May 26, 2007, 7:15 p.m. CST
netherlands is starting to get worse and worse!
May 26, 2007, 7:31 p.m. CST
by Atticus Finch
would this site still tout Roth's pieces of shit films or call him out for the hack he is?
May 26, 2007, 7:39 p.m. CST
That's about it.
May 26, 2007, 7:41 p.m. CST
Fuck the Cell!
May 26, 2007, 8:29 p.m. CST
by Red Dawn Don
www.hostel2.com ...... You are welcome you AICN ingrate posters. Notice that says "ingrate" not "incest" although both words may apply to some posters. That is all.
May 26, 2007, 8:55 p.m. CST
by Red Dawn Don
www.bloody-disgusting.com/bdtv/search.php?tag=Hostel+official&Submit=search ...... Hey if I keep finding these links we will not need to even PAY to see the movie in theatres. But you know we will. We are sheep.
May 26, 2007, 9:50 p.m. CST
I'm glad I'm gonna be nowhere near this one.
May 26, 2007, 10:25 p.m. CST
maybe I can find one with the AICN search engine!!!! <p> Seriously though, no early reviews yet?
May 27, 2007, 3:15 a.m. CST
... where did the original idea for Hostel come from? I forget.
May 27, 2007, 4:17 a.m. CST
could muppets with a fist up there arse type?
May 27, 2007, 6:01 a.m. CST
damn, yet another reason why i need to move my ass to austin. now if only he were gay . . .
May 27, 2007, 1:39 p.m. CST
...I heard it on the HOSTEL commentary...well, has he?
May 27, 2007, 4:29 p.m. CST
...ought to go and watch the original 'wicker man' and then give hostel pt 1 a second look. "How Do" indeed. you can thank me later.
May 27, 2007, 4:32 p.m. CST
where can i get my hands on one of those FUCKING amazing posters from comic con or whenever that was. the one with the nude girl holding the other girl's decapitated head in her hand. it is such a fucking shame that couldnt be the official poster for this film.<p>and another thing, is that Roth getting the blowjob in the thanksgiving trailer?
May 27, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST
Just wondering why not...
May 27, 2007, 6:51 p.m. CST
Just cause hes english. Eli Roth makes great american horror mixed with comic elements, Edgar Wright makes English horror mixed with english comical elements...its only natural that GG tries to talk shit about Eli in favor of his masturbation material that is Shaun of the Dead. <br> GG, go watch your fart jokes with 2 demensional characters while the rest of us enjoys REAL horror.
May 27, 2007, 7:05 p.m. CST
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE>to</span> be better than the film. I remember loving the marketing for HOSTEL 1, with all the proud prancing from QT, and all that. I hoped that the film might live up to the shock inducing propaganda. I saw <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">WOLF</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">CREEK</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> a week before I saw HOSTEL, and that one shocked the hell out of me. If you haven't seen it, do yourself a favor and rent it. Everything that flopped in Eli's flick worked in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">WOLF</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">CREEK</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>... </p> <p class=MsoNormal>But HOSTEL? What a disappointment. The special make-up effects sucked, the directing sucked, the story sucked ("Oh, look! There are all the bad people, conveniently lined up so I can run them over with my car!")... <span class=GramE>and</span> worst of all, it was about as shocking as a FRIDAY THE 13TH flick. </p> <p class=MsoNormal>I'm still wondering how Eli could fuck up such a great premise with all the money he spent. Can I hope this one will live up to the hype, finally? I love the marketing, again. <span class=GramE>So far so good....</span> Could the man actually deliver something good? </p> <p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE>Might have to wait for the unrated DVD to find out, though.</span> I don't know if I want to see it with the audience the flick will pull in. Talk about scary shit....</p>
May 27, 2007, 7:12 p.m. CST
<p class=MsoNormal>The headless girls in the poster you're talking about is Bijou Phillips, who has tits with more talent than her head has for acting... and that is her OWN head she's holding, which is one reason I love that poster. Fucking hilarious... but censored (censored right here in the land of the free - Fuck the <span class=SpellE>MPAA</span>). </p> <p class=MsoNormal>Anyway, that poster may be Eli's first bit of inspired directing, if you ask me, and that's <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>why I'm still gonna give the guy a chance to give me nightmares. Hell, Scorsese and Coppola did a <span class=SpellE>Corman</span> movie, and look where they ended up, right?</p>
May 28, 2007, 3:20 a.m. CST
May 28, 2007, 5:46 a.m. CST
To all you wannabe filmmakers , he made it , you're posting on a moviefan website. Who's the loser???????
