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The Bryan Singer WW2 flick, VALKYRIE, gets a General!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I need to read this script. I've heard nothing but great things about it. Christopher McQuarrie WW2 flick about a team assembled to assassinate Hitler? I love a good man on a mission flick and I'm excited to see Bryan Singer get back to a more intimate character flick.
Already in the cast is Tom Cruise, playing one of the soldiers going after the dictator and they've just added a new actor to the project. Kenneth Branagh will play a German General who hatches the plan to assassinate Hitler and trains Cruise's character.
The picture starts filming next month in Berlin. Can't wait for this one!
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Boo Hoo
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Kenneth Branagh's okay, but for some reason all I can think of right now is Wild Wild West.
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Tom Cruise, hmmm...
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i hope this movie takes forever to shoot which will keep his ass off of the next superman movie.
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for sure must be excited too
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Surely they are responsible for the holocaust! (What those freak ass cultists believe)
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Like it or not, the character of Jason in 'Superman Returns' wasn't "pointless." It opens up a whole, messy, gross can of worms, but it's pretty essential to the story Singer was trying to tell.
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Mmhhh...does that mean hordes of American film "bloggers" will once again invade our lovely poor city? ....Cruise and his visits in the quite new Scientology centre will probably pollute -even the serious- papers for weeks...
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Singer is a great director, you ungrateful bitches.
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Sounds like it has potential.
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May 22, 2007 4:26:16 AM CDT
Wow, 13 posts in a Singer Talkback without gay bashing?
by derlanghaarige
Did you grow up?
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Don't know what happened.
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I have read this script.
You guys have no idea how cool it's gonna be.
But trust me.
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Superman had no angst. The 21st century loves angst (don't ask me why). So now Superman is a dad which is angst in and of itself. Plus, MOS is still on track.
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Normally people orgasm over Millers ideas, this one seems to have gone down like a lead balloon, I agree keep him child free, makes he seem gayer.
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Normally people orgasm over Millers ideas, this one seems to have gone down like a lead balloon, I agree keep him child free, makes he seem gayer.
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Tom Cruise, gay.
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Singer used to be a geek hero, now he must create in shame.
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It will be about a team of time travelers who go back in time to assassinate Xenu before he can blow up the thetans.
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I think I would have loved it! Would have saw it 3 times in the cinema, would have owned it DVD and BD, would have looked forward to a sequel...if it wasn't for that son thing...urgh, actually it still makes me SO angry just thinking about it! He fucked up all future superman movies in a plot twist! Well maybe the next director can start from scratch...
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sounds like an interesting concept and a different cast, I'll check it outas for Supes Return, the son thing just felt akward and out of place. The movie LOOKED like a superman movie but didn't FEEL like a Superman movie. In the heros talkback somoene said Smallville was like superman Days of our Lives, now I don't know aobut tht as I haven't watched Smallvile in a number of years, but I do know tht Supes Returns did feel that way. It didn't feel like a natural universe, like Donners did. I think if Singer hadn't tried so hard to continue Donner's legacy and made his own movie it wouldn't have been as bad...well that and had he left out the son, that was really soap operay
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May 22, 2007 6:37:15 AM CDT
At least thanks to Family Guy, we know why Tom runs...
by filmcritic3000
Run all you like Tom - Hubbard and beards can't hide your homosexuality.
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There was 60+ years of Superman mythology where he didn't have a son, but Singer had to change all that just to make it "his own". Well, Superman is an established character that belongs to everybody and he didn't need a pointless son. Damn, that movie was such a disaster, but it made a profit and sold toys and Happy Meals and that is all that matters to the suits at the end of the day.
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Also adding a child was originally Frank Millers turf so haters go scream at him.
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this summer!
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In Valkyrie, don't we already know that this assassination attempt won't be successful?
Or will it...?
Maybe the Titanic won't sink, either...
