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Helgeland Now One Of Ridley Scott's Merry Men!! He's Revising NOTTINGHAM!!
Merrick here...
Hollywood Reporter says Brian Helgeland (who wrote / directed a Harry fave called PAYBACK…pulled the same duty on A KNIGHT’S TALE, one of my faves…and wrote MAN ON FIRE, a fave of one of my good friends) has been brought in to rework NOTTINGHAM. In case you’ve missed it, this is Ridley Scott’s reinvention of ROBIN HOOD.
Strangely enough, just yesterday we received a review of the previous draft of this project, which was written by Ethan Reiff and Cyrus Voris. The review was sent in by a reader named TheScriptReviewer. He enjoyed elements of the script, but clearly indicated some changes needed to be made (citing sloppy storyline and tremendously clichéd dialog). We don’t know what fixes Helgeland will bring to the table, so the following details may now be moot. But, just for kicks, here’s The ScriptReviewer’s spoilery set-up of how NOTTINGHAM’s story begins:
Nottingham is to be released in 09’, this is both stunning and shocking because building up the hype for this movie in advance is going to be tough, but, before I jump into advertisement, lets talk about the script.
Nottingham is the basic storyline about Sheriff Robert TORNHAM and ROBIN HOOD. This script explores more of what we haven’t seen before in the Robin Hood tale. The basic plot is the love triangle between Maiden Marion, Hood, and Tornham. This script tries to twist the folklore around by saying Robin Hood is our villain and Torn is our victim.
The script starts out extremely well, we meet our hero Tornham in Castle Markup’s - 1191, the castle is under heavy siege. Flame is going throughout the castle, men are interlocked in fierce battle, (There’s a fucking amazing scene with two men fighting one, one gets hit with an axe in the face, too great). The castle is under siege by the GREEKS. We shown to a few battle scenes and finally to under the entire castle.
Under the castle our hero awaits with other soldiers. He sits with the others, drinking water and passing it around. Blood stains all of their faces, they’re all ready to die at this moment. Willingly letting God take them to where they desire, this isn’t going to happen. TORNHAM steals the goblet full of water. He places it on the ground.
The goblet remains still for seconds until it starts shaking; they’ve set the goblet on the ground to hear the enemy approaching the underground tunnel.
The goblet tips over, the top of the tunnel is smashed in - dirt, arrows, men all flying into the tunnel. All fight fiercely, blood sprays everywhere. Torn/Tornham defeats most of the men, they triumph over the Greek invaders.
After we’ve finished the battle, were now in a MANOR HOUSE, a celebration is being held. A man and a woman sneak out of the feast and into the forest, they start to kiss passionately when an arrow pierces both there hearts.
Were now back to the castle, we see a clear look of it. Almost completely burned to the ground. TORNHAM sits at his desk, his trusted servant THOMAS delivers a letter. In the letter it says that Richard the Lion heart is to leave for the crusades, and to take the new place of Sheriff will be TORNHAM…the beginning.
Tornham arrives in England, he’s greeted, cheered upon, and praised for his recent victories in Greece. SIR GUY GISBORNE meets TORHAM at the gate and introduces him to England’s finest castle. This is a good scene: we learn about the history of England, and much more. As we near Gisborne’s exit from the scene, we learn of a new bandit taking refuge in the forest. He goes by the name of ROBIN HOOD
So, again, this material is from Reiff and Voris’s previous draft. It could change a bit now that Helgeland’s on board, but is likely a fair indication of the overall direction Scott & Co. are taking.
This whole project trips me out. I’m always curious about, but never entirely comfortable with, this level of revisionism. Also, I’ve heard talk of a television project called NOTTINGHAM, proposed by Tim McCanlies (THE IRON GIANT, SECONDHAND LIONS) and…if memory serves…BATTLESTAR GALACTICA Executive Producer David Eick.
Their NOTTINGHAM would’ve painted Robin Hood as a fictitious creation, conjured by a besieged Sheriff as a patsy for the Sheriff’s conspiracy to steal from the King & give to the overburdened, over taxed poor.
