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TRANSFORMERS commercial that shows A LOT!

Hey folks, Harry here... in bed... hating on machines as at least 2 lawnmowers and a weedwhacker are going outside my window at the positively indecent hour of 9am. Fuckers! Well, it did cause me to wake up and begin scouring the net looking for cool shit for you... and sure enough there's a new TRANSFORMERS commercial that shows several new cool scenes and a bit of BUMBLEBEE's voice. So take a gander and vent...






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  • May 30, 2007, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Impossible?

    by mooseaka

    First

  • May 30, 2007, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Seriously though...

    by mooseaka

    ...for a thread that is about to have 857 posts, I can't believe I'm first. I'm a total lurker.<p> I just hope that we can discuss the Matrix sequels at some point during this talkback.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Second

    by henrydalton

    Optimus Prime is Jewish?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:07 a.m. CST

    And...

    by henrydalton

    The whole 'boy with a special car' thing is still very lame.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Looks like something you'll only see on NBC!

    by Lord Iktarr

    Mark me words on july 4th BIg Opening.. Bad reviews www.youtube.com/neonsupper

  • May 30, 2007, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Fourth of 1000?

    by ATARI

  • May 30, 2007, 9:11 a.m. CST

    WHy does BumbleBee

    by tehgreekhammer

    Sound like a helmet wearing retard with a mouthpiece?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:11 a.m. CST

    YouTube link. http://tinyurl.com/35uca6

    by inevitability

    For those like me who may have problems with that iklipz thingy.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:12 a.m. CST

    This film is not yet rated = should be a hard R

    by Err

    seriously.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:12 a.m. CST

    BRING IT!!!!!!!!!

    by lost.rules

    "My car is alive." "You shoot. I'll drive."

  • May 30, 2007, 9:14 a.m. CST

    BRING IT!!!!!!!!

    by lost.rules

    "So you're like my guardian?"

  • May 30, 2007, 9:14 a.m. CST

    MIKE BAY MAKES ME SHITS MY PANTS AGAIN!!!!

    by GARTHIMUS

    he is genus!!!

  • May 30, 2007, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Leafblowers are my worst enemy

    by skydog

    Whatever happened to a fucking rake. Quiet, efficient, no oil consumed or people disturbed. Rant, rant, rant . . .

  • May 30, 2007, 9:15 a.m. CST

    BRING IT!!!!!!!!!!

    by lost.rules

    "Driver don't pick the car. Car picks the driver."

  • May 30, 2007, 9:16 a.m. CST

    You got the Touch...

    by Zombieflicker

    It would be nice if that's playing on Bumblebee's radio at some point during the movie. And the Matrix sequels can suck Megatron's steel pole! How long is it going to take before someone to piss off Moriarty or Quint?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:16 a.m. CST

    BRING IT!!!!!!!!!

    by lost.rules

    "Feels Good."

  • May 30, 2007, 9:17 a.m. CST

    OK, OK...I'll go see it already.

    by isispop

    They've been kickin up the hype machines w/the tv ads, but I have to admit I like what it's showin. I know it's just gonna be a Summer popcorn movie as far as a plot...but I have to admit I'm likin what I'm seein. My fav shot is that kind of slo-mo one of Bonecrusher (name?) kinda skatin towards Prime on the freeway. That is cool movement & seems like the way a big lumbering machine could build up speed. I'm not the biggest Bay fan, but I hope the actual combat/movements read like that through the movie.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:17 a.m. CST

    When are we going to get a great full-length trailer?

    by Lawguy

    Too soon, my grandmother was raped by a Bobby McFerrin Transformer

  • May 30, 2007, 9:17 a.m. CST

    IS that Bumbleebee's voice

    by volumedealer1

    IS that Bumbleebee's voice or Primes? It sounds cool,like the autobots are using sounds to refect a voice. B looks bad ass and so does Prime.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:17 a.m. CST

    BRING IT!!!!!!!!!!

    by lost.rules

    "I'm not going to leave you." "It's you, and me."

  • May 30, 2007, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Nearly as bad as being woken up by the wife hoovering!!

    by boyblue

    But I suppose in Harry's case he has his very own staff of OOmmpa Loompa's who do all the hoovering and dusting. I can see him now chuckling his ass off as they keep him amused with the lyrical hijinxs as they pick up all the ripped up Uwe Boll scripts on the floor of his En Suite crapper! Dammit today is a slow news day wich is why my mind is wondering!

  • May 30, 2007, 9:20 a.m. CST

    whats up with this lost

    by volumedealer1

    whats up with this lost rules dude...it's a movie dude...chill the F out.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:21 a.m. CST

    I can't wait to see this-

    by gunslinger7000

    I mean giant, fighting, transforming robots. What more do you really need?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:22 a.m. CST

    still hate flames on Prime

    by BLWiseass

    but I will probably see this opening weekend

  • May 30, 2007, 9:22 a.m. CST

    BB's voice

    by mclovin

    is it just me or did he sound like Cookie Monster? maybe i was dreaming...

  • May 30, 2007, 9:23 a.m. CST

    BRING IT!!!!!!!

    by lost.rules

    I'm just excited, man. This movie is going to kick ass! God Bless You, Michael Bay.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:23 a.m. CST

    That's Prime's voice...

    by Gil Brooks

    ...that says "It's you and me." It's taken out of context, most likely, as that sounds like something he'd say to Megs. I think in the script, Bumblebee is silent, right?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:23 a.m. CST

    The effects look good

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    And I'm talking Godzilla good!

  • May 30, 2007, 9:24 a.m. CST

    This looks fun

    by Spandau Belly

    I've only sorta heard of the cartoon and generally dislike Michael Bay's style. But I really want to see this.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Cookie

    by Rat Fink

    cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie

  • May 30, 2007, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Now matter what

    by Rat Fink

    this movie will kick ass.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:28 a.m. CST

    I hate myself

    by Kloipy

    because I can't help the fact that this movie looks cool. I'm going to see it full well knowing that the story is shit, but the effects look awesome, and def. worth to see on the big screen. BTW why should we talk about the matrix?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Shia LaBouf kickin' it with Prime

    by BagSalad

    pretty much makes a good movie.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:28 a.m. CST

    I heard that...

    by Colonel Activity

    at some point there's sweat on Megan Fox's chest in this movie. Also, Shia fucks a cat.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:29 a.m. CST

    FUCK!

    by johnnykool

    I want to like this, but there's so much bad about it. Honestly, I don't want to hate Michael Bay, I don't want to dislike this movie, I want it to be teh awesomez and r0x0rz my world. <p>Sad thing is, it's going to suck the sweat off Mr. T's balls. *le sigh*

  • May 30, 2007, 9:31 a.m. CST

    More then meets the eye

    by imkindofabigdeal

    Giant robots + fighting = Fun. That is what this movie will be fun, not a defining moment in cinematic history as was the original Star Wars. Summer Fun, stop the hating and just try and enjoy. On the other hand if it sucks, Bay’s balls on a silver platter.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Ok, yeah he's said some lame stuff...

    by Shermdawg

    ...not on the level of Kirsten Dunst mind you, but I think you guys are a bit too hard on Shia.<br><br>The kid's good.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:35 a.m. CST

    I thought the film IS already rated!

    by DerLanghaarige

  • May 30, 2007, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Wife saw the trailer last night. . .

    by skydog

    We were about to watch Pirates and the transformer trailer started. She started to look away and said "Is it scary?" "No." I told her, so she watched. After it was over she turned to me " I want to see that." If my wife wants to see it then I can promise you, it will be a huge success.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Wouldn't mind seein him take over for Tobey in Spidey 4

    by Shermdawg

    Meaning, let the franchise rest for five year or so.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Does Bill Murray voice Garfield is this movie?

    by Colonel Activity

    And more importantly does Shia fuck a cat? Namely, Garfield?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:42 a.m. CST

    after S3 they should never make another

    by Kloipy

    That movie fucking sucked. So upset with Sam. For all the money they made off those movies, you'd think they would have enough to make CGI look good

  • May 30, 2007, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Yeah, stop the hating, people!

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Just because it's based on an old cartoon and is directed by a guy with no ability to tell an engaging story (not to mention no real moral compass) and has no interesting actors and by all accounts the script is shit, that is no reason to judge this film harshly!<p>Stuff go boom! Stuff change into robot!<p>I'll be there, just like I was for Ferris Bueller Does Godzilla. I hope this one is not as disappointing...

  • May 30, 2007, 9:49 a.m. CST

    skydog...

    by Colonel Activity

    No offense, but is your wife indictative of the American movie going public? I know what you're saying, but c'mon man! Also, what does she think of the rumors that Shia fucks a cat in this movie?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:53 a.m. CST

    I've said it before and I'll say it again

    by Varakor

    Big robots, blowin shit up, what more can you really ask for? fuck the story, fuck the non-boxy lookin transformers, Bay has the skillz to deliver a kick ass blow up film and I'm there rockin out with my cock out. It's transformers + shit blowin up = somebody gettin jizzed on. Please don't sit in front of me if this movie kicks all ass.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:54 a.m. CST

    I hate when people call movies "summer popcorn flicks"

    by godzillasushi

    It just drives me nuts.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:56 a.m. CST

    urgh

    by The Only Woj

    this is like if they made Batman Begins from that kid's perspective. or War of the Worlds from some random father's perspective. Oh wait, Speilberg did that (should have been called A Guy Being a Father during War of the Worlds). I want to see a movie ABOUT Transformers. Not about some kid with Transformers in it.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:57 a.m. CST

    I can't over over how...

    by Dr.Opticus

    great the transformation sound is in the 3rd trailer, I'd pay $10 just to hear it in the theater

  • May 30, 2007, 10 a.m. CST

    Godzillasushi

    by Colonel Activity

    I know! It's "Summer Sour-Patch Kids Cinema"! Get with the times! Also, did you hear that Shia fucks a cat in this movie?

  • May 30, 2007, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Is that actually Bumblebee?

    by zb.brox

    'Cause so far everything has said that BB is silent, except for speaking through the radio...

  • May 30, 2007, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Also--

    by zb.brox

    Regardless of whose voice it is, why does it have to sound like a shitty voice-altering effect? They're freaking technologically advanced robots. They can turn into a car, but they can't make their voices sound as natural as Stephen Hawking's speaker?

  • May 30, 2007, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Harry you think that's annoying? Try

    by Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa

    The house right across the roof gets new siding and a new porch, by construction people who see fit to do their work from 8-10am every weekday, for a week and a half, ONLY TO go the HOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR and re-side them too, from 8-10am for ANOTHER FUCKIN WEEK.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:07 a.m. CST

    nobody eats popcorn in the winter

    by Kloipy

    John Q. Public is all like "well, now that I'm here at this fancy picture house, i believe that my stomach would enjoy and large tub of popping corn with my summer motion picture. Perhaps I will wet my whistle with a tasty beverage? Who knows? Because the only reason I come here is to enjoy food and libations!"

  • May 30, 2007, 10:08 a.m. CST

    messi

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    No, fuck you. Thank goodness the movie bots aren't going to look anything like the CGI Sideswipe and Michael Smith video (both decent pieces of fan animation in their own right). Talk about your unrealistic cheat after cheat.<P>Now, I'm going to challenge you to respond or post something other than the words "fuck" or "cunt" since that seems to be all you do around here.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Well ZB

    by Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa

    It's kind of ironic to complain about that, seeing as its closer to the source material. Back when that stuff was made, the robots sounded giant steven hawkings rattling off speeches , and they do now too. Sure it's not realistic or appropriate to their level of technology, but then again........................ THEY ARE GIANT ROBOTS THAT TURN INTO CARS

  • May 30, 2007, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Lour Reed--

    by zb.brox

    No, it's farther from the source material. The vast majority of the Transformers had very natural human voices. Listen to Bumblebee, Hotrod, Jazz, Prime, Blaster, Wheeljack, etc, they just sound like people. The only really "computery" voice was Soundwave, and to a degree the abomination that was Wheelie. This looks like a deliberate attempt to make the robots less human and more "badass", which has pissed me off about this movie from the beginning--they're giant robots with laser guns, of course they're gonna be badass. But making them all creepy and "alien" isn't true to the source, true to their level of technological advancement, or useful in terms of making them likable heroic characters,

  • May 30, 2007, 10:17 a.m. CST

    The dicks started with their chainsaw at 8AM today

    by Mister Man

    What is it with these people? My dad never let us use a machine before 10A - and bein' a teenager, that was cool with me. I wouldn't LET my yard guy start till 10AM. Damn idiots.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:18 a.m. CST

    I don't understand...

    by Dr.Opticus

    all the hate attached to this movie. First in line to be hate should be whoever released Transformers to be made into a movie because when an original story reaches Hollywood it WILL be chewed, regurgitated and will piss somene off. Second to be hated should be screenwriters and producers. You shouldn't dare to hate the designers working their ass off to make it look great flames and all. . Sure you can hate Bay for obvious reasons but you know what it's his movie, made the way he wants. I'm not a Bay apologist Armaggedon make me want to toss sometimes but I'm not writing him off for it.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:18 a.m. CST

    fuckin' birds chirpin at 5 am

    by Kloipy

    someone should outlaw birds and any noise whatsoever until I decide to wake up

  • May 30, 2007, 10:19 a.m. CST

    BSB--

    by zb.brox

    Excellent point. The first two Star Wars movies in particular avoided cheap "cute" humor, when did we start having to put idiotic, reality-breaking sight-gags and puns in movies to make them more kid-friendly? And for THIS movie? We go from "Giant metal stinger impales army guy" to "dog pees on robot"--pandering to eight-year-olds who really shouldn't watch this movie in the first place is kind of annoying, y'know?

  • May 30, 2007, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Bumblebee's voice

    by Jor-El23

    I know Wikipedia is questionable at best but: "Some leaked information indicates that he may not have a vocal role in the film, having had his voice capacitor crushed, and may communicate through his car radio." so...I don't know. It would be interesting if his voice was an amalgam of different things on the radio, like a song then some news then some talk radio that all forms sentences. still looks bad ass.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Dr. Opticus--

    by zb.brox

    I don't think anyone actually blames the designers for the shitty designs. Bay has made it clear that the "little doo-dads" were his directorial vision.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:22 a.m. CST

    The uk trailer was much better

    by kingoflight

    And he also said about his mother having a really bad temper nothing about his parents lol i think that was a dub over.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:27 a.m. CST

    zb.brox...

    by Dr.Opticus

    well, if thats the case the designers should say uhh... That's a dumb idea, Mike so I guess we're right to blame designers! J/K!

  • May 30, 2007, 10:28 a.m. CST

    I swear

    by Kloipy

    if BB starts playing Britney Spears to convey an emotion, i'll fuckin' walk

  • May 30, 2007, 10:32 a.m. CST

    zb.brox

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I totally see the point you're making with regards to kids and so on. But I think it's important to keep in mind that this film had to be made with several audiences in mind. It's pretty much three-fold = the hardcore-nostalgia crowd (30-40 somethings who watched the cartoons, collected the original comics and toys, etc.), the average movie-goer (those who don't really care about the property but want to see an entertaining film), and the kid crowd (those who still watch Armada, blah-blah-blah, and collect the current toyline). Say what you will about Bay & Co. (Spielberg is the one who pushed for the "Boy & His Car Angle") but it's quite a challenge to make a 2 hour film that can crossover to all the different branches of fandom while trying to incorporate some of the mythology from all the various incarnations. I think it would be difficult no matter the subject/property.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Dr.Opticus

    by BRUTICUS

    piss SOMEONE off? granted. This has pissed more than SOMEONE off wouldn't you say?

  • May 30, 2007, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Meh, that's an awful line to write for Prime

    by Ricky Henderson

    "Its you and me"? Even though its probably directed at Megs at the end, its still a horrible line. But hey, they're going for that professional-wrestling-watching-fat-kid-who-likes-monster-trucks demographic. Also known as the highly coveted moron demographic. Seems like a ton of you folks fit the bill. So whatever.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:40 a.m. CST

    If the car picks the driver

    by Yack Backer

    Then my Ford Taurus with 228K miles is like an obsessed 89 year-old girlfriend. PS This movie looks whack!

  • May 30, 2007, 10:40 a.m. CST

    After seeing the trailer in the theater...

    by bentmywookie

    ... my wife agreed to go with me too. I agree MNG, big transforming robots would be a hard sell if this was just for nostalgic 20 and 30 something men and young boys. I do hope there's something that she'll like too. I've already agreed to take her to Knocked Up as sort of a concession. Now please tell me we get to see Katherine Heigl topless!

  • May 30, 2007, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Bruticus...

    by Dr.Opticus

    all I'm sayin' is that the people expect live action Transformers cartoons, at least that's what I gather. It's not going to be that it's going to be an exaggeration one way or another, why act surprised what Bay is going to make, he will wow us thats what's payin the bills No?

  • May 30, 2007, 10:42 a.m. CST

    MNG--

    by zb.brox

    I think if the film was good and stayed true to the spirit of the source, people would accept almost any number of changes to appearances, even characters. Look at the X-Men franchise--Totally different look, Rogue, Nightcrawler, Storm, Iceman, and others completely shifted in terms of character to suit the story, and yet because they got the themes right, because Wolverine and Magneto were so badass and so close in spirit to their source, the first two X-flicks are highly accepted, certainly by me. <p> If you make a good movie, most fans will be mollified, and general audiences will line up, even if it's "aimed" at children. The Harry Potter movies do plenty fine for themselves, right? <p>On Spileberg: I said in another thread--I realize that Spielberg came up with a lot of what I don't like about this film. But if it were Spielberg, I'd have a lot more faith that he could take that bad (at least to me) idea and do something good with it.<p>I mean, look, let's forget this is a Transformers movie for a second. If you just told me that Spielberg wanted to do a movie about a young man who gets a car, and finds the car is alive and turns into a giant alien robot? I'm on board. Sign me up, this is the guy who did fuckin' ET, I trust him to make that a good movie. You tell me it's Michael Bay, though? Any hope I'd have of there being a genuine emotional core to that film sinks, and it suddenly sounds like Herbie with explosions.<p>Now make that movie Transformers--and I'm willing to give Spielberg a chance to win me over, because I know if it weren't TFs I'd want to see his movie. But with Bay? It seems like attending his movie is just a chore I have to do on the off-chance it's salvageable.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:42 a.m. CST

    KNOCKED UP ain't no concession dude!

    by Yack Backer

    Apatow/Rogen = good times. Mike Bay is the fucking concession!

  • May 30, 2007, 10:43 a.m. CST

    this movie looks great.

    by Datascream

    can't wait for July 4th. to hell with all the haters. Get over it, the 80's are over.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Harry, 9AM = time to get out of bed.

    by Yack Backer

    It's Wednesday.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Little whiny bitches, cease and desist.

    by seagrass

    Seriously. I am thrilled to death that this movie was even made in my lifetime. Optimus looks great, the 'bots and 'cons look fantastic, and even though Megatron's design isn't my cup of tea, I still think he looks like Megatron *should* look: malevolent and nasty.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:51 a.m. CST

    I freaking love these Transformers TBs by the way

    by Ricky Henderson

    AICN needs to do something special for the talkbackers on 7/4. Just devote the whole site to a transformers talkback or something. Yack: I'm going to see Knocked up for the Travelling Willburys song they play during the ads. Oh and Apatow & Rogen too--they're brilliant. What the hell is the html code for line breaks?

  • May 30, 2007, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Yack

    by bentmywookie

    I would say Apatow is as hit or miss as Bay, but I'm sure personal tastes will vary. If KNOCKED UP = 1st Half of 40-YEAR OLD VIRGIN, then good times. If KNOCKED UP = 2nd Half of VIRGIN then my wife owes me some GIANT SMASHING ROBOT ACTION!

  • May 30, 2007, 10:52 a.m. CST

    didnt the voice over sounds like....

    by redfist

    A boy and the touching story of his jouney into manhood...kind of voice over? The dialog might be dumb...but everything I see a robot transform...i get wood.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:52 a.m. CST

    wreck-gar

    by prime lips

    = bumblebee

  • May 30, 2007, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Every trailer make me want to see it more

    by Movietool

    New designs = teh awesome. If it wasn't going to be a straight-up translation of the original G1 designs, then I'm glad they went totally alien. Yes, that's right ALIEN. Remember that these creatures come from a whole other planet? By the way, that definitely sounded like Peter Cullen to me - it was probably an Optimus line. Keep bitching, as is your right, but I'm loving everything I see here.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:53 a.m. CST

    zb.brox

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Are you going to see this movie in the theater when it comes out?

  • May 30, 2007, 10:54 a.m. CST

    oohh i'm so naive

    by AllieJamison

    for a minute or so i actually thought i would look forward to this film. but these car-things ...they talk to shia labeouf while he's sitting on his room's open window. oh. looks like this film will be challenging in all the wrong places.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Movietool

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    The concept that these robots are, in fact, alien seems to be lost on most people. Especially the G1ers. If they had their way, we'd probably have flashbacks to Cybertron where the old bots walk around with BEARDS.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:56 a.m. CST

    BEARDS

    by prime lips

    That always confused the shit out of me. Did they denote wisdom? How the fuck did they shave? And would Prime have grown one eventually? Fuckin beards. Did Arcee have armpit hair?

  • May 30, 2007, 10:57 a.m. CST

    BeardsINO

    by prime lips

  • May 30, 2007, 10:59 a.m. CST

    zb.brox

    by lionbiu

    I agree with your post. The main reason I just dont think this will be good is because Bay has had so many chances with good material and fucked it up royally...there was a time when I could just watch explosions and be happy....I was 5.

  • May 30, 2007, 11 a.m. CST

    Not 3 hours of talking on a boat? No jazz bar dancing?

    by mrsinister7381

    Take me, Mr. Bay. Take me now. I absolutely fucking hated Pearl Harbor, but I think Bay might redeem himself with this. Every trailer I see makes me want to see it more. I have so far been pretty disappointed by the big blockbusters this summer. Transformers, you my only hope baby!!

  • May 30, 2007, 11 a.m. CST

    Nah MNG...

    by Ricky Henderson

    No one was ever asking for beards on robots, just for them to make a movie that actually revolved around the robots, instead of making them peripheral. No one ever wanted the boxy 80s deisgns either, just not the convoluted mess of gears and wires we got. I'm sure the action scenes are going to be terrific, but I'd be happier if I could actually identify something that looks like a robot in them (rather than a convoluted wreck of metal).

  • May 30, 2007, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Teeth on Megatron...

    by seagrass

    ...not really new to the TF universe. Check the wikipedia entry for Unicron, and scroll down to the scan of the DK Transformers Ultimate Guide's Unicron article. He clearly has a set of sharp choppers...fangs, even.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:02 a.m. CST

    BRING IT!!!!!!!!!

    by lost.rules

    "No, son. You're not getting a porsche." "It's like a totally advanced robot.It's probably from Japan."

  • May 30, 2007, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Oh yeah

    by seagrass

    For you lazy peeps: http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Image:Unicron_DKUG.jpg (take out the obvious space)

  • May 30, 2007, 11:03 a.m. CST

    MOST HAVE COME TO DESTROY US

    by lost.rules

    SOME TO PROTECT US

  • May 30, 2007, 11:04 a.m. CST

    WHERE´S RATCHET????

    by Romoehlio

    i`m so going to watch this... and it seems like i was spot on on my movie by trailer - description (see new full length tf trailer tb). shia gets the energon, then starscream gets it, blasts of to the dam where megatron is, frees him and then.... serious SHIT is going to happen!!! bay-style!! this is going to be the opening of armageddon-mayhem...for full hours...hell yeah. i`m in

  • May 30, 2007, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Lost: any reason why you're just quoting the trailer?

    by Ricky Henderson

    Because we saw it too and weren't amazed by it to the point of quoting lines from it over and over like Rain Man. Way to go chief.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:08 a.m. CST

    TEETH>>>MEGATRON GOTTA EAT!

    by gride9000

    What the fuck do you think something like a trasformer would really look like. Teeth/ mouth aside. The mess of wires and such are very realistic. Have you ever seen the inside of any electronic device that has moving parts. Very confusing. Also, stop putting the cartoon on a pedistal. The design was childish and ment to look like toys. The new desing is not toy friendly. How are they goning to do that?

  • May 30, 2007, 11:09 a.m. CST

    lost.rules

    by lionbiu

    what is wrong with you? Are you trying to constantly remind us how bad the dialogue is?

  • May 30, 2007, 11:09 a.m. CST

    HERE: The Ultimate Catch-22

    by Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa

    I masturbate twice a day, and I don't have a girlfriend. But I don't have the motivation to try and get laid because I'm masturbating. BUT I masturbate because I'm not getting laid. IT'S A CATCH-22

  • May 30, 2007, 11:11 a.m. CST

    "armageddon mayhem for full hours"

    by Ricky Henderson

    Yeah, not so much. Anyone who as read the script will tell you that the only action that occurs during the movie is at the very end. All those clips are from the last 20 minutes of the film. Hope you enjoy watching Shia talk to his camero for the first two and a half hours of the movie.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:11 a.m. CST

    BRING IT!!!!!!!!!

    by lost.rules

    "No.No.No.NO,NO! Dad!" "My god. What is this thing?" "We're at war with a technologically superior race." "What you're about to see is TOTALLY classified." "You shoot. I'll drive."

