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Mark Burnett & Steve Spielberg
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You say you’re finding it difficult to get the skinny fabulous blonde starlets to sleep with you?
We recommend you leapfrong over the pack and breed well above your station. How? Ask Brett Ratner (the “Rush Hour” series), who judges Fox’s new reality filmmaking competition “On The Lot.”
Here’s how it works. Out of 12,000 aspiring filmmakers who turned in submissions, 50 semi-finalists are flown out to Hollywood. (Or at least the ones that don't already live there are flown out to Hollywood.)
The youngest semi-finalist is Amy, 21, a “freelance director“ living in Los Angeles.
The oldest semi-finalist is Mateen, 41, a teacher living in Los Angeles.
Find the names and ages of all 50 semi-finalists here.
Superstar filmmaker Ratner (“Money Talks,” “Family Man,” “Red Dragon,” “After The Sunset,” “Prison Break”) and his fellow judges (Jon Avnet, Garry Marshall and Carrie Fisher) decide who will become the contestants who make the films. Viewers vote on which films they like best. One of those contestants will become the big-time filmmaker. Hello, sexy young starlets!
Will “Project Greenlight” vets Pete Jones, Erica Beeney, Efram Poetelle, Kyle Rankin, John Gulager, Marcus Dunstan and Patrick Melton be watching the premiere? Hard to say! I know I will be!
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May 22, 2007, 4 a.m. CST
by Horror Freak
um yeah... will this like most tricks and ploys of the major media just furthere deteriorate the film business... this i say as i want to be a director... eh
May 22, 2007, 6:28 a.m. CST
because I don't watch this lame "reality" shit. They should have just called this "Suck Ratner and Spielberg's Cock", because if these deluded contestants think they'll get free reign on whatever feast on scraps contract they're thrown, they're sorely mistaken.
May 22, 2007, 7:21 a.m. CST
by Napoleon Park
to view, review and grade TWELVE THOUSAND short film projects, and where can I get that job?
May 22, 2007, 7:41 a.m. CST
They didn't have the ballz to select Damon Packard. Despite his entry. Wimpz.
May 22, 2007, 7:46 a.m. CST
by Kevin Bosch
Brett Ratner. Imagine being a talented, inspired filmmaker that just happens to get on this show, and then learning that the whole game involves making the kind of movies that please a hack.
May 22, 2007, 7:59 a.m. CST
Yeah, they'll let a guy like Ratner, who has all the talent of a coffee cup, judge something. Because I know film analysis 50 and 100 years from now will be all about the hidden subtext in "Money Talks" or "Rush Hour".
May 22, 2007, 8:35 a.m. CST
by Kevin Bosch
...making third instalments that nobody else wanted to make. The simple fact that Ratner has the availability to judge this reality show says enough about him.
May 22, 2007, 6:49 a.m. CST
by Harold The Great
I bet a lot of this show will involve getting your foot in the door, get your name out there, making important friends, appear in style, introduce some starlet's knees to her ears so the crew will respect you, etc. In those matters, there's no better judge than Rattner.
May 22, 2007, 7:53 a.m. CST
THIS is their judge panel?? *sigh*<br> <br> Also with the idea of the viewers voting on which are the "best" films and thus who goes on to get the best opportunities... lest we not forget in the not too distant past movies like "NORBIT" and "WILD HOGS" inexplicably cleaned up at the box office, so clearly leaving decisions in the hand of the viewers will not necessarily (in fact, almost certainly) extract truly the most "talented" individual filmmakers in said contest.
May 22, 2007, 10:14 a.m. CST
I hate that Ratner stuff, and the show might be frustrating, but I think it is great that people are already trying to contact some of the top 50. Undeserving or not, they all seem pretty talented to me. At least 50 fanboys are getting a true break.
May 22, 2007, 10:16 a.m. CST
Kill a franchise much?
May 22, 2007, 10:46 a.m. CST
his movies make money. Maybe, just maybe, Hollywood is run by money. Think about it. They're not looking for the next Speilberg or Scorsese...they're looking for the next person who doesn't really care about having a vision. They're looking for the person who can direct what they're told--a by-the-books money-maker.
