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A different FANTASTIC FOUR spot that ends... badly...

Hey folks, Harry here... There's a ton of FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER spots out there - basically all of them are about 5% different in terms of footage and what they show - staying in the badass parameters of SILVER SURFER footage. Well, Fox just released a new TV spot that shows the really awful side of the last film, but in this film... ie... really bad humor. Thing saying "My Bad" somehow grates on me. That said - this is the very first spot that doesn't work for me, so they're doing pretty damn good so far. Check it out...






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  • May 30, 2007, 9:31 a.m. CST

    First?

    by johnnykool

    Meh

  • May 30, 2007, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Flames on Optimus = Cloudactus = Thing's "My bad"

    by Err

    it's true

  • May 30, 2007, 9:33 a.m. CST

    "first!"

    by feckdrinkarse

    you stupid cunts

  • May 30, 2007, 9:33 a.m. CST

    I gotta say

    by johnnykool

    Why should I go see this movie? If I want excitement and explosions I'll watch Die Hard or Platoon. I want a decent plot, I want shit like "My bad" to go away, I want decent acting. <p>Is it just me or does Alba look like a reject from the movie "White Chicks" in this flick? It's like they bleached her skin, hair, and popped in the bluest contacts available. <p>Harry, will you cuddle me?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:33 a.m. CST

    2nd

    by BaronMori

    ... and this movie will blow ...

  • May 30, 2007, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Okay, it was wrong to put it in the trailer...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...but I think it's funny. (Maybe because I saw a specific Episode from the Venture Bros. yesterday?)

  • May 30, 2007, 9:37 a.m. CST

    "My bad"?

    by jimmy_009

    Yeah that might have been funny a decade ago, which is where the F4 films feel like they belong.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Galactus as a cloud...

    by Trikane

    What a waste of a villian. This franchise is making a habit of taking the greatest Marvel villians and totally fucking them up. First it was the Nip n Tuck DOOM, now a cloud Galactus. So very retarded.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Room for potential

    by liljuniorbrown

    I think with this cast they could do so much better. Sorry Tim Story but you should stick to the whole comedy set and leave the action adventure to someone else. I didn't want to see Batman and Robin ice skating, or Batman pulling out a "Bat-express" credit card and I don't want slapstick comedy in the F4.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:40 a.m. CST

    well i found it funny

    by Mr_X

    should really stop watching these commercials, i'm seeing most of the movie here.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Just relax, this a a superhero movie for kids

    by CuervoJones

    What do you expect, dark and adult stuff?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:42 a.m. CST

    My Bad!

    by lost.rules

    Really, what the hell are people expecting from this movie? Have any of you seen the first one?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:43 a.m. CST

    my bad is like so 17 years ago

    by Deus Vult

    I still remember a senior saying "my bad" in algebra 2 when I was a sophomore and thinking "what an idiot." as I sit hear and watch the thing say it I once again think to myself "what an idiot."<p>Now Harry--how is it that you're planning a wedding and yet sleeping till 9am on a sunny summer austin morning? shouldn't you be on the lake or doing it by now?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:47 a.m. CST

    actually heading down to Barton Springs for a swim

    by HEADGEEK

    but that's between me and my sweetie - and I guess you talkbackers... my bad.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:50 a.m. CST

    liljuniorbrown

    by YakMalla

    "I don't want slapstick comedy in the F4." Obviously not a fan of the silver age books. Not everything must be dark to be cool.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Seriously

    by Virtual Satyr

    You're complaining about a character saying "My bad" in a movie where one character's catchphrase is "Flame on"?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:52 a.m. CST

    I never saw the first one but...

    by Shermdawg

    ...is Thing supposed to resemble one of those orange marshmallow peanuts?<br><br>Jeez Louise, give him some cg touch up's or sumthin.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:54 a.m. CST

    This movie BLOWS!!!!!!!!!!

    by RobMota

    If the first sucked what makes anyone think this one is going to be better??

  • May 30, 2007, 9:56 a.m. CST

    "Maybe I should take a swim," I thought...

    by uss cygnus

    Someone dropped some adrenochrome before putting that spot together. What was that? FF for retards? Ol ben sounded like he was a palsy or something....

  • May 30, 2007, 9:57 a.m. CST

    That was funny as fuck

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    You are off your rocker, Mr Cool News. It's not bad humour, it's stupid humour - and that is the best kind, especially when it's coming from a man made out of stones (who has friend made out of fire).<p>This film is going to be great. Maybe even as good as the first one.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:01 a.m. CST

    What?

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Did someone just say Tim Story should go back to making comedies? These films ARE comedies!<p>Seriously, we're up to the second film now and people are still upset that Fantastic Four isn't all badass and cool and, ugh, 'dark'?<p>This town needs an enema!

  • May 30, 2007, 10:04 a.m. CST

    where did the links page go?

    by murawsky

    where did the links page go?

  • May 30, 2007, 10:07 a.m. CST

    FF

    by Chilli815

    Everyone acts like the old Stan Lee ones are anything other than a nostalgic throwback to an era where everything else was shit and Marvel was okay. These comics DON'T stand the test of time. So please, criticise FF for being a bad film (to which I'll disagree), but don't quote me some comic from 30yrs ago that has a goofier level of humour and characterisation.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:07 a.m. CST

    i laughed ...... so its good enough for me

    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    it cant be worse than spiderman 3

  • May 30, 2007, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Oh god its the Original TMNT movies again...

    by samuraidino

    Maybe galactus will turn into vanilla ice after hes done being a cloud?

  • May 30, 2007, 10:08 a.m. CST

    "It's Clobberin' Time!"

    by bentmywookie

    Now THAT was downright Shakespearian! Seriously, guys....

  • May 30, 2007, 10:10 a.m. CST

    You know what sound effect the end needed?

    by Anna Valerious

    "Da da da da da da...BOING!"

  • May 30, 2007, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Capri Sun the movie

    by Kloipy

    you can't tell me that he doesn't look like that dude

  • May 30, 2007, 10:13 a.m. CST

    WEAK!

    by Kid Z

    ...Um... is that one dated now, too? Maybe. But "My bad!" definitely is! What else... does Thing get a job as a physical trainer and shout, "I'm gonna pump (hand clap) you up!"? Or maybe Johnny can walk out of the Baxter Building wearing Ray-Bans and a leather jacket, meet a gaggle of female autograph seekers, do a double thumbs-up and exclaim, "'Eyyyy!" Message to Tim Sorry and whatever hack writers are responsible for this thing: If you're going to use catchphrases to appear "hip", at least use catchphrases from THE CURRENT decade!

  • May 30, 2007, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Did you warn the lifeguard?

    by Mister Man

    Just don't do a belly flop. Shady Grove has a lunch crowd.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:16 a.m. CST

    You guys are being stupid.

    by Cory849

    There is nothing wrong with that spot or that joke. Its a good joke actually.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:17 a.m. CST

    This movie looks fun, not "badass and dark".

    by Ringwearer9

    Stop trying to justify the goofy comics you loved as kids with fake "adult" brooding and angst. Fuck that. FF was fun. FF2 looks fun too. "My Bad" is part of the language now, and a kid whose coat brushed my laptop on the subway said "My Bad" as a matter of fact apology. If it "grates" on you it's because you are OLD and unhip, and it's time to get out your walkers.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:19 a.m. CST

    AVE! AVE! AVE SA-TAN-I!

    by Osmosis Jones

    G od, I am SO FUCKING SICK of the Apocalyptic Choir Of Doom in movie advertising (which totally doesn't go with the "light" tone of this particular TV spot).

  • May 30, 2007, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Watch out for that water down in Barton Springs Harry

    by skycrapper

    It's a real weenie shrinker...

  • May 30, 2007, 10:23 a.m. CST

    you know what...

    by Bloo

    I'll see it. I didn't love the first FF movie, but I didn't hate it as much as some here did. Maybe it's only because I have a basic working knowledge of the FF. I'll see this but yeah "my bad"? what genisus script writer came up with that, some 55 year old hermit who thinks it's still cool?

  • May 30, 2007, 10:25 a.m. CST

    At least they didn't say

    by skimn

    "Oh no you didint" and "Snap"..oh wait thats Shreck 3...

  • May 30, 2007, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Charles Nelson Reilly as Galactus

    by Douche Baggins

    too late now.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Humor in the Fantastic Four

    by Alan_Moore

    Since its inception, The World's Greatest Comic Magazine has always had its share of cornball humor. I seem to recall The Thing trying on a Beatle wig in the 60's. I found this tv spot to be funny, and I'm willing to give this movie a chance.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:27 a.m. CST

    My Bad is like mr. Freeze saying Chill out

    by Kloipy

    both should be banned from the vernacular

  • May 30, 2007, 10:29 a.m. CST

    I thought it was funny.

    by Darkman

    For a terrible joke in a preview of a summer movie...seriously, nothing beats "He wants to rear your child." Ke-rist, that's awful!

  • May 30, 2007, 10:30 a.m. CST

    I'll chime in with...

    by zb.brox

    ...I don't think that scene was the funny, but it didn't bother me either. These are light, goofy movies and I have no problem with that. My problem is that the first FF was a light, goofy, *shitty* movie. The fact that they totally raped the character of Doctor Doom (for which, btw, I do not blame the actor) was enough to damn it, but it got worse from there. <p>This movie looks awesome--as long as the Surfer is on screen. When he's not, I remember what the last one was like, and I mourn.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:31 a.m. CST

    great joke for Shrek 3

    by Kloipy

    Donkey turns to Puss "Yo puss, who you think you are? Da Prince of Purrsia?"

  • May 30, 2007, 10:33 a.m. CST

    My bad

    by darrenspool

    This shit just needs to fuck right off. Who wrote that "punchline"? Oh, now I get it! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! It's so funny!

  • May 30, 2007, 10:33 a.m. CST

    No, the music sting they needed was...

    by Kid Z

    ... Wah, wahh, wahh, waaahhhhh! And the Thing costume DOES look like an ambulatory Circus Peanut! Hilarious! They should've made Galactus (Gah Lak Tuss, whatever) end up looking like an humongous Peep!

  • May 30, 2007, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Since this movie is aimed

    by bobster52

    Since this movie is aimed for children, it will have more comedy than action. If they played it too serious it wouldn't work.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:37 a.m. CST

    But it's Thing saying it...and I that's the Thing to me

    by Datascream

    being behind on what people say and all since he's pretty much the oldest person in the Fantastic 4. It seems in character to me. So with that, I don't have much of a problem with it.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:45 a.m. CST

    It's pretty clear that Thing says

    by seagrass

    "That's bad." Turn down the rock music, kiddies.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Dolts

    by Ninja Nerd

    Look it up. And put the crack pipe and 6 pack of Mountain Dew AWAY. Actually, the "my bad" is consistent with how they established the character in the first film; he's NOT hip or cool or in touch with everything. The line is right for the character. And the first movie wasn't that bad.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Oh Crap

    by iGore

    Who cares. That line wasn't as dreadful as you made out.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:48 a.m. CST

    It's funny...if you're a seven year old

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Somewhere, Stan Lee is groaning.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:48 a.m. CST

    FLAME ON, JOHNNY! FLAME ON WITH YOUR BAD SELF!

    by Gwai L0

    What an original choice for music, never heard that in a trailer before. <p>

  • May 30, 2007, 10:49 a.m. CST

    what did you expect?

    by Rupee88

    It will be a fun movie for little kids just like the first ones. For adults with IQs over 110, it will suck.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Harry why.......

    by DARKSELFINSIDE

    ...do you get all bent out of shape over a simple one liner? How in the hell could the Thing saying "my bad" sway you one way or the other about the movie as a whole? It'd be nice if I/we didn't see or here anything else about the movie until it comes out, must we know every Godamn thing? (no pun intended).