  • May 30, 2007, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Ricky Henderson- 1 lost.rules- 0

    by gride9000

    yea, I say dumb stuff on talkbacks but at least I make the dumb shit up....hey maybe you will finaly figure your life out and will know whats going on in three more seasons, Lost.sucks you fucing looser bitch hehehehehe

  • May 30, 2007, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Wha...?!

    by Cadillac Jones

    "Makin' the jump to hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy!" "But I was going to go down to Tashi Station and pick-up some power converters!" NOPE! No silly, childish dialogue in Star Wars at all!

  • May 30, 2007, 11:14 a.m. CST

    I'm just trying to point out how much this movie.......

    by lost.rules

    is going to kick ass! God Bless You, Michael Bay!

  • May 30, 2007, 11:16 a.m. CST

    get Skywalker the Wambulance right now!

    by gride9000

    Cadillac Jones, it's true, like you didn't even have to quote 1-3.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Giant Fighting Robots People!!!!!!

    by lost.rules

    What more do you want?!!!!!!!

  • May 30, 2007, 11:16 a.m. CST

    TF tb

    by huggerorange

    This movie is still a month away, and i probably wont see it immediately cause the crowds in the theaters around me are friggin huge!!! Not to mention all the little kids that fuck up the movie for me. The drafthouse here doesnt seem to enforce their "no kids over 6" policy. They should send me to a private screening, ill be honest when it comes time to review the flick.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:17 a.m. CST

    I just hope that in the sequel

    by Diagnostic

    we get to see Cybertron, just as we say Zion in Matrix:Reloaded.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:18 a.m. CST

    the "you got the touch" song

    by huggerorange

    the "you got the touch" song is super cheesy, along with all of the other TF movie songs. I hope the new soundtrack wont be along these lines.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius--

    by zb.brox

    I said as much above, yes. Why do you ask?

  • May 30, 2007, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay

    by lost.rules

    Greatest....Filmaker....Ever!

  • May 30, 2007, 11:20 a.m. CST

    You can write this shit

    by seagrass

    Orci and Kurtzman, but you sure can't say it.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:21 a.m. CST

    that song was also recorded in Boogie nights

    by gride9000

    by dirk and chest after they lost their porn fortunes. No for real, ask fucking harry. Speaking of wambulances and harry....DUDE GET SOME EAR PLUGS

  • May 30, 2007, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Cadillac Jones--

    by zb.brox

    ...err, what's wrong with those pieces of dialog? The fact that they reference scifi concepts? If that was "[blank] ain't like dusting crops, farmboy!" and "But I was gonna go to [blank] and pick up some [blank]!" it would sound like an arrogant jerk and a whiny teenager, which is exactly what they were...

  • May 30, 2007, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Well, you can say it

    by seagrass

    if you are Peter Cullen. I'd love to hear Optimus call Megatron a douchebag. "Megatron, you are...a douchebag."

  • May 30, 2007, 11:22 a.m. CST

    @ Ricky Henderson

    by Romoehlio

    even if all the scenes are from the last 20-30 min. still, they rock. and by the way it looks, they rock HARD!! then we have the landing on earth (1min), the blackout-attack (5min) for full action-mode. rest of the time we still have giant-fucking robots on screen hiding in shias garden (i really think this is going to be funny), getting catched by the army (bb) and what the f... i know. this is going to be awesome. bay himself said, the moneyshots weren`t even shown up till now and i really do believe him! and all this "anyone who has read the script..." tell them i want to read it too! no wait...i don`t. but perhaps you can tell me WHERE RATCHET is? kurzinski already pointed out to me that he`s only in for two scenes...correct? still. i kind of like that phrase. if el mayimbe was right, and i think he is, then A+ looks pretty good on my page...not flaming, just saying. one last thing: are they pushing the releasedate?

  • May 30, 2007, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Cadillac Jones

    by seagrass

    You don't happen to know of the Atlanta band, Cadillac Jones, do you?

  • May 30, 2007, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Ricky Henderson

    by finky089

    < p > for line breaks, just get rid og the spaces between the carats and the "p"

  • May 30, 2007, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Optimus Prime flame on

    by Nezzer6364

    My bad

  • May 30, 2007, 11:24 a.m. CST

    zb.brox

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I just think it's best to talk about the emotional core of the film vs. mindless action or good/bad designs and/or horrible dialog after watching film. No worries.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:25 a.m. CST

    TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO!

    by finky089

    Because I know it bothers the uptight TBers... <p> TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO!

  • May 30, 2007, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Bring It ... too!!!!!!

    by ludmir88

    MEGAN FOX ALL THE FILM!!!

  • May 30, 2007, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Tino's Breaks

    by seagrass

    Jack Dangers is god, by the way.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:27 a.m. CST

    I'm not hating on Star Wars...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...but c'mon! There was HORRID dialogue all over the map in ALL those films! It was awe-inspiring because of its effects and its effects alone; which is exactly what Transformers will be to the children who see it (although I'll admit in today's lavish effects-ridden world it's not quite the same as in 77). To Seagrass - Why no, I haven't! Are they any good? I loves me new musics!

  • May 30, 2007, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Giant Robots Fucking Shit Up!

    by SlickyVonBoner

    When was the last movie we got with this theme..hmmmm.. NEVER!! I think this will be the type of movie you'll want to see a couple times. Looks like a bunch of OH SHIT moments that happen so fast you'll want to see it again.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:28 a.m. CST

    lost.rules SHUT THE FUCK UP

    by gride9000

    Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa, is gonna cum all over you. Michaels Bay's directorial debut was a playboy centerfold video, I think its be downhill since then....creativly speaking. This movie will be great, we get it. No really we fucking getitgoawaynow. Yes you lost.sucks

  • May 30, 2007, 11:28 a.m. CST

    I liked this movie better as SMALL SOLDIERS!

    by Raymar

    Well, not really but still this is a ripoff: 1) Geeky kid trying to impress the girl next door? Check. 2) Befriends a group of robots fighting other evil robots? Check. 3) Kevin Dunn plays the father? Check.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Ricky Henderson

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Hmmm, I don't know. Where you reflexively see a "wreck of metal", I see a sophisticated robot that actually looks like it could have realistically transformed from an Earthbound vehicle. And while the robots may be peripheral at the outset (probably necessary for an introductory film that has to set the stage), I'm sure they will move more to the forefront by film's end. While it's a valid concern, only the film can tell.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Optimus Flame!!!!

    by ludmir88

    a transformers lighter.... mehhh

  • May 30, 2007, 11:31 a.m. CST

    MNG--

    by zb.brox

    I agree it's possible Bay pulled this off. But my point is, with Bay it seems much *less* likely than with Spielberg. And, honestly, can't you point to a Bay movie that has a real connection between characters on a level with movies like ET, The Iron Giant, Lilo and Stitch, or any other good "kid-and-an-alien" flick? Any reason to think that this movie will be *more* than just good action sequences?

  • May 30, 2007, 11:33 a.m. CST

    1000 points for anyone who knows TINO's breaks

    by gride9000

    seagrass see Tino corp live because its a great show. I was lucky enough to be FOH engineer on that one in san francisco and Jack is kind of a dick mad genius, but the dude ben who did all the drum legwork also has massive talent. And a listenable solo carrer.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Bay is really spending money on...

    by Freefinger

    ... Marketing this movie. Should we be concerned?<P>When movie get this many trailers and get them otu so fast is not always a very good sign... Bay should stay with his Bad Boys ...

  • May 30, 2007, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Cadillac Jones--

    by zb.brox

    I think most of the dialog is fine in Star Wars--it fits with the whole mystique of the film. But even if the dialog was iffy in places, Star Wars accomplished a lot more than just good special effects, it essentially brought together and amalgamated all kinds of myths and hero ideologies and cultural archetypes in a way that Transformers can't even begin to hope to. It did for space what Lord of the Rings did for Fantasy. Plot and themes can save crap dialog in a way that simple special effects can't, because special effects, unlike plots and themes, can't just make you care.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius you are speaking truth

    by gride9000

    A breath of fresh air. The robots are the name of the movie, its not called "lame dude with a car".

  • May 30, 2007, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Designs

    by SlickyVonBoner

    For those of you bitching about designs take a look at G1 bumblebee. His VW hood feet with his windshield chest. Not to mention his gay viking horn head. He looks like a fat yellow opera singer. Tell me the movie design isn't better and more realistic than that.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:41 a.m. CST

    zb.brox

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Spielberg is my only reason. That and I think that Transformers is tailor made for Bay's big action style.<P>And let's fact it: the only emotionally connected relationship in the G1 universe (IMHO) is the one that existed between Bumblebee and Sam. That may be the one relationship Bay & Co. get right and (ironically) it's the one relationship everyone is bitching about.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:42 a.m. CST

    I agree Cadillac

    by SlickyVonBoner

    OT Star Wars trilogy are my favorite movies. But there are a few bad scenes and dialog. The point he's trying to make is don't judge an entire movie by a few scenes or lines. Once you see the whole movie then you can whine like a little menapausal girl.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Cadillac, dont waste your time explaining, you are righ

    by gride9000

    "AIC TALKBACKS: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."

  • May 30, 2007, 11:49 a.m. CST

    My dream date

    by lost.rules

    So it's a bout 8 o'clock at night. Michael Bay knocks on my door. I open it. He's wearing a tuxedo, and has a bouqet of red roses for me. I graciously accept them. I ask him if he's ready to go watch his new movie, and he says no. Michael says we should have a drink first. I agree. We sit and pours us both a glass of champange. He doesn't say anything for a bit, and there is this awkward silence. I try to break the ice by asking about his new movie. He doesn't respond. He just stares at me very intensely. I get a little nervous, and ask him if he's alright. Still, he says nothing. There's a long silence, and finally I say "We'll lets go see your next masterpiece." Michael says,"No. Not yet. There's something I want from you first." I look at him, into his cold and searing eyes, and ask him, "What?" In a soft, monotone voice Michael replies, "This." Suddenly, he runs over and grabs me with his strong hands and pushes to the ground. I get so scared that I urinate in my pants. He hovers over me for a second, and flips me around face first to the ground. I'm so scared that I can't even manage to yell for help. Michael pulls down my pants violenlty, and starts to undo his pants. I'm breathing as hard, and as fast as I can. Then a moment later, when the panic was just starting to settle in, I feel it. Michael has just penetrated me with his twelve inch penis. It's so hard and painful. I can barely stand it. Michael keeps whispering into my ear, "Yeah, you know you like it." while he's raping me. A little trickles down my cheek. I pray that it ends soon, and surprisngly enough, it does. After he's finished, Michael removes himself from my insides. He stands above me like a towering giant. I turn around anxiously, hoping the whole ordeal is over. That's when I see a demented grin on Michael's face. He says,"You fucking whore! Why did you make me do it? Huh?" I reply in terror, "But I didn't" "Yes, you did! You filthy slut,"he shouts back at me. He then starts kicking me as hard as he can, and punching me with his huge hands of his. I start yelling for someone to help me, but no one comes. Michael, hitting me all the while, screams at me that 'I made him DO IT'. The beating is intense, and I can not defend my self. Finally, Michael seems to tire out. He stops hitting me, and tells me that if I ever tell he'll kill me. I nod, and say I believe him. He zips his pants back up, and slowly strides out the front door. I lay there on the floor with blood, cum , and piss all over me. I quietly whisper to myself, "I love you, Michael Bay."

  • May 30, 2007, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Star Wars was a train-wreck...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...and let me make it clear I AM NOT HATING ON IT - I grew up with it as did a lot of people here, but script-wise it was a busy storyline that was a hodge-podge of everything Lucas grew up with; the effects are what made it popular. Lucas got better with 5 and 6, but, ironically, messed up with the prequels and it was the NAME that carried those films. If you had stripped Episode One of the Star Wars title and renamed the characters, it would've bombed horribly. I think Transformers looks just fine - and to whomever it was that mentioned the Sam Witwicky/Bumblebee plotline being the one verbatim straight from the comics & cartoon being the ironic-fanboy rant was spot-on. Kudos.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:52 a.m. CST

    This will be the biggest box office smash

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    I said it before and I am saying it now. It will be huge. Will break so many records. I fucking can't wait!

  • May 30, 2007, 11:54 a.m. CST

    gride9000

    by seagrass

    Tino Corp has never come through Atlanta while I've been here, unfortunately. I still spin quite a bit of their music out at my gigs, though. I love the Halloween Dub album!

  • May 30, 2007, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Gride9000

    by Cadillac Jones

    Ahahahahahaha! Well said! But in all honesty - these guys aren't as bad as I've seen; so far the disagreement between myself and the others has been civil and enjoyable. I'm sure someone will jump in with the inevitable "fuck you" or "you're an asshole" or what have you.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Re: being woken up by the wife hoovering

    by wash

    What the hell's wrong with you, that's awesome! Oh wait, I see what you meant.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:59 a.m. CST

    fuck you gride!!!

    by Kloipy

    Just kidding

  • May 30, 2007, noon CST

    lost.rules

    by SlickyVonBoner

    I see why you love him.."12 inch penis", "big strong hands." Fucking hysterical. A compelling read. I was entranced to the last word.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Naga stole mah bike

    by Calimist

    .-.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Carl Winslow...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...stole mah bike!

  • May 30, 2007, 12:06 p.m. CST

    So, Cadillac Jones

    by seagrass

    Seriously...are you associated with the Atlanta band? A close friend of mine put out a remix 12" of their music.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Death

    by Kloipy

    8 year olds should NEVER be aloud to see this film. NEVER. we should round them all up and shoot them into the side of the grand canyon. Laughing while their blood runs down Washington's face. This movie is too violent for children their age. And they won't appreciate what transformers means to so many of us. It's like an ancient tome that was worshipped for centuries and now has come to fruition. It would be sacriliage to let them watch it.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:08 p.m. CST

    yeah the parents line is stupid

    by Rupee88

    Just has been done SO many times before.. <yawn>

  • May 30, 2007, 12:10 p.m. CST

    or mount rushmore

    by Kloipy

    I mean we could hang a picture of washington in the grand canyon and then it would make sense what I just said, but logicaly maybe i should have said that they would hit a burro or something to that effect, but in hindsight, i guess shooting them into something would be too quick. Therefore I believe that they should first be clubbed to death and then fed to Kathy Bates

  • May 30, 2007, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Seagrass

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...apparently you didn't see my reply above, but nope. I'm not. Are they any good? I'm always up for new bands to groove to. <p> You people really should lighten up Bay. Joel Schumacher on the other hand... Imagine if HE directed the Hulk?! "Well...with Batman I had already put nipples on the costume, but the Hulk's nipples are already visible so I was forced to work a bit lower..." <p> ::: shudders :::

  • May 30, 2007, 12:11 p.m. CST

    who the hell is named Witwicky anyway?

    by Kloipy

    only Sam

  • May 30, 2007, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Sorry, Cadillac

    by seagrass

    Missed it. Yeah, they are pretty good, if you are into funk and soul and jambands. Their keyboardist is pretty great.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Hey Lost

    by Kloipy

    by any chance are you listening to Tool right now?

  • May 30, 2007, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Yeah MNG

    by Ricky Henderson

    I'm willing to give this movie a chance because I really do want it to be decent. <It just seems like the only people who are really excited for this film here on AICN are 12 year olds who can't spell or type properly. Kinda turns me off to the movie a bit, you know?>

  • May 30, 2007, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Yeah...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...I even snickered at that when I was a kid, but that was indeed Buster (giggle) and Spike's last name in the comics and Spike & Sparkplug's last name in the cartoon. <p> Ahhh...the early 80's heyday of Marvel's creative staff.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Seagrass

    by Cadillac Jones

    Hook me up with a link, dude!

  • May 30, 2007, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Still looks like shit

    by NightArrows

    And fuck anyone says otherwise. Have I seen the film? No. Do I need to smell shit to know it stinks? No. See the parallel?

  • May 30, 2007, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Smell my shit...

    by SlickyVonBoner

    cause it don't stink! It smells good to me. See that parallel.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Cadillac Jones

    by seagrass

    Link: http://www.cadillacjones.com

  • May 30, 2007, 12:26 p.m. CST

    SlickyVonBoner...

    by Romoehlio

    that answer was pure gold!

  • May 30, 2007, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Doesn't surprise me

    by NightArrows

    That there are people excited for this. People loved Spiderman 3, and that was a punctured colostomy bag. So go ahead and see it, and see it more than once. You'll be funding terrorism, cancer, and Michael Bay's dead hooker habbit.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:28 p.m. CST

    I'll break my own rule...

    by Cadillac Jones

    Hey Nightarrows... <p> SEE DEESE NUTS?!?! <p> SUCK DEESE NUTS!!! <p> Transformers looks awesome. I dunno about beating out Pirates or Titanic. I'd love to see it topple Spidey 3 though. <p> Speaking of Spidey 3: is it just me or were the only two good things in that flick connected to Bryce Dallas Howard?

  • May 30, 2007, 12:29 p.m. CST

    NightArrows

    by seagrass

    Well, fuck you too. Only an idiot judges something he hasn't even seen yet. I'm a huge TF fan, but if the movie sucks, I'll be the first to say so...after I've seen it.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:29 p.m. CST

    All Bay suck aside...

    by Dr.Opticus

    I will be there in line sleeping for tickets cause this movie is going to rock yer balls to dust!

  • May 30, 2007, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Ow man

    by Kragmose

    Dis be teh suck

  • May 30, 2007, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Thanks Seagrass!!!

    by Cadillac Jones

    I'm digging this band! Very cool! 'Preciate the hook-up!

  • May 30, 2007, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Here's the thing

    by Ricky Henderson

    The talkbackers here who are really psyched for this movie seem to be the type of people who are incapable of proper spelling, grammar, or punctuation.<>That doesn't bode well for my estimation of this movie.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:33 p.m. CST

    To be honest...

    by Octopus Prime

    ... before the Summer I was much more psyched to see Spidey & Pirates, but after seeing them, along with the effects on show so far in the trailers for TF(and more promised...) I am super pumped for this. And Megan Fox can more than meet my eye any time she pleases...

  • May 30, 2007, 12:33 p.m. CST

    I am really psyched for this movie...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...and so my spelling, grammar and punctuation have been spot-on. Although I guess one could argue that I am the exception, not the rule.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:34 p.m. CST

    seagrass

    by NightArrows

    Only an idiot DEFENDS something coming from Michael Bay. His films are fucking dreck. From the leaked script, to the fucking horrible bot designs, to the trailers, I've seen enough to know that what I've seen is fucking garbage. People bitch constantly that films are devoid of a good script and direction, and yet in the same breath defend horseshit like this. Oh and Cadillac Jones, I'll suck your heavily traffic'd balls when your mom releases her death grip on them.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Testing the magic of paragraph breaks

    by Ricky Henderson

    <does this work?> <or this?> <>or how about now?

  • May 30, 2007, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Must there be those lame jokes?

    by Johnno

    I know they're also trying to amrket this to kids, but c'mon... put some more originality into those lame jokes... you can been lame and original... that way I won't groan... as much...

  • May 30, 2007, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Nightarrows

    by Kloipy

    you know that you are going to see this. And when your mom comes to pick you up after it's over, you and your little dweeb friends are gonna giggle and give each other handjobs in the backseat of mommy's suv. Then you'll go home, come in here, and write about how you hated it so much.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:41 p.m. CST

    My mom

    by seagrass

    will never let my balls go. Sorry to disappoint you. You'll just have to settle for your little brother's mansack. I do have a question for you: who, in your eyes, could have directed this movie and done the source material justice?

  • May 30, 2007, 12:41 p.m. CST

    frakking hell--paragraph breaks elude Ricky

    by Ricky Henderson

    sweet jeebus someone tell me how to do line breaks.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Wow...that was hard to watch. (Then there's Harry...)

    by Negative Man

    <p>...I'm not knocking the movie, but the trailer itself. Cut so fast that my old eyes couldn't focus on a damn thing. It just looked like a hyper-jumble of robotic looking crap. I hope the movie has a scene that stays focused for more than five seconds. So far, it looks like the typical Bay style of ultra-quick cuts to not let the audience focus long enough to figure out he is dishing crap down our throats.</p><p>Plus, the marketing machine is relying too much on familiarity with a toy line rather than explaining any story points in the trailer. I'm thinking that at best, they may have a Independence Day type opening (97 mil+), but have a War Of The Worlds type domestic gross (250 mil). Which isn't too great now that less people see movies... $11-$15 a ticket here...sheesh... Not sure how popular Transformers are around the rest of the world, so no telling how much they'll rake in from the F.B.O.</p><p>Personally, I think we should keep kids away from this movie... I'm afraid it will give the wee ones seizures through the quick cut pacing! HA! I kid!</p><p>Though, most I know want to see it simply to see how badly they screw this up. I kinda feel that's how most of the over 30 crowd is viewing this flick. So a big initial weekend, followed by an expected beatdown by Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix as it takes the top spot the very next week. H.P., after all, does have a MUCH LARGER fan base. Plus, it's release is close to the release of the final book which will have a way bigger buzz and free media attention than Transformers could ever pray or pay for. That is a combination that will most likely kill any Transformers movie momentum.</p><p>Either way, thanks much to this trailer, Transformers now has my suck-o-meter on orange alert.</p>

  • May 30, 2007, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Oh not only will the jokes be lame...

    by Ricky Henderson

    ...they'll be racially insensitive as well! (That's how you know you're watching a Michael Bay movie).

  • May 30, 2007, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Cadillac Jones

    by Mattyboy122

    Saying the original Star Wars film was a trainwreck and you're psyched for Transformers in the same talkback is pretty amazing. Star Wars is an amazing movie. That's it. The special effects were not what made it the phenomenon it is. The fact that Lucas told an elemental story that resonated in the hearts and minds of nearly everyone that saw it is what made it a phenomenon. Star Wars is, simply, wonderful storytelling that happens to be aided by special effects (and don't kid yourself, the effects weren't that groundbreaking, take a look at 2001 a few years earlier...many of its shots were higher in quality than the original Star Wars). Michael Bay is a hack. The guy has never made a good movie. The Rock was...okay. But Armageddon? Pearl Harbor? I mean, what the fuck? Anyway, there's a reason the original Star Wars film is in the top 20 in the AFI list of top 100 movies. I guarantee a Michael Bay film will never enter that list. Kthx.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:44 p.m. CST

    David Lynch Present's Transformers

    by Kloipy

    six hours of dancing sperm and lesbians. Robots are portrayed by giant shrubs with pencils for branches

  • May 30, 2007, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Spelling? Grammar? Punctuation?!

    by Dr.Opticus

    I would love to see the movie and when TBing I dont use punctuation alot also I type light speed cuz Im at work understand?

  • May 30, 2007, 12:46 p.m. CST

    SHIA DOES NOT FUCK CATS!!!!!!

    by GARTHIMUS

    BUT BAY WIL FUK YOU EYES WITH GRATE EYE POPPIN SUMMER ACTION!!!!!!

  • May 30, 2007, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Matty

    by Kloipy

    Star Wars was awful. boring and way to focused on it's own vastness. It's spewed forth nothing to add to the world other than Lucas wanting to make money off of people. I mean, the guy did do Howard the Duck

  • May 30, 2007, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Yes, Dr.Opticus...

    by Ricky Henderson

    ...but honestly now, exactly how much time are you saving by typing "cuz" instead of "because"? I just read some of these posts and I get tired of what appears to be 12 year olds breathlessly fawning over this movie.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:51 p.m. CST

    This is ME talking about TRANSFORMERS

    by Brians Life

    First of all, Bay is garbage. It's true. Said this before. He has not yet made ONE decent film (I don't consider "turn off my brain to watch" to be a prereq. of a decent film). Secondly, much like Singer did with Superman Returns, it seems like they just MISSED THE POINT. The Transformers seem like elements in a story revolving around their arrival on Earth. Forget about the fact that the dialogue WILL be horribe, the love story will be overly simplistic and sappy....if I'm going to see a movie called TRANSFORMERS I'd like the main characters of said movie to BE the Transformers. I haven't read the script like so many seem, but I'd be surprised if Optimus Prime has more than 10 minutes of dialogue. I cringe at calling so many of you apologists, but that is what your immediate defense of this flick amounts to. You know that it's not gonna live up to your expectations (and granted, some you have WAY TOO HIGH expectations) so you're giving it the STAR WARS prequel treatment and excepting it. It absolutely sucks that this movie will make 500 million dollars...it REALLY sucks. And I'm sure the action WILL be cool...but it will be hallow. Like MOST of Marvel's films, it'll be a testament to what COULD have been. Damn shame.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Me like Michael Bay good

    by lost.rules

    id thunK Hes Movies is Awesum! My bad! But I 2 dunt like Star Wars. it too booring for mees

  • May 30, 2007, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Original Soundtrack

    by Zombieflicker

    Kicked Ass! (20 years ago, not including Dare to be Stupid). Vince DeCola should be allowed to score some of this with Trevor Rabin!

