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3 Minutes & 29 Seconds... This is it! AICN scored the motherfucking premiere footage of JOHN RAMBO! This ain't PG13, NO-WAY!
Hey folks. Harry here. As I fished my long turned off phone out of my computer bag in Chicago, I joked about what important messages may be awaiting me. In very short order - I had a message from Sly Stallone. That's right, our buddy was back from Thailand and, "The toughest, most grueling shoot of my entire life!" There were bugs and all manners of scary things coming out of the dark on the shoot - and while Stallone was in Thailand, JOHN RAMBO was in BURMA - and Stallone isn't fucking around.
The footage we have for you is something that Sly put together to show distributors and folks at Cannes... but, he wanted to see what you Talkbackers thought about what he had for us. So - for 2 days, this footage will be hosted here on AICN. And then, I'm taking it down. But I watched this with a group of about 15 friends tonight and when... you'll see... happens, and then, it keeps happening - we were screaming and applauding and being so happy to see RAMBO doing the shit Rambo was created for. THIS ISN'T WATERED DOWN, THIS IS TURNED UP.
That said - you should know that this footage isn't done - and Stallone still intends to add more blood and "ARROWS" to this stuff. Sly is also watching this talkback to see what you guys think, so be honest and straight with the man. And AB... It's fucking Christmas... Ho Ho Ho!!! Thanks goes out to Stallone for giving us this, to Tom Joad for some Encoding help and to the greatest audience of all, you guys! It's about to get BLOODY!
When Pushed, Killing's As Easy As Breathing! - See What John Rambo Means!
P.S. Please do not emulate anything you see in the above 3+ minute promotional piece, John Rambo is a trained professional... attempting anything you see here could result in actual fatalities, jail time and a close encounter with a prostate massaging summer sausage. So celebrate the film, don't reenact!
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I wasn't excited about this...but things change!!
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First thing anymore? Its so twatty and you just get the sit ripped out of you anyway?
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... yeah. When he does... it... and then he does... that other thing... it feels like it's the 80s again in all the right ways.
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Well this is a film I wasn't bothered about at all, but after seeing that then count me in!
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Is shoot in almost documental flair, with a very dirt cinematography is cool
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I'm 10mb in, do I cancel the download due to lack of quality?
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I wonder whether, with everything they're seeing on the nightly news, people will really want to watch a savage war flick for entertainment right now. A horror movie with blood spewing everywhere? Sure, why not. That's all in fun. But combat violence? I don't know.
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May 19, 2007 5:28:30 AM CDT
Is he selling this to a bunch of fucking idiots!?
by editingmakesthemovie
We're really back to the 80's. The A Team with guns.
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a lot of the blood n guts (literally!) will be trimmed back on release. I was very dubious about this flick and now I'm a little more interested. Hope Sly pulls it off. First Blood was the first video I ever hired as a kid and I still love it to this day. Fingers crossed.....
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That's one of the goriest things I've ever seen. My favorite is when he takes out the guy in the front seat of the military vehicle and the guy cameos for the next couple shots as splatter on the gun. No matter what, bonus points for going that extra mile. It's sad that it's been so long since we've seen real gore in an action film that it comes as a shock to see it here, but I guess Sly can use that shock value for all its worth in this one.
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What this is is The A Team with blood, and spilled viscera, and no Mr. T.
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Ok. one of my favorite characters is back. BUT, the footage looks like a Grindhouse trailer. Kinda like Hobo With a Shotgun.
People exploding in a rain of blood? C'mon. Despite what people think, Rambo was not about killing for the sake of it and Kayro syrup flying through the air. It was a man pushed too far.Think about it. you never saw David Caruso's head explode. Or even the Russian in in part II.
I'm diggin the premise and LOVED Balboa. Mr. Stallone please put as much heart into this as the latter. Based on this trailer though, it seems more like Missing in Action 6.Hope this gets read. -
can jerk off to this for a while...I'm more of an Ocean's 13 guy, myself...
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You just reminded me of something...has anyone read Beached, by Ted Griffin of Ocean's 11 (you know, the good one)? Good concept, maybe someone in the know can review it or *cough* post it somewhere. Alas, off topic. 30mb in to this clip. May as well let it go now.
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I like the violence, however this has to be NC-17...Stallone, looks like you know what the fans want...Question is the new MPAA ( post Valenti ) going to let you release this as an R?
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And bring back Dennehy!
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...it's a Splatter-Movie!
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About friggin' time! I'm tired of these pussy action flicks with a million bullets and no blood. This looks like a grindhouse flick because it SHOULD be a grindhouse flick. The first one was, at any rate.
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... not at all.
Look, the original FIRST BLOOD has little or nothing to do with the other films in the series. By the time they made that first sequel, Rambo had already evolved into a superhero. This looks bloody as hell and it's actually pretty nice-looking. If Sly delivers a film that lives up to the "Holy shit!" quotient of this promo trailer, then I'm in. I had no expectations for this, but I really enjoyed it as a piece of wild gory '80s throwback action. -
It does have the feel of a "Made For Video" trailer though.
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Once again Stallone delivers, I dont know too many guys in the UK that wouldn't pay to see this. Great popcorn entertainment. First time I have seen a trailer and it has got my jaw to drop violence wise. GO SLY wish you were 20 years younger so we had another 20 years to enjoy your work.
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Wow - that's brilliant. I agree with other TBers that it looks like a real grimy 80s exploitation throwback, which is a good thing in my book. If the final cut can keep that level of gore and brutality then it could be great.
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Mori makes a good point about the first one being an entirely different entity. I used the same theory watching T3 last night, treating it as a 'what if' scenario based on Cameron's conclusion. Made it a lot more enjoyable.
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Yup, a .50 at close range will really fuck up your day. You go John-boy!
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and that's saying something.
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Just WOW!
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I am approve. Them growth hormones is da shizzle! Bring on another aged 80's killing machine.
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I vote they use your comment as the poster tagline.
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I like, I like. Sly is the man.
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A good, hardcore action film is just what we need. Beware that the carnage doesn't become tiresome.
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Keep the blood and guts...cut the christian rubbish.
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It's true!
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Sly,
Have a great part for you in new UK British Independent film.
Pitch of the film is a UK "Jerry McGuire" meets "Boiler Room". You would play a US entreprenuer based in London helping inspire a bunch of guys set up there own business.
Please contact me if your interested: Louis_the_lionheart@yahoo.co.uk -
I thought I was looking forward to this movie before, but I can't WAIT now! That trailer was one of the most awesome I've ever seen, and pretty much extinguished any doubts I had about this project. This ain't gonna be no half-assed PG-13 effort, but an all-out ACTION MOVIE for the first time in years!
BIG THANKS to Sly for sharing this footage with us! One thing, though: I really hope Jerry Goldsmith's theme music is used in the final movie as well. Wouldn't feel like "Rambo" without it. -
great stuff! brings a modern style to the 80's action table w'out wussing out. i mean that you didn't take the all-too-easy option of overdoing the 80's camp, but you didn't end up squinting up your own post-modern butt.me and all my Rocky/First Blood/Die Hard/Predator lovin' buddies are right there with you! you got our ten bucks.
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When all others tone down their sequels in order to get their precious PG-13 rating, Sly says FUCK OFF and turns the gore factor all the way up. But these are a collection of some of the goriest moments in the movie (I suspect) boiled down to a few seconds, so of course it will strike harder. I can't wait for this thing.
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May 19, 2007 6:24:27 AM CDT
Fuck me!!!! Absolutely Badass! i liiiiiiiiiiiike it!
by dr. frankenstein
love it! Now this is how to make a Rambo movie! in the other talk back Bruce nearly had me convinced that a PG-13 action movie was going to cut it but after watching this with, the best will in the world, he's talking shit. If Die Hard ain't going to deliver the goods it OK because Rambo's going to up the anty. Sly if you're watching this I'm booking my tickets now and sending that clip to all my friends who are gonna love it. All you othedr talk backers out there who've been pissisng and moaning at a DieHard movie y'know, for the kids, better get your asses in line to support this movie and Sly because if this fails and LVoDH makes a ton of money then welcome to the future kids.
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Now that's more like it! Bring it on! Quentin Trarantino is smiling! Now if they could only make James Bond like this......
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Now that's more like it! Bring it on! Quentin Tarantino is smiling! Now if they could only make James Bond like this......
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I didn't really care until I saw this. But this actually looks badass. I actually want to see it now. And this ain't gonna be some PG-13 crap by the looks of it. Gotta respect that nowadays.
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do you guys have to use it all the time, can't you put a mpeg version for the rest of us plebs?
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But I don't care :). Way to go, Sly!
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He should watch this!
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Rambo poundering over the scripture reading and then cutting to him creeping up behind that soldier is very exciting and my favorite part. Well done.
I hope those scared words, through voiceover or whatever, haunt Rambo...in a good way. It's a nice contrast in the midst of all that hell. I remember reading LEFT TO TELL and how the brutality allowed the most profound awekening in the author. I'm not saying Rambo has to see god or anything but meeting and helping this christian workers is proably the best thing that could have happened to the evolution of John Rambo especially as he trys to make sense of a life time of blood n guts during his twighlight years.
I hope there is a deep thread throughout all that intense brutatlity. It would take things to a whole new level.Possibilities are endless. Hope the ediing goes well, Sly !
I love how you cut the killing of the rapist. Edgy. Brings to mind Scorses's Cape Fear for some reason.
Your loyal fans are behind you. Go for it !
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And that kick ass 80's mullet you are rocking is the shiz-nite! Keep the gore in and go for the nc-17 rating. it will bring all your hard core fans out to a great showing at the box office.
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I like it. These days it is refreshing to see the bad guys get there asses kicked... no moral dilemma's.. just good old fashioned eye for an eye... I would like to see Mr. Stallone put this kind of passion into a movie not his own... I would like to see another Copland... something unexpected.
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first: english is not my first language.
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awesome!
i hope there will be an unrated dvd.
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Hey, what's with that link. Just getting white screen. Someone please put up another link...I MUST SEE THIS FOOTAGE!!
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that was unexpected...AND SO FUCKING AWESOME
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it degenerates into some cheezy DTV synth drum vamp and kills that 'Big Picture' vibe. Not too keen on the look, First Blood is beautifully shot, I was hoping it would have an edgier moodier look. Pretty hardcore violence, just as long as it's 'necessary to the plot' I don't have any issues with it, War is visceral and brutal, and it's in line with the progression from 80's action to contemporary fare. I just hope it's more akin to the first film in tone and not some jar-headed neanderthal action flick.
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I Up'ed it for you guys who are having trouble downloading it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ColXeVm-gxY
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I loved the first Rambo flick, it was so gritty and felt very real. The sequel's didnt really work for me and I wasnt sure how John Rambo would work out...from the looks of it, pretty fuckin' great! What a trailer, that's how you sell your movie kids. It has character, plotting and kick-ass action. I really love what Sly is doing at the minute, Rocky Balboa was such a great film, again feeling very personal and respectful to the characters. I'm positive this film will be in the same vain. Dont get me wrong I dug the trailer for Die Hard 4.0 but it looks really expensive and maybe alittle over the top (hey its Hollywoood right) but this trailer just feels so much more basic (not cheap! definatly not cheap) it's hard to describe....I guess it just looks fuckin cool. iIt feels like Rambo in Grindhouse style, the editing, the music, the way it has been shot and the text at the end just rocked. Not enough good things to say really. Good Job Sly and I'm definatly up for this!!!
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John is one cold dude! Dammit this is harsh! Over a long long time some REAL action. Blood and guts. Torture and explosion. Rambo is justifier!
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...but good considering the subject matter. Burma ranks right up there with Darfur as worst war zone on Earth right now. The trailer felt like a cool throwback to '80's action films, too. Brought back some good memories of theatergoing back then. I also appreciate the Christians here are not scene as Ned Flanders type parodies, but real people with convictions. Bravo.
I cannot wait to see more.
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9/11 pretty much killed violence in American movies, nice to see it making its way back.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ColXeVm-gxY
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Hardcore violence. I like that.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ D2e24qBILM
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I think its looks like complete gold.
This looks like the best 80s movie that was never made. You dont get great lines like " when your pushed enough killings as easy as breathing" anymore and its a shame. You allso dont get trully amazing savage violence in action movies anymore, i mean heads off with knifes. It just looks like pure fun.
3 of my friends have watched it now and they all think its looks like a amazing ballzy movie from their childhood.
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That was pretty good. I thought there were a few lines that didn't work and the splash that was made from the guy taking the arrow to the chest didn't feel right, but over all a good early peek. Shows the two sides of Rambo that hopefully will be evident in the movie.
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I will be there opening night, Stallone.
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Rip off the head of every enemy?"
I agree, but should you be saying in the name of Allah? Pattani, Thailand - Islamic insurgents on Monday shot dead a Thai-Buddhist couple working as fruit pickers in the majority-Muslim area of Bannang Sata, Yala provine and injured their three-year-old daughter, police said.
After gunning down Praphan Ponlarak, 36, and his wife Chaddakan, the assailants decapitated Praphan, making him the 29th victim to be beheaded in Thailand's troubled deep South since the region's separatist insurgency took a turn for the worse in January 2004. Their daughter was admitted to Bannang Sata hospital, 780 kilometres south of Bangkok, for treatment -
Think about it. The target audience is young males age 25+ how remembers their first Rambo experiences. An NC17 rating would generate so much fucking buzz and everyone in the target audience would have to see what the fuck this thing is about.
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drug offence in thailand = death
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You just keep going with that Sly, don't water it down for ANYBODY, I wanna see a action movie that shows the pain and the blood and the downright messiness of killing. Harry says you're reading the talkback, Sly so like I say : Keep going with this style and level of violence and rawness.
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...a good supply of body bags!"
Loving what I'm seeing Sly, keep it up. I'm so sick to the hind teeth of "pretty-pouty-boy" action heroes. Hell, we 80's kids ARE being spoiled! What with Transformers looking good, Die Hard 4.0 and now this. Film snobs can sniff all they want, this is the shit I grew up on and still love going to see. I've always found that each J.J.Rambo flick has mixed it up regarding gritty/high end action with a smattering of social commentary. Again, the film snobs can scoff all they like. All I ask is that Sly uses some of the much-loved motifs and themes by the sorely missed maestro Mr. Jerry Goldsmith. That would really be the icing on the cake. I just wish Richard Crenna were around for the ride too. Stick with it Sly, the critics don't know shit. Rocky Balboa proved once again that your good self and fans are right.
Can't wait!
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What a kick-ass trailer. Sure, toning movies down may bring in a few extra dollars, but let's also face fact. Stallone isn't an actor that draws the young audience for good looks, or being a 'metrosexual' hero. No, this is going to be for the older die-hard fans such as myself. Fans that have stuck through the good and bad times, but fans who, as was the case with Rocky, will pay to see a no holds barred action movie. It's brutal - I love it - keep it up.
Finally - Sly, please don't ignore Australia. I hear that you banned Australian press recently from your Rocky DVD launch due to the drugs case. Remember you have a legion of fans here - and Australian fans can be pretty damn vocal on a world stage. We would love to see you back here one day! -
...or some other human format? Damn quickslime was updated again... time to check Astalavista :\
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May 19, 2007 7:51:27 AM CDT
HOLY SHIT THATS MOST AWESOME THING IVE SEEN IN YEARS!
by judge dredds dirty undies
Seriously I'm blown away. I was excited for the new Rambo but even I wasn't expecting this. I seriously cant fucking wait for this movie!
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Hearing Jerry's score again was joyous!
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Holy 'fuck me with a screwdriver' shit!!!!!! AWESOME!!!!!!Stallone is back to real Rambo territory. Probably the offical sequel to FIRST BLOOD.
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....WHAT?....STALLONE DIRECTED THIS?!....NO FUCKING WAY. I WANT THIS MOVIE UNCUT. STALLONE DO NOT SELL OUT TO THE STUDIOS AND EDIT THIS DOWN. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Though I absolutely love most of what I see in these clips I have a few concerns. (1) The color schemes in some of the forrest sequences look a little too bland, like they were shot in my back yard. I hope this is due to the fact you haven't colortimed the movie yet. Burma needs some warm tones. (2) the music at the end was horrible. I know that it's most likely some temp track found on myspace but it still concerns me that whoever edited this thing chose to use such horrible music. Please let the soundtrack be heavily Goldsmith inspired. I love those classic sad tunes and would hate to see them missing from the final film. Other than this, I CANNOT WAIT!!!!
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I've been seeking another "Commando", "first blood". Since the mid 90s...where did those kind of movies go....apparently Mr. Stallone, knew exactly where.
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What's it feel like to have DH4 pissed on by JOHN RAMBO?
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...RAMBO 4 is going to be the greatest Christian film ever made.
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After years of PG13 crapfests this one finally gives us back the brutal action fights we've been dying to see again. And as a desert Sly tops it of with Verhoeven kills in overdrive. Ty Sly, I hope the whole film is this awesome. Let the second action revolution begin!
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On the other hand it has a guy getting his throat ripped out, and someone else being turned into paste, so a thumbs up from me.
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I watched it again and feel my last post didn't quite do this justice. This could very well be one of the greatest things I've seen. The throat rip is perfection and admittedly even on the second watching the gunning at point blank range of that guy in the truck made my jaw drop! You sir are the man!
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not a pussy PG13. Gimme the gore!
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Holy fucking shit! I was laughing with glee watching this. This made my day.
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Looks interesting. I'm sold.
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Just remember this Sly..... you NEED Goldsmiths score. The guys dead, I know... but keep the score dude. Re-use if you must, but keep it in there. Its a long road man....
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Good job Sly. If I had a hat, I would tip it to you.
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dont wimp out on the rating here. This NEEDS to stir people up and get them talking. Thats exactly what worked for Rocky Balboa. People were EXPECTING the film to die on its ass, to show Sly up and I hate to say it but I think a lot of people went to see it out of morbid curiosity - "lets watch the old guy get slapped around for 2 hrs"... this needs to be as, or even more, impressive a fuck off to those people than RB was...
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good for any occasion.
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The gore is right back in those 80's powerhouse action-movie stylee'. I thik that in the wake of Saving Private Ryan and Black Hawk Down, the film world has really taken a turn for the realism uber alles. Its great to see the schlock violence of the old style coming back, and i really think it's been missed. When you take it to that much of an extreme it becomes almost comic-book hyper-reality.
LFoDH (or DH 4.0 over here in the UK) has gone for a completely different look. It's far more modernised, but the Die Hard Films did change progressively over the years to suit the current tastes, look at DH1 vs DH2 vs DH WaV. in the same way they've ramped it up to suit the modern appeal which is a gritty looking darkly styled 24-alike vision. Rambo would never have suited that. -
GO RAMBO GO RAMBO GO!!!
I just send the Link to 30 people.
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Count me officially excited.....hollyyy freaking crap...pleaseee keep everything i saw. Make it straightforward no BS. I actually think the gritty cinematography during all the little jungle chases help keep that savage look. The little things are going to make this work besides more of the asian ground beef ala gun turret.....I don't think i'll ever desire a Metal Gear Solid movie if this reaches it potential( that is saying alot).
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That was fantastic! I really miss this kind of action. It's so hard now-a-days to find an action movie that doesn't include some kind of kung fu or wirework. Thank you Mr. Stallone for bringing back ACTION!
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This guy is seriously smart. He knows who to appeal to and how. I just re-watched Rocky Balboa and that film is very good. When you think about all the ways that project could of stunk. . . Maybe Stallone should direct the next spider-man movie.
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PLEAS SLY KEEP THIS ONE NC 17 ! CAN YOU IMAGINE THE STORM OF PRESS - TV THIS WILL GENERATE IF THE MOVIE IS UNCUT FULL ON AS IT LOOKS ON THE TRAILER ?
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Someone should inform the AICN staff that their quicktime conversion is not in the correct format, it's totally badly streched.
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Hey guys I see the disclaimer saying it should load quicker. If I rt-click and download it stops at 474kb. Same if I let Quicktime launch. Can someone post a mirror?
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When did a NC-17 movie ever make money? Fuck sake, the film is going to be a hard R you can't ask for more. If it were NC-17 you would be asking for it to be x rated and incorporate a scene where Rambo instigates animal rape. The Die Hard ratings fiasco makes sense but when people start calling for films like this to be NC-17 you make the whole AICN community look like morons.
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Harry can please you put it on 3 or 4 links and servers, as it's not loading for me and the one server probably can't handle thousands of hits per minute.
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Now THAT is a throwback to the fantastically absurdly awesome days of Commando.
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I turn 35 in a few weeks, but for a few minutes, you made me feel like a 14-year-old again. Thanks for the trailer. We'll see you on opening night.
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Is that from the same team who literaly crushed in a wrong format the trailer sent by Sly ? You guys should get away from your computer screens. An NC-17 Rambo is gonna be a WORLD SHATTERING EVENT.
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guess i gotta right click and try to save vid. when i click the link it downloads to a new window and nothing plays even though it says done! WTH
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That slicing of the head was EXTREMELY UNEXPECTED! I screamed OH SHIT... Go ahead SLY... !!!!!!!!
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That slicing of the head was EXTREMELY UNEXPECTED! I screamed OH SHIT... Go ahead SLY... !!!!!!!!
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It kicks ass ands is bloody as hell. I know Stallone will be reading these posts so to him I say- I hope John finds peace at the end,you know what I mean.
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try posting with a 2 year old on your lap.
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try posting with a 2 year old on your lap.
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This movie is going to KICK SO MUCH UNHOLY ASS!!! It's a balls-to-the-walls take no prisoners kinda movie from the looks of those 3 minutes! SUMMER 2008 can't get here soon enough! Imagine seeing this preview over LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD!!! Sly if you are reading this and I know you are...as long as you stay true to Jerry Goldsmith's classic score/themes (while also adding some new music) and have a great "Rambo running in slow motion from a MASSIVE explosion shot a la RAMBO: FIRST BLOOD PART II -the mountain scene- this movie is going to RULE!
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but if there is censor trouble then I'm sure everyone would be happy with a Hard "R" at the flicks and an unrated DVD a few months down the line.
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Hard R, pull-no-punches movie is all I need. I just hope the whole "Christian" angle is not ham-fisted. I want this movie to be as enjoyable for an old agnostic fart like me, as it will be for Christians. Part gore, part subtle, with a satisfying ending... don't let me down Sly! Once you're done with Rocky and Rambo, you can rob the Academy with your Edgar Poe movie starring Robert Downey Jr!!! And PLEASE, let this rumor about your involvement in Cameron's AVATAR be true!
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http://screenrant.com/archives/awesome-john-rambo-footage-750.html
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This movie is going to KICK SO MUCH UNHOLY ASS!!! It's a balls-to-the-walls take no prisoners kinda movie from the looks of those 3 minutes! SUMMER 2008 can't get here soon enough! Imagine seeing this preview over LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD!!! Sly if you are reading this and I know you are...as long as you stay true to Jerry Goldsmith's classic score/themes (while also adding some new music) and have a great "Rambo running in slow motion from a MASSIVE explosion shot a la RAMBO: FIRST BLOOD PART II -the mountain scene- this movie is going to RULE! Now that I'm thinking about it, maybe you should get a jump on the competition next summer and release this at the end of April or early May so you have a few weeks before Memorial Day. That way JOHN RAMBO can pull a SPIDER-MAN 3 type massive launch on the worldwide box-office audience. Last but not least Sly, I know you and Governor Schwarzenegger see each other on a regular basis, so if Arnie is planning on coming back to films after his term is up in 2010, give him some good advice on how to "come back" and kick the audiences ass real hard by making KING CONAN as fucking BLOODY and HARD R like JOHN RAMBO. In fact, tell Arnie he needs to make KING CONAN for his fans like you are doing with JOHN RAMBO. Thanks ALOT for making my day. You have a real BLOCKBUSTER on your hands. I bet you Mario Kassar and Andrew Vajna are pissing their pants wishing they were producers on JOHN RAMBO!
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i think is not too interesting looking, except the blood stuff, which might be fun i guess if you are not o the burma side. Nothing new here. And is pretty bad put together, with usual trailer cliche all the way.
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I hope what we get is a feature length version of that footage. I do have to agree with those who feel that some of that will get re-edited, though. Which is a bit silly; if you shoot a guy that many times (especially at close range) with a .50 caliber machine gun... well *that's* all that'll be left of him.
SpencerTrilby: I wouldn't be too worried about a so-called "Christain" angle. When you see Ken Howard reciting scripture; just think of it as the same way "Tomstone" used Revelation. It's very much like when Kurt Russell as Wyatt Earp was yelling, "I'm coming! And hell's coming with me!"
It's just a non-comical version of, "Here come the judge." Or in this case total retribution and payback for the bad guys, in the form of John Rambo.
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Reencode the video in the correct format
and put multiple links in there, people are going nuts !
I'm not saying it should be NC-17 period, just that it should be UNCUT, even if it as to be NC-17. Sly if you read this (and I know you will, don't tame this movie ! -
Honestly I was doubtful. I mean Rocky Balboba was great and unexpected. John Rambo on the other hand I was a bit leery. Looks like Sly proved me wrong. Good christ that was just, wow. Count me in opening day for this one. A real throw back to what looks like a true action film.
Me and Vern have been going at it about Transformers and he made a comment how he blames Bay for the decline of most modern action films in todays day and age. While I am not a Bay fan I thought that was a bit of a stretch on his part as I think John Woo is to blame for all that slow-mo action bullshit with the shaky cam nod going to Bay. But with this teaser of John Rambo I think me and Vern will agree that this is one action movie that does not seem to suffer from any modern day film making. This looks about as classic as you can get and could inspire a new generation of action film makers if this movie as a whole is as good as that teaser just was.
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Awesome! This film is going to kick some major ass! Great job Stallone!
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They drew first blood, not me! Anyway, sly, looks like you have created another success. Nice work.
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if Lucas did for episodes I-III what Stallone has done with Rocky & Rambo.
Just took what was great about the first films, contemporized it and just amped it up.
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made me laugh like a school girl. This is going to rock hard!
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That was freaking amazing. Sign me up.
