE, just not in what we saw.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:16 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight will dwarf Begins

    by darthbinks1220

    260 million domestic, 500 worldwide.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:17 p.m. CST

    I for one really enjoyed Spiderman 3

    by pjdon

    But is was not half the movie Spiderman 2 was.<p>It is often easier to deal with something being terrible that it being ok or nearly good. Kind of makes it more painful seeing the greatness just out of reach.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:18 p.m. CST

    DarthBinks...

    by Brians Life

    ...are you from the future?

  • June 10, 2007, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Brian's Life

    by darthbinks1220

    I disagree why it lagged. SR made squat because it reeked. No one asked for Batman 5. Instead, they got the TRUE Batman 1. Burton's "Joker" is waaaay overrated.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Spider-Man 3 is even scaled....

    by Brians Life

    In that, there is just as much that I fucking LOVED about Spider-Man 3 as there is that I didn't like. Sucks, 'cause Spidey 2 is my favorite comic flick.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Brian's Life II

    by darthbinks1220

    Begins grossed 205, 371. Nolan laid the new foundation. Ledger's Joker will range far wider than Ras. Call me Nostradamus, wiseass.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:23 p.m. CST

    darthbinks1220 I don't think any

    by pjdon

    Superman film would have made more. If your a teenage kid then the idea of Spiderman or Batman is probably really cool. But to a teenager I get the idea Superman is kind of gay. It's all too boyscoutish.<p>He is still my favorite superhero though.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Batman Begins IS Batman.

    by Brians Life

    Darth, I agree that it reeked. But so did X-Men 3, but the general public was excited about it. A SUPERMAN movie SHOULD get the public really excited. Burton's Batman is totally dated now. I watched it last week and it sort of came across as "amateurish" in a way. Just to stay on Talkback Topic....Fantastic Four will more than likely suck.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:26 p.m. CST

    reviewers I.D. revealed on other talkback

    by mr dark

    jb brox figured it out Roy Stalin = Story in LA Just rearrange the letters... How fuckin cool..

  • June 10, 2007, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Ya know.....I AM a wiseass..

    by Brians Life

    When did you get it in your knogging I didn't dig Batman Begins? Where was I?

  • June 10, 2007, 10:27 p.m. CST

    pjdon

    by darthbinks1220

    Spidey- Now there's a rebel! Btw Donner's Superman adjusts to a gross equivalent of Spidey I.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:32 p.m. CST

    What makes me excited for the Dark Knight

    by pjdon

    is the fact that any faults with BB can be put down to Goyers script and Nolan being new to the big movie thing. With his experiance of the 1st film, having worked with Bale again on the Prestige, having his brother do the script and the studio probably having much more faith in him this time we should be getting a vastly superior sequal to an almost perfect film.<p>Although I would have said Spiderman 3 would have been perect if you had asked me a year ago.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Brians Life

    by darthbinks1220

    I just made a comment that Dark Knight will dwarf Begins at the box office. Hardly an "out on the limb" prediction.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:38 p.m. CST

    darthbinks I think SR

    by pjdon

    made that much because a wide range of people went to see it.<p>A lot of older people who remember the originals, little kids and a lot in between.<p>A superman film is always going to make a lot because he is better known than Jesus but it didn't really set the world on fire like they thought it would.<p>I though they handled the marketing quite badly. All they needed to do was plaster the logo all over the world. I even thought it was crap having Superman on the poster instead of just the logo.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Superman needs a challenge.

    by darthbinks1220

    Bring on Doomsday, James!

  • June 10, 2007, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Where is Superninja?

    by pjdon

    I always enjoy her points of view when it comes to comic book films?<p>If everyone whistles at once she might come.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:50 p.m. CST

    It always seemed

    by pjdon

    a bit of a waste for Superman to just catch and rescue things without breaking a sweat.<p>If in the next film he is paralyzide by Kryptonite instead of actually facing a worthy challenge I'll be pissed off.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Bad Buzz May Be Good

    by Roboteer

    It can actually be good to underpromise and overdeliver. Manage expectations. Best examples TITANIC and T3. Nothing like pleasantly surprising critics after the FF1 25% debacle and dreading to have to sit through another Tim Story affront. I'm skeptical myself, but I think the Galactus outline is the perfect solution. Just a hazy skyward glimpse at the Devourer of Worlds is more effective than the comic purple giant or cloud alone. I like that idea. Also the humanizing of Surfer which I think took a while for the comics to get to. If this guy is making up this positive stuff, he should have been Assistant Director, 'cause all that is exactly what FF2 needs to do. BTW, we have a life size Surfer at our multiplex, and though cool, maybe not as impressive as your imagination. Also someone mentioned the old low budget FF, I have a copy and it is pretty cheesy. But Doom might have been better realized and they got his relationship with Reed correct if I remember. There was also more heart in one scene than the whole Arad flick. It was a flashback where a tweener Sue is hopelessly in love with much older Reed. Basically, instead of dismissing her schoolgirl crush, he realizes she could be the love of his life too and waits years for her to come of age so they can be together. Instead of all the selfish bickering we last saw from the modern version. There's far more chemistry with these no-names than Alba/Gruffud. Yes it's hokey and laughable at times, but whaddaya expect for $4 M? At least there was respect for the material.... Okay, a couple of things here I think I'll never understand. Is it a geek thing to add all these acronyms to movie titles. Is FF:ROTSS easier as a quick abbreviation than FF2? I think not. Until we get to 6 movies ala STAR WARS, let's just keep it simple okay? SPIDEY3, PIRATES3, FF2. And they were never the F4, just FF. Also, someone explain how it can be some monumantal decision whether to plunk down a few bucks to see these pop culture/SFX extravaganzas at a matinee. And then make a big deal announcing it to the world. Last I heard we weren't in a depression. Second, if you got no interest and don't intend to see it, go jerk off somewhwere else. NOBODY CARES! Join the other 290,000,000 who wont see it the first weekend either. Yeah, that makes you really special. And with DVD's, merchandising, video games, cable, etc., nobody's losing sleep over your lousy six bucks. Really, it just makes you look like a part time fry cook at McD's or some kid waiting for his allowance. And, I think the same holds true about proudly declaring you're willing to risk it all to buy a ticket. Nobody cares and it adds nothing to the discussion. So go away until you do see it and let the adults speculate awhile.

  • June 10, 2007, 10:59 p.m. CST

    PINKHISTORYBUFF...

    by cornponious

    "If Memflix was a "liar" why would he have his own website? www.memflixbeyond.com" You mean like Supershadow??? HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • June 10, 2007, 11 p.m. CST

    To be fair--

    by zb.brox

    Mr Dark came up with in la, I was stumped there. If it really is Story, that'd be reaaallly sad.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Darth...

    by Brians Life

    Sorry for the misunderstanding. my "are you from the future" was meant as more playful than derisive. i can see how you'd immediately think i was mocking ya seeing the immediate hate this site usually produces.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:02 p.m. CST

    but maybe Memflix IS Supershadow...

    by cornponious

    hmmmmm....

  • June 10, 2007, 11:06 p.m. CST

    zb.brox I doubt Story

    by pjdon

    cares that much to do something like that. Even reading interviews he just seems quite vauge like he's been asked to paint somones house, I doubt he has even bothered reading much FF. It's all just another Barbershop cash in hand summer job for him.<p>I always wonder how people like him even get into directing. He probably got into it by accident.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:08 p.m. CST

    It could be one of Story's friends.

    by superninja

    <>

  • June 10, 2007, 11:08 p.m. CST

    FOS.

    by superninja

    Friend of Story.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:10 p.m. CST

    I'm just gonna come out and say it.

    by McClane_Corleone

    Galactus gotta eat.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:10 p.m. CST

    pjdon--

    by zb.brox

    Seems unlikely to me, too, but then it would seem to me that whoever this guy is is hatchet-jobbing Story in the process, 'cause that can't really be a coincidence...

  • June 10, 2007, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Superman's biggest obstacle is himself.

    by superninja

    Because he is moral, it is presenting moral and ethical challenges to him and having him be severely tested but succeed. Doomsday kills Superman and there is no point in making that into a movie - he's a stunt character like Darth Maul. Or maybe Eli Roth can make that Superman film. <p> Superman needs Darkseid. The cartoon exploited this most excellently. Luthor also should always be hovering around in the background, they need to steer clear of formula and concern themselves with the power struggles between these individuals based on their different worldviews.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:17 p.m. CST

    The Tim Story Show:

    by pjdon

    Tim's Friend: 'Hey Tim, what you doing at the moment?'<p>Tim: 'Oh, erm, wait, oh yeh I had to direct this film, the Fab Four'<p>Tim's Friend: 'You mean Fantastic Four?'<p>Tim: 'Oh yeah, thats it, sorry I don't even know what I'm doing half the time. It's like that summer they got me working in that barbershop.'<p>Tim's Friend: 'Wasn't that a film you where making? It was just set in a barbershop.'<p>Tim: 'Oh yeah, films, right. I was never that into films. There boring. Dunno why they keep getting me to make them.'<p>Tim's Friend: 'I don't want to be your friend anymore Tim.'

  • June 10, 2007, 11:19 p.m. CST

    I think they should have the guts

    by pjdon

    to come up with someone new for Superman to go up against.<p>I don't think many of the comic villans would translate that well to screen.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:27 p.m. CST

    They could, but it would just be a derivation of

    by superninja

    some other supervillain, there are only a certain number of archetypes. Besides, we have yet to see: <p> Parasite, Darkseid, Braniac, The Real Lex Luthor, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Bizarro, Metallo, Mongul.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:27 p.m. CST

    They also need to

    by pjdon

    make Luthor into a realistc corporate villan. I liked him more in The Adventures of Lois and Clarke that I did in the movies. Having a person make plans to take over the world is just silly.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:29 p.m. CST

    The Animated Series Luthor is the best incarnation

    by superninja

    of Luthor ever. He is powerful and you understand why he commands respect, even sympathetic on a certain level even though he fails the challenge Superman presents.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:31 p.m. CST

    On Payola and HOSTEL2 Opening

    by Roboteer

    No better AICN suspicions than PIRATES3 pandering. But then gutted Spidey3? Something rotten here with that disconnect.... Somewhat disappointing HOSTEL2 open means hope for the culture is not entirely lost. However, these are getting more violent, more perverted. Maybe watching a girl get her face burned off with a blowtorch just loses something in translation for me as entertainment. As mentioned on today's SUNDAY MORNING SHOOTOUT show, slasher flicks are still can't miss moneymakers.... critic proof, cheap, no name stars, and actually great date movies. She grabs your arm throughout, maybe is shaken up a little from the gorey suspense, go back to her place, put on Shrek2, and Bada Bing! You're in. Or so they say. But if you want better stuff from Hollywood, these are the ones that should be boycotted (along with Reality Fake TV, don't get me started). P.S. Eli Roth and Zachary Quinto (Sylar), not just separated at birth, but definitely split in the womb. Uncanny evil coincidence.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Also they should limit Supermans powers a bit

    by pjdon

    He should have to break a sweat. If you fired a lot of guns at him he should at least get a bit bruised.<p>I didn't like how in SR some guy fired a gun straight in his eye and he did'nt even blink.<p>There is no-where to go with that kind of invincibiliy, it's imposible to create any kind of tension. I'd like to think that if the millitary decided to take on Supes he'd have a bit of a fight on his hands rather that bullets and misiles just pinging off him.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Yeah, the eyeball thing in SR was forced cool.

    by superninja

    The audience I saw it with ate it up, though. It annoyed the crap out of me. Of course his heart is his biggest weakness. That is why hurting innocent people or Superman unable to help people is so hard to watch. I don't know, I'm a softy for the big guy. Did you catch many episodes of the Animated Series and JLU? Great stuff.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:42 p.m. CST

    I like super-invulnerable Superman

    by zb.brox

    I think Superman's a metaphor first, and "invincible guy" is a better metaphor than "really tough guy".<br> 1: There are ways to beat a guy who's invincible other than playing with Kryptonite. Exploring those would be a lot more interesting than just making him not so invincible. 2: If he's invincible as all hell, when, say, Darkseid comes along and actually hurts him, it'll have a lot more impact. I mean, look at Superman 2--when Clark gets his ass kicked after being powerless, and he's shocked by the sight of his own blood, what's more powerful--that he's upset because this guy beat him up when he couldn't before, or he's upset because he has *never seen his own blood before*? I like the latter.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:49 p.m. CST

    I don't want him to be a wimp

    by pjdon

    but i think if someone is shooting a mini-gun at his chest he would have to put a little bit of effort into walking forwards.<p>If he can take a bullet to the eye without blinking then it was illogical that he had to stuggle to stop the plane at the start of the film.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:52 p.m. CST

    I also think that using

    by pjdon

    his laser eyes and powerful blowing is a bit of a cop-out. He never really got his hands dirty in SR.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:53 p.m. CST

    Like when He-Man pulls two landmasses together

    by superninja

    and then groans and grunts when he picks up and hurls a boulder. I get it. zb makes a good point about building him up to tear him down in terms of adding suspense. But he's vulnerable to magic and they have not explored that yet. <p> I'd like to see a Superman film having Mr. Mxy bookends where he tricks him into disappearing after conjuring something absurd while barely batting an eye. Then getting into the main story. Superhero films pretty much miss the absurd of the everyday, a feeling of a large universe where anything can happen, it seems too contrived and not magical/wondrous enough.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:55 p.m. CST

    SR is certainly not a good standard by which to

    by superninja

    judge Superman. The Animated Series and JLU run circles around it in every way.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Invinicbility and strength aren't the same thing...

    by zb.brox

    In comic continuity, Clark's invulnerability is supplemented by a solar-powered forcefield a millimeter from his skin. Personally, I like seeing Superman invulnerable to pretty much every mortal weapon. The only thing keeping him from ruling the world should be his conscience.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:58 p.m. CST

    This site gave several good reviews to OCEANS 13

    by lettersoftransit

    ...and it sucked. They tried to make up for spending five minutes writing the second film... and spent a whole half hour writing the third. now I it seems the biggest poing of it all is to play the game of guessing whether it's a plant pro or con. And that ain't so cool to me.