  • May 30, 2007, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Seen the film, that's not Bumblebee's voice

    by filmcoyote

    Bumblebee doesn't speak in the film at all. Oh, and the film rocks! I had serious doubts approaching but damn if i didn't love it.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Uwe Boll's Transformer

    by Kloipy

    Mr. Boll brings the Transformers to life with amazing bullet time!

  • May 30, 2007, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Filmcoyote...ELABORATE

    by Brians Life

    Tell me, please, in reference to this film "rocking"...why?

  • May 30, 2007, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Re: Hooking up Cadilla Jones

    by seagrass

    No problem...seek out the remix 12" as well, on Jazz, Space and Bass records.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:59 p.m. CST

    I mean Cadillac Jones

    by seagrass

    You know what I meant. God, this site needs a bloody preview button.

  • May 30, 2007, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Whole lotta plants around here today

    by Ricky Henderson

    New names, new faces, and they all have one thing in common: the need to praise Transformers.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:01 p.m. CST

    I enjoyed Independence Day

    by seagrass

    on opening night, with a packed theater who cheered every single, cheesy moment. Yes, it was big and dumb, but it was a damn fun movie. If Transformers is even the tiniest bit better than ID4, then I will be very happy.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Kloipy

    by Mattyboy122

    Star Wars gave nothing to the world? Well, then I guess you can throw a huge amount of filmmakers working today out the window. Many of these people (like, say, James Cameron) were inspired by Star Wars to the point that they decided to pursue a career making movies. Sure, many of those inspired by Star Wars would go on to make crappy movies (see: most big-budget summer fare), but there are many who were inspired and produced great films (Cameron and Scott, to name a few). How many films can say that they've inspired the majority of the next wave of filmmakers? And how, again, was Star Wars 'focused on its own vastness'? Wasn't the first film just the story of a simple farm boy and his journey out into the world? Gee whiz, that story sure was way too vast... Right.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Freakin' COOL!!!!!! ...And yeah, B R I N G I T !!!!

    by JDanielP

    Personally, I can't wait!

  • May 30, 2007, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Filmcoyote

    by Octopus Prime

    I wouldn't mind a little elaboration on your viewing of the film either... ...

  • May 30, 2007, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Yeah, I just saw this movie the other night.

    by lost.rules

    It really is awesome!I think it's the best movie I ever....uh....I mean the best movie Michael Bay has ever made.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:09 p.m. CST

    There's nothing wrong with Star Wars

    by seagrass

    except for the way George Lucas keeps "revising" the mythology of the series. I don't care if he created it or not; a liar is a liar. I just wish someone had the cojones to call him a liar to his face.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:09 p.m. CST

    I thought Bumblebee only speaks in radio snippets?

    by CreasyBear

    Cutting this conceit is a plus, as far as I'm concerned.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Hey! I owned that Camaro when I was a punk kid!

    by ewokstew

    Well, I'm still a punk kid in many ways and it was 1970 Camaro but the paint job was identical...now that I've outed myself as a Michigan hick I feel so much better.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:09 p.m. CST

    looks UN-BE-LIEV-ABLE!!

    by Telestream

    (I used caps and spaces so you can know I mean it!) About halfway though, when you look up and you can see Leader 1 change into plane form = EXCELLENT! Also? At the very end, when Optima Prime is in the boy's yard? I think standing to his left is Perceptor (in robot form, of course, lol) but I'm not certain because I cannot freeze that frame. Can anyone freeze that last frame to see if that actually is Perceptor?

  • May 30, 2007, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Ricky Henderson

    by seagrass

    I am not a plant. I am a longtime lurker, but that's because I enjoyed reading these silly little talkbacks. Now that I have decided to contribute, I can promise you this: when I see Transformers and it does indeed end up sucking, I will be on here ranting about it for months.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:14 p.m. CST

    O.K. You don't believe me. You think I'm a Plant.

    by lost.rules

    Well, let me prove that I've seen this movie. Check this out. In the last Great action sequence of the movie, that's twenty minutes long. All the robots fight each other at dusk. There are literally a hundred cuts per minute. There's tons of loud booming and explosions in the backround. The dialouge is corny and tear inducing. Optimus has flames on him. I don't know. What else do you guys wanna know?

  • May 30, 2007, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Not familiar with transformers but still...

    by Silverglade

    I just want to go into this and see shit get torn up. I wanna see those gigantic robot things kill shit and break stuff. I want panic. I want the sound to kick ass. I will leave my thinking cap at the door for this. I don't care who directed. I will not whine over CGI. Gimme some fun at the summer movies for a change. I wanna leave this with my ass kicked. And there better not be any 8-yr child old saves the day "Wait! UNIX I know this!" cop-out moments.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Matty

    by Kloipy

    and those filmakers all suck too. Seriously go back and watch Star Wars again. It's not deep, it's not cool, it's not an allegory. It's good when you are 10, but if you are in your 30's thinking that Star Wars is the best, most influencial movie ever made, than you really don't have a valid opinion. Look at Jedi. You can't tell me that you think that movie is just amazing. Star Wars is just Scifi to make money. You don't think George knew that he was gonna make so much money off these chumps. Some people believe this shit. They think somewhere out there, there is a wookie just waiting to help them fly a spaceship. People are easily led into crap like this. Lucas was the Bay of the 70's

  • May 30, 2007, 1:15 p.m. CST

    WRONG!

    by Telestream

    Seagrass is W-R-O-N-G. (caps and spacing = for serious) I watched the preview again with my eyes very close to the screen = I am 88% sure that it IS Perceptor there at the end. Yessss! This movie will RULE!

  • May 30, 2007, 1:16 p.m. CST

    FUCK ART. LET'S DANCE.

    by micturatingbenjamin

    Yeah, this movie's gonna be a blockbuster. What's even funnier, is that kids who see this in July, this is going to be THEIR Transformers, The Movie. And you know what? They're not gonna care about that shit. Great, sez me. This movie is depending on whether or not you like the big ass robots making big ass explosions. I saw The Island, which is Parts, The Clonus Horror with big ass explosions, and it was ok. Bay gets bajillions of dollars to make the kinds of crap he and lots of other non-intellectuals like. More power to him. More power to us! Get over it, and don't go see it if you think it's going to suck! It's cool with me if you don't like it! I'm going to see it, I guess. I dunno...I still haven't seen Pirates 3 yet...but because I'm saving up for some big ass purchase in the fall. Later! MB

  • May 30, 2007, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Star Wars hyperbole...

    by Cadillac Jones

    No offense Matty, you are a true Star Wars fan, I can appreciate that being a huge comic book geek myself, but Star Wars has been placed on a pedestal that is simply rediculous with grandoise defenses like you said "Star Wars is an amazing movie. That's it. The special effects were not what made it the phenomenon it is. The fact that Lucas told an elemental story that resonated in the hearts and minds of nearly everyone that saw it is what made it a phenomenon." <p> Jorge Lucas got lucky because of the effects; I can guarantee that back in '77, audiences walking out weren't saying "Wow! What an amalgamation of Kirosawa and Japanese Samurai epics with Western and Flash Gordon influences" but rather "Holy shit! Did you see that X-Wing trench battle?! How did they do that?!" <p> I grew up early with Star Wars, but, when I was 8, Transformers came along and stepped in for the remaining years of my youth in the 80's; that's why I will totally admit about psyched for Transformers and letting trump Star Wars. <p> And EVERY director has had flops - Spielberg had 1941; Lucas had American Graffiti (which wasn't necessarily a flop,mind you). <p> And as far as Lucas getting lucky - there's no shame in that; Look at Spielberg and Jaws? Jaws is the only instance that I know of where a film was better than the book. The book is truly awful, what with horrible plotlines such as the Mafia strong-arming Brody because their beach estates are losing money to the whole Moby Dick rip-off ending with Quint getting caught in the lines after harpooning Jaws. <p> ::: shakes head :::

  • May 30, 2007, 1:18 p.m. CST

    This is ME talking about GEORGE LUCAS & YES-MEN

    by Brians Life

    Quick story, a guy I work with is good friends w/ Drew Struzan and was invited to the EPISODE 1 premiere. They left about half hour into it and walked into the lobby to SEE that George Lucas and some producer were standing there...when asked what they thought the guy i work with replied "Well, it wasn't MY Star Wars." He said the look on Lucas' face was very telling. Drew told him later on that NO ONE critiques Lucas anymore...doesn't happen.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Oh, and one more thing...

    by lost.rules

    Shia fucks a cat. Mom catches him doing it, and we find out why she has a "temper". Oh, and Optimus fucks Meagn Fox. Megan, surprisingly enough can handle the 20 ft Steel cock. Cinematic Masterpiece.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Telestream

    by seagrass

    Think your aim is a bit off. I never said anything about Perceptor.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:21 p.m. CST

    And leave Lucas alone!

    by Telestream

    Ever seen a little something called 'Logan's Run'? Hmmmm? Go watch that and THEN try and say Lucas sucks with a straight face!! Also-- my bad, it's NOT Perceptor in this new commercial. But it looks EXACTLY like him...maybe he's in the sequel? (Hope hope!) Perceptor vs. Cy-Kill! Bring it!

  • May 30, 2007, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Ok, Lucas Sucks!

    by Kloipy

    Howard the Duck. I hate Star Wars, not even a fan of Indy. Look what he did to the force. He made it aids

  • May 30, 2007, 1:24 p.m. CST

    I'm hoping this does well

    by SlickyVonBoner

    So they can make sequels can concentrate more on the Transformers themselves. Bring on Hound, Mirage, Soundwave... and Unicron. Wouldn't that be sweet to see Unicron towering over Earth ready to destroy it. They can't possibly fuck up that. Just like Galacticus, yep just like Galacticus....

  • May 30, 2007, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Kloipy

    by Mattyboy122

    I'm only talking about the first Star Wars film here, not the entire saga. Many people obviously have varying opinions on the whole saga (hell, many wish the prequels were never made), but the influence of the first film is undeniable. It is a great movie. I'm not saying it's the best movie ever made. I've seen better. But it is a magical film, one that resonates for many more reasons than special effects (which, again, were not that groundbreaking considering 2001 came out nearly 10 years earlier). And, did you just say Scott and Cameron suck? I mean, they have made a few stinkers, but I challenge you to name a science fiction film in the last 25 years that's better than Blade Runner. Or an action film in the last 20 years that is better than Terminator 2 (Die Hard is probably better, but T2 is still great). Again, I'm not talking about the quality of the influence. I'm just saying it had an undeniable influence. And saying Lucas was the Bay of the 70's is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard (especially since, his, as you might put it, 'money-mongering' didn't really hit full stride until the 1980's). I mean, isn't it obvious that THX 1138 was made to be a box office smash? Oh, that's right, it wasn't made to be one, and it wasn't. And American Graffiti was a box office smash because the film resonated with audiences at the time (hey, waddayaknow, just like Star Wars). All I'm saying is that A. the first Star Wars movie is a great film, period. and B. its influence, for better or worse, is undeniable.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Telestream

    by Kloipy

    Hate to break it to you, but Lucas didn't direct Logan's run

  • May 30, 2007, 1:27 p.m. CST

    What's with all the cat-fucking and yelling here?

    by Yack Backer

    Just wondering, because I didn't bring the appropriate toolbox for this shit.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Logan's Run

    by Telestream

    Yes he did.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:27 p.m. CST

    You misunderstand me, Sylar Returns

    by seagrass

    I will *only* be on here bashing Transformers if it sucks. If I enjoy it, then I will happily defend the film based on its merits. I am indifferent to Michael Bay as a director. I loved the Rock, but I hate Armageddon.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:28 p.m. CST

    This is ME talking about KLOIPY BEING OUTTA LINE

    by Brians Life

    "Lucas was the Bay of the 70s"?!? REALLY!?! you TRULY believe that statement. George Lucas is by no means a great director, but he IS a very capable storyteller. There IS a fundamental reason that STAR WARS sticks with so many of us the way it does. How it crosses taste in movies to the point where most, if not love it, at least find it watchable. Do you think that 5 year olds that watched Armagedon are going to keep watching it until adulthood and want to show thier kids the MICHAEL BAY collection? Star Wars WAS about much more than special effects, there was a very innocent story at the heart of the first movie that resonates with most of us. 2001 has special effects that were superior to STAR WARS and that was 7 years earlier...yes, people ate up the dogfights and wookies but to say that they didn't think it was deep is insulting. Hey, I HATED the prequels but the Star Wars Trilogy still remains a series of movie that I feel I can watch ANYTIME. Never felt that way about a Bay film...

  • May 30, 2007, 1:28 p.m. CST

    What's totally amusing to me now...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...is the fact that I just remembered Hasbro made STAR WARS TRANSFORMERS! <p> And the Obi-Wan Transformer had a robo-beard, signifying he had elder robot wisdom.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:28 p.m. CST

    There is one thing you haters always forget:

    by DerLanghaarige

    Spielberg is producing! Yes, today he is less than half the director he used to be till 1993, but he is still one great producer (when it's about theatrical movies. He had some missfires on TV...).

  • May 30, 2007, 1:29 p.m. CST

    BAY WIL FUKK YUR EYES UNTL YOU SHIT UR PANTS ON 7.4.7!!

    by GARTHIMUS

    U WILL GET UR $10 WORTH WHINY GEEWUN CRYBABES!!!!!!!

  • May 30, 2007, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Matty

    by Kloipy

    I know what you are trying to say. It's fine that you believe what you believe. All i'm saying is I don't find star wars to be magical. It would have been better if it wouldn't have influenced other movies I think.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Spielberg is producing The Lot

    by lost.rules

    Great Show!

  • May 30, 2007, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Yeah, its this Gabriel Gray fellow

    by Ricky Henderson

    He seems to like screaming a lot. Dont you just hate it when the psychotropic prescrpitions run out? As far as the cat fucking goes, I have no idea whatsoever where that came from... I think the night shift is to blame for it.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Loved The Rock...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...loved parts of Armageddon, Bad Boys were fun action flicks. Saw Pearl Harbor once, never again. Never saw The Island - just didn't look interesting. Micheal Bay, is to me, an average filmmaker; not uber-talented but at least he knows the type of films he makes and make no apology for them. <p> Even though I like his movies, Stephen Sommers is worse than Bay. I think we can all agree on that.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Also

    by seagrass

    I still have my original toy of Optimus Prime, and I gotta say...he looks like a pussy: Skinny little arms, boxy non-streamlined shape. I never liked him with that flatcab design, even as a kid. Bay's Prime is much more impressive, flames and all. I was always a fan of the Sideswipe/Sunstreaker duo, because trucks were boring and slow compared to sports cars.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Cadillac Jones

    by Mattyboy122

    I am a Star Wars fan, and I'm not throwing around hyperbole when I say the impact of the original Star Wars film was huge. It's just a fact. However, I'm not going to go around preaching about my opinions on the films, because I understand Star Wars is a pretty touchy subject for some. But again, objectively speaking, the film had a huge impact. And I've refuted your point about the effects: 2001 came out nearly 10 years earlier, had effects that rivaled, if not bested, Star Wars. The effects work was not that phenomenal. I'm not saying people left the theatre knowing exactly what hit them, but they definitely knew they had experienced something special. Saying that Star Wars resonated because of the effects is like saying the same for E.T. The effects served a great story and both films resonated deeply in audiences. And American Graffiti wasn't a flop. It was a huge success, garnered a number of Oscar nods (including a Best Director nod for Lucas), and inspired Happy Days. THX 1138 was a flop, though. And I don't think Spielberg really got lucky with Jaws, either. The fact that you said the book isn't that great ought to reaffirm the notion that he didn't get lucky. I mean, think about it, if Spielberg was given a great book to adapt and adapted it, he'd be considered lucky. But he took a simple bestseller, changed many of the ideas in it, borrowed a bit from Hitchcock, and made a film with huge pop-cultural resonance.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Spielberg owns something...what's it called?

    by lost.rules

    OH, YEAH! DREAMWORKS! What studio is producing this film? OH, YEAH! DREAMWORKS!

  • May 30, 2007, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Cadillac Jones--

    by zb.brox

    I'm certainly not going to argue for the prequels. If this movie is only as good as Phantom Menace, I'll consider it a failure.<p>Butthe original Star Wars had likable, iconic characters who got to do and say things that fleshed them into somewhat realistic (if stylized) human beings. It had the feel of mythology to it, and the plot was hardly busier than any other action-adventure movie. And it actually immersed you in a familiar, but different, mythology and world--what are the chances Transformers will do anything like that? The Star Wars prequels lost it because they abandoned exactly that kind of thinking, the storytelling lagged, the storylines were less classic adventure and more cumbersome, the dialog went from being merely pulpy to being, well, often awful. That looks to be more like what we're getting from Transformers.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Ricky Henderson...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...Nightshift indeed! Ahahahaha! Awesome!

  • May 30, 2007, 1:34 p.m. CST

    ????!!!!!

    by Telestream

    Cat f****ing? Are you serious? I hope NOT = gross. Who has REALLY seen this (no fakes) and please confirm if Perceptor makes an appearance (even in cameo format, or flashback format, or dream format)

  • May 30, 2007, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Telestream and Brian

    by Kloipy

    No he didn't. go to imdb. type in Logan's run. You'll see. Brian the story never resonated with me. I'm not from space. I've never fought with a light saber. I never had the hots for my sister. George Lucas knows that he can do whatever the hell he wants and people will suck it up like cocaine. Star Wars christmas special, the ewok movie, all the toys and fast food tie-ins. He knows if he shows a bunch of dumb shit that people will drool over, he'll continue to bring it the bucks a la Bay

  • May 30, 2007, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Italian Trailer for Transformers

    by RokurGepta

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFNIZ1Q_m74 <p>

  • May 30, 2007, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Transformers>Star Wars

    by lost.rules

    Yep. I went there.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Re: The Lot

    by seagrass

    Half the "shorts" looked like bad commercials for terrible products, especially the incredibly non-sexy airport security short. That woman has a future, alright: directing Prell commercials. I loved the barfing aliens, though.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius--

    by zb.brox

    It's not just about relationships, though, it's about defining characters with emotional centers. If you can show me any movie by Bay where he successfully juggles more than, say, two characters with distinct personalities and emotional cores to them, I'll be very surprised.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Kloipy

    by Telestream

    You are WRONG, sir. I don't want to get into an argument. But your fact is wrong. What in the heck is an imbb?

  • May 30, 2007, 1:39 p.m. CST

    star wars transformers

    by prime lips

    toy line into movie would just prove too much. my head would implode. chewie transforms into the millenium falcon, arcee's armpits into ewoks - bring it bay.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Kloipy

    by Mattyboy122

    Oh, that's totally fine. If you think Star Wars has had a detrimental impact, I agree on one hand. Most of the crap coming out right now is the byproduct of the successes of Star Wars, Jaws, E.T., Raiders...the early blockbusters. But I'd argue that, unlike a lot of the stuff driven by corporate execs today, many of those original blockbusters were great films in their own right, so I can't really blame Lucas or Spielberg for making a few great, popular films. I'd be more quick to blame money-hungry execs who tried to recapture the formula they developed. But if Star Wars never resonated for you, that's fine.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Harry selling out

    by trombone

    Harry, could we please get a talkback devoted to the effects of success on your reviews? How the money has directly and indirectly affected the nature of this site? Sorry, man, as much as I am proud of you and congratulate you on Playboy and all the work you do for us, I really felt disserved by the whole Spider-Man 3 thing. I had been under the impression that AICN was partly here to warn us about the turkeys. And I went in to Spider-Man 3 fully expecting it to own. So just what influence DOES success have? And I'm not necessarily talking about the studios giving you goodies so that you will write favorable reviews. How does it effect your choices of what is and what is not a TB? How much do you consider the big budget projects as opposed to the smaller ones? Are you more resistant to tearing a hole in some disgusting project? Wondering if the studio will keep you in the dark next time? Maybe in the back of your head? I'm still very skeptical about Die Soft and it really seemed that Walter B "bought" Vern's opinion on that one with his presence. Vern turned right around. Curious how it looks from your end. How DO you do things differently? Curious.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:40 p.m. CST

    lost.rules

    by DerLanghaarige

    But not every film that is made by Dreamworks is automatically produced by Spielberg! (As in "Executive Producer: Steven Spielberg")

  • May 30, 2007, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Telestream

    by Kloipy

    IMDB is a website. It has a ton of movies and the facts about them. Logan's Run was directed by Michael Anderson.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Kevin Bacon wasn't in Footloose.

    by lost.rules

    Yes, he was. No, he wasn't. Are you kidding? He was on the cover of Newsweek. No, he wasn't. Yes, he was. No, he wasn't! No.No.No.No.No.No.NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONNONONONONO!!!!!!!! He-haw,HE-HAW!

  • May 30, 2007, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Kloipy....

    by Brians Life

    To each his own, Kloip. I absolutely agree that George Lucas IS a merchandising whore. However I also think that creating a story and making a deal for the merchandising rights so that you can have money to make more movies is QUITE different from making a SHIT movie and getting lucky because alot of stupid people will go see it. Keep in mind, also, that I don't consider Star Wars to be "stupid shit". Has Lucas gone too far? Absolutely...BUT I make an immense separation between young hungry and apparently talented director Lucas of the 70's and the media corporate whore he's become. BAY, on the other hand, has NEVER made a redeemable film.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:42 p.m. CST

    FRIGGIN AWESOME!!!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Not as awesome as the PG-13 LIVE FREE OR DIE WATERED DOWN trailer and not nearly as awesome as the frakkin cool RAMBO clip. But awesome enough to keep me interested.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:42 p.m. CST

    These designs = FAIL

    by photoboy

    It's like someone forgot to tell Bay they'd got the actual Transformers license and he didn't need to change everything to avoid a law suit, including covering Optino Prime with flames and giving him a mouth and making Megatino look like he'd been magnetised and taken through a nail factory.<br><br> And that's before we even get to the shitty story with its hilarious dog peeing on Autobots gags! How hilarious, my sides will surely split...

  • May 30, 2007, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Spielberg only barrowed from Hitchcock...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...because he was forced to, due to Bruce's tantrums when immersed in seawater. And I know there were studio fights because Benchley raised a ruckus and finally, they wised up and tossed him off the set. <p> As Seagrass said - if Transformers is HALF as good as Independence Day, I, too, will be quite a happy camper. I fully realize Transformers is a movie based on a toyline; its not Ben Hur. Hell, it isn't even Spider-Man! But everything I've seen so far looks promising that it'll be a fun ride. <p> And there's aboslutely no shame in that - up on my DVD wall I have Glenngary Glenross and Momento side-by-side with Jurassic Park and Stargate. I like ALL types of movies. <p> And to be completely honest I totally forgot where I was going with this - so let's talk about the hotness that is Keeley Hazel.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:43 p.m. CST

    RE: What the fuck does an Executive Producer do?

    by lost.rules

    ?

  • May 30, 2007, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Nice try!

    by Telestream

    Okay. I get it. Nobdy likes Michael Anerson on this site because he made Event Horizon. (Actually, I liked Event Horizon, but DePalma's version on TV was waaaaaaaaay better). But no...seriously. a) Lucas's Logan's Run RULES! and b) this other site claims, definitively, that Perceptor is NOT in Transformers. Oh well...there's always Part 2, right? (lol)

  • May 30, 2007, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Lucas also directed The Godfather

    by lost.rules

    you fucking idiot!

  • May 30, 2007, 1:47 p.m. CST

    SEE DEESE NUTS?!

    by Cadillac Jones

    PERCEPT DEESE NUTS!!!

  • May 30, 2007, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Gabriel Gray...

    by Brians Life

    Lucas has DEFINETELY written some crap, BUT he's also responsible for three movies that helped shape my professional career and brightened my childhood. He ALSO wrote Indiana Jones, Herbie, and the FIRST American Grafitti....and hey, I liked Willow and Young Sherlock Holmes. Different Strokes, I suppose. He's no fucking Robert Frost, but he CAN tell a story.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Jeez.

    by Telestream

    I don't appreciate being called an f-ing idiot. Just because I have an opinion!

  • May 30, 2007, 1:50 p.m. CST

    LUCAS DIDN'T DIRECT LOGAN'S RUN

    by Kloipy

    STFU

  • May 30, 2007, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Is Lost.Rules...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...Sean Connery? Because in my mind, I heard his "You fucking idiot!" with Sean Connery's voice. <p> Uncanny! <p> Know what's funny? Reading the old Conan comics, or original Robert E. Howard tales, but "imagining" Conan's lines being spoken by Arnold.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Cadillac Jones

    by Mattyboy122

    I think Spielberg borrowing from Hitchcock had more to do with the fact that he loves Hitchcock's films than anything else. I mean, the Vertigo shot in Jaws? It shows up again in E.T., and he definitely wasn't forced to put that in there. He just loves giving nods to his favorite filmmakers (or, some might say, stealing from them, but that's a whole different debate).

  • May 30, 2007, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Yes. He DID!

    by Telestream

    what is an STFU?