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May 19, 2007 12:18:09 PM CDT
Great trailer. Looks like some SPR influence...MUSIC!!!
by iamjack'suserid
PLEASE, let there be a lot of Goldsmith's themes in this movie. That's all I ask. His scores from the films are very underrated, and they're absolutely terrific. Take a cue from what John Ottman did with the Superman music for Superman Returns. Unless of course this is already the case.
Also, I want to see Trautman addressed in this movie. Like in Rocky Balboa, will we see Rambo at the grave of his only friend in the whole world? I hope so (and think you're smart enough to address this in the film). -
Awesome, Mr. Stallone I salute you, you went back to your roots and delivered with Rocky Balboa, big time. Now it looks like you're about to put the balls back into modern action films, none of this castrated PG-13 nonsense like your friend Bruce is giving us in Live Free or Die Hard (no offence, I like the guy, he's a fine actor, but his new movie looks like shit). Aside from the glorious violence (please don't cut it before it's released) the film looks very good, well shot, good dialogue, and what seems to be an even darker, more bitter Rambo. By the way, come back and do the question thing again with us, Bruce has done OK, but his stuff is too sanitised, whereas you just told it how it is, and man! it was hugely entertaining, still the best thing this site has ever done.
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going to come off end this movie?
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I like what I see. I was already interested in this one (thanks to the most-excellent "Rocky Balboa"), but now I really want to see it. Stallone sure remembers how to thrill us with bloodshed!
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Take a note Marvel.
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The gore is right up there with the best horror/slasher pics. That's good. The action is fast-paced (judging from the preview alone). I hope the rest of the movie is as action-packed. The story-line seems OK, but is still a bit vague.(again, only seeing the preview, and not reading the script). I don't want to ruin it for myself, so that's OK, too. It's probably not going to win any awards for best pic. Obviously it's going to be a fun popcorn movie. I'm OK with that, too. I don't always watch movies that are in contention for awards. Sometimes I watch movies for a bit of escapism, just hoping to be entertained for a couple of hours. I agree that this is not just a return to form for the franchise. It does look 'dialed up' a few notches. I liked Rambo I and II (III, not-so-much, but I did see it), so it'll be good to see what happens next. A question for Sly: It seems like you're getting completion on some of the fan's favorite characters. Does this mean that you'll be retiring soon, or are you just looking to move away from the action-hero genre and move on to other, more diverse roles?
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That's all
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does that movie still look and feel great today, one of my top 10 movies and thankyou Sly for not going all pussy on us and giving us a pg13 diehard (fer fucks sake bruce why why!!!!) anyways im loving your comeback man, Balboa and now John rambo goin apeshit on badguys 80's style... fucking count me in mate.
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After reading this, they are gonna reshoot DH4 scenes to make it more violent, or reinsert previously deleted gore from the cut, because they will wet their pants at the thought of R4 making them eat their investment money.
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Have exceeded my expectations for the Movie love all the Rambo flicks this one looks great well done to all involved for not holding back with the violence and gore, whats next for Sly after this I suggest Demolition Man Reloaded with Sandra Bullock getting cut in half with a chainsaw in the first scene and Rob Schneider getting put thru a blender head first I would pay double to see that
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This is all what Rambo stood / stands for! Loneliness, the search for peace of mind, suffering, ultra violence, and one hero who keeps on going! I am glad you brought Rambo back!
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That should be the name of the movie.
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STALLONE!!!!! YOU BRILLIANT, BRILLIANT MAN, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE????????? Oh my God, man, bring this movie ON!!!!! AMAZING!!!!!!
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It took awhile to download but it finally did. Great looking trailer. I can't wait for this one.
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when I heard he was making another Rocky and Rambo I rolled my eyes thinking "hey we go, old movie stars trying to relive the glory days..." I didn't see Rocky Balboa, but this trailer has fully convinced me that I want to see Rambo, and maybe even go back and checkout Rocky. The gore level really set it off. I had long pined for the days of gory 80's movies and the .50 cal at point blank range is a total "holy shit" moment. I LOVE IT!
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Yeah, they could tone down the blood just a little. But keep it R!
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the run on these things is huge so perhaps it'll be better to:
a) encode a proper quicktime or divx file
b) use a torrent for distribution
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Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' bout!
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..but I like it. It brings back memories of the great action movies of the '80's. When is the last time we have seen anything similar? I also think it is good the Christians here are not Ned Flanders parodies but have real convictions. Bravo.
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WHOA!! that was awesome, took me right back to mu childhood..Stallone, you are the man!!! Have been emailing a link to everyone I know...
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People want movies that deliver! Whether it be an outrageous comedy : "Something about mary" or a terrifying thriller : "Silence of the Lambs". People didn't go to see these movies because there was no cursing, or no cigarette was smoked, or because they were all PG13. This is a Rambo movie, and we all know what Rambo does best! Thank you Mr. Stallone. I am sure it will be a great movie!
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In the news of the Iraq war (and others) we're getting a sanitized story. We as civilians have been getting a "clean" war story for a long time, and this film is going to shock us into remembering that war is BLOODY, HORRIBLE, and not glamorous and all-heroic. This film is showing us the horror, the gore, the truth of war.
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Looks fucking amazing Sly.
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Unbe-fuckin-lieveable. Man, that was outright balls to the walls murder. I wasn't so sure this would work as a movie, but seeing guys get decapitated and having their guts spilled just screams "Holy Shit, See This!" A+. Bitches.
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Wow, just wow. Done right. It's good to see a genuine bad ass doing his thing again.
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..that blond chick's all lines should be on the floor of the editing room.
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That's it, Sly Stallone is a fucking genius. He knew that we needed decades in the interim, noth for the audience, the actor and the character to be ready, but fuck me if he hasn't asolutely look to have nailed John Rambo as well. This 1-2 combo of revisiting his most iconic characters has (with the 20x20 questions as well, of course) elevated my opinion of Sly immeasurably. My respect for the man is now right up there with Richard Burton, Stanley Baker, and Mel Gibson.
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That scene where he is on his knees looks just like the scene where Jack blows his head off. Good stuff.
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To finally give closure to his story? Oh yeah and is this one retconning Rambo 3 since he apparently starts in Thailand again? I hope so. Anyway this was great, Rambo looks insane and pissed and the violence is just like the 80s. Loved the shot of the guy getting shot with the arrow and falling on the land mine, nice change-up of the exploding arrows in part 2. ^^;
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How long does this thing take to load?
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Can't wait to see which studio wants that 300 audience badly :)
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I will be there on opening day for this one, guaranteed!
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Yeah, the action is great.Love it. I'll be there opening day. But I also liked all the character stuff, which was one of the strong points of the first Rambo movie. Frankly, if we don't care about the characters, then all the violence in the world will become tedious in about 15 minutes. Way to go Sly! Congrats.
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we'd be drooling like crazy over "John Rambo" and wishing to hell that they'd re-eidt "Die Hard 4.0"? Anyone?
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Very wary of this... thought it was Stallone going back to the well one to many times. Hey, if Rocky Balboa worked why not John rambo... that being said, loved the first half of the trailer, the downtrodden Rambo just waiting to die, thought stallone was very effective, i expected to laugh at it but did not. The violence was very very gory, but that's not my problem. My problem is that it had the feel of a direct to video movie in the second half. Hopefully when the footage is spliced and touched up it will look better. But again, really liked the first half.
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That was so beautiful it made me tear up a little.
Mr. Stallone, a few notes:
1) Don't listen to the tools in this talkback calling for an NC17. We're not ALL stupid and most of us support your right to make money. This looks hard R and God bless you for it.
2) Speaking of God... I actually like the Christian angle a lot but there's a fine line with it... if you're going to go there then GO THERE. Make them humanitarians... include scripture etc... but consult with church leaders and specifically MISSION FIELD leaders... the people who actually sent missionaries. Not just greenpeace or the Peace Corp or whatever.
Because if you start with the Christian stuff but then you water them down in their faith, or make them conflicted, or whatever that Hollywood so often likes to do to Christians to make the people less sympathetic, well, I think you'd do that to the detriment of the film.
I love Jesus and I love a good hard R violent action movie as escapism. But I hate it when people disrespect my faith or water down what should be a good hard R violent action movie as escapism. Be my hero. -
Opening day... can't wait. Thanks, Sly!
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But only a little. Holy fuck that was badass, I wasn't even excited to see this flick. Sly is the man.
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Apocalypto is like a "G" compared to this. Sly, got a few anger issues, Yuh? Motherfuck! The first shot of conflict shows a dude's head coming off then another shot into hamburger, a dude's throat squished like a bread then ripped out. Then another dude's head exploding like a melon. Keep up the good work!
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I thought that was some of the best action I've seen in a movie in a long time and looks like the seriousness actually comes off seriously without any cheese, The only thing I can say that would be the slightest bit negative would be the music seems a bit TV movie by todays standards.
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SLY, don't mind the gore, but use it in a more engaging fashion. Most of them look too 'set up'. It's like gore for the sake of gore. "look how cool the gore is"**** the scene with the 50 cal WORKS though, that is awesome. The rest seem like it's trying too hard. Good luck, ROCKY BALBOA was great.
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Judging by this huge talkback and positive word from these jaded talkbackers, Sly you have a mega hit with JOHN RAMBO. I bet you Bruce Willis and you will talk about the rating his last DIE HARD film is getting flack for. Sly, while you're at it, let Governor Schwarzenegger know that he should get Paul Verhoeven or James Cameron to direct CRUSADE (the script Arnie owns)like JOHN RAMBO. Religious and bad ass!
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again. that was ... whoa.
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as long as a few of those christians get shredded
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This might easily get slapped with an NC-17 if the rest of the movie is that intense and in-your-face gory and violent. Hopefully the us distributor (apparently Lionsgate) won't puss out if that happens. Attractive looking production values on display - it's interesting to see Millennium Films start making actual movies instead of direct-to-cable junk. Stallone clearly had a respectable if not huge budget here.
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This is the way how movies like rambo should be made. No bullshit PG13. If you make it like the trailer promises, I'm there with my wallet voting...And I know won't be alone. Just remember, don't to make John Rambo a joke...or a poet :D He's da killing machine.
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That trailer/footage was WAY better than I had hoped. If that was the final trailer, I'd be pumped as all hell to get in line for that one.
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That's actually lifted directly from the score for George Romero's "Land of the Dead." It's titled "To Canada" according to the CD
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Put that in your pipe & smoke it McClane. Shocked in a positive way. Looks great. I wasnt expecting alot from JR. You've pulled no punches and you'll do well for it.
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Wow, great opening, interesting locale. Excellent 80s violence. Exceeded my expectations majorly.
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HI SLY!!
I wrote this comment from Chile, southamerica...I'am a big fan of your movies, and the trailer of JOHN RAMBO is GREAT!! Only one question...What happens with the classic score of Jerry Goldsmith?? -
...before they're killed off AGAIN! (Or in Darla's case, for I guess the... third time?)
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that was really bad ass. When I was hearing about them making this movie i was thinking "give me a fuckin' break! Let it die already!" but this has peaked my interest, might even be worth a theater visit for this one. I'm not a huge Sly fan, don't really like him, don't really think he's an OK actor, but this movie looks like it's gonna rock the shit. Plus it has Dexter's gf in it so i should go and support her.
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Mr. Rambo, welcome back - weeeeeee've mmmmissed you... Sly, don't let the gore fetishists and borderline racists put you off keeping the film as brutal and intense as this trailer would suggest that the film is. While the aforementioned folks do get off on stuff like this, lots of regular, balanced folks do too. Looks like an intense and fantastic couple of hours in the theater - count me in. Also, I'm pretty sure I heard a "HhuuuuaaAAAARRggghhh!!!" in there somewhere, which made it solid gold for me.
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I LOVE this trailer BUT c'mon. The hair extensions, the pansy clean shaven look? The jet black hair. The fackin $2.99 extra large Fruit of the Loom t-shirt? John Rambo (when in killing machine mode) is just that -- a KILLING MACHINE. Rewatch first blood and part II. The scene where he's tying his shoes in PREPARATION for battle is the one of the best action sequences of the last twenty years IWTH NO ACTION. BRING THE FACKIN HURT. Stallone, you are built like a fackin BEAR for this one. Let's see that bear. I don't want to see some aging hippy clean shaven Jerry Garcia lookalike ripping people's throats out. I want mayhem, I want STALLONE.
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i hate watching trailers, but i figured this trailer is so early, might as well watch it. liked the setup. stallone still looks like a movie star. THEN you see the first kill, and you are like, 'did he just do that?' then the second blood bag! at that point, mr. stallone, i turned off the trailer. NOT because it sucked, but because it was so fucking amazing, i wanna see this on the big screen, in all its bloody glory. unfuckinbelievable. after rambo, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep making your own movies!!! i cannot wait, and i emailed my friends to all watch this trailer. i only wish this film was coming out in a few weeks, because im dying to open up the file and watch the rest of the trailer, but i will hold off! bravo stallone.
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I fucking loved it, Sly. This has the hallmark of a great revenge/hostage don't mess with our badass hero movie. It's funny that I only watched First Blood the other night and even though I loved the story, I couldn't help think that the direction and fighting scenes looked just a little too staged. Now fast-forward to present day and "this" Rambo has grown some big hairy balls and they look real. Just like the recent good Bond movie this Rambo admits it doesn't bother him killing... "When you're pushed, killing is as easy as breathing." Now that's how I like my anti-heroes. I'll be seeing this aswell as buying the dvd. Based on this segment this could even be the best movie of this year!! Am I over-reacting here?
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"John, NO...PLEAS" ...SPLAT____________________________
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'When you're pushed, killing's as easy as breathing.' I love that line. Sly, you have just awoken my inner 80s hardcore freak again. Your action movies have always been great. I love you man. Thanks for making a film that will make people talk. _KNEEL_
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You know, the music from Rambo when he's gearing up after his girl gets offed... the trailer NEEDS that music... make it happen stallong... BTW, liked Rocky Balboa, glad you made that film.
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I think i just scorched my shorts, sly is the man!
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Oh my god, hahaha. That was fucking unbelievable. He pulled it off with Rocky, but I was still pretty skeptical about Rambo. If the movie is as hardcore as that trailer, then I'm in.
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Let's see some of that intense gore in the ring. No gloves, no rules. Cage fighting. Anything goes till death.
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I can't tell you how absolutly psyched I am for this! The gore, the blood, one man army goodness, I think even as an NC-17 I think this could do well especially if marketed the right way. But I do think a "Hard R" would be an appropriate rating. But even at an NC-17 I think this film is for such a specific audience that it would do very well at that rating and the dvd sales will be quite good as well. I also agree that working with the original scores would do wonders for the film, much like Superman Returns worked with the iconic themes from the original. Keep it rough and raw on this one, awesome work Sly! And Rocky Balboa was one of my favorite films to come out in a while!
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I'm totally watching this.
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Before seeing this, I had about a 0% of caring about this.
But this looks so good. I really like how John is in this self induced isolation and now he is faced with this situation that is making him face people again.
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'nuff said
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That looks the business all right. I wasnt too bothered when I saw a few set stills but that clip that sly provided has the stoaked.
Nice to see some blood and gore along with those explosions for a change. Makes a change to all the PG-13 action flicks that everyone seems to aim for these days. Keep it hard core like that and people will flood to see it...I'm certain.
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I'M SOLD. I CAN'T WAIT. YO STALLONE, AFTER THE SUPRISING ROCKY BALBOA, LET'S HOPE LIGHTNING STRIKES TWICE.
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Thanks for bringin it back Sly! This really hits the spot.
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But when Sly [machete], and then when he [machine gun], I damn near shat myself. Way to go, Sly!
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I know you guys need unique content like this to keep people coming to your site, but don't heap praise on something that doesn't deserve it just to make Sly happy. A jowly action hero is ridiculous, even if he did have the good taste to cast Darla/Rita and Coach Reeves. And the last thing we need to be exporting abroad is more interventionist propaganda with a Christian subtext. Jesus.
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Just as long as it has Goldsmith's Rambo theme in it I guess.
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But it was missing one thing... Rocky punching a guy's head off, and the head flying across the room and exploding like a brain bomb on the audience. So it looks like Stallone is making up for that in spades with JOHN FUCKING RAMBO! I have a feeling when I'm playing Halo 3 next summer online, and someone is blown up in a really nice way, I'm going to yell "YOU JUST GOT JOHN RAMBO'D!"
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America needs this movie. Seriously. Thanks, Sly.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfBr5l4S63Q
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Overall a good trailer. This is a 3 minute snippet of the film, so I'm hesitabt to make any sweeping judgements. But it appears you've got something with great potential. On your hands here. Which is why it is all the more important that John Rambo be more than a "senseless killing machine" in order for this film to really rise above "splatterhouse" level. It looks like you've got a hint of that characterization in the trailer (showing John's religious side). Hopefully there is enough of that in the film for the audience to undertsnad the path Rambo chooses to take. well done, Mr. Stallone.
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That is a fucking action movie! Sold like a Honace Wagner for ten bucks! I'm there.
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... a movie with a white guy killing slope-eye'd gooks! Now, can we please get a few movies where we finally kill all the niggers, jews, spics and liberals?
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You have the war on terror, and John Rambo goes to BURMA?
What about Rambo being recruited by Delta Force to lead a team back into Afghanistan to take out a Taliban Cell, or Going into North Korea to take down a nuclear weapons depot? Make it as real as "Black Hawk Down". Make him a part of a team. Have someone like Al Pacino, Gene Hackman, James Caan or Denzel Washington play his C.O. to take over the Crenna spot. You could have an amazing moment where Rambo is at Arlington paying his respects to Trautman at his grave...With all due respect to Sly, why should we care about John Rambo fighting in Burma? I mean, the action looks just like more torture porn when Rambo doesn't take out an enemy we can know or root against? There are so many better stories to be told with Rambo than this one to me. -
All I get on either of them is a blank AICN page.
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I went to that link but theres a ton of other videos cant find that one...I dont know why AICN's page isnt loading...
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..this Rambo movie will blow everyone away, just like Rocky Balboa did.
I really like how they make it gory, for realism? It works very good.
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Stallone wants it both ways. At first he seems to be positioning this movie the same way he did Rocky Balboa, as a more dramatic, soulful return to a character that had become a caricature. Except, apparently, he also wants this more soulful Rambo to be the same kind of killing machine he was in the 80s. At least in the 80s, noone took this shit seriously, except, of course, for Stallone, who thought he was making grand political statements. This time it looks like he wants to have a dramatic character study, except rather than deliver an actual character, like he was able to accomplish in Balboa, he's merely pretending to add soul and dimension to a cartoon.
Rambo does not have the capacity to be realistic or meaningful, despite the inclusion of yet another "righteous vengeance" plot. If the movie were nothing BUT the over-the-top violence, that's fine. But pretending to elevate it with the bullshit dramatic claptrap in the first half of that footage just makes the whole thing even more absurd. -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= _D2e24qBILM
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It's coming from the source of the movie so it should be fucking HD. I just fixed the clip so the aspect ratio works and made it bigger and added some sharpness. It's too big to upload though.
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No offense to Sly or anyone at AICN, but all that trailer needed was some sort of ending. If it had one it could have been the shortest effective movie ever. I don't think I would need to see the full movie. Going to see the full movie would be like watching a mega extra large directors cut with 90 minutes of added footage!
That preview kicked all sorts of ass and I will totally be watching it day 1. It's what Rambo should have been doing in the other movies. My real critique would be to lose the A-Team font at the end and don't use the catch phrase "Attacking Soon". Well don't use them together. -
...but OMFG! I can't wait. My every-other-saturday Rambo marathons will never be the same.
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No offense to Sly or anyone at AICN, but all that trailer needed was some sort of ending. If it had one it could have been the shortest effective movie ever. I don't think I would need to see the full movie. Going to see the full movie would be like watching a mega extra large directors cut with 90 minutes of added footage!
That preview kicked all sorts of ass and I will totally be watching it day 1. It's what Rambo should have been doing in the other movies. My real critique would be to lose the A-Team font at the end and don't use the catch phrase "Attacking Soon". Well don't use them together. -
Two thumbs up, Sly!!! Hope it's rated NC-17, hehe!
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Stallone aint playing, this one is definitely going down in history. Grew up watching these movies, and I love that your bringing it back, there are no more heros the kids can look up to anymore. Just tell me one thing is Silvestri sill doing the music? I'd hate to see a Rambo without that great soundtrack.
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Stallone, you son of a bitch! Now how are we going to settle for the rest of the action movies we're getting?! Tell me that!?
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wow! Rambo is fucking back and he looks more badass and gruesome as EVER!
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That link worked just fine.
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How silly is that statement, in a YouTube world?
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Clicking on the link, I never expected to see footage so gory or glorious. Upon hearing of another Rambo movie I felt certain I would see it in theaters, but after watching this footage, Im F-ing pumped to watch this thing. Well done Sly.
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May 19, 2007 2:23:17 PM CDT
Needs a stretched out tank top and allblack Zubaz pants
by thebearovingian
It's just not Rambo until you hear the grunting. But when he's firing guns AND grunting with a distorted and squished up look on his face: that's Rambo!!! However, in all honesty, the text in the GI Joe font at the end of the trailer was pretty hokey. Rambo's lacking some of the edge in his voice too (the gritted teeth, the breathy, drooly, raging voice).
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he's bringing real movies back. no toning it down for the suits.
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Even though I am a huge Rocky fan, I never paid much attention to Rambo. I've seen the second one and parts of the first but thats it. And when the first pics came out of John Rambo and I wasn't convinced. As much as Stallone got my attention and love back with Rocky Balboa, I thought he might've been overreaching for his glory days by one film. But now that I see this footage, I'm turned completely around. I watched it with my bro (who has never seen a Rambo film) and we both loved it. Forget about the awesome blood-spattering, the trailer really sold me as a conflicted guy who is trying to keep out of a world of violence. And when he finally gets drawn back in, god help you. The reveal of Rambo creeping up behind the first guy really makes you think "oh shit, you just woke the sleeping giant" and then all hell breaks loose. Also, I recently read the old paperback of First Blood and the character is so well defined in the novel and Stallone seems to reamain true to him with this new film. In the book, Rambo is a proud man who doesn't like being told what to do, but he's terrified by how good of a killer he has become. When he is being hunted in the woods, he kills anyone and everyone in his way, no matter how innocent b/c of the simple fact that "killing is like breathing" to him once it gets started. It is a switch for him that once its turned on, he doesn't know how to turn off. The book is full of gore and violence but at the same time full of internal conflict that I feel like this trailer understands and showcases. So to sum it up, kudos Sly and if the movie is half as cool as this trailer, I think we're all in for a bad-ass action movie, and perhaps one that will make us think once again.
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I do believe that THAT is what Rambo is doing in his old age. I really like the trailer, I think the look is great and the whole build up of how Rambo tries to avoid getting involved at first. I have always been a fan of the characters who make an attempt to be non-violent before they inevitably go out and kill a bunch of people. And of course, THANK CHRIST somebody remembers the appeal of hard-R action where you can see what's happening.
Of course, violence is not enough. I'm pretty sure Stallone knows this, but we'll see. I hope this is a story that really gets into the character more and brings some kind of closure to his whole problem of being a killing machine that you can't turn off. What's so great about FIRST BLOOD is how the whole conflict stems out of character, from the stubborn personalities of Rambo and Brian Dennehy colliding. And then he turns into this killing machine and goes on a rampage, but it's all building to that emotional outburst where Rambo starts blubbering about Vietnam. It's action at the service of character, just how it should be.
Hell, even in RAMBO III I like the character bits about how he's a stickfighter now and he doesn't want to get involved in any military conflicts. But then it gets silly. Even though the violence is over-the-top I think this one looks more intimate, more down to earth with him sneaking around as a guerilla instead of being a fuckin one man army. So at least in that sense it might be a little more like FIRST BLOOD than the sequels. Which is definitely a good thing.
I actually really like Grey Ghost's idea. Rambo should be a crazy old hermit with a big ass beard. He should be to a point where even if Colonel Trautman had seen him he'd have to do a double take and say, "Holy shit, THAT'S what became of John Rambo?" But don't worry about it Sly, I don't want you adding a digital beard on there. We can live with what you shot.
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Awesome. Has anyone got a link to the trailer that has the correct aspect ratio?
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Good to see Rambo back in fine form. Don't change a thing, Sly, just keep going in the same direction you already are with this. The tone of the footage reminds of Trautman's line from Rambo 3, "God would have mercy. He won't."
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I liked it a lot. I don't think I've ever seen violence quite like that before. I'd would have liked to have seen Rambo grey haired for some reason - like an old weary silverback gorilla... Very excited. Very. I peed myself a little.
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Now that's Rambo! Keep it "R" everytime for these types of action movies. If this was "real life". This is how it would look. It's not too fake/too much blood & guts. SLY, after This "JOHN RAMBO" movie make one more and have the USA goverment seek John R. out and somehow convince Rambo to go to the middle east and Fuck up some terriorist a-holes!
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Well, movie made by Sly.
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When you can get weary audience who think that Sly is Old and Rambo Sucks and that he is just running after shadows of his past glory suddenly go : "what ? what the ? gasp ? did he just rip this guy head of ? Wha- ? Is that a man reduced to pulp ? Uh ? Ripped throat with bare hands ? what the--" "Oh man, I'm really into seeing this movie", it only means THIS IS THE BEST EVER PROMO THAT EVER CAME FROM ANY MOVIE IN THE HISTORY OF FILM, ERADICATING ALL PRE-CONCEPTIONS OF THE AUDIENCE.
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http://www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/
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Move over other great trailers. This one wins.
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This is how action movies should be made today. What happened? This is a BIG kick in the balls that action fare today really needs. I'll check this out.
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That looks pretty fucking awesome.
I didn't expect the over the top gore. Or is it just right?
Seeing him grabbing at the guy's throat and slowly ripping it out... wow indeed.
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Stallone, PLEASE use that same font in the actual film!
by thelivingdoll
Seriously...the font sold me. And if it's actually used in the film, it will sell me multiple tickets. STALLONE...IS...MY HERO.
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or other PG-13 drivel. Sly you look like you have another hit on your hands. It even feels like the first film, not so overblown like the other sequels. I will pay to see this one. Off to go watch Predator...