  • June 11, 2007, midnight CST

    I feel the same about them doing a Flash movie.

    by pjdon

    It would just seem un-dramatic in a film to have him be able to just get up to full speed and slow down in an instant. The whole him just appearing somewhere and all we see is a 'flash' is boring.<p>I want a Flash who has to accelerate and for him to need to slow down. It would be much more exciting than having him basicly teleport to wherver.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:02 a.m. CST

    He is vulnerable to magic and Kryptonite and

    by superninja

    energy weapons, to someone like Parasite or someone who can match his strength. Those are plenty of vulnerabilities. I do like him being stronger than everyone else. Of course his conscience is a big factor in how he exploits his powers, this was used well in JLU.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:05 a.m. CST

    There is some creative stuff you can do with Flash.

    by superninja

    I just want a fun movie with Gorilla Grodd and Flash being a wiseacre, nothing too serious or dark.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:05 a.m. CST

    lettersoftransit the majority of reviews

    by pjdon

    I have read everywhere gave O13 the thumbs up and a few people I know said it was much better than O12.<p>Only a few people seem to disagree, so I'll go with the majority.<p>Go over to the Empire Online site and read their review. It annoys me when people complain about plants and dodgy reviewers when they could just go and read some actual film journalist reviews.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:13 a.m. CST

    I just couldn't be arsed if they

    by pjdon

    used the same running effect from Smallville for the flash. It is so boring from a tension standpoint. Nobody has actually realised the whole super running on film yet. It just seemed like him and clarke where just running on the spot but moving really fast in smallville.<p>When you think about it each step should be a bound that covers great difference and stuff like stopping or tight turning should involve dramatic skidding for great distances.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Flash is awesome

    by zb.brox

    My favorite DC hero. And all you need to do to have his movie interesting is have him fight, A: another speedster (Zoom, Savatar, etc.), B: Someone with a forcefield and energy powers (Dr. Polaris, for example), C: someone with illusions, (Mirror Master), D: someone who's planned very, very well (Gorilla Grodd, Abra Kadabra...)<p>There's plenty of ways to go.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:20 a.m. CST

    In terms of the actual visual....

    by zb.brox

    You're right, no one's done it really well yet, but they certainly could. It's been done in animation in various animes and shit like that, they could do it live action.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:24 a.m. CST

    I don't mind the streaking effect. Just show us a

    by superninja

    few things we haven't seen before. Suggesting the powers and executing a great story with good characters is more important. They blow all of their budget on these boring-ass loooong special effects sequences when most of it can be done without being fully animated and it still needs to be d-i-r-e-c-t-e-d.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:24 a.m. CST

    I dont think bryan singer

    by huggerorange

    I dont think bryan singer will ever do a doomsday superman flick.. I feel that he'll hang up his superman gloves after the second one. SOmeone should make a Superman movie with the main villain being someone other than LEx or the evil triplets. I like Bryan Singer but he plays it safe too much.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:27 a.m. CST

    So, is Roy a plant?

    by hadez

    I've been waiting for a while to get the answer. I still support Memflix's review

  • June 11, 2007, 12:27 a.m. CST

    I'd like to see Parasite, or what about an Injustice

    by superninja

    Gang that ends up defeated only because of their bickering?

  • June 11, 2007, 12:30 a.m. CST

    superninja I do agree but I think if you limit

    by pjdon

    The Flashes powers you could have him trying to keep up with a car which is going at 100 mph or so and have a very dramatic chase scene. Like I said, having the Flash be infinately fast is just the same as teleportation when done on film.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:30 a.m. CST

    What about a Superman movie where all of the

    by superninja

    villains take turns relating how Superman handed them their tail in shame, to reveal they have joined up and then go to fight Superman at the end. In the meantime, justapose it with Superman's tendencies to do things alone and him finally having to reach out to someone else for help to defeat the Injustice Gang (like Luthor).

  • June 11, 2007, 12:35 a.m. CST

    that sounds like the plot

    by huggerorange

    that sounds like the plot for Blade 2

  • June 11, 2007, 12:35 a.m. CST

    Singer should be off of Superman for not even

    by superninja

    getting the point of the character.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:38 a.m. CST

    "Animated Luthor Best"

    by TheGreenStyle

    I'm not really able to keep up with this discussion, but I saw Superninja write that and I had to absolutely agree. The Clancy Brown-powered Lex Luthor of STAS, JL and JLU is just one of the coolest comic book foes of all time. he really is one smart, devious bastard!<br> <br> Which is why I get so annoyed with talkbackers whining "Luthor sucks no more Luthor bring on Darkseid!" Because if the movies did Luthor like the cartoons, it would be so fucking cool! (Plus, I've never been that impressed with Darkseid.)

  • June 11, 2007, 12:40 a.m. CST

    I think superninja you are right

    by pjdon

    in the fact that they need to start bringing comic book movies out of the same plot cycle.<p>They are essentially a sub genre all of their own and therfore they could do them in the style of any genre.<p>I always though doing Batman as a Assult on P13/Rio Bravo style movie would be cool.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:44 a.m. CST

    TAS was successful in making Luthor a fully

    by superninja

    realized character, not the car salesman Luthor Hackman was or the prison girl Spacey's Luthor was. The Clancy Luthor is petty but it's out of pride and frustration not pure ineptitude or lack of vision. Superman stole Metropolis's heart and Luthor built her. So it's like Supes stole his woman, and then he kind of did by turning Lois on him. They are mirror opposites. Superman is naturally gifted but lives for something bigger than himself, and Luthor had to scrape his way to the top (a self-made man) and lives only for himself and his own glory.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Yes, let's break convention.

    by superninja

    That why I liked the idea of the Green Arrow prison break movie. Other ideas. <p> A dethroned Aquaman wandering through the underwater kindgoms (Conan/Flash Gordon style) trying to restore his self respect and overthrow his tyrant brother. <p> Green Lantern movie where Hal Jordan is recruited into the GL Corps. after finding Abin Sur's ring and thrown into basic training at the beginning of an escalating intergalactic conflict. Platoon with aliens (and not as dark of course). <p>

  • June 11, 2007, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Spacey's Luthor was all the cheese of

    by pjdon

    Gene Hackmans but without ANY of the humor. I really wanted him to play it like he did with John Doe in Se7en except have him as the heas of Luthorcorp sat in a giant marble office at the top of a skyscraper, crisp black suit and no fucking comic sidekicks.<p>But what do we get...wigs and some stupid bitch.<p>Why would he even talk to someone like her?

  • June 11, 2007, 12:55 a.m. CST

    Because he's such a pathetic loser she's the only

    by superninja

    kind of woman who would put up with him. Not impressive at all. Actually I liked her character much better than his.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:57 a.m. CST

    That's right

    by pjdon

    they keep focusing on franchises and each movie has to follow on in some big story arc.<p>Why not just let any director take a pop at a random story within the life of a superhero. If the studios start doing multiple films based around one hero i.e. The Dark Knight alongside The Dark Knight Returns then they could start taking more risks without the fear of fucking up one long franchise.<p>Nite everyone.

  • June 11, 2007, 1:06 a.m. CST

    Perfect Fast Running on film example

    by bgart13

    Hell-o?! Adventures of Baron Munchausen! Gilliam got it right!

  • June 11, 2007, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Flames on Optimus, clouds on Galactus

    by Kragmose

    Knife wounds on Michael Bay.

  • June 11, 2007, 1:29 a.m. CST

    WOW..LOOK AT ALL THIS 'HUB BUB' RE:FF2...

    by warpspasm

    ALL THE GEEK MANEDESS ON THIS HERE SITE TELLS ME THE FILM IS A BONA FIDE HIT....

  • June 11, 2007, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Alright, here's what I think...

    by nonsensical

    I think the truth may lay somewhere between the two reviews. I think that you should believe Memflix so that your expectations are low and then maybe you'll get lucky and come out feeling like Roy did. <p> I'd bet that you actually might feel somewhere in the middle of these two which might actually deliver you a FF film that is better than the first one, but not quite what it could have been and really isn't that what we want. <p> Especially given the fact that Tim Story has already shown that he barely gets the FF characters and story. <p> Me, I actually liked the first FF film as Chris Evans really sold me on his portrayal of Johnny Storm and since he's my favorite of the four I was happy. So long as he's still good in this one I'll still like it. Maybe not as much as Roy but I don't think I'll hate it as much as Memflix. <p> As I said, somewhere in the middle. When I see it, I'll let you know.

  • June 11, 2007, 2:11 a.m. CST

    A GL film...

    by nonsensical

    So long as they deal with Jordan as a real character I'm in. I'd also like to see Jon Stewart and Kyle Rayner in the film. Though to be honest I'd prefer Jon to be in the end of the first and through the second and then have Kyle appear in the first as Kyle and then return in the end of the second. Then for a trilogy Hal takes center stage once again. <p> If I were to write a GL trilogy I would push the limits and cover all the bases. No comedy shit and definately no Jack Black as the GL. That would be dumb as hell. I would however include several of the GL Corps. <p> If you wanted a GL film what would be the plot points you would want to have hit?

  • June 11, 2007, 2:36 a.m. CST

    Nonsensical....MY Green Lantern movie.

    by Brians Life

    A GL movie. Damn, why does that seem like it's NEVER gonna happen? I'd begin the flick with Hal Jordan losing his mind as Green Lantern. His origin is established through some flashbacks while he's killing Corp members. Like as he's killing Killowog, we're also seeing Kilowog boot campin' him. Deep shit. The Guardians are flipping, attempting to stop him they even release Sinestro. Green Lantern is beaten by Sinestro on the moon with the help of the remaining Corp. Sinestro than kills all of them. so the guardians give a power ring to the first person they see on Earth...Kyle Rayner. We have some Spidey 1 getting to know the powers scenes and he's off to hunt down Sinestro. He beats Sinestro in a huge space battle only to find out that Hal Jordan has escaped from Oa. There's a huge battle between Kyle Rayner and Green Lantern....I'm stuck there...any thoughts? It's either THAT route or a straight up Hal Jordan origin a la NEW FRONTIER.

  • June 11, 2007, 2:39 a.m. CST

    Joe Satriani

    by Rikrik the White

    They better have included the classic Joe Satriani anthem "Surfing with the Alien" in this film, or I am walking out.

  • June 11, 2007, 4:09 a.m. CST

    I'm tired of Brian Singer's "allegories"...

    by Spacesheik

    of heroes not 'fitting in' of 'being outcasts' - he played card with the mutant movies and he had to do it again with Superman, a dour, slow, unexciting film with a stalker Superman, a terribly unthreatening Lex Luthor who wants to turn the world into Kryptonite islands, a son of superman story so ridiculous it was sad, a sequence where Superman gets the shit beaten out of him by thugs without being able to avenge that attack, too much prophet allegory ("you are their saviour son") and a climax consisting of Superman raising a large Kryptonite island and a visit to the hospital where he is operated on. What a piece of shit that film was. The only sequence that lived up to the original and the heroic, Superhero fun stuff was the 747 landing on the stadium set piece. And visually it had a drab, murky brown and dark gray look to it. It was a sad arsed affair. That film would have made $350 million domestic if it was action-packed, tense and exciting with effective villains. Instead it was a tedious soap opera. If I was a WB executive I'd give the sequel to anyone but Singer.

