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Behold Eli Roth... beaten, whipped and tortured for the crimes he's committed in HOSTEL: PART 2!!!

Hey folks, Harry here... It's pretty much known that Eli Roth and I are friends - So I know that what I have to say about HOSTEL: PART 2 will be pretty much, summarily dismissed as just being shilling for Eli Roth. That said, HOSTEL: PART 2 is vastly superior to the first HOSTEL film, which I loved. This time, instead of the "Ugly American" frat rats - you have genuine likable characters that you don't want to see mistreated. That you do care about. The "kills" are wonderfully theatrical and over the top, and not the brutal types that you see in the first film. Make no mistake, they're bloody and hard, but it's a different kind of violence. Just about every aspect of this film is superior to the first across the board. And it really shows how Eli has continued to mature as an artist. That said... I really felt Eli deserved to be beaten within an inch of his life by people that know how to do it. Tim League felt he deserved to be whipped in front of an Alamo Audience. And the girls doing it, relished beating this torturer of women. So for your pleasure, we present the humiliation of Eli Roth...

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  • June 4, 2007, 7:56 p.m. CST


    by RedEyeDistrict

    i think i fucked that up

  • June 4, 2007, 7:58 p.m. CST

    second to last?

    by Oceanlizard


  • June 4, 2007, 8:04 p.m. CST

    This is basically the definition of self parody, right?

    by team america

    I mean, I do think that's what we've descended to, here. Jesus, Harry.

  • June 4, 2007, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Seriously, this couldn't have been appended...

    by team america

    to a previous Roth post? Really? We need another one <b>just for this?</b>

  • June 4, 2007, 8:19 p.m. CST


    by Pound Sand

    Eli Roth, call your therapist, and keep your mom on speaker phone.

  • June 4, 2007, 8:46 p.m. CST


    by BrightEyes


  • June 4, 2007, 8:53 p.m. CST

    At last

    by RenoNevada2000

    Torture porn that even Nicki Finke will get off on.

  • June 4, 2007, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Despite all the hate for Eli....

    by DarthTarter

    Part of me thinks he is the kind of guy you could have a beer with. Even though I didn't like Hostel and have no interest Hostel II, I really did like Cabin Fever. I think he has some good ideas in his head, hiding somewhere behind the various ways to kill tourists. The test will be seeing if he can drop the presumed ego over becoming the "future of horror" and give us a good fright flick without resorting to the simple tactics of excessive gore. If I did get to have a beer with him, I'd challenge him to make a movie that scares me...or at least creeps me out...without a drop of blood. There is a challenge for him.

  • June 4, 2007, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Do you do this just to make us angry?

    by bluemcpoo

    And is there some sort of filter that will automatically drop all the Hostel II content from the site?

  • June 4, 2007, 8:58 p.m. CST

    When you're finished with the humour

    by MontyPigeon

    Can you ask Eli whatever happened to the story within the film? Being as he wrote (gulp) the script and was responsible for the (gulp) characters? Or is film dead for that matter and abandoned to a single idea of an outrageous kill to end one these days? Sounds like the same thing Uwe Boll does, apart from the fact he gets ripped apart for it. Stick to television Eli, many short subject films which can be void of script and characters appear on there. Motion pictures are too much of a big step for you, as we see with many other talented directors/writers as yourself. I am sure Eli that one day you will be admired as a film maker rather than someone trying, and also failing to shock. Now continue with the blowing Harry, isn't that right Eli. It all helps out the $ite.

  • June 4, 2007, 9:01 p.m. CST

    What was the point

    by bluemcpoo

    of the beginning scene anyways? Was Hernandez contractually obligated to appear in the sequel, or did Roth just need to put 5 more useless minutes and SPOILER one more headless body END SPOILER in the movie?

  • June 4, 2007, 9:07 p.m. CST

    The funniest thing...

    by team america

    is that Harry shamelessly admits that this will be seen as shilling for his friend, and doesn't bother to dismiss that notion at all.

  • June 4, 2007, 9:08 p.m. CST


    by MaryTylerMorbid

    Does anybody care? Why does Harry even report this stuff? Hasn't it already been made abundantly crystal clear that Eli Roth is a hack and a bore and his movies lick it?

  • June 4, 2007, 9:10 p.m. CST

    JEEZ, all the Hostel haters just GO AWAY

    by Toxic Frog

    OK, we get it! Eli Roth is a talentless hack, his movies have no redeeming value, and only sick freaks enjoy them. Good lord, you bunch are worse than Jack Thompson. If this site were active in the 70s, you'd be frothing about the moral depravity of Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Go make your own family-friendly horror films or shut the hell up.

  • June 4, 2007, 9:14 p.m. CST


    by CQuest

    at least harry is finally starting to get it, but my my GOD how many fuckin interviews and shit can you put up for this fuckin movie? we arent accusing you of shilling, its a FACT. fuck outta here with this shit.

  • June 4, 2007, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Exactly, SoylentMean

    by Toxic Frog

    I love a really disturbing horror movie. Any movie that can give me the heebie jeebies is a good one. I love being creeped out and wincing in horror, then laughing the fear away afterward. It's a movie, not snuff. I personally think the idea of rich businessmen paying top dollar to torture and kill kidnapped kids is a kickass premise for a horror movie. Operative word being 'movie', as in 'fiction'.

  • June 4, 2007, 9:26 p.m. CST

    where are BrightEyes and Spaztronic?

    by BadMrWonka

    I want to har more about how anyone that doesn't like Eli Roth's films is a "jealous film school dropout faggot."<p>the sheer brilliance of that argument leaves me in awe.<p>these are the kind of mental giants that pay to see Roth's movies. And unfortunately, there are a lot of them out there.

  • June 4, 2007, 9:26 p.m. CST

    oh man, right on cue...

    by BadMrWonka

    that's a baby...

  • June 4, 2007, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Roth is trying to turn this into a joke now?

    by JackPumpkinhead

    Pathetic. As pathetic as both of his 16 year old fans (the one whose single shiny part is, allegedly, his eye, will bark here soon enough, no doubt.)

  • June 4, 2007, 9:31 p.m. CST

    but...they arent FRIENDS

    by CQuest

    friends talk to each other, rely on each other. eli just uses harry and harry just uses roth. thats not a friendship. thats just a pair of leeches. and obviously we all know this site aint exactly for news. but at one point, it used to be.