  • May 30, 2007, 10:52 a.m. CST

    I actually fractured my spine at Barton Springs in 1997

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    drunk and jumping in from up on a cliff. That was when I first discovered that I was not in fact invincible.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:53 a.m. CST

    slang

    by Silverglade

    I hate it when the characters use contemporary popular slang terms like My bad, I'll holla, owned, or any of them. It dates your movie and makes it look silly a few years later. The only character who is exempt from dating himself when he uses slang of Ash from Evil Dead. "Groovy." Timeless, that.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:53 a.m. CST

    "My Bad"= Roaring laughter from idiots in my theater

    by mrsinister7381

    HAHAHAH! My Bad!! HAHAHAHAHAH. Fucking a. I just saw POTC:AWE and had to listen to the cacophony of moronic suburban chortles after every lame one-liner. Looks like I can look forward to the same from my viewing of FF2. Sweet.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:53 a.m. CST

    cookylamoo, he isn't white

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    he's orange. <p> Harry, that is. He's orange.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Thanks, classic

    by seagrass

    I apparently need to cut out the rock music as well.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Thing sounds like he's got

    by seagrass

    a throat full of Cooty's Rat Semen. I don't recall his voice sounding that froggy in the first film...was it?

  • May 30, 2007, 10:57 a.m. CST

    "My Bad Dialogue"

    by Buzz Maverik

    Well, I'm not going to freak out over a "My bad." I won't judge this film until I see it because I'm intrigued by what they are doing with the Surfer, but...the LAST film was poorly written, with wretched dialogue. It was also poorly made, but we're talking writing here.<p>I have no problem with humor, especially in the FF, and no problem with slapstick. The comics from 30 years ago, actually 40 years ago, hold up fine. And the comics of today are fine, although time will tell how well they hold up.<p>"My bad" is dated. I first heard a cop in his 40s at the time say it about 7 years ago, so you know it'd already been around. But it's not the worst thing about these movies or this dialogue.<p>"I just bought this tux." Again, not the worst line in the world but not good either, and that's what they're previewing as a big laugh. I used to not like the actor, Chris Evans, but I don't think somebody really good like...Leo DiCaprio or Joseph Gordon-Levitt could do anything with that dialogue. A comic book movie could have good dialgoue. It could be funny when it's supposed to be and "serious" when it's supposed to be. Because real life is funny and serious. Know yer fuckin' character, know real life antecedents, and determine what the fuck they would do or say in these insane comic book situations. It's not hard. Forget the tux line. We're waiting for the "Flame on" catchphrase which we had to wait through the whole, terrible first movie to see.<p>All said, I'll see this movie. It shows promise. It seems more visually interesting than the previous flick. I'll even give Cloudactus a shot. But I probably won't be back if there's a number three (unless it is really exceptional) just like I won't be for another Spider-Man movie until there's a new cast and a fresh director (Raimi is a fine director but I think he's sick of Spider-Man, whether he'll admit it or not. Three films with nothing else in between. He might as well be working on a TV series).

  • May 30, 2007, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Ain't *THAT* bad

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    And if that's the worst they've got to offer us (i.e., no emo characters, no extended pointless dance numbers, no "let's-not-fight-no-let's" horseshit) then it's all gravy, baby, 'cause this "thing" ain't looking horrible (which is the best thing that you can say about it after the first one).

  • May 30, 2007, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Looking Forward to "Rise of..." on Late Night UHF

    by Star Trek Apologist

    Sadly, I'll miss seeing Rise of the Silver Surfer on the Silver Screen. See, I went to see Pirates 3 this weekend and am still there in the theater. My best guess is that this film is eight years long, so I should get out just in time to catch FF 2 on my local UHF. DON'T TELL ME HOW IT ENDS!

  • May 30, 2007, 11:01 a.m. CST

    In The Mondoplex 69 Where I Saw The Preview...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...a gaggle of film geek teens rightously mocked the "just bought this tux..." line. Wonder what they'd say about "My bad"?

  • May 30, 2007, 11:01 a.m. CST

    My Bad...I am sure this will suck

    by redfist

    the last hairs off my ass. The first movie was good until someone opened their mouth or had to move the plot along. While all the Surfer shit has been great. I have the feeling that this will staz verz true to the first film and suck. opps I am a hater now....my bad.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Starring Rose O'Donnell as Galactus

    by Itchy

    Tell me you couldn't see that Pig with her parade-float-sized head opening up that yapper and swallowing planets whole. I just can't imagine her shutting up long enough to consume them.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:01 a.m. CST

    My Bad...I am sure this will suck

    by redfist

    the last hairs off my ass. The first movie was good until someone opened their mouth or had to move the plot along. While all the Surfer shit has been great. I have the feeling that this will staz verz true to the first film and suck. opps I am a hater now....my bad.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Peyton Reed would have made it smart and light

    by BrowncoatJedi

    Tim Story is just a hack. FF1 and 2 are examples of how NOT to make a superhero film.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:05 a.m. CST

    ff

    by huggerorange

    this is started to have alot of cheesy humor in the trailers...hopefully it isnt so when it comes to the movie. THis is only two weeks away, i keep forgeting

  • May 30, 2007, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Everyone's Bad

    by DeadPanWalking

    One thing all of the "My Bad" bashers are ignoring is the fact that maybe the Thing uses an outdated colloquialism to establish character. Would the Thing use the hippest, hottest new street vernacular that all the coolest 10-year-olds are currently using? Or, would he use what an average 40-year-old guy who hasn't really kept up with current slang would use? Huh? Which one? Ha! I thought so! Was the Thing all that with-it in the comics? Was he dating Lindsey Lohan? Did he own nighclubs? Was he a surf champion DJ? Did he base jump into shallow pools of Mountain Dew? I think not. If the writer's smart, he or she or they will put in lines where Johnny (who's character indicates that he WOULD keep up with current slang) makes fun of the Thing's usage.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Dear seagrass

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    Turn up your hearing aid. The Thing says "that's bad" when the vehicle is flying at him. He says "my bad" when Reed pops out of the wall.<br><br>Ohgodohgodohgod, please let this script's preoccupation with the word BAD be ONLY a coincidence. Please!<br><br>I will say this: while Story and Frost bit ass with the cheesiness and "lightness" of the first FF movie, they SEEM to be getting the flavor of the comics here. Having just reread several early issues (1-74, thank you FF CD) and FF: Heroes Reborn 1-12 and Ultimate FF, these scenes in the trailers DEFINITELY capture the combination of nuttiness and sci-fi and world-threatening danger of the books. Additionally, having read the interview with Don Payne, it seems that they're trying to fix the problems with the first one while retaining the essence of the World's Greatest Comic Book.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Harry is going swimming?

    by jrbarker

    That is scary. And this movie looks like shit.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Dear Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    by seagrass

    Thanks. By the way, you might want to check the prescription for your glasses, as classicgamenerd corrected me already, 20 MINUTES AGO, and I thanked him in turn.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:15 a.m. CST

    "My Bad" is nothing compared to CLOUDACTUS

    by mrsinister7381

    You know what, fuck "My bad". I'm sick of living in denial, telling myself that FF2 looks good, la la la, another fun Marvel movie....NO! Fucking Galactus is a CLOUD. Fuck you Tim Story. Fuck you hard. Who is the executive who said "Hey, the director of Barbershop will be great for the Fantastic Four!"? WHO?!?!

  • May 30, 2007, 11:15 a.m. CST

    MY BAD replaced by OH NO YOU DINT!

    by Abin Sur

    Shit, Tim Story, don't you watch the CW?

  • May 30, 2007, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Will do, seagrass

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    And don't talk with your mouth full. You know your dad hates that.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Does Jessica Alba get naked?

    by lost.rules

    That's all I want to know.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Damn, I KNOW I'm stepping in it here, but...

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    Anybody got any suggestions on how to do Galactus that aren't laughable on the big screen? I mean, think of tiny people and humanoid giants in, say, Army of Darkness AND POTC:AWE. Both played for laughs, right? So it seems to me that a giant, purple-garbed, helmet wearing planet eater (hee hee hee, "purple helmet"), would be laughable. Am I ALONE in this? I LOVE the FF and Doc Doom got the royal assfucking as a character in the last one, but you CANNOT introduce a giant, purple-garbed, helmet wearing humanoid planet eater and expect to NOT be laughed at. A LOT! So that out of the way, how do you do the Devourer of Worlds justice, capturing his sense of menace and otherworldliness, his OTHER-ness? I'm really curious. I don't LOVE the CLOUD-ACTUS, but I'm not TOTALLY hating it either. C'mon, somebody help me out here with the suggestions for big screen Galactus in case I missed 'em elsewhere.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:25 a.m. CST

    It's Always Silly To Say What Fictional Characters....

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...would and would not do. I mean, Ben Grimm is supposed to be a kick ass military pilot and astronaut. Would a guy like that say, "My bad?" He'd probably say, "Fuck that shit" or something if the cameras weren't on him. I don't really want the Thing to swear, but I'd really like all the characters to have good, crisp, funny dialogue. Or appropriate silence when necessary.<p>I don't think the filmmakers were trying to make a character statement. I think they are probably not too hip themselves but mostly that there are some bad writers involved and bad filmmaking decisions. Again, not the worst, not even bad enough to keep me away from the movie.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Really.. are they really doing this...

    by Freefinger

    I mean, the first movie was criticized enough, and while I stood by it saying that it was a fair try-out at the FF4, this second one is not coming along very good with this clip.. I liked the Surfer grabbing a hold of Johnny and all, but this "Where's Reed?", and "My bad!" is simply.. Bad... <P>I thought they would try to get thing right but after Galactus was replaced by a giant cloud, and now this clip is looking like they're going to the same grave as the Schumacker's Batman movies.<P>I can't see them saving this one from themselves. Why doesn't Hollywood get that we want a good storyline without being all dumbass?<p>I'm out, will wait 'till DVD comes out.. Not worth dishing out the money for another "Superman Returns" kinda movie...

  • May 30, 2007, 11:30 a.m. CST

    "My bad" = what Tim Story will say when asked about FF2

    by amrisharmpit

    Indeed, it is his bad.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Blech

    by Magnum Opus

    This movie will be almost (but not quite) as bad as the Pirates movies.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Well, Vitium...

    by Buzz Maverik

    I'm not sure that a good special effects crew, with good designers based on the brilliant graphic art in the comics, couldn't have done a facsimile of Galactus as we've known him.<p>How do we know it'd look stupid? Because THEY tell us? They think this dialogue is acceptable, remember? They didn't give the FF anything interesting to do during 90% of the first film.<p>I'm very much against playing it safe with fantasy concepts. Get a director strong on visuals, get great designers and CGI people, and get a good writer. Use the source material. Galactus isn't any stupider than, well let's see, the Thing, the Torch, Mr. Fantastic, Dr. Doom or the Silver Surfer (a hot chick turning invisible isn't a risky move).<p>The producers and directors need imagination and courage. Terry Gilliam could give us a cool giant alien. Tim Burton could do it. James Cameron. Ridley Scott. Steven Spielberg. Hell, George Lucas could make it great. And why are these guys great and the Tim Storys and Bryan Singers are just stuffing their resumes? Because, at some point, at least they fucking tried. At least they took a risk.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:39 a.m. CST

    One Movie Shouldn't Be A Try Out For Another...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...or if it is, we should get to see it for free and pay for the real movie when they've proven they can do it.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Too Childish!!!!!!!! Too Campy!!!!!!!!!

    by ludmir88

    not in my list this summer!!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 30, 2007, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Galactus sucks - my bad

    by spud mcspud

    From what I've heard, if Galactus is actually a cloud, instead of a badass planet-eating megalomaniac demi-god (which would be with the tone of this idiotic yet shamelessly enjoyable franchise) and it ends the way I've heard it does (relax, no spoilers herein) then the Thing saying "my bad" is the very least of this movie's problems.<P> Now where's the Marvel Zombies movie? FF3 should start where the FF find the portal into the Marvel Zombie universe. That's dark and grown-up for you, kiddies. And Jessica Alba gets to eat herself. Yeesh...

  • May 30, 2007, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Craptastic Four rides again!

    by finky089

    I knew this one would be no better, Surfer be damned!

