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Guillermo Del Toro speaks out on the cast of HELLBOY 2! There might be some unexpected faces here...
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with some news on the cast of HELLBOY 2.
We already know Ron Perlman is back, as well as Selma Blair. Now Guillermo has spoken out to deltorofilms.com and commented on who else is returning and some new faces that have been cast. There is at least one returning cast member that took me by surprise... I wouldn't go so far as to say there are spoilers below, but you will know a neat little surprise if you read it.
John Hurt is back for a cameo.
Myers is not back (see Rupie in KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN in the London stage!!).
Universal has NOT authorized a brief Kroenen cameo/ epilogue- yet.
Johann will be played by John Alexander (body) and Tomas Kretschmann (voice).
Dougie will play 4 characters.
Brian Steele will play 4 characters.
Anna Walton is the actress playing Princess Nuala.
Luke Goss plays Prince Nuada. Silverlance.
Roy Dotrice plays King Balor
"Dougie" of course is Doug Jones, the man in Abe Sapien's skin in the first flick. John Hurt back, eh? Sweet. Love me my John Hurt and he was damn good in the first movie.
The Royalty characters come from an Irish-Celtic myth called Tuatha De Danann, but deltorofilms.com says their function and characteristics are changed radically for the film.
Can't wait to see Big Red back kicking some ass. What about you?
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Very much.
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We got the character intros out of the way, let's jump right into a new case! And let's ditch the friggin' powerless human agent.
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Will he feature in a flashback, or return as a "spiritual mentor" a la Kenobi...?
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we need a trilogy!!!!!!
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Del Toro could've brought to Spiderman 3???? Ron Perlman rocks, he was one of the best things about Hellboy.
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I really hope Del Toro writes him in... Then again he rocks a little too hard for just a cameo spot...
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I hope we get some flashbacks of kid Hellboy, maybe thats how Broom might figure in, maybe.
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Are we hoping for a trilogy here?
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Ron Perlman's a senior citizen now. Does he get to be a boy forever? In which case, should it be called Peter Pan V: Final Countdown or something?
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A trilogy would be cool...And I agree, no more powerless agents, unless they still want more red shirt Trek type guys...
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What site is this anyway?
Kidding... Finally some fucking cool news on here. I kind of liked Meyers, he gave an audience entry point, and had a nice arc over the course of the first movie. Now of course, all his intro stuff is just wasted stock. Oh well... -
But man Del Toro is so overated. I walked out of Pan's Labyrinth. I hated it that bad. Del Toro is not a good writer. He just knows how to create interesting FX.
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John Rambo, Transformers 2-The Quickening, Hellboy 2, Craig Bond No. 2.Looking forward to it!
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PAN'S LABYRINTH was proof of that. Shame he's wasting his time.
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I want to see a live-action scene where Broom introduces Lil' Hellboy to "pamcakes" so bad. It's gotta be, what, a two or three minute scene tops, so please make it happen, del Toro!
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Since that's the only way they could really capture the feel of the comics on film. The first one was a giant shrug.
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two fat kids chest bumping!
virtually undefeatable! -
there were plot holes aplenty, but I liked the characters.
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Jim Fitzpatrick did this back in the 1970s:
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I hear that Hellboy gets his junk torn off at the end of Hellboy 2 so there is your Hostel tie-in.
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That's all the character piece they'd need. That bit would say it all. Then ACTION!
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Can't wait for that one! Although I hate that Meyers seem to disappear without an explaination. (I don't really like this character, but he was such an important part of part 1, that they should at least give him a cameo.)
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I need an explanation of how a grown demon could realistically exist in this world and fight supernatural crime. I'd also love to see 30 minutes of nothing but scenes showing how Hellboy creates his holy water bullets and captures sunlight into those other bullets. Del Toro never explained that realistically... what a hack!
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The first Hellboy pretty well nailed the look and feel of everything already. Now we have del Toro with all the cachet from Pan's Labyrinth, and a storyline that takes that myth vs. reality concept to a new level. Not to mention a bunch of incredibly cool characters. I'm really looking forward to it!
