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Brian De Palma's UNTOUCHABLES prequel, CAPONE RISING, loses a Cage, but keeps a king!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I'm not one of those people that automatically thinks Nicolas Cage is a horrible actor. He's done some shitty, shitty movies, but he's also done some great projects, and has been good in them. LEAVING LAS VEGAS, RAISING ARIZONA, FACE/OFF (sue me, I love that flick), ADAPTATION, THE ROCK, WILD AT HEART, MOONSTRUCK to name a few. Having said that, I'm glad he's left the Brian De Palma prequel, THE UNTOUCHABLES: CAPONE RISING. He had to drop the project due to scheduling issues. I like Cage and give him credit as an actor, but I didn't like the casting of him as Capone. He just didn't feel right. However, someone who does feel right is still on the project. Gerard Butler is still attached to the project, playing the character of Jimmy Malone, the younger version of Sean Connery's character from the original film. Who do you see as a good Capone? Who could live up to DeNiro? Hrmm...
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Christian Bale!
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Christian Bale!
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The prequel train continues-a-runnin'. And I still don't get it. Who likes these films? If David Lynch couldn't even make decent prequel, how can anyone else?
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Whoa, there fella! You're not in a position to even say his name.
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LET'S TAKE DOWN CAPONE, THEN DINE IN HELL!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! <p> That will be the extent of Butler's performance. 300 was gay.
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He was the bomb in Phantoms.
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AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! <p> Just had to get that in there.
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Star Wars: Episode -3: Dooku Rising - The first in a trilogy devoted to a young jedi who looks a bit like Dracula and dreams of never having important bits of himself cut off.<p>Recruiting Private Ryan - A bunch of brothers sign up for service in WWII. How many of them will survive?<p>Bruce Wayne Begins - The likable and entirely angst-free son a billionaire plays a lot of catch with his dad, but young Bruce has a date with destiny. Whatever could it be?
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It's a flattering comment, really. He is far and away the most talented director to have attempted a prequel (Fire Walk With Me) and even he failed. Hence, if he couldn't make it work, how can anyone else?<p>Now, if you want to accuse me of dissing Fire Walk With Me, that's fair enough. That film sucks fifty-seven varieties of ass. Poo, what a stinker!
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You know it.
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A younger versoin of DeNiro would have to be the camo made by the 2 by 4 plank of wood in The Rocks Walking Tall. The scene in the casino where the piece of wood smashes up the machines is in prime position for the Capone role. What is it with De Palma anyway? He only makes mafiaporn for 50 people in New York. Hollywood is guilty of giving the Mafia a glamour they dont deserve. And De palma is doing so now. Wubbish.
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Don't worry Frank I didn't get 'Fire Walk With Me' the first time either. The second time, I understood and it made me weep. You best watch it again, when you're old enough.
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It's all about Mamet!
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It's dull, it doesn't add anything to the story we already know from the series, and it has a horrible central performance from Sheryl ALL MY EMOTIONS ARE TURNED UP TO ELEVEN! Lee. Also, no Sherilyn Fenn, and what is Twin Peaks without Sherilyn Fenn. Goddamnit, she was hot back then.<p>So, you say you understand it. Help a guy out, would you? What am I missing?
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Just keep him off the source and away from any cars and he'd do a decent job methinks!
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I would love to see this, any thoughts?
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I'm a big Lynch fan, and Fire Walk With Me may well be my favorite of his work. I also consider it to be possibly the most disturbing film ever made, but if it ain't your thing, then it ain't your thing. You're not alone on this one, many critics hated it, even many Lynch fans look on it as one of his lesser works.
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De niro was like 44 when the untouchables came out...Cage would be about 44 in 2008...how the hell was he playing a younger capone...he wouldn't have been younger..Excuse me if I've calculated this wrong my math sucks.
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Save money and digitaly create Marlon Brando as Capone! Just take bits from his old movies.
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He'd be perfect.
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He's the right age, a great actor, and anyone who's seen Dead Man's Shoes knows he can be incredibly menacing.
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Chiklis is too old to play a younger Capone. Damn. :(
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is a masterpiece. If you can't recognise it as a quality piece of filmmaking all hope is lost. It'll be great if the hours worth of deleted scenes featuring all the characters from the TV show finally turn up on the new DVD release. "Give Sam Stanley the glad hand, he's just come down from Spokane!"
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I think he might have one last great movie in him. I do not think this is it.
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I hope, but doubt, that Lynch actually makes a longer cut, rather than just include the missing hours as individual deleted scenes. Imagine a four hour Fire Walk With Me! My brain would probably melt.