  • May 30, 2007, 11:49 a.m. CST

    TOA

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    Turd On Arrival

  • May 30, 2007, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Average 1.5 Stars, $40M opening weekend

    by Aquatarkusman

    See what happens when enough jackasses make a shitty first movie barely turn a profit? YOU GET ANOTHER.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:54 a.m. CST

    But it's not a problem if OPTIMUS PRIME says it?

    by JusticeSabre

    GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE WITH THAT BULLSHIT.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    by seagrass

    My dad might hate it, but your mom told me that she loves it.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:57 a.m. CST

    The "FLAME ON1!" makes me

    by Kragmose

    Not wanna see this

  • May 30, 2007, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Galactus...

    by Kid Z

    ...or, Gah-Lak-Tuss (sounds like my cat hacking up another hairball) isn't just a cloud... he/it's a cloud that casts a classic Galactus helmet-shaped shadow! The designers were sooooo clever, weren't they?

  • May 30, 2007, 12:03 p.m. CST

    No, Buzz, I'd didn't say it was stupid...

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    Because THEY tell us. I personally think that it would look foolish and provided two recent examples (AoD and POTC:AWE) in which human(oids) interacting with giant(oids?) is played for laughs.<br><br>You seem to imply that it could work with a strong visual director and proceed to name a few, Gilliam, Burton, Cameron, Scott, Spielberg, and Lucas, who you think could pull it off. But I can't think of any examples in their work (okay, maybe Gilliam is exempted because he does the whacky fantasy stuff with Munchausen) in which giant humanoids interact with people for fear-inducing (not fantasy-tripping) effect. So you think that they could pull it off, but I think that they wouldn't even try it. Why? 'Cause you've already stretched (pun intended) the limits of credulity with the FF and the Surfer and Doom. Now throw in a GIANT DUDE IN A PURPLE HELMET ("oh, but, audience, we just SEE him that way 'cause he's beyond our ability to understand" - Marvel's definition of Galactus, btw) and I think it just gets too ludicrous. Again, you've offered no advice just that you think it CAN be done by better directors and used the opportunity to bash the "non-visual" Tim Story. As much as YOU think it CAN be done by more capable directors, I submit that most of the director's YOU mentioned (Gilliam and Burton excepted) WOULDN'T EVEN TRY. Just my opinion, of course, but it seems that is, at least, TRYING to ground these movies in the real world A LITTLE BIT. I mean, a totally trippym Jack Kirby, balls-to-the-wall FF epic in space flying around giant bodies in crazy looking space ships would ROCK, but me, you, and the Comic Book Geek from The Simpsons would be the only dudes there. Don't believe me? How many went to see a similarly trippy Munchausen (remember the space shit?) back in the day - thirteen, fourteen people?

  • May 30, 2007, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Not...

    by Bruno Diaz

    that big of a deal. it falls a bit flat, but it's not horrible. I liked the original except that I think they really screwed up not giving Dr. Doom a thick Latvirian accent. This one I have hopes for, even if Galactus is a cloud. (Jesus, a cloud?!)

  • May 30, 2007, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Right, because "The Thing" is increadibly smart

    by AlwaysThere

    and not a dumb as a bunch of rocks.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Seagrass...

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    My mom told you that she loves it when you talk with your mouth full? Really? She make you gargle it and then swallow afterwards while she watches?

  • May 30, 2007, 12:08 p.m. CST

    this is fine...

    by jbristow

    FF2 will be fine...but I too dread the appearance of more, "I gotta git me one of those", and, "Nice coat...", lines in the Dark Knight. Please, no. And keep f'ing Mumia out of the next one, too! ("Nice ride!" Oh, thanks you f'ing niggerhead. I was really concerned you might not approve of the Tumbler. Nigger.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Purple Helmet Wearing Devourer of P______

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    Hee hee hee! You fill in the blanks here. The FF is my favorite comic. Always has been. But damn any written description of Galactus that actually includes what he looks like is FUN-NAY!

  • May 30, 2007, 12:13 p.m. CST

    The Fantastic Four movies...

    by kwisatzhaderach

    symptomatic of the fall of western civilisation...

  • May 30, 2007, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Last giant destroyer that comes to mind is...

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    The Sta-Puft marshmallow man! Tell me that we don't get Galactus some Gah-Lak-T-ASS and chill this dude out for a while.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Fox execs to FF fans: "Story directs again...Our bad."

    by SpyGuy

    "We know you wanted a cool FANTASTIC FOUR movie, but we figured we'd rather cater to the lowest common denominator moviegoers that liked CATWOMAN instead. If you want a good superhero movie, go watch THE DARK KNIGHT. In the meantime, we'll just sit here and count this shitload of FF: ROTSS box office money that only cost us a meaningless thing like our very souls."

  • May 30, 2007, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Optimus will say the same line

    by lonecow

    Peter Cullen confirmed himself that after Optimus stomps on Spike's mom's flower bed, he says, "My bad." whats so great about those two words?

  • May 30, 2007, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Fox

    by kwisatzhaderach

    From the studio that brought you Star Wars, Alien, Die Hard to the studio that brought you Alien Vs Predator, Fantastic Four and Live Free or Die Hard.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:19 p.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    Movies, period -- symptomatic of the fall of western civilization...<br><br>Roman citizens had their bread and circuses and we've got the ongoing debate about whether it's appropriate that a giant purple helmeted toga wearing planet eater should or should not be visually portrayed as a cloud.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:19 p.m. CST

    LAME!!

    by FleshMachine

    the first one really sucked...does anyone even care about these awful films?

  • May 30, 2007, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Optimus says "My bad" too.

    by UMAGA

    That should tell ya something.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Time Bandits Giant

    by reddwarfcas

    Seem to remember Gilliam had a giant in Time Bandits that wore a pirate ship for a hat and stepped on a house, killing the residents inside.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Okay, Vitium...

    by Buzz Maverik

    What kind of advice do you want? Technical? And what would you do with the advice if I gave it?<p>I don't think any of us knows what anybody would or wouldn't do.<p>Also, I don't know what would work on screen for sure and if I don't, you definitely don't. You also don't know who would show up for what and neither do I and neither does the film industry.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Yup, totally forgot about the Time Bandits Giant

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    Nice. Wouldn't the FF be cool fighting Galactus with a pirate ship hat (cross-marketing with POTC:AWE, anyone?) who steps on houses as they scurry out of the way, yelling "my bad?" No?

  • May 30, 2007, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Elektra - Daredevil - Hellboy - Spiderman

    by nelwack

    These movies (including FF) are actually close to the comics. Thats why comic fans have been pleased while everyone else is pissed becouse they expect The English Patient. Not I'm not saying they're perfect or that I even like them. I mean, Hellboy was basicly the live action comic, and I fucking hate them BOTH! And Superman Returns? The movie and comic arent even in the same time zone.....sadly.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:26 p.m. CST

    hey harry - you know what grates on me?

    by EasyStrider828

    the fact that you're using iKlipz for videos - what the hell kind of geek are you?

  • May 30, 2007, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Giant Cloud Altert

    by reddwarfcas

    Star Trek The Motion Picture. V'yger hidden inside a giant space cloud. Took the Enterprise so long to actually get to V'yger I fell asleep.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Buzz Maverik

    by kwisatzhaderach

    The film industry knows if they throw money at a crap script and stuff it with cutting-edge (or merely proficient) CG, millions of teens will show up at theatres opening weekend and they'll make a ton of money before anybody has a chance to find out what a piece of crap the actual film is. Hence Spider-Man 3, Pirates of the Carribean 3, Shrek 3, Fantastic Four 2, Transformers etc. The great summer blockbuster has become an endangered species.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    by seagrass

    You tell me. You were there, after all.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Galactus is a fucking CLOUD?

    by nelwack

    Okay, I just read some other posts and.... Galactus is a cloud? How do you guys know this? Are you joking? I hope you are becouse if Galactus is a cloud I'm going to put my balls in the railroad tracks.... I thought it was "Everybody! Freeze!" wasnt it? Batman and Robin is hilarious....

  • May 30, 2007, 12:35 p.m. CST

    THIS YEAR'S LITTLE MISS SHREK THE THIRD!!!

    by Err

    and just as crappy!

  • May 30, 2007, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Buzz

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    Didn't say I DID know for sure. Gave my opinion. You gave yours. I gave examples. You gave examples. I gave contrary examples. You gave....<br><br>"Nah, nah, nah, you don't know for sure?!?!?!?"<br><br>Well, right. I don't and neither do you. I understand your slavish adherence to the visuals in the comics. Really. I do. I just fucking TOLD YOU that a Kirby-esque, FF flight of fancy as done by Gilliam would be bad ass. Then I told you that I think three people would see it. Then I gave you an example of a similar sequence in a Gilliam movie and referenced it's HORRENDOUS box office. And you gave...<br><br>"Nah, nah, nah, you don't know for sure?!?!?!?"<br><br>Again, you're right. I don't know for sure. But I can give examples where it didn't work (box office-wise). Can you give the contrary?<br><br>Additionally, somebody making this movie (that PROBABLY includes WRITERS, DIRECTORS, and PRODUCERS) has to agree with me 'cause GIANT GALACTUS AIN'T THERE.<br><br>So now we come to the age-old crux of the matter. Well, two cruxes really. First crux -- it's always easy to Monday morning quarterback. Hell, it's fucking human nature to say that me, you, or Spielberg would've done it better, faster, and longer with increased volume to satisfy her more. But, like you said, we don't know for sure and, since we've no examples otherwise, I'm gonna have to doubt at least the ones you provided, Burton and Gilliam excepted. And, with that we reach, the second crux -- until me or you puts up the money to fund our Jack Kirby balls to the wall, trippy space fantasy featuring The New Gods, we're slaves to the wishes of people who DID put up the money. The same guys who want their money back PLUS SOME. The examples that I gave are MORE THAN LIKELY the very same examples that were discussed by the WRITERS, DIRECTORS, and PRODUCERS when deciding what Galactus should look like. Do we go with the comics look? Can you show me the financial results of past movies where tiny people fought big giants? Really? Lost that much, huh? Alright, then. On to the next concepts of Galactus then...

  • May 30, 2007, 12:39 p.m. CST

    "Ice to meet you."

    by Zorak5

    They guy who wrote that line has an Oscar. For writing. Truly we live in some sort of Bizarro World.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Seagrass, your part in this isn't working right

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    Look I implied that you had something in your mouth then mentioned that your dad doesn't like it when you talk with that there. You responded that my mother told you that she did (like it when you talked with that there). Then I said that you're right and asked if she makes you gargle it then swallow. You asked me to tell YOU since I was there. See, mine are (joking) slams. Yours are softball pitches for another slam. So, here goes...<br><br>You're right. I totally forgot, dude. Your mouth was full and, while your dad doesn't like you to talk with your mouth full, my mom does. So we followed her advice, had you talk, gargle, then swallow while I ran the camera. You guys can check out all the action on www.seagrassswallows.com.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:50 p.m. CST

    I clicked the play button on that clip....

    by Dr.Opticus

    my bad

  • May 30, 2007, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Vitium Doesn't Want To Talk, Guys...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...He wants to fight, then call it debate, call it an exchange of opinion.<p>Almost done with ya, Vit. I will just say that you are very literal minded and lacking in imagination. Yeah, somebody mentions the TIME BANDITS giant so Galactus is going to have a ship on his head.<p>It's an old axiom in the film industry,"No one knows anything." William Goldman said it first and a million others said it after him.<p>Finally, I'm sick of guys who post on the internet saying shit like, "Can you show me this or show me that?" Who the fuck are you? Are you anybody that I'd bother to show anything? Don't set yourself up as some kind of judge or authority, dipshit, because you're justing wasting time at the computer like the rest of us.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Zorak5

    by Calimist

    It was for "A beautiful Mind" though, kinda makes up for it eh? Naga stole mah bike

  • May 30, 2007, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Zorak5, amen to that

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling. Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria.<br><br>And motherfuckin' Akiva Goldsman with an Oscar.<br><br>To paraphrase Bluto, "well, fuck that shit!"

  • May 30, 2007, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Nice, Vitium

    by seagrass

    Actually, I meant that I had a big mouthful of your mom's cooter pie. TASTY! I just registered that website, by the way. Do you know anyone who can code it for me? My hands are too sticky to code HTML.

