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Wahhhhh!! SWEEPS DAY 27!! The Last VERONICA MARS Ever!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
I am – Hercules!!
For those who missed Thursday’s news, “Veronica Mars” is cancelled; tonight brings its last two episodes. There’s talk that Veronica herself might pop up in a new CW project about the FBI academy, but I sense not a lot of us are holding our breaths..
Tonight’s installments are titled “Weevils Wobble But They Don’t Fall Down” and “The Bitch Is Back.” The CW says:
Weevil (Francis Capra) is arrested for selling fake debit cards to Hearst students, but claims he is being framed because of his criminal background, and asks Veronica (Kristen Bell) to clear his name. On Piz's (Chris Lowell) radio show, Keith (Enrico Colantoni) debates Vinnie (guest star Ken Marino, "Reno 911") about the upcoming election, while a tipsy Dick (Ryan Hansen) apologizes to Mac (Tina Majorino) for the way he has treated her in the past. Veronica and Piz make up after their argument about spending their summer apart, and a mysterious sex tape of the two finds its way to the internet. Jason Dohring, Percy Daggs and Julie Gonzalo also star. Jason Bloom directed the episode written by Phil Klemmer.
Furious that Logan (Jason Dohring) attacked Piz (Chris Lowell), Veronica (Kristen Bell) tells Logan she wants nothing to do with him. Parker (Julie Gonzalo) confronts Logan about still having feelings for Veronica, while Piz assures Veronica that he had nothing to do with the sex video. Veronica, with Weevil's (Francis Capra) help, investigates how the tape originated and discovers a person from her past is linked to The Castle and pays them a visit. With the re-election campaign nearing, Keith (Enrico Colantoni) steps in to protect Veronica. Percy Daggs, Ryan Hansen and Tina Majorino also star. Michael Fields directed the episode written by Rob Thomas and Diane Ruggiero.
Does Thomas build in a cliffhanger? Will corrupt Fitzpatrick stooge Vinnie Van Lowe replace Keith? Will Logan Echolls open up a south-of-the-border Burrito shop with Duncan Kane? Does Veronica break up with Stosh, citing cookie-dough-like qualities? Will Mac/Max find life beyond Thunderdome?
These final five episodes have, as promised, been going forward without an overarching mystery, and I can’t say I miss that mystery very much. All the recent installments have been rich with continuity, what with Veronica’s new careers and the romantic travails of the college kids and the big race for sheriff. (And it’s been big fun seeing Keith taking charge of Balboa County - again and for the first time.)
Seasons one and two both ended with Veronica facing deadly menace, first in the form of murderous movie star Aaron Echolls, then via abused homosexual rapist Cassidy “Beaver” Casablancas. Who, if anyone, will she contend with tonight? (Is “The Bitch is Back’s” title a clue? Could it be an altered, gun-waving Lianne Mars or Trina Echolls or Kendall Casablancas?)
Bandwidth. Predictions. Reactions.
8 p.m. Tuesday. The CW.


Neptune Noir:
Unauthorized Investigations Into Veronica Mars
By Rob Thomas

Coffee at Luke's:
An Unauthorized Gilmore Girls Gabfest



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On the last VM talkback ever. I want to weep.
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there fucking over veronica mars for what? all the new series they have coming out look like ass
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I still can't believe we have only one more night of V. Mars, ever. What am I supposed to watch now? Firefly? Oh, no, wait . . . bastards.
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denial anger bargaining depression acceptance
bless your cotton socks Veronica Mars. We had 3 good years. I'll miss all of you. -
Though they said the same thing about "Birds of Prey".
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The CW will officially be dead to me. Thank you Kristen, Enrico, Jason, Tina, Chris, Percy, Mike, Francis and Rob Thomas for three great years. It is our loss. Let the dancing shit which should have stayed on PBS beg-a-thons and American Brain-Dead Karaoke rot. One more reason reality TV should be the enemy of every last person who enjoys a good scripted show.
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Thomas has stated this himself. You're going to see her in serious ass kicking mode after the tape stuff. I really just hope this show ends with a satisfying conclusion, especially since it wasn't written as a last episode.