I’m guessing this project faded into oblivion, as series proposals often do. Still, I find the parallel development here curious.
Nottingham is the basic storyline about Sheriff Robert TORNHAM and ROBIN HOOD. This script explores more of what we haven’t seen before in the Robin Hood tale. The basic plot is the love triangle between Maiden Marion, Hood, and Tornham. This script tries to twist the folklore around by saying Robin Hood is our villain and Torn is our victim.
The script starts out extremely well, we meet our hero Tornham in Castle Markup’s - 1191, the castle is under heavy siege. Flame is going throughout the castle, men are interlocked in fierce battle, (There’s a fucking amazing scene with two men fighting one, one gets hit with an axe in the face, too great). The castle is under siege by the GREEKS. We shown to a few battle scenes and finally to under the entire castle.
Under the castle our hero awaits with other soldiers. He sits with the others, drinking water and passing it around. Blood stains all of their faces, they’re all ready to die at this moment. Willingly letting God take them to where they desire, this isn’t going to happen. TORNHAM steals the goblet full of water. He places it on the ground.
The goblet remains still for seconds until it starts shaking; they’ve set the goblet on the ground to hear the enemy approaching the underground tunnel.
The goblet tips over, the top of the tunnel is smashed in - dirt, arrows, men all flying into the tunnel. All fight fiercely, blood sprays everywhere. Torn/Tornham defeats most of the men, they triumph over the Greek invaders.
After we’ve finished the battle, were now in a MANOR HOUSE, a celebration is being held. A man and a woman sneak out of the feast and into the forest, they start to kiss passionately when an arrow pierces both there hearts.
Were now back to the castle, we see a clear look of it. Almost completely burned to the ground. TORNHAM sits at his desk, his trusted servant THOMAS delivers a letter. In the letter it says that Richard the Lion heart is to leave for the crusades, and to take the new place of Sheriff will be TORNHAM…the beginning.
Tornham arrives in England, he’s greeted, cheered upon, and praised for his recent victories in Greece. SIR GUY GISBORNE meets TORHAM at the gate and introduces him to England’s finest castle. This is a good scene: we learn about the history of England, and much more. As we near Gisborne’s exit from the scene, we learn of a new bandit taking refuge in the forest. He goes by the name of ROBIN HOOD
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with no mention of "LA Confidential" is beyond me.
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than the crappy BBC Robin Hood.
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Looking forward to another round of Scott/Crowe
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Mel Brooks said it all.
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but do they really need to do yet another rehash of Robin Hood? What - was it that or the 44th remake of Oliver Twist? What happened to the talk of the War of the Barbary Pirates?
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I liked Payback, but all his other directorial efforts were pretty lame. When he's on top form writing, though, we get great films like L.A. Confidential and Mystic River. Hope his efforts on this pay off.
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So portraying him as an actual villain seems like an okay idea. My only problem is, does the world need yet another iteration of Robin Hood? Him and Tarzan can fuck off, as far as I'm concerned.P.S. What the hell is wrong with George Clooney and Andy Garcia's faces in that spinney Ocean's Thirteen ad over on the side? Those are, clearly, robot substitutes of some sort.
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is just fucking ace. I love that film despite Orlando Bloom, who is awful but just manages to rise to blandness where needed that he kind of doesn't hurt the film too much. But he is surrounded by such an awesome cast that it doesn't matter. That film is full of modern day thinking but it's just, probably Scott's best film in 10 years, and that's saying something too because Gladiator and Black Hawk Down are great too.
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Alot better.
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Alot better.
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...two-sworded Saracens in it?
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Kingdom of Heaven Dir Cut is awesome. The only problem is Orlando Bloom. Recast him and you'd have a classic. Oh and 1492 is awesome. Way overdue for a decent DVD release Mr Scott. Please?
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Enough with the revisionism! Robin Hood was a hero, the Sherriff was bad, and that's that.
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it's a shithole.