May 22, 2007, 8:52 a.m. CST
Ratner is a competent director. Is he a director who has a certain, disctinctive style? No, of course not. He's a commercial director. I understand that people wanna jump all over him to an extent, but Jesus Christ! You're all lemmings, tumbling off the cliff after one another...I guarantee a lot of you LIKED Red Dragon when you first saw it...maybe even the first Rush Hour, but you can't admit it now, can you? Actually, I hope Brett Ratner and Shawn Levy have a love child and that spawn grows up to direct half of all future movies. Not really, but y'know.
May 22, 2007, 9:11 a.m. CST
Schrodinger's Bedroom, at http://films.the lot.com/films/35785 (remove space). Didn't get a callback for the second round, but it was a lot of fun (I didn't start work on it 'til a month before deadline) and I learned a lot from the experience. Trying to see what some of the semi-finalists did for their entries...
May 22, 2007, 11:32 a.m. CST
... And they only interviewed 200. What a bunch of assholes. The top 50? All majorly funded projects under their wings. The whole "pick up a camera and send something in" thing being touted was a total load UNLESS you were a woman. Seen any of the entries by the chicks? Terrible. God awful. They were bending over backwards to find even a handful that didn't try to EAT the camera or something equally retarded. I'm incredibly disappointed. If they had just cast their net wider, I likely wouldn't be as harsh, but this was pathetic.
May 22, 2007, 11:34 a.m. CST
Ahhhh, Tuesdays. Don't even get me started on why Ratner is to not be a judge. A guest judge? OK. But the show to show judge. Fuck me this show went down the drain QUICK.
May 22, 2007, 9:59 a.m. CST
Perhaps Ratner is a "bland" director like all the lemmings on this board seem to think he is. I don't know. All I know is that I'd watch X3 ten times in a row before I'd sit through Superman Returns or PJs King Kong once. I'd also watch Red Dragon over Hannibal any day of the week. The guys simply isn't that bad. He makes decent movies. Where this seething hate comes from is beyond me.
May 22, 2007, 10:32 a.m. CST
Carrie Fisher is the judge who's going to be on every episode, at least from what I heard. The others are rotating. Why is everybody jumping on Ratner but not on the filmmaking abilities of Mrs. Fisher? For the record, I like the guy. He makes commercial films that make money...not everything has to be great art to be enjoyed, and I at least enjoyed X3, the Rush Hour movies, After the Sunset, etc...
May 22, 2007, 12:36 p.m. CST
...the problem is they claim to want to find "talent," but they're a reality TV show, people. So they're going to want the cliched characters found on said shows (i.e. flaming homo-sexual, bitch, token black-guy, etc.) They need those types to provide the show with the "outrageous" moments that viewers turn to reality TV for. What gets lost in the mix are the talented young filmmakers they claim to be searching for...which is why I did not submit any of my short-films. It's like AMERICAN IDOL; they've flat-out turned down damn-good (if not great) singers in the audition-process b/c they don't fit their mold (i.e. easily turned into TV "characters!") My best friend (also a young filmmaker) said it best. "Why would people want to spend 13 weeks watching a bunch of egotisical dorks make short-films? Isn't this already treading on territory that PROJECT: GREENLIGHT covered years ago? But I guess it's a 'brillant idea' b/c Burnett's doing it and Spielberg's involved!"
May 22, 2007, 1:13 p.m. CST
by Samuel Fulmer
Or at least that's always been the rumor about her. I remember reading somewhere that she did some work on Hook and The Phantom "Yippee!!!" Menace.
May 22, 2007, 1:57 p.m. CST
by Kevin Bosch
He gets his movies done, and without much fuss, which I'm sure the studio bosses like. He's a hired gun. He's the guy they go to when they need to find somebody who's available to shoot something quickly, because it's not like he has some passion project in the works. I have no real problem with Rush Hour, and I think the issues with X-Men 3 are far beyond him (hiring him was just one of the many mistakes the studio made that compromised the film) and he actually did the best he could. As a film watcher, I'd rather see an interesting failure (Hannibal) then a mediocre success (Red Dragon). I'd rather see a singular vision that I may not totally agree with (Superman Returns) then a studio dictated concoction (X3; what Ratner's Superman would've been). Even Michael Bay is more of a filmmaker, because even though he makes strictly mainstream fair, he does it with a very specific personal style. If Ratner could show that he was going somewhere with his craft, even if it were a Michael Bay route, it would be better then the okay movies he makes now. But really, Ratner will show up for whatever movie, music video, reality show, supermarket opening they offer him, as long as he's getting paid. But you know what, a movie-making reality show with Ratner judging wouldn't surprise me, since that it what will be expected in Hollywood. What bothers me, as someone that would have submitted an entry, is that this show has been promoted with the Spielberg name this whole time, only to switch him out for a lesser/different director at the last minute. It's like entering a film festival organized by David Lynch, then finding out that Spielberg would be the one ultimately judging your film.