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Bloody good trailer :D
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I love the movie, the photography is excellent, the violence is what we have been waiting for a long long time. Hollywood you pussies take lessons from this flick, this is John Rambo. WOW.
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MOTHERUCKER! That is the very epitome of badass! Sly, if your reading, don't let the MPAA fuck you. If they'll let hostel slide, they better let you! Great stuff!
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Ripping out Goldsmith's music would be like John Williams not scoring a Star Wars or Indiana Jones filck. Unthinkable. Please do the right thing Sly and use the main theme, both in its slow and action versions, one of the all time great movie themes. Oh and how cool is the shot where Rambo rises up behind the sentry. Classic moviemaking. Another reason it looks so good? No CG involved. Kudos Mr Stallone.
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Neat work, Mister Stallone.
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looks like its going to be the best action film in a decade
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Sly, you won me over with Rocky Balboa, which was one of my favorite movies last year. I'll watch anything you do, but hell if you didn't get me extremely excited for John Rambo. I had a smile on my face each time one of the gore shots appeared. We need more throats torn out in films, I think you proved that, lol. Also you got me thinking you'd be perfect to direct a live-action Venture Bros movie because you'd film the Brock Samson action scenes perfectly. Anyway, 2008 can't come soon enough. John Rambo has shot up to one of my most anticipated movies. I'll be there opening day. Thanks for bringing quality excitement back to cinema.
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FUCKING SHIT that was awesome.
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Hey Sly, this footage looks awesome! It seems you've stayed very true to the originals from that preview. Really excited about seeing this movie, more so than any film next year. Im glad someone had the balls to put out a movie with no holds bared action. Its good to have John back....
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Now pay for my fuckin' candy, moolie.
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I suddenly felt my chest itching like hell right after having watched this, and to both my horror and surprise I can actually see more chesthair growing... I'm afraid to watch the entire movie as I'll probably get a silver stake in my ass from some werewolf hunting bastard right afterwards.
This to me looks like it's taken the realism and grittiness from the first one and mixed it a bit with the two sequels, but to the extreme. I'm very excited about this, I grew up with the Rambo movies and been dreaming about the return of some great 80s style action. Sly kicking it old school is gonna make my year I think. -
Sorry...but I have no idea what the rest of you were watching. That looked like a straight to video sequel. The gore was remeniscent of Itchy and Scratchy and the score was terrible. I am sure it will be fine tuned and look more professional but the violence needs to be more realistic.
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Whenever it is, it won't be soon enough.
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were good and not cartoons. Reeks of 80's excess and I love eveery damn minute of it. Great job. I've never even seen a rambo movie, but I'm sure as hell seeing this.
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Definitely an unfinished look to it, but damn! Now that's Rambo!
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That would be sweet.
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That was amazing.
The nitpicking is moot. It's a mock up trailer for distribution. I'm sure the official trailer will be even better; those trailer magicians sometimes make the trailer better than the movie. And you know Goldsmith's theme will be in it, of course it will.
The thing about violence:
Without context, it's meaningless. We don't know if this is a throwback to the '80s, a grindhouse effort, a critique on war, utter exploitation, or showing the true horror of violence. The film will provide context and help us see it in the way it wants to, for good or bad, whether we personally agree with it or not, so we have to wait for that.
(That said, the violence gave me priapism.)
The way Rambo delivers the "push" line chills me, because he is a character that snaps and justifies violence, and this might be a movie that calls that into question, where before it glorified it. Who knows? It's probably the most fitting outro for the man, to be consumed by what he has always been.
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I like the look of it. I like movies that make violence look like what it is, brutal and quick and not a choreographed dance.
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You're all correct about that. Yo Sly - come on back here for some more questions when this is getting ready to be released. We'd love to talk to you again.
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...anyone know when or if the Batman/Bin Laden story is coming out? Or did I just miss it already?
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You probably never smoked, never drinked, never went out with a woman in your life and sitting in front of your computer going "niahh niaahh niaaahhh Stallone straight to video niaaaahhhhh" you must have a definitive ejaculation thinking you are superior to the man who created Rocky and gave us Rambo.
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In other words really bad
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With Kurt Russell as an old Snake Plissken, written and directed by Stallone. Now, this is a sequel I would like to see !
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Our reluctant hero is totally compelling and charismatic as ever. The subject of Burma & missionaries is perfect. Stallone looks & sounds amazing! However, I think the excessive (visible) blood and guts will detract from what an amazing & successful story/film this will be. There is great power in implied violence. Thank you for sharing your footage with us - I can't wait to see it completed. God bless you!
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Sly, I really hope you arent forced to make any cuts. The prieview looks fuckin amazing. Im there, opening day. Do you think you'll be asked to take anything in particular out of the movie? Cheers
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Finally, a real aciton film. I am so excited about this, you have no idea. I loved Rocky Balboa (thanks for that). This looks brilliant. I can't fucking wait. I love Julie Benz too. Hope you can keep all that footage in. Regardless, I'll see it in the theater and buy the unrated DVD. Thanks Sly. It's been so long since I've seen a real action flick. Maybe LionsGate will wake up and do a proper Punisher movie now. So stoked to see this. Thanks again Sly. I feel your hard work paid off for this project. Be well and good luck with the MPAA (pussies).
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Count me in Sly, and I will not be the only one !
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Sly, if you read this, the trailer is fantastic! I, like many others, have been waiting for a return to visceral, unapolgetically gory and violent action. I hope the movie has the emotional punch of FIRST BLOOD and ROCKY BALBOA. Please - if it's not too late - put in some kind of homage to FIRST BLOOD, something like Rambo saying "Why you pushing me?" and an emotional speech at the end.
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Has sly took a course in how to sell movies or something in the last year cos man that dude can play a crowd now. I've gone from being vaguelly interested in this movie to being can't-wait-till-it's-out just from watching the trailer. Now that is what I call a hard-core badass action film, bring it on !!!
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THIS is an action movie.
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Just wanna say thanks for bringing the 80's back!!!!!!
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holy fuck...that was insane. Honestly I thought after Rocky Balboa that he would stay away from this sort of film, especially since he was directing but I think he went completely the right direction.
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I just watched it two more times and cannot agree with any of the complaints/gripes here. Everything worked for me. Everything. Hate to admit I am a gorehound, but I am. I really want all that in the release - be it theatrical or DVD. Well done Sly. I really enjoyed Rocky Balboa and I look forward to this. Repetitive post, I know. Sorry, I'm just so excited for this. It would be brilliant if this brought on a new wave of Real Action Films.
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Just one word..wow. This preview is amazing. From the looks of things you've kept true to the originals too. Really looking forward to seeing more of that intense action and also how John has coped all thee years. YOu're a legend Sly, finally a action movie with balls. Is this prieview close to the final trailer? See you at the cinema!
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check out this pic I've created by overlaying the pixel-y version and the original: http://www.avi-film.com/joker2.jpg
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of joy in my eyes, as I showed my son this. He couldn't believe what he has seen. "Who's Rambo, and who is this Stallone guy? He's making really great movies"; he says to me. Mr. Stallone, I salute you.
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I can't call you 'Sly' because I haven't earned the right to, but seriously, I've always loved your approach to everything you've done, right down to Rhinestone which to this day, is my favourite comedy after Borat and Animal House. Anyway, Rocky II is my favourite film ever and you're my hero. So thanks mate on so many levels. Especially liked on the biography channel when after Sergeoh's birth you so honestly expressed your anger at God for your son's illness. Fair play, your son was ill and you were angry. I respectr your comments. So honest. That's ONE of the reasons I'll be there when your film opens. You say it like it s. Respect. 'Balboa'was great by the way, give us one more classic my friend...
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I can't wait for this one. As it's been said before, no matter how "pussy" McClane is going to turn out, John Rambo's back, with a vengeance!!!!!
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No Timmy. Dear God, no. IT'S RAMBO TIME!!!!!!! Thank you Sly! YOU ROCK!!!!
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but it's a bit hard to tell from such a small clip. I like the level of "realism" (not sure if that's the right word) that the brutal blood/gore adds but if they're going to keep that then they need to get rid of the multi-angle explosions which cheapens the whole thing. And a more raw/grim/gritty lighting and directing style would probably have better suited the new level of violence too (many scenes just seem too artificially lit regardless though). I also hope that the story/character warrants that level of violence. In First Blood, Rambo was a reluctant fugitive who was forced into violence. He did all he could to avoid conflict and just be left alone, but they just kept pushing the issue again and again until he had no choice. That whole conflict was one of the best things about that movie. There's a hint of Rambo just wanting to live in peace in this movie too but right now it's hard to see all the forces that would compel him to become such a brutal killing machine again. On the other hand, if they want to go with a fun popcorn, FB Part2/3 feeling then I'd take the gore out. It would likely be out of place otherwise.
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Sly is redefining success.
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I loved Rocky Balboa (grabbed the Blu-Ray on release day), but I still had huge reservations on this one. My hope is that it gets back to being character driven like the original, as Rocky Balboa did. This looks like it's definitely a step in the right direction, AND the action looks great to boot.
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That was a compelling piece of film. If the final cut can maintain the energy and brutality of that teaser, then the movie could be a big hit, because there simply isn't much else like that in theaters nowadays - in the digital age, people always seem to blow up rather rather than bleed, and fights feel more academic than physical. The violence in the footage had a visceral "Saving Private Ryan" look that I think action movie fans would welcome; I know I would watch it. As far as plot and emotion, I liked what I saw in "Rocky Balboa" and I'll trust that Stallone knows how to give some resonance to the action.
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Actually i don't really want to do that, I'm a man and i'm not gay and Stallone isn't. It just cracks me up to imagine the movie executives reading the printed version of these comments, and coming up to that one.
So while I am here, I re-enact my loyalty to Stallone and his forthcoming movie. This one is going to rule and give the finger to Hollywood and their sanitised, overpriced CGI crap ! -
I AM SPEECHLESS.
THIS TRAILER IS UNBELIEVABLE.
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Rocky Balboa kicked ass.
John Rambo will kick ass.
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Holy, freakin' crap. This can not get here any sooner. Seriously. I WANNA SEE THIS NOW!!! Thx Sly!!!!
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Makes your head huge. Just look at Barry Bonds.
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I initially worried re the look of John Rambo, he looked too old and too tired but then the action kicks in and it's mean...
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That was a great mix of some true character moments as well as some of the most badass action these theaters will have seen in quite a while! I love how J.R. (literally) rises to the occasion. ... great shot.
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That was fucking great. I loved First Blood and have been wanting another Rambo film for years. Finnally a movie that looks like it has balls. Great work Sly.
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Granted, i'm not as pc FAMILIAR AS ABKing, but my love for the 80's boys is no less, so AB, you're my friend , not my enemy and... honestly... I heard that Goldsmith score and I was remineded of Bowed Down and Pilot Over from the second movivie and... I saw John. John J. I even saw Delmore Berry. I saw his cancer. It ate him down to the bone. I loved it. Go Sylvester. Don't sell your ass. Make the films you want to... We'll love you like we always have. You the man.
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it's getting clearer: http://www.avi-film.com/joker3.jpg Harry or you other guys, ain't this cool enough news for an article? ;-)
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I wish you the best, Sly. "First Blood" was one of the best ever. Any effort to recapture the masculinity and intensity of that movie is a step in the right direction. Good luck!
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I'm at work right now and just thinking about the possibilities of this.....Once again keep the movie intimate. It seems like you've done so with the character and the beautiful shots in the beginning of the trailer. All this will give more depth to the action and a greater payoff......Sly you've created a monster of a movie
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I had to put my face 3 inches from the screen to watch the tiny postage stamp video. If harry were not so enamored with quicktime we could all click 'full screen' and actually see this video.
In your face Bruce Willis.
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Is just a stupid ass who loves gore when it's shit like Hostel 2 ,but when it's punk ass terrorists or people committing genocide like in this film they want to say "maybe you should dial back the gore,it's ok for a horror movie when innocent women are getting there eye balls melted with a blow torch but please don't show some sick ass rapist geting cut up." fuck that shit. SLY STALLONE IS THE TRUTH AND JOHN RAMBO WILL BE THE GREATEST FILM IN A LONG TIME.
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If so, I'd love to hear about the musical score and about Col. Trautman's involvement. Goldsmith and Crenna were some of the most important assets to the film, and how will their absence be honored/made up in this film?
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This is the one to see folks. John Rambo is back and more violent than ever!!!
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OT, I'm seeing this in the cinema. No question.
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Unless the video was compressed at a larger size than the one they've got up now, you wouldn't want to see it in full screen. It's not Quicktime's fault that it's a postage stamp size. That's AICN's fault for compressing it to that size. Quicktime can support full-screen and High Def. If you're going to complain, complain about the compression, not the codec.
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Have I been moved to respond in a talkback on the site. I read it several times a day. But HOLY GOD MOTHERFUCKING CHEESEWIZ! By god that trailer is amazing and makes me want to run out and get First Blood from Best Buy right now! Can't fuckin' wait, this looks great!
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I will decide if something looks better in full screen or not, after I click the button and see for myself. I'll tell you though, 99% of the time it looks better full screen, pixelated or not. The quicktime player has no full-screen button, therefore it sucks balls. Like most things that come from apple.
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Really. I never got into '70s slashers or Italian horror, so this was maybe the most graphically violent and realisitc thing I ever saw this side of the classing early '70s action/adventure underground comix of Spain, Corben and Greg Irons. I trust there will be more to the story than what we saw, but if it's fifty minutes of "reluctant hero" pushed to the edge and then forty minutes of not stop cathartic head-ripping-off, that would work too. Still, it works because there is more to the character than the violence porn. The clip sets it up, then knocks it out. Certain positive adjectives will obviously be overused in this talkback, but I vote for "Awesome!" Wow, the flying head, the exploding guy with the close range machine gun fire, the throat ripped out, the arrow, the exploding guy. Yowzers... Although Greg Irons would taken the rapist, ripped his throat out with his teeth and pulled his nuts and cock off while he was still alive enough to feel it. But that would probably get you an NC-17 for sure. No one expects a Rambo movie to be a hippy anti-war flick, but in time of a war the government is afraid to let the media cover, depicting realistic military violence will serve as a wake up call. Like they said about everything from M*A*S*H to Private Ryan, a realistic war movie is, by default, automatically an anti war movie. If this is huge, I wonder if Warners and Dc will green light a Green Arrow Longbow Hunters movie where puts arrows through bad guys. If you told me "Stallone, 60, Rambo again" I would have laughed and said "Really? Seriously?" Now, if I tell anyone about this and they scoff I'll say "No. Really! SERIOUSLY!"
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knowing this will be cut to ribbons to play on TBS in three years will get the asses in the theater seats.
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...from Stallone, I think he's single handedly mastered revitilizing a stale series let alone two of them.
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took this kind of care in matching the tone and scope of the source materials I think more sequels, remakes and adaptations would be much higher quality.
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Looks fucking amazing. I've been waiting for 2 types of film to come out, a throwback to classic westerns and a throwback to classic 80s action flicks, this looks life it will satisfy my lust for the latter. Reckon im gonna be waiting a while for the western :-(. I swear I haven't seen a talkback so one-sidely positive for ages.
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Looks fucking amazing. I've been waiting for 2 types of film to come out, a throwback to classic westerns and a throwback to classic 80s action flicks, this looks life it will satisfy my lust for the latter. Reckon im gonna be waiting a while for the western :-(. I swear I haven't seen a talkback so one-sidely positive for ages.
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This looks so great!
This will be an action movie without compromises, just good old handmade action. I trust Sly with the Story and the vibe of the movie, he is becoming a great filmmaker!
The teaser has a great atmosphere, just include lots of the old Rambo music and it'll be perfect.
I can't wait to see the last episode in John Rambos life, bring on a good story with some mindblowing action. THIS LOOKS GREAT!
Greetings from Germany!
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Lots, and none of em worked. Not one. I did get to hear it though (the picture didnt work), so... it sounded good. No movie should ever be rated NC-17 for violence. I dont know why people keep bringing that up. I just hope The MPPAA isnt reading this thread, they dont need anymore bright ideas. Does Rambo smoke in this? Now THATS an NC-17. Right, Mr Glickman?
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Very much what I hoped it would be, none of what I was worried about. Hell Rocky Balboa was good, wasnt expecting that either.
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Too much blood! Knocking someone's head off! With his hand! No! No! I am a big fan of the Rambo movies, and some of this footage looks amazing, especially the Rambo shot behind the bad guy when he slowly comes into focus. Brilliant! But the Rambo films never had so much blood in them. There was always a cartoon element to the violence, in the sequels in particular. The blood in the clip just doesn't feel like Rambo, more like Saw or Hostel. Don't do it Sly! Keep Rambo, Rambo, knocks, punches, neck breaks, but not ripping someone's throat out! If Rambo has never done this before, why start now? When he's been out of action for almost twenty years? I can't wait to see this movie but keep it Rambo, not Friday the 13th!
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what an awesome trailer, but I REALLY want to hear the Rambo theme in the film, so it doesn't feel too distant from the others. but all in all, badass! I love that, "did you bring weapons?" "No" "then you won't change anything" take that you fucking pinkos!
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...it's like a one man EASTERN CONDORS, only without martial arts, and even more brutal than Sammo Hung's movie. Of course, CONDORS was Sammo's answer to RAMBO with a lot of DIRTY DOZEN thrown into the mix. Nice to see these things come full circle. If the MPAA NC-17s it, and since it's an independent film released by a Canadian company they will do just that, go with that rating. The audience will definitely be there for it, and we might finally see the NC-17 rated hit that de-stigmatizes the rating.
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I completely/wholeheartedly agree with you. I'm really looking forward to this and Iron Man. Hurry up 2008!
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It'sa about time someone made an action movie for men that isn't marketed to kids. I thought everyone had forgot about MEN! Nothing but a lot of ussies to scared to push the envelope anymore.....Way to showem whose got a pair Sly!
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Pay attention you youth culture pg-13 enamored sheeple!
This is how you make a film. You pick a project and then stay true to the vision of it. Make a movie for the FANS, you know the people who pay our money for it, and we ill reward you.
There are plenty of adults who will pay for an R-rated movie. (300 anyone?)
We still have alot to learn from th e generation that came before us. The are things that made 70's and 80's film work.
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Read this:
This trailer was absolutely APPALLING. Terribly shot, racist (seriously that blond white woman bit was embrassing), cheap, redpaint fest.
Did I mention it was terribly shot?
Yeah, go ahead masturbate to this shit not even thinking about the implications. You like violence in movies, that's fine. However, when the movie is nothing but violence and THEN CONDONCES THE VIOLENCE WITH STUPID SHALLOW OFFENSIVE FUCKING LOW INTELLECTUAL RELIGIOUS BULLSHIT, that's where I draw the line.
This movie will not get none of my money and I hope it bombs at Cannes.
P.S. I am not blaming Sly for dodger the Vietnam draft (which he did by moving to Switzerland of all places). I just find it a little strange that someone who did so much not engage in an actual fight would prosper during the Reagan era and crate one of the bloodiest, one dimensional characters ever.
And don't tell me that there's nothing political about the character and the role Stallone picks because we both know it's a lie.
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Can't believe no one has mentioned that bit of brilliance. Fab.
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..."directors" and "writers" who decide to take on a project that is an adaptation, remake, or sequel and piss all over it because they want to "do their own thing" and that's always what they say "I want to do my own thing with it" well if you want to do your own thing then do it with your own creations not someone elses.
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This is definitely hard core and brutally realistic. I know the Die Hard/Rambo comparisons are inevitable, but these franchises always approached violence in a different way. Rambo is a soldier and faced with more brutal violence. John McClane is a cop and an everday Joe, faced with insurmountable odds. If there was Rambo-like violence in a Die Hard movie it would be way too over the top and out of place. Think about it. The violence has to be relative to the situations and the plot. John Rambo should be harder and more violent than Die Hard 4. We movie geeks can enjoy BOTH movies for god's sakes. Why does everything have to be better than this or that--this is an immature way to evaluate movies, and rarely do you see Harry and Co. making that type of criticism part of their thoughts. Of course that's my opinion, I could be wrong.
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on aspects of FB, and hopefully those attibutes that will make this film another fitting close to a franchaise- retain the grit, mood and contrast of First Blood's cinematography and keep as much of Jerry Goldsmith's superb original music in Brian Tylers score as possible. Sly's directorial chops are excellent, and from the previous QA I get the feeling he's savvy enough to know what worked within the Rambo franchaise and what the final installment needs to work as effective piece of entertainment in today's action genre. Really looking forward too this.
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I'm not sure how you got all that from a three minute promo but I think you've got way too much time on your hands. And maybe if you could pull your head out of your ass long enough you might want to try and be constructive with your criticism instead of being an illiterate troll who just like to pop up and flame once and awhile.
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Just throw all the shot footage in the bin, re-schedule the movie to summer 2008, and get Stallone to reshoot the whole thing damnit !
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Goddamn!
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Well said sir!
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Gotta see it on IMAX. Clean up like 300 did.
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Stallone, where have you been?
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You can't fuck with John Rambo. This aint no PG-13. Stallone is king. My only crit is that it looks a 'lil home video-ey, but so did did the Rocky Bolboa clips and that looked better in the final version. Oh and Proman1984 (more like antiman2007) with this trailer Stallone has ordered this generation to MAN UP. It be best to heed the call.
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RevSick I dare you to point out one thing I said that WAS INACCURATE. Come on, I dare ya.
And it's not the three minute trailer. It's something we've known for a long time.
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What caliber bullets were those anyways? Go all the way on this one Sly!!!
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I missed you. Bring on the Stallone co-written/directed G.I. Joe! Don't dream it, be it.
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I hope the hype won't disappear until then (SoaP anyone?). If only the Afghan intro of Iron Man could be as awesome as John Rambo's teaser!!!
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Loved Rocky Balboa and love that you're returning to the Rambo series. Here's my only hope. Footage was great overall... BUT I think you need to tone down the GORE SHOCK shots just a bit. I know you're going for realism and those machien gun kills are pretty real... but it takes away from the action quite a bit. It's cool to have those few shots within the movie, like what was done with the exploding Vietnamese soldier in Part II, but having SO MANY of those shots takes the audience away from the suspense. You know what you're doing... not trying to tell you how to direct, but as a HUGE FAN I'm hoping SOME of those shots are in there... but just not peppered throughout the movie/action. The character aspect of John Rambo is the key. His inventiveness while creating warfare. Shit looks great! But just too much. Either way, I'm pumped as hell for it! Just be sure to do what you did with Rocky Balboa... give us those character moments. Lots of action yes, just a FEW GORE SHOCK SHOTS for "holy shit" moments for the audience... and explore John Rambo, the man and the myth. Great job overall though Sly! Impressed!
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I am so fucking happy I almost wanna cry. I mean, THIS IS ONE BIG MOTHERFUCKING R-RATED ACTION FEST we got here. The violence was so gritty and brutal that it did remind me of SAVING PRIVATE RYAN. And I loved it !! Finally a director who has some balls. No PG13 crap in JOHN RAMBO: he decapitated a guerrillero with his knife, ripped someone's throat with the hand, mangled bodies with a machine gun, holy shit yeah !
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In my day. But that takes the cake. Let's hope they don't dumb it down for the MPAA
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My initial reaction to the trailer was visceral. Rambo is doing what Rambo does best, which is outwitting and overpowering his opponents using any all all means at his disposal. More often than not, he dispatches his opponents at close range and hand to hand or rather hand to throat.
My only concern echos a previous statement posted by tailhook about the portrayal of the opponents and Rambo's dispassionate demeanor while killing. I am fed up with the negative portrayal of Asian men in Western cinema and in this film they are served up as cannon fodder for Rambo.
I pity any Asian guy who unwittingly encounters a group of impressionable young men who are influenced by this film to imitate the violence of Rambo, and I feel certain that this will happen. Western cinema routinely and overwhelmingly portrays Asian men in an unrealistic way that dehumanizes and emasculates them. I hope that this film does not follow in that path. -
Remember? He's ust a cinematic wannabe hero who tries to REVIVE his career be revisitng characters from his glory days and revamping them to appeal to the LOWEST common denominator for stupid fucking gore wankers like yourself Fenrisulfr and superize and your fellow AICN morons.
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Is this trailer going to play during the intermission in Grindhouse 2?
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Good to see some old assholes from division get smoe big screen time. I hated Chappelle as a character up until the season where Jack has to smoke him. I honestly sat on the edge of my chair muittering to myself, "Holy fuck, holy fuck they did NOT just make Jack kill Chappelle!" One of the best 24 moments ever. Anyways, I like him as an actor from what I've seen so far, and can't wait to see what he does in this Rambo Film.
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Sly, the clip is great. And thanks being on such an accessible level. Just showed the clip to my wife and she said she would like to see it when it comes out. Yep, I have a cool wife. Hot too, 5'2" 109lbs.
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Well for starters I don't see how the clip is even remotely racist at all. Genocides happen all over the world and stupid people of all races think they can go over and talk nice to warlords and terrorists and get themselves fucked up in the process, in this film it happens to be a white woman, I don't see how that is racist. Two, I don't know whether or not Stallone was a draft dodger or not but I see no reason that he shouldn't be allowed to direct a violent war style movie, by your rational Clinton never should have been President, and never should have used our troops in any way reguardless of how justified. What seems to be pissing you off more than anything is the prayer bit right be for all the kick assery. In which case you're entitled to be intolerant of religion and that's fine, you have that right and I'm not going to stop you but your hatred of religion has no baring on the quality of the film. Plus the fact that one line of a character praying bares absolutly no relation to whether or not the movie will be good or not, nor does it have anything to do with the over all tone and scope of the film. It was used like most bits of lines in a trailer are used it fit the way it was cut, nothing more nothing less.
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Suck my balls, Proman.
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Never seen anything like that in a movie. Shot at point blank range with a .50 cal machine gun is as messy as I would have expected it to be. Looks like it has some Private Ryan gore and that may get me in the theater. Seems rather dark and brutal and that's how it should be.