  • June 4, 2007, 9:33 p.m. CST

    hey Eli...

    by BadMrWonka

    this is who you got on your side...homophobic simpleton kids who can barely get through one barely coherent sentence without mixing up "your" and "you're", or "their" and "they're"...and who think "you're a fag!" is a legitimate argument.<p>make you proud?

  • June 4, 2007, 9:38 p.m. CST

    BadMrWonka, the irony of your post is hilarious

    by Toxic Frog

    "this is who you got on your side..." you exclaimed, with nary a thought spent on capitalization, punctuation, or conjugation as you ridiculed others for their spelling errors. I GUFFAW at you, sir! GUFFAW, I SAY!

  • June 4, 2007, 9:47 p.m. CST



    Here comes the hate!

  • June 4, 2007, 9:49 p.m. CST


    by The Dum Guy the new Die Hard is rated R?

  • June 4, 2007, 9:50 p.m. CST


    by lecter1914

    Okay, this outdoes the completely pointless article for the "original" Hostel where Harry felt the need to show us a picture of vomit. PLEASE TALKBACKERS, CAN WE NOT TALKBACK ON ANYMORE THREADS RELATED TO HOSTEL??? Maybe then the staff will get the poing.

  • June 4, 2007, 9:52 p.m. CST


    by BadMrWonka

    Toxic...I don't capitalize the beginnings of sentences as a tribute to bell hooks.<p>Spaz, you have made enough mistakes in other talkbacks to justify the comment, trust me brother.<p>and in the other talkback, I wrote a lengthy and detailed argument about why I thought Hostel was a useless movie, and what did you do? you called me a fag yet again, and ignored every point I made. so don't complain about the "Roth-haters" not having any ammunition. YOU are the one ignoring it. someone says, "fuck eli roth" and you say, "fuck you, faggot!". both of you are being idiots. I had a legitimate gripe with the movie, and seeing as how you seem to have a brain the size of a chic pea, you just sidestepped it.<p>and not for nothing, but saying you have nothing against "gays" while you throw around "faggot" as the funniest insults you can come up with...well, that's a bit like calling me a nigger and saying, "but hey, I love the blacks!"

  • June 4, 2007, 9:53 p.m. CST


    by The Dum Guy

    I'm just going to post this for the hell of it.

  • June 4, 2007, 9:54 p.m. CST

    I saw a commercial for LFoDH last night...

    by The Dum Guy

    ...and it said that hasn't yet been rated, so I don't know.

  • June 4, 2007, 10 p.m. CST

    I used to work with a bunch of British guys

    by Toxic Frog

    When I wanted to step out for a smoke, I'd invite them to come with me outside to suck on a fag. For some reason the American guys would tilt their heads and raise their eyebrows like Spock.

  • June 4, 2007, 10:02 p.m. CST

    He ain't no F*CKING ARTIST!!!!!!!

    by Power_Girl

    Get your head out of your ass Harry or I will boycott this site.

  • June 4, 2007, 10:06 p.m. CST

    HIJACKED: lets make this the new ARI GOLD thread

    by CQuest

    ari gold has to be my favorite character on entourage.....right behind johnny fuckin drama. I cant wait for the moment johnny gets gets fired from his show. gonna be so classic.

  • June 4, 2007, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Example of why Roth's "films" suck

    by lecter1914

    One of the first scenes in Cabin Fever is of the "shaving chick" yelling at a little boy "Fuck Finals, Fuck School, Fuck YEAH!" (or something to that effect) and the dialogue of the entire movie went pretty much like that.

  • June 4, 2007, 10:16 p.m. CST

    entourage is about

    by CQuest

    Film star Vince Chase, who navigates the vapid terrain of Los Angeles with a close circle of friends and his trusty agent. Funny little show on HBO. its a show about nothing like seinfeld, but set in the excess of hollywood

  • June 4, 2007, 10:17 p.m. CST

    This is my only account and I can get news elswhere!

    by Power_Girl

    This site depends on hits so it makes money...if I don't come here at least I know I wont be supporting the staff so they can continually perform fellatio on Eli Roth. Most of the people here despise Torture Porn and Roth attitude about it. It only makes it worse when he and his fans try and justify this rubbish.

  • June 4, 2007, 10:38 p.m. CST

    I seriously just do not get all the hate for Eli Roth

    by DirkAngerReloaded23

    I didn't see Hostel 1 simply because, even though I am a movie freak, I am just not into horror movies that are more about blood & guts/torture, than actual thrills & scares. Cabin Fever I did enjoy though because it had a modicum of humor that came across well & balanced out the blood & guts; & the Thanksgiving trailer was just downright hysterical. I really had no intention of seeing Hostel 2 simply cause I didn't see the first one, but after watching the commercial for it last week I thought it actually looked worth seeing, especially since the guy from the TV series the Sentinel, & apparently Desperate Housewives (hate that friggin show), was in it & I found his part pretty funny. So tonight, after scoring some passes from a friend of mine here in Philly, I attended a pre-screening of it and you know what, I thought it was great. Was the movie bloody? Yes. Was it pretty graphic? Yes. Should you watch it if you have a weak stomach? No. Yet, was it as graphic and heinous as most would lead you to believe? Hell no. It's really entertaining actually. The audience that I was watching it with was really into it from beginning to end, especially at the end when 2 of the main villians get what's coming to them, one spectacularly so. Yet again, the movie had enough humor sprinkled throughout to balance out all the blood & gore and to keep you invested in the characters. The coolest part of the movie was the storyline involving the rich guys that buy their way into the hostel to fullfill their thrill/kill fantasies. The camera follows them step by step, from purchasing their eventual victims online in a worldwide bidding war, to their journey to the hostel, where one overly aggressive purchaser, who has brought his best friend with him, tries to psyche his friend up into killing mode, to the eventual torture of the individual victims, or vice versa; you find out. Afterward there was a q & a session with Eli Roth himself and the guy came across as nothing but a cool, down to earth, & funny assed dude. He answered questions for about 30 minutes and was courteous with everyone there. I found nothing unlikable about the guy & for those people out there knocking him how about this: see the movie for yourself before you knock it. It actually is good and has a great ending, which always helps.

  • June 4, 2007, 10:39 p.m. CST


    by UMAGA

    Dumbest fucking argument possible. Okay, are you going to be the one supplying the cast, crew, press, and millions of dollars? Fuck.