May 22, 2007, 2:35 p.m. CST
...is that a lot of the people on the show are going to get deals in town because execs fall in love with their character on the show. This of course won't help the state of filmmaking today which is all style over substance for the most part. Hopefully, execs will remember what happened to all those winners of Greenlight and won't be so quick to give projects and development deals to tv show characters. I know I sound bitter, but I work in the industry and twits like this will get hired for movies I want to work on because of this show and then I'll get hired 6 months later to do a page one rewrite on these hacks.
May 22, 2007, 4:03 p.m. CST
I'm not a Ratner fan. Far from it. But regardless of whether or not he is a hack director, he is versed in the business, and his taste of what other filmmakers create might not be any more or less valid than ours. I remember seeing a list of his favorite films recently, and it was a fairly respectable list. So he might not be able to emulate greatness, but he could know greatness when he sees it.
May 22, 2007, 4:24 p.m. CST
by I Own You
Of course, the episodes may run a week over the hour format and get petty (but that's good TV!). As well, many may need to get parental permission to comment (but that's the Target Market!)...
May 22, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST
by Evil Chicken
I’ll definitely be watching and looking forward to participating in “On The Lot II” when it happens. Now, let’s see something cool.
May 22, 2007, 5:17 p.m. CST
I was called twice by two different casting directors. They really seemed to like my entry. The divider was the other requirement: the director's intro video. It was a one minute 'talk about yourself'. The importance of that video was as important (if not more important) than the film you submitted. This only became clear after the fact. Many directors with good films didn't pass this test. It is a t.v. show after all and being telegenic (while not being at all important in the real world of being a director) certainly was a factor in being cast on the show. And in fairness, if the intro wasn't directed with style (as opposed to just sitting in front of a camera and talking) your chances again diminished. For those who care, here's the link to my submission: http://films.thelot.com/films/124
May 22, 2007, 6:05 p.m. CST
May 22, 2007, 6:27 p.m. CST
Maybe next week.
May 22, 2007, 6:55 p.m. CST
I can't make the decision whether to watch this or not until he tells me it's ok. I don't want to be a moron.
May 22, 2007, 7:04 p.m. CST
by Kevin Bosch
You totally got the 80s feel down. It's really impressive. Like to see the full thing.
May 22, 2007, 7:18 p.m. CST
...just ask Eli Roth. (Or Mr Michael "I get my makeup people to do a makeover on me before I step onto the set" Bay) Of course, the exception may be Peter Jackson, who looks like a bag of hairy pumpkins that someone left out in the sun and then sat on.
May 22, 2007, 7:47 p.m. CST
by Fing Fang Foom
Did anyone see his ridiculous cameo on Entourage? What a desperate tool! Really pathetic. His parents had a ton of money and connections, so congrats, you're a servicable director with a hankering to be a celebrity. Stay behind the camera and spare us from having to look at you.
May 22, 2007, 8:53 p.m. CST
by My Ass Smells
Who the hell picked his stupid as to be a judge? better yet... who the fuck even knew Carrie Fisher was alive?