As for Superman--yeah, I agree that the Luthor plot was pretty lame--who the hell could live on a rock? I hope he stays on that island. But I actually was kind of jazzed about the kid. I mean, why not give our favorite hero a family? He's also more vulnerable now... -
Never said supes return movie was total crap movie. I don't think i'm a hater.
It's just... I wanted a new superman movie for soooo long. I even dragged a whole bunch of people who didn't wanna watch to the cinema. i agree there is lots to love in supes return. But the whole son thing stuffed it for me. It was probably the only problem i had with the movie. But I couldn't come back from it. Was hoping maybe Lex could have killed the kid and made supes super bad ass or something...but no, now instead of watching supes fight bad guys and/or save the world in the future, we have to father and son crap! Geeez, if i wanted something with father and son crap i'd watch finding nemo or maybe incredibles or some other disney flick. Shit i'd maybe have polar bears in the fortress of solitude over the son thing.
Anyway, it pisses me off too much thinking about...back to thread subject...
This WW2 movie should be arite though. If you can ignore his personal life, Cruise's movies are always good, he knows how to pickem! -
...but I agree that the "superboy" part was LAME! I also hope that the next one has more action. Supes needs a villain that he can go toe to toe with. IMO Luther is a boring Villain at this point in time. He's been overdone in the Superman movies.
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from assasinating Hitler?
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fat bears you're right, got caught up with son thing, and forgot how lex's rehashed scheme was dodgy too...sigh...so much to hate, maybe i am a hater after all LOL...
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is going on with the order for messages posted on this this thread?
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Branagh already played a Nazi general in "Conspiracy." Great flick
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Guess not..
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It takes some balls to take a story in a new direction and he did it and it works!!!!! All you nay sayers dont have to like SR theres plenty and I mean plenty who loved and await this flick and the new Superman flick because Singer can make a damn good movie!!!!!!
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Smashing knows that fact 100%. 8)
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also added to the cast : Andy Dick, Ellen, and Margaret Cho.
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Really? I mean, it wasn't a great addition but Supe's has dealt with a Superboy, and I liked Superman's daughter in "Dark Knight Strikes Back." I thought Superman Returns sucked because Luthor's scheme was even stupider than the one he had in Superman IV. Also, because Superman was being a creep, spying on Lois. Oh, and also because most of Superman's action was just him powerlifting. Having the kid in there opens up story line potential and advances things. Everything else in that movie was an inferior version of Donner's ideas. "Superman Lifts". Feh. BRING ON TEH BRAINIAC!
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I really didn't like "Superman Returns." I was hoping to, and I cut it as much slack as I could muster, but in the end it was just "Superman Lifts Things." Lex Luthor is one of the most boring villains ever, in my opinion, since he's not "super" himself. He can't fight. He just talks and schemes and looks evil and tries to lure Superman into kryptonite traps. Fucking boring! Bryan Singer should've realized this and gone with a villain Superman can actually fight.
That said, I'm glad Singer is moving away from Superman for a few films. "Valkyrie" sounds good and kickass and meaningful, though I'm not happy about Tom Cruise's inclusion in the film. That guy scares me now. The less I see of him, the better. So hopefully he'll get tortured to death in "Valkyrie," give up all the Allied secrets, and get posted on America's Wall of Shame. I'm dreaming, I know. But maybe "Valyrie" will surprise me. -
What a potentially great film here we have. Bryan Singer has had some WW2 refrences in a few of his films like APT PUPIL and Mangneto at Auwswhitz so it must be an important subject foe him, a bit like Spielberg. Then we have Mr Brannagh who is a great actor. I cannot wait for this.