May 28, 2007, 7:13 a.m. CST
If you don't understand why Eli Roth is complete hack who makes shitty movies then you just don't get it to begin with.
May 28, 2007, 7:18 a.m. CST
Speaking of horror flicks, I live in Budapest and just took a quick tour of the "100 Feet" set with my sons. It was my first time on a live set, so pretty cool. Took a pic of the exterior brownstone facade, and--of course--Famke Jansson's chair..
May 28, 2007, 8:22 a.m. CST
An Eli is the man.....accept that....
May 28, 2007, 9:24 a.m. CST
Had funny characters and a cleveer little plot.But Hostel was veeeerry dissapointing.It almost wasn't even a film ..more like a collection of scenes chucked together.The boring obnoxious characters, simplistic plotting and ludicrous ending (everyone the hero needed to get revenge on , was lined up one after the other in front of him!}rather spoiled it.The torture rooms should have been a revelation for the ending , in a kind of seconds /whicker man finale .. or at least an unexpected Audition payoff.Instead they built the whole add campaign around the torture.and it couldn't live upto it.
May 28, 2007, 10:41 a.m. CST
gee i wonder who it will be.
May 28, 2007, 12:38 p.m. CST
And good riddance, I say. I hate those fucking spammers
May 28, 2007, 12:40 p.m. CST
May 28, 2007, 5:16 p.m. CST
You made it. How many Oscars have you won....oh,right,right. You have to have talent for that.
May 28, 2007, 6:37 p.m. CST
but he probably works on a computer, yeah? he's a young guy, he's hip. so that begs the question, how does he get the diarrhea INTO the computer without clogging up his ports?<p>that guy is amazing...
May 28, 2007, 8 p.m. CST
that he turns shit into gold, right?
May 28, 2007, 11:19 p.m. CST
online roulette online roulette. <p> I am not a spambot, I just love typing the words "online roulette"
May 29, 2007, 12:20 a.m. CST
I'm sure he has turned figurative shit into figurative gold, or maybe figurative shit into literal gold (if he doesn't trust banks), but until he turns literal shit into literal gold, or figurative shit into literal gold, I'm will continue to be unimpressed.<p>I don't think he's the worst guy ever, he clearly loves horror films, and has just found a new niche, but I just find the hostel films SO boring, it's frustrating. I look at them as someone would look at a novel written entirely in text message lexicon. "ur 2 hot 4 skool" etc. etc. this sort of retardation of the medium of film, and even, of horror films.
May 29, 2007, 12:22 a.m. CST
the last part of the clumsy joke should read: "literal shit into figurative gold"<p>not that anyone gives a gold.
May 29, 2007, 2:52 a.m. CST
The last thing I would be doing is is contributing to a talkback on a now second rate website with a bunch of jealous wannabe filmmakers. We could ALL learn a lesson from the great man. I'd be doing that hot chick from Hostel 1....like the real Eli Roth is.
May 29, 2007, 3:15 a.m. CST
on ass kissing suck up cock smelling moron worship from cdp.<p>when's the tutorial, asshead?
May 29, 2007, 3:16 a.m. CST
You are contributing to a TB on this "second rate" website. You're pathetic, Eli Roth. We all know it's you. Face it. You're a hack. You're movies suck, and I'm sure your next movie will suck. Just enjoy the ten minutes of fame that you got, and move on.
May 29, 2007, 3:18 a.m. CST
Yeah, he's like Winston Churchill or something. Eli Roth is like Abraham Lincoln. IDENTICAL!
May 29, 2007, 3:46 a.m. CST
careful on the "your"/"you're" mistakes in your otherwise passable rant...