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You know, I guess that was obvious, but did we really need to build the finale around said sex as a plotline? Really? Cuz, they're already hardly believable as a couple. And yes, this is apparently my farewell to the CW too, not as protest, but for the simplest reason of all. They ain't got jackshit else I'd watch. Good riddance, and thank God for not having to see promos for Pussycat Dolls 2: Hunt for da' next Cunt.
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you suppose she'll end up crying in this one? I know i will.
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yes seasons one and two were better, but i still loved season three and i'm going to miss the show terribly. i'm sure i would have watched it, but i'm glad the fbi thing isn't going to happen. the show has changed enough since the beginning... i don't think i could handle another huge shift in the basic premise of the show.
can't wait for tonight to see the last episodes and then to click off the cw for good. it may not have an effect on the ratings, but i'll sleep better at night knowing i won't be supporting ostroff and the f'ing pussycat dolls. -
So long gang...thanks for the memories!
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there would be six more episodes once it returned. The Mofos at the CW can't even keep count of the number of shows on their own network.
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So far I've Seen:
Jericho (Was cool but canceled too huge a cliff hanger for my taste)
24 (Worst. Season. Ever, I might be out of 24 after this. I mean sooo boring, no closure, well the story was really wrapped up 6 hours ago anyway)
Heroes (Major COPOUT. Loved the Hiro Ending however, but the ep on the whole was meh)
Smallville (Haha when hasn't Smallville sucked.. Oh I forgot its been years. Season finale for SV are always the same, every character is in 'peril')
Medium (Another very satisfying finale, big cliffhanger, but an awesome finale none the less. Its my second place right now.)
The O.C (Very good series ender, tear worthy material. But its not in the same league among my other shows.)
Prison Break (Season 2 lost most of the steam I had for Season 1, the ending was so-so. IMHO they need to get the show back to its roots, all this accidentally meeting up with another con BS is irking.)
Supernatural ***MY FAVE*** (The only show this season to have successfully wrapped up a TWO season story arc in a fashion that I am 100% happy with. Dean making the deal with the demon, Sam wasting the black dude that killed him. Sam & Dean and their Dad after the yellow eye battle. It wrapped everything up nicely and set the stage for Season 3 with a new premise to the show.)
So unless the Lost finale is AMAZING. Supernatural wins this season.
RIP Veronica Mars, you are a shell of your Season 1 & Season 2 Glory days. DUNCAN FTW. -
rob thomas, joss whedon, and jj abrams should just start a whole new broadcast network of amazing quality. *sigh* a girl can dream, right?
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One of my favorite shows EVER. I am sad to see it go, but thankful for the quality TV they have provided me for 3 years.
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plz say Frak veronica!
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they moved away from the big story arcs. Before they used to have time (within the span of one episode) to move the big arc forward, solve a small one-shot mystery, AND still have time for some soap operatics and comedy. These new episodes are fairly shit, and so far pretty much are copying Hollywood schlock (the "Crash" episode, the "Blood Diamond" episode). Ponderous.
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Hell, let's just get those three in a room together and watch what happens!
I've been critical (and rightly so) of "Veronica" this season, but the show is just like that ol' "even when it's bad it's good" mantra about pizza and sex. I'm gonna miss it, lots. Best of luck to all involved, and thanks for three--weeeell, two and-a-half--of the best seasons on TV. -
So long Veronica..and damn you CW!!! Unless of course you bring in the FBI formula, then scratch the damnation.. I know, I know, holding my breath for fuck all really but what else to do!!! Season 3 restored some of its former glory but not really a patch on Season 1 or 2.. So long Veronica
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... of "Hot, Blonde, Cross-eyed, Crook-mouthed Chick"!... dammit!
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An adorable ferret face, but the comparison is inescapable.
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Sorry, this comment disturbed me. Unless I missed an episode somehow, Beaver is not gay.
He was raped by men. This does not make him gay.
All the victims that HE raped were women...and he was dating a woman.
Being rape by the opposite gender does NOT make one gay.
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see what I did with the last name? I'm so funny.
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They said the same thing about Angel - that it would be back in some form just so the fans didnt send in angry letters fighting for renewal. Plus, Cassidy wasnt a "homosexual rapist" What show were you watching. He was abused by his little league coach which screwed him up made him a murderer and raped Veronica, who is female last time i checked.