May 22, 2007, 9:46 p.m. CST
Because I hate all reality shows. And, I have a degree in film production, and one of my friends who is getting his degree in film production isn't going to watch it. We both feel that we don't want to watch a show that reminds us how frustrating and depressing it is to see someone else make it who really doesn't have that much talent. In some of the promos, I wanted to hit that one guy who is bragging about how he is going to be famous because he was born to make movies and he's known since he was little that he is destined to be a big time director. Hey asshole, who's ass are you trying to kiss? This show isn't produced by Quentin Tarantino so you don't have to try to impress everybody by sucking his cock. I'm sorry, I just have no desire to watch this show just to see a bunch of spoiled kids who obviously had money to be able to produce these short films to begin with. It's like when I was in film school, and we were all showing our final projects, and most of us didn't really have big budgets to make ours look professional, then this one guy comes in and shows his, and he had professional ADR work, and had impressive looking special effects, and he had good camera lighting, everything. Well, come to find out later he has friends and relatives who work in the industry who helped him out, he even had some semi-famous TV actors in his short. Needless to say, almost all of the other students who had struggled, and lost sleep, and starved just to get a semi-crappy looking film done really hated this guy afterwards.
May 22, 2007, 9:52 p.m. CST
by THE KNIGHT
May 22, 2007, 11:01 p.m. CST
Women are almost universally bad filmmakers. So did you notice how many women were in the semi-finals? That means that some talented guys probably lost their place just because Fox wants to be politically correct. You know I'm right. The best female filmmaker out there is Adrienne Shelley and she's in the ground.
May 22, 2007, 11:40 p.m. CST
by Neo Zeed
I bet that a bunch film school grads look exactly like those guys on the show (Young dudes and feminist chix with cliche' hipster hairdos.) They talk like loud salesmen and can't wait to drop da film school lingo (I wanna pan back, do 360 zoom, and dolly back yadda, yadda, yadda)It could be funny on HBO where they can curse and stuff (Project Greenlight style). Also, I wish they would've dropped the pitch portion and got to the 2 minute short movie stuff faster. That would've been cool. I'll still watch next week.
May 23, 2007, 12:06 a.m. CST
May 23, 2007, 12:17 a.m. CST
No one will hire most of these people. In fact what they probably didn't realize is how reality television only serves to make them look small and silly and common. The one guy who could pitch the Priest movie will definitely get work though if he has a feature length writing sample that is decent. Some of those other guys felt like they were the rejects they put through on American Idol just for laughs in the audition phase. It never ceases to amaze me how the intent of most reality tv is to humiliate the participants. Even the judges mocking them behind their backs only served to make some them look stupid. I was under the impression this show wasn't going to do that and I was wrong. And to the guy slapping the belt on the floor -- that might be the worst pitch I've ever seen/heard and I once heard a guy pitch a movie about a traveling gas chamber. You win.
May 23, 2007, 12:25 a.m. CST
because feast rocked.
May 23, 2007, 1:35 a.m. CST
May 23, 2007, 1:39 a.m. CST
I don't think he's as much of a hack as he is just a generic director. He doesn't make great movies, he hasn't made a really bad movie like Bay, Anderson, or Bol. He is just there, nothing more, nothing less. However I think given the chance, if he comes up with an original idea that he has a passion for, Ratner could perhaps be capable of greatness. I certaintly think he would have been a lot better choice to direct Transformers. At least we might have gotten something that looks like G1 instead of the NASA put together Rover Robots we're getting instead.
May 23, 2007, 1:41 a.m. CST
IS Ratner capable of an original thought? Is he capable of doing something great? Time will tell. For now his films are just........ adequate. I get the feeling his films are done the way the execs tell him to direct.
May 23, 2007, 2:13 a.m. CST
My entry was definitely inspired by 'Poltergeist', 'Explorers' and some other cool popcorn movies. Glad you picked up on the whole 80's summer movie aesthetic - not an easy thing to replicate!
May 23, 2007, 3:11 a.m. CST
Get it judged by the TBers , might not be a bad thing actually for a few folks genuinely wanting to improve their craft. Thick skins not included.
May 23, 2007, 3:50 a.m. CST
I watched tonight's premiere episode. What a HUGE piece of shit. The minute that Carrie Fisher uttered "log line"-- and then gave a lame explanation of the term-- I knew this show was a goner. It didn't help that Fisher then explained 5 different "log lines"-- and her descriptions barely matched the print on the screen. What a sad, sad joke. The majority of America will not give a rat's ass about this. The only way this show isn't cancelled? Someone at Fox owes something to-- or is attempting to curry favor from-- Spielberg. My guess is you better have "FX"-- cause that's where this is going to play out later this summer... In between their 4 Trillionth re-run of that Summer feel good blockbuster "Independence Day".