  • May 30, 2007, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Get your Transformers halloween costumes ready...

    by aceattorney

    Bigger than Spidey and Witty Jack put together.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:52 p.m. CST

    SK229...the entry I didn't have the patience to right.

    by Brians Life

    Well said...well said.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Telestream=Michael Bay

    by lost.rules

    How's that loser?

  • May 30, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Re: Jurassic Park and Stargate

    by seagrass

    Flawed but fun movies, I agree. Hell, thanks to Stargate, I have my guilty pleasure Stargate Atlantis to watch. Transformers will have plenty of problems I'm sure, but after seeing the way Starscream jumps, transforms and flies off in the trailer, AND watching Bonecrusher chase down that bus, AND finally hearing Peter Cullen's voice in action again...well, I'll be more than willing to overlook any of them. That's pure junk food for my inner brat.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Your opinion is wrong, telestream

    by Kloipy

    you don't know what you are talking about

  • May 30, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST

    SK...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...everything you just said was a reiteration of what Matty has said. <p> The books you have mentioned, although I've only read about half, I would fathom were much better written and hold their own against the films, than Jaws did. <p> I'm 30, for whatever reason.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Gariel...though he DOES need a script doctor...

    by Brians Life

    Lucas CANNOT be responsible for writing a screenplay anymore. HE got ALOT of help on the original trilogy...credit him with story but he needs help writing dialogue. The prequels are testament to that.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Two roads diverged in a yellow wood

    by RokurGepta

    Willow was originally meant to be a Trilogy, but the studio forced Lucas to hack the story to pieces into a single film. <p> For you Willow fans, you know Lucas co-authored some sequels in book form "Shadow Moon" "Shadow Dawn" Shadow Star" <p> oh and I frakin loved "Howard the Duck"

  • May 30, 2007, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Matty...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...no, I'm pretty sure in the interview on the DVD Spielberg admits he was forced to use a Hitchcockian approach because the shark backfired.

  • May 30, 2007, 1:56 p.m. CST

    No.

    by Telestream

    Opinions CAN'T be wrong. Because people have them inside. MY opinion is that Lucas made Logan's Run. You don't like it? Well tough knuckles! This is America and back off. No need to call people idiots or use the f-bomb. And oh yeah? If I equal Michael Bay, then I must equal AWESOME! (Zing! Comeback! Ouch!)

  • May 30, 2007, 1:56 p.m. CST

    IM VERY STOKED ABOUT THIS MOVIE

    by BRUTICUS

    LIE

  • May 30, 2007, 1:57 p.m. CST

    THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO BLOW YOU AWAY!

    by BRUTICUS

    TRUE

  • May 30, 2007, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Howard the Duck

    by lost.rules

    Good movie damn it! Talking smart ass horny duck. Hot Lea Thompson. Geeky Tim Robins! Freaky worm thing from outer space! What more could you want?

  • May 30, 2007, 2 p.m. CST

    The only thing that could have saved Willow

    by seagrass

    would have been to shelve it. God, I hated that flick. As kids, we used to call Kilmer's character "Madfartagain." We were so original.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Looks like a DEPARTED ripoff

    by J-Dizzle

    Trailer looks good.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Brian's Life...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...is quite correct; all of Lucas' truly successful, good films have begun with his spark and the assistance of others, like Larry Kasdan on Raiders of the Lost Ark - my FAVORITE Lucas creation - hell that's where half my screenname here comes from! <p> Spielberg's hands should be kept off scripts, though. The first season of SeaQuest was excellent - a great science-fact show. When the network didn't allow it to find it viewership, Spielberg messed things up by wanting script apporoval and upping the sci-fi junk (the giant alligator thawed from the arctic; the man-eating plant; the whole SeaQuest on an alien-waterworld). By the time Spielberg's damage was done, Roy Schieder wanted nothing to do with, Spieberg walked away from his own mess, and I'm not sure, but I think even Amblin dumped it on the third season. <p> I quit half-way through Two.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:02 p.m. CST

    My grammar is terrible

    by seagrass

    today. I've been spending too much time reading Talkbacks, and now I am corrupted.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Cadillac Jones

    by Mattyboy122

    Haven't seen the doc, so I'll take your word for it. I was thinking mainly about the Vertigo shot, which has been repeated in a few of his subsequent films.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Brian's Life...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...is quite correct; all of Lucas' truly successful, good films have begun with his spark and the assistance of others, like Larry Kasdan on Raiders of the Lost Ark - my FAVORITE Lucas creation - hell that's where half my screenname here comes from! <p> Spielberg's hands should be kept off scripts, though. The first season of SeaQuest was excellent - a great science-fact show. When the network didn't allow it to find it viewership, Spielberg messed things up by wanting script apporoval and upping the sci-fi junk (the giant alligator thawed from the arctic, the man-eating plant and my personal fave - the whole SeaQuest on an alien-waterworld). By the time Spielberg's damage was done, Roy Schieder wanted nothing to do with it, Spielberg walked away from his own mess, and I'm not sure, but I think even Amblin dumped it on the third season. <p> I quit half-way through Two.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:03 p.m. CST

    What is this? A George Lucas debate?

    by Yack Backer

    I can't keep up with this TB. At least the shouting has died down a bit.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:03 p.m. CST

    well telestream

    by Kloipy

    If you want to believe that someone did something that never really happened and there is evidence to prove it then yes, your opinion is wrong.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Errr....1941 was not the only flop Steven had...

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    and I don't mean flop in a financial sense. But in an ultra big suckage kind of sense. Other annoying suckage-achievements by Mr. Overrat...err...Spielberg:<p>Minority Report (lame)<p>A.I. (godawful)<p>Amistad (laughable)<p>Always (obnoxious)<p>Lost World (crappy borefest)<p>Hook (stupid kids flick) <p>I guess I just made new enemies...

  • May 30, 2007, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Kloipy

    by Telestream

    Your logic is flawed. But assume for a second that it's not flawed = the opinion you expressed in your last post is also WRONG. (How's that feel?)

  • May 30, 2007, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Yack Backer

    by Cadillac Jones

    We're discussing Star Wars Transformers and how the Obi-Wan Transformer has a robo-beard that apparently represents wisdom in elder robots, if I read some earlier posts above correctly, in regards to the cartoon Transformers having beards on Cybertron.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Fanaticism

    by Lawguy

    Did I spell that right? <p> Anyway, over 300 talkbacks for a TV spot? <p> Does anyone else read them all at this point?

  • May 30, 2007, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Minority Report

    by zb.brox

    was fantastic. Seriously. And I liked Hook, but, y'know, I was a kid at the time it came out. <p>The Lost World was pretty unforgivable, though.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:08 p.m. CST

    how is my logic flawed?

    by Kloipy

    Lucas didn't direct Logan's Run. The guy who directed Orca directed Logan's Run.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Munich,Minority Report,Schindler's List,E.T.,Jaws....

    by lost.rules

    Jurassic Park, Close Encounters, Raiders of the Lost Ark....uh yeah. We can forgive Spielberg when he makes a bad flick, cause he's made so many great ones. Bay on the other hand.......

  • May 30, 2007, 2:10 p.m. CST

    No Enemy made her, Motoko...

    by Cadillac Jones

    I will disagree with you on Lost World; I thoroughly enjoyed it but when it comes to dinosaurs I have tunnel-view and tend to ignore things like "plot" in those movies. <p> Someone mentioned Godzilla above. <p> I guess it was only a matter of time before that old chestnut surfaced. I personally loved it and have it in my collection; it did everything a Godzilla movie was suppossed to do: had a big, reptilian monster tear-assing through a major city, fighting the Army and raising al sorts of hell. <p> Yes - the dialogue was utter-shit. <p> Yes - the baby Godzilla-raptors were a rip-off. <p> But the FX were some pretty nice eye-candy, still hold up well, and I enjoyed it on that level. <p> Why can't people just have FUN anymore?

  • May 30, 2007, 2:12 p.m. CST

    OH MY GOD!!!

    by Telestream

    Orca the giant shark movie?!!! That was SPEILBERG, man!! Try checking the interweb before you jump all over other people with your "opinions". This AICN netsite is becoming really nasty and aggressive lately :( (frown face)

  • May 30, 2007, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Ignore Telestream

    by lost.rules

    He's a fucktard! He probably still thinks Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. Afterall, it's his OPINION!

  • May 30, 2007, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Haters

    by taekwondave

    Seriously, all of you are outnumbered. You want your original-perfect-on-screen-adaptation of a movie? Go watch Scooby Doo!

  • May 30, 2007, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Spielberg

    by Mattyboy122

    Minority Report was going great until the last 10 mins or so. God, that happy ending was cringe-inducing. But up until then, that was some quality, dark sci-fi shit right there. I'm actually one of the few (or at least it seems like a few) that likes A.I. quite a bit. Sure, it has some problems, but I liked it overall. Haven't seen Amistad. Always wasn't terrible, but it seemed sort of unnecessary. Lost World is not only Spielberg's worst movie, it's a bad movie in general. And Hook. What more can be said of Hook? It's an interesting idea, but the execution is pretty awful. But he has made some really great movies, too. What's unfortunate is that the man seems to be force-feeding us Shia LeBeouf. If Shia is playing Indy's son in the next film, God Himself couldn't make that film work, much less the Berg. If Shia is just some pansy sidekick, it could work, but it'd require Spielberg to totally kick ass in every other respect. But yeah, it's too bad about Indy 4, because I was really looking forward to it before Shia was announced as a cast member.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:15 p.m. CST

    DON'T YOU DARE--

    by Telestream

    bring October 11th into this.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:15 p.m. CST

    "haters"

    by lionbiu

    GOD FUCKING DAMN THAT STUPID WORD...ITS A FUCKING STUPID WORD USED WHEN SOMEONE CANT DEBATE WITH SOMEONE WITH A OPPOSING OPINION!!!

  • May 30, 2007, 2:16 p.m. CST

    oops.

    by Telestream

    September, I mean.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Stupiders

    by lost.rules

    Seriously, you got the numbers. If you hurry now, you can get in line and wait for Bay's new suckfest to come out. It's only a month away. Hurry Retards!

  • May 30, 2007, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Re: Minority Report

    by seagrass

    was a great movie, right up until Spielberg chickened out at the end. If he had taken the darker route, I think the movie would have been much better...but audiences would have hated it.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:19 p.m. CST

    more beard discussion

    by prime lips

    please, the more i think about them the more i like them. so why did scourge have on? evilwise?

  • May 30, 2007, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Wow, Cadillac

    by seagrass

    I liked Godzilla In Name Only, too. Except for the baby Godzillas. I was always hoping for a sequel, where one of the surviving Godzillas mutates, sprouts wings, and turns into RODAN. Rodan was a badass. Both of them were.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:22 p.m. CST

    I seem to remember that

    by seagrass

    I seem to remember that Cyclonus has a pimptastic goatee.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Cadillac Jones

    by Yack Backer

    Robots with beards? Fascinating!

  • May 30, 2007, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Hmm, I really can't see what was good about

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    MINORITY REPORT. The look maybe. And some fx. I really wanted to like it back then but the story, the pacing, the weird undecided jumping from drama to comedy, the lame ending and lots of other little things just made it impossible for me to like.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Maybe Primus--

    by zb.brox

    --was humanoid, and wrote beard-like protuberances into the Transformers' genetic "code" as it were. It's not like Transformers really evolve,d they were built one way or the other, they could be designed to mimic people.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:25 p.m. CST

    ok now you jackasses are praising "Godzilla"?

    by Ricky Henderson

    That's it, I give up, I'm outa here.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Not Cyclonus...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...whats-hiz-nuts, there...Scourge? Scourge! Yeah. He totally stole Batman's batmobile-wing-fin-thingies.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:27 p.m. CST

    cadillac

    by lionbiu

    although I like the sentiment...I cant forgive you for defending Godzilla. That movie was awful..so much hype and one of the best marketing campaigns imaginable and it fucked up badly. What says you cant have fun at a movie with intelligence, a great script and great characters...I had more fun watching 'The Thing' on cable two nights back than I did watching Spider-man 3 and Pirates 3 in the cinema.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Ricky...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...see? You're taking these things waaaaaaaay too seriously. <p> Godzilla was fun. <p> Gigli? Not so much.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Cyclonus

    by seagrass

    Check it: skinny beard, goatee. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b4/Cyclonus_alt.jpg

  • May 30, 2007, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Zen, my not so humble opinion and American Godzilla

    by RokurGepta

    Umm.... if anyone hated Godzilla because it was a cheezy $#!+fest, I question if you have seen any of the original Godzilla movies. The Mathew Broderick Godzilla was Awesome!!! It was perfect, it was exactly what it was supposed to be. <p> HUGS TO EVERYONE

  • May 30, 2007, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Oh shit, I missed that Ricky! GODZILLA praise???

    by Yack Backer

    For shame, people.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Oh god please no!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    The annoying Gabriel kid is back.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Lion...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...but in the same turn, why does something have to be extremely deep and intellectual to be fun? As I've stated, there's more then enough room to like something dumb as well as something smart. <p> I make no apologies for my film tastes, but at least they are broad and defined to one single genre or style. <p> I like Citizen Kane as well as all the old Universal Monster flicks. <p> Godzilla isn't as cringe-inducing as some of the intellectual snobs here would have you believe.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Why is everyone excited about this movie?

    by The Central Scrutinizer

    It's going to be another CGI shitfest from Michael "The Hack" Bay.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Well..

    by seagrass

    I'm not really defending Godzilla. It was stupid, but fun. they probably should have called it something else...it was more like a remake of The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms to me. GINO was kind of a pussy, too. The real Godzilla would never have gotten stuck in a damn suspension bridgehell, the real Godzilla would never have fit on a suspension bridge. Still, it had its moments...just like Phantom Menace did, which was a hell of a lot more disappointing than GINO.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Nostalgia is a fanboy's kryptonite

    by ash_nyc_chelsea

    I have been reading the posts in talkbacks for several years now and I have recognized a pattern that never fails. People glorify the past. Star Wars IV, Raiders, ET, etc.... Yes they were great films and all came out in the late seventies and eighties but do you also remember how many BAD films were also made back then. Maybe Transformers won't be as good as ET or Star Wars but I highly doubt it will be as bad as the horrendous sci-fi films of 2 decades ago like Robocop and many others which I cannot remember right now. My point is don't you think that on an average there are better more varied films being made today than decades ago when a good sci-fi/fantasy film came out once every few years. Star Wars, ET, and the "classics" are the milestones and groundwork for today's science-fiction. Transformers and Spiderman 3 may not be genius but they will be hell of a lot better than Superman IV or He-Man the Movie. Why doesn't anybody realize this.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:34 p.m. CST

    SIZE DOES MATTER!

    by lost.rules

    Godzilla:1985, now that was a good movie.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:34 p.m. CST

    One of Spielberg's problems

    by Mattyboy122

    Is that he often equates the grosses of his movies with their quality. A.I. wasn't a box office smash (it did make its money back, but it wasn't the big hit Spielberg had hoped it would be) and he now doesn't like the film very much. This unfortunately causes him to be a guy who doesn't take a whole bunch of risks. Sure, Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan were risks, but the sweeping sentimentality in his films is largely the byproduct of wanting his movies to be liked. So, I guess as an extension of this, if Transformers makes a lot of money, one might expect sequels produced by the Berg, for better or worse.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Robocop=horrendous????

    by seagrass

    You just crossed the line, buddy-boy.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Post deleted?

    by Mister Man

    Strange.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Godzilla (1998) and praise/awesome/fun

    by just pillow talk

    should NOT be used in the same sentence, even in jest. It was bad, bad, bad. And I am by no means an "intellectual snob".

  • May 30, 2007, 2:35 p.m. CST

    nope

    by lionbiu

    the original Godzilla movies were fun/cheese the remake was crap/shit/cheesey shit. They tried to explain what Godzilla was and how he formed...WHY?!!? Why does everything have to be explained? Add to that the disgustingly bad acting, the crappy script, the crappy action sequences which were ripped off several better movies and you get a shitty film which never reached its potential and did 'alright' at the box office.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Whoa whoa whoa-- "Robocop = horrendous"?!!!

    by Telestream

    Your opinion is WRONG. Robocop = Siegel's best film (except for Magnum Force)

  • May 30, 2007, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Robocop was bad?

    by lost.rules

    You, miss, have lost all your credibility.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Flames on Optimus=fanboy kryptonite

    by seagrass

    Too bad it doesn't actually kill them...it actually makes them stronger.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Reserving judgement until I see hi-res scans...

    by PUSSY ON OPTIMUS

    ...of that gaping bot-slot on Prime. I'm not throwing down good money for CGI machine poon that hasn't been rendered enough or is only slightly less blocky and more realistic than the 80's cartoon version...which was designed only to sell toys.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:37 p.m. CST

    I don't think "fun"...

    by zb.brox

    ...should be an excuse for shoddy film-making. Spider-Man and Fantastic Four were both "fun", but Fantastic Four sucked and Spider-Man didn't. Jurassic Park and The Lost World were both "fun", but The Lost World sucked and Jurassic Park didn't. Empire Strikes Back and Attack of the Clones were both "fun"... etc. etc.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Seagrass

    by Cadillac Jones

    Yeah okay - some of those pics look beardy. Some - not so much. But s'all good. Robo-beards are in. <p> Thanks, Ash-NYC. I had completely forgotten Superman IV until now...you asshole. ;) <p> Godzilla 85 WAS awesome! Those sailors at the beginning got attacked by by Godzilla's giant mutated lice. How cool izzat?!

  • May 30, 2007, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Seagrass

    by lost.rules

    I can't stop laughing. Thank you, sir.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:39 p.m. CST

    excellent

    by Necromunda

    Dialog sounds like every other Bay film, shit. If I cut that trailer I would use as little talking as possible. More big 'plosions n' stuff. Because thats like Totaly Awesome Dude...

  • May 30, 2007, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Wait, laughing at what?

    by seagrass

    The fanboy comment or the fact thet GINO is a guilty pleasure of mine? Probably both, heh.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Pillow!!!!!!

    by Kloipy

    Sorry I was gone for so long. Had to do some marketing for FTB

  • May 30, 2007, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Godzilla was just like the originals...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...with CGI instead of a rubber-suit. Dispute it all you want. <p> Robocop was fantastic! It was an adult comic book and I savored every gory, hyper-violent moment of it. <p> Robocop 2 was afterbirth. <p> Robocop 3... <p> ...what were talking about? Batman & Robin?

  • May 30, 2007, 2:43 p.m. CST

    yo Kloipy!

    by just pillow talk

    Your efforts are very much appreciated by "The Bates".

  • May 30, 2007, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Yeah, ash_nyc_chelsea, stay away from the Angelica

    by Yack Backer

    You're overdosing on arts-house arrogance. ROBOCOP is a great film.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST

    I don't like Necromunda...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...but I do like Mordheim. Is that bad?

  • May 30, 2007, 2:45 p.m. CST

    I've always wanted to say this:

    by seagrass

    "Goddamn you, Michael Bay." Now I'm a true Talkbacker.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:45 p.m. CST

    I wonder if

    by seagrass

    Megatron is uncircumsized in his Protoform?

  • May 30, 2007, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Godzilla:1985, Howard the Duck

    by lost.rules

    Have to find these movies some where and watch them again. Robocop is better than Terminator. Oh, yeah. I went there.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Micheal Bay and Jorge Lucas...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...both tag-teamed my childhoods in an orgy of blood! Not really, I was just following Seagrass...

  • May 30, 2007, 2:48 p.m. CST

    guilty pleasure films

    by Kloipy

    PCU, Good Burger, Monster Squad, Freaked, Driving Miss Daisy

  • May 30, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Cadillac Jones

    by Necromunda

    I'll bring my Cawdor if you bring your Orlock.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Lawn power equipment at 8am

    by chrth

    This is valid on workdays. Get a real job. It's only on weekends and holidays that you're supposed to wait until 10am.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:50 p.m. CST

    guilty pleasuring films

    by chrth

    my tutor, private school, excalibur

  • May 30, 2007, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Dark Horse Comics...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...made a terminator vs. Robocop comic, which I think Acclaim made into a game for the Super Nintendo. <p> Couldn't tell you anything about it, but there was an AWESOME gag in Tremors 3 where whats-hiz-nuts, the dad from Family Ties, walks into a grocery store and on the comic rack he sees some Dark Horse titles... <p> Graboids... <p> Shriekers... <p> Graboids vs. Shriekers.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:51 p.m. CST

    lost.rules

    by seagrass

    is clearly delusional. The only thing better about Robocop is the fact that Kurtwood Smith in it.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Terminator: The Burning Earth

    by seagrass

    One of the best licensed titles I've ever read, and still some of the best work Dark Horse ever released. THAT was how I envisioned the 3rd Terminator movie...now, those are my hopes for the 4th.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Necromunda

    by Cadillac Jones

    It's on like Donkey Kong, beeeeeyatch! <p> Awesome! We have some gaming nerds among us! Very cool. <p> Tyranids will fuck your shit up, believe-you-me!

  • May 30, 2007, 2:53 p.m. CST

    more!

    by Kloipy

    ticks, kung pow, The Neverending Story

  • May 30, 2007, 2:55 p.m. CST

    guity pleasure film

    by chrth

    Center Stage

  • May 30, 2007, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Seagrass...

    by Cadillac Jones

    You ever watch Politically Incorrect when it was on? There was an AWESOME one where Chevy Chase, Kurtwood Smith , NYPD Blue creator John Bronconto(sp?) and some bitch I never heard of was on. <p> Anyhoo...long story short, the Bronconto(sp) dude was a complete asshole and shot down both Chevy and Kurtwood, saying "Chevy, I saw Vegas Vacation - it sucked. And Kurtwood - you were the bad guy in Robocop so shut the hell up!"

  • May 30, 2007, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Ticks...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...is indeed a guilty pleasure because Amie Dolenz was in it. She was quite yummy back in the early 90's.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Some of My Guilty Pleasures

    by RokurGepta

    Time Bandits, Cloak & Dagger, The Neverending Story, Howard The Duck, Clash of the Titans, Dragonslayer, Meaning of Life....

  • May 30, 2007, 2:58 p.m. CST

    I saw that one

    by seagrass

    That got some serious laughter.

  • May 30, 2007, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Dragonslayer is NOT a guilty pleasure...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...that movie seriously rocks hard! <p> Dragonheart, on the other hand...

  • May 30, 2007, 3 p.m. CST

    My Science Project

    by seagrass

    is guilty of many things.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:01 p.m. CST

    RokurGepta--

    by zb.brox

    Half those movies are actually good, though. No reason to feel guilty about them.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:01 p.m. CST

    In fact, Rokur...

    by Cadillac Jones

    Of that list - the only guilty pleasures I see are Cloak & Dagger and Howard the Duck...all the others rock!

  • May 30, 2007, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Also--

    by zb.brox

    Is there any semi-definitive word on whether that voice actually IS Bumblebee, in contradiction to the earlier review and what people've said of the script? I know some people think it's actually Optimus, but I don't really hear Cullen in there...

  • May 30, 2007, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Time Bandits and Cloak & Dagger

    by seagrass

    and D.A.R.Y.L. were fantastic when I was a kid. Also, Flight of the Navigator!

  • May 30, 2007, 3:03 p.m. CST

    OMG

    by RokurGepta

    I heart "My Science Project"

  • May 30, 2007, 3:05 p.m. CST

    seagrass--

    by zb.brox

    Man, I'd like to see D.A.R.Y.L. and Flight of the Navigator again. I haven't seen either since I was about 10.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Nostalgia

    by RokurGepta

    remember the cartoon "Dungeons & Dragons" <p> I wish I could by that complete series on DVD

  • May 30, 2007, 3:05 p.m. CST

    chrth

    by Sir Loin

    Agreed (Center Stage)

  • May 30, 2007, 3:06 p.m. CST

    This is ME talking about GUILTY PLEASURES

    by Brians Life

    What is the definition of guilty pleasures? I always assumed they were the movies you didn't want your friends to know you liked...but I'm seeing flicks like TIME BANDITS and CLASH OF THE TITANS & Monty Python?!? Those aren't guilty pleasures...THESE are guilty pleasures...THE SWEETEST THING, NIGHT OF THE CREEPS, THE MAN WITHOUT A FACE...oh, and ROBOCOP was the shit. Was when I was 8, still is.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:07 p.m. CST

    My Science Project

    by seagrass

    The title song for that movie equals "The Touch" from TF: The Movie in badness. "It's my sciiience projeeeeeect"

  • May 30, 2007, 3:09 p.m. CST

    I Wish I Could Buy Stock In This Movie

    by cowboyone

    This will demolish Spiderman's and Pirates Box Office.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:09 p.m. CST

    This is ME talking about my shitty last post...

    by Brians Life

    Day off. Rather high. Typing fast. Robocop is NOT a guilty pleasure...but here are a few more...Legally Blonde, Down with Love, The Life of David Gale, The last boyscout (and I don't even think THAT's guilty)

  • May 30, 2007, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Sadly

    by seagrass

    Transformers will not demolish either of those records. Only Harry Potter has a chance at doing so.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:11 p.m. CST

    D.A.R.Y.L., The Last Starfighter, Flight of the...

    by lost.rules

    Navigator, That Gorilla movie with Matthew Broderick, Short Circuit, Romancing the Stone, Batteries Not Included, Killbots, Child's Play, Darkman, Escape from New York, Golden Child, Goonies, The Thing, Can't Buy Me Love, Monster Squad, and so forth

  • May 30, 2007, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Rokur...

    by Cadillac Jones

    You can. Go to Amazon.com <p> $30 for the whole taco. <p> Now if only they'd release Inhumanoids and Mighty Orbots.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:12 p.m. CST

    I hated Darkman

    by seagrass

    but loved The Golden Child. "I-I-I-I want the kniiiiife"

  • May 30, 2007, 3:12 p.m. CST

    when I was in high school

    by RokurGepta

    people made fun of me for owning Time Bandits, Clash of the Titans, and yes I'm hella shocked, but people made fun of me for owning Meaning of Life... since then I've put those movies in my "Private" collection

  • May 30, 2007, 3:13 p.m. CST

    That Gorilla Movie...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...starring Ferris Bueller and Helen Cunt was Project X.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Oh, and all those movies we're nostalgic for....

    by lost.rules

    will get remade into crappy, inferior films in the very near future. I'm looking at you, Rob Zombie!