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Okay, so the gun and gang crime is out of hand - but then it used to be in Manchester until a few years back - but it has a lot going for it. The city centre of Nottingham is great for shopping and has a decent tram system in place. There's some great pubs too, my fav being The Pit and The Pendulum: a gothic horror style theme bar, way better than yet another Irish theme pub. But, you're right, the gang culture in the city and around the UK is a worry.
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...rather than some bullshit reimagining of it. I mean, the only good Robin Hood movie is still the Errol Flynn film. PRINCE OF THIEVES was a memorable part of my movie experience, but it's not a good movie, and I've been waiting for someone in Hollywood to take the character seriously. As a huge fan of the British 'Robin of Sherwood' series, I'd much rather see them take that kind of approach than this NOTTINGHAM thing, which sounds more like a 'What If...?' than a movie. Here's hoping that Helgeland can pull this one out of the shitheap it's otherwise destined to be in.
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Huh? Wha ? Eh? The Greeks invading a British castle in 1191? I take it this is from the largely ignore English / Greek war that raged between 1104 and 1674? The Greeks famously attacked British castles by flying over them on winged horses and dropping Gorgon heads into the Keeps. Then the army of Minotaurs would act as a seige machine while the centaurs would act as cavalry and encircle the camp in a pincer movement. I think the most famous of these battles was when King Arthur fought King Madeupeonisis in Avalon with only the Knights of the Round Table, Robin Hood, Braveheart, Dick Turpin and Judge Dredd at his side where Madeupeonisis had the feared and terrible 300 Harryhausens on his side. Many a harpie, skeleton, giant walrus, minoton and realistic baboon tasted British steel that day! The Greeks???? I have your first script revision right here for you!!!
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Is a great Robin Hood film and one that dares to tell of a fairly sympathetic Sheriff played by the magnificent Robert Shaw. I don't mind the idea of this so long as they don't have the fucking Greeks invading Britain!
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The Sheriff and Robin can team up to stop the invasion by the Chinese / Aboriginal / Mole Men axis of Evil of 1137. They then learn to respect each other and come to work together as in Lethal Weapon!
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...I'd prefer that Ridley Scott stay away from Robin Hood, and pretty much everything else. He's made a few good movies (this category does *not* include the execrable GLADIATOR), but overall, he's one of the worst 'style over substance' directors in history.
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But if your script idea doesn't make it, I'll still look forward to a Helgeland-scripted, Ridley Scott-directed action movie, whether the Errol Flynn version is insurmountable or not. If a man can script Man on Fire and L.A. Confidential, he's automatically forgiven for a few misses here or there.
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Are they all going to have CGI 6-pack abs? When the hell did Greece invade England? What... was their plan to destroy all the pubs and replace them with coffee shops and diners?
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I lived in Loughborough for a while and while there met my mums cousin who lived in Nottingham. Nice woman but when we went for a meal it turned out that her eyes were bigger than her belly! She had a terrible thyroid problem - it was like eating across from Marty Feldman!
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Actually from the moment that I typed my full stop on the heroic tale of the British against the Harryhausens I have had sixteen phonecalls from Stephen Sommers - if I don't pass the idea on then I am doomed to see this idea as his next film! Hegeland thankfully is good in most every thing - I hated The Sin Eater and I think that was his. Hopefully he will discard this arse about Greek Invasions!
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... the sturdy, no-nonsense English fended off that Greek invasion in the 11th century. Otherwise, history would've been changed forever. Like, American tourists would still bitch about how bad the food is... but it'd be gyros and baklava they'd be bitching about.
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It depresses the Hell out of me when a script with such a shitty opening (where one scene sees a man being hit in the face by an axe - doesn't mention if he is British or Greek) can get optioned! Seriously how would it go down with American studios script buyers if their next script biopic had George Custer being killed by an angry tribe of Lithuanians???? It wouldn't but a script by two people who can't collectively find out that Greece is nowhere near Britain and wasn't at war with Britain and never invaded Britain can get a script optioned? That is a bit depressing really!