And Althought he last few episodes were less than perfect ill miss this show. -
see what I did with your handle? I'm like 12 times funnier.
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still I don't think he's the bitch- at least you won't catch me calling him that!
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My local cable company just now has added the local CW affilate to their HD lineup, so the first time I get to watch the Veronica Mars in HD is the series finale. Great timing, I get the CW in HD just in time to watch the final 2 hours of programing I'll ever watch on the network.
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I have about as much hope for whatever they're alluding to with another VM project as I do for the Angel tv movies they waved in front of our faces so people wouldn't hate on them too much. I'm happy we got three seasons, but come on- they're cancelling this and bringing back f@#$ing One Tree Hill and the Pussycat Dolls. Even if it doesn't bring ratings, VM is the only show (besides also-departing Gilmore Girls) that actually gets their network any critical or media attention. That's gotta be worth something....anything?...
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that Piz gets killed. Just randomly. Randomly killed. Because he killed this season for me.
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is this true? what...7 girls isnt enough so they're adding an 8th?
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...or does everybody here (besides the ones who are too young) want to eat Veronica's pussy.
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I thought this was supposed to be sweeps month and a week ramping up to a major holiday. Last night Heroes 24, tomorrow night L#st. But tonight, no House, no Boston legal. I have a friend who likes NCIS and SVU, so he gets new shows. And that new reality thing about wannabe film makers meeting in a parking lot, and Jesse Stone: Sex Change.
Isn't there anything good on tonight?
What? Veronica who? I thought they canceled that years ago. Didn't that network go out of business or something? Oh, they did cancel it? Well, alrighty then. So, nothing good on tonight, I can't call my pal who's going to be watching SVU... Maybe I'll scan that pile of unlabeled black tapes next to the TV, I think I have a Numb3rs I forgot to watch or a Ghost Whisperer I nodded off during or something... So, how'd that deal with mailing CBS a ton of nuts turn out? Geez, some people's kids. When a show gets canceled, it's over. Live with it and move on. -
Anyone else find it unusual that the CW seems to be sticking with the "Season Finale" tag, even though they had more than a week to work up a "Series Finale" treatment. Less time than Gilmore Girls got, if I recall.
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is it me or was Bell extremely hot with the shorts and hot on the beach? Damn beautiful.
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classic. i've been waiting for three years for them to incorporate a joke like this into the show.
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...and then lock the CW out of the sat box. Buh-bye.
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Word on her killer shorts. -
Logan, what the frack have you done??
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One final time.
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All Wallace needed was the Jack Sack, no?
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GodDAMN IT, this is just getting me all pissed off about the cancellation all over again. Fucking classic opening to the second hour, Veronica Mars at it's best. Seeing Veronica tear up that idiot ranks right up there with the best Columbo moments, they're pulling Wallace into the storyline FNALLY, and Dick being Dick...GODDAMN YOU CW!! )$U*T@#@#*)*#$
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Now on the side of good?
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Since only her and Wallace talked about the camera pen??
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LMFAO :D :D
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That was Lilly Kane's painting, right?
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does the kane family have ties to the castle?
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Whoa...
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Keith; rock, meet hard place.
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how can there only be 20 minutes left of the best show ever? best eps of the season, imho.
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You just may have cost yourself the election...
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Nice touch...
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I'm getting a 'the horn of Hell Hammerhand shall sound in the Deep - one last time' moment.
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How it feel, beeyotch?
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i can't believe it's over.
thank you to rob thomas, kristen bell and all of the amazing cast and crew that made three of the best years of television. ever. -
oh well, it's all yours Pussycat Whores
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Is not even going to be NOMINATED for an Emmy this year. Kristen Bell, you did not leave anything in the proverbial locker room. Rob Thomas, neither did you. THANK YOU FOR 3 GREAT YEARS.
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Really, it ended as appropriately as it could have. Great, even if somewhat predictable moment for Logan, Keith did the only thing he could do, and Veronica wins and loses, as usual. Nice to have CW and Jake back for the finale, the latter still being no match for our girl and Piz, while being around, thankfully taking a backseat in the action. A HUGE thanks to all involved for the three years we got...
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Damn spellchecker :|
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(insert middle finger here) BYE BYE CW!
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I like the petite blonde vixen plenty, but really...Connie is the deserved lead philly.