  • May 30, 2007, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Life's too short...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...to worry about what people think of your movie tastes, dude. <p> Unless...y'know...its some shit like "Debbie Does 101 Dalmations" <p> Then yeah - keep that BEHIND the titles in the cupboard.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:15 p.m. CST

    When did Bumblebee get a deep voice?

    by LordEnigma

    Seriously? Bumblebee is a bad ass now? Really? Good lord, that's hilarious. Good going Michael Bay!

  • May 30, 2007, 3:16 p.m. CST

    RokurGepta--

    by zb.brox

    You went to high school with some assholes. Only explanation.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:17 p.m. CST

    well I did go to a private christian high school

    by RokurGepta

    and that messed with my head for years.....YEARS.... </br> YEARS

  • May 30, 2007, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Rokur...& anyone remember MIRACLE MILE

    by Brians Life

    I hear ya...but in the same vein people in high school made fun of me 'cause I used to READ BOOKS! What a concept! On a guilty pleasure note, anyone remember MIRACLE MILE with Anthony Edwards and Mare Winninghame. It was about a man (Edwards) that gets a phone call accidentally telling him that the US is about to enter a nuclear war with the USSR...for an obscure flick I caught on HBO and downloaded a few months ago...top notch.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Ahhhhh

    by zb.brox

    It all makes sense now.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:21 p.m. CST

    perfect example of how crappy my school was

    by RokurGepta

    in junior high, I got in trouble for bringing "A Wrinkle in Time" to school to read during lunch.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Miracle Mile...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...Kurt Fuller when he runs out on the roof and says "That thing's going all the way to Tija-fucking-uana!"

  • May 30, 2007, 3:21 p.m. CST

    rickyhenderson

    by slkboxrman

    first off, STFU... second, this is the internet..and not typing out whole words and punctuating correctly is not an estimate of education or intelligence. this isnt a resume for a prospective employer so get off your well punctuated throne and lay off.... and anyone that has read that years old script knows its years old and has since stopped referencing it. there are 20 action pieces in the film as opposed to only 5 in spiderman 3....i dont think all 20 will fit into the space of 20 min at the end of the movie...and even robert orci said that reading a script is misleading due to the fact that a whole scene of 15 or 20 min of action can be summarized in one or two sentences....anyone that likes the movie is not a PLANT, some of us actually arent as anal as the minority of you are now...the movie will undoubtedly break spider man 3s record....i believe that even more since pirates 3 couldnt beat pirates 2 opening weekend....thats not good....sequels are not bringing in what they used to, transformers will set marks that wont be broken for a long time... u must be fuming....OMG no capital letters, no apostrophes, take a zanax like u usually do...peace

  • May 30, 2007, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Guilty Pleasure?

    by RokurGepta

    the tv show "The Tomorrow People"

  • May 30, 2007, 3:28 p.m. CST

    RokurGepta--

    by zb.brox

    That's fucked up. I also have a fucked up story about A Wrinkle in Time! <p>My fiance went to a shitty public school outside Detroit. She took a "Modern Novels" class her senior year. Her teacher assigned them A Wrinkle In Time--a book I read in the 4th grade for school. Now, nothing wrong with lighter reading, and that whole series does go some weird places and get kinda complicated.<p>But get this.<p>I shit you not, they didn't just READ the book--the teacher had them read along to the book on tape in class. Fucking 17 and 18 year olds sitting there listening to A WRINKLE IN TIME during class for god knows how many weeks. Because she didn't trust them to read it on their own. How fucked is that?

  • May 30, 2007, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Slkoxrman...nah uh

    by Brians Life

    You're entitled to believe what you want about Transformers...but I highly doubt that it will have a Spidey 3 performance at the box office. Just NOT gonna happen. Most of the people I know that aren't fanboys couldn't really give a fuck about it. Not only that, I feel word of mouth is gonna REALLY hurt it. Spider-Man 3 was a movie everyone felt that HAD to see because Spidey 2 was so enjoyable, some people still remember how much THE ISLAND sucked..and in film circles people KNOW Bay is a coked up lunatic that should be directing Aerosmith videos.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:34 p.m. CST

    slkboxrman--

    by zb.brox

    Dude, if you think TF is gonna break Spidey-3's record, you're dreaming. I agree it might do very well, but that just isn't gonna happen. Look, mo movie Michael Bay has ever done has grossed more than about 200 million bucks--and Bay has been making movies just like this one for a long time. I admit, this may be his most successful movie ever--it's got a built-in fanbase his other flicks didn't. But how big is that fanbase really? I live in Boston, with about 500,000 people aged 18-30, and I've yet to see any trailer or commercial for this movie get the same kind of applause that Harry Potter or even Die Hard does. Hell, I've heard people start booing the second Bay's name comes on the screen. I will not be surprised if this flick makes 250 million, even 300 million--but 150 mil in 3 days? Not a chance.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:37 p.m. CST

    The Tomorrow People!

    by seagrass

    Great show (and a great band in the 90s!). I even have the soundtrack! My favorite episode: the one with the giant, pink bubbles that chased people around.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Iron Giant would kick their bot asses

    by Syd Mead

    There's not enough out there to call this retarded (mentally challenged) yet so this has not dropped off my viewing list. Oh...80's cheese. Re-Animator, Night Of The Comet, Horror-Vision, Space Hunter: Adventures In The Forbidden Zone, Yor: Hunter From The Future... THAT was a decade for nacho-cheesy good flicks. When's the last time a movie title used : after the name????

  • May 30, 2007, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Syd Mead--

    by zb.brox

    I dunno, I seem to remember some movie... what's it... Pirates Of the Caribbean: At World's End, maybe? ;)

  • May 30, 2007, 3:43 p.m. CST

    This is ME talking about MICHAEL BAY

    by Brians Life

    For those that want to work in the film industry, I hear there is no one better AND worse to work for than Bay. He's apparently a gigantic cock on set, and downright insulting if something is not going right (which happens 50% of the time) BUT he shoots with no breaks so crew cleans up on overtime and meal penalties. I know guys who have bought cars off of their meal penalties on a 2 month Bay shoot.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Year of the Comet vs. Night of the Comet

    by seagrass

    Wine and cheese or zombies and cheese?

  • May 30, 2007, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Brians Life--

    by zb.brox

    So, essentially, if you're willing to get paid a shitload of money to be abused by your employer for a few months, he's the guy to go to? Interesting.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:50 p.m. CST

    bumblebee was holding

    by prime lips

    the hellraiser box. shia is about to enter a world of pain.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Its kind of like a Greenhouse in here...

    by tehgreekhammer

    what with all these plants in here. <p> I bet if you go over to the Don Murphy (is a hack) site, there will be hardly any activity over the past few days. <p> It seems all those pole smokers have made a concerted effort to come over here and praise the shit out of michael bay and this POS. <p> so sad...

  • May 30, 2007, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Comets, and the 80's

    by RokurGepta

    Remember the episode of "Benson" when a comet came, and turned everyone to dust? <p> and the episode of the Cosby show, if I remember correctly a comet flew over, and men became pregnant, and Dr. Huxtable gave birth to a submarine sandwich? <p> lolz

  • May 30, 2007, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Prime Lips...

    by tehgreekhammer

    If only he was holding the Hellraiser Box. <p> then you might be able to explain how Shia LaQueef is able to kill Megatron.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:53 p.m. CST

    primelips

    by lost.rules

    very funny. hope it's true

  • May 30, 2007, 3:54 p.m. CST

    zb.brox...ain't it always the way?

    by Brians Life

    Sadly his movies make enough money that producers already factor his workstyle into the budget...they just accept that he's going to go over 12 hours and he's not gonna break for meals. AD's don't even try to tame him. He's like Paris Hilton.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Remember this Movie?

    by RokurGepta

    http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0087451/ <p> Guilty Pleasure or Not? <p> Someone should make a website "Guilty Pleasure or Not", i.e. "Hot or Not" <p> thoughts?

  • May 30, 2007, 3:56 p.m. CST

    it does look like

    by slappy jones

    a majority of the action takes place at one time..allthe money stuff seems to be in the same setting...same time....but it looks fucking amazing

  • May 30, 2007, 3:56 p.m. CST

    I wonder if I can get paid to watch Mike Bay's movies

    by Yack Backer

    I mean doing it the other way around sounds terribly foolish!

  • May 30, 2007, 3:56 p.m. CST

    He's like Paris Hilton...

    by tehgreekhammer

    But with a little less cocaine in his system. Which is still enought o kill a Pygmie Elephant.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Remember that Hogan Family when they became Zombies...

    by Brians Life

    Can't remember if it was Pre or Post Sandy Duncan....MAN, did she suck.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Tehgreekhammer likes it Greek style

    by seagrass

    It takes a pole smoker to know a pole smoker. Trust me, if the movie sucks, I'll be on here the next day proclaiming its suckiness. Being an intelligent person, I'll reserve judging something until I actually *see* it...unlike you children who constantly parrot each other all day with gems such as: "Michael Bay sucks! Goddamn you Michael Bay! Lick my taint Michael Bay! Michael Bay ate my fetus!" All you know how to do is proclaim how much something sucks, without any reasonable argument or evidence show *why* it sucks.

  • May 30, 2007, 3:57 p.m. CST

    greenlight GI Joe

    by stvnhthr

    Will someone please greenlight GI Joe already? Can we start a talkback with our ideal cast of actors and characters. I'll start it off with casting Josh Holloway as Shipwreck, who wants to go next?

  • May 30, 2007, 3:59 p.m. CST

    so reading the script

    by tehgreekhammer

    and thinking that it sucks, doesnt constitute a reasonable argument for why I think this movies going to suck?

  • May 30, 2007, 4 p.m. CST

    Paris Hilton>Michael Bay

    by lost.rules

    At least she's going to jail. At least her movie is better than all of Bay's stuff combined.

  • May 30, 2007, 4 p.m. CST

    Seagrass--

    by zb.brox

    If someone thinks every movie Michael Bay has made until now sucks, the script sucks, the designs suck, the cast sucks, and the publicly stated choices of theme and plotline suck, that isn't enough for them to be reasonably convinced the film will suck? I mean, you should always hold out hope that you'll be pleasantly surprised, but I didn't go see Delta Farce or Epic Movie on that off-chance.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:01 p.m. CST

    PArdon me

    by tehgreekhammer

    for not cumming in my pants because there are explosions in this movie. <p> explosions, and giant blurry robots, and a pair or glasses, and Shia Laboof

  • May 30, 2007, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Note:

    by zb.brox

    I'm not quite so negative on the film as the theoretical person I assign all those opinions to, for the record, but not as far off as I'd like.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:03 p.m. CST

    scripts mean nothing

    by Bouncy X

    this is an old "excuse" used a lot here but its true....how many good movies had shitty scripts or vice versa. especially action oriented scripts.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:03 p.m. CST

    I watched Gili

    by lost.rules

    And Glitter. And Swept Away. All 4 star movies. Critics and "haters" are always wrong.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:04 p.m. CST

    No, it doesn't

    by seagrass

    All that does is show a partial argument, with evidence that may or may not have changed in the time it has been in the world. Without seeing the film, I'd like you to: Prove that the effects suck, prove that the voice talent sucks, prove that the actors suck. Goddamn fanboy motherpussbuckets always have to whine about everything, and if something doesn't meet your liking, you automatically insult people who have opposing views. I could care less if you like the film, just quit fucking telling me that I should hate it because you do.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Bouncy X--

    by zb.brox

    But what are the odds a crappy script given to a crappy director will transmogrify into gold? Usually at least one of those elements had to be good for the movie to end up right...

  • May 30, 2007, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Crossroads

    by lost.rules

    Best...Movie...Ever!

  • May 30, 2007, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Seagrass--

    by zb.brox

    1: When did I say anyone else should hate it? 2: You can't "prove" anything, on a fundamental level, you can only establish strong and weak probabilities. All those things stacked together? Strong probabilities. 3: I don't recall insulting anyone regarding TFs, either. Wanna prove I did?

  • May 30, 2007, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Scripts, Acting,Direction,Sound,Music,Effects...

    by lost.rules

    ALL MEAN NOTHING! What truly makes a movie good is the Best Boy Grip. Everything depends on him.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:10 p.m. CST

    zb.brox

    by seagrass

    I don't have any problems with your opinion at all, but how would you like it if someone judged you on your past failures and nothing else? For example, if Tehgreekhammer couldn't get a girl off with his tongue 9 times out of 10, does that mean he won't ever be able to get a girl off, period? I also seem to remember that The Rock is more well-liked rather than hated. Spielberg has had plenty more failures than Michael Bay, but no one constantly shouts to the heavens "Spielberg? That hack fucking directed Hook! I won't ever go see a Spielberg film again!"

  • May 30, 2007, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Im not a Michael Bay hater.

    by tehgreekhammer

    I liked the Rock, I liked Con Air, I liked parts of Armageddon, and think that his car chase scene from Bad Boys 2 is one of the biggest and best ones ever put on film. <p> Is he competely dropping the ball by disregarding the older designs in favor of a mechanical mishmash of stuff? <p> Absotively. <p> Will I pay to see this abortion? <p> hell no. <p> Ill be giving my money to whatever other movie oopens that weekend and sneak into theater showing this and basking in the mediocrity of Shia Laqueefs acting, and thinking about how Harry sold his soul to promote this turd.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Also, zb.brox

    by seagrass

    I was referring to people like Tehgreekhammer, not people such as yourself, who seem to be able to form coherent sentences. I totally respect your opinion, but please, wait until you've seen the movie before you bash it...if you are even interested enough to go in the first place. See where I'm coming from?

  • May 30, 2007, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Seagrass

    by tehgreekhammer

    Your mom only gets off when I give it to her Greekstyle.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Wait until you see the movie before you...

    by tehgreekhammer

    praise it and proclaim it to be the greatest thing since penicillin. <p> Which I also need after sticking it in your moms pooper.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Tehgreekhammer

    by seagrass

    The older designs would never have worked. I'm an old-school TF fan, and I still think that Optimus looked like a pussy in his vehicle form back in the day. Bumblebee looked like a chubby kid holding a pair of doughnuts. The robot designs may be busy, but they look like something that could actually exist in the real world. Now, Skids...there was a REAL Autobot.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:16 p.m. CST

    This movie will BLOW

    by nelwack

    Why am I the only one that sees this for what it is? We're currently watching the Comic Book world getting raped by the movie industy, now they're tapping the whole 80's nostalgia craze. They know you losers who grew up watching MEGATRON giving JOHNNY FIVE a handjob now have disposable income and free movie nights.... you do the math.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:18 p.m. CST

    I've never once

    by seagrass

    proclaimed it to be the best thing ever. I'm just looking forward to it, that's all. But when people like you come in here and insult people like me just for doing so, well, you understand why we get pissed. Having a little optimism goes a long way.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Don't all women

    by seagrass

    get off when you give it to them Greek-style? That's nothing new.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Bumblebee

    by seagrass

    Think I'm wrong about the old-school designs? Put this on a big screen and watch people laugh your ass out of a job. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bumblebee-boxart.jpg

  • May 30, 2007, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Bumblebee redux

    by seagrass

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/59/Bumblebeeflies.jpg Complete and total asstastickery.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:23 p.m. CST

    First off, BIG HUGS TO YOU ALL.

    by pjdon

    I love you each in your own special way. <p>As I have said before this is a pointless argument. You cannot argue over whether Bay is good or not.<p>He makes mass produced cheesy popcorn flicks. Is he good at making these MTV style movies? YES. Can anyone dissagree with that? NO.<p>What you are arguing about is whether you enjoy mass produced MTV style popcorn flicks.<p>I love every type of film from the smallest world cinema piece to the biggest event movie out there. Some people do not.<p>I actually think of it as to different interests altogether. The same part of my brain which enjoys a Bay film is not the same part of my brain which enjoys watching the original Solaris.<p>True a lot of films cross this boundry in someway. You could say that Spiderman and Batman Begins show how small art can come into contact with big ideas and succeed. But there will always be the type of movie which is just pure art and the type of movie which is just pure entertainment.<p>I don't think anyone including myself who enjoys Bay is pretending he is anything more than he is.<p>Was the emotion in Armegeddon mass produced, cheesy, written by 11 people in a big room, shallow, false attempt to tug my heart strings? YES. Did it work? YES. The hairs on my neck stood up and I cried when Bruce died. Sorry if I enjoy having a good cry in a movie. It's as much fun as laughing or being scared in my opinion.<p>This film will have the same false emotion and big action and no-one can say i'm wrong when I say I enjoy that.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:26 p.m. CST

    I have a feeling...

    by Heckles

    ...that behind this trailer, there is more than meets the eye. Ugh, I hate myself for that. That was on par with Prime's flames, Greedo shooting first and Harry's reviews.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Am I caving in?

    by RokurGepta

    or what? It seems the more trailers I watch for Transformers, the more I am actually starting to crave watching the movie, I need my transformers fix damn it, and Independence Day is just too god damn far away. where is the advance screener damn it? <p> on another note "Ice Pirates" Guilty Pleasure or not?

  • May 30, 2007, 4:31 p.m. CST

    That's Peter Cullen's voice!

    by Nick Michalak

    Just because it's Bumblebee on the screen, you fucking TransFans should know the voice of Optimus Prime / Peter Cullen! It's deeper than it was back in the mid-80s, but that's his voice. Not to mention, Bumblebee's voice capacitor is damaged back on Cybertron - before the film begins. Bumblebee communicates in a very non-vocal, unorthodox manner throughout the movie. Check your facts, fellas!

  • May 30, 2007, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Bearded Transformers = Nipples on Batsuit

    by finky089

    Let's hope Michael Bay decides to include such memorable Auotbots as Wheelie and Blurr in TINO: Part 2 Tokyo Drift.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:32 p.m. CST

    And hi Robertsilence, - what is going down

    by pjdon

    in Club Neil tonight? Cocktails at 9? Yes please. Oh and welcome to the club lost.rules. Sorry if you could just remove your shoes before you come in. Sorry? What? Oh no I'll put them in the closet with the rest of the shoes. What's that? Who's the boy in the corner? He's our club retard. Yes you can take him to the zoo.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Alpha Trion had a fumanchu thing going on!

    by Yack Backer

    http://tinyurl.com/2lvxjp

  • May 30, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST

    TISNF

    by RokurGepta

    I havn't been invited to any club :(

  • May 30, 2007, 4:36 p.m. CST

    meltedfacetoht I don't think anyone

    by pjdon

    expects this film to be anything better than say Armaggedon or Bad Boys 2. You can say they are shit films but thats like me saying all musicals are shit just becasue they are not my taste (which they are). We are not expecting for Bay to have improved or changed in any way.<p>It's a case of 15 - 20% of Tbers who simply don't care and will sit back and watch a Bay flick.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:36 p.m. CST

    pjdon, you rock

    by seagrass

    Thanks for the positive input. We need a Word Processor of the Gods, just for all the fanboys on here. "DELETE FANBOYS." I wonder if I would vanish as well?

  • May 30, 2007, 4:37 p.m. CST

    tehgreekhammer, Simon West directed CON AIR

    by Yack Backer

    Not Bay. But it was a Bruckheimer movie. What's funny is that most people think Bay directed CON AIR, which in my mind tells me he is both imitable and repetitive.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Con Air was a good movie

    by lost.rules

    That's how you can tell that Michael Bay didn't direct it.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Re: Bumblebee's dialogue

    by seagrass

    That's still better than anything he said in the 80's cartoons.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST

    RokurGepta you'll have to ask Silence -

    by pjdon

    I currently hold head chair in "The Neil Cumpston to review everything" club. But silence makes the choices. But come in and I'll say he must have been drunk and let you in then forgot. That always works with people. take off your shoes though.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Bumblebee doesn't talk?

    by mondoz2

    WTF? Bumblebee doesn't actually talk? Is that right? That's more annoying than the flames, the lips, or your mom. But not your mom's lips.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    This is ME talking about BAY

    by Brians Life

    He's not yet made a good movie. Why are we still arguing about this?!? He's directed a couple of cool scenes in his entire career. Remember that scene in ARMAGEDDON when they're getting the psyche test....ohhhhhh...how tired. Oh, the big black man is asking for a hug and weeping...comedy gold. I cried at the end of Where A Red Fern Grows, The Yearling, and Man Without A Face....but ARMA-fuckin'-GEDDON!?! I don't think Liv Tyler has a soul.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Con Air is no more crddible than

    by pjdon

    anything Bay has done. I do love it though and its is possibly one of my most re-watched films. So much fun when your drunk.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Sorry I meant Credible

    by pjdon

    not crddible which of course is a type of small sock.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the love seagrass

    by pjdon

    I do feel for people who are TF fanboys but I think they are mixing up what they think would be right with what would make an entertaining film.<P>I think this film should come from a human perspective, it's the only way to get peole to except the verisimilitude of the situation. Maybe the second film will focus more on the bots as characters once the world has excepted them.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:48 p.m. CST

    This movie will BLOW...again

    by nelwack

    I think my problem with Transgender is that its an obvious sign of whats to come in hollywood: Kids growing up and making big giant movies out of what they thought was cool when they were in third grade eating there own boogers.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:49 p.m. CST

    This is ME talking about WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN...

    by Brians Life

    For me, it's not that this is a Bay Movie and that's why it is destined to suckstown...it's that it's a TRANSFORMERS movie in live action that I've always wanted to see and that Bay is directing it, the script is gawd-awful, i don't enjoy ANY of the cast particularly...sucks. I'm not apologizing for it (which so many are nowadays) but I LOVED the animated Transformers movie....LOVED IT! It was much more than a toy commercial to me. I can't imagine that Bay's movie will have anything as powerful as when a crushed Megatron is floating towards Unicron...MEGATRON: "NOBODY summons Megatron! UNICRON: Than it pleases me to be the first.." I dunno...

  • May 30, 2007, 4:51 p.m. CST

    This Summer Belongs to Transformers!!!!!!

    by lost.rules

    Until Fanstic Four:2 comes out a week later. Then Harry Potter the week after that. The The Simpsons the week after that.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:51 p.m. CST

    As for people criticising the script.

    by pjdon

    1: Have you read many action movie scripts? They don't read that well , there is no real tension as that comes from the visual aspects and the dialouge sounds false.<p>2: The script is probably STILL being altered, bits taken out addeed etc. The script we read was over a year ago or something. I'm sure it will have changed, a lot.<p>3: A crap script can make a brilliant film and a great script can make a shite film.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Bumblebee's line of dialogue...

    by RokurGepta

    at the end of the film he says "My Bad"

  • May 30, 2007, 4:54 p.m. CST

    But here's the biggest clue it will suck.......

    by lost.rules

    psssst... It's directed by Michael Bay.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Remember when Optimus...

    by dramirezs23

    Remember when optimus was a Gorilla? His best friend was a rat and a cheetah. The sequel to this should be a beast wars themed movie, I think my head would explode if I ever saw that.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Brians Life do you actuallt think

    by pjdon

    they could just make a live action film with the same plot as the cartoon movie.<p>That would be crap. There is no earth scenes set anywhere other than Autobot HQ so there would be no sense of scale for the robots. They could all be 2 ft tall. They are only giant robots in relation to us.<p>Also would you really like to see the musical number on the trash plannet. Robots with beards. A big pink girl bot. A transformer fishing? Imagine how rediculous that would all be live action. Fishing! And you complain about the bots being in Shias back yard?

  • May 30, 2007, 4:57 p.m. CST

    PJDon

    by Brians Life

    1. Most action movie scripts I've read actually read BETTER than the end product. Especially those from the 80's (Predator, Robocop, Lethal Weapon). Also the SUPERMAN RETURNS scripts reads very much like what's onscreen. The Star Wars scripts are describtive as well. Generally, you can tell what's gonna happen onscreen from the finished script. 2. Granted, but I'm just taking into account what I've seen of past screenplays that Bay is attached to and what he does with character and emotion. 3. Hell of a generalization. Examples?