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I'll be there opening day. It's good to see violence back in action movies. I hope you don't have to compromise any violence in order to release the movie.
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May 19, 2007 5:33:28 PM CDT
People like Proman need to keep watching Daddy Day Care
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... and shut the fuck up. Americans like to close their eyes and believe horrible stuff only happens when Americans do it. Racist? How so because the bad guys are not white? Shut the fuck up there are seriously nasty militia and military groups out there. Keep watching movies like Waitress if you hate this stuff so much don't go see it leave 300 and this for guys like us in this TB... ANYWAY that was amazing can this come out soon please summer movies are boring me already I want RAMBO. Thank you Stallone.
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...my dad and I are already stoked to see it. Old School 80's father son movie night!
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Hard R or NC17 makes little difference. You can cram a lot of bad things into a NC17. They touched on rape in that teaser for Gods sake. I'll be happy either way, and NC17 IS box office death.
Run it as as hard of an R as you can and release the "directors cut" DVD later.
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The flick looks nice and bloody. I'll check it out.
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First of all, I am not ticked of by the Prayer Segment becase I am anti-religion (and I am not Catholic). I just find it really irritating that Religion is used to justify killings, especially the fake cinematic ones). It's bad and I find it offensive enough to be worthy of being pointed out.
And of course it HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH TONE and SCOPE OF THE FILM. It's like the single longest part of this trailer and there is a closeup shot of a cross there.
Sick.
Second, if you honestly belive that the woman just happens to be a blond, then I believe you. Personally, I am not as ignorant as that. As others have already mentioned, the asians shown as wild and raping pigs only fuels streotypes. This characters are just cannon fodder, used for killings.
Think back to Rambo one, how many americans can you see Sly killing as violently as in this trailer? But if it's vietnamese, russians etc... it's ok, because not only should they be killed, the SHOULD BE OVERRKILLED BY TERING THEM TO PIECES AND (quite unrrealistically) having their heads torn off. ASIANS (insert any other race here) + OVERKILL = GENOCIDE.
I will never forgive Clinton for bombing the Balkans but man was he a good president in almost everything else.
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That was bloody. 80´s bloody. Bloody great.
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depending on film/material. Copland, Rocky, Rocky Balboa, First Blood and so far this seems true from the few scenes here. I'm a happy First Blood fan. Looks like a respectful follow-up to me. Hope it is. I'll be seeing it. Be great to see a midnight showing of it. I personally don't think all the "gore" is too much. Just me.
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If that's what it takes to prove I am a bigger man than you are so be it.
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Shit! That was the bloodiest trailer I've ever scene! Looks interesting. I hope there's a plot to go along with the body count. Oh, and nice to see Darla getting some work...
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Ugly and fanatical.
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Have you looked at the world lately, the world is full of people of every color being savage to each other, it's not racist, it's not a stereotype, it's fact. In Rambo 3 it was all abou the russian's killing the people in afghanistan, this time it's about genocide in Burma. Would it have been better if it was set in Darfur, there you have blacks killing blacks. Oh no, you only have a problem because it's a White American character killing non White American's, because only white american's can possibly be capable of any sort of racism. And comparing the violence quotent of First Blood to this is completely stupid, it was a different time and to get a major release you couldn't have it be as gorey, but he sure killed them hillbilly coppers didn't he. So to go through the whole series, part one hillbilly cops, part two vietnamese and russians, part three russians, part four Burmese, I don't see any racisim at all in it. Look if your offended by it fine, don't comment on it and don't watch it, you have the power to ignore the film in it's entirety, but nope, people like you can't just let go, you have to piss in everyone's cherrios, you have to put your two cents in when everyone is trying to enjoy something and just crap all over it with tired claims of racism. Just ignore it it will go away for you.
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Short both in prose and the size of his penis.
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I apologize ABking for my comments on the pics. This trailer reminds me of playing "Guns" in the back-yard when I was 9 yrs old. Thanks Sly...
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Holy shit! He should be banned from making war movies, as Polanski should be banned from working with kids! (well, at least that'd have spared us Oliver Crap).
And all these asian actors should be ashamed to act for a living! They should be banned from playing bad guys, if only a superior intelligence could chose for them. A big-ballsy one. -
RevSick, you fucking shallow pig. What's the matter my comments getting to ya? Good job completely missing my point, for it is not what I was talking about at all. Just because the world is full of hatred, overkill doesn't mean the movies should be just as bad.
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....art is also a relfection of the times and societies of the times. No a movie doesn't HAVE to be violent or gorey, but if they are, big deal, it's not for you don't watch it. But you can't just let it go and not watch it, you have to get pissed off about it and bitch about it being too violent for you, well it's not made for you, you are not it's target audience, Stallone doesn't have include you in his reindeer games, it's his film, he can make it as gorey as he wants. No one is forcing you to watch it. So just ignore it, there are lots of films that offend me on one level or another, guess what I'm either constructive about my criticisms or I just shut the fuck up and ignore it. Like I do with 99% of the tripe that comes out of Hollywood.
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Come on, now you just regressing into a very childish argument. If you honestly believe that Rocky 4 is art than I feel sorry for you.
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Come on, now you just regressing into a very childish argument. If you honestly believe that Rocky 4 is art than I feel sorry for you.
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...is that you throw 'isms around like their frisbees. If you don't like a film and it has people of color in it it's racisist, if it's women it's sexist, it doesn't matter whether it is or isn't and you could give a fuck about context, you don't like it and you throw out the strongest of negative categorizations at it, claiming it only perpetuates stereotypes, you know who perpetrates stereotypes, everyone does. Everyone is a stereotype of some sort, hell I'm a stereotypical dork, I got my lightsaber I'm not ashamed of it, I'm also a stereotypical dude when it comes to movies and music, I like gore, I like titties, and I like death metal, big whoopty do. But when a movies comes out that makes fun of dorky dudes, you're not going to see me crying about it, and I'm going to get just as pissed at someone who does cause it's not like we're talking captive audiences here we're talking movies, where you have a choice whether or not to view it. In three minutes you decided you weren't going to like this movie, and that you disagree with it's content, fine don't watch it, Stallone isn't going to show up at your house and make you watch it. But you're compelled to just throw labels around because you feel left out, this offends you and everyone likes it, so we're the ignorant ones, cause we aren't enlightened like you, we snicker at bad stereotypes and when heads explode on film, maybe it's because we can seperate fantasy from fact and feel there are more important things in the real world to be outraged at rather than entertainment.
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I nearly died reading that the director of TORQUE is directing the sci-fi legendary novel NEUROMANCER. Fucking Torque?! TORQUE!!! FUCK!!!!!!!!!!! Hollywood = SHIT. At least Rambo rules, but I'm still pissed (not at you Sly, you rule.)
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Yeah, he's killing Asians because the films main conflict is set in fucking BURMA....What do you want? Fucking Al Quiada on a fucking holiday run into Rambo and the killing starts? Rambo busting the heads of merchant bankers in downtown LA?
As for your Asian guy getting killed by Rambo fans - Do shut the fuck up, please! Film makers cannot account for every inbred yahoo who decides to copy what he saw on the "purdy movin picktoors". And Asian men presented unrealistically - JOIN THE FUCKING QUE!!!!! Point me to any ethnic or social group and show me their accurate and sensitive portrayal in western cinema. I dont think you fucking can. At the end of the day, if you make a World War 2 flick for a western audience, I doubt you'll portray Nazi's as the loveable, kindly liberators, who just want us all to be the same, and set about it by liberating millions of Jews of their lives. That ain't gonna happen.
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Really? Is that relevant to anything? Is that supposed to be an insult? Recourse of a weak/witless mind. You're come across like one of those freaks who picketed LToC. You're point is made clearly, yet in an ugly and fanatical fashion i.e. crazed. Why are you here?
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what is art to you is not art to someone else. Art is when you create something that is of your own vision, that you created. And throwing the whole killing something as art argument in there is ignorant and is exactly the argument people who want to censor art make everything they try. I can't stand most modern art, that's fine you won't see me checking out Jackson Pollock anytime soon, but you know what alot of people like his stuff, that's fine, I don't get it and that's fine, I don't have to go to a museum when his stuff is displayed. I also don't stand out side of said museum and yell and scream about how I think he's crap to people who are going to the show. I also don't go into a forum of Jackson Pollock fans and bash them for it as a bunch of ignoramuses.
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This trailer played like a slasher flick, only the slasher was a good guy. I got goosebumps when Rambo first popped up behind that burmese soldier. I don't know if I am stupider for having watched and enjoyed that trailer and each creative kill, but I know it looked like purified essence of 80's kickassery. How about another Rocky sequel where Rocky's son, having quit his job, rekindles his love for boxing? Call it Robert Balboa and you're all set.
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I am about as liberal as they come. I consider "A Clockwork Orange" and "Reservoir Dogs" as my favorite movies. I enjoy movies by Takashii Mike, am not easily offended.
However, I am not a hypocrat. With me you, you get exactly what you see.
You strike me as overtly defensive and childish. Is STILL don't think you understood any of my arguments. I am not against violence in movies, I am just smaert enough to understand exactly what the filmmaker is doing and what kind of audience he is going for.
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This is the balls-to-the-wall coda to a violent man trying to live a life of peace but doing what he does best.
The point isn't glorifying violence, the point is doing whatever it takes to survive. He uses arrows to kill fish for food. And he uses any other method at hand to kill Man for, well, apparent impudence.
This is the avenging angel of Death. He doesn't particularly like his work, but there's nobody else like him, and when invoked, watch-out.
I love the addition of a grounded center. That gives the clip some much-needed context.
I was a doubter. Now I am a believer. Welcome back, John Rambo.
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another proof this movie will rock!!!
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In the extras on the _Patton_ DVD, Zanuck talks about how, when times get tough, and the odds seem impossible, Patton was the kind of guy you needed to lead the charge. Rambo is sort of like that - albeit fiction. When reason and diplomacy fail, and violence is all that is left to settle an issue, you want to do it in a way that makes it very clear that you mean business. That is, to inflict to most amount of damage on your ememy as quickly as possible, and to establish a dominate position in order to fend off any possible counter-attack. As Patton used to say: A good plan executed violently, is better than a perfect plan executed late. I wonder if Stallone watched _Patton_ to get a few ideas for this film?
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I send you a kiddie "Suck my balls" and you wish my mom was raped. You just proved you were the biggest motherfucker on this website. Wishing such things, you should be banned. Congrats anyway, asshole.
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...just sick of people telling everyone within earshot how offended they are about things they do not have to watch, do not have to listen to, do not have to play, that are clearly labeled and they are not tricked into participating in. The trailer tells you you will not like this movie, you did not need to go in to the talkbalk yelling about how Stallone won't see one dime from you, and how racist it is and all of that, all you had to do was go "huh, don't like it" and never watch it again and don't see the movie, but you had to validate yourself, you couldn't just leave it alone and that is what pisses me off.
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RevSick, Spare us both the thoughts of what I should or shouldn't do. Believe me you do NOT want to get into this argument with me.
It not about Stallone not seeing my money, apart from my 2 cents (I know, I know) its about my CONSTRACTIVE CRITICISM,
Oh I am sure that in the movie, Stallone will find a way to justify the killings (i.e. the burmese are a urderous bustards who raped that woman and killed her father) and it would make the movie even more offensive. -
Sly revolutionised action with his first Rambo, now his going to do it again with his last.
we are gonna see scenes in this movie that have never been done before...
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THIS IS WHAT RAMBO IS AND NEEDS TO BE!! MY 57 YEAR OLD FATHER JUST WATCHED IT AND LOVED IT AS WELL!!
ENOUGH OF THESE PG-13 ACTION FILMS!!
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So how the fuck will they sell it to the non-Internet-trailer-viewing audience???
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and HGH . . . dude looks swoll!
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That's right Proman, remember it's only a movie, and that in reality, Stallone gives all this colored guys BIG MONEY to star in his movie, what would you prefer, that Stallone only employs whites ? Then you would be accusing him of the same thing, you moronic, "my keyboard is all my life" cunt. You should be jailed for exposing such defamatory talk on this site.
Unlike morons like you, people like Clint Eastwood and Stallone DO respect the "not white" people by giving them WORK. -
Even if the film will not be great ( I expect it to be awesome) this trailer has already awakened that 80's feeling inside of me and it has shown me that there is still somebody lovin' the good old handmade action !!!!
Thanks Sly !!!!!
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I don't think Stallone does it for the spectacular aspect (alright... maybe a little). In Rocky Balboa he decided to shoot the final fight and make it as realistic as possible. It's probably the same approach here.
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...calling something racisit and offensive is not constructive it's labeling. Constructive criticism is making suggestions to help the quality of a product/project, i.e. suggesting the use of the original score, keeping to his guns and not shying away due to ratings concerns, things of that nature, just calling it offensive and racisist is the furthest thing from constructive criticism. The point is, there was no need for it, you already knew you weren't going to like it after watching the trailer, so leave it at that, there's alot of stuff on this site for you to check out without flaming a bunch of ignorant rants on how offensive and racist you think it is, then getting pissed off when people call you stupid for it in a forum full of people talking about how great the movie looks. Once again, if you don't like it, it's just a movie, you don't have to watch it. And with that I'm off to dinner.
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Yeah, heard that Sly is willing to direct that movie, providing they loose the daughter and the annoying sidekick and get Bonnie Bedelia, Samuel Jackson, and Hans Gruber twin brother back ! (because the Grubers were 3 ! Two twins + the elder brother one !)
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At last somebody realises what will sell. After Stallone and Arnie both decided to sell out and release action films light Stallone has gone back to what made the genre popular.Real hardcore violence not watered down rubbish. Rambo 3 pushed the envelope ages ago and now this looks to push it further. I really hope it shows what made him the man he is by really showing the true horror of what is happening in warzones with torture and rape and then it will stop these liberals from attacking our boys. Good on Stallone rescued the Rocky franchise and hopefully will start another long franchise with this and many sequels
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I'm sold
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You think Stallone pays them big money? This isn't even a studio picture, it doesn't even have a distibutor yet (and judging by the trailer won't be getting one soon).
How dare you compare Letters From Iwo Jima to this crap? But wait, what am I saying you. You people think Rocky IV is art. Art! You are hopeless.
You should be jailed for being a fucking doochebug.
Now turn around because, RevSick would like to make a deposit off DNA into your butt account.
You fucking child.
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Next, Sly should tackleEdgar Alan Poe (his dream project rumored in prep) Cobra 2, Nighthawks 2, and Fist II ! BRING THEM ON SLY !
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Thats so much for this sneak peak.
Yes it's a guilty pleasure, but after I saw First Blood on VHS I saw the other 2 in the theater opening night. I just love the dead plain "truth" of Rambo -- if you just *know* something is wrong, fuck everyone up. In today's castrated America Rambo is a welcomed relief, if even in movie form.
I'm really happy for Stallone. Rocky Balboa was brilliant when everyone said he couldn't pull it off. I have the same hopes for John Rambo.
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Another Rambo? Well, here are my thoughts. The original movies, First Blood, Rambo, ect. were pretty good in their day. Well cemented in pop culture lore and definitely good popcorn movies. But I hesitate seeing another Rambo movie today unless it is handled the right way. Sly's last movie like this Rocky Balboa was, I'm sorry, not that great. And I'll be the first to say that I lined up to see it! When old franchises are added to after such a long leave, they can seem a little forced and past their prime. I'm very nervous about the next Indiana Jones movie along these lines. Back when Harrison, or Sly for that matter, were in their 30's, it was believable that they would be fighting injustice, running, and kicking ass. But in their 50's or 60's? I just don't know. If another Rambo movie is to work it needs to have a very good story that has been well thought through. Anything else will fail. So I'm not saying don't make this movie, but I am saying take your time with it. Give it a kick-ass plot, a good score, good effects and stunts, and for God sake don't have Sly doing something too over the top physically. While the original Rambo movies were a stretch with John Rambo's physical abilities, acting as if he's exactly the same after about 20 years is just going to look laughable.
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Another Rambo? Well, here are my thoughts. The original movies, First Blood, Rambo, ect. were pretty good in their day. Well cemented in pop culture lore and definitely good popcorn movies. But I hesitate seeing another Rambo movie today unless it is handled the right way. Sly's last movie like this Rocky Balboa was, I'm sorry, not that great. And I'll be the first to say that I lined up to see it! When old franchises are added to after such a long leave, they can seem a little forced and past their prime. I'm very nervous about the next Indiana Jones movie along these lines. Back when Harrison, or Sly for that matter, were in their 30's, it was believable that they would be fighting injustice, running, and kicking ass. But in their 50's or 60's? I just don't know. If another Rambo movie is to work it needs to have a very good story that has been well thought through. Anything else will fail. So I'm not saying don't make this movie, but I am saying take your time with it. Give it a kick-ass plot, a good score, good effects and stunts, and for God sake don't have Sly doing something too over the top physically. While the original Rambo movies were a stretch with John Rambo's physical abilities, acting as if he's exactly the same after about 20 years is just going to look laughable.
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Heard Sly is writing a new Cobra movie where Marion Cobretti must fight a guy who accuses him of being racist.
The guy happens to be actually a sex-change, and Marion Cobretti ends up with the whole gay rights league hounding him, trying to get him killed, paying killers big bucks because he is disparaging to sex-changes.
The gay rights league feel they are right, after all, Cobretti is white, and there's no harm in killing white people.
In one future classic scene, Cobra shaves and wears a tutu to go undercover. That scene is decried by the real life gay rights league, saying it's defamatory to both tutu dancers and transvestites.
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and certainly not constructive. Not to mention wishing someone else's mothers rape. That's just lame, and if Our Man Sly reads this talkback, it will only remind him how some haters of that ilk turned their coats with BALBOA. And help it become a sleeper hit. Now Sly, I wish you're cooking up some "all audience" trailer full of John J's introspection, and some Julie Benz too. That way, the non-AICN people will praise you even more once they'll get eventually asskicked (and totally by surprise!) by the outrageous violence of the movie. I'm sure a few of them (name: Variety, or Premiere) will come up with some epithets like "edgy". The same people who spat on First Blood. Way to go Sly!
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Return of the real action movie.
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great preview. the reason why this looks great and why lf or dh looks like shit is not just the rating (altho the buckets of blood is awesome) its that the violence pertains to the story in rambo. its hard to explain but i can imagine the script writing for dh4... "ok and now mclane will blow up two cars and they'll zoom within 6 inches of his face but its ok we got blue screen for that. and then mclane says 'yippie doo i killed you!' " this rambo reminds me a helluva lot like the end beach scene in commando. gratuitous violence and one badd mofo! great job and not a flying taxi explodiong into a helicopter to be seen
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I haven't reacted like that to a "trailer" since... well I don't think I ever have. It was kind like "HOLY SHIT!", hands clasped over my mouth, nervous laughter. That footage also explains in a nutshell why I never joined the Peace Corps.
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That looks fucking awesome
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I actually laughed when this got brought up during Sly's original q and a, as i had been thinking of it for a while to resounding ridicule, but after seeing this and what he is capable of at his age...Dear Warners, I know that you want to keep the Batman live action continuity centered on Bale, but if you look at Smallville and Superman Returns, you will see the following idea could be huge.
The Dark Knight Returns
Bruce Wayne/Batman: Sly, playing his age
Joker: Willem Dafoe (I know about the goblin, but this is a chance to USE his face)
Gordon: Tom Skerrit
Carrie: Hatden Panittiere
Alfred: Peter O'Toole
Superman: Patrick Warburton
Selina: Adrienne Barbeau
So...I'm sure I'll get endless amounts of crap for this, but done as a three part mini series for cable, or even on CW, this could be brilliant. Sly is showing he can master that sense of being aged and emotionally beaten up, but having the desire and passion to accomplish anything with both Rocky Balboa and this, give him a role where miller uses these attributes perfectly, and for Christ's sake, include Miller as much as possible.
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I'm there friday.Wait, make that thursday, midnight. Sly,you're 2 for 2 in the comeback...excellent.
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Yes, Ikknow her name is HaYden. My applogoies to the lovely miss Panatierre
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Sly/Rambo is back with a motherfucking vengence.
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I think this looks extremely good -looks like it puts the "action" back into "action adventure". Please tell me there's at least one Burmese Tiger Pit. You can never have enough sharpened bamboo when facing overwhelming odds...
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Just the other day, I was watching Commando and bitching to my best friend how they don't make them like this anymore. Obviously, I was wrong. Now, I'm sad that once Stallone leaves this game, no one (except perhaps Michael Bay) will ever get 80's R-rated action right. In the meantime, there are two good reason to cherish 2008. 1- Indiana Jones 2- John Rambo.
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I was really rooting for this film, up until I saw this bit of footage. Maybe it's just me, but I almost outright laughed when he lopped the first guy's head off, and couldn't help but chuckle as the violence swelled to ridiculously silly levels.
Just because there's a lot of blood and guts doesn't mean it's gritty and dirty. The blood and guts in this is so over-the-top it's laughable. And to make it worse, it appears we're getting the same old 'mission down the river to rescue hostages played by forgettable actors' plot. I suppose Stallone is trying to emulate the Rambo films from the eighties, give us more of the same silly stuff we adored when we were 12 years old, but come on - was I the only one expecting something harder and darker than this?
I was hoping this film would be a fitting ending to one of Hollywood's most iconic characters. I guess it is, in a way. Judging by the talkback reactions, the John Rambo of First Blood (and his message) seems to have been forgotten.
Sylvester Stallone has always been one of my favorite actors, and a real hero. Forgive me for having expected to be shocked by the brutality, the horror, the realisim. Forgive me for having seen more potential in the material than apparently everyone else in this Talkback. Forgive me for having expected (gasp!) a thinking man's John Rambo. To be honest, I thought this would be Stallone's 'Unforgiven'. I suppose that's my problem, though, and I'll just have to settle for an adult's Road Runner cartoon instead. -
This trailer was AWESOME!
At the beginning, the soundtrack was good, but the second score (at the end of the trailer) was terrible. Change that. Make it more orchestral.
The brutality, gore and action is awesome. Like you said before: It will be a OLD SCHOOL ACTON MOVIE.
And you did it! There are no movies like that anymore (in Hollywood).
Now, JOHN RAMBO is back and it looks AWESOME.
Like I said:
You need an awesome soundtrack!
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You need some cool scenes, that everyone will remember. Like the stick-fight in RAMBO III! In that scene, you showed, how COOL and strong JOHN RAMBO was. He is like a.... perfect solider. A SAD but perfect solider!
Show some of this stuff in RAMBO 3. He is the perfect killing-machine!
We need cool and memorable scenes!
The mud-scene in Rambo 2 (Rambo was complete tarned in a mud-wall). AWESOME!
And when you do some cool action-scene, you HAVE to put in the old Rambo-theme!! Dat dat daaaaa daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, dat dat daaaa, dadaaaaaaaaaaa1
AWESOME!!
And one more thing:
Don't forget your cool knife and your arrows!! More scenes with your knife and your amazing bow!
Do it, Sly, DO IT!
Like the trailer! It was awesome!
We are one of the biggest STALLONE-Communities in the world.
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Saw this trailer so many times today and it needs the following;
1. Goldsmith's theme (especially R2 attack on the camp in the helicopter)
2. Rambo without the shirt.
3. Rambo doing (part 1 was psycological torture, 2 was physical torture, 3 was emotional torture on him) torture upon another.
4. Rambo's knife
5. Red headband
6. His nemesis
7. His roar whe he takes it to another level.
8. Part 1 had rats, part 2 had leeches, part 3 had horses. Which animal will feature in part 4?
9. The significance of the gold cross and Rambo's role as the angel of death.
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We need to see John Rambo with a muscle-shirt, or something like that. And your red-bandana.
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a WILHELM SCREAM! In all honesty though it looks fantastic. You're making a hell of a comeback.
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Won't beat First Blood, but it looks like it'll be worth the price of a ticket.
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Did I just see John Rambo rip out a guy's throat with his bare hands? Looks like an 80's action movie! I wasn't going to see this, but I will now. My one complaint: The trailer basically showed the entire plot of the film. My favourite line: "When you're pushed, killing's as easy as breathing." Nice job. I hope it's as successful (or moreso) as Rocky Balboa.
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Damn it looks like Stallone is on a roll now, this is looking like a classic Rambo movie! I loved the new-rocky balboa and now I cant wait for this new Rambo..Awesome!!! Stallone should do another Cobra movie..and bring back the 50 Mercury!! this makes me want to watch rambo 2 and 3 again.
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Don't forget you typical scream!
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
That's so cool!
It made you a legend!
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Sly, that COMPLETELY WAS INCREDIBLE. Nice to see that there is still one guy out there who keeps it old skool and does not try and update for the MTV generation. This is how a real action movie should be done.
P.S. Sly, you may not remember. But I was at the Rocky Balboa Premiere in London and you waved at me when I waved my Rambo toy at you. One of the greatest moments in my life.
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I'm in.
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That trailer was the cat's ass. Thanks for appreciating us here as much as we appreicate you
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Thank you Sly! You aren't trying to appease the 13-16 years olds but the fans who grew up in the 80's!!!
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I am so happy that there so many people out there who are also fed up with all the MTV-generation Bull$hit the cinemas across the world are flooded by. F*cking SW-Prequel-loving generation.
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I can't help but think of Garth Ennis's Punisher. An older, Vietnam hardened killer. I love it... I have been waiting for a good hardcore action flick. Seems like hollywood has been so afraid to put out anything with any harsh realism. I really hope they keep everything in it, and the studio doesn't pussy out and cut everything and make it a PG-13, so the dumb white trash morons can bring their kids to it, and then blame it for anything wrong they do in their life.
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Poor, poor Bruce. Seems that all the cgi and flashy effects can't beat the nitty gritty 80's action that Rambo has shown us.
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II was a little young to watch the original Rambo flicks when they first came out so I got round to it in the 90's and was instantly in love with 'em. This one keeps that trend nicely flowing.
The action shown in the clip is OTT and thats exactly how it should be, in fact, BLOW SOME MORE SHIT UP! The more BOOMS the better, its Rambo, it fits.
It also looks like JOhn Rambo will be more talkative in this one, nice.I hope they don't over do the clichéd one-liners though.