  • May 30, 2007, 1 p.m. CST

    The only good that can come

    by Drewchem08

    from Galactus being a cloud is if he is a rain cloud and he happens to rain on Jessica Alba while she is wearing a white shirt.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Actually, that was pretty darn funny

    by ewokstew

    The action in the scene was anyway, the dialogue...not so much.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:07 p.m. CST

    redwarfcs - new appreciation for Star Trek TMP

    by Abominable Snowcone

    The long voyage through the vapor cloud bored me as a child, too. But I was only 6 or 7 at the time and couldn't appreciate the larger story (unlike Star Wars, which was an action movie). But over the years I've enjoyed ST-TMP more and more.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:07 p.m. CST

    supercowbell 2 return of the cowbell

    by nelwack

    How the hell did you compile that list so fast? Also over the years I've learned to love Batman and Robin the way I love the 60's show.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Batgirl: Suit me up, Uncle Alfred!!

    by Calimist

    Alfred: I expected you might find your way down here. I programmed my brain al-algorithms into the Batcomputer to create a virtual simu-simulation

  • May 30, 2007, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Buzz, Buzz, Buzz, Buzz, Buzz

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    Let's not fight. But thanks for your assertions about my motives. How in the fuckety fuck fuck have I fought with YOU? By disagreeing and providing contrary points and examples (?!?!?!?) instead of "nah, nah, nah, you don't know."<br><br>I seem to remember being nothing but relatively polite with you and went so far as to suggest that your ideas of Kirby-esque space giants fighting humans in weird ass cool ships COULD look cool. I also said that the same idea WOULD lose money. That is about the same level as your assertion that Gilliam, Burton, et. al. COULD/WOULD/SHOULD do it right. I thought nobody knows anything, chief. SO HOW DO YOU KNOW?!?!?<br><br>WHO THE FUCK AM I? I'm a guy who says shit like "Can you show me this or show me that?". That's who I am. I'm a guy who backs my opinion up with examples. So I don't give a fat fuck whether you back your opinion up or not. In fact, I thought that by offering you the opportunity, you might could, oh, I don't know, provide some examples whereby I'd go "you know what - you're right. That would look cool and so-and-so did it right."<br><br>Instead, I've got to listen to a jerk off who claims that 7 other dudes could do it "right" though they never have in that way.<br><br>I didn't "set [my]self up as some kind of judge or authority, dipshit." I did like you and stated an opinion. An opinion with supporting examples and a thought process.<br><br>I may be just "wasting time at the computer" like you, but my waste of time reveals actual supporting evidence, not blind fucking assertions.<br><br>It ain't a fight, chief, just because you're losing. I got no problem with being wrong. Totally forgot about the giant in Time Bandits. Admitted it and went on. You, however, seem to view my evidence and your lack thereof as a personal attack.<br><br>It's not a personal attack just because you don't think well enough to offer support for your opinion, Rosie. Here, let me help you:<br><br>"You know what, Vit, those movies DID lose money. But picture a big screen space fantasy epic done Kirby style with the FF. Wouldn't that be grand? And at that point, Vit, would you care if it lost money?"<br><br>"Nope, Buzz, you're right. It would look cool. And I'd love it. Unfortunately, we don't have the money to do it so until that day, we'll have to dream..."

  • May 30, 2007, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Seagrass, you're all right

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    You fucking just made me laugh.<br><br>Now if I can just get my slutty, cum-guzzling mother to fork over the cash, I can buy that penis pump I've been needing. ;)

  • May 30, 2007, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Galactus a cloud? Perhaps not..

    by wellesfan

    I have not seen this reported at AICN but I want you all to see this link at geekmonthly: http://tinyurl.com/39wgrb It shows evidence that Galactus could show up in a more familiar form. Some hope is better than none I suppose.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Vitium

    by seagrass

    I've actually got a penis pump you can borrow...you might need to use an adaptor, though, as it's realy made for those of a larger girth.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:19 p.m. CST

    REALLY

    by seagrass

    R-E-A-L-L-Y. Really. Mothergripin' preview-lackin' Talkbacks. Ugh.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:25 p.m. CST

    LOL supercowbell

    by Calimist

    ...made me squirt milk outta my nose

  • May 30, 2007, 1:26 p.m. CST

    LOL, once again, Seagrass

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    Anybody check out the Galactus shadow on Saturn yet? Man, I'm all fuckin' torn on this flick. I want to like it. I want to be hopeful. I'm open to new ideas (organic webshooters, CLOUD-ACTUS), but how the fuck do you fight a cloud!!! Course it can't be any worse that an elastic dude stretching around a purple-helmeted being who EATS PLANETS to try to stop him, but...<br><br>Shit, man, my brain hurts. Think I'll go to sleep and fucking dream the Kirby dream again.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:31 p.m. CST

    What's the problem?

    by Playkins

    This is a movie obviously geared towards 13 year olds. Why do you expect Ben Hur?

  • May 30, 2007, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Damn, SK229, you are ON THE MONEY

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    What the fuck happened to Goldman? Seriously, he was so fucking awesome and, to this day, I'll whip out the scripts for Butch Cassidy, All the President's Men, Marathon Man, Misery, or Princess Bride just for some GOOD reading. Now, I've got to put up with fucking Maverick and that stupid Stephen King flick he did, Shitcatcher or whatever. Talent -- they get hungry, they get good, they get money, they get fed, then they get bad.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Franklin, did you seriously like the first one?

    by Vern

    You know me, I don't give a shit about no Fantastic Four, I'm not complaining based on some comic strip fundamentalist platform. But a couple weeks ago I rented the DVD on a whim and HOLY SHIT if that isn't one of the most brain damagedly terrible pieces of garbage Hollywood has managed to spend big bucks on in quite a while. I am actually notoriously lenient about comic book movies, in fact I still can't really comprehend why people think X-MEN and SPIDER-MEN 3 are so much worse than the ones before them. I thought they were pretty fun, if a little less consistent than the part 2s.<p> But HOLY JESUS, this movie is not for kids, it is for lunatics. It seems like it was written by mole-people who watch lots of bad TV but have never talked to other humans before. It especially creeped me out how the writers seemed to have all these character moments they wanted to hit but then they would just cram them into one scene with no attempt at a transition. For example, at the end Plastic Man and Painted White Latina are gonna get married and a crowd of people are "aaahhhh"ing at how cute they are together and, in the same breath, The Thing tells Fireman that he can't be mean to him anymore. What the hell is up with that movie?<p> I'll give you a better example. The scene where The Thing I think was gonna off himself or something and then he caused a huge car pileup on a bridge and nearly killed a bunch of people, but then I think he saved one of them or something so everyone crowded around and announced that he was a hero. Which is fine, that's not the part that got me.<p> The part that got me was when suddenly his wife showed up. Her husband has just returned from space having been horribly disfigured by a space accident. They have not yet discussed this. But apparently she is MAD at him for having been horribly disfigured and has chosen his moment of heroism as her chance to tell him she's leaving him. And instead of telling him this in words she does it symbolically by taking off her wedding ring.<p> But then instead of handing him the ring or tossing it, she KNEELS DOWN AND PLACES IT ON THE CEMENT. Do you see what I'm saying? The mole people have alot of weird ideas about what it's like on the surface, so to them it makes sense that there would be a human custom of placing a wedding ring on the ground to symbolize divorcing somebody on the grounds that they have selfishly suffered a debilitating accident. But the surface people involved in this production should've pointed out that half the shit in this movie makes no god damn sense, and they should've fixed it.<p> That was the main problem I had with the movie, although it also bothered me that all of the actors gave terrible performances, they all wore asinine costumes and were constantly saying obnoxious things that apparently were supposed to be funny.<p> I've seen alot of the comic book movies and I don't think anybody will ever hit BATMAN AND ROBIN levels of horribleness ever again, because it's like 9-11, it changed everything. But seriously this one is just below SPAWN as maybe third worst of all time. It almost made GHOST RIDER seem sane.<p> I might see part 2 though because there's a silver guy in it.<p> Anyway what did you like about it Franklin, or were you being sarcastic before?

  • May 30, 2007, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Will this suck like FF1?

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Judging from ALL trailers it probably will.<p>This was not the only clip that didn't work for me...

  • May 30, 2007, 1:39 p.m. CST

    BADLY!?!

    by Rat Fink

    Hell, that ending is for f'd up then my check book. This movie is going to go down like a terd in the toilet.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Re: worry about another "I gots to get me one of these"

    by Dr_Zoidberg

    That won't happen in the next Batman because the Nolans seem to be in charge. Which is a very good thing. Seriously, I don't get the casting of Heath Ledger as The Joker, but I totally trust them. I doubted Batman Begins because the trailers did nothing for me but I loved that movie and continue to love it. One of the best mainstream films within the last few years, along with Bourne Supremacy.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Wait, Vern

    by Vitiumconatusimbibespermaequinus

    You rank Spidey 3 over FF the Movie (Abortion)? I got NO fucking FF the Movie (Abortion) love, but Spidey 3!?!?! You're not criticizing the laying down of the ring in FF while giving a pass to Emo-Parker and that ridiculous excuse for a Spidey flick are you? I mean, we got some bonehead shit in FF, but Spidey 3 is a shit-sauteed gangrenous abortion served up in bowl of mule jizz and topped with crispy maggots. And that's just the credits... ;) Seriously, FF was probably as good or better than Spidey 3, imho.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:48 p.m. CST

    I hate that they....

    by RokurGepta

    show so much of what happens in the trailers...

  • May 30, 2007, 1:50 p.m. CST

    ATTN AICN READERS: F4 is meant for KIDS

    by aceattorney

    So calm down.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Aw now that sucked

    by isispop

    That's terrible. All the "but it's a comic movie" & "what do you expect it's for kids" obvious shit aside...can't we just strike a fuckin balance in there somewhere? The first one is terrible & this one is gonna be as bad w/some hopefully cooler effects. I know they have to market to kids & it will never be the ideal version that plays in my head, but can we just do away with these terrible lines? There ought to be a committee formed that officially releases phrases that can no longer be used in movies & tv shows. This is just hacky. Is it supposed to be funnier cause it's The Thing sayin it to Richards? It's almost the same level as those fake shows that the Simpsons watch, like "Don't Go There", etc. "My Bad" is what Story should say to each & every one of you that actually pay to see this movie. I'm not so I don't have to worry about it (but yes I'm an old FF fan).

  • May 30, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST

    actually that was funny

    by newc0253

    The Thing is funny. Me laugh lots. btw, the 1st film sucked balls but i'm gonna see this one regardless. i'd pay to watch Jessica Alba read from the phone book, double if she read from it wearing that catsuit, triple if she read from it nekkid.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:55 p.m. CST

    This will be terrible, and you know it

    by kevred

    Everything I've seen on this movie so far is simply awful. Bad casting, bad dialogue delivered poorly, bad makeup, bad effects, generic action. Bad, bad, bad. That Chiklis is so brilliant on The Shield is the only thing that keeps every last iota of this film's content from being utterly repulsive to me. But it's going to be junk. How was that last sequence different from the old Corman film, exactly? Because it looks like an excerpt from some making-of documentary where nothing is finished and the lighting looks terrible. And please no "it's just a kid's movie" excuses--we've all been kids and we all know what's good and what's not. Kid me would be psyched for Spidey, Transformers and Harry Potter and think this was disappointing junk. Which. You. Know. It. Will. Be.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:04 p.m. CST

    THIS YEAR BELONGS TO TRANSFORMERS

    by BRUTICUS

    sorry FF, should have stayed where you belong in the nothing. Your first mistake was making the THING a walking heap of STYROFOAM!!!! and so visibly obvious. I would htink WETA would redo your thing for you out of PITY. Thats how pathetic your THING costume is. If there was EVER a need for a CG character...THING WAS THE ONE. DUHHHHHHH???????