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If I've missed the point of Fire Walk With Me, can someone tell me what it is? I'm a big Lynch fan, so it gives me no joy to slate one of his films. I found it to be a dull retread of information already gleaned from the series, and I thought any attempt at portraying the tragic downfall of Laura Palmer was undone by Lee's over-acting. I've been told numerous times that I don't 'get it', but no one's been forthcoming with an explanation.<p>I hereby throw down the gauntlet to all Fire Walk With Me fans! Help a poor, ignorant Englishman understand this film!
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Yatta!
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There's your problem right there.
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I'd say Christian Bale for Capone! Hell, C.B. for all the roles, he's that good!
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Not able to justify your opinion? I notice you've failed to answer my question.<p>I thought we were having a nice, civil conversation here - you, me, C Legion, and kwisatzhaderach. David Lynch fans together and whatnot. And here you are, throwing out an insult instead of, I don't know, forming a rational thought. Funny that, since earlier you intimated that I wasn't old enough to appreciate FWWM.
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Because Daniel Day Lewis seemed rather De Niro-like in Gangs of New York.
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Shia La Boeueoiuaeoeuf
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I think you could do a solid Capone prequel flick, but why have Malone in it? It makes no fricking sense.
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I think to appreciate Fire Walk With Me you HAVE to buy into Lee's intentionally over the top performance, if you don't, as you do not, then the whole film crumbles. I wouldn't say you don't "get it" (I hate that), just that it didn't click for you. Give it another chance, and try to just let it flow, don't try to analyse it. Oh yeah, cameron1975willi is a prick, ignore the cunt.
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After seeing him in "The Departed," I can imagine him as Capone. He also still looks young enough to pull off this type of role.
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He'll become a bootlegger to save his lady.
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I think you may be right. Lee's performance was a big stumbling block for me. It's supposed to be a tragedy, this poor girl with her horrible life and her horrible dad, but she was so overwrought that it came off as laughable. Way too over the top for my taste. Was that the point? I don't know, but if it was deliberate, it seems like a shitty way to tell a story about a girl who was raped and murdered by her own father.<p>I gave it another chance recently (after watching the Twin Peaks box sets - how great was that show?) and it left me cold. Lynch hits all the plot point he's supposed to, but with the series still fresh in my mind it all felt a bit redundant. I already know about James and Bobby and Leo and all that. I know about her dad/Bob taking her and Ronette to the train car. Everything was old news. All I could think about throughout the film was, 'Why is such a talented man spending all this time going over ground he's already covered?'<p>Ah, well, we disagree, but at least we can disagree in a civilised manner. As for cameron1975willi, I'm going to assume he's taking a while to respond because he's composing an essay filled with insight that will blow my mind and completely turn me around on this Fire Walk With Me issue. Maybe...
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Here I am getting bogged down in a totally off-topic debate, and you turn up to remind why AICN is so great.<p>It's all about the sarcasm!<p>Thanks for the laugh, buddy.
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Hoo-ray for Hollywood!
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heh. Okay, I'm tired...
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Could it be anyone else?
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And God bless him for it. You won't find any deleted scenes either. Fire walk with me, eh, not that good or bad. It loses alot of steam towards the end. Blue Velvet is his Masterpiece!
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OK, I haven't seen a script. But if the script doesn't involve long dialog scenes for Capone. As long as the part of Al Capone involves lots of no more than 3 sentences at a time. Al Capone should be played by Domenick Lombardozzi. He was on Entourage as Dom, on The Wire as Det. Thomas 'Herc' Hauk and Miami Vice as Switek. He's a natural as Capone, he's not very well known, which plays perfect for this part and he looks like a young Al Capone if he grew his hair back.
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should be in this movie. He could tap the crazy side of the mafia. How come no one mentioned Bringing Out The Dead? That is a great film.
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That is one of single best bits of casting since Ewan McGregor was cast as young Obi-Wan I look forward to this movie.
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And then Brian De Palma can be hit by a truck maybe, so he can not further shame himself. CARRIE, BLOWOUT, SCARFACE, THE UNTOUCHABLES, CASUALTIES OF WAR, CARLITO'S WAY. It's been a good run, but it's over. There will be no DEPARTED for him, especially not if hes desperately trying to go back to the well.
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There's always the inevitable Bollywood 300 remake, with big fat Sanjay Dutt running around in a cape and underwear: "THIS... IS... MUMBAIIIIII!"
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I still think David Lynch should direct (and perhaps write) a season of 24. He's already worked with Kiefer (who played a federal agent in FWWM), and he could recruit some of the other agents from the movie and show (Chris Isaak, David Bowie, Miguel Ferrer, David Duchovny) and really screw around with people (like, perhaps, having the countdown clock start moving backwards). That's my dream. Plus, his work is full of good-looking women.