  • June 4, 2007, 10:39 p.m. CST

    And if we can't discuss the movie..

    by UMAGA

    What are we here for?

  • June 4, 2007, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Good LORD, some of you are stupid.

    by Zarles

    Okay, first of all, let's bitch about Harry being a shill for Eli Roth, and THEN send a talkback ABOUT Eli Roth into the stratosphere by claiming that 'fact' over and over and over and over again. 'You're a shill, Harry! You've sold out! Here's another thousand page views and posts to tell you how angry I am about it! Wait - you get paid for those page views and posts? Oh.'<p>Next, let's all state our opinions, and then dismiss OTHER people's opinions because OUR opinions are obviously fact. Oh, and we'll also call each other 'faggots' while we do it. Yeah!<p>And then, to sum it all up, let's all threaten this site with a boycott, and THEN POST AGAIN FOURTEEN MINUTES LATER.<p>Seriously, some of you are the dumbest wastes of flesh EVER. Do us all a favor - go graduate from junior high, and then after you do that, kill yourselves. I'm fairly certain that evolution will take at LEAST a half-a-step forward if you do.

  • June 4, 2007, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Wrong Power_Girl

    by Exterminans

    Most of the people who come here may or may not like the first Hostel but very few of them despise Roth or the film based on the small minded, idiotic opinion (by a small minority of uptight assholes) that its torture porn. We have something in this country called freedom of speech. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Why post at all and bring further attention to a film you despise? Why? Because you're a drama queen.

  • June 4, 2007, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Then go put on your Donald Duck suit...

    by Zarles

    ...and shut the fuck up.

  • June 4, 2007, 11:21 p.m. CST


    by BadMrWonka

    you wrote, in reference to anyone that doesn't like Eli Roth:<p>"these guys are a bunch of fucking pussies that want to go see some faggy movies with their boyfriend and blow them in the theater"<p>and then a few hours were suprised when no one took you seriously. are you still not getting the connection here? if you spout off like an idiotic middle schooler, you will be treated as such. it's pretty simple.

  • June 4, 2007, 11:22 p.m. CST

    and I said, "enjoy your steak"

    by BadMrWonka

    nothing about me eating one. if you're going to use childish homophobic jokes, at least get the reference right.

  • June 4, 2007, 11:25 p.m. CST

    zarles u miss the point

    by CQuest

    which is to bitch and moan because we are the consumers. its our power here. to bitch. and moan. so..... FUCK HOSTEL

  • June 4, 2007, 11:56 p.m. CST

    I loved the first one, Second one is vastly superior.

    by lost.rules

    Your words, Harry. Not mine.

  • June 4, 2007, 11:59 p.m. CST


    by Atticus Finch

    How many fucking articles is Aint It Schill News going to post for this turd?

  • June 5, 2007, 12:06 a.m. CST

    Eli does seem like a cool guy, but that doesn't...

    by lost.rules

    excuse him from making such tripe.

  • June 5, 2007, 12:07 a.m. CST

    The picture looks like Tranny Porn

    by Nezzer6364

    It makes it look like Roth is taking it in ass from a tranny or what he calls Saturday night. The video would have been better and more fitting if they had cut his dick off and then killed him.

  • June 5, 2007, 12:10 a.m. CST

    I do not like these films, but...

    by Bronx Cheer

    The only thing worthwhile about these Hostel films is the play on words contained within the title "Hostel." I thought that was clever. As for the actual films, I do not care for them. But I congratulate Mr. Roth on his success. I don't like his movies, but there's obviously an audience for them.</p> <p>I just watched the director's cut of "Payback." Now there's a first-rate film.</p>

  • June 5, 2007, 12:19 a.m. CST

    There's no substance to his films.

    by Retlaw Kciuq

    Of course, I've only see Hostel but I haven't heard anything that far off from what I expected in Cabin Fever. Tits and ass aren't my thing and that's what I saw in Hostel. <br> <br> And yeah, if I want an artsy film or something which values story and character, I will be seeing it with my boyfriend. Though voyeurism really isn't my thing

  • June 5, 2007, 12:29 a.m. CST


    by Derek Wildstarr

    So when the dude got his ear cut off in Resevoir Dogs, was that torture porn?

  • June 5, 2007, 1:23 a.m. CST

    Derek Wildstarr

    by Chilli815

    Pretty damn close. Cept for not being shown and having a logical place within the story, as well as revealing the true character of Mr. Blonde. But that was a good scene which was well shot and from a great film. It wasn't excessive and it fit the narrative.

  • June 5, 2007, 1:31 a.m. CST

    Why exaggerate the amount of violence in Hostel?

    by Some Dude

    The scenes of violence are punctuation. Some of you sissies act like the majority of the film is close-up shots of torture. I'd bet the violence makes up less than 10 percent of the film's running time.

  • June 5, 2007, 1:56 a.m. CST

    re: Chilli815

    by The Dum Guy

    ...maybe the whole point to some of these "torture-porn" scenes is to be "excessive and [f9r] it [to] fit the narrative."

  • June 5, 2007, 2:13 a.m. CST

    I have to admit i near spat my beer over my wife when

    by bongo123

    the asian bird was getting half her face blow torched... i really wasnt expecting that scene... fuck knows what im gonna see in hostel 2, id just hate to be the fucker sitting in front of me at the cinema

  • June 5, 2007, 2:14 a.m. CST

    The Dum Guy

    by Chilli815

    The nature of excessive is something that goes too far. If the story is good, you don't need to have a scene showing ultra-violence. It seems Horror is attempting to shock audiences with ultra-violent kills instead of have them reacing with surprised awe to a solid number of peaks and valleys.

  • June 5, 2007, 2:39 a.m. CST


    by cdp

    Great movie....better than the first

  • June 5, 2007, 4:28 a.m. CST

    Eli Roth - his films are shit

    by kwisatzhaderach

    In the immortal words of Forrest Dump: "That's all I gotta say about that."

  • June 5, 2007, 4:35 a.m. CST

    The first paragraph was made from 80% recycled material

    by BannedOnTheRun

    Harry just did a search and replace of Cabin Fever with Hostel and Hostel with Hostel 2.