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Jun 05, 2007 8:44:49 AM CDT
I just sad in the "Hercules"talkback, a few days ago...
by derlanghaarige
...that it has been a while since we had our last Robin Hood. And POW! There it is!
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...its called, "Robin Hood Vs. The Martians." Yes, martians land and try to take over Nottingham. I'm certainly excited about this epic event.
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Because that actually did happen! The scene where Little John trips over a Martian Tripod with brute strength and a quarterstaff alone will be worth the admission price alone! And on a side note I would be less incensed if it was a purely fantastical enemy like Martians, Vampires, Dinosaurs, zombies or lesbians!
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I own about four different versions of that anyway! Robin Hood: Prince of Muffs being the best one!
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Revisionist history of a made up fable? Impossible, n'est pa ?
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Anyone hear the Scott Commentary on the Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut? On it, Scott talks about doing a Robin Hood film as a sequel of sorts to Kingdom of Heaven - with Iain Glen reprising his role as King Richard.
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Yeah that gave me pause for a moment. But I guess the script actually starts off- like Prince of Thieves IIRC- in a Crusaders' castle abroad.
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It could be - and I did think of that but to consider it too much would have got in the way of a good rant! Even so the Greeks still don't make an awful lot of sense! The Turks yeah! The Cypriots yeah but not the Greeks!
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I have yet to see a good Robin Hood movie, apart from the Disney one, it might have been done a lot but not well. And who better than Scott? No way he's "style over substance", about his only flaw is Orlando Bloom.
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...is worth a peek. Stars Sean Connery and Audrey Hepburn, with Robert Shaw. Very gentle film, but quite grown up. Lovely sense of place too. I wanna go back home and see it now.
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I love Ridley Scott and will always enjoy the idea of a new Robin Hood flick, so this one sounds like lots of fun. But as for Helgeland and your introduction of him, Merrick, well, ugh. If you ask me, "Payback" was alright, a decent but ultimately forgettable movie; "A Knight's Tale" absolutely fucking blew in every meaning of the word; and "Man on Fire" was a headache-inducing two-and-a-half hour trailer. Let's hope he has something of some quality to offer this project.
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Scott/Crowe, Scorcese/DiCaprio or Burton/Depp???
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And why the Gladiator hate? Was it the Best Picture that year? No. But it's still a pretty fucking good film. Better than Hostel: Teil Zwei, anyway, but I digress...
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Can't believe this man will have directed 3 movies in a row(if this comes out before American Gangster)that I could care less about seeing. Come on man, you're not getting younger!
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The answer is d)Carpenter/Russell. And for Christ's sake, you list Scorcese/DiCaprio and not Scorcese/DeNiro?????
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While it does at first sight seem a little odd- lets give the writers some credit. They wouldn't have put Greeks in without at least leafing through a text book first. Personally I suspect this has something to do with Constantinople- then part of the Byzantine Empire (strongly Greek). Wikipedia it yourself, but looks to me like there were clashes with Crusaders.
Mind you, some studio suit will probably insist on changing this to something that's probably a lot *less* historically accurate, with the argument- "No! You can't use Greeks! That'll just confuse people! People are stupid! Lets turn it into a battle with Ancient Egyptians instead! That sounds *much* more believable!"
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Jun 05, 2007 10:52:42 AM CDT
t.piper.gates. here's an arrowhead pointed at you.
by stereotypical evil archer
Don't mock my username and lifestyle choices. I deserve to be a villain in any and every Ridley Scott movie. I shoot to the left and I shoot to the right, because I shoot in glorious STEREO!
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Yeah - I used to know a lot about the Crusades and if I remember then during the Third Crusade - the one that this one would be about the Byzantine Empire were mostly shit scared of Barbarossa (not Geoffrey Rush) and while they were not pro Western Crusaders they didn't fight that much. It did happen I s'pose! Still be better if it was the Turks or the Cypriots! And I don't want to look it up in Wikipedia because that might say that the Byzantine Empire had steam powered diamond encrusted Elephant Tanks!!!!
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Scott should ditch this sort of garbage and get on with Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy. Willam Monahan has done the screenplay, a terrific choice.