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"Bringsh a knife to a gun fight. Thatsh it, get outta heah, you dago bashtard...!"
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My work here is done
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Enough already. For the love of God.
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I don't think he'd do it in a million years, but that's a no brainer to me.
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Adrian Pasdar. If he could get the Chicago / Dinero accent down, I think he could pull it off well.
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Dian Bachar. Nobody else will suffice.
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Same generation, better actor. Maybe Daniel Craig if they want younger.
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That's a no brainer...whatever the heck his name is. Looks like a young De Niro, is bad ass enough, stocky, believable.
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Just thought i'd put the two topics together. Anyways I'd like to see anybody from the Departed but Dicaprio. Matt Damon, Mark Wahlberg or outside of that flick they can go with Micheal Imperioli or Val Kilmer. On a seperate note I'm going to throw this out there for everyone to get pissed over, I don't like David Lynch or his weird ass movies. I don't pretend to "get it" when a movie spends thirty minutes showing a midget slow dance or grass growing on the ceiling or what ever the fuck the director trys to pass off as "art" .Thats my dumb opinion and i'm sure I stand alone on that one. I thought what Verbenski did in ATW was very artistic in certain scene's so maybe i'm way off.
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Call it 'Capone Rising: In The Hood'. Here's the pitch: Will Ferrell is a down and out two-bit hood who's afraid of his own shadow. Enter a rough and tumble gangster on the rise from the mean streets of Chicago named J.J. 'Bootsy' Washington played by Chris Tucker. Bootsy teaches young Albert Capone to be a tough guy in a comical gangster coming of age movie fun for the whole family. Except in the end when Capone shoots Bootsy in the face with a machine gun and destroys an orphanage, thus marking his full transformation to the ways of the mafia. Cameo's by Ben Stiller as Druggie #4, Owen Wilson as Funny Cop, Jack Black as a Dancing Whore and Vince Vaughn as Papa Ness.
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This might actually have potential now.
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He gained the weight to play him the first time. He could pull it off.
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Nic Cage seems to be more miss than hit these days.
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really
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Michael Rappaport It would be inspired--demented, but inspired.
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Cage > Butler
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...DeNiro didn't even live up to DeNiro in the original movie, not even with his method silk underwear. As much of a chameleon as he's capable of being, he never stopped being DeNiro. Stanley Tucci was about a thousand times better in the Capone-esque role in Road to Perdition. For a younger Capone, I'd go with a true chameleon like Guy Pearce or Christian Bale (though maybe Bale has too much baggage now that he's Batman). Or what about Scott Caan?
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...Napoleon Park beat me to it. He is the spitting image and would be the career move he needs.
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if he could speak better english. he is the scariest most intense actor around when he wants to be.
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as a younger Capone?? Jeez, the guy looks ten years older than his actual age already. Isn't there a Breslin kid to play baby Capone?
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Loved Untouchables...cast Chicklis as Capone, and I'll f'ing be there for this one.
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they still want to call this Capone Rising?
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Shoulda been Bob Hoskins back in the day, that way now it could be... I don't know, Mark Addy.
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Hah! Would love to hear Butler's Malone say that.
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The Untouchables: Capone Rising, Hannibal Rising, Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning, Batman Begins. Rising, The Beginning, Begins. I understand the whole "original title followed by a subtitle" thing for marketing purposes, but can't these people do any better than looking for synonyms of "start" in a thesaurus? You can bitch all you want about titles like Live Free or Die Hard, but thank the fuck Christ *someone* is being a little imaginative in the sequel/prequel-titling department.
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For a guy with supposedly tons of supporters, including many on this site, I've yet to see anyone give a credible argument as to why anyone should still be giving him money to make films. Over the last decade he has made some of the worst films I have ever seen. Especially The Black Dahlia, which was just behind X3 as the worst of last year. And with a name like Capone Rising I think we are in for another unintentionally laughable B-movie from the guy who does 'em best, errr worst.
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-W.T.S....
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Harland Williams should play Capone. My genius is unquestionable. So let it be written, so let it be done!
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The best guy to plausibly play a younger verson of the caharacter DeNiro realized, although the man is by no means the same actor as DeNiro, is Ed Norton - and he and Gerard Butler share a certain theatricality that's very in touch with DePalma's style and the Untouchables as a film. DePalma would go for that quirky, slightly hyper perfomance so many directors have screwed up with Norton, and he's det it right. Ed could leave that performance behind him finally, get challenged in a way he can't be by stuff like Italian Job, and Gerard Butler would have someone worthy to argue semantics with afore cracking upside the chops with a fist like a canned ham.