May 23, 2007, 4:18 a.m. CST
But you lost me with Brett Ratner.
May 23, 2007, 4:57 a.m. CST
How do you start with 12000 film makers from 33 countries and end with like 45 Americans and 5 non-Americans.
May 23, 2007, 5:01 a.m. CST
...that's a hella cool idea. Harry and the gang should consider it. Seriously.
May 23, 2007, 5:17 a.m. CST
That film of yours is absolutely brilliant, and I think you were done a huge favour by not appearing on the show. Well done, son! I would love to see the whole thing. Cannot believe anyone could top that. Explorers/Poltergeist/CE3K etc references all over the place, but it had it's own thing too. Great stuff!
May 23, 2007, 6:03 a.m. CST
by Evil Hobbit
...was very cool!
May 23, 2007, 7:17 a.m. CST
by Sit and Watch
Film kids are such bitches. It is funny to see them on TV. Not liking the contestants isn't a reason to NOT watch, it's why I'll watch. I love these competition shows- someone thinks they're hot shit, they brag and boast and run their mouthes about their dreams, only to have them crushed moments later. Good stuff...
May 23, 2007, 9:46 a.m. CST
by Mr Incredible
Man, did she looked weathered. What the hell happened besides bitterness and old age?
May 23, 2007, 9:55 a.m. CST
Would have won hands down. I liked that trailer.
May 23, 2007, 10:44 a.m. CST
BIG TIME. making movies is extremely boring. making student films is boring AND pretentious.
May 23, 2007, 12:23 p.m. CST
The show was kinda boring. It was about filmmaking but no films were shown. A couple pitches were nice, and yes, I loved Belt Boy. I want to be entertained. I don't want to see a series of Maid in Manhattan pitches. Give that guy a role in an Edgar Winter flick... or throw him some cash to dish out an action/comedy. It is clear that the belt thing was a calculated risk. He took their request to "bring energy" and he mistakingly brought it in spades. He's a bright guy. His intro video clearly shows that. His name: Jeremy Corray.
May 23, 2007, 12:23 p.m. CST
From Zap2It.com: The premiere of FOX's new series "On the Lot" bled a lot of its "American Idol" lead-in Tuesday, allowing ABC to take the overall ratings title for the night. ABC took the lead at 9 p.m. with the "Dancing" finale, 14.6/22. CBS moved up one spot with its movie "Jesse Stone: Sea Change," 8.5/13. The premiere of the filmmaking competition "On the Lot" posted a 5.4/8 for FOX, squandering well over half its lead-in and also falling significantly in its second half-hour. Ouch for Fox & Burnett...
May 23, 2007, 1:04 p.m. CST
No matter how many big names are involved, I don't see much hope for this show. The idea has been tried before, not just Project Greenlight but also Film School (Bravo). The low ratings of those two series proves that filmmaking is mainly of interest to people who are already making films or want to. It does not have appeal to a mainstream TV audience.
May 23, 2007, 1:05 p.m. CST
After years in the business, directing some well-known, commercially successful films, he still is not a household name. No one knows who he is. They know his movies but not him. When I told some friends (all movie fans) he was directing X3, they all said "who?". Ratner is successful in the sense that he has a well-paying careet but he now wants the average joe to know his name. Plus he has a movie to promote.
May 23, 2007, 1:35 p.m. CST
Most American's could give a shit about the actual business of making movies. They just want to buy their bootlegged shitty dvd of whatever the current Ben Stiller movie is and mindlessly sit in front of their boob tube stuffing their fat faces. That being said I am interested in the industry and I still had to work to sit though one whole episode of this mess.
May 23, 2007, 1:51 p.m. CST
by Wed Vid Guy
Is it just me or were the pitches that scored the most unoriginal ideas. I felt like I've seen those films before. Bring on the priest in love with a posessed chick movie. I'll watch it.
May 23, 2007, 2:37 p.m. CST
by Wed Vid Guy
And got Uwe Boll as one of the judges. One of the challenges could have been who could kick his ass. Missed opportunity!