May 29, 2007, 3:47 a.m. CST
Why is it that guys like Eli Roth or Kevin Smith , guys with a fanboy history themselves who knows what its like to be just a fan dreaming of making it are treated worse than shit and guys like bryan singer etc who spit in the face of sites like this are treated as kings. I dont get it. Eli Roth took a chance , made a film and made an impact in the industry. May be if you into film as much as you say..that could be the way forward for you too? Oh and for the record...Lost sucks
May 29, 2007, 3:55 a.m. CST
when you say "treated", I assume you mean by the talkbackers, not Harry/Quint/Mori, etc.<p>that being the case, your implication is that certain filmmakers should get special consideration because they're a little geekier than the norm.<p>I give Roth credit that he was on Bravo's scariest movie moments, or whatever shit. and what does that buy him from me, the typical talkbacker? a comment to the extent of, "he seems like a cool guy, buuuuuut...." (which I said above, more or less)<p>at some point, you have to be a good filmmaker, not just a geek with a microphone. art is not supposed to be cathartic, it's supposed to be good. I don't fawn over filmmakers whose works I love, but who I hate as peaople. but I still watch the films and enjoy them.<p>Roth, in my opinion, has found a niche, and is face-fucking it as hard as possible, for as long as possible. maybe when Cell comes out, he will prove me wrong. I hope so, because I dug the book.<p>but either way, the filmmaker can suck as many TBers dicks as he wants, he still has to produce.<p>and by the by? if you think Bryan Singer, the director of Superman Returns, gets a free pass from the talkbackers...or even more, as you wrote, is "treated like a king"....you sir, are confused beyond belief. AICN talkbackers HATE superman returns...
May 29, 2007, 4:04 a.m. CST
You must appreciate that at least some of the unbridled hatred for these guys comes from a 'I could make a film like that' mentality a lot of talkbackers have. When truth be known , these guys while not Kubrick or Fellini , have managed a level of filmmaking skill to get their stuff out there. Look AICN is known for its...every movie sucks....style talkback but it just seems these guys get it worse than most and its the only reason I can think of...I don't think they are nearly as bad filmmakers as the majority here at AICN seem to think. But BadMrWonka , you made your point clearly and concisely....a refreshing change from the Lost.Rules type of talkbackers and I respect that.
May 29, 2007, 4:14 a.m. CST
fair enough.<p>I certainly can't argue that, in general, there aren't a huge host of TB posts born from the "I could do that" mentality, as you said. you're absolutely right, it's true, and it's unfortunate.<p>that having been said, no one says that about a lot of other filmmakers, who recieve an equal amount of shit for their choices (look at the new Batman TB for an example). they bitch and moan about every little thing, but no one has quite that same mentality of "this guy is a hack, I could do that shit", that happens with Roth.<p>now, I went to film school, I've shot a lot of short films, I'm in festivals, blah blah blah. point is, I'm not a 14 year old in my mom's basement. BUT, do I think I could shoot a horror film tomorrow better than Roth? no way. I don't LIKE horror films. I unnderstand that you have to love a style before you can devour it and make it your own. true of Spielberg with family adventure films, true of Moore with Docs, true of carpenter with B movie funfests, true of Bertolucci with envelope-pushing dramas...<p>but my complaint is not with Roth's LOVE for horror, it's for his lack of respect for fans. he has cleary seen what fans will pay for and see, and he is going to make those types of films (I think I referred to it a little less gracefully as "face fucking") until the well is dry.<p>if you love John Carpenter's "The Thing", (as he does, and hs gushingly SAID he does) then MAKE ANOTHER ONE! I would love it! but I think he's taken all of these separate componenents, thrown them in a bag full of youtube and myspace, and figured out a good business model for horror in the 21 century.<p>and part of me thinks, "god bless him" suck that teet dry, Roth. there are worse out there.<p>but part of me thinks, "come on...you are BETTER than this!!!"<p>and part of me thinks, "come on, I could do this shit!!!" ;o)
May 29, 2007, 4:37 a.m. CST
Anything Eli Roth directs thats horror related I love to watch, it has a unique style and humor with shock value (with plenty of gore). <br> <br> He should make "THANKSGIVING", and if the studio doesnt fund it, then he should make it with his own funds GIBSON style dammit!
May 29, 2007, 4:48 a.m. CST
I retract all negative statements I've said about Eli. Great Movie!
May 29, 2007, 10:29 a.m. CST
by TORTURE PWN
coming down on the side of unoriginality while bashing Roth for "lack his of respect for fans" are contradictory statements as far as I'm concerned,cdp.We've all had enough derivitive,rehashed and remade bullshit to last us awhile,I think.I'd rather follow Roth through his learning curve than follow someone like rob zombie around in circles.
May 29, 2007, 10:48 a.m. CST
by fish tacos
in the Hostel should have been actually horrifying and dramatic by waiting for the right moment... Hostel has it's problems, but the lousy reveal was a particularly pedestrian misstep.