  • May 30, 2007, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Yeah...for kids is no excuse anymore

    by isispop

    I'm gettin back up on my soap box for a sec regarding this "but it's for kids" thing again. So what? So fuckin what if it's for kids. Kevred is exactly right. It's for kids, but kids hate that. Just like he said too I remember bein a kid that woulda said somethin smart after seein that trailer like "Eh, I'd rather be at your Monm's than see that". Hey, there's another line for you Story...or whoever the hacky writers are. For everyone one of you "but it's a comic book movie for kids" folks who enyjoy their shitburger & ask for seconds...we can counter with the other cliche of "kids are so grown up these days". They don't like a shityy FF either btw. Just ask em.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:06 p.m. CST

    THIS MOVIE WILL BOMB HARDER THAN ALL

    by BRUTICUS

    ...this movie willbomb harder than all comic/cartoon/CG driven movies this year. Atleast it will ensure we are not disgraced with a FF3.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Don't you people get it?!

    by CloneRangerUK

    It's meant to be a bit GOOFY and FUN! Jesus, why do people expect every Superhero movie to be dark & moody, angsty & navel-gazing? It didn't really suit Superman's style for 'Returns' now did it? Totally wrong way to go for the character. The Reeve era was dramatic, sure, but it also had that knowing wink about it & a little lighthartedness about it. Mabye it's because I wasn't a religious reader of the FF comic book, but enjoyed the hell out of the first one, for its sheer sense of playfulness. I was getting a bit fed up with all the super/anti-heroes with 'Issues' at that point in time, it was overdone, I thought FF was a breath of fresh air. Although they have got a fair bit of it right so far, I must admit that I am a tad concerned about Galactus though. Sure the original design would look a bit ridiculous on the big screen these days, but surley they could come to some other compromise rather than just a cloud?!

  • May 30, 2007, 2:12 p.m. CST

    THING LOOKS GOOD?

    by BRUTICUS

    Dude it looks like painted styrofoam. Have you ever painted styrofoam? It looks exactly the same. Cheap.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Verne Troyer as The Watcher

    by ETI

    Would actually make this better, and I'm looking forward to it already.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:14 p.m. CST

    change my bad to

    by The Only Woj

    "oh my fuck" and I'll see the movie opening weekend

  • May 30, 2007, 2:15 p.m. CST

    hmm.. when's the cartoon coming out??

    by theonecalledshoe

    ...no offense to jessica alba. As for the Galactus, just look at the ending to Mortal Kombat and how the main baddy was done. If anything else, the guys who did Independence Day could've probably done something with the FF as far as effects go.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:15 p.m. CST

    ExsqueeeeeeeeeeZe MEEEE!!

    by Bishop6

    ..this is bad on a Jar-Jar type scale..

  • May 30, 2007, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Human Torch likes blonds

    by ETI

    In that one clip he is trying to pick up a woman who looks like his sister. ewwww

  • May 30, 2007, 2:30 p.m. CST

    I'm still disappointed that Arnold didn't say:

    by MC Vamp

    "ICE TO SEE YOU." And anyone who seems to recall him saying that is wrong--your memory of that terrible movie is so corrupted you're adding dialogue.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:32 p.m. CST

    I'd like to see a comic book movie where

    by Snookeroo

    there isn't an angelic choir in the background singing "ah, ah, ah..." through the whole damn preview.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:34 p.m. CST

    torch related...

    by theonecalledshoe

    Well technically during the marvel's civil war he and she were operating as a married couple under nick fury (who probably couldn've made it legit legit.)

  • May 30, 2007, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Well, the comics always had some humour...

    by Martorelli

    ...so why not the movie?

  • May 30, 2007, 2:37 p.m. CST

    "My Bad" - questions from an ignorant Londoner

    by theycallmemrglass

    OK, I'm a UK, London dude, but I have not come across the "My Bad" phrase. I thought at first this is a new American dude slang, like "Yay", "Cewl", "Squeee". Now I find out from this talkback its as old and frowned at as when Clark kent says "swell" in 1977. So what the heck does "My bad" mean - whats its origin, and why is it supposed to be so damn funny in its day? I just recently learned about "Squeeee!" and "Yay". Interesting how the English American language evolves. Bill and Ted's Excellent adventure is my favourite depiction of America's future. Come to think of it, This film reminds me of Bill and Ted - uh, thats a bad sign isnt it?

  • May 30, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST

    oops

    by bluebottle

    i supported the first film by paying to see it, thus creating the belief that i would be interested in seeing a second film... my bad.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:47 p.m. CST

    MR. FREEZE'S BEST LINE...

    by Err

    "Take two and call me in zhe morning!"<br><br> GET IT? Cause he's a doctor!!! OMG! THE HILARITY!

  • May 30, 2007, 3 p.m. CST

    Galactus

    by Mutley26

    Isn't he supposed to appear to a species in a way their brains can visually comprehend, thus the 'cloud 'may be a proto version before he's actually seen by anyone?

  • May 30, 2007, 3:12 p.m. CST

    theycallmemrglass

    by Bouncy X

    "my bad" just basicly means i'm sorry...its a form of apology

  • May 30, 2007, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Is it just me

    by RokurGepta

    or do Jessica Alba's contacts in this movie look terrible

  • May 30, 2007, 3:20 p.m. CST

    i mean seriously

    by RokurGepta

    how do you frak up a movie so much, that you make Jessica Alba look terrible? <p> DAMN IT

  • May 30, 2007, 3:24 p.m. CST

    "My bad"--

    by zb.brox

    http://tinyurl.com/3dx378 <br>It often has associations with street slang, apparently, though I've heard it used just as much as slacker or surfer-speak, personally. Either way, it was popularized in the early or mid 90s. I dunno if it's just me, but I wouldn't have considered it a particularly "trendy" piece of slang--it's no "NOT" or "fo shizzle" or whatever, it's just something people say sometimes.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:36 p.m. CST

    ZB.BROX - thats a damn useful link...

    by theycallmemrglass

    ....Cheers dude. I wont have to puzzle over any US slang again - The database is alarmingly huge though!

  • May 30, 2007, 3:40 p.m. CST

    The movie will be killed by Galactus and Alba...

    by Judge Briggs

    Shitty, stupid weather effects instead of a giant robot and one of the worst castings of comic history, Jessica Alba... as bad as Halle Barry...

  • May 30, 2007, 3:43 p.m. CST

    okay

    by stvnhthr

    The first Fantastic Four was pretty weak, not unwatchable, but not repeat viewer friendly. This looks like more of the same. It will make some dough, but amount to nothing important. Oh, and it will push the Ghost Rider toys into clearance bins.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:49 p.m. CST

    theycallmemrglass--

    by zb.brox

    Well, that's what we get for having half a billion native English speakers in the world. Neat set-up they have, though, the multiple definitions with various ratings.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:53 p.m. CST

    My Bad

    by StepJeriTai

    Slang for, "I've done a bad thing", or "My mistake", or "...sorry."

  • May 30, 2007, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Urban dictionary...

    by theycallmemrglass

    Man that Urban dictionary is a whole new "Fraking" language! Bobfok, youniverse, naassatall - I mean WTF !!!

  • May 30, 2007, 3:56 p.m. CST

    some day...

    by RokurGepta

    the words that movie was a effing piece of s#!+, will come to mean that a movie was good.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Don't B Trippin

    by Mr.Wolf

    I thought they were pretty cool spots, the "my bad" wasn't that crappy, come on guys some you need to grow up.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:59 p.m. CST

    I hoping the "Galactus Cloud"

    by RokurGepta

    that thing from Star Trek: The Motion Picture

  • May 30, 2007, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Elektra wasnt SOO bad...

    by nelwack

    I remember so much hype about Elektra sucking that when I saw and it and it turned out only HALF as bad as the hype, I enjoyed it, Same thing with Fantastic Four last summer. but that trick only works once.... Fuck it, I'm just waiting for "Batman Begins: Again"

  • May 30, 2007, 4:12 p.m. CST

    And another thing!

    by nelwack

    Transformers is going to suck. The cartoon was stupid, and the movie will be stupid. What next, a Transformer comic movie? Or maybe a movie based on the newer cartoon?

  • May 30, 2007, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Galactus will appear as...

    by mrfan

    one of those cartoon hands pointing its finger down. It will look just like one of those from the Monty Python shows. Mark my words. It will happen.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:15 p.m. CST

    No, FF was unwatchable

    by lost.rules

    Piece of shit

  • May 30, 2007, 4:20 p.m. CST

    The one thing I don't get is...

    by mrfan

    how come they didn't even try to make the Thing look better. With all the technology that film has to offer they could have made him just like the comics. Yes, I know many of you think he should be early Kirby like. I love those issues but with this sequel they should have upped the ante and gone for it. Very disappointed.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Elektra was grea.....it was OKAY

    by nelwack

    Oh come on man. It was like....you...good and stuff.... sort of. All right it sucked, but come on, it wasnt as bad as you THOUGHT it would be, right?

  • May 30, 2007, 4:29 p.m. CST

    The Thing and Prime say it. There is a theme here!

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Is this some weird hollywood bet between studios to see who can put the line "My bad" in as many movies this year as possible?

  • May 30, 2007, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Elektra was

    by RokurGepta

    worse than I thought it would be <p> the only reason I'm looking forward to FF4:2 is because of the Silver Surfer

  • May 30, 2007, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Just watched it....

    by Blok Narpin

    ...it was awesome. This movie is looking great.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:34 p.m. CST

    is it my soundcard, my internet,

    by SylarTheCylon

    or is the trailer sucking mayor cocks? And what's with the thing's voice? Was he actually talking or burping? Seriously what the hell was up with that? They're gonna have to subtitle whatever the hell he's saying if they want the people to laugh at his "funny" oneliners. I'll see it anyway though, because i'm an idiot, but it's not like i'm gonna enjoy the movie.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:36 p.m. CST

    The only NOT BAD ending in FF2......

    by Puddleglum

    is on the backside of Jessica Alba.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:37 p.m. CST

    To all the people who say FF1 sucked.....

    by Blok Narpin

    ...get your heads out of your asses. It was great.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Ain't It Cool To Hate FOX News

    by THEE Miracleman

    YAWN! Get OVER it Harry. Not everyone in Hollywood wants/needs to kiss your ass. I agreed with you that Grindhouse was great, but obviously all the pre/post promotion this site did for that couldn't save it.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Marvel vs. DC

    by warghost

    Marvel comics own DC comics, but Marvel movies SUCK! The only two good ones were Spider-man 1 & 2, everything else blows. DC movies are much better, probably because DC is willing to pay for better writers and directors (with the exception of Raimi). And they're willing to make their movies darker and edgier. P.S.-This is the first time I heard about Galactus being a cloud, and it's more proof that Marvel Movie writers are piss-poor.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:48 p.m. CST

    FF 1 didn't suck....

    by Drexl Spivey

    ...if you are a 9 year old. And that's great because kids need more shitty movies to watch. And to think they supposedly went with the 'cloud Galactus' because a giant guy in a purple suit would look silly...

  • May 30, 2007, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Jessica Alba

    by nelwack

    I dont know why but for some reason I dont think shes hot.... I understand others who say so, but for some reason she looks funny to me.....

  • May 30, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Making too much of one line...

    by jorson2

    Sure, it's incredibly awkward, but taken at face value, the whole concept of The Fantastic Four, in any medium, is, well... awkward. I don't know why this was newsworthy, either. There's barely any new footage and what little there is can't be understood very well. If the newsworthiness of this is that one bad line then someone must be desperate to doom this flick. Oh, and pardon the pun {"...DOOM this flick") -- or not, don't really care. =)

  • May 30, 2007, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Uhh That was funny...

    by Yeti

    One mans garbage is another ones pearls I guess.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Marvel vs. DC

    by nelwack

    Yeah dude, your right. A lot of Marvel movies do suck, but it makes me jealous as a DC fan that Marvel makes a LOT of movies. All I have are a couple good Batman and Vertigo flicks. Superman was okay I guess....

  • May 30, 2007, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Peter Jackson Could Have Made A Movie With Giantactacus

    by Buzz Maverik

    You got a giant monkey in KING KONG. Also, all kinds of giant fairies and gollywoggles in LOTR. With CGI, the only limit is imagination and skill.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:59 p.m. CST

    And Drexl Is Right...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...FF 1 was a movie kids could watch and somewhat enjoy. It's too bad they can't give the kids something well done.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:02 p.m. CST

    What's with the Alba hate?

    by JohnnyS2

    Is it her bright blue eyes or her acting?