  • June 5, 2007, 5:10 a.m. CST

    I ask myself "Why do people want to see these films?"

    by BenBraddock

    Torture - I'm sure the majority of people on this site would agree - is a truly horrible thing. I wish it didn't exist in the world. It makes me sad the things we do do to each other, for whatever "cause" or purpose. I honestly, truthfully have no desire to see someone tortured in real life. Nor do I want to see it up on the silver screen. There have, of course, been films in the past that have involved torture as a part of their plotlines, to devastating effect (couple that come to mind are "Reservoir Dogs" and "Syriana"); scenes that had me squirming in my seat but accepting that, OK, this was a necessary plot device and not just exploitative. That for me is acceptable - torture exists and is always going to, and some films will need to deal with that issue. But (here it comes) the "Hostel" films seem to revel in the pain, terror and sadism that torture entails, as entertainment, with the express design of turning a buck. I find that wrong, pretty reprehensible actually, and sad that major studios are now prepared to go so far as to back, produce and release such pictures. Capitalism's dark side indeed. I'm not saying the pictures should be banned, just that I find it sad and not a little bit sick that the first one didn't just flop at the box-office, never to be heard of again. Nope, as it turns out, a lot of people wanted to see it. And now we are asked to endure "Hostel 2". That depresses me.

  • June 5, 2007, 5:14 a.m. CST

    The 2nd is a RE-MAKE not a sequel!

    by TheHorror

    Geez, I want some answers! How can ANYONE who isn't either staring Roth in the Eyes and can't shoot a puppy so to speak OR has no clue about anything ever...I would like for someone, anyone, even Roth himself to say why this is an ADDITION to the first - not just a different bunch of people getting tortured. Fuck this film - they should've cut his balls off in that video - I'm dissapointed, only I'm not because that would be an NC-17 straight to DVD kind of "trick". Fuck this film.

  • June 5, 2007, 6:27 a.m. CST


    by Chilli815

    Word. Total word.

  • June 5, 2007, 6:48 a.m. CST


    by NachoNegro

    More sh1t about Hostel II. Seriously, give it a f*cking rest Harry. Fine, Roth is your friend, but enough is enough - stop sucking his tool and get back to covering real news.

  • June 5, 2007, 6:55 a.m. CST

    Aint It Cool doesn't listen, does it?

    by Mr Gorilla

    There's been loads of stuff on the talkbacks of people questioning the validity of 'torture porn' - what it is, whether Hostel actually qualifies as 'torture porn', whether or not it's a sick or irresposible thing to be making/releasing. And the guys who write this site just keep spooning the press releases down our throats. Thanks, guys.

  • June 5, 2007, 6:58 a.m. CST

    harry pt. 2

    by TheHorror

    Cannot wait to read why you think this is a great sequel - be sure to put in references about Aliens, road warrior, devil rejects etc and actually tell us WHY YOU THINK Hostel pt2 compares - not like roth "it ups the ante" eh, how? with the end scene? Is that it? fuck this film!

  • June 5, 2007, 7 a.m. CST

    'We have something in this country

    by Mr Gorilla

    ...called freedom of speech.' The guy who wrote that made me choke with laughter! Like showing an Asian woman getting her eye blowtorched is freedom of speech! Jesus wept.

  • June 5, 2007, 7:05 a.m. CST

    Another thing that should be noted...

    by TheHorror

    I ain't in to the whole "Torture Porn" debate as such, I just think this film shoulkd be recognised as one of the worst films ever! However, Harry K has shot himself in his big hairy foot by saying these aren't frat boys you hate, these are genuine characters you care about - I remember you weote a similaer thing about Hostel - Derek Richardson was the "sensitive type" that didn't do anything to desever this so you wanted Jay hernandez to kill em all - Now you're saying fuck that - we really care about these girls! So in terms of torture porn the first Hostel is absolute Torture Porn - cos' now the characters were just frat boys - so if you're on purpose not going to make them likeable thenm you've made a film just to be viewed for jacking off purposes - ffw to your fave bit kind of stuff. Fuck I hate this fucking fuilm, fuck this film!!!

  • June 5, 2007, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Fuck off Harry

    by WolfmanNards

    All you did when hostel came out what flaunt and boast about how it was YOUR idea. You might be sitting at the head of the geek table at the cafeteria, but all that means is that you'll be singled out to be beat up by anybody else from any other table in the cafeteria with an itch to scratch.

  • June 5, 2007, 8:04 a.m. CST

    I dont know which I find funnier

    by Fridge

    The whiny bitches who cry about violence in movies destroying society. The idiots who say people who like violence in FICTIONAL movies need mental help. The cock-sucking 12 year olds who cry about Harry selling out to Hollywood. The still-in-puberty-teenagers who see movies like Hostel because some anorexic wannabe actress slut flashes her tits for three seconds. Or the little pussies who scream about how much they hate "Torture Porn" but love horror movies. Really, it's hard to pick which one is more funny and, in the end, sad.

  • June 5, 2007, 8:04 a.m. CST


    by ProfGriffin

    Looks like Eli has sense of humor about his 'position' and obviously doesn't think about his films too seriously. Perhaps we should do the same. Incredible Torture Show anyone? Seamus made that fun...

  • June 5, 2007, 8:19 a.m. CST

    What. The. Fuck. ??????

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Is this supposed to be funny? Or cool? Or interesting?<p>Well, it's neither. Why should anyone want to see a friggin nobody (aka director-wannabe) getting whipped by butt-ugly "females"?

  • June 5, 2007, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Warped Logic

    by Chilli815

    Going on stage to parody the annoyance of the fanbase, yet not stopping to wonder whether they have a valid point.

  • June 5, 2007, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Kill your own people!

    by Stalin vs Predator

    You idiots! You did not make a theatrical movie, so obviously you're not qualified to recognize a worthless film when you see one! Just as you cannot judge whether it's wrong to murder or rape someone, because you haven't done that! (I wish I didn't need to say "sarcastic" now, but since there actually are some supporters of roth around here, I'd like to prevent them from screaming "fuck yeah! datz right!" after reading the above)

  • June 5, 2007, 9:22 a.m. CST

    I won't see Hostel or its sequel, but

    by Movietool

    that doesn't mean I have anything against Eli Roth. I just don't like realistic depictions of torture. It makes me feel like shit for days when I see something like that. "Audition" had me in a funk for a week. Still, I liked "Cabin Fever" and think Roth is a pretty talented guy. I hope someday he broadens into some other genre films, like fantasy or sci-fi. There aren't enough talented people doing genre work nowadays.

  • June 5, 2007, 9:24 a.m. CST

    What's that supposed to be? Logic?