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...that in one of the Crusades, the Crusaders took a detour on the way to Jerusalem to sack Constantinople, capital of the Byzantine Empire. Maybe that's where the Greeks come in. It'd probably make more sense dramatically to have the Crusaders fighting Arabs, but: A)Hollywood-think, "That 300 movie racked up the bucks... can we put some Greeks in this thing?" And B) Hollywood-think again, "Not Arabs as bad guys again... sheesh, the Muslim groups are already pissed enough about 24... can we make 'em Greeks or something instead?"
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jeez is there a denomination one can come up with any more without unwittingly naming some talbacker?
anyway you must be really exited about this one, and that green arrow prison movie...too bad goyer is handling it. -
jeez is there a denomination one can come up with any more without unwittingly naming some talkbacker?
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site is too quick
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They're apparently playing a little with history, but not that much. The only Greeks that Richard the Lionheart had to fight during the Third Crusade were the ones in Cyprus, in 1191.
While travelling to the Holy Land, the ship that carried Richard's sister, fiancée and treasury was shipwrecked in Cyprus. The Byzantine ruler of the island tried to keep the gold and tell Richard to take a hike. Richard landed his army and conquered the island in a matter of days. Funny thing, Richard had promised not to put the dude in irons, so he kept him locked up in silver chains.
So it makes no sense for the Englishmen in this movie to be the ones being besieged, if anything, they should be the ones storming the castles. Unless this guy is supposed to be the one that Richard left in charge of Cyprus after he left.
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Like for example, kingdon of heaven looked amazing, had great battlescenes, and a towering permformance by ed norton. No amount of gleaming skylines or sunkissed vines in Provance or scenes of sunlight streaming through russells french maison windows could save this movie from the bleeding obvious: russell cant do rom-com and Scott cant direct rom-com. The first film Crowe made, was romantic comedy co-starring Salma Hayek. You possibly dont remember that one. and with good reason, it sank without trace. Crowe then re-cast himself as a heavyweight serious actor and hollywood bruiser. His real break came with virtosity and that was on the back romper stomper.
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'nuff said.
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sorry...
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...was a rich man from Nottingham who tried to cross the river.
What a joke!
He tripped on a rope!
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Might I have the pleasure of your name, before I have ya run through?
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ROBIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNN!
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Jun 05, 2007 12:23:36 PM CDT
Christ, this seems like something a dog coughed out...
by stalin vs predator
But hey, there's a love triangle in it! I haven't seen this novel concept in movies for so long!
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Must mean Byzantines. The Western christians and Eastern Christians got on each others nerves sometimes and came to blows. Then there was that whole sacking of Constantinople thing in 1204. Right, sorry about that one chums.
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One who cannot see your beauty.
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You are still alive.
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Even this boy can be taught to find the chinks in every suit of ahhmor.
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I CAN'T DO THIS WITH ALL THAT RACKET!
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Great movie, either cut is entertaining. I prefer the new director's cut.
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The GLADIATOR hate exists because it's an over-long, plastic-looking, boring revenge film, focused on a self-centered and murderous protagonist (who is touted as a "hero" but is actually not the least bit heroic), who ultimately has a face off with a sniveling teenager who can pose no real threat to him without cheating, thus robbing the film of a truly satisfying payoff after nearly three hours of build-up. The only things that movie had going for it were: a) the innate charisma of Russell Crowe, b) the entrance and presence of Richard Harris, and c) a good trailer that made the film seem far more epic and awe-inspiring by using Basil Poledouris's magnificent CONAN score. There's a far better and much more involving period film on the theme of revenge, that has a sword fight that is still unmatched - ROB ROY. And, if you trade blades for guns, nothing beats THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES. Everything else - especially GLADIATOR - pales.
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... who's the hottie in t-shirt and torn jeans in the ad in the upper right corner?!!?