  • May 30, 2007, 4:58 p.m. CST

    The animated movie

    by seagrass

    I have fond memories of it, but even when I was a kid, I hated three things about the movie. Number 1: "The Touch". Both times. Terrible. Number 2: "Dare to be Stupid"/the universal greeting. Ugh. Number 3: Blurr's voice. I blame Micro Machines for that.

  • May 30, 2007, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Brian's Life and Pjdon!

    by lost.rules

    Are you ready to RUUUUUUMMMMBBBBBBLLLLLLEEEEEEEE?

  • May 30, 2007, 5:01 p.m. CST

    PJ...uhm..nope.

    by Brians Life

    I don't think a live action movie with the same plot as the animated movie would be appropriate at all. Didn't say that...just that I enjoyed it and think it's better than most give it credit. Don't think that one bit...I DO think that a Transformers movie should focus MUCH MORE on the TRANSFORMERS than it should the human characters though.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:01 p.m. CST

    dramirezs23 - BEAST WARS

    by nelwack

    Fuck, they probably WILL make a movie out of stupid ass Beast Wars becouse some punk ass who was a teenager in the 90's and liked it will grow up and go to hollywood in the future. I predict a beast Wars movie by 2020...

  • May 30, 2007, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Brian's life

    by lost.rules

    Jabs with the left!

  • May 30, 2007, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Bah Weet Granah Weet Nini Baum

    by Brians Life

    or something to that effect. Yeah, geek. I dunno, I still get a hell of a kick out of the Stan Bush tunes...cheddar. fuckin' cheddar. Yeah, Micromachines were HUGE at the time...I thought Blur's voice was appropriate...character that moves fast. I dug it.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Pjdon

    by lost.rules

    He's on the Ropes!

  • May 30, 2007, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Pjdon

    by lost.rules

    He's Down! And the ref is counting!

  • May 30, 2007, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Seagrass

    by tehgreekhammer

    Just to set the record straight you were the one that insulted me first. I only came back at you with the "yo momma" stuff as a rebuttal to your pole smoker reference. <p> Im not saying that bumblebee needed to be a Volkswagon Beetle but making him a Camaro is dumb because he was always the runt of the litter. Making him a bad ass camaro kind of goes against the whole idnetity of the character. He could have been a Mini, or a civic, or some other crappy POS car that gets an update (and a supercharger). <p> take a look at this and tell me a design like this wouldnt have worked. <p> http://tinyurl.com/2ze5vs <p> I promise you its not a meatspin.com site.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:08 p.m. CST

    10

    by lost.rules

    ...

  • May 30, 2007, 5:08 p.m. CST

    ALL OF YOU -- fuckin' rollercoaster

    by Brians Life

    Sometimes I CAN'T STAND the rest of the TALKBACKERS and than there are those moments you realize that the reason you're so frustrated is that you're talking to some one that is just as passionate as you are.....fucking life.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:09 p.m. CST

    9

    by lost.rules

    ...

  • May 30, 2007, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Blurr has a beer and cheets on his Wheelie

    by seagrass

    or should it be the other way around?

  • May 30, 2007, 5:09 p.m. CST

    8

    by lost.rules

    ...

  • May 30, 2007, 5:10 p.m. CST

    7

    by lost.rules

    ...

  • May 30, 2007, 5:10 p.m. CST

    6

    by lost.rules

    ...

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    5

    by lost.rules

    ...

  • May 30, 2007, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Nelwack remember

    by dramirezs23

    that they eventually got home and they were still animals for some reason? Except now they were like techno organic animals, that was fucking retarded.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:11 p.m. CST

    4

    by lost.rules

    ...

  • May 30, 2007, 5:11 p.m. CST

    4

    by lost.rules

    ...

  • May 30, 2007, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Tehgreekhammer

    by seagrass

    I beg to differ. Your words: "It seems all those pole smokers have made a concerted effort to come over here and praise the shit out of michael bay and this POS. so sad..." You called everyone who is pulling for this movie a pole smoker.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:11 p.m. CST

    5

    by Yack Backer

    ...

  • May 30, 2007, 5:11 p.m. CST

    I do actually love the animated movie

    by pjdon

    but it is no way what i would expect from a live action version. <p>As for the script thing I think that this type of action movie is so action orientated that large sections of the action would where just described in afew words.<p>It's like the whole 'they run down the staircase' bit in the LOTR script which turned into a brilliant scene.<p>Brian's life - do you think that the script for TF or the movie itself will be any different in tone than Bay's previous films? No? Well then i'll enjoy it.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Come on Pjdon!

    by lost.rules

    3...

  • May 30, 2007, 5:11 p.m. CST

    9

    by Yack Backer

    ...

  • May 30, 2007, 5:12 p.m. CST

    42

    by Yack Backer

    ...

  • May 30, 2007, 5:12 p.m. CST

    YES! Pjdon Gets back up!

    by lost.rules

    Oh, folks. I think were in for one hell of a fight.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Let's play a game...

    by Boober

    All you talkbackers who grab your shit from the monkey-cage floor and fling it at the audience in regards to ANY upcoming flick...please post what you consider to be GREAT movies... because I think some of us would rather like to wing our own flaming bags at endlessly screaming moronic simians who equate importance to the attention they get from playing in their own excrement. Cheers!

  • May 30, 2007, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Do it

    by RokurGepta

    I dare you <p> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvpMcS9bXKw <p> anyone know where I can find the junkions song?

  • May 30, 2007, 5:14 p.m. CST

    I had no clue what all the bloody counting was for

    by Yack Backer

    But I like to cause disruptions!

  • May 30, 2007, 5:15 p.m. CST

    "IT'S YOU AND ME NOW!"

    by Mogwai Democracy

    "... SO LETS SEE YOU JUST DROP THEM PANTS."

  • May 30, 2007, 5:16 p.m. CST

    what are we counting down?

    by Phategod2

    Hows was everyones M-day.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Goodbye friends!

    by lost.rules

    Enjoy the rest of you TB. I love you guys, and God Bless Michael Bay!

  • May 30, 2007, 5:17 p.m. CST

    meltedfacetoht and Brian

    by pjdon

    what I meant was more of a case of scripts that read like crap but up on screen are great.<p>I read the script for SinCity and Crank and they where practically unreadable. Crank was downright embarresing but on screen it turned out brilliantly.<p>And we all know that any number of good scripts can be ripped apart when it comes to shooting. Just look at how many writters try and disasoicate themselves with their work Frank Miller for one.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Your perogative

    by Brians Life

    And I will not enjoy it and PJDon, I am a rather selfish person. To me, it's a waste. I'm not one of those "be greatful it got made" type people...product for the sake of product doesn't do it for me. I'm not happy JUST BECAUSE there's a Ghost Rider or Fantastic Four movie...I want GOOD ones. That's all. I expect a rudimentary introductory story from ANY live action adaptation...just not in this mishandled a manner.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:17 p.m. CST

    I'm also happy

    by seagrass

    that Jazz's face looks almost exactly like it did in the cartoons and comic. The visor is spot on. Jazz, Sideswipe, and Sunstreaker were badass when I was a kid. I don't mind Bumblebee as a 2007 Camaro, which doesn't look like a muscle car to me. He probably should have been a yellow Solstice, though...Jazz would have been perfect as a black Camaro. However, there is no "old" version of the Solstice in existence, so the contrast between the old and new models for Bumblebee's upgrade would have been lost.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Imagine my surprize when I came back from my

    by pjdon

    smoke break to see a countdown had started to my destruction.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Be Constructive!

    by Boober

    B-E-CONSTRUCTIVE!!!

  • May 30, 2007, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Boober

    by nelwack

    Whats a GREAT movie? Is it a movie you enjoy? If thats the case, Commando is a great movie.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Boober, that's easy

    by Yack Backer

    How far back do you want me to go? GODFATHER? RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK? PULP FICTION? EMPIRE STRIKES BACK? SILENCE OF THE LAMBS? CHILDREN OF MEN? PAN'S LABYRINTH? THE GREAT ESCAPE? There are literally hundreds of movies that are better than the shit people are fighting here to protect-- esp. films by Mike Bay!

  • May 30, 2007, 5:20 p.m. CST

    "The nose don't pick the coke, the coke picks the nose"

    by Mogwai Democracy

    SNORT FOR THE EDIT. 7/4/07<br><br>When are we going to get Bay to do one of these talkbacks? It would be truly epic.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Look what I discoverd

    by RokurGepta

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3uA-KDP5Zw <p> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntjVthsbOEs\ <p> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eluBw3aVYXI&mode=related&search= <p>

  • May 30, 2007, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Start Throwing Shit....

    by Brians Life

    The Star Wars Trilogy, Children of Men, The Great Escape, Stalag 17, Silence of the Lambs, Halloween, Night of the Living Dead, Day of the Dead, Delicatessen, Yojimbo, The Three Amigos, Caddyshack, Abbot and Costello Meet Frankenstein, Excalibur,Goonies, Ferris Bullers Day Off, Dazed and Confused, Pi, The Man Who Wasn't There, Memento,Seven, Fight Club, Mission Impossible, Poseidon Adventure, Munich, Jaws, Shawshank redepmtion, One flew over the Coo coo's nest, rservoir dogs...this is pointless as I could name movies I love all day.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Hey!!!! The Movie Commando

    by RokurGepta

    had Alyssa Milano!!!

  • May 30, 2007, 5:27 p.m. CST

    OK fling away

    by Phategod2

    Bullitt, Superman II, ESB,Die Hard Like YB said there are too many movies better this POS.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Brians Life Ghost Rider and FF

    by pjdon

    could have easily been deeper more interesting movies.<p>I don't have nearly the same respect for TF as I do for characters which have been around twice as long and have interesting subtext to them.<p>TF has alwayus been a visual thing for me. I just want the action with some cheesy Bay emotion to help it along.<p>If you think about it the original TF where not really giant robots in a lot of the cartoons/comics. They didn't interact much with humans and so like I said they where just like normal people. They didn't even change into vehicles a lot of the time. I only think Tf would work live action as a 'what if' type movie. Okay it's not the movie you dreamt of but I don't think a smaller director could have ever given you the visual action the material requires.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:27 p.m. CST

    I would like to point out Mogwai Democracy's post above

    by Yack Backer

    As being very funny.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:28 p.m. CST

    RokurGepta

    by nelwack

    hell yeah. the Begining is great becouse you see Ah-nuld tossing her around the pool like she's a rag doll. Ah-nuld also trashes Boy George in the first few minutes...

  • May 30, 2007, 5:31 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS (STILL) = NIPPLES ON BATMAN

    by robogeek.com

    Haven't said it in awhile, and it really can't be said enough. (Though I do love me my giant robot action, and hence can't _not_ see this movie. Dammit.)

  • May 30, 2007, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Brians Life i love the fact that you

    by pjdon

    have The Three Amigos and Pi in the same list. I just found myself trying to remember the 3 amigo dance. <p>Also appreciate your love for the underappreciated Mission Impossible. Classic De Palma. What do you think about MI:III? I thought it was one of the most intense action thrillers I have ever seen but was let down by a cheesy ending (Tom and his missus don't ebven act like they have just been through a terribe ordeal) what is wrong with the way movies used to just end on the last important scene intead of showing you what happens straight after and the next day etc.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:33 p.m. CST

    PJDon...I like the cut of your jib

    by Brians Life

    whatever the fuck that means. I just look back on the promise that he was gonna please ALL the fans...ah, whatcha gonna do right? I think we'll have to do something that's a rarity here and end a conversation civilly....although I do think it depends entirely on what you mean by "visual action"...Bay certainly doesn't have the license on visual style. I'm just looking for more than a things go smashy smashy flick. I want to care about Optimus Prime...be invested in his struggles in the movie.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:35 p.m. CST

    I had a whole lecture on Commando

    by pjdon

    when I did my film and media degree. We spent half an hour analysing the opening as a means of setting up character and montage etc. Arnuld and daughter feeding a deer is my favorite movie shot of all time.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:36 p.m. CST

    PJ...loved the ACTION in MI3 buuuuut

    by Brians Life

    I was expecting Tom and his "Gal" to jump in the air and freeze frame for the ending...JJ can direct decenct action. one hand at a time on each shoulder so that your arms are crossed, both hands down to the hips at the same time, turn your head and "UHHHH!"

  • May 30, 2007, 5:37 p.m. CST

    pjdon

    by nelwack

    Wow.... I would have loved to have heard that discussion... do you have anything saved? Notes or something?

  • May 30, 2007, 5:38 p.m. CST

    I would hate to meet Bay

    by pjdon

    I'm sure he is like a 15 yr old chest bumper on coke.<p>I just can't help but enjoy his films though, they are what the term 'rollercoaster movie' was invented for. I do realise that people do hold these characters closer to their heart than I do and sympathize.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Was about 6 or 7 years ago nelwack

    by pjdon

    our film teacher was called Mick the Wizard (not to his face), he looked just like a skinny gandalf. If you mentioned a made for TV movie you had caught once at 3 in the afternoon about a womans struggle with cancer he could name the whole cast/crew etc. He over 10,000 movies on video.<p>He could appreciate anything for what it was.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Brians life I think MI:III

    by pjdon

    was flawless in terms of action. With a bit of an edit; ending the film just after Tom gets shocked back into life (leaving you with the impression that his wife might even leave him for lying to her and putting her in danger) and cutting out 'humpty dumpty sat on the wall' (worst line ever?). The rest of the movie is quite dark and it could be perfect with a bit of chopping.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Awww, meltedface is...

    by Boober

    both nostalgic AND a romantic.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Daaaaaamn that Gabriel Gray...

    by Brians Life

    funny motherfucker. I like him. If I came to the present from 1999 I might think the interface on this site was pretty damn good...."oh you guys hear about that stuff FLASH animation"...i keed...anyway, yeah MI3 needed a few trims...the scene with the two agents in the car outside the vatican, & the ending was tacked on...agreed. Anyone see 28 Weeks Later. I haven't seen a zombie movie with such tight suspense driven action in a WHILE. LOVED seeing a semi-realworld military response to a zombie invastion too.

  • May 30, 2007, 5:57 p.m. CST

    pjdon

    by RokurGepta

    what film school did you attend? <p> I went to Brooks Institute of "POT"ography

  • May 30, 2007, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Nothin's gonna stand in our way

    by GornPirate

    The fortunate ones To be fast and free and young I want to count myself among The fortunate ones We won't be denied We know that time is on our side We've got the passion and the pride We won't be denied This generation With fire in our eyes Strong are the ties that bind us We don't need no alibis Nothin's gonna stand in our way Nothin's gonna stand in our way Nothin's gonna stand in our way Not tonight We want it all And tonight we got the call We're running high but we won't fall We want it all We won't be denied Like a breaker at high tide We're gonna take that sweet joy ride We won't be denied Grew expectations Moments in the sun We've waited all our lives And now we know our time has come Nothin's gonna stand in our way Nothin's gonna stand in our way Nothin's gonna stand in our way Not tonight

  • May 30, 2007, 6:01 p.m. CST

    I actually think that Bay's films

    by pjdon

    do manage to create a good amount of tension and intensity in his action. It's not his action is like the Starwars prequals or the Matrix sequals where the action just feels like a dance with no focus.

  • May 30, 2007, 6:02 p.m. CST

    GornPirate - fucking A man

    by pjdon

  • May 30, 2007, 6:04 p.m. CST

    lol

    by RokurGepta

    lol

  • May 30, 2007, 6:07 p.m. CST

    RokurGepta-

    by pjdon

    University of Central Lancashire in the north of England. <p>You know when I think about it anything I know is stuff I learnt myself, not in lectures. There where so many people who did not have the 1st clue when it comes to movies but where very academic and did better than me. I honestly think I knew more about films than anyone else in my class of 70 odd, just smoked too much dope and scraped by with an average degree.<p>I did a 15,000 word dissertation on the Coen Brothers in the 48 hours before it was due in without any research and just about saved my ass from repeating.

  • May 30, 2007, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Transformers save me!!!

    by andrew coleman

    So far the summer has sucked. Spider-man 3 was corny and under whelming. Shrek 3 just not that funny and Pirates 3 was one of the worst movies I've ever seen, like seriously back up and look at the movie, it's horrible. Transformers better rock my balls off or this summer was a waste. I'm hoping LF or DH will kick ass but I really have no idea and Bourne 3 will probably be cool but I'm looking for Transformers to be THAT summer movie that will make me go crazy. Here is to hoping...

  • May 30, 2007, 6:14 p.m. CST

    i have to agree

    by RokurGepta

    pretty much everything I learned about movies and film making, is stuff I learned by myself, outside of class through hands on experience. A lot of my classes and teachers were jokes, they were sometimes more stoned than some of the students, one teacher frequently lectured on the old glory days of being coked out on film sets, specifically mentioning his work on Apocalypse Now, he mentioned was always going off about how many different ways they would sneak coke through customs, and talk about the entire cast and crew of the film were coked out. It made me so irritated, I wanted to learn how to make movies, yet instead was taught how to sneek drugs onto a set. GRRRRR

  • May 30, 2007, 6:14 p.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS

    by pjdon

    <br>........................<br>When one boys life is TRANSFORMED by love...when our world is TRANSFORMED by war...your life will be TRANSFORMED by a movie...

  • May 30, 2007, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Re: Transformers save me!!

    by LordMaker

    Transformers will probably be a good summer movie. It's not a sequel. Apart from Robot Jox, I don't there has ever been a film about giant battling robots. The film-makers are trying to create a new continuity, but it appears to be quite far from the source. It will be interesting to see how this pans out.

  • May 30, 2007, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Re: TRANSFOMERS

    by LordMaker

    Let's just hope the script hasn't been transformed to shit

  • May 30, 2007, 6:17 p.m. CST

    The whole AICN site selling out idea is getting old

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    You morons who claim that this site has sold out can suck a hot fart out of my asshole. I mean come on. I don't agree with every review this site churns out but that's just crass ignorance on your part to even assume that just because they get invited to sets or inside info, or talk to a director etc etc etc that they are less likely to give a movie a bad review. Did any of you idiots ever think about the banner ads that have been bought over the years of DVDs that got shit reviews from Harry and company? Prime example is Creepshow 3. There has been heavy banner ad traffic from the movie and Harry pissed all over it so the theory that money buys a good review on this site is total garbage. Just because Harry is stoked for Transformers like most of us are does not mean he is a Bay fan or going to give it a glowing review. However going into this movie knowing what it is and what some of us want which is giant robots kicking the fucking shit out of each other and everything in site I am sure it's going to get a decent nod as a fun summer blockbuster that is a must see for it's effects alone, and so fucking what. When Star Wars came out it was about the marvel of the effects and not so much the story but some of you idiots don't remember that. Really if you watch the original movie the acting was terrible, the script was not original at all and all around it was total cheese but it did well because there had never been anything quite like it seen before and we all got attached to those classic characters. Transformers is no different in that the script is cheese, the acting will be sub par but the robots are going to blow our fucking minds away and that's what Bay and company are banking on to put asses in the seats. To call AICN a sellout is a fucking joke. <BR> <BR> Believe me I disagree plenty. Eli Roth prime example. Other then that Thanksgiving trailer in Grindhouse I think his movies suck turds and I don't get why Harry is a fan but I am not going to call the guy a sellout for liking him.

  • May 30, 2007, 6:18 p.m. CST

    I believe there was a sequel to

    by RokurGepta

    Robot Jox, and I think there was another film about giant battling robots, I want to say it was called "Crash and Burn" but I could be wrong.

  • May 30, 2007, 6:20 p.m. CST

    I'm a Transformers fan...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...and Seagrass is...but I can safely say there are much, much worse. <p> They're are Transformers fans hating on this project for EXACTLY the reason that it doesn't take place entirely on Cybertron; that it has the nerve to actually feature HUMAN characters; that Unicron will not be mentioned or even refrenced. <p> ::: shakes head ::: <p> Sad but true. <p> PJdon - wazzup?! Good to finally have another level-head 'round here. <p> What else have I missed? Are we still talking Star Wars Transformers with robo-beards and doing MILF's greek-style?

  • May 30, 2007, 6:22 p.m. CST

    RE: I believe there was a sequel to

    by LordMaker

    I remember seeing that crash and burn title in the video rentals in the 90s. I read in fanzine Starburst, interviewing Robot Jox director Stuart Gordon, that he made that film because he was influenced by the transformer toys. I don't think Transformers will be bad as that film.

  • May 30, 2007, 6:24 p.m. CST

    WizardofOz...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...THANK GOD!!! I said that too waaaaay earlier, just in fewer wordz! <p> Heh-heh - I love that greeting I got earlier too: "Cadillac Jones you're right - don't bother explaining - AICN Talkbacks: Never will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy"

  • May 30, 2007, 6:24 p.m. CST

    FUCK YES!!!! That is awesome!!!

    by Power_Girl

    Amazing as fuck...I'm getting Lost world T-rex in the back yard vibes.

  • May 30, 2007, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Cadillac Unless you are going to have a lot of human

    by pjdon

    perspective it's not worth making it live action. An all set on Cybertron film may as well be a CGI cartoon.

  • May 30, 2007, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Robot Jox...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...and Crash N' Burn. I just remember one them had some fine, fine titties in them.

  • May 30, 2007, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Robot Jox was my biggest dissapointment when I was

    by pjdon

    young. It just didn't live up to its premise. TF is really going to be the first real giant robots film.

  • May 30, 2007, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Well, yeah PJ...

    by Cadillac Jones

    I mean the whole concept of the toy was that they - SHOCK - turn into cars and crap for - SHOCK - disguise! <p> But these are the type of fans who probably make up fanfic's about Jazz & Ratchet having gay robot-on-robot sex. Nobody likes that kind of fanfic. <p> Even the Trekkies don't like gay fanfic. <p> Even if its Wesley and Worf. <p> ESPECIALLY if its Wesley and Worf!

  • May 30, 2007, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Why is the aspect ratio fucked up?

    by The Decider

    n/t

  • May 30, 2007, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Re:Cadillac Unless you are going to have a lot of human

    by LordMaker

    I think the line between CGI and Live action is really becoming blurred. This will probably be a half decent film but not pure to the source. I think that we will one day get the Transfomers film we want. Because the G1 base is too big. I see this film as just another alternate reality version, to add to the many alternate reality versions of Transformers that have come out in the last few years. Cybertron, Armada, Beast WArs anyone? I think that's why the film-makers have taken so many libertys. If this film was made ten years ago it would be totally different. I really despair at the movie Megatron, but watching Beast Machines, you can see that he becomes more demonic looking as the versions progressed. You dig?

  • May 30, 2007, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Westerly flusher and the traveller

    by RokurGepta

    "Wherever you are, there you are" -BB

  • May 30, 2007, 6:38 p.m. CST

    why does my signature only appear

    by RokurGepta

    on like 1 out of every 40 posts?

  • May 30, 2007, 6:38 p.m. CST

    LORDMAKER RE STUART GORDON

    by LordMaker

    Re-animator is fucking BRILLIANT. from start to finish. I love the credit sequence. I think like many film-makers, his vision is quashed. Space-Truckers?

  • May 30, 2007, 6:39 p.m. CST

    re: LORDMAKER RE STUART GORDON

    by LordMaker

    y'know a long time ago Stuart Gordon wanted to make an Iron-Man film?

  • May 30, 2007, 6:46 p.m. CST

    No Bruticus

    by LordMaker

    I guess because Combaticons, Brawl and Swindle appear. We'll never see a Bruticus giant robot in a sequel, Damn! Hell, that's one thing I really loved about Transfomers at that time, the unbridled imagination developing the concept. We started off with cars, cassetes and planes. Then moved unto Dinosaurs, insects and giant combining Robots. Tom Hanks in big didn't invent robot insects, the Transformers did.

  • May 30, 2007, 6:47 p.m. CST

    michael bay song

    by prime lips

    has this been brought up before??!! bloody ell it's impressively ballsy even if i do disagree ha ha alpha trion's beard mmmm

  • May 30, 2007, 6:47 p.m. CST

    LORDMAKER RE STUART GORDON

    by LordMaker

    you got a copy of the script?

  • May 30, 2007, 6:47 p.m. CST

    oops forgot link

    by prime lips

    go youtube search Bay's Touch

  • May 30, 2007, 6:51 p.m. CST

    LordMaker you say the G1 fanbase is big

    by pjdon

    enough that they will eventually make the TF you want. I'd say the fan base will make up for less than 10% of this films profit. Another 20% of people who liked the original TF but don't care about the changes and then 70% of general public.<p>They wouldn't spend more than 30 mill if it was just aimed at the fanboys of TF.

  • May 30, 2007, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Stuart Gordon is doing

    by pjdon

    House of The Re-animator. High hopes I have.

  • May 30, 2007, 7:04 p.m. CST

    I can dig that...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...that's exactly like the comic book flicks being their own universe and not bogged down to certain continuities. <p> But come the fuck on? When you think Transformer - you think giant-robot folding up into a police car or some shit; NOT having humans and NOT setting it on Earth takes away what the whole concept was about to begin with!

  • May 30, 2007, 7:08 p.m. CST

    That was to LordMaker...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...because I was distracted mid-post.