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Anybody knows that?
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Come on!
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I don't have much faith in Del Toro's Hellboy 2. I saw what he done with Blade 2, completey sucked compared to #1.
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Not trying to piss anyone off, but the first one was pretty bad. I never read the comics though, so is it possible that that's why all you guys love it and I thought it was so bad? Just curious...
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Didnt really like it, thought it was way too corny, even for a comic book movie.
One scene that really pissed me off was when I think Hellboy was following that Blair bitch across the rooftops, trying to find out if she liked him? Fucking stupid, nearly turned it off.....Must do better Del Torro -
Hit the bricks, pal! (sincerely Alec Balwin)
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You can't be a Del Toro fan if you didn't like Hellboy. I rank it among the best Comic adaptations of all time:
1. Batman (w/ Keaton-Nicholson)
2. Spiderman 2
3. Hellboy
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Seriosuly it was one of the better Comic Book movies.
Was it perfect? No, but they got enough of the core elements right that it really didnt matter.
Now that the origin is out of the way, this movie should kick all kinds of ass.
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That will be a noticable difference if one of the main characters has a different voice. A little disappointing.
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Yeah...this is comin from a comic fan, but so what? I'm a fairly harsh critic of my comic characters gettin weak/halfass treatments in movies these days. In the case of Hellboy I had also never read that particular book...so I basically had no idea what to expect goin in to see #1.
I thought it rocked. I personally can't wait for #2, esp w/all the disappointing efforts with the most recent batch of comic based movies. -
First off, it didn't feel like a Hellboy movie, although they did make Hellboy look about as good as you possibly could in a live action film. The movie didn't have any of the gothic feel of the comic, it felt like they plunked Hellboy in the X-Men universe. That was my main complaint. I would like to see Lobster Johnson on film at some point. Also, Blade 2 was vastly suprerior to the first one IMO. I have faith Del Toro will make at least a good movie out of this, but I still think stop motion is the only way to do Hellboy justice.
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I should read more carefully - the cast list didn't say specifically that Abe's voice is recast. Although Hyde Pierce is also not confirmed.
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Fucking stupid scene that I referred to. The one with Hellboy following that skinny bitch he is in love with?
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I am sorry, despite how much this site wants to push Hellboy, the movie was simply not very good. The characterization of the "cool" demon was forced. And the final battle was so anti-climatic that it was a huge disappointment. Blade II was a far better movie by comparision.
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They totally need to include Roger, I think he would fit in as a bit character very nicely.
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That fucking hellboy movie was complete shit. Those stupid fucking things that kept multiplying were fucking awful. I haven't read the comic but doesn't the red fucker have any decent enemies?!
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I popped in and out of the first movie w/ the different settings. A lot of them just didn't feel "Hellboy" at all but there were occasional ones that were awesome. The characters were all money though. I'm thinking the 2nd one will be what I expected out of the 1st one.
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Like Sam Raimi, Guillermo is best kept away from CGI (although Pan's Labyrinth had far better CGI than Hellboy).
The only good thing about HB was staring at the beautiful Agent Myers. And now he's gone, I don't think I'll bother. -
Del Toro wanted Bruce Campbell as Lobster Johnson, but Mignola wouldn't have it. "Boooooo," I say! "Boo!"
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I will not be watching Hellboy 2: Devil Rape or whatever the hell the name is. The first one was overblown, overdesigned, overwritten crap. Most of Mignola's minimalist designs for the movie(which were brilliant) were REJECTED by del Toro in favor of hideously overdesigned crap, check out the Art of Hellboy movie book that was released along with the film. Ron Perlman has a great HB voice, but his interpretation of the character(he's an adolescent, he says in interviews) is ALL WRONG. "Aw crap" is not HB's catch phrase, he's only said it a couple of times in the comics. Selma Blair is AWFUL as Liz, just completely annoying. Abe- again, overdesigned and badly used. Don't get me started on the pantywaist FBI agent, you remember, the one who had to REMIND HB that he's a hero at the end of the flick? In the comics, HB is a hero because he CHOOSES to be. And he never needed a little agent man to remind him.