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Why should only people who made a theatrical movie be capable of identifying crap as crap?<p>That's not the dumbest thing I ever heard but it comes pretty close.

  • June 5, 2007, 9:25 a.m. CST

    I see,

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    it's supposed to be sarcasm.<p>funny

  • June 5, 2007, 9:54 a.m. CST

    I loved Hostel 2

    by wowsah156

    I loved hostel 2. From the subtle nod to the original "The Wicker Man" through to the idea of a whole village corrupted by the muderous desires of rich business people hostel 2 works on so many levels. I did not see the last 10 mins of the movie coming. What i like about the concept behnd the Roth movies is that they dont discriminate in who falls victim. I still feel though they could have made it more bleak. The sub plot with kids i found really disturbing. When they do part three maybe we will find out about the couple who run the hostel and why they do it.

  • June 5, 2007, 10:07 a.m. CST

    You Just Blew My Mind

    by Birdys Piano Teacher

    I wish I loved what my friends did as much as you do.

  • June 5, 2007, 12:03 p.m. CST

    let's see...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    If I had a website that covered movies; and there was a new one coming out that I was really interested in, I'm sure I'd give it wall to wall coverage. <p> Sure it's obnoxious, or as regularfacetoht said, "the middle finger in word form." But it's no less obnoxious than some of the posts put up by TB'ers over the years. <p> I'll bet the obnoxiousness score is actually pretty even between AICN and the TB'ers. Which can only mean that things are probably going to get worse before they get better. <p> So... Quint, Massawyrm, Harry, stop lapping at the Eli Roth trough! Enough with the Hostel & Hostel 2 threads! ...Take my wife, please! <p> There, I said it. That ought to be good for atleast a couple of more Hostel threads. After all... we gotta keep the balance...

  • June 5, 2007, 1:25 p.m. CST

    harry, i'm dissapointed,

    by billyhitchcock

    i at least thought you'd have a go at responding to that talkback

  • June 5, 2007, 1:40 p.m. CST

    This site has become a fucking joke

    by Moa Kaka

    Anyone over 12 years old is too old to find anything here amusing or entertaining. Unless they are sociopaths. You know what? Just stop doing this site already. Get a real job. Leave the internet movie news to people who can do it better.

  • June 5, 2007, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Feking hell...

    by loafroaster I feel embarassed for Eli Roth.

  • June 5, 2007, 2:39 p.m. CST


    by CQuest

    and fuck you too harry. eat a dick bitch.

  • June 5, 2007, 2:40 p.m. CST


    by pikagreg

    four articles about this movie on the front this the only movie playing this summer?

  • June 5, 2007, 2:55 p.m. CST

    AICN is no longer a relevant website

    by Particularly Hard Vato

    In fact, IGN has more scoops and film info then you guys get. I read it for the perspective, for the attitute, and for that occasionally scoop that is just cool. No more. The Eli Roth dick sucking and the completely uneducated HDDVD arguments have clinched it for me. You sell ad impressions- and youa re seriously narrowing your audience with this crap. BTW- I support HDDVD over bluray- and you didn't even make the real arguments in your article. The site has become irrevelant.

  • June 5, 2007, 3:03 p.m. CST

    just watched it with the sound down and it turned me on

    by future help


  • June 5, 2007, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Yeah, enough already!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    No more friggin Hostel 2 / Eli "whip me hard" Roth coverage. Especially when there's only crap like this in the "news". It sure as hell aint no cool news.

  • June 5, 2007, 3:26 p.m. CST

    its kind of sweet though

    by dieninamyers

    Eli Roth and Harry holding hands and looking at everyone that reads the site and saying "fuck you in your ass if you dont like Hostel 2". im glad i just signed up when i did.

  • June 5, 2007, 3:44 p.m. CST

    You guys have got to be kidding me...

    by FilmZ0mbie

    Excessive scenes of ultra-violence detract from a film being good? Your right, Clockwork Orange, Saving Private Ryan and Dawn of the Dead were all shit. Anyways, enough of the sarcasm. Is Hostel up to par with the films mentioned above? No. But to say that Hostel is completely devoid of sub-text that isn't enriched by scenes of excessive violence much like those films above were is really short sided. If you don't like it, then you don't like it... but you Puritans need to chill out on the "Torture Porn" angle. It's okay guys, the envelope being pushed shouldn't make you guys feel uncomfortable, it enriches and evolves the medium, yay for us.

  • June 5, 2007, 3:51 p.m. CST

    "Cultish trash sets new low standards for brutality."

    by FilmZ0mbie

    Excerpt of a review in 1974 for "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre." Huh... this kind of short sidedness sounds familiar...

  • June 5, 2007, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Bah! Fucking shill!!!

    by Yack Backer

    Hehehe. Seriously, though, Harry you're a whore and a pimp simultaneously. Keep on keepin' on...

  • June 5, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    I can't believe some of you guys...

    by pdennett316

    You guys really are something else..."this film sucks, so Roth's a hack, blah blah blah". Shut the fuck up! His films are nicely shot, well paced, different to anything else out there, and rely almost entirely on practical effects rather than soulless cgi. He is leagues beyond the likes of Boll. Coppola made Jack, does that make him talentless? Course it fucking doesn't. As for the torture porn stuff, there are far worse movies out there. There have been many more movies that are far more graphic, and few are necessary to "further the plot" - since when did you assholes who worship Star Wars give a shit about a great plot? Basically you people jump all over anyone you perceive as selling out, or what normal people call, acheiving success. If his films were not doing so well you'd be rooting for the guy. Oh, and a final word for all those who once again start vilifying Harry and the site - change the fucking record and stop coming here. Would you keep eating at a restaurant that had shitty food? Then why come back? I come back because i like the style of writing and the talkbacks are usually good for debates. Except when they're filled with jumped up Ebert-wannabees who refuse to accept an opinion other than their own, and lash out at those who dare differ, hmmm, like this one. All those who proclaim this movie as sick, yet have enjoyed other horrors, is it cool to be a hypocrite?

  • June 5, 2007, 5:25 p.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    Coppola made Jack AFTER he'd made the Godfather. When Eli roth has made a film as important and exceptional as The Godfather, THE your point will be valid. It basically hangs on him proving you right in the future.<P> And if you don't get why HOSTEL has no redeeming features but SAVING PRIVATE RYAN does, you're definitely not smart enough to keep contributing here. Glad you enjoy the flicks - but at least try to understand what the Roth-haters' argument is before bashing it, eh?<P> Oh, and FUCK HOSTEL!!!<P> Yeah...