  • May 30, 2007, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Krull

    by RokurGepta

    guilty pleasure or Not?

  • May 30, 2007, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Thanks for putting the preview right here on the site

    by wackedfuck

    Rather than provide a link that leads to another link and so on and so forth. God, I hate that.

  • May 30, 2007, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Jeffrey Combs film....

    by RokurGepta

    that I would like to see a sequel too. <P> FROM BEYOND <p> Great movie

  • May 30, 2007, 7:19 p.m. CST

    lazy ass

    by prime lips

    www.youtube. com/watch?v=ZP7FXFFywy4 ;)

  • May 30, 2007, 7:20 p.m. CST

    The whole 'Flames on Optimus' thing

    by McCroskey

    I never thought it was as bad as some, but I do wonder what the point of including them was in the first place? I mean, why not just go with a solid red design? It would make more sense if realism is desired, as I've seen big red rigs on the road, but I've never seen one with flames. Also, it would just look better. Still, as long as Prime is not made out to be a chump in the movie -- which to me would require him having no equal other than megatron -- then I guess it'll be okay.

  • May 30, 2007, 7:23 p.m. CST

    prequel comics

    by prime lips

    have people been reading these? i am enthralled to find bumble scanned his form back in '03 and also found out the story behind the Mars Rover stamp-on from the original teaser. imho they seem necessary yet ... lacking.

  • May 30, 2007, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Flames on Optimus is like the whole

    by pjdon

    nipples on Batman thing. People who coouldn't explain why Batman n Robin was a bad movie just put it down to little things like that.<p>If the Batsuit had of had nipples in Batman begins it still would have been just as good a film.

  • May 30, 2007, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Jeffrey combs

    by RokurGepta

    For anyone that loves Jeffrey Combs, check out "The 4400" it's VERY cheezy, but for some reason I like it, the Jeffrey Combs character, is some sort of doctor, and he's experimenting with some chemical, and in a total nod to Re-Animator, the chemical is green glowing.....

  • May 30, 2007, 7:41 p.m. CST

    oh and I hate

    by RokurGepta

    the flames on Optimus... but what can I do, nothing, my whining will acomplish nothing more than someone offering me some cheese to go with my whine. <p> on the whole Nipples on the Batsuit, what pissed me off, was if you're gonna be so frakin gay as to put nipples on the bat suit, than god damn it put Nipples on the frakking Batgirl suit FOR CHRISTS SAKE

  • May 30, 2007, 7:42 p.m. CST

    And here's the link to download & save..

    by wadi77

    http://tinyurl.com/3b3449

  • May 30, 2007, 7:45 p.m. CST

    ewokstew

    by huggerorange

    Ewokstew..Learn your Camaro years!..The camaro used in transformers is not a 70, its a 76. They look quite a bit different. Pretty embarrassing for a dude not to know this, especially having owned one yourself.

  • May 30, 2007, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Flames on Optimus Prime...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...equals hair on the nipples of my ex-girlfriend circa' 1997. Which was no big deal because she was cute and shaved 'em.

  • May 30, 2007, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Gabriel Gray

    by RokurGepta

    Did you ever play "The Thing" Videogame? I remember it being an easy game, but fun.

  • May 30, 2007, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Cadillac Jones please tell me that's why you

    by pjdon

    dumped her.

  • May 30, 2007, 8 p.m. CST

    furry nipples....

    by RokurGepta

    some people like that short of $#!+

  • May 30, 2007, 8:01 p.m. CST

    RokurGepta it was quite a good game

    by pjdon

    very intense at the start when you would just be walking along and suddenly the camera would switch to a point of view of a creature behind you and then when you turn around it was gone.<p>Liked the whole trust element aswell.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:03 p.m. CST

    huggerorange

    by ewokstew

    You should re-read my post all the way through! I said I owned a Camaro "like" the one in the trailer except that mine was a 70'. I also said the one in the trailer was between a 74-77. I couldn't tell exactly which year, though so good call. They started that wrap around rear window in 75? The 74' and earlier had the rear window like my 70' if I'm not mistaken. The bottom line is they both share the same 2nd "generation" body so in that respect they are indeed alike.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:04 p.m. CST

    BIG

    by pjdon

    <br>........................<br>HUG

  • May 30, 2007, 8:05 p.m. CST

    one more thing

    by ewokstew

    Mine was yellow and had black stripes on the hood. Guess that would have been a good thing to mention.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:06 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS - HAIRY NIPPLES ON CADILLAC'S EX

    by pjdon

  • May 30, 2007, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Iron Giant Scene Rip Off

    by garyploski

    A Window scene with a large robot and a parent that might freak out. Argh. Come on. Is Optimum really that naive to Earth? I was hoping for fun, now I'm expecting meh.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:09 p.m. CST

    garyploski do you expect

    by pjdon

    Optimus to do research on what annoys parents?

  • May 30, 2007, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Yack did you see the promo for the new

    by Phategod2

    Star wars cartoon It looks like Lucas is trying to rip off Genndy Clone wars which in my opinion was better then all the Prequels. It winds up looking like VideoGame cutscene. and where's Ole AINTITSHOT I haven't seen the ole cumstain since this Topic started.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:13 p.m. CST

    forgive me if this goes astray

    by Sebilrazen

    The html code for a line break is: <br/> &lt;br/&gt; <br/> well, xhtml anyway.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:15 p.m. CST

    hmmm

    by Sebilrazen

    nope, maybe it's: <br> &lt;br&gt; <br> yep.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:16 p.m. CST

    yes, it's &lt;br&gt;

    by Sebilrazen

    make<br>your<br>site<br>compliant.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:16 p.m. CST

    I want to know where Superninja is

    by pjdon

    Big hug supes if your listening.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:21 p.m. CST

    cmro

    by huggerorange

    Nah i remember what i read... dont need to re read.. Your post's title clearly says I owned THAT camaro. Its cool whatever,but a 70 and a 74-77 dont have the same back window. They share some body aspects but i dont even think the subframes are the same. fenders are different, quarters are different. If you ask me i dont know why they had to use a 76 in transformers, they shouldve used a 70-73.. they look much classier and tougher to me. I hate the 74-77 bodystyle unless its a firebird were talking about.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:21 p.m. CST

    SeaGrass

    by tehgreekhammer

    First of all my intention with the initial Polesmoker comment was directed at the fanatical DonMurphy/Transformers fans that post over @ The otherfat bastards website. <p> talk about fanatical fans. Those guys think everything coming out of Bays camp is "FUCKING AWESOME!!!" Its like theyre mindless drones who just repeat the same damn thing over and over again. "GIANT FUCKING ROBOTS" "THANK YOU MICHAEL BAY" etc.etc.etc. <p> Its like a collective mind over there. Disobedience or a differin opinion will not be tolerated. <p> What I said was it seems like those mindless drones made a concerted effort to come over here to "enemy territory" and flood the TB's with overwhelmingly positive posts about how great this movie is going to be with its explosions, and giant fucking robots. <p> you can only read the same catchphrases so many times before you get sick of them. <p> If you are one of those fanatical Don Murphy/Michael Hack Bay cult members then yes, my barb was directed at you. But if you are as you say, just a TF fan wanting to give this movie a chance, before you shit all over it, then my polesmoker comment was not directed at you. <p> I hope this clears things up.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:22 p.m. CST

    One might think everyone here hates it..

    by Reception Fades

    but in reality, its like the same 10 people posting 400 times. you're all arguing about this movie like you probably argue about whose dick is bigger. This movie is going to be extremely enjoyable, and if you don't like it, do go! Fact is, most of you will, and then you'll bitch about how it sets a July 4th record.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:26 p.m. CST

    tehgreekhammer what if I am someone

    by pjdon

    who isn't a G1 fanboy (not a crime) and thinks that while Bay has not one shred of artistic talent I can still kick back and enjoy the explosions.<p>What does that make me?

  • May 30, 2007, 8:29 p.m. CST

    youre right about the 74

    by huggerorange

    youre right about the 74 rear window its like the 70-73. that still doesnt save it from being a crappier camaro to me though. bad ass camaros are from 67-73 for me

  • May 30, 2007, 8:35 p.m. CST

    PJ Don

    by Cadillac Jones

    Nah. I dumped her because she became a total bitch. She was a Trekkie too. <p> There was a time when Star trek was okayish. She killed it quick. It'd be a gorgeous day outside; 80' degress, sunny. "Hey Hon, let's go hiking?" <p> "No - c'mon watch this with me! It's episode 347 where Picard mind melds with the space amoeba and learns the dark arts of bukaki! I've only seen 7 or 8 times - not counting its initial broadcast." <p> "..." <p> THAT'S why I dumped her.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:38 p.m. CST

    I wonder how bumble bee

    by huggerorange

    I wonder how bumble bee becomes the new model camaro in the movie..Does he get mangled or almost destroyed in battle and ratchet has to fix him up?.. or does he simply see a later model one and decides to change his bodystyle for looks?

  • May 30, 2007, 8:40 p.m. CST

    shia makes a comment to bb,

    by Reception Fades

    shia makes a comment to bb, and bb changes into an '08.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:40 p.m. CST

    I really wanted him to be a VW

    by RokurGepta

    oh well, I'll still go see the movie, and probably love it

  • May 30, 2007, 8:45 p.m. CST

    GABRIEL GRAY

    by pjdon

    why were you banned this time? You have made amends and proven yourself a good TBer over the last 2 nights.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:45 p.m. CST

    on the topic of remakes

    by RokurGepta

    does anyone have high hopes for the re-telling of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" ?

  • May 30, 2007, 8:45 p.m. CST

    thatd be really gay and

    by huggerorange

    thatd be really gay and corny if shia made a "comment" on bumblebees looks and he changed to a new camaro. could michael bay be that cheesy?

  • May 30, 2007, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Ugh....

    by RevSick

    ..."my parent's will freak out" oy vey so that's the kind of ham fisted garbage we're in for. More resolve on not seeing that one.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:49 p.m. CST

    PJ

    by tehgreekhammer

    that just makes you a movie fan. Not a mindless drone who just repeats catchphrases and and is salivating at the very idea of seeing a Michael Bay film.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:53 p.m. CST

    tehgreekhammer thats okay then

    by pjdon

    RevSick - explain exactly what is wrong with that line. Isn't he alowed to have parents?

  • May 30, 2007, 8:59 p.m. CST

    It's not so much the line it's the context...

    by RevSick

    ...it's a bad joke, it's just one of those jokes that makes me cringe everytime, smacks of lazy writing.

  • May 30, 2007, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Gabriel Gray

    by RokurGepta

    glad you're back. HUGS <p> pjdon glad you're around HUGS <p> Anyone that gives me a job BEAR HUGS <p> How old is Shia's character supposed to be? <p> God I want to see a Motorcycle transformer <p> God I want to see a Robotech Live Action Movie, who's with me? <p> thoughts?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:01 p.m. CST

    I think people just don't

    by pjdon

    want this movie to have any fun or human element. It's like having a love story or humour is 'un-cool' or some shit.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:05 p.m. CST

    It's gotta have a human element

    by RokurGepta

    Spike and the other humans where a huge part of the G1 Transformers story. I'm glad Cybertron isn't in this movie, it SHOULD be saved for future sequels.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Ive become numb to lines

    by huggerorange

    Ive become numb to lines like "My parents will freak out if they see you" only because hollywood has been spewing corny cheesy unfunny lines like that for as long as i can remember. It sounds like something an 11 year old girl would say to something theyre hiding from their parents. I cant think of any 18-19 year dude saying that, only in hollywood land. I dont know why they have to keep regurgitating stale lines like this, but its a live action transformers movie so i have to let it slide. It seems that alot of pg movies have the demand for such dialogue.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:08 p.m. CST

    No it's not a matter of no human element...

    by RevSick

    ....but when you spend time with lazy shit like trying to hide 100 foot tall robots in your back yard WHEN THEY CAN TRANSFORM INTO CARS so you can utter a cheap one liner it's lazy writing and it's bad writting. I'm all for humor, I'm all for having some kind of human element but I'm not for blatantly cheap lazy writting.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:09 p.m. CST

    trite

    by PeteBogs

    why does every damn action movie trailer use that music?????

  • May 30, 2007, 9:13 p.m. CST

    what does this movie have going for it?

    by WolfmanNards

    Yeah, people will go see it. But how big will this movie really be? I don't see it being that huge. The studio thinks they have a guaranteed hit on their hands, but... for people who don't know anything about the transformers (of which there are many, which is why the movie is aimed at them) according to what is presented in the trailers, they have no idea what the hell is going on. NO plot is presented in any of the trailers. There's no way to tell what this movie is abot.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:15 p.m. CST

    It has a major studio push behind it for one...

    by RevSick

    ...I mean really this movie is banking on the mentality of people going to a movie just to see shit blow up. No talk of storyline, no talk of any kind of substance to it, it's all about special fx, which to an extent is fine but you are basically getting what you pay for with it.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Live action AKIRA

    by pjdon

    If you are going for an English speaking cast then Justin Chatwin should be Tetsuo. I loved him in War of the Worlds and in that ep of LOST. Something about him, he just oozes screen presence and has that big eyed look suitable for Tetsuo.<p>Maybe Topher Grace for Kaneda.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:25 p.m. CST

    RevSick if it starts being anything other than

    by pjdon

    a Bay movie I will walk out. I'll save the good film half of my brain for Iron Man and Dark Knight. I'm going to TF to zone out for a couple of hours.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:27 p.m. CST

    As for Transformer motorbikes-

    by pjdon

    my favorite part of the animated movie is when the one motorbike bot is in bot form riding another in bike form then as they crash they transform and swap places.<p>Genius, would love to see that live action (without the metal beards)

  • May 30, 2007, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Tetsuo...

    by RokurGepta

    I'd have to agree with pjdon, Justin Chatwin WOULD make a good Tetsuo

  • May 30, 2007, 9:30 p.m. CST

    And that's fine...

    by RevSick

    ...but right there you acknowledge that you're not there for good writing or even there for the human element you're there to watch shit blowed up real good. And that's fine but don't make it out like I don't want humor or human element in a movie, it was bad writing, you yourself don't care about that I do.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:38 p.m. CST

    I do want Bay style emotion

    by pjdon

    you know the same kind of emotion in Armaggedon and the same type of humour. I know it feels false but they throw so many writers at it that it always ends up being satisfying and very polished.<p>But your right that there will be no real depth or real emotion or cutting edge humour.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:41 p.m. CST

    One Question

    by Phategod2

    why the hell would you have american cast playing Asians?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Phategod...

    by RevSick

    they're talking about an american remake of Akira, and seeing as that they would enevitably set it in LA or NYC they would probably either go with an all white cast or some kind of one of each race type deal rather than just pick an all japanese cast to do it.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Wouldn't know....

    by RevSick

    ...never watched Armagedon looked like garbage to me and seeing the same emotional heartstringy badly written pablum in every film is not my idea of a good time, so have fun with it.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:47 p.m. CST

    I'll go one better...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...why the hell do anime have caucasians as Asians? Casting Justin & Chatwin wouldn't look out of place in the least!

  • May 30, 2007, 9:48 p.m. CST

    My bad...

    by Cadillac Jones

    Topher & Chatwin.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Look I like me some cheese...

    by RevSick

    ...but if I want cheese I go looking for it and it better be sold to me as cheese. I don't like being sold top quality if it's not, this is not, this is cheese of the highest order, and frankly could've been handled far better as a property, the ball was dropped and I'm not going to it, at most I'll catch it on video or on demand.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:48 p.m. CST

    My bad...

    by Cadillac Jones

    Topher & Chatwin.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Phategod2 AKIRA would be snatched

    by pjdon

    up by hollywood if it was ever to go live action.<p>Don't know the names of many young Japanese stars but Tony Leung is pretty much my favorite actor of all time and I'd love to see him play Kaneda, he's just too old though.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:50 p.m. CST

    A live-action Robotech?

    by Cadillac Jones

    Sign me up! But JUST the Macross Saga - or Macross as it should be called. <p> Sure. <p> Josh Lucas would make an excellent Roy Fokker.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Hey gany long time....

    by RevSick

    ...what's been happenin. If this was put out by The Asylum I would have expected this kind of plagaristic hackery but it's not so I expect more from it.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:51 p.m. CST

    wheres Don?

    by Phategod2

    It fun when shows up. I love the little plays on my Screen name He comes up with. Not to mention the Other Screen names he likes to make fun of. Plus I love his dedication to correcting spelling, punctuation, and grammer in TB's that will be lost and forgotten in weeks if not Days to come.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:53 p.m. CST

    He pops up now and again...

    by RevSick

    ...you can usually tell because he starts going off about how shocked he is that so and so hasn't sued Harry or that everyone will go see the movie yadda yadda.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:53 p.m. CST

    I'm Transformers fan...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...and behind the movie, but damn if it ain't fun riling up Don. It makes for some damn fine amusement.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:53 p.m. CST

    So when is the Live Action Voltron coming out?

    by Phategod2

    And how will Hollywood be raping it?

  • May 30, 2007, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Phategod...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...I guess you weren't here earlier. <p> Voltron will be raped Greek-Style.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:54 p.m. CST

    They'll rape it by using the third...

    by RevSick

    and unseen in the states version of voltron, there by covering there asses against fan boys hoping for the lions or cars.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Revsick - that is kind of what i have been saying

    by pjdon

    people can either enjoy Bays films or not stomach them. I like more complex films but I also like going on big dumb rollercoaster rides.<p>I suggested to Harry and Quint that they choose 4 of us to review the film when it comes out in the following catagories: 1: Bay hater/TF fanboy 2: Bay lover/TF indifferent 3: Baylover/TF fanboy (probably the most intruiging combination) 4: Bayhater/TF indifferent.<p> Because this is why there have been so many arguments - someone who can't stand Bay is not going to start loving him and someone who has no interest in TF is not going to care about design choices.<p>Ths way 4 of us would get to review from a different point of view and it would be our reward/send of for what has been a TB event over the last year.<p>They like the idea and I've emailed them with specifics but we'll have to see if they get round to setting it up.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Minmei....

    by RokurGepta

    would be played by Lucy Liu <p> there is no other

  • May 30, 2007, 9:56 p.m. CST

    The Vehicle Voltron...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...was the best. <p> ::: SHRUG ::: <p> I'm also the only one here who wants DVD sets of Inhumanoids & Mighty Orbots. <p> Even though I have the UK Inhumanoids set and it plays just fine on my computer.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Are you serious?

    by Phategod2

    I was hoping for Blazing Nunchukus formed by the Teal Salamander tickling his taint till it popped out. Followed By Ro-Beast's that grows to immense sizes when the magic words Mecha lecka Hi mecha hiny ho being spoken by Empress Haggar.

  • May 30, 2007, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Minmei...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...can be played by Tom Cruise, who is a short, annoying brunette. <p> In all seriousness - Sam Neill should play the German Doctor who they have onboard to study the fold-system.

  • May 30, 2007, 10 p.m. CST

    Haggar...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...wanted Prince Lotar is the worst way. <p> Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom, baby!

  • May 30, 2007, 10:01 p.m. CST

    That cold

    by Phategod2

    As long as has scene where he runs away or to something I'll be good that man run like nobody's business.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:02 p.m. CST

    GABRIEL GRAY do you not agree

    by pjdon

    that his films all look like every inch of set has been built from scratch and that every line of dialouge has been put through a computer to see if it is as good as it can possibly be.<p>I'm not saying this is a good thing but polished does describe his films.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:03 p.m. CST

    I'd do it if I didn't have to pay to see it...

    by RevSick

    ...I won't give Don Murphy any money out of my pocket on theatrical on this. Even for a cool review project.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Let's see...

    by Cadillac Jones

    So far for my Robotech we have: Roy Fokker - Josh Lucas Dr. Lang - Sam Neill Rick Hunter - Topher Grace or Jake Gyllenhal Lisa Hayes - Laura Linney Captain Gloval - Gary Oldman Max Sterling - ??? Ben Dixon - ??? Claudia Grant - Beyonce' The Zentredai: Breetai - ??? Exxador - ??? Mirya - Jessica Beil

  • May 30, 2007, 10:10 p.m. CST

    RevSick - well you'll have to see who they choose

    by pjdon

    I suggested they send the chosen ones tickets but they probably won't.<p>I can't believe even the biggest haters are not going to see it in the cinema after all the effort they have put into these TBs.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:11 p.m. CST

    I want to see Jake play a Superhero

    by Phategod2

    before he hits 40 or before superhero movies become passé.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:11 p.m. CST

    They are, PJDon...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...though they won't admit it to you or me.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Breetai

    by RokurGepta

    Ed Harris <p> there is no other

  • May 30, 2007, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Never thought of Ed Harris...

    by Cadillac Jones

    Good call, Rokur!

  • May 30, 2007, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Christian Bale should play

    by pjdon

    that big general guy with the mustache in AKIRA.<p>But seriously imagine how fucking cool the bike scenes would be. And Kanedas bike still looks perfect, hasn't aged one bit in terms of design.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:15 p.m. CST

    My complaint...

    by RevSick

    ...isn't from the standpoint of some jilted G1 fanboy. My problem has to do with the constant false advertisement that was involved with the film from day one. They constantly referenced G1 how much they loved transformers especially G1 and how they're seriously looking at all things G1, all the way to bringing a giant G1 style Optimus Prime G1 style mac truck onto the floor of San Diego Con back in 2005 drapped with the logo. Then you add Don Murphy's childish behavior and there's just no way I'll sit in a theater nowing I gave that guy dollar one of my money.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:19 p.m. CST

    He still Owes me $19.25

    by Phategod2

    For LOXG.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:19 p.m. CST

    I can't count...

    by RevSick

    ...how many movies I've been suckered into based on the false advertising of studios selling shit as one thing and it's completely different so since I know this isn't what I want to see I'm not going.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Oh good god don't remind me of LOXG

    by RevSick

    ...I tried to block that turd from my memory.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Now you know...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...my pain, RevSick, when somebody reminded me of Superman IV... <p> DAMN YOU MARIEL HEMINGWAY AND JON CRYER!!!

  • May 30, 2007, 10:23 p.m. CST

    GABRIEL GRAY pearl harbour is

    by pjdon

    different due to the fact that they tried to deal with a serious subject. That type of dialouge is made for Armageddon etc not for a war film.<p>I'm not saying his dialouge is subtle or realistic, it is cheesy and each line has clearly been thought over until it gets the bigest laugh/cry from your 15 yr old movie goer. <p>It matches the editing, action, sound, music in the fact that it is constucted by lots of people with infinate money to make every aspect as commercially succesful as possible.<p>If they made a computer which could write a script and asked it to write a big budget cheesy action movie it would write a Bay style script.<p>Every aspect is well done and very poilshed and there are no rough effects or shots but it has a complete lack of any human input.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Oh GAWD Nuclear Man....

    by RevSick

    ...sloooooopppppyyyy!

  • May 30, 2007, 10:26 p.m. CST

    LOXG

    by RokurGepta

    man that story was raped more than any story has ever been raped. <p> AND I CRIED AND I CRIED <p> after I saw LOXG

  • May 30, 2007, 10:28 p.m. CST

    I've heard rumors of people...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...finishing Gigli. <p> Start to finish... <p> ...but these are rumors...

  • May 30, 2007, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Yeah I turned LOXG off

    by RevSick

    ...when they gave Alan Quartermain Tom Sawyer.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:30 p.m. CST

    I did like Sean Connery punching things

    by pjdon

    really hard though. I always thought that if there was a longer edit with more character then LOXG wouldn't be too bad.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Who would do such a horrible thing to themselves...

    by RevSick

    ...I mean are they repenting for some horrible crime of humanity, to sit through Gigli I think I'd rather get the chair.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Read the comic....

    by RevSick

    ...the bastardized that I mean they gave it a mean no-luber.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:34 p.m. CST

    For a second I Got Gigli confused with Gia

    by Phategod2

    Where we get tons of scenes with Agie in the buff when we was young and supple.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:36 p.m. CST

    Anyone who paid to see LoXG

    by Phategod2

    should get to see Transformers for free! I would be equally pissed If paid to see "From Hell"

  • May 30, 2007, 10:40 p.m. CST

    If I remember LOXG correctly

    by RokurGepta

    There were no cars or machine guns in the comic book

  • May 30, 2007, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Never had too much of a problem with From Hell

    by RevSick

    ...but at the point I watched it I knew they were only adapting a very small part of the comic.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:41 p.m. CST

    I paid for myself, my little sister and 2 of her mates

    by pjdon

    to see White Noise because they really wanted to see it and I promised I'd take them to see whatever they wanted.<p>I sat through it though because i have always said I would never walk out of a film no matter how shit.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:42 p.m. CST

    And if I also remember correctly...

    by RevSick

    Alan Quartermain was Mina's love interest and Tom Sawyer and Dorian Grey were added to split that up in order to turn Alan Quartermain into a father figure and to put two hot people together as the couple.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:43 p.m. CST

    I've walked out of a couple...

    by RevSick

    ...Boogeyman and Godzilla 1997

  • May 30, 2007, 10:45 p.m. CST

    I like the fact I can use the word 'mates'

    by pjdon

    now without confusing Americans. Thankyou Charlie Pace from LOST you have taught them well. <p>Now I'm just goin ta leg it to the loo. Back in a mo.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:49 p.m. CST

    lxg

    by huggerorange

    So many people hated these..but I fucking loved LXG and i fucking loved Waterworld, i still find them both very rewatchable. Hopefully transformers wont be as bad as everyone is making it out to be..even though the majority of the wambulances in here havent seen it yet.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:49 p.m. CST

    As bad as Godzilla was

    by pjdon

    I never found it hard to watch, quite enjoyable even.<p>It's not bad films that test me, it's really boring seen it all before types I hate. Has anyone seen Secret Window with Jonny Depp (written and directed by Koepp who is normally good) it was so fucking dull and predictable. At least with LOXG your seeing something newish that keeps your interest going even if it did rape the source material.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Cheezball horror movie

    by RokurGepta

    It's from Australia or maybe New Zealand, it's called "Body Melt" It's gorry, it's cheezy, I LOVED IT!!! have any of you seen it?