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If only del Toro could get away from writing - at which he's awful - this could really be a fantastic story. He's a hell of a director and a visual storyteller, but on the page he's a total mess. And that was the biggest problem with the script - it was a great, fun concept that was so terribly executed that it didn't make any sense. Maybe he'll get his wits about him and bring someone else in. Not by coincidence, that was the problem with the first movie as well.
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Hellboy forever! One of the best modern comics and a great way to explore mythology with a new twist! The Hellboy video game for 360 is coming out soon too so it is a great year to be a fan.
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I haven't read the HELLBOY comics, but those two words remind me of words I've heard before....what the fuck is it???!!
WILLOW!!!!! that's it
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I don't know if this has been posted yet and I know this doesn't belong in this talkback but Fantastic Four 2 got a PG rating.
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I have no doubt that Hellboy 2, will be a fantabulous film. If any of you have doubt, then you're gay, and you frak cats....
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Just read on the Hollywoodreporter.com that he's finally making another movie. Hoo and ray! And I also couldn't be more than happy that Hellboy 2 is finally on track. Happy news day today.
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"Savage" Steve has been trolling at Nickeloeon lately directing Ned's Declassified, a kind of live action cartoon, that I can see fit his sensibility.
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the important question is, how does this relate to eli roth? ... is eli roth co-directing this? did eli roth write this? will eli roth have a cameo, and if so will harry have one as well?
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...along with a new director and creative team. Except for Mignola, of course. And they could actually use some of his designs, that would be nice.
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monster condo! eli roth could direct and guilllermo could exec.produce. yeah, that could work. a hellboy sequel doesn't sound that compelling because the first one they tried to make more as a comedy than a dark comic book adapation. although there were funny moments and some well-done action movies. and could someone tell me how "the monster squad" is a cult thing?
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You know there's a lot of good news in between the Eli Roth jokes. It all involves other people making movies other than him.
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I'm debating if I should buy it.
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He'd be cool.
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... will be played by Doug Jones, as in the first film, and Doug will also provide the voice of the character, as he has done in the Hellboy Animated movies and the Hellboy video game. David Hyde Pierce will not be returning.
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Maybe we can get a theatrical addition to the Beauty and the Beast series one of these days.
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Man, I need to leave work. Anyway, I would appreciate anyone's opinion that has bought the Director's Cut and think's it worth while.
Or thinks it's a pile of poop.
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i just watched it the other day. another underrated and overlooked animated gem. it's also funny to hear his voice in the simpsons episode he did with frasier. but his voice was kind of tacked on for abe sapien. i would've liked to have heard ben stiller as abe sapien instead. that would've sounded good. or not.
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Not to watch this crap! Oh I said crap, get it ;)
I'm a Del Toro fan and hellboy comic fan (even liked blade 2) but man was this film so disappointing.
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I'm a fan of Perlman so I hope the second Hellboy is a considerable step up from the first one - I didn't find the first film to be all that great, unfortunately.
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Has like two extra scenes of Meyer's and Liz playing footsie. Not worth buying if you already own the regular cut.
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Maybe you've heard of it?? Ah, just go back to wanking off on your Venom and Punisher books. HELLBOY 1 was a GREAT adaptation...if you think it doesn't work, yet you haven't read the COMIC....well, I guess your opinion means about as much as JACK and SHIT combined!
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...to fix Selma's hairline. That is probably a cruel thing to say about an otherwise reasonably attractive person, but it seriously looks like her roots are trying to conquer her forehead, and something about it freaks me out. If I was around her, she'd probably catch me sneaking up on her with a Norelco shaver daily, trying to catch her unaware and fix it the old fasioned way. ***** Oh, and maybe Guillermo could do us all and added favor and make this installment GOOD. That would be nice after the snoozefest that was the first film. Actually, they got Hellboy himself right. Everything else was wrong, especially the villain, Rasputin. He was no more Rasputin-like than the bad guy in BLADE 3 was Dracula-like. For some reason, Del Toro and Goyer like to see bald, oiled, barechested 'bears' as villains in their supernatural action movies. They look like they should be offering young, naive men Ecstasy tabs instead of trying to take over the world. But, to each his own.