  • May 30, 2007, 5:05 p.m. CST

    "With CGI, the only limit is imagination and skill."

    by jorson2

    But unfortunately, imagination and skill is what's sorely lacking from too much CGI film work. 'Got nothing against new technology, but there are ways to use it better than others -- and worse than others. I know, 'sounds like it doesn't make much sense, but think about it. It will.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:13 p.m. CST

    You know, being for kids aint an excuse

    by Gozu

    Shit is still shit. Kids deserve quality entertainment, not Galactus Clouds and "My Bad."

  • May 30, 2007, 5:21 p.m. CST

    With the greatest respect...

    by Hectormaximus

    Can most of you please, for your own sake's, go an get a life. It's just a film .

  • May 30, 2007, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Ensemble hero stories don't work for me

    by BrunoTheDog

    The stars' egos get in the way of the story when they all want to be the main attraction, and the film makers spend too much time trying to fit everyone in.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Hectormaximus

    by nelwack

    Your just a film!

  • May 30, 2007, 5:38 p.m. CST

    supercowbell 2 return of the cowbell

    by nelwack

    Yeah it was all right, but I just had such different ideas in my head. Superman is a tough one. You cant please everyone, thats cool that you and some other dug it, I just wish I could get my own little superman movie.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:44 p.m. CST

    STOP USING KIDS AS AN EXCUSE!!!

    by andrew coleman

    Seriously! Guess what Toy Story, Cars, Shrek... All kids films and they were good. Are you saying shitty films are excused because kids go see them? So Spider-man 3 was just brilliant because kids liked it right? Stop trying to be "cool" or whatever by defending one of the worst movies of all time! FF1 was mind boggling to watch like it's funny but it didn't mean to be. Dr. Doom was hilarious and the acting from everyone was on the level of bad porn. That is Tim Story's fault. Silver Surfer will be better than FF1 simply because I think you can't make anything worse.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Harry, re: the "My bad," line...

    by Immortal_Fish

    So, it's okay for Optimus to say it, but not for Thing to say it.<P>That's not unlike Johnny Blaze seeing Ghost Rider in reflection BAAD!! But dark suit Spidey seeing red suit Spidey in reflection GOOOD!! (WAP, WAP, WAP, WAP) -- whatever that meant.<P>AICN hatred for anything FF movie based continues. Whatever.<P>Doom in FF1 (and, yes, that's FF1, not F1 or "first F4" since anyone referring to the property as anything but FFsomething doesn't count), Doom in FF1 was not the comic Doom, but the template was laid for him to BE THE DOOM we recognize from the comic, plsu some. Go back to those FF comics. They really weren't all that great. Movie Doom has way more reason to despise Reed now, plus he is in perfect position to be the Doom we know and love. So chill. I'd hate to eat crow, but would happily do so given the setup from the first movie.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Fuck, how come they can't get the Thing right?

    by Doc_Strange

    He doesn't look anywhere near what he looks like in the comics. Neither does Dr. Doo--- ahhhh FUCK IT!! This is another cue in the bittorrent download.

  • May 30, 2007, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Bumblebee's line of dialogue...

    by RokurGepta

    at the end of the Transformers film, Bumblebee has one line of dialogue... He says "My Bad"

  • May 30, 2007, 6:04 p.m. CST

    The 2

    by Darth Maui

    Not the worst thing I've ever seen. If it's that bad they still have time to change it.

  • May 30, 2007, 6:05 p.m. CST

    shhhhh

    by RokurGepta

    don't tell anyone about the edit button... <p> IT'S A SECRET

  • May 30, 2007, 6:16 p.m. CST

    "for kids" = no goddamn excuse! (See: The Incredibles)

    by robogeek.com

    'Nuff said, bitches.

  • May 30, 2007, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Incredibles was/is

    by RokurGepta

    my least favorite PIXAR movie

  • May 30, 2007, 7:30 p.m. CST

    You're all looking at this all wrong. This is for kids

    by seven0

    X-Men = For young adults. Spiderman = For teenagers. Fantastic Four = For pre-teens. Pretty simple. The FF movies plain suck as movies in general.. even popcorn flicks.. unless you're a pre-teen. And if you enjoy them, then you have the same mindset as their target audience, the 11/12 year olds. Congrats!

  • May 30, 2007, 7:36 p.m. CST

    seven0 - FF is aimed at an older age group

    by pjdon

    than the Incredibles and that film is infinately better and more intelligent.<p>Explain that.

  • May 30, 2007, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Monster House is another kids movie

    by pjdon

    that is far more intelligent than a lot of adult movies.<p>Just because a film is for kids doesn't mean it has to be bad.

  • May 30, 2007, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Intelligent Cartoons for Kids

    by RokurGepta

    Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, Talespin <p> Loved 'em then, Loved 'em now.

  • May 30, 2007, 7:58 p.m. CST

    whoa there Soylent Asshole

    by RokurGepta

    I said Incredibles was my least favorite, I never said I didn't like it. In fact I Loved The Incredibles, but out of all the PIXAR films, it was my least favorite. <p> Who is the Rain Man now? <p> And JESUS, I was just naming some cartoons that are Intelligent, how does saying that, and liking The Incredibles less than other PIXAR films make me Rain Man? <p> GOD DAMN IT <p> Can you tell I don't like being call stupid <p> HUGS TO EVERYONE WITH THE SOLE EXCEPTION OF SOYLENTMEAN

  • May 30, 2007, 8 p.m. CST

    Cars is probably the weakest pixar film

    by pjdon

    although it is still ver good.<p>"FREEBIRD!" (anyone else get that joke?)

  • May 30, 2007, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Big hug back RokurGepta

    by pjdon

    I think we really started some positive loving on the Batman talkback yesterday. I still can't believe we turned Gabriel Gray into a caring sharing kind of guy.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Ducktales woooo woooo

    by pjdon

    isn't that how it went?<p>Motherfuckin money grabbing peadophile uncle grumpy cunt of a duck.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:15 p.m. CST

    ganymede2010 why is that an excuse to make it shit?

    by pjdon

    why if pixar films, spiderman, shrek etc can all have genuine feeling and care taken over them can fantastic 4 not?<p>Plus I'd say FF is actually aimed at teens if you ask the marketing people behind it. To many sex jokes etc.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:15 p.m. CST

    yeah that was lame.

    by Cotton McKnight

    what more is there to say? It was lame.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:17 p.m. CST

    After that last trailer, I was straddlin' the fence...

    by CloudCleaver

    ... on whether to go see this or not. But this trailer pushed me onto the "skip it completely" side. Man, that'll be 2 for 2 on ditching out on the FF films.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:18 p.m. CST

    Vern, i'm gonna REALLY make you mad.

    by Cotton McKnight

    I didn't mind the first one, but I recognize its obvious flaws. But you know what? If I am really, REALLY honest with myself, F4 1 was a better movie than Spiderman 3. Search your feelings, you know this to be true.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:22 p.m. CST

    Cotton McKnight regardless of Spidey 3's faults

    by pjdon

    it was still a good film. And at least the people who made it cared for it. Spidey 3 was made by an artist with proper actors. FF was made by a group of people in suits telling Tim Story what to do and stared a bunch of models.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Vern...

    by Cotton McKnight

    I think the point of the "placing the ring on the cement" scene was to show that the Thing couldn't pick it up. I always took that as her just doing that out of spite, but I admit it's lame. But seriously, I really REALLY don't have a bias for or against the Fantastic 4, and I have never read the comic book.. so I think my reaction is a better gauge. You calling Jessica Alba a "painted white latina" CLEARLY demonstrates that you have preconceptions on exactly who should play these roles, which completely contradicts your original statement. Calling everyone by the wrong name (fireman, plasticman, etc) was a nice touch, though. But back to Spiderman 3- that thing was just an incoherent mess.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:32 p.m. CST

    pjdon...

    by Cotton McKnight

    If you believe Harry, then Sam Raimi sold out by putting Venom in there. Either the guy is a coward who didn't stand up for himself, or he is a spiteful SOB who sabotaged the movie by making Venom ridiculous. Either way, the movie doesn't have much integrity.. at least as much as you think it does.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:43 p.m. CST

    it needs a rimshot

    by Gargolito

    that would have made the "My Bad" work.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:46 p.m. CST

    IT IS WHAT IT IS

    by bythehairofsanjaya

    Enjoyed the first one and looking forward to this one.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:47 p.m. CST

    I think if Spidey 3 was spread over

    by pjdon

    2 films with Venom being created at the end of the 1st and then have him dominate the second it would have been better.<p>That way Eddie Brock and Gwen Stacie would have had more developed characters.<p>Topher Grace is a brilliant actor and he seemed slightly wasted.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:54 p.m. CST

    pjdon

    by RokurGepta

    Agreed, on the whole Venom being created at the end, and dominate in the next sequel, the characters definately needed to be developed more. Slightly? maybe more like Totally. <p> Leonard Nimoy should be the voice of Galactus..... <p>

  • May 30, 2007, 9 p.m. CST

    SoylentMean

    by RokurGepta

    I'm sorry I called you an asshole <p> HUGS

  • May 30, 2007, 9:03 p.m. CST

    It was James Doohan...

    by RokurGepta

    His ashes crashed into a mountain or something

  • May 30, 2007, 9:17 p.m. CST

    No Ben Grimm... MY bad

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    for thinking for even a second that this movie wouldn't be awful. This is why the phrase collosal suckfest was invented. Man i hope this opens below 40 million...but i know that's a long shot.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:37 p.m. CST

    hmmm....

    by red ezra

    suckbus express

  • May 30, 2007, 10:05 p.m. CST

    ends...bad*

    by Francis Begbie

    "When you say badly you mean the mechanism which makes it end isn't working correctly."

  • May 30, 2007, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Francis Begbie

    by RokurGepta

    awesome reference there, I bet you 60% of them don't know what it's from...

  • May 30, 2007, 10:31 p.m. CST

    The only question is....

    by Heresy

    ...will it suck as much as the first one? It's quite a goal to reach for but with each preview it seems more and more likely.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:38 p.m. CST

    it will

    by RokurGepta

    suck worse

  • May 30, 2007, 10:50 p.m. CST

    He should have said: "Sorry, Stretch!"

    by Bob Cryptonight

    Like in the funny books.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:58 p.m. CST

    RokurGepta my mind has gone blank

    by pjdon

    where does that line come from. It was in the context of 'feeling bad/badly' in what ever it was wasn't it. I even remember laughing at it.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Alba = Puppet Lisa from Team America

    by Boondock Devil

    Alba in FF2 looks nearly identical to the puppet from Team America. It freaks me the hell out.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:36 p.m. CST

    pjdon

    by RokurGepta

    hint <p> the person that is corrected, then tries to correct someone else later on, and totally fails at it, it's hilarious. I know you can figure this out, I have faith

  • May 30, 2007, 11:43 p.m. CST

    I know but you know when you

    by pjdon

    can picture the scene in your head but when you try and focus on the faces they are all blurry.<p>Gona stay over on the TF TB RokurGepta, too hard to try and pretend to my boss i'm working while tring to stay on top of 2 TBs. I'll be over there if you wana tell me the film.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:24 a.m. CST

    PEOPLE TIRED OF "IT'S FOR KIDS" AS AN EXCUSE...

    by Playkins

    I'm just as tired of a bunch of GROWN MEN complaining that Fantastic Four doesn't meet their OBVIOUS high-brow expectations. I don't know about you, but when I walk into a COMIC BOOK movie, the first thing I think is "this had better damned well be as good as CITIZEN FREAKING KANE".

  • May 31, 2007, 12:32 a.m. CST

    The 2

    by Darth Maui

    What Queefer Bukkake said.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:33 a.m. CST

    The 2

    by Darth Maui

    Also what Playkins said.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:50 a.m. CST

    off topic

    by RokurGepta

    but why does one of the new optimus prime toys transform into a gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 31, 2007, 1:01 a.m. CST

    HAHAHA HA ha HAHAHAHAHA ha ha....eh...

    by DOGSOUP

    Sucks harder than a hypersexed dwarf.