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When the guys that are on the mission look tough. Think about the great guys on a mission films and seriously try to mentally recast them. War films will suck until we can get 12 hard bastards to rival the Dirty Dozen, or a group of craggy faced sons of bitches to rival Broadsword (Where Eagles Dare). These guys looked like they actually had fought in the war and in some cases had - even the comic book style ones had hard men as the guys! I mean really - Tiny Cruise??? I think the last person they would send to assassinate Hitler would be a deluded midget! It'd be Lee Fucking Marvin (or at a push Richard Fucking Burton). The last great Guys on a Mission Films were The Wild Geese and at a push Force Ten From Navarone
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It was just plain awful. I am not a hater - but am someone who has an opinion (which I believe we are all entitled to) and mine is: Superman just plain sucked. The fact is, Superman is just not a good hero. He was in 1950 but now, he just isn't viable. No-one believes that people don't recognise Supes as Kent. Glasses are a crap disguise. And don't get me started on the "I am Superman, faster than a ..., stronger than a...more powerful than - oh crap, Kryptonite, bugger, I'm fucked!" It is rubbish. Look back at the last 15 years of supes on the screen...Lois and Clark - supes was a side character. Lois and CLARK were the real stars. Smallville - Supes doesn't even appear. Its all about Clark and his love life. Superman sucks! Plain and simple! The movie sucked, plain and simple. And this Hitler movie...actually sounds very good. $100 bet, Hitler has a son...with a woman who is played by a terrible actress...cos Singer is bad at female casting...Bosworth as Lois? Please...Paquin as Rogue? Ugh!!!
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Cruise loves the older-mentor-trains-young-apprentice how to beat the world plots (COLOR OF MONEY, THE FIRM, COCKTAIL, LAST SAMURAI etc) - Cruise is so damn predictable, I bet you all the Hitler wannabee assasins in the team will PERISH and Cruise will be the ONLY SURVIVOR who gets to PONTIFICATE Germans on the evils of Nazism. Cruise is so fucking predictable.
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again...damn i cant forgive Singer for letting Kumar kick the crap out of Superman. Stupid. Superman returns again : the rise of Kumar
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even before he went crazy. He managed to show up in some good films, but they would have been better movies if he wasn't in them. The saving grace is that Bryan Singer is making this.
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I really liked Singers' Superman. It had heart and and let us see a lot more of Superman's soul. I thought the story was solid. Maybe Lex could've done something a bit more, but Spacey did well with what he had. Supe's kid, I thought, was a welcome addition and the one thing I was afraid of was put to rest. That was the introduction of his powers, which I was afraid was going to be laughable. No better way to introduce a super power than by emotional force to protect one's mother.
I understand about the copious amount of lifting Supes does in the movie, but he does use his other powers. He does use some of his vision powers (blocks falling glass). He also uses his super hearing, super speed, and leaping. -
Hehe.
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I used to really be a fan of Singer after X2, but he just showed his true colors and they are very bad...not the rainbow thing, but just the fact that he makes really bad choices.
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Why do we always see so many Korean war flicks but never any WWII films?
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I suggest you try rewatching Magnolia. Or Born on the Fourth of July. Or how about seeing almost any other megaactor actually take a nontopbilling role in an ensemble piece. (Are you listening Hanks? Ford? Denzel? Any of the other self-bloated 20- million-bucks-or-i-wont-look-at-it "actors"?)
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I will only go and see this film if Tom Cruise plays dual roles of Hitler and Colonel Tiny McSmiley the brave little yank who is sent to assassinate him and then take his place. And I would only see it if he plays it like he plays himself these days as a deluded midget with worrying ideas and a habit of going bananas when asked if he loves a girl. I want to see a scene where Heinrich Himmler (played by Ving Rhames) says - 'So, Adolf, I hear you met a girl?' and then Hitler starts whooping like an extremely heterosexual man, jumps onto a couch and punches the air in another extremely heterosexual manner while grinning like a loon. Katie Holmes can play Eva Braun and two substantial pieces of wood can give Hitler some extra height. Sorry - Cruise was always someone that I liked on film but I'm afraid that he's just gone too nuts! Or Mel Gibson can play Hitler! And it can be called 'One Flew Over the Eagles Nest'.