  • June 11, 2007, 6:03 a.m. CST

    This could just be me...

    by TheRedRightHand

    but I'm a London-born film critic (www.theredrighthand.co.uk) and I've been to countless screenings all over the UK, over the last 3 years. I must confess, not once have I been asked for my opinion. Any 'suits' were merely bouncers to deter pirates (with video cams, not eye patches...although that'd be a great place to hide a camera... make note of that!). To repeat what's already been said, this really does not sound like an English review, at all. Many things give it away, the Eye comment being primary - comparable only to the guy who made mention of 'featuring our pride and joy; the millennium dome' for The World Is Not Enough, years ago - anyone remember that? No? Just me? Point being, I hated the first film, I think the second will be an improvement but not by much. As for UK screenings, most were cancelled; I know mine was (mmm, Aeon Flux style). That is all, goodnight kids (rRh)

  • June 11, 2007, 6:21 a.m. CST

    Harry has chosen Grampa Jones to block, and here's why

    by BannedOnTheRun

    Me want Flash movie.

  • June 11, 2007, 6:51 a.m. CST

    3500 of my myspace friends loved the first one

    by Samson_K

    3500 of them hated it! See, that's the thing about Fantastic Four - I'm not a huge expert on the comics but from the ones that I read, and the Essential Fantastic Four volume I bought a while back I honestly don't see where these discrepancies between what the comic book characters are and their film counterparts? I didn't mind the first one, in fact I quite enjoyed it - I didn't like the way they portrayed Doom and thought that someone with a little more gravitas and authority would have been better - okay a lot more authority, but it was a fun Superhero movie and even my friend who hasn't liked a superhero film since Superman 2 quite enjoyed it. However I do realise that one mans poison is another mans chicken soup and realise that the first film was detested by a huge amount of people. I did not rate the above review because all it seemed to do was list spoilers just to prove a point. I trust the Memflix review a lot more but it doesn't affect the fact that I will see it because Memflix didn't like the first one and I did so his review may not be so relevant to me. I just have never seen a movie polarise audiences so much for a long time

  • June 11, 2007, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Fuck comics

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Yes, I said it. At least, I said it now that I know this talkback is petering out and very few people will harangue me for it.<p>Fuck comics. They are for children. If you are over the age of fourteen and still reading superhero comics, you are emotionally and intellectually stunted. Or, possibly, you are Nicolas Cage.<p>Anyway, my point is this: What the fuck is up with the surprise over Fantastic Four being a family-friendly comedy? Someone up above actually had the nerve to criticize Jessica Alba for describing the film as such. I ask you, what the hell else should it be? They are four people with preposterous super powers! How is our evolution as a species helped by people who think a film about a man who can stretch into strange shapes should be 'dark' and 'edgy'. You are holding us all back!<p>In conclusion, I am very much anticipating this retarded-looking film. It should be good, I think, and have a few funny moments plus some nifty special effects. Also, Jessica Alba.<p>P.S. No offense and that.

  • June 11, 2007, 8:37 a.m. CST

    not a plant.

    by brassai2003

    I'm going to see FF2 t-morrow at a press screening here in Charm Citayy. I'll let you know if this tool's a plant or not.

  • June 11, 2007, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Didn't the same guy say 'From Justin to Kelly"...

    by Damned if I can login

    ...rocked BALLS???<p>Just wondering.

  • June 11, 2007, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Franklin T Marmoset

    by just pillow talk

    I can't agree with your sentiment about comics being just for kids. There are certain graphic novels that people reference here all the time that I get the impression is more than just for kids. But that really isn't the issue. Whether it's for kids or not, it still shouldn't be a crappy movie that is not well made. THAT is the real issue. Sure, it can be fun and has some laughs, but it should not be dumbed down to the extent that it's a sham of a movie. Is it too much to ask that it be made like, I dunno, the Incredibles?

  • June 11, 2007, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Franklin T. Marmoset--

    by zb.brox

    Go read Watchmen, Dark Knight Returns, The Man Without Fear, pretty much any of Millers' Daredevil, pretty much any Daredevil since 1999, Batman: The Long Halloween, Marvels, Kingdom Come, Green Lantern: Mosaic, and Ex Machina. Then go fuck yourself. :)

  • June 11, 2007, 9:28 a.m. CST

    FF: The Rise of CGI Characters

    by LORDRANDO

    JAR JAR BINKS< Well, Im done hoping comic movies will capture any spirit of their silver age origins, especially this gang...whom i love...but who I will never bother to see on film, Big budget can never redeem horrible casting, so i prefer the mid 90s version knocked out b4 they lost the rights...at least those people can kind of act. Putting Jessica Alba in tight shit is great in Maxim magazine but kind of turns a complex character 1 dimensional..oh well , does Reed even have white hair at the temples in these fims, I admit ive never seen them...

  • June 11, 2007, 9:53 a.m. CST

    My crafty scheme: Foiled!

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Damn you, zb.brox and, to a lesser extent, just pillow talk!<p>zb.brox - I have read a few of those (many years ago), and I will say this: They are good examples of comic book writing and whatnot. Problem is, I believe that is a similar sentiment to 'that was one of the better CSI episodes' or 'tonight's Big Brother was not nearly as annoying as usual'. It's all relative, I suppose.<p>just pillow talk - Of course you're right, but at the same time you're wrong. These films cost obscene amounts of money to make, and the more a film costs the more the investors are going to dumb it down and fill it with adverts to ensure a decent return. It's wrong, but it's also the way it works. Given a more worthy property to work with, they might be more respectful. But it's a comic, and a silly one at that, so they whored it for all it was worth. You're right about The Incredibles, too. That was a good one.

  • June 11, 2007, 10 a.m. CST

    Roy is clearly covered in purple and squishy inside

    by Lang The Cat

    an Eggplant. I just saw Daywatch, and it shows me clearly what bothers me about FF and FF:RoTS. Daywatch had little or no CGI in it (except for the subtitles) most of the effects in it are camera or physical effects, but the pacing, characterization and writing make the film worth watching. I feel like I got my money's worth out of Daywatch (more so than Night Watch, which was decent). I believe I will not feel that way about RoTS, especially after seeing FF on cable (my last remaining brain cells kicked in and stopped me from spending my cash on seeing it in the theatre). I strongly doubt this will be much more than what it appears to be in the ads, and will likely be much less, despite Doug Jones (hell of a nice guy and good actor).

  • June 11, 2007, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Sounds like the shitty Galactus 'storm cloud' idea

    by Seph_J

    was true afterall. Fuck.

  • June 11, 2007, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Roy Stalin = Story in L.A.

    by mr dark

    Well I just read and Exclusive interview on SHH and in it Story admits to reading talkbacks on other sites but doesn't say A.I.C.N. is where he trolls I think jb brox and myself did find him here..Roy Rules!!

  • June 11, 2007, 10:12 a.m. CST

    perhaps next time Franklin...

    by just pillow talk

    POW!<p>BAM!<p>Yup, until people stop flocking to this type of movie, the dumbing it down will continue...<p>Do you watch Big Brother? Be honest...

  • June 11, 2007, 10:22 a.m. CST

    We just passed the 3000th

    by Lone_Gunman

    We just passed the 3000th post mark over on the Lost TB. Ave it!

  • June 11, 2007, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Franklin T. Marmoset--

    by zb.brox

    You can't compare an entire genre of work to one example of a television show. And it's especially ridiculous to draw conclusions about the attitudes or developmental progress of people who read them just because they hold a differing opinion of the quality of the material. I mean, if I said that everyone who watches action movies was a stunted man-child who need to escape their sad lives with mindless frivolity, that'd be pretty ridiculous, wouldn't it?

  • June 11, 2007, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Spacesheik

    by Ribbons

    You say that as if the X-Men WEREN'T portrayed as outcasts before Bryan Singer "ruined" them. That's the central conceit of the entire franchise.

  • June 11, 2007, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Well BL, "Brians Life"

    by nonsensical

    I think your film would be a little crammed... plus I think if you really want to go the route of Hal Jordan's fall from grace and then his redemption then you might want to keep the humans and use them to fill in. <p> If you opened with Hal coming into power and that power ring turning his life around by giving him a much larger sense of responsibility then that would keep us interested in his character. Then you bring in Sinestro or Legion, strike that reverse it. You bring in Legion for the first fight after Legion kills Abin Sur. When Jon Stewart, GL Sinestro and a Guardian show up Hal has proven himself a GL by apprehending Legion. Hal leaves for training "boot camp" and we see Sinestro abusing his power. Sinestro starts taking down the GL and Hal fights him taking him down, but day Sinestro really wanted to be taken down so he could come into the yellow power ring that the GL kept locked up. Sinestro escapes as Oa is attacked by revenge seeking Manhunters. The GL Corp is beaten and in order to win Hal merges with his power battery. GL Corp win and Hal and Jon head home. End movie one. <p> Movie 2 Hal comes home to find that Sinestro has obliterated his city, his family and his life on earth. The GL Corp unable to stop Sinestro and say Star Saphire now have to deal with a grief insensed Hal who has started stealing power rings and batteries. Jon tries to stop him but can't. In the end Hal ends up destroying the GL Councel on Oa and gathering a hundred power batteries and rings. As Paralax, he merges the rings into one and places the power batteries around the city. Jon Stewart tries again to get Hal to listen to him and Hal ignores him telling him that it's something he has to do and that the city will need a guardian. In the end of this one Hal ressurects the entire city people and all at the cost of his own life. When he disappears all that is left is the one combined ring that hit the ground at the feet of the young Kyle Rayner who was in the city when it was wiped off the face of the earth. Kyle picks up the ring and puts it on. Kyle is now the last GL. End movie 2. <p> Movie 3 should be all about the chaos left behind. Kyle being able to make new rings gives one to Jon Stewart who takes Kyle to Oa. Kyle and Jon rebuild the GL Corps just in time for some other threat. (I'm open here, but something about the Sinestro Corps seems right. Severely underpowered and outnumbered the GL Corp need to find a way to stop them once and for all. All this film is really is a huge battle while either Kyle or Jon try to get help. One of the Guardians of Oa send them on a journey which brings back Hal Jordan as a more powerful GL and Kyle as Ion. Hal and Kyle recharge the Core Battery and all the GL get a power boost. GL's who had their batteries stolen by Hal find their rings recharged and a new battery at their disposal. GL's awaken all across the cosmos and arrive just in time to save Oa and defeat the Sinestro Corps. Kyle stays to help rebuild Oa, Jon heads off to train new GL Corps members and Hal heads home a hero once again. End of trilogy. <p> That's what I want to see.

  • June 11, 2007, 11:30 a.m. CST

    I'd love to see...

    by Jakes Nel

    ... the older, cynical Superman from Kingdom Come on screen. Maybe ten or twenty years from now when the general public is much more familiar with the other, lesser-known DC characters.

  • June 11, 2007, 12:05 p.m. CST

    THE TYRANNY AND THE BULLSHIT HAS GONE ON TOO LONG

    by TheUltraHumanite

    /join #DeathToAICN its like, this is terrstrial radio, and that is a chat room designed for people who dont like the taste of Eli Roth

  • June 11, 2007, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Did someone mention Green Lantern?

    by Abin Sur

    THAT'S what I'M talkin' about! (said as Will Smith in MIB, natch)

  • June 11, 2007, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Why I Hate Fanboys Fanboys Fanboys Fanboys Fanboys

    by versatol

    Gay gay gay gay gay. I can't believe there is a whole breed of people who LOVE TO TALK ABOUT SHIT THEY HATE. You hope the movie will suck but you'll still see it 12 times. Every time something pops up on AICN, I love scrolling down to see how many "This will suck" comments and other comments of the sort plague the talkback like pimples on the asses of the geeks who write them. See the f*ckin movie or don't. If you think it will suck, don't see and proceed in masturbating to anime as normal. *And by the way, Silver Surfer will at least be better than Spider-man 3. Holla

  • June 11, 2007, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Why I hate versatol versatol versatol versatol

    by zb.brox

    ...because I hate anyone that says "holla".

  • June 11, 2007, 12:44 p.m. CST

    "This will suck" or "Gay Gay Gay Gay Gay" comment..

    by just pillow talk

    which is worse? Maybe you should have called fanboys faggots too. <p>Come here versatol, and let me give you a nice big hug!

  • June 11, 2007, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Great way of denial moaning

    by Darkcityuk

    ''I can't believe there is a whole breed of people who LOVE TO TALK ABOUT SHIT THEY HATE'' But then arent you just talking about shit you hate....