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Now if they will just fix Abe Sapien. He's supposed to be like Murtaugh to Hellboy's Riggs, not some psychic ninny. It's almost as bad as the neutering they gave Dr. Doom, but not quite. Ron Perlman, of course, rules as Hellboy and Blair is cute as Liz. Hopefully the script and effects will be an improvement over the last (although they done Hellboy good).
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the first movie. They got the character right, the story was just lame. It needed to be more atmospheric (like the source material) and less like Blade.
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the first hellboy fucking kicked ass for me no complaints here...it certainly didnt hurt that Selma Blair is so fucking hot. I suppose it was a little like blade 2 visual-style wise.. but that movie was even better to me. Both are my two favorite comic book movies so far..cant wait for Hellboy 2.
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the first hellboy fucking kicked ass for me no complaints here...it certainly didnt hurt that Selma Blair is so fucking hot. I suppose it was a little like blade 2 visual-style wise.. but that movie was even better to me. Both are my two favorite comic book movies so far..cant wait for Hellboy 2.
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Now just fix Abe, please! I love Abe in the comics. Get rid of David Hyde Pierce and make him Hellboy's partner!
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I think the universe benefits from having a "straight" man just to offset everything else. I don't know the comics at all so I don't know if any of the new characters will fill that void; certainly doesn't sound like anyone on this list.
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How cool is it that Roy Dotrice who played "Father" to Ron Perlman's "Vincent" on the 80's series "Beauty and the Beast" is in this film playing King Balor?!!! Herej's hoping these 2 fine actors have some scenes together. Now, if they could only get a cameo by Linda "Catherine" Hamilotn too...B&B fans would cream themselves!
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1st one was fun, better than most of the marvel/dc movies.
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I look forward to the second
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is supposed to be Abe. He's very dry and has a great sense of humor, he's not a freak. Wonderful character that they really botched.
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I ain't queer for Luke Goss or nuffink, but I'm glad Del Toro's giving him another shot. He was possibly the best thing in Blade II (outside of the maw design and Danny John Jules being in a major movie), and I don't think he got enough attention for his role. I hope GDT once again brings out the best in him, as I genuinely believe that man has a great performance in him, given the right director. Unlike, say, Orblando, out of whom not even Scott or Jackson have managed to get anything resembling a good turn.
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and him going back to those magical forest creatures is going to be amazing. just keep that ugly clumsy toad far away. and he's a fantastic writer as proved by pan's. and he made the best chelsea-grin i have ever seen.
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the beef-Tuatha de Dannan are the old Irish gods, Lucas glomed the name for Willow.
The first movie was eh. It deviated too far from the comic and too many logic holes, even for a fantasy film, to make it enjoyable. Ron Perlman nailed the movie version of HB, bitter about being locked away & hidden for 60 years, but the character wasn't close enough to the comic. Movie Abe was terrible, he seemed like someone that would snap in a stiff wind instead of someone that could survive being thrown on to sharp rocks by OgoPogo. And the HB-Liz romance? Out of place and creepy. If they can get into the story and we see lots of Mignola style beasties it may be OK. Here's hoping.
Donald
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and i am not a reader of the comic so sorry if this flies in the face of whatever fans like about it but--- your protagonist can not be some taciturn asshole the entire movie, it made me feel like i was watching what hollywood's idea of the type of a guy a nerd would relate to and i did not relate to him in the slightest. forgive me for enjoying having fun and not taking my life so crushingly seriously. in fact, that whole movie sucked.
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Can anyone name a single project that Perlman was involved in, in which he absolutely did a horrible job?
I sure can't. He absolutely steals entire movies away from people, and has got to be one of the most under-rated actors of the past 50 years. The guy takes mere walk-on roles and turns them into spotlight performances.