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It's over. IT'S OVER. Damn, that makes me sad...but anytime I want to here that sassy VM, I can pop in a DVD. And weep. I would totally watch a VM:FBI. A girl can dream.
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ok sure it wasnt a TRUE BLUE cliffhanger but things are left unresolved...i didnt get any sense of an ending....that isnt their fault since they werent given the chance/time to have one but yeah....still a good show though, i was thinking maybe kane jr. woulda showed up...guess not
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Bell>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Britton.
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WOW Those two episodes reminded me of what Veronica Mars used to be like, they were purely golden. There is no way they can end with things so unresolved like this. Why COULDN'T THE WRAP UP THE STORY?! Argh so un-nerving. Halfway through the second episode I forgot all about the sex tape while Veronica was sneaking around Kane mansion. Veronica Mars... You will be missed :(
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This, from poster '742':
The hardest thing about the show ending is that the last episode ended things on a low note. Not a cliffhanger, not a resolution, just low: Keith compromised himself to save Veronica and will probably be disgraced, once again, from the sheriff's department. Veronica got revenge against the guys who distributed her naughty video ... sort of. Logan beats up a kid who's mobbed up and probably doesn't care that he might suffer a fate worse than Big Pussy. Piz is the walking wounded. Things aren't looking up for our heroine, or her family, or her friends. It's a bummer.
What's worse, there's a whole lot of students at Hearst who Veronica will never have the chance to electrocute. -
I couldn't confirm this story, but...
HOLLYWOOD - In a shocking move that has fans and critics alike cheering, the News Corp television network MyNetworkTV has snatched Veronica Mars from the jaws of cancellation.
The network announced late Tuesday that it has sealed a one-year, $24 million deal with Veronica producer Warner Brothers, leaving the CW, the series' home since its transition to the CW network when UPN and the WB merged.
MyNetworkTV will fork over about $1.1 million per episode for the first season with the option for a second, the Hollywood Reporter said.
The deal also includes a provision that would allow MyNetworkTV to have first pick up on any new Rob Thomas television projects for the next two years.
"We are incredibly pleased to have Veronica Mars on MyNetworkTV," Roger Ailes, the network's president, said in a statement. "Not just because it is one of the best shows on the air and represents a new era in MyNetworkTV's life and direction, but more importantly because Rob Thomas is one of the finest writers and producers in television."
During the past season, the show has averaged 2.48 million viewers in its 9 p.m. Tuesday timeslot, but has a passionate fan base which has donated upwards of 300 DVDs of the series to public libraries across the country.
The 64th and final CW episode of Veronica Mars will air May 22.
Now, I couldn't find a source for this story, and I had just copied the post when it seems someone at the CW removed it from their forum. It would be very cool to find out this is true, but the one problem I have is looking up stories on Roger Ailes, quoted as the network president in this news story, I find he may actually be the Fox News president. Hopefully this isn't a sick joke.
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I got to admit I was a little disappointed in the ending. But I am guessing Thomas wrote it as a season finale. Thanks for 3 great season. Season 1 may be one of the best murder mysteries I have ever seen and one of the best seasons ever. I will miss the father-daughter back and forth between Veronica and Keith. They had one of the most fully realized parental relationships on tv. The whole cast was awesome. I hope Kristen Bell will find material that is as good as her abilities and here's hoping now people will look at Enrico Colantoni in a different light. Well, i have nothing to watch on Tues. nights now. Farewell Veronica.
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I'm going to miss that fucking girl. This sucks, I've never had a show I'm so attached to snatched away from me before. Sure there have been unwanting cancellations of shows I've loved, but none like this sharp, witty, smart, funny mystery show. I'm going to miss you Veronica. I was even warming up to Piz. Dammit.
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WTF I can't stand this, why would someone make that up.....? What kind of horrible world do we live in?!
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This would have been a great season finale. I hesitate to call such good episodes unsatisfying, and I'm happy that the series goes off with a bang (and probably the season's best episodes yet) but more resolutions would have been nice.
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I looked up the Hollywood Reporter's TV News for May 22 and found nothing on MyNetwork or VMars and I'm sure someone would have mentioned something about it before if there was any truth to the rumor.