  • June 11, 2007, 12:52 p.m. CST

    admit it versatol

    by Darkcityuk

    your one of us. thats why your here in the first place because nobody with an actual life ever gets past the actual article page and reads the talkbacks.

  • June 11, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST

    total plizant

    by reckni

    Snoop would agree . . .

  • June 11, 2007, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Kyle Rayner is weak.

    by superninja

    They managed to turn him into a decent character, but from an origin standpoint, Kyle Rayner is a 90s fanboy creation lacking in imagination and even slightly embarassing. Hal Jordan is the first and the coolest, the test pilot with bravado. Jon Stewart is the most complex.

  • June 11, 2007, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Greek myths are for children, too, I suppose?

    by superninja

    Or do you just lack imagination and wonder?

  • June 11, 2007, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Greek myths are for children, too, I suppose?

    by superninja

    Or do you just lack imagination and wonder?

  • June 11, 2007, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Ooh... funny thing.

    by nonsensical

    I liked Rayner. Mostly the idea that he was an artist and totally unprepared for the job at hand. Yeah his origin was weak but I like him as Ion. <p> Providing we skip the crap and thrust him into a role where he brings back Jordan while becoming Ion in the process the film version would be more than tolerable. Essentially I'd like to see it be a set Jordan-centric films about his rise, fall, and redemption. <p> Besides, Every time I see Aaraon Eckart I can't help but think he would be the perfect Hal Jordan and Ricky Ulman would make a great Kyle. Not so sure on who to get for Jon Stewart or Kilowog. Though honestly Ron Pearlman would be a good choice for the latter, I think.

  • June 11, 2007, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Hey zb brox

    by mr dark

    Did you check out the interview with Tim Story on Superhero Hype? He says he reads other sites talkbacks so I think we may be right about Roy's secret identity. How sad if true..

  • June 11, 2007, 2:27 p.m. CST

    OK, OK, OK... I admit it

    by versatol

    I'm a fanboy too. However, I should have specified "stereotypical AICN fanboys" are the type I hate... you know, the 80% of you who can't wait to talk about stu[id sh!t like how flames on Optimus Prime will ruin the whole movie or the surfer is "too silver." I must admit I am one you... but more like a bastard child that is half AICN fanboy (grew up on comics and sci-fi) and half cool. I have to say though, as much as I hate stereotypical AICN fanboys, you guys amuse me as I dabble away on my computer at work. So I guess I don't hate you. And, yes... I do need a hug. (FF4:ROTS will rock)

  • June 11, 2007, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Brians Life

    by darthbinks1220

    No harm, no foul. It's in the past. Let's look toward the future! :)

  • June 11, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST

    mr dark--

    by zb.brox

    I actually kinda feel bad for him, if it is.

  • June 11, 2007, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Ahh see now you just admitted you are a jerk, versatol

    by Darkcityuk

    A jerk or a studio lackie ''ff4:rots will rock'' or a bastard, as you pointed out. And patently not ''cool'' as nobody who actually says they are cool ever is.

  • June 11, 2007, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Rayner is a loser. Part of the 90s fad of making

    by superninja

    losers superheroes because you could identify them (i.e. they didn't make you feel bad because they were better than you). Heh heh. The character is fine, I just think movies are not made for Kyle Rayners, t.v. shows are.

  • June 11, 2007, 3:14 p.m. CST

    mr_sinister7381

    by rdsxfan8

    i have a friend whose the manager at that movie theater in marlboro. I might be able to pull some strings and get that display. how much do you think its worth? I havent seen it yet but if tis cool I might consider keeping it for myself.

  • June 11, 2007, 3:18 p.m. CST

    I'd like Eckhart to be Captain America or

    by superninja

    Green Arrow. He is another guy to add to my list. Love him.

  • June 11, 2007, 3:19 p.m. CST

    James Marsden should be Hal Hordan. He needs

    by superninja

    a good starring role and he's a great actor who is capable of playing a heroic lead that is likeable.

  • June 11, 2007, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Display news!!!

    by mr dark

    a few theater managers i know say that they of late have been required to send back displays (such as the Grindhouse theater display)to the studio..Guess they see some sort of second profit in it to sell to fanboys and girls

  • June 11, 2007, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Oh Yeah , zb brox

    by mr dark

    You are correct Sir, It is sad. If Story cares after the fact to cruise the talkbacks for the hate or love..He just should try to make the best film he can and let the chips fall where they may.. You can't fix it after the fact.. Or can you ?...Do you hear me George Lucas!!

  • June 11, 2007, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Oh... I like that Superninja...

    by nonsensical

    He's very good at what he does. <p> Now give me a good choice for Jon Stewart.

  • June 11, 2007, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Ribbons

    by Spacesheik

    I know mate, I know the mutants are outcasts but I'm saying thats a field Singer has already covered twice. Why did he have to turn a postive, straight, all-American hero into a confused, bitter stalker who didn't quite 'fit in'? The only part of the film where Superman literally soared and the actor playing him nailed it, was during the 747 acion sequence. The rest of the film he was stalking Lois and going through a Earth-identity crisis. Any Superman film which consists of a hospital sequence as the climax of a film is asking for trouble. Especially following a sequence where Lois' boyfriend saves Superman and Lois. The last 40% of the film was all dark gray Kryptonite islands and tedium - if that is the look of digital cinemam I want no part of it.

  • June 11, 2007, 4 p.m. CST

    Just come back from a screening

    by Otto-parts

    I'd guess that Mr Stalin may well have seen the film though when he says that Julian McMahon is excellent I do wonder. I'm afraid the first reviewer is much closer to the truth . I haven't picked up an FF comic for 30 years but it still smelt like a travesty to me. Got to write it up now and am wondering if I can get away with dusting off my Ghost Rider review and just changing a few names, it's that kind of half hearted, bodge job. Of course they don't all have to be Batman Begins or Spider-man 2 and for about 15 minutes I thought this might be a fun movie but the jokes wears thin and the action sequences are nothing special and you quickly tire of it. Still kids will like it.

  • June 11, 2007, 4:25 p.m. CST

    some talkabckers hate children

    by emeraldboy

    its the truth. admit. Thats why some really hate comic book movies.

  • June 11, 2007, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Well, at least...

    by Rei-Ginsei

    ...I still have "Iron Man" to look forward to...

  • June 11, 2007, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Otto-parts

    by mr dark

    Sorry to hear that.. I sort of had hope for this but from what I am hearing I may have to wait a while for a proper ff movie..I will still see this at a matinee showing though..,oh yeah Roy Rules

  • June 11, 2007, 4:29 p.m. CST

    emeraldboy are you saying that

    by pjdon

    because this movie is aimed at kids it should be crap?<p>It's very easy for a studio to make a film that will please kids for a couple of hours. But if care and attention is put into a film then it will be remembered for ever.<p>No-one can deny that The Incredibles is aimed at a younger audience than FF but is a far more intelligents film. It has real characterization and emotion not just pretty faces and jokes.

  • June 11, 2007, 4:31 p.m. CST

    by the way emeraldboy where do you live?

    by pjdon

    I'm actually from the UK but am over working in Dundalk Co Louth at this very moment.

  • June 11, 2007, 4:48 p.m. CST

    emeraldboy, that was hilarious. Keep on keepin' on!

    by superninja

    <>

  • June 11, 2007, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Does anyone else feel a bit let down

    by pjdon

    by this summer? I don't remember a summer with as many big films to look forward to.<p>I was convinced Spidey 3 was going to be brilliant, there was no reason why it shouldn't have been but it was a bit of a cramped mess (although there is still genius within the mess).<p>I assumed Shrek 3 would be just as fun as 1 + 2 but the change of director has completely ruined it.<p>I thought Pirates 3 would have sorted out 2's problems by simply being the end peice of the trilogy and therefore having a strong fun narative, but again I was wrong.<p>It seems all my hopes are on Die Hard 4.0 and Transformers and if you asked me before summmer I would have put these two down as most likely to fail.<p>Oh well at least we have the Simpsons to look forward to. They can't fuck that up. Can they?

  • June 11, 2007, 4:52 p.m. CST

    A good Jon Stewart.

    by superninja

    Well what about Terrence Howard? Cole Hauser should be Guy Gardner.

  • June 11, 2007, 4:58 p.m. CST

    pjdon I live

    by emeraldboy

    on the east coast of dublin. In a place called loughlinstown, its near a whole bunch of places like dun laoghaire, bray. nothing beats Killiney bay on a sunny day. That view is just stunning. I have relations in the UK. too. pjdon. Here's the thing. Murdoch runs Fox as a family company. The producers of Fight club kept him in the dark over that one and with good reason had he found out what they were doing. Fight club would never have made to the big screen. With Murdoch there is in all serious a family thing running through News corp. to the point where he places his own children in positions of power within the company. The reason he bought into Fantastic four is was the whole family angle. The dark bits were kept out. They couldnt have a villain hell bent on world domination. coz he is running fox. So they turned doom into a pantomine villain. they tried that once before. Bond. Elliot Carver. Murdoch dumped the franchise. Burns is based on Murdoch. But that is satrical. Carver wasnt.

  • June 11, 2007, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Eckhart

    by huggerorange

    Aaron Eckhart was cool in Thursday..so was Thomas Jane. Paula Porizkova never fails to give me a hard one in that movie.

  • June 11, 2007, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Terrence Howard...

    by nonsensical

    I don't know. I know he's War Machine in the Iron Man film and he works as that, but I just don't see him as Jon Stewart. <p> There has got to be someone else. <p> As for Guy... if he was in it... what about Travis Schuldt? I think he has the look and can be very funny at times and we all know Guy would be there as the jackoff who ends up getting hit by a moon and shouts, "I'm okay before he passes out."

  • June 11, 2007, 5:14 p.m. CST

    I have an Aunt who lives in Bray

    by pjdon

    But my point is that darkness isn't needed to have substance.<p>My favorite kids film is Hayao Miyazaki's My Neighbour Totoro, I can not think of a more innocent, conflict free film. But it still has real emotion and depth.<p>I always laugh at the fact that Fight Club got made, if any suit at any studio saw that they would dissmiss it straight away, it undercuts their whole bellief system.<p>PUFF OF SMOKE<p>Rupert Murdoch: 'how dare you talk about me on a Talk Back!'

  • June 11, 2007, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Oh my god

    by pjdon

    Murdoch is so powerfull he appeared in my post!

  • June 11, 2007, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Guy is not funny is he an @$$hole that only thinks

    by superninja

    he's funny. What about Taye Diggs?

  • June 11, 2007, 5:33 p.m. CST

    For Jon Stewart

    by Punch Man

    How about the guy from Heroes?

  • June 11, 2007, 5:33 p.m. CST

    and for Guy

    by Punch Man

    I always liked Mark Walhberg

  • June 11, 2007, 5:54 p.m. CST

    That could be a fun part for Wahlberg but I doubt

    by superninja

    he would take a supporting part like that in a superhero movie. I mean, unless George Clooney was Hal Jordan and then he could just stock the cast of Ocean's as the GL Corps. Have Soderbergh direct.

  • June 11, 2007, 5:56 p.m. CST

    I always liked Mark Walhberg

    by pjdon

    but then he slept with my sister and now we don't talk.

  • June 11, 2007, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Hmmm. Okay.

    by superninja

    I think Matt Damon would actually be funny as Guy.

  • June 11, 2007, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Really, I always thought Guy was funny...

    by nonsensical

    Especially when he was with JLI and used to fuck with Martian Manhunter. Him, Booster Gold and Blue Beetle. <p> Can you say Oreos?

  • June 11, 2007, 6:05 p.m. CST

    superninja, grat idea

    by pjdon

    have Soderberg do JLA or any other ensamble superhero peice in the stlye of O11. Imagine how the stars would flock.<p>I was thinking the other day how they should re-do the movies Marvel logo intro by getting everone who has played all the character over the last few years and having them all fly down or whatever and stand together in one big group. Imagine, Toby Maguire to R Downey Jr all in one massive 10 second short.

  • June 11, 2007, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Except that I can't watch Matt Damon anymore...

    by nonsensical

    Thanks to Team America I just can't help but say "Matt Damon" everytime I see him.

  • June 11, 2007, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Matt Damon does have the

    by pjdon

    Guy Cardner face. And I'd love to see him loosen up and do something sleezy and cheesy.

  • June 11, 2007, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Roy sounds more convincing

    by mrjoker

    ...but maybe that's just wishful thinking. Whoever is wrong is going to have some serious splaining to do-

  • June 11, 2007, 6:19 p.m. CST

    I would just put all of the GLs into one movie with

    by superninja

    the assumption that they recruit Earthlings. None of this one lantern business. Stewart should already be active because his character is strongest as a hard@$$. I would actually make Jordan the new guy and be a test pilot for experimental military vehicles. Rayner can be the dude who goes nuts (like another failed artist, ha ha). Of course I am still going with my war movie in outer space concept.