May 23, 2007, 2:55 p.m. CST
by Mister Man
Worse than a bad episode of "The Apprentice." Burnett just keeps rehashing the same garbage. Who the HELL is that host? Carrie Fisher looks like Jabba the Hut. I made it through one hour. I'm also one of those film school grads (mid 80s) - "log line??? Guess I'm getting old - however, my subsequent involvement has been only in production, so I don't relate to the pitches. "Greenlight" was a hell of a lot better.
May 23, 2007, 4:12 p.m. CST
I really appreciate your kind words about my submission. It's so hard to get a short film seen - no matter the quality. I didn't watch the show last night. I have the feeling I wasn't cut out for reality t.v.'s orchestrated mayhem. I was holding out hope that the show would show a clip from my film in their television spots but I got lost in the shuffle. My next film will be feature length and I won't be submitting it to any reality show contests.
May 23, 2007, 4:34 p.m. CST
That tubby bastard will whore himself out for anything. Plus Fisher would not look so bad if she had that sitting right next to her.
May 23, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST
by Buzz Maverik
We're supposed to be entertained by the poor guys that couldn't pitch? Or those two bitchy guys that were put together to make the film (notice that guy number 3 didn't say a fuckin' word)?<p>These guys cried because this is their dream. It's everything to them. I don't want to see that.<p>You have to wonder how real some this shit is (like, duh!). I mean, don't these people know anything about the industry they are pursuing? While I have sympathy for the guys who blew the pitches (and I might have done the same thing if my ass was up there), couldn't they figure out that they needed to pretend to be Ratner (whom they claim to admire). I liked Ratner a lot better as a judge than as a director. He seemed like a cool guy. I like to think if I got nervous up there, I'd just pretend to be Ratner.<p>And those two assholes making the film. Yeah, I know, drama, entertainment, the show. Bullshit. If you and I get a chance to make a film together and we hate each other on sight, we're both smart enough to acknowledge it, agree to a temporary alliance and check our egos and make the best piece of shit we can, right? <p>Again, it's got to be easier said than done, but except for the chick with the glasses and that Andrew Hunt guy and the father from Texas, didn't any of these humps know that a director is supposed to run things? Sometimes that means being a terrorist, sometimes it means being a mommy, whatever the fuck it takes to make the movie.<p>And, my god, were those...what they call loglines now...weren't they the dumbest shit you've ever heard. If this is real, the decent pitches that came out of it are a testimony to the pitcher's talent. I could not imagine wanting to see those movies or how any of them could be done anyway except as comedy.
May 23, 2007, 4:49 p.m. CST
Now i'm not going to apologize for the show. It was poorly put together, and showcased nothing of interest in regards to the challenges presented. But to gripe about the quality of the contestants themselves? What are you judging this on, exactly? I know it's not based on what you saw on the show, because the show didn't feature their films. So you looked at the website, and saw a lot of shoddy work. So did I. That's why there were only 200 callbacks as opposed to 12,000. And that's why there are only 50 contestants as opposed to 200. It's not easy to just wade through and find the outstanding work. Now I speak from a different position. I have a very good friend who was on that pilot episode. I don't know if he'll be going on as one of the 18 finalists or not. But I do know that he's both a damn good filmmaker, and a damn good writer. And I know that he made his entry film for about $15 worth of props, and some borrowed equipment. So funding is a myth. I also know that several of the other finalists were working with a lot less money than people assume. Good indie filmmakers know how to stretch a dollar, and how to beg, borrow, and steal. Sadly, the show gave the audience none of this knowledge. Those loglines? Yeah, pretty bland. If you're unimaginative. Seriously, there was so little restriction in those descriptions, any of those loglines could be made into any genre of film. What that task was designed to do was separate the nervous from the bold. It also let the judges know who the real writers were out of the group. It's not a dumb task, it's just poorly represented on this show. Here's hoping that Fox realizes that before they find themselves looking at another cancelled series.
May 23, 2007, 5:46 p.m. CST
by Calico Pete
...those of you criticizing her looks, sheesh fuckers. Let's see you when you're 50. I don't hear you complaining that Ratner looks like an overripe kiwi, or that Marshal's no George Clooney. Fuck that. And yes, she's a screenwriter, and a well-respected one.