It's probably a sick joke. -
I looked up the Hollywood Reporter's TV News for May 22 and found nothing on MyNetwork or VMars and I'm sure someone would have mentioned something about it before if there was any truth to the rumor.
It's probably a sick joke. -
Thanks again to all involved for creating one of the best and smartest shows on television.
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What a golden show. One Tree Hill gets renewed but not Veronica Mars? Fuck you CW. May you rot in the shallow, melodramatic teenage hell you've created for yourself.
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See the ending works. Veronica gave up her "ideal" life as a popular high school student to support her father in the Lily Kane case. Now years later, Keith gives up his ideal life of sheriff to allow Veronica to have her life and go off to the Academy. It's sad but has symmetry. God, I'll miss this show.
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We got to see the Kanes (and CW) again. Logan put a thorough beatdown on A.J. Soprano. Keith had to choose between his career and his daughter and made the right decision. The world is shown again to be a thoroughly fucked up place. A great three seasons that entertained while telling the truth. What more do we need from a TV show?
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Just because he raped girls doesn't mean he's straight. Dick called Mac a beard early in the season. I think it's supposed to be ambiguous, as one of the motivations he had for raping a drugged out veronica was trying to prove he's straight. Or maybe he was really straight but was worried he wasn't because he was molested.
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this being the last show, thanx
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would have been nice
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I mean i don't mind a few unanswered questions. Leave the ending a little open, fine, but give me something. I know that this was probally written as a season finale, not a series finale but a couple tied up loose ends would have gone a long way.
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Very sad to see it go and wish there was a little more closure but I great three great years and a pretty darn good finale. I too loved the Rob Thomas is a whore joke. If you Veronica could get a miniseries for resolution like good old Farscape.
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Very sad to see the last of this series, but you had to see the writing on the wall. The CW never REALLY committed to this season and after Pussycat Dolls did better in the ratings you just knew it wasn't going to come back. Nets are always going to be driven by ratings and if the great unwashed want to watch boobies and erection jokes then that is what the Nets are going to program. Sad, but that is why we embrace the good stuff when it struggles onto our screens (big and small).
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I got three great years and If only Veronica could get a miniseries. I'm pretty tired so forgive my spelling errors.
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So long, Veronica Mars, a show too great
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... who wrote a brilliant show that went out with more style than the CW deserved. The finale balanced mystery, drama and humor as deftly as ever.
The hacks who write the humorless, melodramatic, plot-drunk, ham-fest "Heroes" should:
1)be ashamed to be so popular
2)take notes ... take lots of notes
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or just steal rob's writing staff....
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Still no confirmation on that story I posted. I get the feeling it was a bad joke on hopeful fans. I don't believe the Hollywood at the beginning is meant to be Hollywood Reporter, just to denote the originating city of the story. The only update I have is I can correct myself and say that Roger Ailes is the Fox Networks head since 1996(thank you Wikipedia). I'm sure if I had a job in TV(or paid any attention to the inner workings at Fox) I'd have known that. Let's hope that something more comes out about this today.
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Sure, there were still questions to be answered, but seeing Lily, the Kanes, and Clarence again sort of closed the circle. And the final shot of her walking away in the (fake looking) rain (but rain nonetheless)...has it ever rained in Neptune on the show?
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Thought I would share this with ya'll..kristen bell will be in chicago for wizard world...in Chicago...I believe its in june..like the second weekend of june...go to wizard worlds home page..and click on wizard world chicago...she was there last year too....Great (hopefully not) final episode..hope not the final..cause as was mentioned on the show.."YOU DONT BELIEVE IN THE NO WIN SCENERIO "...peace people
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Sometimes finishing a story in an open-ended way is the best way to go. But this just ended mid-story and I'm not too pleased about it. The finale was excellent, but without the rest of the story it's also frustrating. Hopefully Rob Thomas will find a way to tell the rest of the story.
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The series began with Keith losing his sheriff job and Jake Kane covering up for his kid. It ended with Keith losing his sheriff job and now Keith covering up for his kid (while Jake Kane was involved). Now all we needed was some Veronica/Parker/Meg Manning three way scissors.
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....I'll miss you.....
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honestly these last two eps were superb. Damm you CW, DAMM you to hell!