  • June 11, 2007, 6:23 p.m. CST

    It could be a space-heist movie

    by pjdon

    where all the GL are recruited by an unknown force into robbing the worlds first space-station casino.<p>Exactly the same cast as Oceans 11.<p>The money in the casino would have to be refered to as 'space-dollars' though.

  • June 11, 2007, 6:33 p.m. CST

    I saw Ocean's over the weekend. It's only bearable

    by superninja

    because of Soderbergh's directing and the writing was funny. Those guys are no longer cool, just my opinion.

  • June 11, 2007, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Maybe I should clarify. Clooney and Pitt are

    by superninja

    no longer cool. The rest of the cast actually do some acting most of the time.

  • June 11, 2007, 6:36 p.m. CST

    They should do the next one

    by pjdon

    with a new cast, people who are as famous now as the original cast where when O11 came out.<p>I think the heist movies concept when done well never gets dull

  • June 11, 2007, 6:37 p.m. CST

    back in a while...

    by nonsensical

    that's all

  • June 11, 2007, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Yeah, like Paris Hilton?

    by superninja

    The heist part of the movie was very fun, not sure how realistic it was but I really don't care. Also agree the CGI with the building was great.

  • June 11, 2007, 6:54 p.m. CST

    just saw a clip of this movie on aots

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    yes that shitty show. it was just a corny NON FUNNY clip of johnny meeting raye. i really hope they dont ruin johhny (or his and the bens arguing), seeing as he was the best thing (HAHAHA GET IT? BEN? THING? HILARIOUS!) in the first movie.

  • June 11, 2007, 6:56 p.m. CST

    All a heist movie needs is something good to

    by pjdon

    steal (or a good reason to steal something not so good) and then a brilliant set-up to the heist followed by a little twist when you thought they had failed.<p>O12 completley messed this up by doing the heists in flashbacks, having multiple heists etc.<p>It's an easy type of movie to get right.<p>Ok suggestions for Oceans The Next Generation?

  • June 11, 2007, 6:57 p.m. CST

    ALSO

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    beau garrett said that surfer wasnt all cg that they had doug jones in a sliver suit which was very expenisve. kinda reminds me of colossus from x3. remember how shitty he looked? the cg colossus in action looked fuckin horrible.

  • June 11, 2007, 7:04 p.m. CST

    mr_sinister7381 he doesn't really prove

    by pjdon

    much. I never had a problem with Jar Jar, the acting, the effects etc. I had a problem with the lack of adventure or any characters to relate to.<p>Regardless of if you are nostalgic for the originals it does not take away that they are completely different kinds of movies.<p>Their story is based around a lot of characters spanning 20 odd yrs.<p>THe original where about a few characters going on 1 big adventure.<p>I just wanted them to feel like space-westerns like the original trilogy.<p>Whatever you argue you cannot say they did, they felt like a sci-fi version of the Godfather.

  • June 11, 2007, 7:04 p.m. CST

    MEMFLIX

    by lady arclight

    Damn. Check out Memflix's website. He got 'suspended' from work because of his review. he was a projectionist!

  • June 11, 2007, 7:28 p.m. CST

    WOW!! I guess Roy Stalin was Story in L.A.

    by mr dark

    Shit Memflix I feel bad for you.. I mean free speach and all be damned..Big Brother is watching .. Oh and also bad directors.. Visit memflixbeyond.com for the whole story...I did

  • June 11, 2007, 8:05 p.m. CST

    When he goes for his next

    by pjdon

    job and they say 'can you tell us why you left your last job?' he can say 'Tim Story' or 'Fucking Silver Surfer'

  • June 11, 2007, 8:08 p.m. CST

    pjdon

    by darthbinks1220

    Jar Jar was deplorable, an abomination. He fucked up an otherwise passable film.

  • June 11, 2007, 8:11 p.m. CST

    I'm with you Bringingsexyback

    by mr dark

    Lets get some torches and assemble the villagers together and storm the gates at Fox..This aggression by the studio won't stand.. I'm to pissed for words..dammit

  • June 11, 2007, 8:14 p.m. CST

    darthbinks1220 thats like saying

    by pjdon

    the nipples on batman in batman and robin spoiled what was otherwize an ok film.<p>People don't stop and objectively think why a film doesn't work, they just blame it on something superficial.

  • June 11, 2007, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Your Welcome Bringingsexyback.. You Know

    by mr dark

    Just for shits and grins I was going to give Fox my matinee money and judge the stink for myself.. But now I think I'll just wait till I'm back in Thailand and get this off the street or scrape it off the bottom of my shoe. Wherever it turns up first... oh yeah free memflix!!

  • June 11, 2007, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Free Memflix

    by mimsyfancypants

    Fox is dead to me. Let me know when the villagers will be making their move. I have my own torch.

  • June 11, 2007, 8:52 p.m. CST

    You deserved to get sacked...

    by voxmortis

    Free speach?! Bollox... you were working as a test screening projectionist - as part of that role you agree not spout shit about the films you screen on the internet, whether you like them or not. Don't bite the hand that feeds you!

  • June 11, 2007, 9:05 p.m. CST

    voxmortis

    by memflix

    I was never told that I couldn't express my opinion about a movie I watched. I never signed anything. Until today, the subject was never brought up. The FFRSS was one of close to a dozen film reviews I wrote that were published. Some of which were more scathing than this one. They found me because of my moniker Memflix-memphis, TN.

  • June 11, 2007, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Jon Stewart--

    by zb.brox

    I like Omar Epps. Jon's supposed to be younger than Hal, and he has to be capable of playing both intelligent and mature and really pissed off. Epps can definitely do that.

  • June 11, 2007, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Whats your take memflix

    by Phategod1

    Do you Stalin is Tim Story. it could be anagram.

  • June 11, 2007, 9:11 p.m. CST

    epps is a midget

    by Phategod1

    I think the guy from Serenity would be good.

  • June 11, 2007, 9:13 p.m. CST

    I agree with BSB

    by Phategod1

    If nenver signed anything then you should sue. and I'd sue both the theatre and Fox.

  • June 11, 2007, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Memflix, let me ask you a few questions!

    by ryankat25

    One, on the four and five star rating, what would you give Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer? Just out of curiosity. Second:Which is worse,Batman & Robin or FFROTSS? And third, do you plan to sue or take action?

  • June 11, 2007, 9:17 p.m. CST

    You lost a job on the grounds

    by pjdon

    that you revealed a big corporate secret.....<p>...Fantastic Four was shit.<p>If it wasn't for you no-one would have ever found out.<p>Your like Fox Mulder for films Memflix

  • June 11, 2007, 9:23 p.m. CST

    If they said you could have your job back

    by pjdon

    if you agreed to say the film was good, would you?

  • June 11, 2007, 9:33 p.m. CST

    He should sue and make it so all Tim Story films

    by pjdon

    from now on would have to have a health warning: 'This Film was Directed by Tim Story, may cause anger and frustration in anyone over the age of 5'

  • June 11, 2007, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Memflix I hope your still there

    by mr dark

    I"m sure it means nothing to you now that you have lost your job but I think after reading your website I declare you the truthspeaker..Yiu should file a grievence or at least consult a lawyer for wrongful termination ..If you were full time take the unemployment and pursue your writing..Till the sting goes away at least.. I have bookmarked your site for further updates..Keep on keepin on.

  • June 11, 2007, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Bringing sexy back

    by mr dark

    By the way Bringingsexyback I like the handle.. I tried bringing sexy back but she wouldn't fit in the suitcase

  • June 11, 2007, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Big-Mac "secret"-sauce = Thousand-Island-Dressing...

    by WONKABAR

    Come and get me Mickey-D's! Btw here's a "real" review http://tinyurl.com/24hgzp

  • June 11, 2007, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Bringing sexy back

    by mr dark

    Hey next time I'll let the air out of her...Heh heh heh

  • June 11, 2007, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Thanks

    by memflix

    I'm still around. If they said I could have my job back, would I take it? I will sorely miss writing up the films ahead of the time that reviewers are 'allowed' to express opinions, but being asked back is not an option.

  • June 11, 2007, 10:17 p.m. CST

    I feel bad that memflix had to watch so many bad films

    by Bronx Cheer

    I was an in-house projectionist years ago and man oh man you never realize how many bad films are out there until you have to spool those things up.

  • June 11, 2007, 10:22 p.m. CST

    You know what bugs me

    by mr dark

    If you read the review that wonkabar linked to it is no more scathing of a review in fact it is very similar in tone..Did the studios come after that reviewer? not yet? maybe? whos next? Harry? Mori? Quint? Thats what bugs me...Harry whats your stand on this? Do you still read the talkbacks ? Tim Story and the studio suits do...that is obvious now.

  • June 11, 2007, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Green Lantern movie?

    by Colonel Activity

    Director: Darren Aronofsky GL: George Clooney Done and done.

  • June 11, 2007, 10:34 p.m. CST

    Boycotting the fox

    by mr dark

    You know the boycotting would be easy for me except for 1 item and thats 24.. but its over for the year and the way they performed this season was somewhat weak.. so maybe not so tuff to boycott..

  • June 11, 2007, 10:51 p.m. CST

    I'd boycott FOX but we all know

    by pjdon

    Rupert Murdoch could have us all killed in an instant.

  • June 11, 2007, 11:02 p.m. CST

    I just got off the phone with Rupert Murdoch

    by Bronx Cheer

    and he told me I'm a dead man. (This AICN Catchphrase is brought to you by the good folks at the NY Post, where the truth is simply not always convenient...and by Fox, the first TV network to derive its programming directly from a landfill...Fox, It's What's Rotting!)

  • June 11, 2007, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Not to mention according to Mori this is not

    by superninja

    the only screening, I'm sure the crappy reviews will be rolling in. <p> As to poor memflix, it's likely his employer has a policy for their employees, and it's got mem's sig on it, and he violated their policy. Something he signed as terms of his employment. Don't start telling him to sue. I was fired for taking wine coolers into a theater screening back in the day.

  • June 11, 2007, 11:19 p.m. CST

    memflix, spin this into a whole guerilla reviewer

    by superninja

    thing and brand yourself and then get bought by Spielberg for a $1 meeeellion dollars.

  • June 11, 2007, 11:26 p.m. CST

    The whole "spy" aspect of this site always bugged me

    by Bronx Cheer

    In any other industry, it's called corporate espionage. Just because this spying goes on over movies doesn't make it okay. I don't write this in reaction to memflix's dismissal. I just needed to spout one more bit of preachifying before going to bed. Nighty nite.

  • June 11, 2007, 11:41 p.m. CST

    mr sinister7381

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    actually i like episode 3 more than any other star wars movie. i love episode II, the only problem i have is haydens acting and the dialogue in that one. episode I just drags in spots to me.

  • June 11, 2007, 11:50 p.m. CST

    Someone set Memflix up the bomb

    by Philselway22

    Good luck sir.

  • June 11, 2007, 11:53 p.m. CST

    superninja

    by Colonel Activity

    Is in love with me. I rule.

  • June 12, 2007, midnight CST

    Col, you are Aaron Eckhart?

    by superninja

    <>

  • June 12, 2007, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Imagine having Aaron Eckhart's jaw line

    by pjdon

    I'd point it everywhere and wink at everyone.<p>And then sleep with lots of girls whie telling them how much I rule.<p>Seriously the begining of Thankyou for Smoking is amazing, one minute your thinking this guy is about to get torn apart and the next he has everyone on his side.

  • June 12, 2007, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Memflix

    by mr dark

    3 more new stories and your saga is off the front page ....for now. When the next Fantastic four review goes up your name will burn in the night like a beacon...No. You will not be forgotten..You and your plight will live on. So it is written, So shall it be done..Long Live Memflix....

  • June 12, 2007, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Eckhart is adorable.

    by superninja

    <>

  • June 12, 2007, 12:35 a.m. CST

    superninja awwww

    by pjdon

  • June 12, 2007, 1:12 a.m. CST

    he'd make a good solid or liquid snake

    by Phategod1

    Eckhard would.

  • June 12, 2007, 2:27 a.m. CST

    For zb.brox and jpt (if they're still reading)

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    You're right, zb.brox. I was trying to find an anology other than 'coming first in the special olympics', partly because it's a bit harsh and partly because I wanted something more original. Anyway, I stand by my point. Comics have their moments - some great characters and iconic imagery - but they are not examples of great storytelling. The good ones are good only because everything else is such garbage. Everyone feels tall when they're standing next to a little person. I was a bit hard on the fans, though, but it gets my back up when I read the comments of your average comic book fans in these talkbacks. Many of them are deeply delusional people. No disrespect to you, of course, on account of your name. You're just this guy, you know?<p>just pillow talk - I consider myself a recovering Big Brother addict, although I do relapse from time to time. And then I feel dirty and used... I'm not sure where you are, though. Do you watch the UK BB?