May 23, 2007, 6:04 p.m. CST
It's weird because I thought i would find something of interest in this show but as a struggling filmmaker myself, I thought OTL was pretty shitty. Also - I fucking HATE the false, edited 'moments' of friction that seem to be a hallmark of these Mark Burnett produced 'Apprentice' & 'Survivor' type shows. Case in point: Those two assholes who were having a pissing competition instead of just getting on with making the 3 location short - every 5 seconds there's a comment followed by a slow-mo reaction shot and a sound byte pasted over the top that tries to create a heated moment where there clearly wasn't one (of course that doesn't take away from the fact that they were both ignorant assholes who need to realise that the art of directing is the art of communicating in a functional way with a variety of creative people thus it's the art of COMPROMISING on a constant minute-to-minute basis while still ensuring that a major percentage of your idea still gets up on screen - unless you're one of the handful of directors who can tell everyone to go fuck themselves and just do as they're told) and considering there are 40 or so other contestants working away on their respective shorts, could we not have seen more of them too? Also that poor guy who blanked during his pitch - dude, you have my respect because that was a tough fucking situation to be in - 'American Idol' just makes me laugh my ass off with little empathy for the poor schlubs who think they're the next big thing - but my empathy for these guys on OTL - no matter how egocentric or overconfident they are - means that this show is just painful to watch - 1) because these guys dream's are being crushed so i can keep my hands off the remote for 5 seconds longer and 2) it's just fucking dull in its execution. It's too broadly aimed. It's targeting a specific demographic - Film geeks - so it needs to be aimed squarely at that demographic mainly because I don't believe the average guy in the street gives a fuck about 'logline' tasks or the difficulties of working together on a shoot. Still, I could be wrong but as for me, I think I'll Tivo the thing and keep watching if only because I'm glad it's not me on the show.
May 23, 2007, 6:16 p.m. CST
I don't get to watch myself on the show, but I do get to watch Chelsea Handler. The glass is half full!
May 23, 2007, 6:24 p.m. CST
by Mister Man
If she's gonna put herself in that position, it's fair game. I'm 46, ass.
May 23, 2007, 7:50 p.m. CST
by Calico Pete
And what position is that? Taped to the inside cover of the Desperate Housewives issue of TV Guide you keep by the toilet? You're 46... and, what? Does that mean anything dumbass?
May 23, 2007, 9:25 p.m. CST
Listen, I know this is a long story to take in, but I was a contestant for this show... and I can tell you FOX treated people like shit in their website. People got gagged left and right, accounts deactivated, words filtered, the works. A bunch of us got together and made our own film community, karmacritic.com Someone posted about it in Wikipedia. I tracked the IP of FOX's Vice President of Branded Media trying to delete all references to us from there. Even today, if you go to thelot.com and type "karmacritic" the word will turn into "BLEEP" and your post will be deleted and your account will be banned in minutes, try it. The whole thing is here, screenshots, links, etc. Screw On The Lot. http://www.karmacritic.com/?q=node/276
May 24, 2007, 8:10 a.m. CST
I dont know why a space got in it. Its http://www.karmacritic.com/?q=node/276 without the space between "=" and "node". I guess ainticool has a filter to prevent long sentences from widening the page. Cool.
May 24, 2007, 12:35 p.m. CST
by Mister Man
That's what. DH? Have never seen it, never will. I like Carrie Fisher - whatever.
May 25, 2007, 9:50 a.m. CST
by Mister Man
Mark Burnett needs to switch gears, if he can. The genre is seriously sputtering. And if we have to watch another reaction shot of contestants, retardedly grinning and nodding their heads, while listening to the screeching host, I'll start hitting random people with a two-by-four.
May 25, 2007, 9:56 a.m. CST
by Mister Man
if Burnett had populated the show with deserving candidates, as opposed to obnoxious assholes, that he THINKS we all want to watch, and hate. This "Lot" crowd is idiotic, for the most part, and the show further emphasizes the misunderstanding of the genersal public, in regards to what actual production is really like. A film crew has hundreds of distinct roles, and making movies ain't all about directing.
May 25, 2007, 11:55 a.m. CST
Well, that chick that made "Triumph of the Will" for Hitler was pretty good.
May 25, 2007, 12:35 p.m. CST
by Magical Jew Eyes
one of the filmmakers called out Ratner on being a generic hack right to his face.
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