  • May 31, 2007, 1:13 a.m. CST

    New Trailer!!!

    by wadi77

    http://tinyurl.com/35ufcy

  • May 31, 2007, 1:24 a.m. CST

    Seriously though...

    by Crimson King

    I don't care how cool the trailers might look....do you really think this movie will be ANY good???? I'll admit, I MAY be wrong, but the first movie sucked so much balls that I can't imagine this being any good whatsoever. Yeah, the Silver Surfer looks cool but something tells me that whenever the Surfer ain't on-screen this movie is gonna be shyte. And that's optimistic, 'cause for all we know the Surfer scenes could also suck balls...

  • May 31, 2007, 1:29 a.m. CST

    Cotton

    by Vern

    Seriously bud, never read a Fantastic Four comic strip in my life. I had no preconceptions about who should be cast, I just said "painted white" because I've seen Jessica Alba before and know what she looks like. To be fair, I had seen the part 2 trailer before I saw part 1, and she looks way more ridiculous in that, so it was on my mind. Anyway, if they wanted an Aryan they should've hired one, if they wanted Jessica Alba they should've been willing to make her not Aryan. Or used a motion capture suit.<p> As for Spiderman 3, well, I don't really give a shit, I'm not gonna try to convince anybody it's good. But I enjoyed it. I really liked the Sandman, his cartoonish look, his tragic backstory, the effects when he was a monster. I liked that they finally paid off the Baby Goblin story, and brought that whole thing to a conclusion. I liked the two fight scenes between Spider and Goblin, where it was exciting action and characterization at the same time. Sure, it had all kinds of goofy shit in it, some of which I kind of liked because it was so ballsy (I call the dance sequence the "Holy Shit, Sam Raimi is Trying To Get Fired From Spiderman" scene) but it had plenty of good scenes, and FANTASTIC 4 didn't even come close to having a good scene as far as I could tell.<p> But honestly I like the X-MEN pictures better because they have more substance to them, and I like BATMAN better because that whole world is more interesting, and I like HULK better because it's so fuckin nuts, and none of these hold a candle to the first two BLADE movies in my opinion. As well as in scientific fact. Thanks Cotton.

  • May 31, 2007, 1:48 a.m. CST

    I honestly don't get the whole "anglo-ing" Alba either

    by Boondock Devil

    As someone who grew up reading the Fantastic Four I could care less if they had Jessica Alba actually look like Jessica Alba. It's the damnest weirdest thing that the makers of Fantastic Four felt that it's okay for Ben Grimm to be bald, Alicia Masters to be black, Johnny Storm to be hardly blonde at all, Victor Von Doom a corperate douche, and Reed Richards an unconfident fool. All of that but someone felt that they just HAD to make Susan Storm into a freakin' Barbie doll? Galactus is going to be a cloud yet Sue can't just be a sexy ethnic woman? Man, I just love the way some people think sometimes.

  • May 31, 2007, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Although the more I think about it...

    by Boondock Devil

    ..they could explain her looks as being further mutation. Thing gets rockier; Reed gets white sideburns; Susan gets bleached. Where's my No-Prize now?

  • May 31, 2007, 2 a.m. CST

    Teen Titans

    by Barry Egan

    Hollywood Reporter says Warners is doing a Teen Titans flick.

  • May 31, 2007, 2:14 a.m. CST

    I love VERN

    by Phategod1

    Please Vern I cant wait till you review Transformers.

  • May 31, 2007, 2:17 a.m. CST

    Teen Titans movie?! Really?

    by Boondock Devil

    Oh geebus Warner Brothers... don't make this movie "Zoom" with Robin and Aqualad. Marv Wolfman all the way... Cyborg, Starfire, and Raven... the non-manga ones, please.

  • May 31, 2007, 2:33 a.m. CST

    Sorry for the lateness of my reply, Vern

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Honestly, I liked Fantastic Four; but I'm a guy who has a taste for daffy films, so I'd say I liked it for all the reasons you listed as criticisms. 'Brain damagedly terrible' and 'Written by mole people' (pretty funny, by the way) are my equivalent of that 'Rip-roaring rollicking rollercoaster!!' bollocks you usually see on film posters. I don't know why, but that kind of film is entertaining to me.<p>Also, I think coming to AICN and reading the negative comments has had an impact. They've made me like the film more, partly out of spite. I'm not a comic book reader, and I guess I'm a little snobby about them (I'm more of a book guy), so every time I read some FF fan going on about how it should have been serious and dark and blah blah blah, it gets my back up. Fantastic Four is a patently absurd premise and they made an utterly absurd film out of it. That was the right way to go, in my opinion. How could a film about people who stretch and turn into fire and whatnot be anything but daft?<p>That's not to say comic book films can't be good. I liked the Spider-Mans (Spider-Men?), and I agree the first two Blades are pretty fucking good. But I like the stupid stuff. Showgirls stupid. Leprechaun 4 stupid. Let's just say, ridiculous films are to me what the works of Steven Seagal are to you.<p>Does that help?

  • May 31, 2007, 3:23 a.m. CST

    I fucking hate iKlipz

    by Steve Rogers

    There, I said it.

  • May 31, 2007, 3:25 a.m. CST

    more horrible writing examples from FF1

    by zooch

    It seemed like every piece of dialogue in the script was a joke. Prior to getting powers Doom says to Reed, "Same old Reed, always stretching, reaching for the stars". Gee, he says that to the man who then goes and gets the ability to stretch, how ironic! I believe every single character had a similar moment like this one. Another example, once Johnny gets the powers he goes around saying every fire pun you could possibly think of like a reverse Mr. Freeze from Batman And Robin, and that of course was when he wasn't making bad puns to insult the Thing for being made of rock.

  • May 31, 2007, 3:31 a.m. CST

    That's at the crux of this series problems...

    by KillaKane

    ...lame script, lowest common denominator appeal and zero credibility. Plus the thing just does'nt cut it visually, just not imposing enough, looks like a dried up fat orange turd! Bring on the Dark Knight and Iron Man...

  • May 31, 2007, 3:32 a.m. CST

    That's at the crux of this series problems...

    by KillaKane

    ...lame script, lowest common denominator appeal and zero credibility. Plus the Thing just does'nt cut it visually, just not imposing enough, looks like a dried up fat orange turd! Bring on the Dark Knight and Iron Man...

  • May 31, 2007, 3:34 a.m. CST

    So riled up I posted twice! ;-)

    by KillaKane

    Need coffee!

  • May 31, 2007, 3:40 a.m. CST

    WACKINESS ENSUES THIS SUMMER!!!

    by Orionsangels

    Is wacky the new thing in summer movies? spider-man 3 = emo parker. Pirates = clones of jack sparrow. ff4 rise of the silver surfer = switching powers. dum duh dum dum.

  • May 31, 2007, 3:42 a.m. CST

    Sandman? That wasn't sand it was kitty litter!!!

    by Orionsangels

    grains of sand aren't that big. kitty litter man haha! anyone who liked spider-man 3 needs to rethink their geekdom and life. no seriously.

  • May 31, 2007, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Teen Titans

    by Colonel Activity

    A Teen Titans movie has been greenlighted by Warner Bros. Scooped again, AICN!

  • May 31, 2007, 4 a.m. CST

    A couple of things about Spider-Man 3

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I still can't believe there are people out there humourless enough to dislike the 'Peter Parker is an asshole' segment of that film. It was hilarious, not to mention a pretty ballsy move on Sam Raimi's part.<p>Also, re the butler, that was not the first time he appeared. He was in at least one of the other films, because I remember from one of the commentaries that Raimi mentioned he was played by Bill Paxton's dad. In fact, a quick glance at IMDB confirms he was in all three instalments.

  • May 31, 2007, 4:30 a.m. CST

    Gabriel

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    They're brief scenes, but he was always there, hovering in the background and observing in his quiet butler-y way. If I remember rightly, he said something to Harry like 'Your father only obsessed over his work' in the second one. So, you know he cares and is waiting for his chance (in part three) to leap in at the most opportune moment and give Harry the vital information he needs to stop being a jerk and go help Spider-Man fight Sandman and Venom.<p>Okay, maybe I'm reaching a bit with that last part. It was a clunky bit of writing, but not nearly as bad as people say.<p>Anyway, I did like Spider-Man 3 (despite its flaws), so I suppose that means you've just wanked in my face. Um... thanks for that.

  • May 31, 2007, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Mach 5!

    by Boondock Devil

    First shot of the Mach 5 for Speed Racer movie in the current USA Today. Very geektastic.

  • May 31, 2007, 7:16 a.m. CST

    MovieMack > Gabriel Gray

    by Frijole

    GG needs to learn how to punctuate, spell and capitalize properly. And while he's at it, he needs to learn to not be such a raving asshole. Why hasn't this guy gotten the boot yet?

  • May 31, 2007, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Franklin T Marmoset - butler scene

    by just pillow talk

    You are right, he did appear in the other movies. But it did seem like he was just thrown there to give Harry "the nudge" he needed to go into the 'light'. It seemed too contrived, and would have worked better if the Butler's parts in each movie steadily grew. This way his part would have been more established and it would have not seemed out of place with his little talk.<p>Regarding Parker Asshole bit...it all could have been done much better and not come off so..cringe worthy. And apparently everyone I know who's seen it are all humorless too. Was it the worse comic book movie? Hell no, but it was probably the biggest letdown after what the second one accomplished.

  • May 31, 2007, 7:42 a.m. CST

    Hey, Frijole

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I think he gets the boot a few times a day, and yet he keeps coming back. I hated him at first, but he's kind of grown on me. I mean, how can you not secretly admire someone with such a hyperbolically crude screen name?<p>And he's not above reason, as you can see from our exchange above. Any real troll would have told me to go fuck my retarded ass or somesuch. It helps that he was turned back to the good side in the Batman talkback. Just like Darth Vader.

  • May 31, 2007, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Nimoy is still alive & kickin'...

    by Kid Z

    ... or alive and neck-pinchin'... it was Jimmy Doohan, of Scotty fame who died. He had his ashes shot into space just like Gene Roddenberry did. The ashes orbit a few times in a little canister, then it re-enters the atmoshere and burns up.

  • May 31, 2007, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Teen Titans film...

    by Kid Z

    ... You just KNOW it's gonna be based on the cartoon. I actually liked the cartoon, even though it was way too "manga-y".

  • May 31, 2007, 7:48 a.m. CST

    You're right, just pillow talk

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Like I said, it was clunky. Although, not as bad as the bit where Harry says "They're my best friends. I would die for them!"<p>Hmmmm... I wonder what will become of him in the third act?<p>And yet, I still liked the film. I don't know, I think I might be retarded or something. I was trying to justify my love of Fantastic Four to Vern up above, and even I started to think I sounded pretty fucking stupid. And now, with Big Brother back on English TVs, I can only get stupider...

  • May 31, 2007, 8:07 a.m. CST

    GABRIEL GRAY WANKS IN YOUR FUCKING FACES...

    by badboymason

    may be the most ridiculous screenname ever... props to ya.

  • May 31, 2007, 8:08 a.m. CST

    Jack Kirby's art sucked

    by garofellatio

    Look, I think the FF movies are okay, mainly I guess because the FF is and always was uber-lame. A bunch of whiners. And KIrby's art? Ugh. Ever see any FF or New Gods art in black & white. Just TRY to figure out what you're looking at. Is that a woman's face or a piece of machinery? Puh-lease.

  • May 31, 2007, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Unlike the first FF...

    by just pillow talk

    Spidey 3 did have parts in it that were good and did work. While I don't agree with superninja on most comic book movies, I believe she was the one who voiced (paraphrasing of course) "why does every villain need to have some sort of sympathy backstory". If they had to make the Sandman Uncle Ben's killer, than make him a killer. Don't have him doing it all for his daughter. What really bothered me though, was the rooftop forgiveness scene. That was complete and utter bullshit. <p>But I can see why you like Spidey 3, but I cannot fathom why you like the first FF. God bless you on that one Franklin! However, if nothing else, you got a priceless response from Vern, so you liking the first FF provided the rest of us with some good humor! :-)

  • May 31, 2007, 8:15 a.m. CST

    "Batman & Robin" now officially COOL

    by garofellatio

    Well, it had to happen. I really enjoyed people dredging up the awful Goldsmanshite dialogue from Batman & Robin. Now it's become The Movie It's Fun to Hate, which means the real, actual hate so many of you have had for that film is now exhausted on this, it's 10th anniversary summer. Honestly, like someone already sead about X3 and SM3, exactly HOW is Batman and Robin any worse than Batman Forever? Both are okay in some ways and painful in otherws. I'm just glad we are in a superhero movie renaissance. We're getting a Hulk movie with The Unspeakable Abomination in it, and a Batman movie with Joker AND Scarecrow-- and no Goldsmanshite. Iron Man. Slammerella. The list goes on and on. Heady days indeed for long underwear chartacters.