  • June 12, 2007, 3:02 a.m. CST

    Franklin T Marmoset

    by zelusfin

    everything else is complete garbage? ok, id just like to start off by saying i am not taking this personally. would just like to make a point. So ok, youve read some of the stuff zb.brox just mentioned but jeez thats just the tip of the iceberg. there are a serious number of modern story arcs that came out the past decade that really rock. the walking dead (though not a super hero book) and invincible totally rock the boat. waids run on the fantastic four was awesome and the extremis tony stark (though he's a complete tool now)was good as well. and what medium combines great "iconic imagery," "great characters" and awesome literary prose? Everybody rails on hollywood these days and tv as well, and its obvious why. books are awesome but the imagery is all in your mind, all literary. grandpa's night time stories to the kids? i dont think so. comics have completely given us a medium that can mix all the elements in its art and give us something truly magical, a place where anything and everything can happen and be seen. and a place where things can be a little less contrived than hollywood (not saying all of it is, or that all of comics isn't). and unlike tv and the big screen, a place that leaves a bit for the imagination to explore. I dont see why you think other comics are just garbage though. You just put it out there as the reason why others are exellent. Exellent stories/comics are that why not because you have to compare it to something else. They just are based on their merit alone. story, originality, plot, art. Its all there. Just because you've read a few sucky issues doesnt mean the rest of the comics world has to suffer the same criticism. But i respect your thoughts, have friends of my own that dont think much of comics and never will. At least you didnt say its all bad.

  • June 12, 2007, 3:15 a.m. CST

    Hey, zelusfin

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Thanks for the post. You obviously like comics, which is your right. For me, though, they are (for the most part) just pulp. Throwaway stories primarily intended for children. It's to be expected - the companies who make them churn those damn things out at a phenomenal rate. Comic fans tend to throw up names like Watchmen and Kingdom Come as examples of why comics are not just for kids, but they forget two things: 1) These are still stories about men in daffy costumes fighting each other, and 2) These comics are the exception, not the norm. Yes, they are among the best of their medium, but they mean very little to anyone outside of their relatively small audiences.<p>To be honest, I don't really care all that much if people read comics. Like I said, that's their right. Knock ourselves out. What bothers me is the attitude of the fans who post here. Clearly, they love the source material that they feel is being bastardised for the big screen, but they're just going to have to grow up and accept that the world at large has very little respect for these properties and that the resulting films are not all going to be as deep and serious as they would like. To bring it back on topic (Fantastic Four), it seems utterly asinine to me that people are complaining that this deeply silly comic book was turned into a deeply silly film. What else did they expect?

  • June 12, 2007, 3:20 a.m. CST

    and what is great story telling?

    by zelusfin

    that i would be so curious to know the answer to. each medium has the potential to be great storytellers. and for me comics have delivered time and again. oh, add sandman and justice into the mix as well. will eisner's the spirit does not disappoint and the ultimates will rock forever.

  • June 12, 2007, 3:25 a.m. CST

    i agree

    by zelusfin

    the fantastic four are not exactly the most deeply thought out characters in the galaxy. but still, good stories have been made using them. but its true, the majority of 6 billion people will watch the film expecting it to be something silly especially after the first one. although i should say, it is still possible to make a seriously fantastic movie using these very same characters. i wont wail when it doesnt happen, but it can.

  • June 12, 2007, 4:13 a.m. CST

    hmm, guess this talk back isnt as followed

    by zelusfin

    a shame really. i wonder, what makes a tb reach that lost one's status? how does one get that big? and whats the point? i dont think people are gonna stop watching lost... for this movie though, the bigger the talkback the more people are going to watch it just out of curiousity.. like what's the fuss about? im just blabbering, nobody'll read this anymore anyway. or will they... and cue the next tb.

  • June 12, 2007, 4:32 a.m. CST

    It's not quite dead, zelusfin

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Those Lost talkbacks are some kind of weird anomaly that can't be explained. Every time they put a Lost talkback on the site, you can practically see tumbleweeds in the other TBs - everyone has deserted them to talk about Lost. It gets very lonely.<p>As to great storytelling, there's a million examples. Some of them are even films. You can go from greek myths to Hamlet to Dickens to The Godfather to The Sopranos. Comics, maybe there's a few. I did like The Dark Knight Returns. Those closed off graphic novel type things seem to work a bit better than ongoing comics.

  • June 12, 2007, 5:43 a.m. CST

    LOOK THE FIRST REAL REVIEW

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    http://www.scifimoviepage.com/fantasticfour2silversurfer.html normally , i dont care what critics say. but i needed some info.

  • June 12, 2007, 5:43 a.m. CST

    LOOK THE FIRST REAL REVIEW

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    http://www.scifimoviepage.com/fantasticfour2silversurfer.html normally , i dont care what critics say. but i needed some info.

  • June 12, 2007, 5:55 a.m. CST

    Thanks, supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I read it, and it seemed pretty symptomatic of the comic nerd attitude toward these films. A bunch of prattle about how the enormous guy with the purple helmet hasn't been handled the way they wanted, then some perfunctory (see that, movie reviewer, I turned your own word against you! ;P) commentary on the actual merits of film.<p>Also, what the fuck, scifimoviepage.com? Jessica Alba looks like a streetwalker? Fuck you. If the streetwalkers 'round my way looked like Jessica Alba, I would be flat out broke, because I would be paying for their services every damn day.

  • June 12, 2007, 6:13 a.m. CST

    Also...

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Those humourless assholes gave the sixties Batman film zero stars. Zero stars! Even though Batman fights a shark in that one. A shark! That ought to be enough to garner at least two stars. Granted, Batman isn't as good a shark fighter as LL Cool J, but that's no reason to dismiss the film. LL Cool J is hard as hell, after all. How can Batman compete with that?

  • June 12, 2007, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Franklin T Marmoset

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    yea i can care less what critics think, but i really needed a review from a f4 fans point of view. and jessica alba looks that way in f42 because of the contacts and wig. either way jessica alba = hotter than the fuckin sun

  • June 12, 2007, 6:51 a.m. CST

    batman fighting a shark

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    spiderman fought sandzilla in spiderman 3. i still liked it though.

  • June 12, 2007, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Franklin T Marmoset

    by just pillow talk

    You have taken the first step in admitting your problem. I'm in the U.S., so I don't watch the UK BB, or the U.S. version for that matter. I despise the reality garbage that's on TV. You don't understand the fuss over comic book movies, I've never understood the fuss over reality TV. To each their own. I wish you luck trying to get over BB. Have you tried that patch?

  • June 12, 2007, 8:02 a.m. CST

    My screen is turning green...

    by Kid Z

    ... from all the chlorophyll oozing around just behind the glass! This guys so obviously a plant, I bet his real name is Jason Woodrue.

  • June 12, 2007, 8:10 a.m. CST

    I hate all the hate for Alba around here...

    by Kid Z

    ... Sure she can't act her way out of a wet paper bag, armed with with a glove with x-acto knife fingers. But she's an attractive woman who gets roles precisely for that reason... ain't fair, but that's Hollywood. Now, she's totally wrong for the role of Sue Storm, and the contacts and dye job make her look ridiculous, but what?... she was going to turn down the wads of cash? Of course she sucks in the FF movies, but it's minimal compared to the George W. level of incompetence generated by Tim Sorry and his mentor Tom Rothman.

  • June 12, 2007, 8:33 a.m. CST

    I despise reality garbage, too

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    That's what's so annoying about it. But I read a story in the paper about some 'controversial' incident (most recently, a girl was kicked out for using what we are calling 'the N word') and I get sucked back in to see what's happening.<p>"Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in!"<p>Man, that's one of the best quotes from The Godfather series and it's from the worst film.<p>Anyway, I am a prize chump, apparently. Maybe that explains my love of the Fantastic Four film. I am, sincerely, really very excited to see this new one. I'll have to try that patch - some kind of combined cure that will rid me of my need for Big Brother, stupid films and smoking - that would be good.

  • June 12, 2007, 8:44 a.m. CST

    memflix got fired

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    http://www.memflixbeyond.com/rants-raves/fantastic-fiasco-part-2/ in case you guys havent heard yet

  • June 12, 2007, 8:48 a.m. CST

    jessica albas nipples!

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    you guys obiviously havent seen this pic http://www.funbolt.com/gallery/files/6/jessica-alba-nipple-slip.jpg fuckin amazing

  • June 12, 2007, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Tim Story...

    by micturatingbenjamin

    Gives this same review over at Super Hero Hype....I mean all the 'facts' this dude throws out there are in the interview. I might see it. I didn't hate FF 1...and Silver Surfer looks pretty badass.

  • June 12, 2007, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Franklin T. Marmoset--

    by zb.brox

    I completely disagree that the only reason the things I listed look good is because everything else sucks. Watchmen has so many things going for it that I don't know where to begin talking about it. The others I listed may not be that good, but I would put them up against any list of TV shows you care to name without hesitation.

  • June 12, 2007, 9:30 a.m. CST

    We have reached an impasse, zb.brox

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Never mind. Different strokes and all that. It was nice talking to you, though.<p>Are you excited about Zack Snyder's upcoming Watchmen film? I think that one could actually be pretty good. And not daft good like FF - proper good.

  • June 12, 2007, 9:31 a.m. CST

    prize chumps

    by just pillow talk

    Now Franklin, you cannot give grief to those that read comics if you are "sincerely, really very excited to see this new one". I regret to inform you that the patch does not work against watching crappy movies. Sadly, there is no cure...

  • June 12, 2007, 9:33 a.m. CST

    supercowbell - you sir, are a saint!

    by just pillow talk

    God bless ya for that pic!

  • June 12, 2007, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Honestly, I can't wait

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    It's ridiculous. I'M ridiculous. I am (believe it or not) a mature, sensible, reasonably intelligent man, and this new Fantastic Four adventure is the highlight of the summer for me. Just a few more days to go! It has a naked silver man who surfs through space in it. How can it not be amazing! If they can somehow work in a scene where this naked silver man fights a shark, it will be the perfect movie.

  • June 12, 2007, 9:42 a.m. CST

    who knows...

    by just pillow talk

    perhaps Johnny takes the power of a shark as well in this one....<p>I'm looking forward to the Bourne Ultimatum myself.

  • June 12, 2007, 9:48 a.m. CST

    One more article and Memflix gets bumped!!

    by mr dark

    One more new story and the saga of Memfilx gets bumped to the back pages... I don't think so..SAVE MEMFILX !!! Read his story , Share his pain, Oh the humanity.. LONG LIVE MEMFLIX!!!

  • June 12, 2007, 9:50 a.m. CST

    You people sure have romantic notions

    by Vergil

    about what the term "Free Speech" means. Romantic and ridiculous.

  • June 12, 2007, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Cool as...

    by Kamen Rider

    Penguin balls. Who's telling the truth... we gotta see the movie to know...

  • June 12, 2007, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Vergil

    by Vergil

    I call it freedom of employment. You don't like what your employer does, then you work somewhere else.

  • June 12, 2007, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Vergil

    by Vergil

    ...and you are correct. It's not romantic. It's naive.

  • June 12, 2007, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Franklin T. Marmoset--

    by zb.brox

    I'm both excited and nervous for Watchmen. Snyder has certainly proven he can stay true to the content of the original, and that he's a great visual and action director. I mean, you could hardly ask for more than that with 300. However, Watchmen really demands a strong sense for its thematic elements--Watchmen more than the vast majority of other comics has a rich, layered body of philosophical points of view that are really the driving force of the action--and they're, if not entirely subtle, at least not so blatant as, say, Dark Knight Returns. (BTW, Snyder would completely rock DKR). I'm sure Snyder will make a great looking movie with a lot of familiar moments and dialog, but I don't know if he can create the same sense of the chaos of humanity's different values and convictions inevitably leading to destructive confrontation when taken to their logical conclusions. That's what'll make or break it for me.<br>Having said that, he's already made some choices I definitely approve of--keeping the Black Freighter scenes and keeping the setting of the 1980s--and hopefully that's a good sign.

  • June 12, 2007, 10 a.m. CST

    "What's there to be excited about?"

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Well... he's a man, he's naked, he appears to have no garbage, and he is on a flying surfboard. Also, someone told me his name is Norrin Radd. Seriously!<p>I can understand how fans of the comic might be annoyed at the too sliveryness and whatnot, but this film is a dream come true for all fans of absurdity. All it needs now is a shark...