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Show your strong arms in the movie, sly. If you do not want to show your whole body, show your strong ARMS!!!! Usa a muscle shirt in the movie!
PLEASE!
And show us an evil nemesis. Like in a videogame, THE ENDBOSS!!!
An evil nemesis. An endboss we hate!
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That looks awesome. Now I'm going to watch it again.
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Man Look
Stallone has returned. At long last. Rocky was stage 1.
I have nly one word to say
STALLONE
STALLONE
STALLONE
STALLONE
STALLONE
STALLONE
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I literally screamed and jumped in my seat like a little girl when Sly chopy-chops the head, then the guy in the jeap, then the throat - holy shit! No way the official trailer can show this much coolness - so thank you Sly and AICN!
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You can call it pretentious shit if you want, but I think people haven't given Stallone the credit as an actor and writer that he is due. It's easy to say he's just some oily, muscle-bound oaf who makes fims with explosions in them. It's particularly easy if you're 12 years old (or if you haven't grown up). But haven't you seen Copland? Do you remember the original Rocky, how Ebert compared him to Marlon Brando? Did you watch First Blood, I mean sit down and really watch it start to finish? With John Rambo, I thought that Stallone had a real opportunity to give us a kick-ass action flick and maybe hide a little extra in there, too. Eastwood showed that you could make a kick-ass western (well, ANTI-western if you want to be technical) and still hide a little something extra in there, too. I'll leave it up to you to interpret what that something extra was, but it added layers and dimensions to the characters that enhanced the flavor of the film, and gave us a new spin on the genre in general. With this film, Stallone seems to have recycled the same cliches we have seen time and again in the eighties, and mistaken a higher volume of blood and guts for giving us an adult's Rambo. Regardless of whether or not you like the John Rambo of First Blood, or the John Rambo of Rambo 2 and 3 (who seem to be completely different characters), I was simply expecting something far more interesting than what this film looks like. I'm sure Stallone will deliver a great action film in the grand tradition, but I can't help but be disappointed.
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What a huge miscalculation Fox made with Live Free or Die Hard, because this footage owns it. There is no toned down PG-13 crap here, this is no holds barred, like First Blood and the original Die Hard. What's more is, this looks epic, it feels epic. It's dark, real and gritty- not slick or overblown like Live Free or Die Hard. I like Rambo, but I love Die Hard and seeing this footage makes me want to cry out of sadness for what Fox is doing to us, but scream out in joy for what Stallone has brought back in JOHN RAMBO! The old-school action movie is back. Goodbye Die Hard, hello Rambo.
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The new film looks exciting and well crafted, but I can't help but wish the plot was more of an arc and character closure for Rambo. For example, imagine Rambo is asked to go to a small town in the rural south where another soldier, perhaps a recently released enhanced soldier, has reacted just as Rambo did in the first film. Rambo would find himself in the roll of the col. from the first film facing a rogue discarded soldier much like his younger self. The decisions and character choices as he reaches out to a younger, violent version of himself would be heart-breaking and exciting, especially if he found himself forced to take out the soldier, metaphorically either killing or rescuing his own inner self in the process. Or, if the rogue soldier carries new bio-enhancements, Rambo might find himself fighting to protect the soldier from the darpa researchers who wish to keep the project / covert operations hush hush. What I am getting at, is we've seen Rambo evolve into this archtype hero, but I'd like to see him evolve with an arc that brings together his whole heroic journey throughout the films.
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Bourne what? Die who? There is only one action hero....that is STALLONE, STALLONE, STALLONE.
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...not a gorehound freak. Sly Stallone has decided to out-Mel Mel by creating his very own Christianist torture porn. I know Sly is born again and all, but does he have to foist his hyperviolent religion on the rest of us?
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that Harry will give John Rambo an amazing review no matter how shitty it turns out to be? I'd like to put $100 down on it right now.
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You gotta include it. Rambo lore insists that, preferably with a 300lb Soviet, Johnboy has at it with some huge freak of nature.
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I just got interested in this movie.
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I loved the psycho drum music while Rambo was going to town. The initial decapitation was perfection.
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This is going to be fucking awesome. Any doubt I ever had about a fourth Rambo was washed away when I saw Rocky Balboa, but now I am 100% sold on this being awesome! Way to go Stallone, thanks for coming back!
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I'll be there opening day. Any chance of Stallone making Ray Tango & Gabriel Cash next or Marion Cobretti?
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The ony way those pussies at Fox are gonna make any money.
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May 19, 2007 8:42:41 PM CDT
Rambo was plenty violent in the original First Blood.
by excaliburffolkes
He shot or killed everyone in the police force and blew up/shot up sizable chunks of the town (a gas station, a hunting store, the police station). Other than the typical uping of body counts and explosions that occur in all movie sequels, Rambo is exactly the same in all the films. He always starts out minding his own business, gets sucked into a bad situation, and when finally pushed too far, ends things on his own violent terms.
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Has anybody cauught a view of Rambo's scar down his cheek?
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That was awesome! Finally a proper action flick AND an action hero again. I was getting tired of these pretty boy, wire-fu wussies. The composer of this new Rambo movie has got to respect the Jerry Goldsmith score. I will be seeing this in the cinema...
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I think it would be the coolest thing ever if Rambo DIES!!! When ever do you see in a mainstream hollywood summer blockbuster.. the main character die!
Talk about making a movie have an edge...
Talk about thinking about the story arch more then just a typical hollywood ending.
This is WAR!
I'd think it would be as cool as Rocky losing in Rocky Balboa.
Sly show an edge !!!!!
Just imagine the buzz, when it opens and a few let it out, he dies!! People will have to see how he does it. (( If your reading this you dont have to HINT here if you write on Aint It Cool, but just keep it in the back of your mind and kill Rambo Off!))
Clearly Sly has a amazing eye as a director! WOW!! I love the edge in this film... it looks like if QT made it! It is gritty and just raw! I love the chase in the woods, the dogs chasing, the camera work and editing, just the rawness.. this isnt 1985 with Rambo 2 anymore!!!!!!!!
Great first look!
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Craig Zablo over at STALLONEZONE.
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I recently read an article in some garbage magazine where, apparently with a straight face, Tobey Maguire and Orlando Bloom were described as "action heroes". They are not action heroes. They are soy-drinking milquetoasts who are pulled around on wires and "fight" non-existent CGI enemies. JOHN RAMBO IS A FRIGGIN' ACTION HERO. I haven't seen a trailer like this in a LONG time. Every studio has turned everything into PG-13 and CGIed the hell out of everything for so long now, that you forget what real action looks like. Here's hoping JOHN RAMBO is the wake-up call that the dormant action genre needs.
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I have visited Burma three times, and have many friends there. Some of these friends are from the repressed Karen group, whilst others are former members of the military. They are all human beings, who have suffered. In fact, one of my friends is a retired officer, who had his foot blown off by a mine. THIS IS REAL LIFE PEOPLE!!! I'm sorry, but as much as a despise the Myanmar junta, I cannot stand to see this type of dehumanising, orgiastic machismo on show in this new Rambo movie. It degrades the Burmese and the nature of the political situation.
For REAL Burma you can see my photography at: http://themystictraveller.com/Myanmar/index.html
and www.mysticmyanmar.blogspot.com
I loved the first two Rambo movies, but this seems morally dubious on so many levels.
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That's what this film needs based on this eat-your-heart for breakfast lovefest of action and vengeance. Stallone officially rules again with this. Now, go make LEGEND OF THE DUELIST and truly make me happy.
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I hope so because that pearl of the cobra or asscheek of the samaritan or whatwever it was called was a shit title.
Keep it simple...John Rambo...that's all that's needed. Hell, just "Rambo" would get butts in the seat.
As for the footage...this should be the official trailer...yeah, so it won't get past the censors like that, but at least make it an internet trailer.
As for the whole religious thing, well I'm a Catholic and even I get sick of the overly Christian messages that overwhelm some movies.
I'm actually kinda torn about this film...one the one hand, Rambo can be a great character at times and I'd like to see how his character has developed over the years...but on the other hand, and I don't normally say this...I want blood, guts knives and arrows, screw the plot...I feel ashamed for saying that because I normally hate action movies with no substance behind the mayhem.
Mr. Stallone, if you're out there, all I can say is that you seem to have the action part down...so if you can balance that out with an engaging plot and characters who aren't any more than one-dimensional plot devices, then I think you will not only have a great Rambo movie on your hands, but a great movie in general.
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Please to the powers that be. Hire Rodriguez to make a Machete and Rambo movie. Have it be Machete is hired to kill Rambo only to realize Rambo does not kill easy. They fight become allies to take on Capitol Hill killing a bunch of pansy politicians. End it with a cameo by El Mariachi. Leading to the sequel. Rambo Machete and Mariachi. BOX OFFICE BABY BOX OFFICE!
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The generic rock ain't working. The icing on this cake is that blistering score from Rambo II.
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Maybe it would havie increased box office. Anyway i think QT and RR can never match Stallone in filmaking. Satllone does ORIGIN and those two do CLONING!!!!!!
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Or perhaps "Ray Tango." He's set up for life.
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Anyone remember Gremlins (can't remember if it was the first or second one) when Gizmo went all Rambo on the gremlins? That was fucking hilarious (I was like 10 or something), in fact I'd rate it as being a better parody of Rambo than Hot Shots was.
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As gory and gruesome as this stuff looks, its about on par with the recent "hard R" stuff in Saw & Hostel. Stallone should fight for this movie to stay R. Literally. I don't care if he has to whup some studio ass either. Not to sound like some lame fanboy, but THIS is how you do an action movie. Don't sanitize the gore if it's central to the plot, especially a war combat movie. The problem here is that Stallone's gonna have to fight TWICE AS HARD because only the likes of Spielberg or Gibson can successfully defy the censors without bending over and taking a love sausage up the chunnel. Frankly, as long Stallone doesn't sequels to "Oscar" or "Don't Stop or My Mom Will Shoot" he's welcome to my movie dollar. Good to have ya' back Sly. =)
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Hey Sly, if your reading this, then kudos. Kick ass trailer! The only thing I would change is by adding some of the classic John Rambo music in there. I think you could put in the instramental version of "It's a long road" in there. I think that's what the song is called. Great trailer Sly! I want more!
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2nd Gremlins movie (god I love that shit.)
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... is the score from George Romero's LAND OF THE DEAD. It especially plays during the end credits. Didn't anyone notice?
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Look Proman shut ur face dog.
If you want to insult sly then insult mclane, snake plissken, Terminator.
A movies a movie dog. And no one rolls like John Rambo. Show me a better promo reel than the one we're discussing in this board that has come out in the last 3 yrs for an 'action movie' and then we might have a chat.
Besides if u have a point to make why make it so rudely?
ahhh......... now that I have gotten that off my chest
STALLONE STALLONE STALLONE STALLONE STALLONE -
that you can only have twenty years later. He did right by Rocky and this looks pretty rad, too.
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still filming the flick obviously. not like they're taking a musician to score that thing on set. that'd be one tired bastard. =P
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The action and style look pretty good, but the story looks like it's little more than an elaborate dig at liberal pussies who think you can talk the world's problem to death (you need guns) and need John NRA Rambo to come a-slaughtering to save them. I really hope the movie has more to offer than that.... First Blood was a great story, without the great story, Rambo might as well be any misc Dolph Lundgren action hero.
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Why would that lady go into a war zone with her unarmed buddies? The gore looked great - but if the reason behind Rambo going in there in the first place to rescue those people was bogus, then the whole film will be weak.
Better be damned sure that this plot element is not only feasible, but inherently believable or the critics will slice this to bits and call it a pointless gore-fest.
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A feeling I have. The guy says a prayer to him before the slaughter. He'll probably sacrifice himself for the girl to escape.
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Everyone should be over at www.ibelieveinharverydenttoo.com helping to get the image revealed. C'mon everyone! It will be ever so lovely. Cat fuckers.
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To be honest, I thought it was completely ridiculous at first. Then I realized, THIS MOVIE IS FUCKING RAMBO!! Then I went with it, and loved it. I just hope that that there isn't a 1 1/2 hour setup then a 15 minute action scene where he kills people. That would be awful. When it comes to the preview itself, the music needs work, and I thought "Attacking the Theatres" was extremely cheesy.
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And it had me laughing with glee! I'm looking forward to the entire thing. I hope you retain the latitude to continue your film exactly in the spirit of this sample. Interesting to see the White Shadow again. Last time I remember him in anything was the Thorn Birds... I wasn't a Rambo fanatic when the first three came out (although I did enjoy First Blood), but I'm really looking forward to this one! Could be two home runs in a row. Thank you, Sly!
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Rambo is a badass, always has been...giggled like a little kid when he wasted the dude in the jeep at point blank range. Sly, you and this movie will rule.
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Yup, R-rated for sure. I'm actually in for seeing this.
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I mean, there's so much carnage in this clip, I'm beginning to wonder if it gave away every gruesome kills and action pieces. I sure hope the film won't limit to 20 last minutes of action.
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It's nice to see the fears of a waterdown Rambo go out the window. Good action and enough good footage to get me wanting more.
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bringing back an aging Rambo during a war that's not only raging as we speak but involves more aging soldiers than any US war in recent memory...?
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May 19, 2007 9:47:06 PM CDT
Kraaken, I think the lady and others are missionaries.
by excaliburffolkes
They are probably going in on some sort of humanitarian mission, and naively think, "Why would anyone harm us when we are just trying to help unfortunate war victims?" In fact, they probably think that going into a war zone unarmed is safer than bringing weapons.
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No, most things from Apple are brilliant, except for the iPod shuffle that is. And if you want your Quicktime video to play full screen just save the file and open it in the QT player and hit full screen. By the way, if Apple sucks so much, how come everyone uses Quicktime for their HD trailers? I'm hearing a chirping from Windows Media Player's side of the room.
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That footage really took me by surprise - I'll be there at the cinema to check it out though.
One thing that strikes me as interesting is that the target demo seems to be those of us who actually grew up with First Blood/Rambo films, rather than the "let's get the kids to check this out" vibe. Brave, certainly, but it makes a great deal of sense from a commercial standpoint.
If you look at "what the kids are watching" these days at the movies, I think it's pretty clear that the whole Rambo character is going to be way more appealing to those of us with some historical emotional investment in the films rather than some 14 year old with ticket money burning hole in their pocket.
And I for one am looking forward to seeing a brutal action movie in the cinema without all the talking kids being jerks. Ah, just like old times!
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Stallone reminded me of a busted George C. Scott from Firestarter. I started to think how stupid could they get...then I saw Rambo take a clown's head off like he was popping open a cold beer and proceed to gibbify the driver. SOLD!!!!
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Goddamn that was intense. I just hope we get a good story to back up all that carnage.
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...I am though. Looks like my faith has finally been rewarded. And what a relief to see a real take no shit, pull no punches action film again, rather than all these watered down, cgi laden, pg13 so called actioners. Can't wait.I'm sure that it'll take some criticism for being an action movie throwback or a filmic dinosaur, but that's exactly what Rambo is, and should be, so I'm glad to see that Stallone understood that and wasn't convinced by anybody to 'slick it up' or modernise it. Good stuff.
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I watched it with the sound off first of all, cause my young nephew was in the room, so I didn't want to offend the little ones ears. SO THIS IS PURELY A VISUAL CRITICISM...everything up to the part that Rambo starts kicking ass, lacks a certain cinematic style. I don't know if that is good or bad, but, it feels more like a Student film with some good explosions...I could see it working overall,if it is supposed to look gritty and unfinished...cause that's kinda' how it looks. I LOVE all the kick ASSERY, and the blowing up body parts...cool shit...I LOVE when he slowly rises up behind the guy who is about to not have a nice day. I think I like that overall it feels like it is one guy raising hell in a place where the odds are against him. Some things that stick out, that kind of give me the uncomfortable feeling, is the rough shots of him shooting an arrow, just kind of out of the blue. I think more than anything I am not a big fan of HOW it was filmed..but I definately feel the bite of this movie as opposed to the other sequels. And I know this is all rough footage, so I'll give it that. I would like to thank Mr Stallone for actually taking the time to do this, and actually read these,that just is amazing. I applaud you for taking your art and putting it in it's roughest form for all of us to see, and then listen to our feedback as well. I hope it all leads to a better end result for you.
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Now this I can look forward to. I was looking forward to Die Hard 4,.....but well,,, since they turned that into a fucking teen flick, not anymore. I see some of these pansy assed cunts on here complaining about how "violent" it looks. FUCK THEM!!!.......They can check out Die Hard For Pussies,,,, with all the balls, blood, gore and cussing cut right the fuck out. I am truly looking forward to John Rambo..............the return to the "adult" R-rated action genre.
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I hope theyre able to keep this movie as bloody as shown in this 3 min preview. It adds to the realism of the movie, too many action movies wont show you what really happens when a person is hit with large caliber guns like that-except maybe saving private ryan. I dont agree with killing rambo in the end--I think too many movies take the cheap way out and kill the heroes, ive hated that for a really long time now and im tired of seeing it. His fight must go on as Rambo, even if we dont get to see more sequels. And hopefully hell hook up with a hot chick like the one in rambo 2 .
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What do you think Stallone will tell the distributors when they ask him to cut it for a PG13 rating? "Yes sir, Mr Money Man. Than you for speaking to me". Fuck no...
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There's no shaky cams, there's no MTV quick cuts, just damn fine action! I'm excited to see this, but even more excited about the prospect of Stallone working in the action genre. There needs to be a return to action basics, back to the time of Cameron's and Verhoeven's; directors that understand what makes an action film work. I'm convinced that Stallone understands.
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I don't really care if all that neck grabbing, and front seat splattering gets cut. I'll see the movie anyway. Why? Because I'll always have that fucking trailer. And in the second half of it I was treated to the kind of action I've always thought was lacking in films. I was genuinely entertained. So I feel I owe you. You got your ten dollars from me. Like you fucking need it you rich married to a supermodel prick, but if it means more HARD R's, then I'll be happy to help you send your maids and butler's kids through college.
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Holy shit, that was crazy gory.
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i'm still shaking. the cause? this carnage of footages!!!! and my little sister saw it and she is telling mom now!!!!!!!! Rambo rules!!!!
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I shudder to imagine a repeat of the 80's testosterone filled, brainless macho kill-fest movies. We're smarter than this, we need to act like it. What point is there for this film other that a bodycount? At least Firstblood made an attempt to portray the post-war veteran's syndrome.
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that's how people explode? thank you John Rambo.
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Alot of movie makers are now able to make a 50 or 60 million dollar movie look like a 100 million.. some examples are hellboy, blade 2, the first blade was made for less than 50 mil.. and all of them are great looking movies so i wouldnt be concerned about John Rambo not having big action sequences...im sure therell be shit blowing up 'o plenty. I think its pretty shameful that spiderman 3s budget was so huge and it turned out to be the weakest spiderman in the series.
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The group that rents the boat? It sounds like they're missionaries. Don't gloss over that, Mr. Stallone. This type of thing happens to missionaries more than we'd like to think about and it's good that you're acknowledging it.
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Okay, like most everyone else here I am thrilled to see Stallone taking John Rambo out for another spin. Rambo has always been (to me, at least) much like Sly's other American hero, Rocky Balboa - a
good and decent man at heart, a man who instinctively knows what's right, who knows what it takes to get the job done, and even knowing the pain that will be a part of that job he goes and does it, because it's simply the right thing for him to do.
I think part of the Rocky franchise's success is that the films are so genuine and real in their depiction of the events that transpire in the course of Rocky's life. It's what helps the films to hit home emotionally with the audience. Nowhere is this more painfully on display than the fight scenes. Every blow, every drop of sweat and blood, every bruise and cut on the skin...there is a realism there that makes you really FEEL what it is like for Rocky.
In this preview I got to see a realism that I know exists, that I know is happening every day in our world, and that sometimes makes me sick to my soul. The evil that men do to one another, and in the case of this film to innocents who are just trying to help others, makes me long for a real John Rambo, a man who sees what must be done and does it. He doesn't talk about doing it, he doesn't put his finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing, he doesn't care what the polls might say about him because he knows he doesn't have the time.
He just does it.
To see Rambo dispatching these people exactly the way it would look like in the "real" world gives me a sense of tremendous release...that these men truly paid for their evilness in a way that is as violent as the way that they chose to live. I hope the ratings board lets it pass. I'd hate to see Stallone have to water Rambo down to nothing. We live in the real world, and should not be shielded from it by some pathetic group of conservatives with an agenda. John Rambo may be a fictional character, but he is fighting to rid the world of real evil, and should be allowed to do so in a way we can experience, and with the extreme prejudice with which true evil always deserves. -
I mean, you've killed a lot of people, but in that video you KILLED some people. Rambo is back, and he's got a crazy taste for blood. He CUT A DUDE'S HEAD OFF!
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20 years of patience is paying off BIG time, i can't wait to see this film on the big screen, ta very much for the trailer :)
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if this happen in the real world well...poor the guy who have to grab a neck with his hands...poor.
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...then they should go after Stallone, especially if these rumours of a hulk style starting over are true. I mean lets face it, Frank Castle is just an urban John Rambo in a trenchcoat after being pushed "too far" one too many times. Plus he's around the right age as far as the comics go. Just pick things up after The Punisher has been out there and doing his thing for a few years, and have at it. And if we could get a Punisher film with the kind of balls that this had, who wouldn't love that? Sure, I'd love to see Jane back, but if that aint gonna happen I'd be down with Sly.
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godbless you Sly!
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That was freeking AWESOME!!!!
WOW SLY great job i can not wait to see this movie, First Rocky Balboa, now John Rambo.
this looks like another home run.
I hope this premieres at the chinese theatre, it would look incredbile on the screen.
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I was expecting some run-of-the-mill -PG-garbage and NOT this. It looks simply awesome! Finally a movie for adults! Violence is nasty and this looks like it delivers. Way to go Sly. Hope the suits don't mess with it. Don't LET them!
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I recall reading some stories about the role of spirituality in Stallone's life and in this last Rocky film, and while I do understand he has every right to take a stand on his own religion, I do not know yet how that relates to the missionary position.
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I didn't like the other ones. I thought they were sort of silly. I'll go see this one. I like seeing his veins throb.
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love the clip!!! I'm there on opening weekend! but Sly, DO NOT kill off Rambo at the end of this movie! It's not needed. Have him "ride off into the sunset" or some such, but an iconic character like Rambo must not be allowed to be killed off!!! PLEASE! RAMBO FOREVER!!!
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Stalone may do what a lot of movies have tried recently (and failed). He seems to have made a film that will be over the top in a way the adds humor, but not in a way thats devoid of style. All to often, movies have been coming out that try to go over the top (Snakes on a Plane, Grindhouse, etc) and they never hit home to anyone. They bomb due to a lack of heart or true source.
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Those of you saying this is 80s violence are wrong, very few ACTION movies in the 80s had this level of blood and guts; this is HORROR gore, definitely. And that's cool with me, we're in an age where unspeakable violence is broadcast on the news, internet and in movies every day and Sly has responded to that. With that said, the shooting the driver of the jeep with the 50 cal is the illest over the top shit in the world!!! That one tops the stone monument falling on the guy's head in "Hot Fuzz!" HEY SLY, my first short film I made in high school was named "Danbo," an homage to you, and I also made a sequel. You're the biggest reason I'm a screenwriter today, so I couldn't be happier that you've come back with a vengeance. Loved the personal, heartfelt writing of Rocky Balboa, it was great to see you be honest and write what you know, and I'll be there on the motherfucking opening day of John Rambo. Aaaauuugghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
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Looks good, I'm happy that Rambo's back in action. Rocky Balboa was a great way to make it come full cirlce, I hope John Rambo can do the same. :D Best of Luck Sly! :)
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Sweet I love it.
Just made my girl watch all 3 for the first time.
She Loved 1blood liked the second but was upset the girl died and kinda liked the 3.
Will see this opening night.
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That was worth the ten minute wait to download! This looks more like a sequel to First Blood than the others. Don't get me wrong, I love the other two, but they don't capture the pretty serious tone about John's internal torment.
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You know what is really sad? People like you who stand on the sidelines of the world/society throwing stones blindly. Your "viewpoint" on this flick, WHICH YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN YET, regarding accusations of racism and what not, is just unfound.
Here's a lesson for you buddy. Shit happens.
ALL races have performed acts of near genocide, slavery, murder, you name it. Black. White. Brown. Yellow.
And here's the thing, just because asians are depicted as enemies in this flick does not mean its a form of racism. Rambo 2 was about Vietnam POWs. Rambo 3 was about the Russian/Afghan war. These are real issues. Such is the case for John Rambo. Shit that has happened in the world we live in today. Stop looking for a cause. Should we simply dismiss anything that other races have done in the past? Tell us that Vietnam never happened, and that we were never in a conflict with them. Tell us that the Russians were never in a conflict with Afghanistan. Tell us that acts of genocide never happened in places like the setting of John Rambo. You can't. They did happen. And such events are being used, and have always been used in the social commentary we call cinema. Americans are just as stereotyped in international cinema as well.
Stereotypes exist for a fucking reason. Sad to say, but they do. And that includes stereotypes against Americans too. Racism would be looking at a group of people who are of a different race, and judging them based on those stereotypes. Where do you see that in these Rambo movies? Hasn't happened in Rambo 1, 2, or 3. And by the looks of it, hasn't happened in 4 either. And if your ignorant eyes could see, each of those movies (exclude 4, since we haven't seen it yet) portrayed a character or more of that race who did not fall under any of your "stereotypes". But with people like you, "Stallone was just doing that to off set his racism." STOP LOOKING FOR A CAUSE in every thing you see. I know you, Proman. In fact, we all know you... or at least a version of you in each of our lives. Ignorant. People who use the word racism so loosely, it's just distasteful. -
Rock on!
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didn't happen. BTW, I've feeling John isn't going to survive this film.
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Get crackin' on that Joker image...
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Minus all the blood and guts of course! But the scene of Rambo rising behind the enemy should definately be in the trailer. Definately! Rock on! Sly did it AGAIN!
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John Rambo looks like my dream 80's movie.