  • May 30, 2007, 10:57 p.m. CST

    the only Movie I've ever wanted to walk out of was

    by Phategod2

    X-3. the death of Xavier and Scott seemed like a slap in the face to all X-fans.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:59 p.m. CST

    LXG kicked ass! they got dr

    by huggerorange

    LXG kicked ass! they got dr jeckyll and hyde right!!...unlike van helsing's version. All of the other characters in LXG were awesome too, including sean connery's.

  • May 30, 2007, 10:59 p.m. CST

    new doesn't equal good

    by RevSick

    there's lot's of new stuf out there, but that doesn't make it good. Hell the olson twins stuff is NEW but it doesn't make it good.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Phategod2 it's even more of a slap

    by pjdon

    in the face when they ressurect xavier at the end, chicken shit hollywood can't even carry through on its mistakes.<p>By the way it was my little bros Confirmation the other day and he chose Xavier as his confirmation name.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:01 p.m. CST

    haven't seen Body Melt...

    by RevSick

    ...will look for it

  • May 30, 2007, 11:03 p.m. CST

    nah..we dont get cool shit

    by huggerorange

    nah..we dont get cool shit like that...just lame ass horror movies that for the most part have been copying each other since that retarded Scream movie came out... a lame ass horror movie i saw not long ago --"The breed"

  • May 30, 2007, 11:03 p.m. CST

    RevSick but the Olson twins when they

    by pjdon

    themselves where 'new', now they where good, eh eh eh eh.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:05 p.m. CST

    I thought creepshow 3 was

    by huggerorange

    I thought creepshow 3 was cool in its own little way

  • May 30, 2007, 11:17 p.m. CST

    I believe the special fx make up in

    by RokurGepta

    Body Melt was done by the same crew that worked on "Dead Alive" aka "Braindead" <p> If you can hunt down a copy of Body Melt, I salute you, I personally paid $90 for my VHS copy.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:21 p.m. CST

    <p>

    by RokurGepta

    <p> <p> <p> test <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p><p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p> <p>

  • May 30, 2007, 11:23 p.m. CST

    RokurGepta where is the

    by pjdon

    whole 'feeling bad/badly' line from you F Begbie quoted on the over TB. It's been on the tip of my mind for the last half hour.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:24 p.m. CST

    LOVE

    by pjdon

    <br>........................<br>AND HUGS

  • May 30, 2007, 11:24 p.m. CST

    I know,Its like they didn't have the stones

    by Phategod2

    to stick to there guns. and keep up there own BS. I would have excepted it better if the White Queen or Magneto to run the school.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:37 p.m. CST

    3 letdowns in xmen 3 for

    by huggerorange

    3 letdowns in xmen 3 for me..no sentinnels, lame colossus, not enough wolverine action---yet again!!!everything else wasnt that bad for me.. the 2 deaths were unwarranted though..couldnt she have just injured them really badly?!? theres no bringing cyclops back now-idiots

  • May 30, 2007, 11:40 p.m. CST

    X3 pissed me off!

    by lost.rules

    That's why I won't go watch Spidey 3. I don't ever want to get that angry again.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:41 p.m. CST

    You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

    by lost.rules

    Yeah, that movie pissed me off too!

  • May 30, 2007, 11:45 p.m. CST

    lost.rules surely X3

    by pjdon

    was shit because they gave it to Brett Ratner and he made it to the lowest common denominator.<p>Spidey 3 is still full of Sam Rami greatness but he got in over his head and it is a bit off a mess. But it isn't in the same leauge of lameness as X3

  • May 30, 2007, 11:45 p.m. CST

    I dont know if you Game

    by Phategod2

    but there is supposed to be a Video Games coming out early next year that takes place after ROtS Where you play a young Sith Apprentice working for Vader tracking down Left over Jedi's that might give you a good Vader Fix.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:45 p.m. CST

    dude spidey 3 was way worse

    by huggerorange

    dude spidey 3 was way worse than x3 could ever!... ever! ever! ever! be! good idea in not seeing it. wait till it shows up in the one dollar theaters at least... i dunno some people will defend SM3, i do not, didnt enjoy it. eventhough i think raimi is a good director, and has been able to make good movies .

  • May 30, 2007, 11:46 p.m. CST

    dude spidey 3 was way worse

    by huggerorange

    dude spidey 3 was way worse than x3 could ever!... ever! ever! ever! be! good idea in not seeing it. wait till it shows up in the one dollar theaters at least... i dunno some people will defend SM3, i do not, didnt enjoy it. eventhough i think raimi is a good director, and has been able to make good movies .

  • May 30, 2007, 11:48 p.m. CST

    The Hulk is another film which was flawed

    by pjdon

    but I appreciate the effort that went into it and the respect they showed for the material.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:50 p.m. CST

    pjdon

    by RokurGepta

    KISS KISS BANG BANG

  • May 30, 2007, 11:54 p.m. CST

    I dont fully blame Ratner for his Direction

    by Phategod2

    I blame him for not having more Balls to demand more time, more money, and full control of a script. One thing I'll say about Bay. He takes no shit, problem is he's a hack who really needs to listen to other peoples Opinions.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Why I hated X3

    by RokurGepta

    Juggernaut is supposed to be Xavier's brother, Juggernaut wears the helmet for the same reason Magneto wears a helmet, to block Xavier from messing with his head. The Phoenix is supposed to be an alien being from outer space. Xavier would never have tampered with someone's head the way he did in the movie. The Phoneix kills Cylcops in the Movie... I could go on, but those are my biggest problems

  • May 30, 2007, 11:56 p.m. CST

    i just didnt like how fake

    by huggerorange

    i just didnt like how fake hulk looked in about 70% of the movie. it took me right out of the action, just thinking how cartoony he was. My favorite scenes, were when he looked the most realistic: if remember corectly- most of the desert sequences and in san francisco where hot ass jen conelly shows up.

  • May 30, 2007, 11:56 p.m. CST

    I can easily defend the finger gun scene

    by Phategod2

    not the jazz club scene. But X-3 was a complete Failure in story telling effects and Fight sequences (at least what made it to the Big screen.)

  • May 30, 2007, 11:59 p.m. CST

    what strikes me funny

    by RokurGepta

    is when people complain about the Hulk looking cartoony.... It's a film based on a comic book....

  • May 31, 2007, 12:02 a.m. CST

    Gepta your subscribing to the Fox Kids

    by Phategod2

    version of X-men. But none the less You must remember how Singer skipped the Relationship between Logan and Sabertooth, Storms Incantations, and flying, the Wolverine Costume, and Damn It I also wanted Storms Throwback one piece bikini outfit. and Callisto, and Arclight were more manlier then Rosie O donell Not a hotty with the ability to run fast.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:05 a.m. CST

    huggerorange how does a big green man

    by pjdon

    ever really look that real. Even if they spent years and made it perfect your mind would still say 'hey that looks odd and out of place. I thought the effects in Hulk where spot on.<p>As I always say if I can watch a stop-motion gorrila in the original Kong and not get taken out of the film then I can deal with slightly less than perfect CGI.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:06 a.m. CST

    Since I have said all I'll ever need to say about this

    by HeWhoCannotBeNamed

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  • May 31, 2007, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Fox Kids

    by RokurGepta

    I started collected X-Men comics right around when Bishop first appeared, and the whole Phoenix saga happened. I did watch the Fox Kids Cartoon, but only like 2 or 3 episodes...

  • May 31, 2007, 12:07 a.m. CST

    I didn't have a problem with the Hulk till

    by Phategod2

    the last 10 minutes. The scene with the electric Chair was priceless (gotta love crazy old hollywood stars Nick Nolte)But the end was a complete WTF moment. In a related Topic I cant wait to see Gary Busey Play someones crazy ass father.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:07 a.m. CST

    RokurGepta thanks for that

    by pjdon

    was really bugging me. I love that film the ultimate post-modern film noir or maybe the brilliant Brick is, or The Big Lebowski, ah fuck it they don't have a robot in them.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:08 a.m. CST

    ..

    by huggerorange

    maybe its a lil ironic but its not a cartoon anymore as soon as its being made into a live action movie. even if it came from a fuckin jo blo gum wrapper. It certainly matters that it looks as realistic as possible, or they wouldnt be blowing half of the movies' budget into the CGI alone.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:13 a.m. CST

    hulk still didnt let me down

    by huggerorange

    hulk still didnt let me down as hard as SM3

  • May 31, 2007, 12:15 a.m. CST

    huggerorange they made it look as real

    by pjdon

    as technology, money and most of all time would allow at the time the film was made.<p>People think CGI is easy or something, like the computers do most of the work and that when the CGI is not up to 100% perfection it was a case of whichever artist just wasn't as observent as your average movie goer.<p>People never slagged effects like this when they where practical because you could easily visualize the time and effort it would take to put them together. Doing something on a computer is a lot more time consuming than even stop-motion was.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:16 a.m. CST

    if it helps....

    by RokurGepta

    I think todays movies are relying way way way too much on CGI

  • May 31, 2007, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Spazatronic 2000 your mom looks hot

    by pjdon

  • May 31, 2007, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Spazatronic 2000

    by huggerorange

    ok paris hilton, everything is "hot" to you...we get it

  • May 31, 2007, 12:18 a.m. CST

    I think Realism Get too much attention

    by Phategod2

    Look at the source material when you starte demamding Realism about a guy who gets bitten by a radioactive spider, Blast of radiation, Aglo-Saxon aliens,radiated families and Sentient Robots from outer space, how hard is it for you at any point to suspend reality. If superman can run around in prime colors how hard is it to believe any other costume would be any more or less rediculous.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:18 a.m. CST

    I think Realism Get too much attention

    by Phategod2

    Look at the source material when you starte demamding Realism about a guy who gets bitten by a radioactive spider, Blast of radiation, Aglo-Saxon aliens,radiated families and Sentient Robots from outer space, how hard is it for you at any point to suspend reality. If superman can run around in prime colors how hard is it to believe any other costume would be any more or less rediculous.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:19 a.m. CST

    I don't think it's so much....

    by RevSick

    ...people relying too much on CGI I just think people need to stop going to movies based only on the special fx.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:20 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight keeps me going.

    by lost.rules

    Real hope for that one. No dissappointment, please. PLEASE!

  • May 31, 2007, 12:22 a.m. CST

    superman looked pretty

    by huggerorange

    superman looked pretty fuckin real in the shuttle action sequence...but they fucked it up in the final flying into space sequence....why did they ever choose to make something simple like that cgi? christopher reeve looked more real flying space than that!!!

  • May 31, 2007, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Hollywood is too CGI dependent.

    by lost.rules

    You've got to use all the effects tools to be effective.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Before CGI people would make a film

    by pjdon

    and then add the action into the structure of the film. Now because of CGI they seem to think up a lot of big set pieces first and then film around them.<P>But anyone who says we would be better off without CGI is wrong. I've seen too much I thought I'd never get to see when I was young- dinosaurs, the hulk, spidey swinging through newyork etc. It was all in my head and I remember actually thinking it would never happen. Then I saw Terminator 2 and my face lit up.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Phategod - you don't have long to wait...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...as Gary Busey plays Jake Busey's crazy-ass father 24/7. <p> Good to see some Ang Lee Hulk Lovin'! That movie was da' shizznet and too good for a summer release; it was a mega-budget arthouse flick and I can appreciate what Ang Lee tried to do - hell the editing alone was art. <p> I'm pretty stoked for the latest Hulk too. I know a lot of people loved Bana, but I think Ed Norton is going to be a much better Banner. <p> We need an R-Rated She-Hulk movie with some bra-bursting momentum. <p> I need caffiene!

  • May 31, 2007, 12:28 a.m. CST

    im all for a she hulk flick

    by huggerorange

    im all for a she hulk flick

  • May 31, 2007, 12:30 a.m. CST

    I just have zero confidence in that guy

    by pjdon

    who directing The INcredible Hulk, hopefully all the great acting talent will kick is ass if he starts to get out of line.<p>Anyway I've just finished work for the weekend (6.30 in the morn here) am going to go home for the weekend. See ya next week all.<br>........................<br>BIG HUGS AND LOVE TO YOU ALL

  • May 31, 2007, 12:31 a.m. CST

    hulk will be 9 feet tall in

    by huggerorange

    hulk will be 9 feet tall in this new movie so does it mean he wont be able to smash and throw tanks around? or take down helicopters?

  • May 31, 2007, 12:32 a.m. CST

    they should have the hulk

    by huggerorange

    they should have the hulk tear a car in half and wear the 2 halves like armor gloves

  • May 31, 2007, 12:40 a.m. CST

    <b>Wow,</b><br>can we use <b>Boldface?

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    no shit!

  • May 31, 2007, 12:41 a.m. CST

    I mean

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    <b>No shit!</b>

  • May 31, 2007, 12:43 a.m. CST

    What the god damn hell?

    by RokurGepta

    I just watched a commercial for transformers merchandise, and it showed a toy for the new flaming optimus prime truck, transform into a gun... prime in truck form, transfroms into a gun? TELL ME THIS AINT SO

  • May 31, 2007, 12:43 a.m. CST

    How the fuck did PJDON use boldface???

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    [b]Like this?[/b] or <bold>like this?</bold> or <i><u>like this?</u></i>

  • May 31, 2007, 12:45 a.m. CST

    <b> bold test </b>

    by RokurGepta

    <b> bold test </b>

  • May 31, 2007, 12:46 a.m. CST

    but seriously

    by RokurGepta

    WHY DOES THE PRIME TOY TRANSFORM INTO A GUN!!!!!!! NOW I AM REALLY GOD DAMN PISSED.

  • May 31, 2007, 12:51 a.m. CST

    Okay, your right, HuggerG...I didn't say "like"

    by ewokstew

    But I think you get what I'm saying. And your right...the later Camaro's were crappy looking compared to the 70-73's. I liked my 78' Rally Sport but no other year is sexier than the 70-73's.

  • May 31, 2007, 1:16 a.m. CST

    WHY

    by RokurGepta

    Does one of the new optimus prime toys transform into a GUN!!! Oh Michael Bay you TARD, DAMN IT, I AM so IRRITATED right now, WHAT THE HELL

  • May 31, 2007, 1:28 a.m. CST

    damn it

    by RokurGepta

    everyone's asleep now, I have nobody to share my irritation with. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

  • May 31, 2007, 1:35 a.m. CST

    if we told you how to use bold....

    by moondoggy2u

    <br>........................<br>Then we'd have to tell everybody!

  • May 31, 2007, 1:45 a.m. CST

    Not Getting Bugged

    by mrbill67401

    My kids aren't constantly bugging me that they want to go see this movie, so there might be hope for "Transformers"

  • May 31, 2007, 1:46 a.m. CST

    OK I'm home now

    by Phategod1

    Thats Prime's voice at the end not BB's.

  • May 31, 2007, 1:52 a.m. CST

    Alamo

    by mrbill67401

    Wow, just saw a spot on FoodTV about the Alamo Drafthouse. Looks like a good time.

  • May 31, 2007, 2:21 a.m. CST

    I just came back from the

    by Phategod1

    FF2 Talkback and Vern is crazy I can't wait to see his & Wyrms review of Transformers

  • May 31, 2007, 2:48 a.m. CST

    I WANT TO SEE GIANT F***** ROBOTS BLOWING STUFF AROUND!

    by Strajder

    I am a G1 fan, but I also understand these are totally different Transformers. Looking forward to see Bayformers blow cars up and smash the buildings. Bring them on!!!!111

  • May 31, 2007, 3:29 a.m. CST

    Shia looks like

    by Colonel Activity

    he just got done fucking a cat in this movie...

  • May 31, 2007, 3:35 a.m. CST

    They promised Shia

    by Colonel Activity

    that he would get to fuck Mr. Jinx from "Meet the Parents" if this film does more than $350 million domestically. Do you think he has a shot?

  • May 31, 2007, 3:50 a.m. CST

    Teen Titans

    by Colonel Activity

    A Teen Titans movie has been greenlighted by Warner Bros. Scooped again, AICN!

  • May 31, 2007, 4:18 a.m. CST

    someone pray for Mr. Jinx

    by Phategod1

  • May 31, 2007, 5:25 a.m. CST

    flames on optimus = flames on rodimus

    by prime lips

    the art dept just got confused sat there watching the 86 movie 'for ideas', stoned out of their minds and not paying attention just likE all those gremlins in the theater in the new batch (my GUILTY PLEASURE gorramit - GO HOGAN!. all they could remember was THE HERO WORE FLAMES MMMM. They couldn't even remember spike's bloody name! but they managed witwiticky??

  • May 31, 2007, 5:41 a.m. CST

    new batch

    by prime lips

    my bad

  • May 31, 2007, 6:01 a.m. CST

    GABRIEL GRAY

    by Rupee88

    Intereting, but I've got to think it is fake and staged and just promotion for the movie. Something about it doesn't ring true and that same actor was cast by Apatow in another movie.

  • May 31, 2007, 6:02 a.m. CST

    Great Idea!

    by Colonel Activity

    Cat Fucking!

  • May 31, 2007, 7:01 a.m. CST

    More Matrix

    by mooseaka

    Ahem, I think we're getting a little off topic here. Can we get back to discussing the Matrix sequels????? Did you see my first and second posts? Come on people!!!!

  • May 31, 2007, 7:28 a.m. CST

    My god

    by Kragmose

    Saw the trailer just now. Megan Fox sounds boring.

  • May 31, 2007, 7:48 a.m. CST

    fox

    by prime lips

    speaks? i thought her voice box was crushed before the movie

  • May 31, 2007, 7:57 a.m. CST

    original theme

    by prime lips

    soundtrack.net reports composer Steve Jablonsky has done a new version, but prob won't be in film, maybe on soundtrack... WHY NOT ON FILM? sorRy if you've all seen this

  • May 31, 2007, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Cat fucking?

    by Colonel Activity

    Zang!

  • May 31, 2007, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Tehgreekhammer

    by seagrass

    No worries...I agree with you 100% about blindly fanatical followers of any director, actor, or producer. No one is infallible. Damn, you guys just keep going and going until the early hours. Doesn't Gabriel Gray ever sleep?

  • May 31, 2007, 8:38 a.m. CST

    messi

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    You see, that's where you're wrong. I've been critical of certain aspects of this film...especially since the "Megatron leak". (Maybe you don't remember so good?) But the fact that I CAN tell which robot is which must really burn your ass though, eh?

  • May 31, 2007, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Finally something that admits to being stupid!

    by cdubbs727

    I don't know...after Spider-man 3 and Pirates 3 spent nearly three hours confusing the hell out of me, I'm looking forward to a big stupid movie that is nothing more than robots blowing stuff up. The effects look amazing and, really, Michael Bay is perfect for a story that is nothing more than giant metal toys blowing each other up. And whoever posted about the Knocked Up scene...that was actually on Funny or Die this week. It's Michael Cera and Judd Apatow doing a goof on the I Heart Huckabees stuff.

  • May 31, 2007, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Transformers script...

    by Colonel Activity

    sucks. It sucks worse than AnimalStructure's reading comprehension. It sucks worse than Caddyshack II. It sucks worse than Van Halen without David Lee Roth. It sucks more than Kirk Cameron's infomercials. It sucks more than the Iraq War. It sucks more than going to South Dakota for vacation. It sucks more than watching an ex-girlfriend makeout with a different guy. It sucks more than Britney Spears' parenting skills. What I'm saying is, this script sucks. Oh, and I heard that Shia fucks cats.

  • May 31, 2007, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Bumblebee...

    by Lemming

    His 'voice' are just emotive electronic sounds a la R2-D2, because his voice box was damaged. He make sound, he just can't speak. The radio thing may be only when he's in car mode, or just speculation based on the fact he does turn the radio of the car on a t certain points in the film to comedic-timing effect. I would thought that much (his voice in that trailer) was obvious.

  • May 31, 2007, 9:54 a.m. CST

    BAY TRANSOFORMERS WILL FUK YU IN TEH EYES!!!

    by GARTHIMUS

    wit his MOVE MAKIN MAGIC he wil give u all ANYERISMS!! on 747 u wil all pay to be fukked in teh eyes by talntd MIKE BAY!!! FUKKD UNTIL YOU PISS UR PANTS!!!! MOVIE TAHT AWESOME!!!! WIN!!!!!

  • May 31, 2007, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Grow Up...

    by knightstalker-666

    OK...Just grow up people...enjoy it for what it is. And if you wanna blame anyone for the new Transformer designs blame Hasbro...Michael Bay really didn't have much to do with it. Hasbro wanted to make more money by being able to produce more toys with new designs. Besides which the new designs KICK ASS. Sure I was disappointed when I heard they would be different, but I like the idea now. Change is good sometimes. And I have a comment for the guy who said he just saw a Sideswipe animation...first of all you are a frickin moron...it wasn't sideswipe despite what the post said...which tells me you are NOT a Transformers fan to begin with. And secondly, I severely doubt that it was done by ILM. MORON!!!! If you are a true fan you will watch the movie, shut your mouth and enjoy it. It's merely a new aspect of your favorite cartoon. Suck it up and shut up.

  • May 31, 2007, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Knightstalker...

    by Dr.Opticus

    ur right change is good, hey transformer purists lets have a movie about giant toys YAY! Douche Bags...

  • May 31, 2007, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Octopus Prime and someone else

    by filmcoyote

    Okay I just sent Harry a review so if he uses it (didn't use my Spider-Man 3 one though) i have elaborated to long-winded effect

  • May 31, 2007, 10:34 a.m. CST

    knightstalker--

    by zb.brox

    I don't have a problem with new designs, I have a problem with shitty new designs. And Bay has claimed responsibility for them himself--if you think Hasbro told him the designs had to look like cars that had been frozen, shattered, and then stuck together by a fourth grader into vaguely humanoid shapes, you are incorrect, sir.

  • May 31, 2007, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Re: Designs

    by Colonel Activity

    They don't bother; the script. on the other hand, does. Also, Shia fucks cats.

  • May 31, 2007, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Doesn't FOX have the live action rights to Akira?

    by Johnno

    And aren't they just sitting on it? If they're gonna make that one, my dream is that it would be an action trilogy with each movie covering 2 books of the manga. But teh budget needed for these flicks would be sheer craziness... we need James Cameron or the Wachowski Brothers on that one!

  • May 31, 2007, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Optimus Toy transforms into a GUN

    by RokurGepta

    WTF, last night I saw a new Optimus Prime toy based on the new movie, and it transforms into a GUN <p> Does this bother anyone else?

  • May 31, 2007, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Gabrial Gray

    by RokurGepta

    Check this story out, this movie sounds like something you might be interested in <p> http://www.darkhorizons.com/news07/070531c.php

  • May 31, 2007, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Errr....the Gabriel Gay guy is still around???

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    After all he did on the other tb? Astonishing I say. He still seems to have some trouble with his caps lock...

  • May 31, 2007, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Colonel Activity

    by Abominable Snowcone

    But does the script suck more than going to South Dakota on vacation, with only Sammy Hagar VH discs in the car, and on arrival, you catch your ex making out with your best friend in a hotel lobby, which happens to be broadcasting CNN coverage of the war in Iraq on wall-mounted TVs? Say, what if your best friend happens to be another hot chick? Then it wouldn't be bad at all.

  • May 31, 2007, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Touche`

    by Colonel Activity

    Well played, Snowcone.

  • May 31, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Gabriel Gray = That guy with the bad TB case

    by Yack Backer

    Quarantine this kid!

  • June 1, 2007, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Prime looks goofy in an ET in the closet way

    by superninja

    standing outside the house. Ridic. Also, his legs look all wrong.

  • June 1, 2007, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Those big letters

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    start to hurt my eyes...

  • June 1, 2007, 7:19 a.m. CST

    last!

    by prime lips

    my bad

  • June 1, 2007, 5:03 p.m. CST

    TINO - Transformers In Name Only

    by Strajder

    That's right. Couldn't be more right. AND THEY ROCK!!! Just as G1 ROCKS! Come on, you guys. You know it is true. They are the Transformers of the 21st century, for Primus' sake! What about other generations? What about the latest cartoon series? Are they disgusting to you? And in each of them the Transformers are more or less different than G1.