  • June 12, 2007, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Lets Put the Coffin Lid on Marvel Movies

    by flossygomez

    and demand Brett Ratner direct Watchmen. I will give good money to the exec who greenlit Brett to get his mediocre hands on Marvel so I can send him a flaming bag of dogshit. Ruff said!

  • June 12, 2007, 10:48 a.m. CST

    On The Subject of Memflix...

    by mr dark

    This is really about your rights and your thoughts and freedom to express them.. I am a longtime reader of this site..When I first found it I was so refreshed reading its unbiased reviews , its early reports, Spoilers, leaked info.. It was young and unafraid and had teeth..Well now not so much..and I can understand why.. When you dance with the Corporate devils you will dance to their tune and pretty soon the song you once sang slowly becomes their music..Just as fame changes people so does the sleeping with the enemy...The studios seem to want to bully all with threats for reporting or leaking pictures..Look don't get me wrong Harry I love your site and what you keep doing but things have changed as far as content and the way it is handed down..I know dealing with the studios and their minions is a double edged sword but no one should have to worry about expressing their opinion on this site in fear of studio revenge ..That was not what A.I.C.N. was ever about..

  • June 12, 2007, 11 a.m. CST

    BSB

    by Vergil

    He may or may not have recourse under federal employment laws: the devil is, of course, in the details. But this recourse is due to possible unjustified termination, and NOT under "Freedom of Speech" litigation.

  • June 12, 2007, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Empire mag says The Silver Surfer is very lame

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    "One thing that sadly does not work is the Silver Surfer. It should be impossible to make Norrin Radd anything other than cool, but Tim Story has managed it with aplomb. Anything interesting that the Surfer has to do has already been revealed in the trailer. His further contribution to the film consists of intermittently drifting onto screen in expensive slo-mo, making big holes in the ground, saying something nonsensical and depressingly earnest to Sue Storm (Jessica Alba, to paraphrase Pauline Kael, running the gamut of emotions from A to…well, let’s try and nail A first, shall we?) and then titting off again. He doesn’t soar; he’s a big old drag. As for Galactus: what you’ve heard about him being a giant cloud is only semi-true. There’s a brief suggestion of the big pointy hat, so he may simply be inside the swirling mass of planet-devouring stratus, embarrassed by his daft costume and ungainly size. Who can tell? The return of Victor Von Doom is pleasingly pantomimic. If you thought Julian McMahon couldn’t get any more camp than he was in the first film, boy, are you in for a surprise. The guy should be wearing rhinestones and twirling a handlebar moustache. " Damn!!

  • June 12, 2007, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Jessica Alba is not fun anymore.

    by superninja

    She is a pretty girl, but she takes herself too seriously and comes across as miserable all the time now. Also this business about not wanting to be a sexy symbol, stop showing your junk in every men's mag. Sure, she is more covered up, but she is selling sex, so just be honest with yourself, honey. Can't have it both ways.

  • June 12, 2007, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Franklin - have you ever read the actual comic books?

    by superninja

    Not any of the new stuff, because it's total crap, but the old school original stuff. Because Hollywood has yet to make a true comic book film. They have yet to really capitalise on the advances in technology to tell this kind of story. Instead they are applying their same 'ol crappy Hollywood formula and just dressing the characters up as superheroes and taking advantage of name recognition without actually honoring the property.

  • June 12, 2007, 1:08 p.m. CST

    You have certain rights to free speech, but they

    by superninja

    are not unlimited. In your personal life, yes, when you are a representative of another company, not necessarily so. If he infringed upon the company policy, it is what it is, he will perhaps have some kind of recourse but acting like this is some free speech case is incorrect.

  • June 12, 2007, 1:11 p.m. CST

    There was a mini interview/profile

    by emeraldboy

    about alba in the observer. Info in the article was very scarce. Alba is conservative and doesnt give much away. She was moving house. There was no press allowed inside the house. There was a aura around her, she's really cranky.

  • June 12, 2007, 1:16 p.m. CST

    I read an article with her in InStyle recently and

    by superninja

    got the same vibe. I have no problem with the conservative part and wanting privacy, except it's hypocritical when she does sexual spreads in mags and just covers up a little bit more than the other girls. Big deal she won't do Playboy, we've pretty much seen it already.

  • June 12, 2007, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Alba used to come across as lively and fun.

    by superninja

    She had curves, she smiled a lot, she was likeable despite not being a great actress. Now she's skinny, sour, and has the big vein popping out and the exaggerated forehead like Jolie, Richie, Bosworth, so many other actresses starving themselves to death. The big forehead and prominent veins are a sign of an eating disorder.

  • June 12, 2007, 1:32 p.m. CST

    "The guy should be wearing rhinestones...

    by WONKABAR

    and twirling a handlebar moustache." Sweet.

  • June 12, 2007, 2:22 p.m. CST

    superninja

    by mr dark

    If your employer let you go after reading something you posted at home, afterwork, not on company time..I think you would be singing a different song..

  • June 12, 2007, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Fox have become notorious

    by emeraldboy

    in recent years for the sheer lengths, that they will go to make sure no one blabs. It may have started with the village. Though I cant be sure. It is not just memflix. it is all media. I remember Jay leno joking about it and saying how stupid it was that they forced him and his team to sign these non disclosure documents and he is not even a reviewer. I heard that the secrecy stuff even applies to Cinemas owners and projectionists.

  • June 12, 2007, 3:05 p.m. CST

    I can no longer stand these plebrities

    by emeraldboy

    Who moan about press intrusion and then end up on the cover of magazines. Then go on Oprah or parkie complain that the press going after them all the time. Most recent example was george MIcheal. who implied that press were trying to run him out of town and that he may leave the uk altogether. That got staged gasps from the audience.

  • June 12, 2007, 3:11 p.m. CST

    BSB

    by Vergil

    The First Amendment does not protect you from being fired. It allows you to say what you want without being put in jail, but it does not say that there will be no consequences at all. In most states and on most jobs, I can fire you for having blue eyes. I can fire you for being fat or not liking classical music. And I can fire you for saying something I don't want to hear. I may not get many people willing to work for me, but there is no Federal law protecting you. There are other Federal laws relating to disabilities or union issues, but fewer than you might think. Some states have specific laws protecting employees, but very few having anything to do with "free speech".

  • June 12, 2007, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Illegal reasons for firing:

    by Vergil

    Discrimination:Race, gender, national origin, etc... OSHA complaints Retaliation / whistleblowing Refusal to take lie detector [Legal] Alien status Refusing to commit illegal act

  • June 12, 2007, 3:37 p.m. CST

    State Laws : What is the law? Law no more..

    by mr dark

    I know Memflix is in the house of pain right now..But he hopefully won't take this lying down..In Ca. I know we have somewhat strict wrongful termination laws which employers try to trump with a little contract called an At Will Contract that came into frequent use as worker rights progressed.. It states any party may terminate employment at will for no specific reason...blah ,blah, blah.. I've been told by legal friend that the at will contract is a shameless device that can and is beaten all the time..Just cause you sign something doesn't make it enforcable by law.. Sooo.. Memflix if your listening my friend ...Explore your options . Some legal whiz kid may take your case on for the press..If I were a lawyer with some free time I sure would..Just to put a fire under the suits..Just again I want to point out that we are slowly moving into an area where people are going to be very afraid to say as they really think and feel except anonymously And even that is a gamble. I bet that Memflix is now a reluctant member of the club and never thought he would be. Long Live Memflix !!

  • June 12, 2007, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Well I certaily would call this employer retaliation

    by mr dark

    Whistleblowing yeah , He blew the whisle on this upcoming film.. I myself had hopes for this project and I like to be exposed to critical reviews of the product..Memflix did his part and the Studio over reacted and probably put preasure on his employer who in turn terminated him. Well I for one cry foul.. You know its one thing when an embargo is put on full fledged critics not to write up a review.. But if Memflix didn't sign any disclosure docs he's in the clear for a wrongful termination suit provided for by his last employer. I say take it Memflix...

  • June 12, 2007, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Go Fox!

    by Vergil

    As an employer selling widgets, would you want one of your employees taking out a full page ad in the local paper saying "you know, the guys who make the widgets we sell really don't know what they are doing..."? You can't sue the guy (probably) or have him arrested, but do you expect the government to MAKE you keep him as an employee? The At Will Contract is not a shameless device in itself (though some will USE it shamelessly). The At Will Contract is a basic part of the market economy. Without it companies would be less willing to hire, and would be forced to keep ineffective employees (Soviet Union anyone?).

  • June 12, 2007, 4:02 p.m. CST

    mr dark

    by Vergil

    Illegal retaliation refers to someone being fired for asserting their rights as otherwise noted. Not retaliation in general. If I am your boss and you beat me at golf, then I can very well fire you for it.

  • June 12, 2007, 4:08 p.m. CST

    mr dark, if it pertained to my job and in some

    by superninja

    way compromised my company, you bet they could fire me.

  • June 12, 2007, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Vergil is right, listen to the V.

    by superninja

    They probably DO want the Man to give Metflix his job back. Metflix will probably sue and Fox will have to hire 20 lawyers to create a policy on reviewing screenings which allows people to sue for damages and gives them $1M dollars.

  • June 12, 2007, 4:14 p.m. CST

    non-disclosure

    by memflix

    I did not sign anything. I was never told not to write or express opinions. In fact all of the reviews I have written for this site were under the same circumstances and not one word was said.

  • June 12, 2007, 4:37 p.m. CST

    memflix

    by Vergil

    I do sympathize with you, and I'm not saying it's fair. I am only saying what I know to be the law. Did you ever think to ask anyone what the policy was, or what the repercussions might be BEFORE you posted any reviews?

  • June 12, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST

    You didn't have to sign any documents when they

    by superninja

    hired you to work for them?

  • June 12, 2007, 4:49 p.m. CST

    The Memflix situation is unique..

    by mr dark

    Well I agree withyou all regarding company confidentiality. But as Memflix keeps saying and nobody's listening..He signed no such device..It's his employers duty to inform him of any such rules and it needs to be signed by said employee.. If memflix din't want to sign he could be let go.. But without proper docs Memflix will triumph..

  • June 12, 2007, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Wrong mr. d

    by Vergil

    It is NOT his employees duty to inform him of any such rules. As a matter of fact, the employee can make them up as he goes along. Or he can tell him it's okay, and then fire him anyway. Why don't you people bother to look it up? It's not that difficult...

  • June 12, 2007, 5 p.m. CST

    Vergil funny you mention that

    by mr dark

    I had a boss fire me .. and damned if it wasn't over a stupid mulligan...Total ass hole..

  • June 12, 2007, 5:01 p.m. CST

    brobdingnag

    by Vergil

    You are correct excempt on one point: Americans are not, relatively speaking, lazy. They work more hours than just about everyone else. I guess you can add greedy to the list...

  • June 12, 2007, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Tennesse is a right to work state...

    by Alonzo Mosely

    Had Memflix been in Hollywood he may have had some protection, he was in Memphis, big difference.<p> I feel very bad for Memflix, I enjoyed his review, and I hate to think he lost his job because of it. However, if you are going to post reviews of films you got to see pre-release because of your job, and you have a website with your real name on it, then this is the sort of thing that will happen. There is a reason people just send in a review to AICN with a fake name, they are covering their behinds from this kind of thing. Memflix was also trying to angle towards getting some sort of future paid critics job, which is why he did his website, with his name right on the bottom. Doesn't need Columbo after that.<p> You probably have an argument to get unemployment, but that is probably all I can see you getting. But hey, I hope some lawyer with big ambitions sees this thread, when you have big corporations there is always a chance you can squeeze them for money.<p> Whatever happens, good luck...

  • June 12, 2007, 5:08 p.m. CST

    This movie is about

    by Colonel Activity

    fly-fishing. And Brad Pitt's gambling problems. It rules. Memflix is a fucking liar.

  • June 12, 2007, 5:11 p.m. CST

    I thought Yack has some law experience

    by Phategod2

    Maybe he can shead some light on this if he's so inclined.

  • June 12, 2007, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Roy is Uwe Boll

    by Gargolito

    or Paul WS Anderson (who the fuck has two middle initials anyway???)

  • June 12, 2007, 5:12 p.m. CST

    That is really the issue. Of course you could

    by superninja

    sue them just to see what you can get, but I wouldn't do that. You can't sue Fox and they're the ones with the real money because Fox is not your employer. Just find out what resource you have. Anyway, I am sorry you lost your job over a review of what looks to be a bad film.