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Joker pic....LET'S GO!!!!
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Hey, I'm jazzed about this clip too... even though I still think Sly needs to just keep a few of these GORE SHOCK shots in the action. If it's in there as much as it is in this clip, it will take away from the action. It should happen just a few times, giving the audience the "Holy Shit!" reaction, rather than making it the norm in the movie.
Tangent... anyway, why are we doing the Bruce vs. Sly thing??? With all due respect to Sly, just because he put some extreme gore shots of heads popping off, guys getting ripped apart in a bloody explosion of bullets, etc. means that his flick is going to be better??? Give me a break.
Fact is, we haven't seen DIE HARD 4 and we haven't seen JOHN RAMBO, and until we do, we can't declare a winner... even so, why do we need to? I think many TBers are blowing this whole PG-13 rated DH4 waaaaay out of proportion. So we don't get as many f-bombs... does that really dictate the quality of the movie? And does gore dictate the quality of John Rambo? No. As long as the execution is good bringing these characters back in true form, then all is good. Bruce and Sly both get kudos from me, especially having the balls to come into a forum like this, trying to garner support for their movies. -
PG13 vs. R GET IT?
WHO'S THE LAST ACTION HERO? a week ago talbackers were kissing bruce willis' ass and now Sly's ass. shame on you !!!!!!!!! -
Can't remember.
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Cover your eyes if you are scared.
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whatup :)
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of Spectacular Racism in the RAMBO series. The brown guys are all frothing homicidal rapists. I guess this is really a documentary about Burma, then?
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:) Lovely footage dontcha think? I'm totally psyched for the movie now. It's giving me ideas on how to deal with the people in my neighborhood with loud cars.
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What's racist about them? Like I said above, all of these movies are centered on real conflicts and real events. To call the films/filmmakers racist is ridiculous. It's a story. Rambo 2 was about Vietnam POWs. 3 about Russian/Afghan conflict. 4 about the acts of genocide in Burma. Did that shit NOT happen? Are the movies saying: ALL asians, russians (not a race, by the way), etc. are bad???? NO. People need to stop using the term Racism so loosely.
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Kewl.
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First off, Ive been a big fan of the First Blood series since I was a kid, especially growing up in the 80s with the Rambo movies and the Rambo cartoon(which I own one episode on vhs still) and actually owning the Rambo action figures that still to this day get bootlegged and sold at Grocery stores nationwide. I own all three movie, and theyre on regular rotation on my dvd player. I watched the trailer twice cause I didnt want to be to judgemental at first glance, the first time I was pretty shocked and letdown but the second time I started to think to myself that this is only a teaser and with more editing it might really come out dope. The things that let me down is first it looks like the other cast members are more promenent then our hero is, the action scenes seem more in place with some Lionsgate horror films then here and theyre way to long, like a killing machine like Rambo would just chill out and pose after he rips someones neck off, I thinks hes way to well trained to take his time when not only his life but other peoples lives are at stake. I thought I was watching Touristas for a minute there. Oh, and hopefully thats not the soundtrack because that shit is HORRIBLE, it needs the classic First Blood soundtrack no matter how HARDCORE, EDGY, or EXTREME Rambos become in this flick. Everybodies all hyped up about it and lovig all the gore and action and seeing Rambo back in action that their not noticing these details. Every one of the First Blood flicks is a drama under all that action and suspence, and if they want to make sure that this ones up to par with the first 3 they need to take into consideration some of these things I just mentioned. These movies arent for little kids, just like the Rocky films, theyre for the older generation of people who grew up on Rambo and who actually want a good story with neccesary violence not a blood/gorefest thats for people with ADD or HAADD like the kids these days. For instance the chainsaw scene in Scarface, its probably the goriest scene in movie history without showing anything and thats what I think they should have done in that scene where he shoots the guy in the front seat, they should have shot it from the corner angle of the right side of the car and shown Rambo shooting him and the blood flying NOT the whole Gory mess, even though its cool, they need to understand that people will be bringing kids to these films and thats just unneccasary and out of character of the other three First Blood films. That fishing scene with the bow and arrow was great and the scene with Rambo and that old dude is great, but where the hell is Troutman, did the actor die, cause if he did thats a shame but if he didnt, you guys made a terrible mistake as he is a key part to these movies, but if you killed him off and Rambo pulls a Rocky and goes to visit Troutmans grave thats cool too, the cheese factor would be awesome. But please if you guys are reading this take what I said into consideration, this is the first time I feel that I HAVE to say something and I registered just to say this. Thank you and God bless.
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First of all.. Welcome back Stallone,the movies have needed you.Just loved the trailer.You even threw in an old 80's style rambo uuughughuuh!!! in there as you were mowing some dudes down with a machine gun..great touch.Im pretty sure Marcellus Wallace coulda used your help in the pawnshop, the way you took the rapist out in the clip.I was very pleased to see the 80's style titles at the end of the trailer.All we need is a slow- mo,strapping the weapons on and tightening the headband sequence and we have an instant classic.
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May 20, 2007 12:07:19 AM CDT
RE: This whole BRUCE vs. SLY thing is ridiculous...
by abcdefghijklmnop
Yeah, it is...especially when you consider that this isn't even the trailer. Anyway, I really like the way Rambo is portrayed in the first half...living a monastic lifestyle, fishing with the bow and arrow, and telling that guy who hasn't brought any weapons, "You ain't changin' nothing." I just hope the film doesn't take itself too seriously. The best 80's action films were violent as hell, but they were also allowed to be fun. To be honest, I'm not crazy about the generic, bleak look of the film. Stuff like that has become so commonplace, it just kind've runs together. Rambo should be violent, but I could care less if it's realistic. I love the scene with the driver and mounted gun. Also, there's a nice homage to both Missing in Action 3 AND Roadhouse at the 1:13 remaining mark. But please Sly, don't get too preachy with this. Also, I'm still holding out hope that someone can come up with a really clever title. John Rambo just seems a little lazy in the wake of Rocky Balboa. If marketing can come up with a great spin on "First Blood", then that would pretty much justify the film's existence, regardless of the content.
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LOL... just kidding you guys. Made me laugh. Gib's first comment sounded like, "Hey Baby, what you wearing behind that keyboard?" ;)
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Hey Sly,
the footage looks awesome. i think its cool all the Rambo films have different titles. i can't wait to see it.
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I agree. This movie looks kickass. I can't stand people that throw "racism" thing around at every chance. Like you said, this is based loosely off actual events. Nothing racist about it...just another Rambo movie getting ready to kick some butt! Go Sly!
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They could have insinuated rape like the guys give sthe chick a look like hes going to do something to her not just have her on the floor and the guying unzipping his pants, thats a little to generic for me. Plus, wheres the main villain at? Every great Rambo flick has a great villain, wheres he at, or she?
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My wife and I just watched this. Thank you for bringing this to us! I recently watched "First Blood Part II" and "Rambo III" and wondered what the hell Stallone was going to do to pick this one up out of the gutter that it seems to have been thrown in. But goddamn if I don't see this movie...
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Like the majority of the people posting here, we're shameless, mostly biased, advocates of anything Rambo. It's doubtless that Sly Stallone has created two of cinemas most iconoclastic characters in Rambo and Rocky. No matter where you travel in the world their names are more known that most real life celebrities. That being said, I really enjoyed Rocky Balboa as a great closing chapter to the Rocky anthology. I was hoping that the new Rambo would return to it's roots to make a full circle closure to that series too. Rambo was a super soldier, down-trodden, and abused who used the elements and guerellia warfare to come out on top. I was hoping to see more of the stuff from "First Blood" with the traps and the extreme environmental pressures. I know the trailer is preliminary but it seems almost B movie in the "Grindhouse" tradition. I'll still be first in line at the theatres.
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The guy you love to hate.
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Specter2683...yeah, Richard Crenna died. I didn't recognize the guy who informs Rambo about the capture, but he was probably my least favorite part of the footage. He seemed a little heavy-handed, but maybe I just miss Trautman. As for the gore, this stuff is just intended to generate interest. The first promo shots were met with a lot of negativity, so it's obviously a little spin control. It needs to be violent, but I doubt Sly will include a heavy dose of gore throughout the entire film. If he were to do that, it would probably backfire. Hostel can target kids like that, but Rambo also appeals to an older demographic. Sly will have to find that balance if he wants this film to be taken seriously.
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Cheesy music, ultra violent revenge flick. Oh yeah and he wears a hairpiece and probably dies whatever hair he has. His time has come and gone.
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I think he still has some decent vision for films. He jsut needs to see himself behind teh camera solely. He's making a mockery of himself.
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Well I for one loved it - it is so refreshing to see an action film that actually has some balls. I love the 80's vibe and dirty look - thanks Sly for keepin it real!
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just please make sure the edit or dialogue doesn't dumb down the realism of the characters. I'm sure the performances are there. You have always been good with pacing and taking time where it's needed, Sly. I hope you have that kind of control on this one. Also, please keep the gore as close to realistic as possible. I hate it when people become walking blood balloons, it pulls me out of the film. Thanks for caring about our opinions!
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May 20, 2007 12:42:46 AM CDT
2 for 2 Sly - go for 3-Tango & Cash II or Cliffhanger 2
by aussiemclane
Well, i think with all the feedback over aint it cool news and other forums,any concerns have been put to rest! THIS WILL RULE. STALLONE RULES & RAMBO IS BACK! Any distributors reading here - BUY THIS FILM & DISTRIBUTE IT IN YOUR COUNTRIES - Just see the feedback & you will know this is gonna be a hit! Check out stallonezone.com forum!
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About time we got a REAL fucking action movie! Thanks Sly, you're the fucking man!
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Now THAT is what we need. BADASS! A proper goodbye for another iconic film hero. Stallone knows how to handle closing a fucking curtain. Well played sir!
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Please don't kill Rambo! It will push it into nihilism.
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After seeing this, I believe Stallone should pick up the film mantle of the Punisher. Thomas Jane jumped ship, which is fine by me since he wasn't very compelling as Frank Castle. However, Stallone was meant to play the Punisher. He's huge and scary. He's Italian. He's proficient with weapons. Stallone, take the intiative and snag that role. AS for anyone judging the contents of this film (in regards to serious subject material other than the action bits), must be from the future. None of us have any idea what this film will be like. We know there will be killing. We shouldn't guess that it won't be serious or introspective. First Blood had a lot of soul to it. Rambo II was a pure revenge flick. Rambo III was a little messy, but it was at least topical and dealt with a situation that we should have been paying attention to as the public. Just saying, there might be more to John Rambo than just mindless violence.
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I absolutely loved this clip. The action, the gore, the dialogue,etc. Just like Rocky Balboa brought that series to a fantastic end, I feel from the look of these scenes, this will right the wrongs of Rambo 3. It also looks like it won't be as over the top and fantastical as Rambo 2 and 3, but a simple straight forward reality based kind of action, not seen really since First Blood, all those years ago.
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I'm curious about the look, I always pictured Rambo, later on in his life, with a beard, some scars, worn down, but still tough! Also the head band was a trademark for Rambo 2 & 3, sure, but now it looks a little silly, I'd maybe loose it, the black one looked ok, but its hard to say. KEEP THE GORE, Rambo should be rated "R", no doubt. First Blood is one of my all time favorite action films, I'd like to see a little more John Rambo, hunted and weaponless.
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...and by HARDCORE I don't mean "The Italian Stallion". This is gorey. Thanks Sly. Although gorey, I'm an adult and know it's just fake blood (that means don't let your kids watch this you bad parents out there)...still not nearly as gross as the real Iraq war photos/video. Anybody sickened by this Rambo preview should take a reality check and realize far worse death/injuries happen in Iraq everyday, and the Bush administration is the cause.
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They should just change the name of "Live Free or Die Hard" to something else then cut out all the instances of anyone saying "McClane". Then the movie won't tarnish the Die Hard series, and then they can make a REAL 4th Die Hard movie.
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As much as I loved the Machete trailer, on his best day R.R. ain't gonna touch this! FUCK YEAH! Let's mow down some anonymous indigenous natives!
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I've been invisibilized...
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...in any fucking way? The trailer shows the army guys killing civilians at the very beginning, Asian civilians. Besides rescuing the (missionaries?), Rambo is going to slaughter the bad guys and save the good Asians. And why does it fucking matter what race they are anyway? This shit is happening all over the world, and it's not race based as much as religious based.
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With Rocky Balboa(Great Flick), and now this sweet footage. The man known a Stallone is back from the grave. Way to go, Sly!!!!!!!!!
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I cannot wait to see this !!! I was psyched before ....Now.... omfg !
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Im downloading the trailer now . I'm gonna watch it everyday Till it comes out / Awesome Sly ....Simply Awesome !
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When Rambo ANNIHILATES that guy in the drivers seat, I both came and went!!!
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All the guys Rambo kills are brown. The good brown people are victims. He goes to save them because they can't save themselves. He goes to save the good white folk and the cute white woman from rape by a bad brown dude.
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I said godDAMN.
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He does :)
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At first i thought this looked crap. Looks like a direct to video flick and the story seemed lame as fuck. What the hell has Christians in Asia got to do with Rambo or more importantly our current political climate...might as well see Rambo kill Jap harpooners for killing the whales.
Then the gore and music hit....this shit looks good. Immediately i started having flashbacks of all the old poor quality grainy revenge flicks i so loved in the 80's.
Stallone is a dinosaur though...and he knows that the only reason people wanna see him is to train to a montage, or shoot the heads of guys.
Bruce should have only signed if he was allowed to make an R rated flick. You can't see Sly doing the same thing. Time will tell though when Rambo comes out...if it gets to keep all that gore or will Sly bow down to all the piss weak emasculated suits who want to make flicks for the feminised youth of today.
My heroes were sly, van damme, Arnie, Chuck...and you expected to see blood.
Today they have keanu Reeves and that fat old british guy from Crank.
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First Blood 2: Russian and Vietnamese
First Blood 3: Afghani
John Rambo: Burmese. It doesn't gt more diverse, champ. Seems to be that the only one with racial ignorance in this TB is your good self. -
Stop talking until you know what you're talking about. Go to the corner of the room. Think about what you've said. And don't even think about coming back until you've learned your lesson.
Cinema is social commentary and is and has always been a reflection of the times we live in. So your whole rant about "It's fiction and the storytellers create and control..." is pretty much proof that you don't know what you're talking about. So in your eyes, DEER HUNTER, PLATOON, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN (germans instead of "brown people"... the term you seem to like which in itself can be viewed as racist), etc. are racist because they're killing "brown people" (or Germans, which YOU probably say is prejudice because all of the Germans are portrayed as nazi's and the rest of the Germans are victims... give me a break)? Um. No. You don't know what racism is my friend. Let's all just agree on that. These plots are just saying: Okay, Rambo is fighting Vietnamese soldiers that are imprisoning American POWs illegally. Rambo is fighting Russians that are slaughtering Afghanis. Rambo is fighting genocide-performing Burma ignorants that are keeping people hostage. It's not, Rambo is killing Vietnamese, Russians, etc. because all of them are bad. Don't take shit out of context.
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A few stunning moments of brutality will really keep the audience invested.
However, mindless/repetitive gore will desensitize the audience and give the perception of pandering.
Going way overboard may have us wondering if Stallone is playing out the part of Rambo, or playing out the part of an angry action star that knows his career is coming to a close with revisits to 80s films.
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A BIG "GO FUCK YOURSELF" FROM ME! The action is not realistic at all...I damn well laughed when he cut the guys head off and than shot the other guy into a explosion of ketchup. Dont even get me started on the explosions of red water when he shoots the other guys in the truck or the neck ripping that still makes me laugh. Sorry but it just aint real....tone down the blood explosion and add more grit.
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OK let's just make movies where no terrorists are islamic and there are no child prostitutes in India or Thailand, where cocaine is good for you and killing is a disney happy thing. I know, Sly can colorize the film so all the bad guys have green skin and his is purple. Saying this stuff happens in real life DOES fly, "bro". What makes you the rule maker? I say if it happens in real life, it's fine for this. Don't brand things "racist" so liberally because you will dillute its meaning and empower the real racists.
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What i like about Sly is his understanding of the motivations of his characters. John Rambo has been exploited for his killing skills in the past, is too good at killing - too much of an asset to leave alone. All he wants is to find some peace...as for the violence, i actually don't think it's gratuitous. Like James Bond, Rambo reacts to his environment and turns it to his advantage.
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But this looks great. I wasn't looking forward to this idea at all, but I can get really excitted about what I've seen so far. Bring it on!
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NONE of these have any place here! This a fucking action movie with arrows, blood and throats being ripped out bare-fuckin-handed! Anyone creating arguments as to the validity of "brown people" being reduced to red paint are missing the point.
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Seriously, the violence in that trailer evoked memories of "The Wild Bunch" in the amount of red splatter, which is a good thing. It would be great if John Rambo brings about a return of the "violence as art" genre movies of around the late sixties/early seventies era. What is old is new again, and we'll have Sly to thank.
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When I first heard that another Rambo movie was being made I figured "Oh geeze, there goes sly, having late-life-crisis".
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But I seriously doubt it will make it to the final theatrical cut. And no offense to Sly, a great, great actor and personality, but he looks sort of portly for a guy who's supposed to be living in the South East and probably off of like rice and shit, no?
But yo, tell me you didn't shout or unleash some profanity when he blew that fucker away with that giant machine gun. HEY HOLLYWOOD, MORE MACHINE GUNS IN MOVIES. BRING 'EM BACK. -
If you shoot a man with a 50 cal... he will become a meat puppet of blood.
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YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
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I liked that allot, definite cinema trip for me methinks.
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It would be funny if they had to reshoot half the film to make it happen. Or they can spend money to have it digitally removed. I wonder which would be cheaper? HMMMMMMMMMM?????????
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I like the look of it, especially when he chops that guys head off and then goes ape shit with the big machine gun. Obviously some of these scenes won't make the trailer - but I see no reason why they won't make it to the final film. Good work Sly.
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Sly can't beat Wayne Scott!
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So says, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. The Justice Brothers!
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Part of what made First Blood so wonderful was that you couldn't wait to see Brian Dennehy get his a the end of the movie. The rest of the Rambo movies didn't seem to get a very good baddie for you to really root for Rambo to splatter him at close range with a big machine gun.
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Seriously, I just put $7.50 into my piggy bank and put John Rambo's name on it. My only fear is that the ratings board is gonna try to make you their bitch. Just at least promise me an unrated DVD...
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May 20, 2007 3:12:55 AM CDT
Fucking wicked-ass awesome!!!
by film_fanatic_in_the_original_black_and_w
Finally, a franchise sequel or remake that really delivers. I'm behind Stallone all the way no matter what he does from here on out. ROCKY BALBOA did it for me.
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Does anyone know where I can find the old SNL Stallone Julius skit? That skit has to be the funniest skit I've ever seen. Please someone who has it post it.
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I'm not the badguy, proman is ! I'm 100% ON this film.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm dying to see Rambo as much as the next 80's fanboy. It's been 20 years since we had a real icon. But I could give two fucks about seeing Rambo save a bunch of asshole missionaries.
The bottom line is that John Rambo is an AMERICAN HERO!!!!
I knew this script was in for the shits when I first heard about Rambo's new mission. Considering it's been 20 years since we've last seen Rambo, and so much has happened in the world, you would think that the script could have been a bit more appealing for an American audience.
In First Blood, Rambo was a vietnam vet getting shit on by some fat fuck Sheriff in a small town. Rambo II< Sly saved POW's from the NAM camps. Rambo III, Stallone is blowing up fucking camel jockies way before our real life middle eastern conflicts. Now in Rambo IV, he's reduced to saving a buch of modern day hippies in the violent jungles of west-bam-way-fuck.
I heard there were tons of script treatments over the last 10 years. Everything from Rambo fighting terrorism in the USA without weapons to the return of Brian Dennehy's character in the original film who has since gone ape shit after being fucked up John Boy.
Even after the events of 9/11 and with so many of our troops fighting for our country in Iraq, you would think this film would have brought us our cinematic American military hero icon to stroke our patriotic egos.
I love violence and blood baths as much as the next guy, but regardless of how many people Rambo violently and graphically kills in this movie, it WILL NOT have the audience and die hard fans ignore the fact thatthe script is the drizzling shits!!!
I loved Rocky Balboa and hoped for the same out of John Rambo. I guess it was too much to hope for.
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sly is killing it. i thought this film was gonna be crap, but seeing that, I'm all in head first. I hope this film has at least have the heart rocky 6 did. Rocky 6 killed all the previous 4. for me its Rocky - then rocky 6. Sly, keep doing your thing, B, cos you still got it.
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Anyway, SHAME on the AICN editors. It's irresponsible for you not to warn us to put on diapers before viewing. Now I'm a mess. Thanks guys.
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Rambo is back, and maybe this'll be the best part of the series.
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I knew that Rambo 4 was gonna be great but damn this has surpassed all my expectations!!When is saw this trailer it put tears in my eyes it so great!!Just like when I first saw the trailer for Batman Begins.I've been waiting for Rambo4 since 1997 when it was first announced.Go Sly we love you!!!!!
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To be honest I was a bit sceptical about the upcoming John Rambo even after the fantastic Rocky Balboa. But I watched this little promo and I can say it'll be f*ckin' awesome. Maximum gore, no bullshitting, no PG 13, that's what I call an action movie. Keep it this way Sly, the fans are with you! And once again congratulations for Rocky Balboa, it has become one of my favourite movies!
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May 20, 2007 4:04:33 AM CDT
Nice! But I'm getting Basic Instinct 2 trailer vibes..
by enrique_o_k2000
You know, that online one that had all kinds of sex and nudity that never made it into the final film? Here's hoping the blood n guts stay in.
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Loooooooved it cant wait for the movie. We need more good home watching movies so that when you are half way through you are hiding behind the couch scared shitless.
The guys here in Iraq were cheering all the way.
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First of all let me praise the good stuff: the violence, the realistic gore, the motivation to go on a rampage, the Burma setting. This film has the potential to be a great R-rated no-holds-barred hit.
Nevertheless, with the current distributor; the unimpressive cinematography (very cable tv look (although the film print might be polished later on); the generic trailer soundtrack, the film could also go into Made for Video territory easily. Additionally, the lack of a central villain might also be indicative that they are going for a DELIVERANCE type of foe, a collective intent on attacking innocents, but that might lessen the film's impact. I am not saying go for a Steven Berkoff (RAMBO II) hysterical, one-dimensional maniac, but a central villain is needed. Another aspect is the following: I have heard that the script follows an A TEAM type scenario where Rambo takes a younger crew to rescue others, that is not evident in the trailer. It would have been interesting to have that kind of dynamic between Rambo and his crew, the disdain they feel for his methods, primal methods which ultimately will be chillingly more effective than theirs.
The film was shot in Thailand supposedly but it might have well ben shot in the BLAIR WITCH forest, because I don't detect much of that country's geography on the film.
Last but not least, the late Jerry Goldsmith is sorely missing. His music was an integral part of the series and they should hire a composer who emulates the signature Rambo theme throughout the film - please no generic or techno rock score - an orchestral score with the theme is a *must.*
I love the gore in the footage, the realistic depiction of violence, the shot of Rambo coming up from behind, but take all that and the trailer looks like any Chuck Norris 80s MIA sequel, so I hope Stallone will take into account the above observations. -
May 20, 2007 4:12:04 AM CDT
Always inspiring to see seniors with active lifestyles
by bannedontherun
And, again, serious question for anyone in the sound design biz: is there really only one "blade being unsheathed" sound effect? Like the Wilhelm Scream, that sound is everywhere (even when it wouldn't actually make that sound; e.g., on someone's throat). Wolvie's claws etc. SNIKT!
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Sly, i'm so glad you're back as john rambo. There aint been enough kick-ass movies with guts and feel. Give us some "80s" action stuff, Sly. Not the recent crap "action" movies like the punisher. You make thomas jane and all the wannabes look like pee wee herman. Is there gonna be some "elite" bad guys to up the ante or you just gonna waste some generic badguy assholes? Hope you will keep the rambo "soundtrack" in this new movie. When RAMBO IV makes a gazillion dollars, maybe the studios will beg you to star in the punisher sequel. Its about f%^kin' time you turned full circle!
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As a long time fan of Mr. Stallone's work, I was thrilled by the clip of John Rambo. Even though the footage is not technically polished yet, it's clear that this film is shaping up to deliver something that will exceed expectations the same way Rocky Balboa did last Christmas. Thanks for working your ass off, Sly. I'm thrilled and will be there opening weekend.
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To all the haters: Rambo is coming to get you. Sly, i remember getting First Blood out on Betamax in the early 80's. I was a fan then, i am a bigger fan now. That footage was mindblowing literally. I am part Burmese and looking forward to seeing film as i am shocked my events happening over there. God bless you Sly
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you know you want it...
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Doesn't take much to be considered a genius director on this site- decapitations, slit-throats and exploding a few dudes into bolognese will do just fine. Welcome home, Johnny.
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You are officially out of a job. See above.
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SLY,
Judging from the trailer you seem to be doing everything exactly right so just stick with it and you'll make an awesome movie.
I am so pumped up for this its gonna rock.
I loved the music at the end of the trailer, gave it a eally dark and almost morbid feel.
The violence is perfection, just make sure you have a great heartfelt story to go with it and i'm gonna be in heaven when watching this.
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They. Drew. First. Blood.
That's all I'm saying. You have to become war to fight war. Nothing else matters no more.
Live and let die. I'm back. Just you see.
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This movie looks like its gone be awesome. Great work Sly
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WTF, Stallone was touched by an angel recently making decent flicks?
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Mr Sly, count me in! You just turned my rambo-meter to high.
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Hi Sly! Here's my tuppence for you. Somebody took all the intelligence out of FIRST BLOOD when they made RAMBO 2 & 3. Whereas FB had plot, real characters and, thus, real excitement and suspense, plot and dialog in the sequels were minimal and the films were populated with clichéd characters. I actually cared for John Rambo in the first film, and rooted for him. He was done wrong and the assholes asked for it - and got it. I didn't care about him in the sequels, he was a cartoon in both of them. To be honest, I think you were a little too preoccupied with looking ripped and badass (and competing with Arnie) and neglected to give the films an emotional core. I hope you've addressed these issues and given us a follow-up to FIRST BLOOD and not RAMBO part 3. Trailer looked pretty good, though the gore was OTT in my opinion. Definitely keep Jerry's great music - it was the emotional soul of FIRST BLOOD. If JOHN RAMBO is what I'm hoping for, then thankyou Sly! If not, then OK, I still have FIRST BLOOD :-) Good luck!