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If Cruise is in it, then I don't go. Period. Well, that, and Singer has lost my faith.
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I see all sorts of wrong with this set up.
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I'll go see this movie now. Hail, Xenu!
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Remember Singer is obsessed with 'The Wrath of Khan', the son is a set up for the next film where the film's villain (Brainiac? Preferably someone more psychopathic? Perhaps Luthor in collusion with someone really nasty?) finds the kid, kills him and send Superman nuts. Has to be. The kid will stand up for Superman or/and Lois in a stand-up, drag out brawl, Marsden's character will be skewered early on thus getting him out of the picture and clearing the field. The kid will then fight the major villain and then get murdered. Superman 3/6 will be a revenge thriller. The kid simply can't live, I'm telling you.
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I'm not really excited about this movie at all. Singer has serious ground to make up for me. His Superman was so boring and long and turgid. And Brandon Routh was obviously Singer's gay underwear model dream (and I'm not slamming Singer for being gay just for making a really bad movie). We all know how this Hitler movie ends, so who gives a shit. I know you could say the same thing about a lot of other historical flicks, but when it involves a mission like this that failed, whatever. Tom Cruise directly taking on Lord Xenu would be better.
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You'd think after Saving Private Ryan, Clint's 2 movies, the History Channel and Return to Castle Wolfenstein, you'd think we'd seen enough. With Singer directing, maybe we get to see some allies & german hot tub action.
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Well I thought it was funny.
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Branagh was fantastic as Heydrich in 'Conspiracy' - a BBC/HBO film about the Wansee Conference. One of the greatest pieces of television ever made. And I don't say that lightly.
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I wish you all the best for this film and think you have potential as a movie maker...and I love House. But don't ever make another Superman movie again. You really wrecked it for me. I was so mad with the son plot twist. I mean fuck you. Did you ever read a Superman comic. Do ever thought that in all the years they were writing and all the else world concepts they did not think of that! Of course they did and then they realised "Nah, thats a dumb idea cause it would just screw the storyline for ever" Fuck you. I hope to get rich soon and produce a superman movie where I get to kill that little piece of shit plot twist or pretend he was from a govt experiment or some shit. The only thing you got right was the casting of Routh, though the suit was gay and he should have been far more muscular, fuck look at Christian Bale! Bring on Doomsday and a balls to the wall superman action adventure where super is acts like a man not a pussy and gets to fight powerful adversaries, not fucking continents (shit how lame was that).
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Itching to see some super-villain showdowns with Supes... I really hope Singer hints at bringing in Darkseid!
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If the kid is a setup for Khan that would be pretty fun. Superman can more than a little boring when the only challenge he has is to punch someone, or lift something, etc. My favorite Superman stories are the ones where he's dealing with how or whether to use his super powers. I'd kill to have Brainiac show up with a Kryptonian origin and have him and a severly misguided/alienated but nobly intentioned Superman start to take over the world. Oops, Brainiac sees the kid as a threat to his hegemony, and kills him. Superman snaps too and gets to use all his super powers against an actual enemy. Brainaic from the "Red Son" storyline plus Superman's own "KHAAAAN" moment would the shit.
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That guy is a fucking head-case and I vowed to boycott every movie he makes from now on. But I love WW2 flicks. Hmmmm. Maybe I will bend my rule this one time.
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I can't think of an actor I hate more.
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Coming back and having a son would have been fine, but Singer threw in the "other man" - and a likeable chap at that. Problem is - Lois is a whore. My point. Supe leaves for 5 years comes back and has a four year old son. Lois must have waited for what - a month before shacking up with some guy? Either she really didn't know who the father was, or it was so close that Richard thinks the math adds up and it's his. And now she is lying to Richard. Supes, dude, you have to leave this chick. She is nothing but trouble. . . . Singer made Lois and unforgiveable character. He changed the whole dynamics of their relationship. Great, superboy is from a broken family. Let's make Luke Skywalker and alcoholic in the next Star Wars. Sheeesh!