May 29, 2007, 6:04 p.m. CST
Listen, I rarely post on here but I have to ask: Does no one else see that Eli Roth is trying to take horror in new directions? Look at Cabin Fever: he made a slasher flick without a fucking slasher (unless you count the disease, but still). In Hostel the "slasher" was the nature of man. For all the fucking bullshit movies Hollywood puts out that involve the same disaffected group of troubled youth getting stalked by a madman or other such entity, Eli's entries in the genre should be more than welcome.
May 29, 2007, 11:34 p.m. CST
I am pretty much burned out arguing with the Roth haters; every so often I post a defense of Hostel (Cabin Fever not so much, but everyone's gotta start somewhere), but the people determined to playerhate Eli Roth don't seem to be interested in actually discussing what they don't like, they just want to online roulette. Excuse me. They just want to be negative.
May 30, 2007, 1:56 a.m. CST
The one with Bijou Phillips holding her own head?? I can't find that shit anywhere!!! Obviously Eli Roth is a better marketer than a director; I want to see this damn poster. BTW, Cabin Fever is the worst 'horror' movie of the past TWO DECADES released by a major studio. imo.
May 30, 2007, 3:24 a.m. CST
by Nozoli Apples
I've seen it, and it was good. I wouldn't rank it as good as number one but Eli Roth has now made three movies, one trailer, and one series that I love, the guy is so great. The gore was good when they had it, though it was by no means a gorefest. I only have two complaints, one it was kind of short and two, they didn't show one death happen that they really should have. You know what I'm talking about if you watched it. So yeah I felt a little unsatisfied with the payoffs at the end and the length but overall it was great. You might want to look at this link very quickly... http://forumallfg.servtro.de/cms/modules/PunBB/viewtopic.php?id=15791
May 30, 2007, 8:20 a.m. CST
It had none of the stupidity seen in Roth's previous movies so I was surprised. The gore is pretty much all offscreen again and there isn't much nudity which is surprising with Bijou Phillips in the cast. I was surprised to see Heather Matarazzo hanging naked upsidown from a hook I can't imagine her 10 years ago after "Welcome to the Dollhouse" got such big reviews thinking "someday I'll be a piece of meat in a torture porn movie!"
May 30, 2007, 9:27 a.m. CST
Full length review seen here. http://tinyurl.com/pv8do
May 30, 2007, 10:45 a.m. CST
Well, by that statement "Hostel 2" is now the worst film ever released by a major motion picture studio in this hemisphere, replacing the previous leader in that category, "Hostel"... I'd rather watch Police Academy 17 than see a second of this film... Greg www.denvertvguy.com
May 30, 2007, 4:45 p.m. CST
It made me squirm in my seat, I wanted to see nasty stuff, I got it. This sequel is terrible. The only bit of creative violence is the upside down girl. The rest is nonsence, oh you decapitated someone as a finale Eli... genius. The supposed heavy hitting grim scene wasn't all that difficult to watch either, not a patch on blowtorch girl, Saw 3's skull operation or Auditions needles. The lead-in to the violence was way too boring as well, at least last time there were lots of boobies. The look at the workings of the organisation was interesting, but Eli clearly isn't talented enough to make a great idea into a reality. Some of the dialogue between the two American dudes was terrible... Overall, well and truly dissapointed.