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anybody who thought he was too old or lame for this... well now you know better! this looks frakking awesome!!!! Bloody and back in action!!!!!
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I think you mean iconic, not iconoclastic.
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That was the impression I got. I don't mind it being a Hard-R kind of flick; like everyone else says, it's been too long since a full-on action film felt particularly actiony. But that doesn't mean blood and guts, it means action and excitement. Die Hard 1 had a few grisly shots in it (Takagi's head, Maclane shooting the guy's kneecaps off,) but the movie certainly wasn't great just because of those parts... it was great because we loved the hero, we respected the bad guys, and we gasped at the stunts and relished the adventure and the suspense of it all. The same goes for the original First Blood (except that Dennehy's character was much more dickish than Hans Gruber.)
Sly, I'm cool with the grisly shots in the promo, and I'm sure in the full context of the movie, they'll just be a single aspect of the overall effect of the film (like how the gorier shots of the first Robocop helped set that film apart from its contemporaries, but the gore wasn't all that the movie was about.) I just hope we'll see more of the deeper conflict of the movie as its release draws closer. -
well ive been a big fan of stallone for years mainly for his rocky films and rambo films, i was excited and pleased when he returned with the final film to end his rocky series and was please with the final product, and ive been waiting and hoping he would return as rambo one last time.....now im like a kid again im so excited to see this film the promo clip looks wicked and if he wants to improove even more the fuck this is gonna be the best of all the rambos.
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Dear Mr. Stallone,
I've always been a fan and enjoyed your movies. I really liked what you did for the return of Rocky in "Rocky Balboa" and after being so happy with that film I am looking forward to "John Rambo" and hope that you'll finish his story in an equally great way.
The promo clip simply hit me like a train yesterday. The first half sets the mood, the pace, things are nicely melancholic, lot of resignation in the character and ... than comes the second half, hi-paced, hitting you like a sledgehammer. Not only talking about the very unexpected gore, but also about your powerhouse-performance, depicting Rambo as a badass, probably pissed with so many things, and he just retaliates, angry, hatefully, merciless. Those guys had it coming and hell, do they get it!
If the balance of the movie and the overall-pace are right, giving a good justification for the realistic and shocking violence, if there are enough brakes, some character building and quiet scenes in between and than at the right point Rambo explodes on the screen, this movie will be so right - can't wait!
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10/10! And I'm not even the biggest Rambo fan! :-) WHOOP WHOOP!!!! :-)
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So i'm a big fan of the first Rambo and thought the other two were "ok". But not on my favorites list. This footage has made me unable to wait patiently for the films release, I cant wait to sit in a Cinema and be grossed out/shocked with some screen violence that has been surely missing, as well as seeing a great screen hero come back in a slightly more believable setting. Good luck bro and give us a shout when your down in New Zealand next.
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This looks surprisingly very good. I'll admit I rolled my eyes when I heard Sly was going back to Rambo. A character turned into summing up 80s America more than most. Which was surprising because that's not how the character came into being. But then, anything that involves James Cameron and guns is always going to end up a bit out there (usually in a good way). As a kid, I loved First Blood but didn't care much for First Blood Part 2 and Rambo 3. And because of that I was always more Rocky fan than Rambo fan. For John Rambo, I have the same trepidation I had for Rocky Balboa. My head was going "Leave it Sly!" but once in that cinema and hearing 300 scousers all chanting "Rocky!Rocky!Rocky!" at the screen when Rocky is on the deck, barking at himself to get up, all the fears were washed away. After watching that trailer, all I can say is "Whoa!" I totally go with the Grindhouse effect on it but if Sly keeps up the characterisation that he can do brilliantly, then I think we've got ourselves a hell of a film.
To be honest, I think this is the right time for this film. It couldn't have been made 10 years ago. Men just stopped being men. Want an example? Check the difference in Martin Briggs between Lethal Weapon 1 and 4. At the time, we "connected" with feelings. Testosterone went out of fashion. And any film that still hankered for it, usually ended up a low budgeter that went straight to vhs/dvd. Usually with Steven Seagal grimacing. But recent releases such as Casino Royale, Sin City, 300 etc etc have brought back actual MEN onto our screens and it's not just the men who are enjoying it. Girls are digging it too.
This won't have the feel good factor that Rocky Balboa had in spades but it's going to reawaken the dormant beast in a lot of guys, who hanker for the days of cinema past where men were indeed men and made no bones about it but broke a lot of necks.
Kudos to Sly by the way. His directing skills seem to get better and better each time. He seems to be more open to other ideas and influences. Like he's still learning. It's good to see that he still has that enthusiasm, where you are more receptive. Welcome back, Sly. You were gone too long...Though as a Liverpool FC fan, I do question your sanity about supporting Everton ;)
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This looks surprisingly very good. I'll admit I rolled my eyes when I heard Sly was going back to Rambo. A character turned into summing up 80s America more than most. Which was surprising because that's not how the character came into being. But then, anything that involves James Cameron and guns is always going to end up a bit out there (usually in a good way). As a kid, I loved First Blood but didn't care much for First Blood Part 2 and Rambo 3. And because of that I was always more Rocky fan than Rambo fan. For John Rambo, I have the same trepidation I had for Rocky Balboa. My head was going "Leave it Sly!" but once in that cinema and hearing 300 scousers all chanting "Rocky!Rocky!Rocky!" at the screen when Rocky is on the deck, barking at himself to get up, all the fears were washed away. After watching that trailer, all I can say is "Whoa!" I totally go with the Grindhouse effect on it but if Sly keeps up the characterisation that he can do brilliantly, then I think we've got ourselves a hell of a film.
To be honest, I think this is the right time for this film. It couldn't have been made 10 years ago. Men just stopped being men. Want an example? Check the difference in Martin Briggs between Lethal Weapon 1 and 4. At the time, we "connected" with feelings. Testosterone went out of fashion. And any film that still hankered for it, usually ended up a low budgeter that went straight to vhs/dvd. Usually with Steven Seagal grimacing. But recent releases such as Casino Royale, Sin City, 300 etc etc have brought back actual MEN onto our screens and it's not just the men who are enjoying it. Girls are digging it too.
This won't have the feel good factor that Rocky Balboa had in spades but it's going to reawaken the dormant beast in a lot of guys, who hanker for the days of cinema past where men were indeed men and made no bones about it but broke a lot of necks.
Kudos to Sly by the way. His directing skills seem to get better and better each time. He seems to be more open to other ideas and influences. Like he's still learning. It's good to see that he still has that enthusiasm, where you are more receptive. Welcome back, Sly. You were gone too long...Though as a Liverpool FC fan, I do question your sanity about supporting Everton ;)
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Sly, if you don't kill Rambo off in this one, I would love to see you write one with flashbacks to Vietnam with a young Rambo, Trautmen, Danforth, etc. Get some young actors and show us what a true guerrilla war was like with this character. I think that would be interesting to see Rambo in his original element. You could narratate the story from any number of perspectives--Trautmen's relative, a kid, a love interest, reporter, etc. Just a thought! Keep it going!! Love the character!!!
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I watched the promo; it's got Stallone in top form! I even sent the link to a good buddy, and put in the subject line "3.5 minutes of J.R., and I don't mean Dallas"! :-) . . . I'll go see JOHN RAMBO on opening day !!!!!!!!!!
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Until last year all, the only Stallone films I had really seen were Judge Dread, Demolition Man and Daylight. I have to say my oppinion of his movies wasn't that high and it was only last year I took the time to watch his Rocky and Rambo movies.
My oppinion of Stallone has completely changed and I can now say I'm a fan. I loved the Rocky series (Balboa was great!) and I was plesently surprised at how good a film First Blood was. After seeing this trailer for the new Rambo I can safely say I'll be there on opening day. I wish I got into these films in the 80's but better late than never. -
A lot of action films in the last 10 years have been flaccid, boring grabs for cash in pandering to teenage audiences who can only get in to see PG13 bullshit. This looks like it's harking back to the hardcore 80's no-holds-barred action that I remember so fondly from my youth. If the 'John Rambo' can pull off Rambo in all his supersized, superhero glory - and still entertain me with the likes of what I've just witnessed - then Go For It Sly! P.S - did that guy in the front of the jeep just explode into tomato puree? Fuck me gently with a chainsaw, THAT was fantastic.....
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Rock on Sly!!!! Rock The Fuck On!!!!!
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As someone else said, this has a straight-to-video look to it. Action movie Rambo is a stupid and laughable film character in 2007. Rambo belongs more in a cartoon than in a film.
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"Pretty hardcore violence, just as long as it's 'necessary to the plot' I don't have any issues with it." Yeah, God Forbid some faceless talkbacker has issues with it....
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Its Sunday and hopefully you'll return to read a couple more entries here on the board before heading back to the editing room.
So far it looks overwhelmingly positive for the film.
I've been with you since Rocky came out and even today I tell some 19 year old co-workers the legend of how way back when you wrote Rocky in under a week and THEN had the guts to tell them you wanted to STAR in the film too!All this after being so lucky to get as far as to have the screenplay even CONSIDERED in the first place and then with nothing in the bank you tell them you star in it or you walk away!
(sweetest revenge to them all was winning an Oscar (AND getting nominated for the screenplay too!)
As with many star/writer/directors you've had hits and misses. Its just natural.
But your high points have always been the ROCKY films, NIGHTHAWKS, CLIFFHANGER, COPLAND
But you've really come back strong recently especially with ROCKY BALBOA.
It was a brilliant stroke of genius to kill off the Adrian character. (either because of salary conflicts or you were truly looking for a way to put some heart into the screenplay)
You took the chance and the leap of faith of not having Adrian in the film (which of course I should think made you risk losing a good portion of your fan base once word leaked out that she wasnt in the film)
Its the reason I have stopped reading comic books in fact.
Nobody is willing to make daring changes that stick!
Superman is immortal for gosh sakes---do a branch off series where Lois and Jimmy are dead and have Superman move on already.
Spider-Man needs to grow as well in some daring way.
(and hey Marvel....stick to one
friggin villian thank you-the toy franchise will be fine without help. SM 3 should have hit 380 million this weekend and your having trouble reaching 300 million as of today---DUH!!)
suggestion-
Lizard for SM 4
RHINO for SM 5
Hollywood needs to trust their writers more.
Anyway--killing off Adrian really added a punch to the film and you really bookended the series on a very touching heartwarming note.
(the only down part was the fight seemed a bit short and lacked the power of the previous ones but after all theres only so much you CAN do with 6 fight scenes in 6 films)
And now you graciously show us this RAMBO footage way before a trailer of this maganatude would normally be shown....be nice if more studios would do this kind of thing.
You will no doubt be pressuered to cut SOME blood shed and you SHOULD compromise a LITTLE so that you would be allowed to keep the scenes of power that YOU personally like.(long as its true to the story)
I'll be there either way.
I am also really looking forward to POE also. I know it's been a long term project you've wanted to get on the screen and it looks like it will finally happen for you.
Your on your way to showing off the wisdom of the past the same way Eastwood is cranking out HIS finest work in the past decade.
Your acting has always been critisized through the years but your writing and directing has been your power and your heart.
(STAYING ALIVE still hold up)
Keep going on that path and you'll add some very nice films to the back half of your resume.
Anyway- JOHN RAMBO looks like it will be just the release of frustration many of us are feeling what with the war and all.
Hell, if you had to this could be released even earlier in March or April and it would make some great bank!
Looking forward to much, much more surprises from you.
Thanks for all the memories.
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I think this looks great, i can't stop watching it. Do i really HAVE to wait 12 months to see the whole thing?
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After a cracking shot at Rocky Balboa, it looks like he may have pulled off another coup with John Rambo. It's incredible that the previous 'last films' of both series were utter shite, whereas this looks to be quite brilliant. I hope it lives up to the trailer!
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Rambo fighting terrorist? Fighting the war in Iraq? An American hero? Whilst some Americans would like that, do you honestly think the rest of the world would?
Patriotism is a good thing but you have to remember the world is much larger than the United States. A character such as Rambo is a hero in that he fights against injustice and not for his country and not for anyone else. The whole world can enjoy a character such as that regardless of what country they are from.
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I want to see that gore in high def!
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Vicious!!! Finally, a real action flick! Can't wait, Good Job Sly!
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on my site here:
http://www.johntedwards.com/2007/05/19/top-secret-first-look-at-john-rambo/
I took the original QT and encoded it to Flash (.flv) using the best settings for video and sound. The aspect ratio is right and the embedded video player matches the widescreen dimensions correctly.For anyone who has yet to enjoy it! -
OK, I get it, this board just automatically breaks up posted URLs with spaces. So:
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This clip is awesome but I'm sure some Politically correct Hollywood idiot will edit this before it hits the theater's. The footage will probably be on the DVD but I would like to see Sly take a stand on this one since he took a back seat on the Rocky Balboa ending.
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...that was probably one of the most embarrassingly half-baked political outbursts I've seen on AICN. I can't imagine the humiliation at having your ass handed to you, thinly sliced, as RevSick most decidedly did.
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I'm not at all excited about what this movie will present us. It is too much Rambo (II and III) and almost no sense of First Blood to see in this not very uplifting trailer material.
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After how awesome Rocky 6 was I was already sold on seeing Rmabo 4, but this has just inspired me to get everybody I know to see this movie!I loved 'Man On Fire' and consider it kinduva Rambo-type story. This might just be the best berzerc maniac movie since Man On Fire! Bring it on!
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It seems he has spent the past 20 years in relative solitude, trying to escape his past, escape himself, deny what he is. But he can't deny it, he is a monster. He was still human, albeit severely disturbed, in First Blood, but a lot of blood has been spilt since then, and that's why I think this Rambo is so violent, he finally realises that he is just a killing machine, and will never change, never find the peace he craves, at least not in life, John Rambo will only find peace in death, that's why he should die at the end of this film.
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...I should have expected your response, but the truth is that I thought you'd bench yourself on this one. Proman1984 raised a number of issues which were adroitly met, overcome and counter-challenged by RevSick. Proman failed on virtually every account to defend his own position as well as addressing RevSick's counterpoints. Come to think of it, now I understand why you feel a kinship with the guy.
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If Stallone is still following this Talkback, it will be real interesting to see if he addresses you ala AK-47 (the Talkbacker).
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May 20, 2007 9:40:35 AM CDT
Contrada, what message do you expect from a trailer?
by theyreflockingthisway
Other than - "you should see this film"? All a trailer is supposed to do is gain your attention and advertise it to you. The message will be in the film where it belongs.
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Thanks for the clip, Sly. Loved it. One observation, though. Rambo kinda sounds like Rocky when speaking. Isn't he from Arizona?
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http://tinyurl.com/35b27x - there we go. And it LOOKS GREAT (see that, mr. Willis?)
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Way to go Sly!!!! That was one of the most badass things I have ever seen in my life. As a huge fan of ALL the Rambo films, this has officially become my most anticipate film of the year!
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...has always been spot-on when it comes to religious fundamentalism and idealogues. He's an incredibly brilliant man who is probably, at times, too smart for his own good. His passionate (and odd) defense of the Iraq War was largely based on his support and affiliation with the Iraqi Kurds. For this he was vilified by the Left (the very same people who rallied behind his established positions).Now that he's been asked to talk about Falwell on every major news network (in part to promote his new book), it's interesting to see the response he's getting from his detractors. Such is the life of a career contrarian.
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Create a main character in the film that is Burmese who is not either a sadistic killer or a helpless victim. Give him or her some quality lines to be spoken so that they are not a nameless face. If someone who is Burmese is treated as more than a "prop" actor, the bitching will stop...or at least lose some of it's backbone. Because judging by this trailer alone, it does have a little bit of a backbone.
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That trailer was pretty damn kick ass. I'd love to see some classic Rambo camoflage, and even some creepy night time scenes with the bad guys scared shitless.
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First with Rocky now with Rambo. Rocky fought a lot of black guys, because SURPRISE most top heavyweights are black. Rambo kills many races, including white people, but SURPRISE most war zones during the Rambo era have been in non-white countries.
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The violence looks like a lot of fun, but the heavy handed pro-christian stuff is absolutely cringe worthy and will spoil this movie completely if it's left in.
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But now I'm so pumped I can not describe how excited I am. I showed it to a handful of people of different age brackets and everyone of them had the same response. We all want to see this film right now!!! Late 2007 release forget about 2008!
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...talking about Falwell while simultaneously destroying the souless, Sean Hannity.http://tinyurl.com/2okd9o
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Watching the trailer i got flashbacks of Rambo 2 and 3 combined.
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blonde. With her almost crying in every line. She needs to die a squlchy kinda death and not more than 15 mins into the film.
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Can't die a quick enough death.
Anyway, this looks really good, I laughed outloud when the heads were flying and bodies were exploding. The first good laugh I had in a long time, I'm actually interested in this film now! I bet it'll all be cut out and saved for the "unrated edition" DVD. -
And the reactions on other sites like IMDb, this "trailer" is generating a lot of positive buzz. I've seen countless people say that before they saw the trailer they had no interest in seeing John Rambo, but were blown away, and will definitely see it when it comes out. This really has a chance of being a major hit.
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I followed JOHN RAMBO since the first rumors surfaced and after seeing this trailer, I can not wait for the feature. You've made this hard core RAMBO fan happy, Sly. Keep em coming!
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Thanks for the good words about my site. I always appreciated Hitchens, but he has really stepped up his game in the last year or so. First he rips into that audience of hyenas on the Bill Maher show, then proceeds to rip organized religion a new one. I have some other good vids of him to post on johntedwards.com. And BSB, def check out the Blue Dot video there; Carl Sagan always got it right (RIP).
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With Mark Levin as his VP: "GET OFF THE PHONE, YOU BIG DOPE!"
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CHEESY AWESOMENESS
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...could be this gory, and still get a mainstream release. I predict it will be chopped up to all hell, and we'll only be seeing fast cut snippets of the carnage on display here.
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This movie looks awesome, it looks like you have another hit on your hands!!
All i have to say is PLEASE DONT MAKE RAMBO DIE!! It would be too depressing. Rambo needs to find inner peace in the movie and I hope you can have him find that.
Also, please dont retire after this movie! you look good almost 50 we are in need of some good action movies. you should at least do a couple more good action movies after this!
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Sly, most people who are on these talkbacks are here just to complain, that's what these forums are for, for people to bitch about the shows, movies, etc. that they love. The greatest movies in the world will be bitched about relentlessly here for some minor detail that has little to do with the big picture. That's just what we do, that's our right as the fans buying the tickets. Now, that being said, the fucking almost 100 percent positive feedback on this trailor is so fucking rare, give yourself a pat on the back because although this is only a trailor you hit a home run with this one. As far as the Christian aspect and the "leave that to Mel Gibson" stuff flying around. Fuck em, Rambo needs that inner conflict up on the screen, it gives the character depth. Way to go, I'm looking forward to seeing the movie, and don't worry, as long as there's no sex, even with the beheadings, the 50 caliber shreddings, and the ripping out of throats all over the fucking place, you'll most likely get your R
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Get real. It's next to impossible to get an NC-17 for just violence. Seriously. Name ONE movie that was NC-17 and had NO nudity or sex.
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I assume you're implying that I somehow dodged the discussion between RevSick and Proman1984 because I'm intimidated by Proman and only dared show my face after their fight was over.
Could you be more disingenuous?
You and I agree on virtually nothing, but have you ever, and I mean EVER, seen me back down from an argument - political or otherwise - on these boards?
While I'm on the subject, could you please explain how one goes about making an action movie about the "war" in Burma, where in real life women are regularly raped by the military, without having a "brown man" as the rapist? And if the missionary happens to be a white woman, would it be less racist if the "brown man" only rapes brown women and saves the white women for a different fate? I'm old enough to remember the same tired argument back in 1985 when Rambo: First Blood Part II came out. Where were the assholes screaming about racism when Rambo III came out? The worst aspect of post-colonial theory is that it's routinely used to justify any and all atrocities committed in developing nations, while at the same time making it impossible to depict any violence where a representative of an Anglo-Saxon or western European nation is shown combatting said atrocites without screams of "racism!" or "imperialism!" being heard. If the representatives of those liberal democratic nations in the films happen to be black or non-caucasians, then those cries are strengthened with "Uncle Tom!" or "Quisling!"
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Am I one of the few that still feels like this sleeping dog should have stayed down? First off, I disagree with anyone saying anything about Sly's weight. He looks great, but to me the flaw is in the apparent story. I'm not feeling this Burma thing at all. Also, I feel a loss of any kind of connection to John Rambo at this point. All action, no heart.
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...did an awesome job on both Falwell and Hannity.
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I just watched this trailer and proceeded to show it to my brother and dad afterwards. We are all psyched about it. Looks awesome, also keep the Christian stuff in it!
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Sly,I'm there if you're HuaaaaAAAAAAaaarrrGGGGggggghhhhHHHHHH-ing.WEll,I'm as much there as the next laowei in China who sees it on sale on pirate dvd.Christ,it's not that I'm a bootlegger it's just that we have very little choice here.Being able able to find a Rocky Balboa on Christmas Day made small ex-pat community here even though I doubt anyone involved in the making will feel any sympathy.HUuuuuuuaaaAAAAAAArrrrrGGHHHHHHH!!
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Nice! I had a feeling you'd chime in. Good show, sir.
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Are you serious? Why would you find peace in death just because you are a "monster". Rambo uses his skills for "good", not pure evil.
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I registered just to post on how awesome that looked. One problem, why do I have to wait a whole YEAR!
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I was just mentioning this movie to my roommate last night, and we both agreed that the chances of this not sucking were about on par with the chances of the Dalai Lama converting to Radical Islam.
Then this thing comes out. This video bends me over, rips out my puckered bunghole, and shoves it down my throat. Then is starts beating about the head and face all the while screaming "How does it taste?! How does it taste you pre-judgemental, self-aggrandizing prick?!!!!"
And you know what, sir, It tastes pretty damn good, a little salty, but good.
Congrats Sly on what looks to be one hell of a movie. I'll be there opening day for sure. I can only hope you forgive my doubting you, and not rip out my trachea. I'll need it to eat that humble pie you'll surely be serving after the film. -
OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This could REALLY be the best action movie we've seen in 10 or 15 years. Rambo is an amazing character and the action looks great. Keep it up, Sly.
Oh, and VERY IMPORTANT: PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, KEEP THIS ONE A HARD R. NC-17, is not necessary, but please, for the credibility of the theme and the movie, keep this a very hard R. I'll be first in line, i promise. -
...I was hoping you'd show. There actually WAS a faint HhuuuuuAaAARRRGGGHHH!!! in the clip. Let's hope for more in the final movie. HuuuaaAAARRRGGHH!!!!
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For real '80s flavah, we need a mulleted arch-villain like Bolo Yeung. But I'll take this. I'm also critical of the loose-hanging t-shirts in this preview. Rambo was all about tank tops and headbands, and maybe a tarpuline poncho when it gets chilly. Another thing: his face has changed with age, hasn't it? His nose is round now. (Is that like how guys' ears keep growing into old age?) Anyway, the effect for me is like watching Rocky (6) Balboa wear a Rambo costume. But maybe that'll go away as I settle into John (4) Rambo for real when it's finally out. Big question: does Rambo die at the end, or is it more like Rocky 6, where he doesn't quite win, doesn't quite lose, but walks off into the sunset (which is how I predict Tony Soprano will go out).
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I tried to take this serious but the bloody kill scenes were so bloody extreme that I started bloody wince and bloody laugh at the same bloody time that I bloody accidentally closed the bloody preview ... must be bloody sign...this is bloody over the top turkey with its bloody head riped shot, (did I mention bloody?)sliced off that will make money on video...btw it made me think how Borat was bloody funny film
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Greetings from Wuxi,China.It's 1-03am and I must be crazy sitting at this computer as my girl has just returned from Shanghai and has just jumped into bed with a skimpy nightie on.I think it may be timne to stop worrying about whether that Joker pic is a fake and go and do my business with a Chinese mei nvi.Guys,I wish thee well..I shall post again tomorrow...er today.But now I must take care of a bit of HUuuuuuuuuAaaaAAAAAArrrrRRRRRGggggHHHHHHHHHHHHH!ing of my own.It's a long road.............when uurrrrr uurrrrrrrrnnn uuuurrrrr oooorrrrnnnn an idd eeeerrtttss wen thi terrrr yer drreeeeemms apartttt........
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Go for it,Sly! This is what we Rambo fans have always wanted,true action to the character. Don't pay attention to these pussys who badmouth you. Stay the course.
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Whoever said it wasn't the Rambo we wanted because he's a patriotic son of a gun or whatever... what the F.
Rambo is a reluctant killing machine. He's emotionally disturbed and scarred. He's not in it for the good old U S of A, he's in it for his brothers in green. He's in it for the oppressed. He's in it because it's what he does and what he is. And I LOVE the missionary angle. Adds a new complexity to his character. Stop being haters.
The trailer looks awesome.
Oh, and Proman is an idiot... anyone who tries to prove their point by saying "I hope your mother gets raped" doesn't deserve even this much of a response. But I had to pile on. That is all.
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NO WAY this will get an R unless it's toned down. Sorta makes the Die Hard PG13 controversy look silly by comparison! LOL!
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It was a cool action flick with a morally equivocal story. I still like the action sequences and the memorable one-liners :-)
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At least SEE the movies you're talking about. RAMBO III wasn't about "blowing up camel jockies", Rambo was helping the Afghans fight the Soviets.
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The sequels have nothing to say, but rehash. I think it's kinda sad for Sly to still cling to this character. Rocky is so much cooler.
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That was extreme. Looking forward to it.