  • June 5, 2007, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Passion of the Christ

    by spud mcspud

    Was a shit movie because it relied on prior knowledge of the subject matter to fully empathise with the plight of the lead character. Yes, Jesus was brutally tortured and then murdered. But so were thousands of others condemned by the Romans. To make that movie great, we needed to understand why Jesus was special, why he deserved our symapthy and pity for what he was enduring. What did we get? Very few shitty flashbacks, one of which was a clumsy attempt at some very misjudged humour. Jesus invented chairs and tables with legs? Ha ha ha!!! Back to the flogging...<P> As Life of Christ movies go, that was the most pointless and unpleasant that I've ever seen. And it utterly missed the point. Case closed.<P> FUCK MEL!!!

  • June 5, 2007, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Hmm, I wonder why, when Uwe Boll does something like

    by JackPumpkinhead

    that (the boxing), he gets called a worthless moron doing a lame publicity stunt (which, of course, is true) - but when Eli Roth does something very similar, it's "cute" and "daring" and "funny"...

  • June 5, 2007, 5:35 p.m. CST


    by loafroaster

    "Coppola made Jack, does that make him talentless?" He also made The Godfather and Apocalypse Now, amongst others. What has Eli got to his name, huh? And filmzombie, PLEASE don't tell me you mentioned Hostel and A Clockwork Orange in the same breath. PLEASE!

  • June 5, 2007, 5:51 p.m. CST


    by bluemcpoo

    "I did not see the last 10 minutes of that movie coming." That's because it made ZERO SENSE for that character to turn. That doesn't qualify as a twist. There was no explanation why he was such a pussy earlier in the movie. The only reason is to throw in a twist, and it completely ignored any logical sense of character development.

  • June 5, 2007, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Eli Roth has chose HD DVD... Here's Why:

    by polyh3dron

    "Because I'm gonna film your reaction when you find out you can't buy films from 5 of the 8 major film studios for it... EXTREEM TORTURE PORN, FUCK YEAAAHH"

  • June 5, 2007, 6:06 p.m. CST

    loafroaster has a point...

    by spud mcspud

    A Clockwork Orange is a searing, uncompromising, fiercely intelligent and unflinching view of violence and the consequences of violence, which segues effortlessly into an intelligent discussion of whether fighting fire with fire in such a situation in society acutally makes society as implcitly violent in said situation as the psychopath they are "saving".<P> HOSTEL is a movie made for sickos to get hard/cheer/emulate/froth at the mouth over.<P> Still waiting for the definitive reason why watching a bunch of expertly designed and executed (sic) torture and death scenes, hung together by ropey character motivations and poor scripting, is a valid entry into the sacred annals of our shared favourite artform, the movies. Anyone?<P> Sack up and admit that if you enjoy these films, on some level, you are sick. Talk catharsis - that's a whole other, more interesting argument. But these movies are sick shit for sick minds. And it doesn't make me a cornholing pussy for having this view. For fuck's sake, formulate a proper defence for this shit. If you can.

  • June 5, 2007, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Yo Spud

    by pdennett316

    When the fuck did I mention Saving Private Ryan? How can you compare a WW2 flick with a tale of sadistic business men killing some American kids? You can't, and who the fuck was trying to? You question MY intelligence? Are you senile? Finally, again, YOU say that Hostel has no redeeming features. That is YOUR opinion, and adding in the Private Ryan comparison in order to belittle my opinion was a neat trick. It's just a pity I never mentioned them both in comparison or you may have had a point. Never mind, nice try eh? Though you were right about the Coppola comparison, how about Sam Raimi and Spiderman 3 then.

  • June 5, 2007, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Spud again..

    by pdennett316

    "HOSTEL is a movie made for sickos to get hard/cheer/emulate/froth at the mouth over" Ironic that you talk of Hostel as a movie to emulate, yet Clockwork Orange was accused of influencing a real life murder itself. Again, you say people are sick for watching this movie. What about any other horror movie? Why are they not all tarred with your brush of ignorance. Romero's zombie titles, Friday 13th, Halloween, Nightmare on Elm Street, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Scream, Hellraiser, plus any number of other titles to numerous to mention. Why do people watch these films? To see people bumped off, get scared, and leave satisfied they are safe. Final Destination's only reason to exist is to watch people die in inventive ways. Is this film sick? No more so than any other horror title.

  • June 5, 2007, 6:31 p.m. CST

    HOSTEL: PART 2 is vastly superior to the first HOSTEL

    by Revol

    Bollocks. Utter, utter bollocks. The violence is dull compared to the first film. The information on the workings of the organisation is badly done. The lead-in to the action is too long and uneventful. Eli talked about how the cock-chop thing was gonna be something so special. Well, I'm sorry but Hard Candys 'castration' scene was 100 times harder to watch. Cannibal Holocausts cock tear was better than this too. This could have been a great step-up from the first movie. It wasn't. And yes, I liked the 1st one too.

  • June 5, 2007, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Oh and...

    by Revol

    Hostel has a good idea behind it, a very sinister, horific plan. Haters are talking rubbish if they deny that. Unfortunatley, Eli isn't good enough to realise it in film.

  • June 5, 2007, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Pdennett - A few explanations:

    by spud mcspud

    Didn't mean to imply you mentioned Saving Private Ryan - I assumed you read all of these (admittedly very numerous) posts; that movie's come up many times as an example of when sickening gore and true horror has been used in a socially responsible and morally defensible way. Ryan isn't easy to watch: nor should it be. The purpose of the movie is to show that such acts should never, ever happen again. I think that movie succeeds brilliantly. Didn't mean it to try to belittle you: sorry if it camer off that way.<P> My problem in HOSTEL is: what's enjoyable about watching a movie like that, and what's the REAL message in a movie like that? Assuming that most horror movie fans are smart enough to know which point of view a movie is coming from (and I think most are), look at the movies you mentioned. CLOCKWORK ORANGE was very neutral - although you saw it all from Alex's point of view, and his voiceover was very persuasive, there was enough distance from his actions in that film to allow us to make our own judgments on whether or not it's right that he does what he does. When the copycat murders happened here in the UK, Kubrick was so horrified that anyone could has misunderstood his movie to that level that he voluntarily had it banned, which was only rescinded after his death. I'm wondering if Eli Roth, upon hearing of a murder based upon either of the Hostel movies, would be sickened by the thought that someone could has misunderstood his movie to that degree, or would just think "Cool! Exposure!". I'd like to think he'd think the former, but nothing I've read in print about the guy convinces me.<P> You have a sort of point about the FINAL DESTINATION movies: the point of them are the deaths. But they are obviously fantasy deaths: spooky shadows signifying a force of Death, winding across the screen, causing deaths so convoluted that they are way beyond the realms of coincidence... you'd never mistake them as being something that could actually happen. You are removed from the reality of the piece, as it seems so unreal. HOSTEL, on the other hand, plays its torture scenes like a snuff movie. They look, and feel, real. What enjoyment do you get from them? Is it REALLY just to marvel at the technological wonders Eli has wrought with the SFX team? Or are you actually wondering how it feels to plunge in that knife, or drill that shin? <P> You're right in the mian with the other movies: people watch them to get scared, see people die, and feel safe. The films that cause sickos to sit up and take notice (and notes) are the ones that are too realistic: stuff like HOSTEL. Sure you can argue that the first movie is a "you get what you give" morality tale: the boys want to fuck European girls then discard them, so the businessmen want to kill them then discard them. Fine. But it wasn't put across in anything approaching an artistic way: it was obviously a "there's the motivation, get it out the way quick, now focus on the lovingly lovely kills". Watch Eli's "Thanksgiving" trailer. There's no investment in it: the murders don't feel real. Nor do they in any of the slasher movies you mentioned: we're talking supernatural bogeymen here (Hellraiser, Freddy Krueger, Hallowe'en). where's the reality in that?<P> And if the point IS the reality of the movie, then I ask you again: why do you enjoy these movies? Really? Revol: you have a point. In the hands of a Carpenter, a Kubrick, even a Tarantino (who, talkbackers keep on fucking forgetting, CUT AWAY FROM THE COP'S EAR WHEN IT WAS CUT, GODDAMMIT!!!) could have been an awesome, chilling movie, which scared the hell out of you, but didn't feel like it wanted to wallow in the deaths - the concept was enough. Eli Roth seems to want to hide behind the concept, when really he seems to be almost admitting (reading between the lines) to getting some sort of thrill out of seeing people killed realistically in his movie. I wonder... how much real life snuff footage has Eli seen, and did he enjoy it??? That would tell us A LOT about htis man's motivations with the HOSTEL movies.<P> More than fucking around with a bunch of S&M swampdonkeys on stage, anyway.<P> And Harry? Fast losing respect for you with this shit, man.

  • June 5, 2007, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Sam Raimi and Spiderman 3

    by spud mcspud

    Let's face it, pdennett, nothing Sam ever makes will be the equal of that amazingly imaginative first movie, THE EVIL DEAD. Yes, I am aware it's a video nasty. No I don't think it's quite the danger to society that HOSTEL is. Because zombies aren't real, but sadists are.<P> CABIN FEVER was okay, but it's no GODFATHER.

  • June 5, 2007, 8:38 p.m. CST

    I am going to stick a gun in my mouth...

    by Bronx Cheer

    and blow brains out. Quick, Roth, get a camera.

  • June 6, 2007, 2:52 a.m. CST

    I mentioned Saving Private Ryan

    by FilmZ0mbie

    and I totally stand by the comparison. In my mind, while being different in almost every way SPR and Hostel 2 are both using excessively violent imagery to put across an artistic point. Weather you appreciate it or not is your own bag, and more power to you. But saying a movie is devoid of any kind of artistic merit because of the extreme violence in it is just like saying David isn't art because it's a dude standing there with his cock out. And because I know somebody is going to say this: No, I'm not comparing Hostel 2 and Michaelangelo's David in any way other than the fact that they are both pieces of art.

  • June 6, 2007, 2:55 a.m. CST


    by FilmZ0mbie

    I did, because they're both movies with violence in them, get the fuck over yourself.

  • June 6, 2007, 6:15 a.m. CST

    eli roth is a talentless hack

    by THEE Miracleman


  • June 6, 2007, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Posting this in all 7 of the Eli Roth Articles on AIRN

    by tehgreekhammer

    Wow Harry, you are such a little bitch ass, cum dumpster. 7 freakin articles on Eli Roth and his lame wannabee attempts at horror ovies gets 7 articles on this site. But Danny Boyles 28 weeks later film gets like one or two? (ps I know Boyle didnt direct Weeks but u know what i mean) Don Murphy was right about you all along. You really are a worthless turd. I cant believe I actually wasted time going over there to defend you and this site, not too long ago. What a waste of my fucking time. Defending a loser fucktard with huge titties, who does absolutely nothing at all except shit on his ass eating breakfast nachos @ 1pm. I cant imagine the horrible trainwreck of a life you would be living if this site hadnt taken off in popularity. Can you imagine what life for you would have been like if you needed to rely on an actual skill or creativity? Maybe you could have turned into a video store clerk or maybe a movie theater employee working for minimum wage? Thats about it though. I hope you say a little prayer at night for your tiny bit of good fortune in an otherwise pitiful life. I guess the only way you get to sleep at night is thinking about your 7000 myspace friends after furiously masturbating to some obscure german horror movie thats only available on Betamax while looking at your naked picture of Eli that Im sure is in a folder on your desktop. Don Murphy was right about you Harry. And you know what? Ban me if that makes you feel any better. Because i wont take the time out of my life here in NY to come back to this p.o.s. and create yet another screen name. good day whore.

  • June 6, 2007, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Hostel 1 was a 10 but Hostel 2 is a 30, says Harry!

    by BrowncoatJedi

    Harry, how can you love Hostel 1 but then say Hostel 2 is "vastly superior?" Wouldn't that make Hostel 2 the best movie in the history of movies? Your scale seems out of whack.