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is a lot closer to true in Sword of Storms. "Ah, you made the noobie face".
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But will there be dead raped deer?
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What happened? I thought we were gonna so ol' HB mix it up with the likes of Wolfman, Mummy, and Dracula. What gives? Oh yeah, they made a HORRIBLE movie called Van Helsing a few years back. Well there goes that idea.....
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They should have put more variety into the film. The martial arts Nazi guy was just generic and cliche. The baddie wasn't anything I hadn't seen before. The monster Sammy or whatever his name was just came back again and again. The movie itself didn't have much in terms of surprises. I think it had some great moments in it but overall needed something to push it over the top.
Best scene in the film in my opinion was when Hellboy's spying on Liz and the kid comes up to him and he's like "SHHHHHH!!! I'm on a mission." That was hilarious to me. Then when he throws a rock at that dude. Best things about the film: Character development, Ron Perlman, John Hurt, Jeffrey Tambor. Worst things about the film: Dragging scenes that didn't advance the story, the resurrecting, rubbery monster, the bad guy, the Nazi guy with the mask. -
and lighting of the panels in the comic books. And you are right, Doc, if you are going to make a movie with Chthulu you need to go visually insane.
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Jun 06, 2007 12:32:37 AM CDT
Ron Perlman should be the next Q/A subject on the tbs
by carmillavondoom
Bruce pretty much got everything off of his chest already imo.
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...the first Hellboy is one of my far and away favorite Comic to film adaptations and am too excited to see this one! Doug's work is always incredible to watch, he's one of the few reasons I even remotley want to see FF2.
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The Tuatha de Danann is the name of the race, not the name of the myth, but whatever. Very excited about seeing Irish mythology on screen - maybe it'll help me one day persuade someone to make the Tain. And rumour has it that del Toro is filming at the Giant's Causeway, which will rock well hard.
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Del toro+ monsters+ Hell boy+bigger budget = Good times ahead! Cant wait!
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Well it was! Silly re-generating monster that you cant kill....oh wait, you can kill it right at the end. Bit Like Batman Begins magic microwaves that pass through the bags of water called people but gets the water surrounded by metal in the sewers below. I honestly shouldnt be able to spot things like that in movies. Its just plain, lazy writing.
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I actually liked the first one. It wasn't fantastic as it could have been, but it stands the test of time as a good moive. Mainly from Perlman's performance and the nice direction. Still, hopefully this will be the Hellboy movie fans have been waiting for. Oh and ArcadianDS, Perlman is awesome but he did appear in a Uwe Boll movie remember
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Thanks for the heads up on the Director's Cut. I'll save my cash and get the regular version.
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When?
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Has more "making of" featurettes than any human could possibly watch or care about. But as for the cut of the movie itself, a couple scenes of Meyers and Liz making goo-goo eyes. One scene of villains in lair going "Mu-ha-ha." Not much else.
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film at 11.
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... and don't get the nerd hate on why it's not liked. Ok, maybe the comedy didn't always work with the darker elements of the story such as the nazi guy with the knives... who I absolutely loved... but when it worked it out spun spiderman 2 by a long way. Judging by some of the comments I've read recently it's safe to say you're going to luv Transformers which looks total shit to me, but won't give Del Toro a break, who let's face it, is 10x the director that Bay will ever be. Can't wait for HB2.
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On Jim Fitzpatrick, he of the classic Thin Lizzy album cover, 'Jailbreak'. Fitzpatrick rules Celtic mythology art. HB was good, just needed to have more variety with the monsters; that hurt the story overall.
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I thought he was brought in as the new Broom. It seems like a betrayal to have Broom pass the torch to him as Hellboy's friend/confidant/human ally and then not bring him back. I know the character was created for the movie so not many will agree with me because they felt he was forced on them as another Hollywood cliche for the masses, but I think his not coming back makes Myers's presence in the first one worse for me. If Jeffrey Tambor isn't back either then shit on everything.
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