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Tell me, what the fuck was so good about that mnovie huh? The action was boring, the plot sucked, and the twist was an insult to anyone who had worked on the Superman mythos before. It was a fucken dated concept (Donner's) that may have suited the 70's and 80's, but surprise surprise, was shit today. Also tell me, who is the more icon character, Superman or Spiderman? Of course its Superman so why the fuck is it no where near the Box office that spidey produced? And I ahte spiderman. A good superman movie would come close to spiderman boxoffice at least. This was shit. No two ways about. Seriously could someone defend the egotistical bitches movie? Tell me what the fuck I have missed.
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I seem to recall about a decade ago Germany having some political/legal battles with the Church of Scientology. I also seem to recall Tom Cruise suing a German tabloid. won't this history make filming in Berlin...interesting?
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Other than the plane scene there was no entertainment value to that movie whatsoever.
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You did hear about Germany refusing to recognize Scientology as a religion. The Germans were not too happy about the Scientologists opening up a center in Germany either, but I guess it was all worked out (my guess is with $$$$). Hail Lord Xenu! Master of the Cosmos, Protector of Hollywood wackos! Xenu...Xenu...
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Does anyone take him seriously anymore? I mean besides Scientologists.
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Maybe Singer should make a movie about Tom Cruise who thinks he's filming a WW2 flick but he's actually being hunted by the resurrected Hitler Youth. You may wonder who will resurrect the Hitler Youth?....Michael Bay obviously.
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1. Kate Bosworth: way too young for Lois. What was she, 15 years old when she had that kid ?
2. Superman Returns: Nice homage to an old franchise with a boring ending.
3. Cruise will probably screw this up on Singer. But...
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when he came back Lex Luthor was President of the United States, and really popular too. It would set Superman at odds with the majority of Americans and he would have to deal with opposing Luthor despite being unpopular - all things that would be NEW to the Superman movie franchise. Instead we got a bad karaoke gay underwear model cover version of the original with what looked like people who couldn't get a part on the O.C. Lame.
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Considering the references to Prometheus (Jor-El and Krypton on one side, Lex Luthor on the other) and Atlas, and the tension between (free) humans and the need for messianic heroes/saviours, I think it shows guts and foresight to play on the theme of father/son the way he did. And remember, it is the son who ultimately represents the best of both worlds: mortal humanity and 'divine' strength. The movie wasn't perfect, but at least it takes its subject matter - and origins - seriously. The beginning itself reminded me of the contraction/expansion (tzimtzum) of mystical judaism, which considering the names Kal-El, and the jewish background of the makers, perhaps isn't that much of a stretch. Either way, I hope Singer gets to make the second installment. I think Superman Returns was a good start, laying the groundwork for something much grander in scope and vision, but it was far from perfect.
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This is not a 'bash Singer' post. The man is certainly gifted. However, he completely annihilates comic book properties.If you think Jackman made a great Wolverine, then you don't know the source material at all.
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I love WWII historical fiction movies (although this is based on the actual assassination attempt right?). Kenneth Brannagh rules. Oh and speaking of the Hitler Youth, Pope Benedict was in it!
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The best movie of 2006. Period. Go Bryan Singer.
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The beauty of Supes is that he has all the power in the world and doesn't abuse it. (Ok Spying on Lois, a little uhm, creepy.) But besides. He doesn't have to punch people because he's friggin' Superman! He is motivated by integrity and love. I guess some people are above those old morals these days.
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not liking the supes movie is one thing but what's with all the gay comments/name calling on this talkback. so what if singer is gay? You poofter bashers are the real haters!
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Singer may just get "snowed under" with this and the other gay themed film in preproduction and just may not get around or be able to dedicate enough time to a Returns sequel. If there's a God that is. I may start praying.