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Is actually movie in which the characters have motivations, themes are developed, and relationships built.Unlike the theatrical cut where Orlando is just a berzerc blacksmith who irrationally kills a priest, goes on the run with his estranged father who dies minutes later, then goes to the Holy Land pulls some Yojimbo tactics and bails back to France when the shit hits the fan to enjoy a honeymoon with Vesper Lynd.
For all of you who hated Gladiator, you should check out the director's cut of KofH. These films are almost opposites in terms of scope, theme, message and character development. -
Not so much. A gentle reminder that Prince John, when he ascended to the throne after Richard's death authored the Magna Carta. Also, Richard's adventures in the crusades and subsequent capture and ransoming by the Byzantine Empire very nearly bankrupted the English treasury, thus necessitating the exorbitant taxes that Prince John had to levy in order to pay down the debt. The real historical context in which the Robin Hood folk tale occurred paints a picture of a beleaguered Prince John tasking the Sheriff of Nottingham with collecting taxes to pay a debt run-up the Prince's irresponsible brother all the while being harassed by a gang of brigands ("hoods") who, while professing loyalty to the King, are actually just a gang of thieves.
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Robin Hood? Ridley, you needs to make sci-fi again! Blade Runner 2!! I can't feel exited about another robin hood movie, i mean come on how many more times can they tell the same story? What, now he's the bad guy? So what's next? Marion a crossdresser and the priest dude, brother tuck, is a horny leper woman in disguise? Come on, Ridley, get out of the boring woods. Fuck trees and grass, it's time to go back to space, the empty void of where nobody can hear you scream. Time to revisit the xenomorphs, time to meet the elephantine race. Fuck bows and arrows, give me a Warhammer 40k movie, give me storm bolters and nuke the site from the fucking orbit. Give us spacehulks floating of the edge of chaos. Give us Alien 5 with an all new cast of non famous actors!! Do it together with James Cameron. I don't care if it's low budget!!! Make it straight to DVD for all i care. Give us fucking Robocop with the original actor set farther in the future, maybe they upgraded him or something!! Give us fucking a Evangelion live action movie! Where's the Blade Runner sequel they talked about years back? Call Arnold and make crusade! Or make a Conan movie! Anything but the fucking woods of Sherwood, please i beg of you!!
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Yes, you created me.
And I thank you for that.
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The guy who provides for the poor is the bad guy, and the rich are the good guys. gotcha.
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Props Mosquito March for laying out an excellent explination for an argument I've had many times with people who defend GLADIATOR. The film failed on so many levels and I'll add another one. In a film called GLADIATOR, shouldn't we at least be given a glimpse of the emotional conflict among the gladiators themselves? The conflict that comes from training and living with each other like a sports team but not wanting to form any bonds of friendship because they might end up facing each other in mortal combat. This point was illustrated so well in SPARTICUS, but Scott&Co. totally dropped the ball to focus on a lame incest storyline while reducing Crowe's role to a revenge lustful Terminator in the ring who can kill 4 guys twice his size without breaking a serious sweat. I can't relate to either of these story lines, so in the end I just tuned out. This film was a HUGE LET DOWN.
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Tornham was the guy Richard left behind in Cyprus and put down the uprising. Thus "Greeks" is accurate, from that time period.
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"I'm robbing Peter to pay Paul, brother !"
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Cocky young American business men set up a factory in Mexico where they abduct locals and force them into laboring making American consumer goods. Whenever the workers begin to try to unionize and make demands they are tortured in cruel and unusual ways.Eventually a laborer named El Robino begins to fight back against The Nottingham Corporation's top brass using guerilla tactics but when they won't bend to his demands he slaughters them at their thanksgiving dinner.
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He never ceases to surprise me. But why is anime so freakin' gay sometimes.
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As far as I know, crossbows didn't exist for another thousand or so years after this shit movie took place. You might as well have had Orlando Bloom wielding an AK-47 in Kingdom of Heaven.
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that Scott makes a decent movie. Most of the last ones were mediocre at best.
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...crossbows DID exist in Roman times. Find something else to nitpick on you silly frustrated man.
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...enough with the period pieces already: SCI-FUCKING-FI RIDLEY!! That's all I have to say.