  • June 6, 2007, 1:36 p.m. CST

    That pic sazs 10,000 words

    by redfist

    If you need further proof that Roth as problems... watch the vid, and Ministry Rulz

  • June 6, 2007, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Haters threaten to leave AICN? PLEASE DO, FUCK OFF

    by Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa

    You Twats, I hope your priest sprays diarrhea all over your ugly fucking disgusting pimply faces you stupid cunts, then i hope the world goes to war and you're all fucked nuked 50 times over, please die.. and threatening to leave the site? DO IT YOU CUNTS, stop ruining talkbacks with your FUCKING DRIBBLE, it hurts my EYES to see your stupid SHIT. SOMEONE NEEDS TO TAKE A DUMP IN YOUR MOUTHS AND SHOVE IT DOWN YOUR THROAT WITH A FAT COCK, LIKE THE ONE IN THIS STORY. DON'T LIKE IT? TOUGH, GO CRY YOURSELF TO SLEEP YOU CUNTS

  • June 6, 2007, 11:46 p.m. CST


    by Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa


  • June 6, 2007, 11:46 p.m. CST

    Calling All Arm-chair Filmmakers / Social Commentators.

    by Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa

    To the Arm-chair Filmmakers, I take a dump on your chair so when you try to sit in it and act like you fuckin' know anything, you finally smell everything that has been coming out of your herpes-lined mouth. To the Wanna-be social commentators, GO BACK TO CHURCH OR WHATEVER CIRCUS YOU CAME FROM AND DO WHAT YOU DO BEST, PERSECUTE THINGS, STOP TRYING TO ABSTRACT IT INTO ARGUMENTS THAT WILL ONLY HURT YOUR BRAIN.

  • June 6, 2007, 11:46 p.m. CST


    by Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa

    and if you're reading this and want to ARGUE THAT POINT, go RIGHT AHEAD and KEEP REINFORCING IT.

  • June 6, 2007, 11:46 p.m. CST


    by Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa


  • June 7, 2007, 4:30 p.m. CST


    by Bob Dobbs

    you suck, harry.

  • June 7, 2007, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa

    by spud mcspud

    God, you really are a twat, aren't you? Trolling fucking wankrag. Go learn how to constructively contribute to something - other than contributing you hand to your dick every time Paris Stonk-on comes on the net - and maybe you'll be grown-up enough to come talk to the grown ups on this talkback. Okay? Till then, go get pwned by some WoW freak and drink some Mountain Dew. You fucking twat.<P> Sorry, off topic. Roth sucks, so do the Hostel movies. That is all.

  • June 8, 2007, 10:22 p.m. CST


    by jojo-pimp

    just saw Hostel 2...ten times better than the first. The last 2 minutes of the movie alone are worth the price of admission!

  • June 9, 2007, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Rob Zombie's Hostel

    by Dr Gregory House

    Trailer trash in Bumfuck, Kentucky torture people in overalls and buzzcuts.

  • June 9, 2007, 10:49 p.m. CST

    This website is bordering on absurd now.

    by Cotton McKnight

    I just got finished reading a review of that pixar rat movie, which NOBODY I KNOW WANTS TO SEE because... lets face it.. its about a freaking rat making dinner.. and of course Quint, who is hobnobbing with its stars, "loved" it. I mosey on over to this review where I discover that Harry Knowles is friends with Eli Roth (I didn't know that) and yep, he loves Hostel 2. This website simply has outlived its original purpose and is nothing more than a promotional site now. I mean really, how many gifts has Harry and company recieved from running this place, anyway? It's just beyond absurd at this point.

  • June 9, 2007, 10:51 p.m. CST

    that said, I will always thank him for bringing us Sly.

    by Cotton McKnight

    So I guess I can't complain. Guess I just have to steer clear of the obvious and blatant schilling, huh?

  • June 10, 2007, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Eli Roth i am comming for you

    by inthenarrows

    he is seriously one of the worst writer directors of our day . he is glamorized to no end for doing what a 5 year old retarded kid could write . hostel was a joke, hostle 2 is even worse . cabin fever was unique but terrible each film runs on shock value . no story , no proper character development . it is what it is an that is a piece of shit. The future of horror can no be in Eli's hands it needs to be in the hands of the writer/directors of the descent and dog soldiers . Have you all forgotten what horror is and have cashed it in with last minute fx from knb

  • June 10, 2007, 2:45 p.m. CST

    what the hell is wrong with you people?

    by skaul80

    if you don't like harry, don't visit his website. if you don't like eli roth or his films, don't read the articles posted about them. there are better things to do in the world than bitch about other people.

  • June 10, 2007, 3:10 p.m. CST

    this is a protest?

    by skaul80

    what is it that's being protested? all i see hate spewing back and forth.

  • June 10, 2007, 6:57 p.m. CST

    if you think Hostel2 was better than Hostel

    by smackfu

    You're a crackhead. It was immensely inferior. Hostel 1 had a few things going for it that set it apart from other films and made it truly disturbing. 1) the use of guys instead of girls as the victims. Every horror movie I've ever seen used pretty, delicate, squealing teenage girls in peril. Which is great, but if you've been watching horror movies all your life, the stereotypical horror movie victim girls putting their hands to their face like McCauley Culkin and letting out a 2 minute long banshee shriek is just...well, cartoonish and ineffective. I mean for christ sakes, I've seen girls make a worse fuss when they see a snake then the girl who's about to get machetted by Jason. It just doesn't really mean anything to see a girl freak out and scream, and it stopped selling the fear about 15 years ago. So this is why Hostel was fresh, it showed *guys* in peril, screaming and begging like little girls. And THAT sold it and made it more disturbing. To see the tough guy vomiting at the realization he's about to get killed with a chainsaw. 2) The violence wasn't "theatrical", it was sterile, real, and unsettling. 3) the way the 'club' was handled. How the concept that this was a place where rich people pay to kill transients, (which is very likely really occuring in a few places, though probably not in such an organized 'factory' type setting) was never really spoken out loud, you just kind of figured out what was going on at a certain point of the movie. And that sudden realization instantly made it a whole new movie. Whereas in Hostel 2, all that was subtext in Hostel 1 is now delivered to the viewer in clumsy exposition. Hostel 2 is in essence a remake of Hostel 1, whereby all the things that were good about Hostel 1 have been 'americanized', ie dumbed down and had every shred of care and artfulness removed from them.

  • June 10, 2007, 11:10 p.m. CST

    harry is biased!

    by BurgerKing

    He's friends with Eli, so he CANT give Hostel 2 a bad review. Don't lie Harry, we all know that you hated it, because you have to be a product of several generations of inbreeding to think that was a good movie. The first movie had potential, almost lived up to it, Eli is jerking to himself with this one. So far, the only good thing the guy has done is the Thanksgiving trailer, and that was like 2 minutes long. Hmmmmmmm.

  • June 17, 2007, 6:58 p.m. CST


    by The Dum Guy

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