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ok yes the 24 season finale was as weak as the previous 20 episodes and the heroes writing team dropped the ball in a way i wouldnt have imagined
possible but supernatural was dreadful for so many reasons
1. The main purpose of the yellow eyed demons plan was to get a non demon to cross the rail track and put the gun in the lock. Why did he not get someone to do it by threaten to kill there family unless they did it at any time in the last 20 years. Ok he wanted a general of some kind but those kids and there powers sucked
and couldnt even defeat one demon how are they gonna command the respect and lead an army of demons.
2. How dramatic a twist is it to kill off a main character if another character can make a deal and bring him back from the dead giving the writers a year to get dean of the hook. They did it already in exactly the same time over the last episode of the 1st season and the first of the second.
3. Yellow eyed demon used telekinesis to rob dean of the gun once but not the second time.
4. Too elderly humans were able to close the gates of hell by pushing it shut physically
5. None of them noticed the blonde lesbian heart stopper just leave them and walk off
6.you set up a battle to the death of 5 kids with special powers who cant even use them on each other.
7. none of the demons escaping hell did anything or were barely seen.
theres so many more reasons it was poor writing...loved the first series but the second has been awful
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The 8PM episode did even worse; 1.5/2. While the POS dancing toxicity and the Death Star got identical 16+ ratings and 25 share each. Now fuck off, you dancing fools, and go back to PBS beg-a-thons with Juliet Prowse doing color commentary, where you truly belong.
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Anyone who thinks those were good need to pull their head out of their ass. Wow Weevil framed for a crime he didn't commit...what an original episode premise. A remake of the skulls but without the talent of Joshua Jackson. Those were the most god awful stories since the Dean's arc. I'm glad it's going away.
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...AND DAMN YOU TO HELL, CW!
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And although the plots themselves weren't that original, the writing, dialogue, and character interactions were perfect. it's a true shame to see things unresolved, but that's the world we live in unfortunately. The sheer premise (if they hadn't gone the FBI route) of beginning on Marino as a series regular, and having a town run by Vinnie Van Lowe as sheriff would have been fantastic. A week ago I would have said that Thomas would at least tell the fans what he was planning to happen with these characters, as he seems to genuinely care about us. But after hearing his response to Ostroff's bullshitting, he seems to have becomed pretty disillusioned and bitter with the property, which is terrible. I wish we just got a full season of Logan and Veronica as a couple, acting the way they were in the last few episodes of season one. The chemistry there is just so fucking good. Hopefully Lost's finale tonight delivers, because i thought Heroes was mediocre, and 24's was underwhelming (besides the ending where Jack yelled at Audrey's dad).
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This is Ausillo's interview with VM.s Rob Thomas, wishing what he would do about a finale:
http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/700000049
Exclusive: Veronica Mars Creator Mulls Feature Film!
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Veronica Mars by Michael Ansell/The CW
If there's one thing we can all agree on about last night's Veronica Mars "season" finale, it's this: There's no way in hell that was the end of the story.
So, naturally, the first thing I did this AM was e-mail Mars creator Rob Thomas and ask: "Will will ever find out how you would've ended the show?"
His piddle-worthy response?
"I'm not entirely sure how/when VM would've ended, but I wouldn't discount my taking a stab at a feature script."
Yeah, you read that right. Veronica Mars on the frakkin' big screen!
Rob then added, "But I'm not sure if I could sell a movie based on a little-watched TV series."
Um, I've got one word for you, and it begins with "F" and ends with "Y." I'm talking about Firefly! If a show with barely one season under its belt can get the multiplex treatment — and turn a (small) profit — one can only imagine what VM would be capable of!
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May 24, 2007 12:36:47 AM CDT
Veronica Mars Bogus Pick-up On ............ MyNetworkTV
by red dawn don
Poster wungolioth wrote "... MyNetworkTV ... $24 million dollar deal ... " I suspected a fraud when I read those words. I doubt that MyNetworkTV has $24 dollars much less $24 million dollars. Thanks for posting and for your further fact-checking. Now let us kill the prankers/haters who do such phooney things.
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...it still wouldn't be good. It felt like a decent midseason (or earlier) ep that need a part two, but not big enough to be a summer cliffhanger. This has been a horrible year for finales, only Dexter and Rome had decent ones. Still, I'll miss Veronica and I look forward to rewatching season 1, one of the best seasons of any show on TV.
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