  • May 31, 2007, 8:19 a.m. CST

    "Batman & Robin" STILL COOL

    by garofellatio

    Sorry about those TYPOS!!! Can't believe I wrote it's instead of its. More coffee!!!

  • May 31, 2007, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Teen Titans

    by Colonel Activity

    Live action movie: Better or worse than fucking cats?

  • May 31, 2007, 8:29 a.m. CST

    AnimalStructure

    by Colonel Activity

    Is an expert on all things because he lived in LA and Manhatten.

  • May 31, 2007, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Batman and Robin wasn't horrible

    by The Only Woj

    but it was a horrible Batman movie. just like F4 wasn't horrible, but it was a horrible F4 movie. these properties deserve good films. like this scene here, it just plays out like something that wouldn't happen in the real world. and that's what live action films are, despite what you may want to believe. Rather than an intelligent F4 movie with intelligent humor we get a stupid F4 movie with stupid "humor". And I hate Alba. I really don't see anything attractive about her. All I see it a horrible casting decision.

  • May 31, 2007, 9:23 a.m. CST

    About Alba

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    No, not the sequel to About Schmidt. I mean, I just about bought her as a blonde in the first film, but those blue contacts do look really fucking odd on her. I was watching the original the other day (in preparation for the imminent sequel) and she definitely has brown eyes. I'm not sure why they've decided to make them blue for this one. Strange choice, makers of Fantastic Four 2.

  • May 31, 2007, 9:27 a.m. CST

    GABRIEL GRAY

    by just pillow talk

    I prefer Blade 2 over original.

  • May 31, 2007, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Also About Alba

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I like that idea of a sequel to About Schmidt. Maybe Jessica Alba gets fired from the FF franchise and goes off on a journey of embarrassing self-discovery in one of those huge fucking mobile home things. She could have a similar hot tub scene, but with a naked Pruitt Taylor Vince instead of naked Kathy Bates.<p>I don't know. Could be good.

  • May 31, 2007, 9:35 a.m. CST

    I said my bad to my black female doctor.

    by Smashing

    She looked at me and said "is than not black words", I pointed out that I was English and therefore descended from the creators of the language and no they where not "black words" indeed there is no such thing, she took umbrage and I see another doctor now. Black words, pfff.

  • May 31, 2007, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Damn You Cloudicus!

    by Vadakin

    Damn You Cloudicus!

  • May 31, 2007, 10:49 a.m. CST

    It's the delivery

    by DannyOcean01

    Yeah, dull one-liners, but it's the delivery that stinks....Buhhh buhhh, it's like this monotonous tone, without a shred of life in it whatsoever.

  • May 31, 2007, 10:53 a.m. CST

    THIS YEAR'S LITTLE MISS GRINDHOUSE!!!

    by Get_Me_An_18-Man_Fire_Team_In_12_Hours

    BOMBS AWAY!!!

  • May 31, 2007, 12:55 p.m. CST

    That's a lot of analysis for

    by fireclown

    That's a lot of analysis for one dumb line. YIPPEEEE!

  • May 31, 2007, 12:59 p.m. CST

    "that's bad" .. "my bad:" callback or lame editing?

    by lettersoftransit

    The rhythm of the two "bad" refs so close together throws it off for me. You see this too often in trailers. Jokes with a callback work in the test screenings, so they think why not jam the two references right up against one another in a trailer. But it's not the same. Anyway, that aside, the lame jokes are not so far afield of FF circa 1963. They've got that nailed well enough. But soon we'll see if they can also pull of the more serious, nearly operatic feel of the FF circa 1966. Glimpses of the surfer indicate they've got at least a piece of it, but is it just enough to get on base, or to knock it out of the park?

  • May 31, 2007, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Jessica Alba in FF4 movies equivalent to Black Face!

    by Orionsangels

    Trying to pass off a latina woman as a blonde white gringo lady. Fuck that. Racist bitches!

  • May 31, 2007, 2:03 p.m. CST

    what really killed FF

    by im nar

    it was giving doctor doom powers. he is an evil billionaire/dictator and scientist. it's almost as if the studio wouldn't expect us to believe a normal human could over power and defeat 4 superpowered ones. thats what makes the superman/ lex luther rivalry so compelling. it's the same with reed and doom. superman and reed are two men that have powers and don't use them for personal gain or riches. doom and lex have no powers and "have more money than god"...they envy reed and supes and are disgusted at the fact they do good. they are the most formable opponents, because the money they have even's it out. doom is basically the evil version of iron man. they could have made him get scarred on the space station and made him go nuts...have him making gadgets while reed was trying to cure ben...not ripped off spiderman's plot. have him look in the mirror...then you have two guys that blame reed for disfiguring them...one is alowing him to help..the other is nuts and wants revenge...then have him just send a crap load of doom bots to attack the baxter building...big battel ensues...make the FF think they killed doom, when actually it was a doom bot.

  • May 31, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    What didn't work in the FF film...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    And this is from the viewpoint of an FF fan who's familiar with the Lee/Kirby stories, because if you're not familiar with the comics, it was possible to enjoy the movie, which is why kids liked it. But anyway, what didn't work...for me... The decision to make it a comedy. I felt like I was watching "Seinfeld" with super-powers! FF is "the World's Greatest Comic Magazine", not a sitcom! ... Thing's costume. It looked like it belonged on a kid's show. I think the Thing should have been more grotesque, like the old Kirby version, without the plating. I know they were going for cute for the kids, but it just looks silly from an adult's view... Doctor Doom. Doc Doom is the badassest of the badass. In the film, he was just a wanker. The robot in Superman III immediately came to mind. Doctor Doom is not silly! ... Jessica Alba's blonde hair. I agree with above posters, when a latina chick dies her hair blonde, it simply looks dyed blonde. Keep it natural! ... The casting. I didn't mind Jessica Alba, just her blonde hair. I think they needed someone with more charisma for Reed Richards, someone younger for Johnny Storm, and someone who didn't already look like a Thing in real life. That being said, I think it was just mainly because the film as a whole was mishandled... Alicia Masters. I personally didn't think she was hot enough. The whole Alicia/Thing thing is supposed to be a beauty and the beast thing. ... Tim Story. Because it's always the director's fault. I know they didn't have a Spiderman budget for this, but the whole film had a direct-to-video feel, it felt like a low budget B-movie, which it shouldn't have been. An opportunity wasted. And whoever said FF1 is better than SM3 is not a Marvelite and is speaking with an uninformed opinion...

  • May 31, 2007, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Exactly How I'd Get An Excellent Galactus...

    by Buzz Maverik

    I'm talkin' how a filmmaker could get a Kirby-based giant humanoid that would look awesome on screen.<p>I'd scare the CGI, FX, animators and everybody connected to death! Whatever they feared, whatever hurt I could put on them: physcial, psychological, economic, reputation damage, whatever!<p>I'd be Oliver Stone with a bad hangover.<p>I'd be James Cameron served on his 33rd divorce.<p>I'd be Bryan Singer on Ladies Night or surrounded by straight boys who could hold their liquor.<p>I'd be John Milius when craft services ran out of roast beef.<p>Okay, that last one was bullshit. Milius has a reputation of being a genial fascist and running a somewhat...he'd hate the word...democratic set. But he packs heat and so would I.<p>We'd get an inhuman humanoid, kinda how Batman looks like a plastic toy in the movies which makes him look cool. Didja see TRON when Sark became giant. It looked stupid because they had Sark moving and trying to grab tiny Tron. Galactus doesn't go in for that physical stuff. We'd see him like we see the shark from JAWS, only he'd be surrounded by space mist and strange lights and Kirbyoid machinery. And didja see ALIEN? Remember the giant alien pilot with a suspicious hole in its' chest? It was dead of course, didn't move, but somebody was thinking right. I'd take most of the color out of Galactus. Fanboys would hate it when they heard about it, but love it when they saw it. And everybody would like it better than a cloud.<p>I want one million dollars, a custom made Purdy shotgun, an H2 packed with Cuban cigars, final cut, my nephew Slash Maverik does the score and my friend Eriglione's mom does craft services because she makes the best canoli west of Chicago.

  • May 31, 2007, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Jack Kirby's art

    by Chishu_Ryu

    i assume garofellatio has been looking at the current b&w Showcase/Essentials reprints which are horrible crimes against the artists of those original comics, and a horrible way to be introduced to them. The coloring was very important! And Jack Kirby indeed was the King! He and Steve Ditko belonged to an older age of comic art before realism took over with guys like John Romita and Neal Adams. Kirby's best work, in the 60's, lent itself to the "mightier and greater than thou" feel of Marvel heroes like Fantastic Four, Captain America, Silver Surfer, and Thor. His characters looked as if they'd been carved from stone, and had such a stylized look of grandeur to them, a galactic presence. Kirby truly defined Marvel in the 60's. On the other hand, Steve Ditko had a more humble earthy style, and therefore fit a more low-key human character like Spiderman. Ditko and Kirby, two Marvel Comics legends...

  • May 31, 2007, 5:14 p.m. CST

    WANKING GABRIEL: ATTENTION

    by Vern

    Dearest GABRIEL GRAY WANKS IN YOUR FUCKING FACES...,<p> Thank you for your thoughtful and eloquent analysis. It seems you hate the movie WAY more than I like it, so I really don't feel like trying to convince you to calm down. But let me just take the omelette scene you mentioned. I think that was a good scene. There was plenty of shit they should've cut out of that movie (mainly the whole section about Harry getting amnesia), but that scene was important. It showed you - not told you, but showed you - that even after everything that has happened, Harry and Mary Jane are still friends and still people, not just pieces in a super hero story. That was a good human moment, I am all for it. That series could actually use more moments like that, actually.<p> Anyway what's your point, buddy? You said since I enjoyed that movie I have no credibility. So what you're saying is I am wrong about FANTASTIC FOUR? You loved it? Please tell us about your favorite parts and why you love it so much and why it means so much to you personally, and symbolizes your understanding of manhood, etc. And no cribbing from Franklin please.

  • May 31, 2007, 5:16 p.m. CST

    I'd Be Tony Scott When Mum Gave Ridley...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...the last hunk of sheeps brain pie.

  • May 31, 2007, 5:20 p.m. CST

    I'd Be David O. Russell Invited To Take My Best Shots..

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...at George Clooney and Lily Tomlin when they were tied up together.

  • May 31, 2007, 5:21 p.m. CST

    I'd Be Bret Ratner When The Clinic Called...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...after that weekend with Lindsey.

  • May 31, 2007, 5:22 p.m. CST

    I'd Be John Hughes When Molly...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...made fun of my mullet.

  • May 31, 2007, 5:33 p.m. CST

    FF2 can't be worse than Pirates 3

    by BrowncoatJedi

    Could it? I don't think it's possible!

  • May 31, 2007, 6:04 p.m. CST

    PJdon...

    by Francis Begbie

    Here's another hint. The person who says it the second time is talking about wanting the character to sleep badly.

  • May 31, 2007, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Can we have a moritorium on the line "My bad"

    by superninja

    in any scripts for, say, 100 years? Then maybe it will finally be cute.

  • May 31, 2007, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Vern, can you respond to my last message next?...

    by Orionsangels

    and be honest. do i make you horny! randy!

  • June 1, 2007, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Last

    by DrPeterVenkman

    My Bad = Giant Fuck-off Robots

  • June 12, 2007, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Galactus Wears Purple Pants

    by Preacher_klee

    Join the fight against giant cloud bull-hooey. add as a friend on myspace.com/galactuswearspurpl epants and my new facebook group (search for galactus)