June 1, 2007, 2:43 a.m. CST
<p class=MsoNormal>You thought that was a good special make-up effect? I thought it looked totally <span class=GramE>fake</span>. I thought all of Hostel's gags looked fake, although I admit, the set design and lighting was great. This is another reason it's a shame Eli couldn't make a better film out of <span class=GramE>a such</span> a great premise. But I kept thinking "Where's Tom <span class=SpellE>Savini</span> when you need him?"</p> <p class=MsoNormal>Anyone see <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">WOLF</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">CREEK</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>, for crying out loud? That's a shocker because it concentrates on being realistic. The DVD contains a deleted scene which is all gore (the scene in the well). They took it out because it detracted from the realism in the film. The realism as portrayed by the excellent actresses is what made that film so hard to sit through. When it comes to shock, it's not about the gore, it's about the acting. Hear that, Eli? <span class=SpellE><span class=GramE>A.C.T.I.N.G</span></span><span class=GramE>.</span> It's what a good director gets out of their meat puppets. Not that he cares, mind <span class=GramE>you,</span> he's rich, now, and he's about to get richer off of bad audiences, if you ask me.</p> <p class=MsoNormal>I would be pleasantly surprised if this sequel flopped. Now that would be shocking!</p>
June 1, 2007, 7 a.m. CST
June 1, 2007, 11:40 a.m. CST
Oh Dear... Don't wanna put up any spoilers seeing as the film ain't hit the theatres yet but this is a seriously badly thought out sequel. First off, I'm a Roth fan. I loved Cabin Fever's insane, don't give a fuck kind of tone and Hostel 1 was one of my highlights in cinema last year. So I was really looking foward to this one. In my humble opinion, everything that was wrong in the first one is repeated in this one and everything Hostel 1 got right Part II stomps all over and ruins it, showing that the creators didn't have a clue what message they were getting across to fans & really were just making a gorefest. The thing that really confuses me about it is it takes the best part of an hour to get us back to the torturehouse. WE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING. Hostel was a sweetly timed slow burning horror, building up the dread. We knew they would end up on that bloody chair but we never knew how. This time we did and need to sit through an hour of the same stuff. 3 Things that Hostel 2 prove: 1) Eli Roth is a closet homosexual who loves male nudity as much as female. 2)He really can't work well with actors, the acting was good in the 1st it was lines like "Oh yeah I didn't tell you, I seen a girl drown" stuff that let them down, but it wasn't too bad, in this Lauren German is the only one actor that walks away with any credibility. 3) If you're going to say "I have the sickest twist ending ever" actually give us one. Don't get me wrong it's sick but as for a twist, it just downright blows, it's rushed and not well thought out - the characters aren't developed enough to go through such a "Change". The sick part has also been done before by one Wes Craven. All-in-all it's a shitty film and I think Roth/QT/Harry Knowles and everyone who backed the rough, but showing promise, first know it. Will they have the balls to admit it, I doubt it. Cell better be a lot better or Roth is fucked (in terms of making genuine films) I'm sure his pillow made of $ helps him sleep at night. I had him with 2 good flicks, now I have him with one good film because Part II is so shit, it actually fucks up the premise of part I and ruins everything the fans had in their heads about the organisation etc. Poor Show.
June 3, 2007, 3:15 p.m. CST
by Mr Bonefish
You are a troll, believe it or not. But my main concern with your hypocrisy lies in your handle. Perhaps it should be "Man with Stool for Brains"? You will see the film so stop being such a Jealous Betsy. Peace.
June 6, 2007, 11:19 a.m. CST
Wow Harry, you are such a little bitch ass, cum dumpster. 7 freakin articles on Eli Roth and his lame wannabee attempts at horror ovies gets 7 articles on this site. But Danny Boyles 28 weeks later film gets like one or two? (ps I know Boyle didnt direct Weeks but u know what i mean) Don Murphy was right about you all along. You really are a worthless turd. I cant believe I actually wasted time going over there to defend you and this site, not too long ago. What a waste of my fucking time. Defending a loser fucktard with huge titties, who does absolutely nothing at all except shit on his ass eating breakfast nachos @ 1pm. I cant imagine the horrible trainwreck of a life you would be living if this site hadnt taken off in popularity. Can you imagine what life for you would have been like if you needed to rely on an actual skill or creativity? Maybe you could have turned into a video store clerk or maybe a movie theater employee working for minimum wage? Thats about it though. I hope you say a little prayer at night for your tiny bit of good fortune in an otherwise pitiful life. I guess the only way you get to sleep at night is thinking about your 7000 myspace friends after furiously masturbating to some obscure german horror movie thats only available on Betamax while looking at your naked picture of Eli that Im sure is in a folder on your desktop. Don Murphy was right about you Harry. And you know what? Ban me if that makes you feel any better. Because i wont take the time out of my life here in NY to come back to this p.o.s. and create yet another screen name. good day whore.
Feb. 3, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST
just checked out an unedited copy of the "heritgae of caligula" aka bloodsucking freaks. man was thie over the top and nothing like it ever since. full nudity and torture to death of beautiful women done in black humor with a zany midget and a vampire like magician performing to jaded new york critcs. it makes anything anyone else tries to do today seem so pathetic and i found the vhs tape in a 1.00 for sale bin at a san francisco video store. increidble. if only newer stuff like hostel 2, captivity or killers in the woods could be half as good.