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That would be awesome. Great idea, necco! I loved Romero's Knightriders and would love a historical epic done with motorcycles and some pistols. Maybe do a retelling of the Peloponesian war with muscle cars and bazookas!If you make it, necco, I'll go see it!
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enough with the past. Back to the future baby!
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So, once again the powers that be cant come up with a decent idea so they simply have to butcher a legendary character/tale. Robin Hood as a villain in a love triangle? Give me a break, I think I'm going to puke. But, why stop there, how about they turn Robin into a chick and call her Starbuck?
As others have said, get your ass back into space/Sci-fi Mr. Scott! It's a good thing that we have some great Robin Hood films already such as "The Adventures of Robin Hood" starring Errol Flynn, as well as the underrated less known flick "Robin Hood" starring Patrick Bergin, and the fantastic 1984 series "Robin of Sherwood" (and the Disney cartoon is great too!) -
This is set in the 12th century when the Byzantine Empire was at it's strongest. So perhaps the first part is set in the Crusades. Cuz the Greeks never went anywhere NEAR England! Seriously WTF?! That's a confusing plot there.
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"Not so much. A gentle reminder that Prince John, when he ascended to the throne after Richard's death authored the Magna Carta."
>>>>> He didn’t authored anything. The Barons forced it out of him, practically at swordpoint. He never had any intention of complying with it.
Also, Richard's adventures in the crusades and subsequent capture and ransoming by the Byzantine Empire very nearly bankrupted the English treasury, thus necessitating the exorbitant taxes that Prince John had to levy in order to pay down the debt.
>>>>> The Byzantines didn’t capture Richard. It was the Duke of Austria, who handed him afterwards to the Holy Roman Emperor. It was the HR Emperor who demanded 150,000 silver marks as ransom.
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You're absolutely right - SPARTACUS showed exactly how horrifying the 'sport' was by putting Spartacus and his friend Draba in the arena to fight each other. If Maximus had to kill one of his friends, it might have put his previous spree of meaningless violence in some kind of perspective. Unfortunately, Ridley Scott is more interested in creating his revisionist Rome than putting any thought into the characters or their motivations. And, that's the main problem I have with Scott in general. he churns all this shit out at an alarming rate, and none of it really means anything.
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conventifying it. Brilliant. Cool idea. Just the best. That's using both sides of ya brain!
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"Yes, martians land and try to take over Nottingham."
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It was a favorite of mine when I was a kid. The Sherriff was more of an honorable antagonist than the out and out hero, but it had a similar story. It also was set two hundred years earlier than most Robin Hood stories were set (shortly after the Norman Invasion) so it gave the Norman/Saxon feud a more urgent militaristic tone. I wouldn't mind them making a movie of that.
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alien movies and no amount of big pay cheque-ery is going to convince Weaver to do anymore. Weaver has had enough.
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Thats hilarious! maybe Scott is doing the commercial for the empire again, like he did in Black Hawk Down? Do head back to space Scott, we need some more Bladerunners, but feel free to make some epic medieval stuff first. Oh those noble times when the nature was untamed and men were men and split each others skulls with axes. Might be true he doesnt go as deep as he could but he tells a mighty fine historical tale, like none these days, unless you somehow enjoyed the metrosexual Alexander? Stereo Typical Evil Archer, I'm deeply honored, I feel like Dr. Frankenstein.
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Nuff said.
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I stand corrected. Thanks.
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Personally, I'd like to see Robin And the Lesbians From Mars! Has a cool fifties vibe to it. Throw in some le olde vampire zombies riding dinosaurs and Ridley's got my ten bucks! Woo-hoo!
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I am commenting on a review for a script and from the tantilising opening of the review - not a very well written one but it confused me by stating that the 'Greek Invaders' and setting it in a castle - and then by stating that Tornham gets a message saying that Richard is leaving for the Crusades as all the Cyprus battles took place after he left and - my brain has been addled by too many hits to the head and the fact I watched Troy a second time
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No it didn't. It was, in fact, a barrel of cock.
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