  • June 12, 2007, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Right to work state = unemployment

    by mr dark

    B.S.B. is correct about right to work states .. I lived in one also. Nevada ..except in Vegas you make it a rule not to go after your employer..Lots of holes out in the desert..

  • June 12, 2007, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Vergil thats employer not employee

    by mr dark

    And it does differ from state to state..and as for you brobdingnag your anti-american rant is so stale..If you are trolling for patriots go fuck yourself chucklehead...

  • June 12, 2007, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Here is what it is. There is a cloud of whirling

    by superninja

    crap with debris and the outline of what maybe looks to be like a giant head with a funky helmet inside of the could. Just enough to make sure they safely stay on the super-boring and "things we've seen before" side of things.

  • June 12, 2007, 5:34 p.m. CST

    The cloud

    by Colonel Activity

    is shown in the newer advertisments. The cloud looks "ominous". People are "worried". Tim Story "fucks" cats.

  • June 12, 2007, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Hey!

    by Colonel Activity

    What about this "Wanted" movie? I haven't bought a comic since '93, so I'd like to know if the source is any good. Well is it, fuckfaces?

  • June 12, 2007, 5:45 p.m. CST

    I think it's a load of crap by Millar.

    by superninja

    But then I think Millar is loaded with said crap. It's passe shock-value trash.

  • June 12, 2007, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Roy Stalin you're a liar, and you will spend the rest

    by superninja

    of eternity in talkbacks! Mr. Memflix, feel free to go ashore ... the very next time we make port!

  • June 12, 2007, 5:59 p.m. CST

    BSB, do you work for, or have you ever worked for

    by superninja

    THE MAN?

  • June 12, 2007, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Hide the cats!

    by superninja

    Knowles on deck.

  • June 12, 2007, 6:10 p.m. CST

    BSB

    by Vergil

    Why should he not listen to me? I never said he shouldn't talk to an attorny. What I said was that this was not a Free Speech (capitol letters) ie. 1st Amendment issue. I never said that he had no recourse under state law. I just said he probably doesn't. And mr. d, you are right, it is employer. But I thought you were speaking ethically. By law, you are correct, it might differ state to state. But as a matter of Federal Law, there is no duty to inform. And certainly not for any 1st Amendment reason.

  • June 12, 2007, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Stick a plunger in his ass?

    by Colonel Activity

    Have you been hanging out with the cops who did that to that Haitian immigrant about 8 years ago? Do you listen to Sean Hannity? I heard he's gay...well, he's a giant douche bag fucktard at the least.

  • June 12, 2007, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Well, Hannity

    by Colonel Activity

    fucks cats. He's as lame as Tim Story. Also, he fucks cats.

  • June 12, 2007, 7:01 p.m. CST

    agreed

    by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell

    very curious about the cloud thing. probably true because in april, the hadent even decided if galactus was gonna talk yet.

  • June 12, 2007, 7:09 p.m. CST

    The Truth

    by steverogers5

    Hiya, 1st time I've ever posted here, despite frequenting this place for years...Anyway I work in a cinema in the uk, and we got our copy today, and I'm just back from watching it with our projectionist. I'm afraid the big G is a cloud folks, and the closest you see to the galactus look is that shadow vaguely resembling the helmet, crossing saturn or jupiter whichever planet it is...Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings :( Now the film itself...isn't terrible...If you were a parrent taking their kids to see it, and didn't have any love of the comic book, you'd probably enjoy it. It's much the same as the first film, lots of comedy, special effects and morals for all the family...In other words you guys will all probably hate it! ;) The silver surfer is wickedly cool, but there's not enough of him, he doesn't even appear until almost half an hour into it...(at the wedding) Doom-more of the same from the first film... The cloud is immense...a big galactic storm about 3-4 times bigger than Earth..Oh and if you don't belive I've seen it. Well, at the end of the film, about 30 seconds after the credits begin, you see the surfer floating in space and then recovering and summoning his board...Bet that's not in the novelisation!

  • June 12, 2007, 7:14 p.m. CST

    More..

    by steverogers5

    And to answer some questions the cloud is like some sort of ginat funnel with tendrils that in the opening scene almost look like the fingers of some unseen giant hand...but of course that's misleading...It's not purple, mostly a dark grey, although with more colours inside it when the surfer goes into it at the end...And most disappointingly of all...Galactus doesn't even talk! In fact the only time I believe he's even mentioned by name is when the surfer reveals his past, and he says that galactus is the name his people call the planet devourer...When ever else he's refered to in the film, it's as 'the destroyer'

  • June 12, 2007, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Finally...

    by steverogers5

    I've got to say the worst thing about the film is.... JESSICA ALBA! She really was not a very good choice for Susan Storm and sadly that's even more evident here...The part seems to be written more to suit her, than the character... Everyone else is way more likeable, even <Gasp!> Reed! (Though he is a bit of a wimp in the way susan constantly shoves him around...) It's like halle berry in x3, the film seems unbalanced because it's being altered to rotate around her 'star presence' and everybody else suffers accordingly...Sad... But the look of the film is great, speacial effects are top notch...kids and families will lap it up...But marvel comic book fans should probably check their expectations at the door!

  • June 12, 2007, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Stalin is Story!

    by Phategod2

    I dont know if this has been said already but Roy Stalin could be a anagram for Tim Story. And if you sir are in fact Story, or any individual associated with this movie and you are indeed lying then I will never watch any of your (Tim Story) future movies. Although for the record"Friday" was funny as hell. But you have damaged your integrity as a professional and a human being by lying about your own movie, it does nothing but show how poor your ability is and how much faith you lack in your own ability.

  • June 12, 2007, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Memflix was right, jb brox was right..

    by mr dark

    Oh The Truth..steverodgers5 yes right.. Roy Stalin=Story in L.A probably the truth too. That ominus cloud,even if you can't see it you will be able to smell it. Thats for sure...Well it all comes down to the truth. It cost one man his job.. He tried to give a heads up to fans.. He got trolled by Roy Story..I mean Stalin..and it blows up in his face..Has Roy been back? I havent seen him...Memflix, Memflix, Memflix.. Did this turd cost you a job?...That is ironic..indeed

  • June 12, 2007, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Kurzinski Valentine

    by steverogers5

    Thanks for the clarification, I haven't been looking at the tv spots..But the scene I referred to is the opening scene in the movie...Where you're pulling back from a planet being destroyed and at the ends of the screen there's tendrils that look kinda like fingers...Too much for it to be a coincidence...but still throughout the film that and the saturn scene are I think the closest you ever see to it looking like the outline of a figure... And when it approaches earth, the effect is kinda like unicorn in the cartoon transformers movie, (BEFORE he tranforms into a figure!)

  • June 12, 2007, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Hey Harry How about Hiring Memflix

    by Phategod2

    I think he'd make a great a addition to the staff.

  • June 12, 2007, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Oh, and that poor guy

    by steverogers5

    Oh, and that poor guy Memflix..I don't necessarily agree with his condemnation of the complete film, it does have some fun moments...BUT he was completely right about all the facts he reported...Thus whoever it was that called him a liar, well they're talking about themselves! Anyway take care all, and if you're a fantastic four fan, I'd say go see it. As most of the four and the surfer, are pretty cool in the film, but downrate your expectations for galactus, or you'll be terribly disappointed!

  • June 12, 2007, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Memflix

    by mr dark

    He calls them as he sees them..

  • June 12, 2007, 8:22 p.m. CST

    what did harry say

    by Phategod2

    Memflix I'm interested if you have e-mailed Harry with the news you where released. What was his response.

  • June 12, 2007, 8:24 p.m. CST

    And what the hell is sup with the new GIF

    by Phategod2

    Ohh black snake moan good movie, twisted GIF. I think you have Samuel L chained to radiater trying to get away from the sight of Harry with BIGGER man-tits.

  • June 12, 2007, 8:37 p.m. CST

    nevermind new topic cleared it up

    by Phategod2

  • June 12, 2007, 8:43 p.m. CST

    VOTE NOW:

    by pjdon

    HARRY'S TITS V's CHRISTINA RICCI'S TITS.<p>It's size v's a lack of ginger hair on the nipples.

  • June 12, 2007, 8:46 p.m. CST

    I'm all For Ricci all the way

    by Phategod2

    post and pre-op preferably pre-Op.

  • June 12, 2007, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Planty McPlant

    by dtpena

    worse than Harry's HD-DVD defense

  • June 12, 2007, 9:19 p.m. CST

    It seems to me that if you

    by dndeep

    It seems to me that if you are a projectionist for advanced screeners that there is an implied confidentiality associated with the job

  • June 12, 2007, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Strike that...

    by nonsensical

    For Guy Gardner I would like Alan Tyduk.

  • June 13, 2007, 2:33 a.m. CST

    Surely, no one else is reading this

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Superninja asked, quite politely, whether I had read the comics. If you mean FF comics, I don't think so. When I was a kid, I read a lot of Batman and Spider-Man, but I don't remember reading FF.<p>Honestly, I think that gives me an advantage when watching these film versions, though. I don't care if they've messed up Doom, I don't care that Johnny Storm's hair is the wrong colour, and I certainly don't care that Jessica Alba is not right for the role. I think the expectations of fans (who want to see a more faithful, less silly adaptation) have spoiled their ability to enjoy these films. Fair enough.<p>P.S. Last? Am I last?

  • June 13, 2007, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Moriartys rant and the new reviews are gone

    by mr dark

    Again how sad

  • June 14, 2007, 11:56 a.m. CST

    I saw it and MEMFLEX is right

    by Spacesheik

    I saw it today (the film opens in my part of the world 2 days before the US) and I can tell you its a lightweight, 90 minute kiddie based flick with no Galactus helmet in it (and I was looking real careful for it), SPOILER ALERT !!!! ..... There was a London Eye sequence that was supposed to be the sequel's action beat of the first movie's Golden Gate set piece but it was inferior to that because all the F4 did was hold the ferris wheel together so it didnt collapse (no threat, no villains, minimal action). The Silver Surfer was cool (and Fishburne's voice was ace) but he seemed trapped in the wrong film, I feel his presence has been trivialized and will negate him having his own series although the f/x for the SS was well done and the character had a gravitas, which was welcome in this genre. Dr Doom is back and he wants to steal the surfboard and he actually spends the climax of the film gliding over China throwing bolts at the F4 (who split up in their little jets) and the Great Wall of China. The human torch gets an amalgamation of the F4 powers, The Thing has practically nothing to do in the film and the film takes a good 15 minutes to get to the opening weding of the film (which we saw at the start of the trailer). Andre Braugher plays the Generic Evil American General (a la Stryker in X-2) and all generals do something stupid in comic book movies so his little army is obliterated in a 5 second action scene. All in all, the kids loved it and there was applause at the closing credits. It's a family picture, expect no more. And it's very sad that the John Ottman score was so forgettable, I don't even remember if there was a central F4 theme. By the way, I have to admit I laughed hard at the Stan Lee cameo (his best in any Marvel movie so far). But let me make something clear: it is *not* an improvement over the first film.

  • June 14, 2007, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Memflix all over the news...

    by mr dark

    Oh well ... I guess some folks still belive in free speech...Just search under Memflix its all out there...

  • June 14, 2007, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Roy Stalin

    by Gatsby Seeker

    Not saying it's true but...hmmmm. ROY STALIN STORY IN L.A. ?????

  • June 14, 2007, 4 p.m. CST

    ...and...

    by Gatsby Seeker

    He's also a character in Better Off Dead. And he also posted on 'Twitch'website in March about some movie called 'Kala' Could be a lot of Roy Stalins....

  • June 14, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    I dunno seems like more than a coincidence..

    by mr dark

    Roy Stalin = Story in L.A. I know this I just saw video coverage on NERD NEWS with pictures of AICN and this STORY has been all over the national press today...Isn't it funny that this STORY is bigger right no than tim story... FUCK you fox LONG LIVE MEMFLIX....

  • June 14, 2007, 7:21 p.m. CST

    God Bless Memflix

    by Joey_Redballs

    I salute you. nuff said.

  • June 14, 2007, 7:30 p.m. CST

    I hope Memflix sues the FUK out of the theater!

    by Joey_Redballs

    They wrongfully terminated him for exercising his first amendment. He didn't sign a non-disclosure! Memflix, get a lawyer dude! Sue the theater. Sue Fox. Get paid. Amen.

  • June 15, 2007, 11:34 a.m. CST

    implied confidentiality

    by vmj19

    "It seems to me that if you are a projectionist for advanced screeners that there is an implied confidentiality associated with the job" Nothing is implied in the corporate world, everything is overkilled with contracts and legal mumbo jumbo, if Memflix didn't sign his name, SSN, and soul over to the studios on a piece of fancy white paper saying his lips and typing fingers are shutdown then all bets are off...