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I guess a lot of it is genuinely people hating a film as it was made by a gay man, how shame full for them I feel, the rest just jump on the tittering bandwagon, he sleeps with men, his movies are therefore gay, god help us all if that's the general intelligence level the states is pumping out nowadays, no wonder the whole planet is gearing up to destroy you, keep it up and you will all be living in Mexico by centuries end.
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with Richard Burton and Clint Eastwood... in the sense that it has a pair of actors in it. The only movie I want to see with Nazi uniforms involves Jeri Ryan as a dominatrix...
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Your statement is a defense of the character of Superman, not of SUPERMAN RETURNS. I think even you know they fucked up, however much you may have liked it.
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You have got to be fucking kidding me. Tell me, so it was ballsy? WTF is he gonna do with it? Have ever read a superman comic? You dumbshit. There is fucking nothing they can do except kill the little shit and get supes all vengeful. AH fuck! this fuck head stuffed up the franchise. I like Routh but if they ever touch Supes again it needs to be completely rebooted. Fuck Singer. Best film of 2006? How the fuck did you come to that conclusion? What other film did you watch dukes of hazard? You dumb shit. I aint know homophobe I just know shit when I see it. Fucking boring, stupid plot and for any "fanboy" just repulsion. DOnt criticise fanboys cause they know the source material and its potential better than anyone. Like I said, look at the box office. Yes, i know that box office is an indicator for how good a movie is but in this case it shows how bad it is, it was a big fucking dissapointment. You talk about defending the moral character of Superman? He had a fuckin kid out of wedlock you dumb shit. Thats fucking moralistic for your ass. Dude you obviously don't know shit about Superman and you have some wierd as standards for judging films. Best film of 2006...LOL
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And have genetically-engineered Nazi super powers, and will save Hitler at the last minute by bashing Kenneth Brannagh with a piano. It's gonna be awesome!
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I guess the movie I get the most enjoyment out of makes me a "dumbshit". I suppose I was asking for trash talk when I said "eat me." I really loved almost every aspect of Superman Returns. I've been a comic reader for many years. I think I know more than "shit" about Superman. The point of my statement is that Singer's movie was a symbolic summary of what makes Supes great. He showed the integrity of the character and re-introduced him in a heartfelt manner. I think him having a child out of wedlock is besides the point with Superman's integrity. He is a moral creature in the movie. It was a damn good, intelligent movie. I guess everyone wanted more fists to the face and cyborg/alien action. I just don't get excited about that shit anymore myself. I like character developement. Eat me.
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Look sorry bout the swearing but there was a lot more that could have been done with that. I dont reaaly see how much "character developemnt there was. He stalks lois, he loves his sonhe fights the good fight, he has a knowledge of statistics on air vs traffic fatalities? Please. Ang Lee did a better Job with the Hulk in terms of character development (though he mioscued a bit). We will never see eye to eye on this but with the amount of money they invested in this, Yeshh what a let down And the campy humor of Luthor and his side kicks. I thought Luthor was suppose to be a formidable villian, not a half wit who can only regain his fortune by marrying a rich spinster. Singer basically secured his tenure with the franchise with that huge twist with super son. That greatly limits what can be done. I feel that when you translate comic to movie, the best movies have always been the ones who borrow greatly from their source material. That is why we love these characters in the first instance. Is this going to be superman and son for the rest of the franchises run? Like I ghave said before, Donner style is dated and I would have loved to have seen some DC story lines adapted. I really think this movie was not only a lost opportuntiy but ruined a franchise. And Im gonna end this civil- like and so we agree to disagree. But Warner Bros, condsider your investment and consider how much or little this made. It is my personal mission to see Singer never gets to touch this franchise again.
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I'm one of the few who really liked the Hulk, it's weird that you mention it. I see your point though. If different directions were taken it could've been a real kickstart for the franchise. Instead, I guess, we got sort of a stroll down memory lane.
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All right?
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