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or whatever the guy who played Christopher from the Sopranos was. I could see that.
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Gandolfini. He's done with the Sopranos now, anyway, and needs work.
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Kingsbury Run serial killer that Ness faced when he was older and the mayor of Cleveland. It's a freaky, true story. Costner could even play him again since it was years after the Capone stuff.
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In the same way that John Rambo is a derivative title, only that's okay because Stallone took the idea from himself with Rocky Balboa. <br>,<br> Franklin T Marmoset, I haven't seen Fire Walk with Me in a million years! And I haven't seen the series in long time either (all the dvd's are in storage right now but just as soon as I move, I'm cracking that stuff open man) but didn't the series end lead us to believe it was Laura's father, and then the film imply it was her father as possessed by the one armed man? I duno, I was reading Faulkner at the time of viewing and remember thinking FWWM was effin brilliant. But you sound like you've seen it more recently so I won't imply you're a stooge for not getting it. Which, for the record, is a lame ass thing to say to anyone even if they ARE British, just cuz their opinion differs from yours. ok that last part was a joke...
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Jeremy Pivens nuff said
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Jeremy Pivens
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Seriously.
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Mark Ruffalo.
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Shit, she's in everything else.
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How about Charlie Sheen in the performance of his fucking life? Surely, he's been saving up his *ACT*ing ability all this time. What other reason would he have for looking like he's sleepwalking in ever role?
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not to sound pedantic, but Eliot Ness was not the mayor of Cleveland. He was the Public Safety Director (whatever the hell that position is). And I think they were called the Torso murders, named because all of the victims were beheaded. Anyway, you're right, it would make a kick ass movie.
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charlie sheen
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Boffo!
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Fire Walk With Me is the single greatest portrayal of the effects of incest on a family I've ever seen put to film. It stripped away the layers of metaphor the show was built around and exposed what was underneath. The scene at the dinner table alone, when Wise is berating Lee about her dirty fingernails, is scarier than 92% of the crap that passes for 'horror' these days. Although I wouldn't call it Lynch's best film, it is my favorite.
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His contribution to the first one seems pretty vital.
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Should retire. Yesterday. He was never that great to begin with, but the train wreck that is his career over the last decade-plus is just embarassing. He's not even entertainingly awful anymore, like he was in his Raising Cain/Bonfire days.
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"Di Caprio is just like a young De Niro. He should be cast. He can pull this off." If you meant that, if you actually fucking believe what you just wrote, I will go John Motherfucking Rambo on you. You want your throat, guts and head to stay where they are, then you better take back those hideous blasphemous words.
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Thanks to you both for the comments. Anton - I get what you're saying, but like I said ealier, I think Lee is cute as all hell but a horrible actress, and her constant over-emoting pulled me right out of the story. That kind of exaggeration only works in comedies for me. chia - If you're thinking about watching the series again, you should do it as soon as you can. I watched the DVD sets recently (not having seen it since it first aired on telly) and I was floored by how good it was, especially season one. That pilot episode is better than most feature films.
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Philip Seymour Hoffman is the only actor that can play a young Capone and live up to the hype. After his performance in M:I-III, I have no doubt he can be a badass Capone.
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If we already know the ultimate fate of Malone and Capone, then what's the point of the movie? Seems like a bad idea, and even an over-acting goofball like Nicholas Cage realized it.
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It's a left field choice but he'd go the distance and pull it off.
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ONLY TWO POSSIBILITIES IN MY BOOK. EDWARD NORTON + 30 LBS PHILIP SEYMORE HOFFMAN AS IS
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like most of the others that hollywood has been sumppumping for the last 10 years?
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If he could do the accent of course. I think he'd be a good Capone.
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he's need to pack it on a bit, but dammit - he's an awesome actor.
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I can't imagine anyone doing a better young version of Deniro's Capone. I know he isn't that old but they could make that work. When I saw Gangs of New York I thought he was amazing. That movie wouldn't have been anything without him. He's perfect for capone.
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Nick Vallelonga if he's not busy.
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Ribisi is really good, the best choice so far IMHO, especially if he gained a few pounds. <p>Chiklis would be better if he was slightly younger. <p>JASON ALEXANDER? To see him do a Capone freak out would be downright scary! Nobody would see it coming because most people relate him to his Costanza character. Throw a rug on his melon to de-age-ify him a bit... It's the most odd choice, but inspired nonetheless. <p>...That is, if they couldn't get DeNiro de-age-ified X3 style. <p>(j/k)
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