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You can see the REAL Burma here:
http://tinyurl.com/39z7nx
As stated previously, I have been lucky enough to travel through Burma three times. I have many, many friends there. The Burmese people, regardless of their government, are the kindest, most gentle and most devoutly Buddhist people I have ever had the pleasure to meet.
This new Rambo film will only cheapen a complex political issue. It appears to me that few of you have any real knowledge of the country.
I liked Rocky Balboa and I liked the first two Rambo films, but I think that Mr. Stallone has picked the wrong war to fight.
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please sly, dont kill off rambo in the movie. it needs a positive message. killing him off would be VERY negative
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For example:The Evil DeadMan Bites DogHatchetHigh TensionStory of RickyAnd the original cuts of:The Boondock SaintsCaptivityCliffhanger
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"Attacking Soon" is going to get GRINDHOUSE-style laughs, which is where JOHN RAMBO belongs I guess. Ridiculously over-the-top (oop, no pun intended) violence can be tricky...do you want your audience to laugh or take it seriously? I hope you're not thinking SAVING PRIVATE RYAN for this one, because taking something like RAMBO seriously is really asking a lot. I realize we're getting a lot in a 3-minute piece, but right now it looks like you're looking for laughs. Which is fine.
At the same time, I don't remember Rambo being so talkative. If I were you, Sly, I'd sit down, rewatch COBRA, OVER THE TOP, LOCK UP, and the last two RAMBO movies and make sure you don't end up saying some unintentionally funny things while killing all these people.
Then again, I also want you to make the funniest movie ever made. COBRA is fucking hilarious.
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Nice try, but comparing a film like Blood Diamond to Rambo flicks is specious at best, which you are very well aware of.
Tools like proman1984 only scream about racism when it suits their own shallow political goals, hence the odd silence when it comes to First Blood and Rambo III in that regard. They are simply trying to score very cheap political points by using a boiled down version of post-colonial theory which simply doesn't hold water. Just because movies like this fuel real racists' worldviews (like your buddy, David Duke's) doesn't actually make the movies themselves racist in content, nor does it mean that the films create racists simply by being viewed. -
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No, but you're trying to sell.
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what a gripping ending it would be, and a perfect way to tie up the story for Rambo to finally be at peace with himself and Return to the United States in the end
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finally a new action film with some balls that isnt just trying to sell video games and action figures or pandering to idiot 13 year olds with too much time and money. THANK YOU, SLY!!!!
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I'm up for this film.Don't kill off Rambo.
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May 20, 2007 1:18:53 PM CDT
Got me just as pumped as the Rocky Balboa Trailers
by neil mccauleys crew
"You got any weapons?""Of course not""Then you're not gonna change a thing"
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But, I'm not the target audience. Why this gooey, fawning ass-kissing? it's worse than the retardo who approaches Stallone in a restaurant and screeches "I luuuuuuuuuuuuuv your movies!" You were asked to express opinions, not turn into teen girls.
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Is there any character that Stallone could play in the Sin City books that remain to be filmed? It's been a long time since I've read them, but it just occured to me that he's worked with Robert Rodriguez before on Spy Kids 3D, and frankly, he would seem right at home in Sin City.
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"We've seen it all already." I know Stallone has said there will be more blood and arrows, but I'm worried that the shock value of the HOLY SHIT moments in this footage will be lost if those are the only ones. Please, Sly, keep enough of it out of the public view so that when the movie's out, we shit ourselves all over again. Thanks!
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We shouldn't be surprised that a movie like this gets made. 1970s - America gets kicked out of Vietnam and lo a whole bunch of action movies gets made in the 80's to justify to the rest of the world how 'hard' America still is. Fast forward to now and Iraq. Stallone tries to resurrect his career by digging up his own grave and flogging the dead horse that is 'Rambo'.
I hope this isn't the start of another few years of dumb ass action movies blaming the (insert your bad guy stereotype here) for everything and some big dumb lunkhead solves everything at the point of a gun because 'he was misunderstood'.
I thought we'd learned something, moved along. Maybe not. Saying 'it's only entertainment' just isn't good enough any more. Just like you feel that we have to take responsibility for the mess we made in Iraq, we have to be responsible for what we pump out to the world in the guise of 'entertainment' as it's how we'll be judged as a civilisation.
If this is what some people call entertainment, then maybe we should just film live executions if that's what turns you on. It's as dumb as that. Go on, what's the oh so relevant storyline here other than as an excuse to show someone blowing someones head off for the 'entertainment value' of some lunkheads who will buy this shit and for Stallone pay off his mortgage/ex wives/kids/steroid bills/fines for steroid bills?
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Give the gore freaks what they want & they will go. I'm sick of video game gore. I want a story. I'll pass!
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like he always did. Man, this was brutal and I liked it. Rambo is back badder than ever. Can't wait.
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As did John McClane, Jack Bauer, Martin Riggs and Mad Max.Sly, please bring back Gabe the mountaineer next. I LOVE Cliffhanger!
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This ain't no date movie! Girls can go-go or watch something else. It's better to have realistic/overkilled violence than faking it harmless and clean.. Die hypocrites, die!!
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That is the best action I've seen in... possibly ever. John Rambo goes for the throat, literally. I can't wait to see this movie on a big ass screen with my pussy friends screaming and wincing around me. 2008, I'm there.
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Any good revenge flick usually tries to convince us that the end justifies the means. But here's hoping we don't have to sit through an hour of those bland missionaries being tortured in order to justify that level of gore.
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gettin' sick of Imperialist Christian crap, personally. but that's the way to sell it here in the US or its Asain 'territories'. Looks good aside from my personal views on religion.
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I'd enjoy killing commies as much as the next guy, but in the name of frackin baby Jesus?
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I love Rambo, so does my father, but... did you have to take the head of that guy? I mean, he's rambo, not fucking Superman.
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Just curious? Is Sly so pumped up on HGH that he still thinks it's the '80s?
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I stand corrected -- although Man Bites Dog did have nudity, you're right about the rest.
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I am definitely seeing this movie - it looks great. Now, if only Schwarzenegger would remake Commando by these standards...
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Cant wait for this one. Looks like a real treat. Many folks, including myself, thought Sly was washed up, but with that last Rocky and now the way this Rambo looks, he can go out as a winner.
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Would work, no? Anyway, what's funny about this trailer is that if it were cut differently and we were told it was lost footage from Rambo II we'da fell for it.
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That was fucking awesome!
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Listen to some of his Tracks from his Seagal Movie-Work. He delivered in the eighties and nineties and might do a great job if given the chance.
Reference: http://tinyurl.com/2qzqh3
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I agree with your response to Doc Pasusu. However, blaming Mel for the depiction of Jews in Passion of the Christ was baseless. It was BASED off of the BIBLE, which allows slavery, rape etc. You can blame Mel for believing in irrational crap but not the depiction. (I actually hope, somehow Rambo throws his cross on the ground and does some actual good, instead of saving some poor ignorant white Christian -yes I don't quite know the plot other than he saves some Christian missionaries? WTF )
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Will Stallone's next three films be "MARION COBRETTI," "JOSEPH DREDD" and "JOHN SPARTAN"?
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That was incredible. Seeing Rambo going totally unhinged is funny/scary/amazing.
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That is pretty hardcore..I'm glad they aren't going to pussy out with the violence...war is hell.
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Yeah, boy. You'll all be picking sesame seeds from the shit stains in your pants on opening night.
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it's gonna make people throw up, it's so awesome
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I just sat here and shouted that out loud. I don't think I've ever said those 2 words together. Bravo Mr Stallone you just got my attention. It's lokos awesome I'm a die hard Rocky fan but that looks awesome. I've long waited for a revival action films with 80's abandon and in the last few years it looks like we're getting it. I can't wait to see this...The guy in the front seat of the jeep disintergrated...he fucking disintergrated.
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...someone tell Stallone that his neo-con superman is the last thing the world needs right now.
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You parents wouldn't happen to own a newsagents/post office...?
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May 20, 2007 4:05:14 PM CDT
Sage Stallone had to go APESHIT when his dad sent this!
by joey_redballs
I briefly met Sage Stallone at the 2005 Chicago Flashback weekend, and I got the impression he likes sum messed-up stuff. This is the same guy who founded Grindhouse releasing for all the lost but not forgotten, bloody, grindhouse flicks. And you know Sly sent this video to his son, the gorehound, to get his opinion. I bet Sage went crazy-apeshit on the phone, in person, or however he got to react to his dad. Maybe it was Sage that advised or inspired his father to make such a gorey movie. Maybe Sage Stallone referred his dad as to which practical special effects make up company to go with? I'm sensing a Sage Stallone connection to this gore.
I haven't seen an action movie this gorey in I don't know how long. I will see this movie...but unless this is ALL of the gore in the entire film, it's going to get cut by the MPAA to get an R rating. Expect an UNrated DVD release. Maybe some theaters will grow sum balls and start showing NC-17 and/or Unrated movies...but because of varying community decency standards...I highly doubt it. -
I already commented on this but I just watched it again and have to repeat how great it looks! Well done Sly.
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The main character in Hell and Back was a very Rambo character. He was a one time special forces killing machine turn scruffy drifter who gets roped into killings a bunch of corrupt assholes over some dame (ie the same story as every other Sin City book only this time with a crazy vet).
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Rambo ripping out a guy's throat and throwing it on the ground? Awesome.
They should leave it that bloody. Market this as a Grindhouse-type gorefest. But since it's not Grindhouse, it's RAMBO, it will do very very very well marketed as a guy movie. Where guys will take their buddies, watch it multiple times, just for the "oh my fucking god!" moments of gore. Maybe even scream out 'DAMMNN" and such in the theatre. That's what this movie should be aimed at. -
You gotta be fucking kidding! Rough gay sex maybe but certainly no tits or other female nudity. Jeez.
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Dude, I loved Rocky Balboa and I think I might have to love John Rambo now. Holy crap. Dude, go all the way. I had no idea it was going to be like this. I'm there, first night. Love him doing the blacksmith stuff. Awesome.
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dont get me wrong. footage looks great. but why keep reprising old roles?
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Ye gods, the music.
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...as a film buyer, I see a bunch of distributor reels. They're usually awful and lame because a) they're selling for international and not all buyers speak English and b) they're never usually shown to audiences, since they're edited for worldwide, not local, sensibilities.
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What the hell are you talking about ? Some low life human is getting ready to rape the lady, should Rambo knock on the door dressed in a suit and say "excuse me, but the geneva convention forbid you to--" BLAM
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The history of human narrative is filled with recurring characters. In nearly all cultures a handful of characetrs are recycled time and time again in their folklores. Hercules, Lancelot, the Nordic, roman, egyptian gods. They're all just character archetypes used to tell a story. Christ, I doubt you ever heard a little nordic kid whining "dear god not another stupid Thor story".
John Rambo is a great depiction of a soldier abandonned by the country he sacrificed everything, including his soul, for. He's a walking paradox, a killing machine that only desires peace.
Using Iambeerface's logic (as well as that of a lot of talkbackers posting here) we should all just shoot ourselves in the heads now.
afterall, my characetrs been ariound sicne1980, what other possible stories could I have to tell.
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The history of human narrative is filled with recurring characters. In nearly all cultures a handful of characetrs are recycled time and time again in their folklores. Hercules, Lancelot, the Nordic, roman, egyptian gods. They're all just character archetypes used to tell a story. Christ, I doubt you ever heard a little nordic kid whining "dear god not another stupid Thor story".
John Rambo is a great depiction of a soldier abandonned by the country he sacrificed everything, including his soul, for. He's a walking paradox, a killing machine that only desires peace.
Using Iambeerface's logic (as well as that of a lot of talkbackers posting here) we should all just shoot ourselves in the heads now.
afterall, my characters been around since1980, what other possible stories could I have to tell?
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The violence here is totally justified, this is Rambo in his darkest hour, he tried for so long to be good, to be peaceful, but humanity is the disease, meet the cure. But he MUST sacrifice himself, he cannot live as such a monster, there must also be inner conflict, not just outer. At least leave the end ambiguous as to whether he lives or not, a setting sun, a badly injured Rambo, fade out to "It's a long Road".
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1) The hair looks bad....embarassingly bad.
2) He looks fat. Not, ive been living on bark and snake meat.
3) Im not mad at asians. He picked the wrong protagonists. Im mad at muslin extremists, and american politicians...extremists.
4) While it was good to see Darla from Angel again, her shaky "Ill sound upset if i sound like im in a helicopter" delivery sucked.
and 5).....he looks fat.
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absolute top class, thats exactlly what you want from rambo and what cinema has been missing for years!
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I wasnt sure how Rocky would be until i saw it and was shocked how good it was compared to the ones that came before that, excluding the first one. This is what Rambo should have been from the getgo. I would like to see this movie. The gore factor is more intense than the so called scary movies like hostel and movies of that genre. When the guy got blown away from the 50mm machine gun, i was shocked with a shit eating grin on my face when i saw how brutal it was, i guess what war really is.... BRUTAL. Im sure he will have to cut some scenes if what we saw here is any indication to get past the conservative censors at the MPAA. Then come out with the Directors Brutalized Cut on DVD later on, so we can see all the action the way it was intended.
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That all that awesome gore will make the theatrical release. But is sure will make one hell of an UNRATED DVD!!!
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he knocks a guys head off with a punch?? what?? is this a Rambo movie or Jason Vorhees?
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1. he is 2. come on 3. stupid 4. idiot 5. moron
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Honestly after the latest Rocky film I was beginning to doubt stallone's ability to portray a badass anymore. However after seeing those three and a half minutes of blissful chaos and rampant carnage i am going to have to hop back on the stallone bandwagon. Sometimes going to the well to many times can ruin the very core integrity of a film's legacy, but i can tell he's serious about this one. Now we can only pray to the movie gods that full product can outshine what we have already seen.
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You'll notice I spelled it Yak...as in I was trying to be all hip with a slang version of "talkbacker" as in this whole response to blood flying everywhere = free pass to nostalgic 80s cool.
Guess that backfires when someone named Yackbacker has seniority and wants to know what you mean. Sorry for being the ass on that one. Apologies.
I just find it funny that over at the TF boards, that movie is getting hammered for lines like "I'll drive, you shoot." but over here, Stallone is suddenly awesome because he paints the screen with 50 cal ketchup and uses sentences like "Killing is like breathing."
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pretty cool actually. It's like a horror movie in a way. He's reluctant because he knows he's a monster. Like he's aware he can turn into Michael Myers at a moment's notice. Love how bloody it is. The guy's head getting chopped off is great. THIS is a "grindhouse" movie.
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I love how Stallone is really embracing the internet marketing on Balboa and now Rambo. It's really well...sly.
Also love that Stallone is going in a Clint Eastwood like direction with the latter half of his career: building up his directing resume while trading in on his tough guy image. I know there are other stories in Sly just like Clint. Could Sly ever pull off a Bridges of Madison County? I don't know. But definitely could pull off an Unforgiven or Million Dollar Baby.
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Machine-gun toting Rambo Vs Truck Full Of Viets does equal blood pissing out the windows! GLORIOUS
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Dear Mr. Stallone, Unlike Rocky Balboa, John Rambo has less to do with age and has more to do about finding peace in the world. The constant search for belonging and peace has always been a driving force behind the films
If the world has passed him by; both figuratively and metaphorically, we must feel his pain and sympathize with him. We must understand the pain he has felt at losing his only friend (Col. Trautman). He has been unable to cope with his past, with the war, with the loss of his friends. His world and his life are practically gone. And then the conflict arises in Burma and Rambo must make a choice. Is he willing to venture back into the eye of the serpent? Is he willing to embrace the darkness within himself?
I think these are important questions and characterizations that should be addressed, because if we do not feel sympathy for the character, then the audience cannot believe in the actions of the character.
Through characterization and emotionally enriched scenes (which were plentiful in Rocky Balboa,) you can create beautiful and multi-dimensional characters out of John Rambo and the Christian Missionaries and add another dimension to the film, because the action is certainly top notch, both brutal and unforgiving!
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I'm a big fan. I'm in Cannes right know, and would love to gratefully shake your hand for what you've done in ROCKY BALBOA. I wish I could, and give you my feelings about this promo reel: please keep in mind that all of us in this talkback (I mean, minus the haters) are too excited and pumped up to make a wise judgement over that promo reel. The gore is great, BUT if you keep it with that "in your face" editing, you'll have just another excuse for the haters to go Team America on you. I've heard the movie had a decent budget, something around $50-60 million: I doubt you'd have the same (critical AND commercial) success than ROCKY BALBOA with the movie if the gore moments aren't handled VERY carefully. The people that turned their coats and praised BALBOA after all will be too happy to waste your chances to end with RAMBO in the same decent, rewarding way you did end with BALBOA. They're pissed because you prove them wrong, and since John J is a far more controversial character, I truly hope you'll find a way to blend both expectations: a hard R action movie for us, fans (which doesn't necessarily mean showing the 2nd guy EXPLODE!) and a gritty war drama for my dad. Take a look at the unrated RoboCop DVD: the guy who got melted by acid in the end didn't pass through the MPAA, but his death is still ten times more shocking than anything I saw in the 80's mainstream cinema.
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I had little hope for this film, but now i'm flipped 180 degrees. I greatly appreciate the depiction of violence, as many coddled first world brats forget about the suffering and carnage that goes on everyday around the world. John Rambo's psychological struggle being so evident in the clip is a great move, im glad to see that angle has been renewed (we all need to take a good hard look at what happens to a soldier in a modern war, and afterwards when he/she "returns" home)
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I wondered how Rambo was going to come out of retirement. I'm glad it will be done with a bang. I'm sure critics will kill this with their complaints of over the top gore but fans will not have it any other way. This is 80s action craziness and I love it. I wondered about the whole stupid chick going in to bring peace and prosperity crap with love angle but I think Rambo's lessons with the bow and knife will counter that nicely. Sly, I'm loving what i'm seeing so far.
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He didn't punch his head off; he's got a blade that he drops after he decapitates him. You can hear it when the scene changes, and barely see it fall at the bottom of the frame.
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and this feels nothing like First Blood. Which is a shame because that was a damn fine film. However, it does look cool.
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Every knows this'll bit cut to fuck on release!
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Being a 47 yo male I find this type of movie to be exactly what I would love to see. Great cinematography, great story and lots of testosterone. Great to see Stallone making a straight to the point movie.
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Gotta disagree with folks who are saying that real-world politics don't matter in the Rambo films, that Rambo's pure escapism. Why? He's better than that. To treat Rambo as a playstation-inspired trigger-happy killing machine is a waste of a great legacy. Rambo's an archetype now, the way Marshall Dillon or Jim Kirk became extensions of a certain kind of American ideal when they were created. And he's matured like a good port. Let him take on some hard political ambiguities. Sure, he's still a blunt instrument, an equalizing machine that clicks on when balances need to be restored. But Rambo's quiet moments of introspection are where the characer really shines - a man haunted by his nature, who's made an uneasy truce with the raging beast inside him. He's a Hannibal Barca, a Maximus for the modern age. I hope Rambo4 continues to explore these themes, and doesn't rely just on bloody mayhem. There's more evolution left for this character and franchise, let's hope Sly and the R4 backers see its potential beyond just the first-person-shooter set.
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Stallone did an amazing job with Rocky Balboa and seems to be doing the same with John Rambo. I love the pathos, humanity, and age that Stallone is showing these two characters in.
Please Stallone, make sure this movie stays a hard R.
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I thought the clip was pretty good overall with one exception - do we really need Rambo punching the head off the unsuspecting soldier? At least the rest of the film looks good but the "fakeness" of that scene hurts the rest of the film.
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Glad we are finally getting a action film that isnt holding back, and a great iconic action character in Rambo. For too long we have watered down movies to appeal to a wider audience and i'm sure a rambo film could've ended up that way, in fact i was half expecting it upon the news of another sequel. Well done to Stallone for staying true to the series .
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Great, great stuff, keep the film on track with that style of visuals both for locations and blood and guts. When John J. opens up with that 50 Cal machine gun and that guy flys apart it reminded me of some video from Afghanistan I've seen of snipers using 50cal sniper rifles. The same type of thing happens to a body, it goes bye bye. Loved Rocky Balboa and I'm sure this will be a great final episode of an awsome series. Keep up the great work Sly!
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Can't wait to see Rambo fight a vampire!
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Sly, I know we didn't see eye to eye on Rocky Balboa, and I'm not gonna lie, I have nothing invested in this franchise, but I gotta say, this looks pretty cool. It feels like Predator, without the actual Predator. I love how over the top it is, and what's even better is the casting of Julie Benz. I had the pleasure of speaking with her last week when she returned from the shoot in Thailand and she's just great. Nice choice! Looking forward to seeing these clips in their proper context. And don't let any of the talkbackers knock the long hair. You're lookin bad-ass, man. Keep on keepin' on and fighting the good fight.
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The 80's action & violence that we all grew up on, is back. Stallone! dont change a f**king thing.
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It's funny, the complaint about the white christians who are being killed and how this makes the asians look bad... because, there's the entire scenes showing the asians commiting genocide against each other... but you have to put in the white people cause white people don't notice the deaths of all the asians. Interesting. I know that this is a religous genocide... but the point isn't that it's christians being killed... it's that people are being killed over their religion and by the town fulls. Who can complain about Rambo being unfair... look who he helped in 3. People slaughtering defenseless people and Rambo finally doing something about it is what the movie is about. He said that he picked a current situation that is being ignored by the world. This is a good thing.
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I loved the action but please do not make it too hokey! I want to see the Rambo franchise have a nice ending like the Rocky one did.
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I'm a liberal I'm glad this movie is going to spread the word about the real situation that the US should be apart of... instead of this bullshit in Iraq fighting over their fucking oil. And for the record, Sly is a conservative, but if you look at tax brackets in 1980 you'll understand why big movies stars were conservatives. $215,400 - and over 70% FUCK THAT SHIT. I'm glad I'm not getting fucked and I don't agree with the rest of converatism, but I'm happy all my hard work isn't going to fucking taxes. Sorry, just responding to the bitch ass remark above calling this Neo-Con.
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In the scene where Rambo "seems" to punch the guy's head off, look closely, he actually cuts off the head with a machete and then drops the machete in one fast-fluid motion. Had no real leaning to see this originally, but after what I've seen, I definitely want to see it.
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Rambo has officially ventured over into near-Jason Voorhees-like killing machine status.....And I Love It! Not to say that the guy wasn't fairly unstoppable before, but damn was that brutal. I honestly was never really considering seeing this movie, even though i did love Rambo 1&2, until I just saw that trailer. It definitely does a great job of emulating the action & violence of the great 80's action flicks, and ultimately makes me wish that WAY more of the "action" movies (um, Smokin Aces/Crank/any other hyperaction/hyperbullshit movie that comes to mind) that come out nowadays would follow in those footsteps. I don't care what rating this movie gets; I'll be there opening day. Good job Sly.
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I've never seen anything so mesmerizing as this preview! One word: effin' wow! Okay, two words...
...the intensity of Rambo tearing that dude's throat out brought tears to my eyes...all kinds of disemboweling, throat-ripping, 50-cal pumpin' violence! Raw, energetic, and in your face...I'm gonna go see this epic at least 10 tens when it hits theaters!
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After seeing ROCKY BALBOA and now being treated to this JOHN RAMBO footage all I can say is that we are officially seeing a renaissance for Sylvester Stallone.
I LOVE these types of movies and have always been a fan of Stallone - if ANYONE is not pumped to see JOHN RAMBO then you are clearly a communist.
Now I am going to watch ROCKY BALBOA on DVD again and perhaps tonight fire up FIRST BLOOD to end the weekend on a positive note.
Thanks for sending the footage along Sly - count me in on opening night to see this bad boy - a few times! -
Assume the position.
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I wish I could say thank you in person! I saw the last Rocky & now will be seeing the last Rambo movie.
The previews look great!! Who cares what the media says, as long as you feel in your heart this is the way you wanted it to be, then that's the way it should be!
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I have been looking forward to this movie since I first heard about it, and the release of this clip has completely made me excited!!! I can't wait Stallone, you rock!
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Damn straight!! I can't wait.Sly, don't let the inevitable bitchy reviews get you down. We don't care whata bunch of media-state bitches think about Rambo. Nothing is OVER!!
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I am so tired of watching what is called an action film these days. I dearly hope this film will end the era of the pansie action heroes. Tom Cruise is NOT an action hero. Stallone is.
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I've never been excited about a Rambo movie. Until now. Holy shit this is gonna be so raw and awesome! YES!
And from the looks of it, it'll be a TOTAL trendsetter and role model for upcoming developing films. They'll get more raw, more...good.
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PG-13 Die Hard could learn a thing or two from R John Rambo.
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I have been a fan of both Rocky and Rambo since I was a little kid. The footage that I have just seen has made me almost piss myself! Rocky Balboa was such an acheivement and this looks to be more of the same. That being said the only request I have for it is to use more of Jerry Goldsmith's wonderful music. To me and many others I know the Rambo theme is as important to Rambo as Gonna Fly Now is to Rocky. Otherwise keep up the good work Sly and I absolutely CAN NOT WAIT TO SEE JOHN RAMBO!!!!!
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Seems like the old saying, in like a lamb and out like a lion. The clip was that way slow but when it started bam in your face. The power and heart of Rambo as only Sly can do. Being a fan of what he did with Rocky I feel from the short clip he has out done himself with John Rambo. A story with heart as well as action. Also it looks from the clip that this time Rambo goes down fighting the goodfight as a warrior and a hero. Time will tell but until then Godspeed Sly and all the best putting this movie together and making it all it can be. Way to go.
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This looks like the real Grindhouse. The 1980's Rambo movies, Moriarty was right, are basically live action GI Joe comic books. John Rambo looks pretty cool, but Sly if you're reading this, violence and action aside, this flick will stand or fall on the strength of its screenplay. Tell a great story and the people will come.
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...he's done in the last 30 years using the names of the characters he's played. So, next we should be expecting LINCOLN HAWK, huh?
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That may not make sense but when I saw that it felt like I was watching Stallone running around not Rambo. Whereas watching him play Rocky Balboa one more time I believed it was him. He looked old and really did a badass job by struggling to get back into shape this looked like he just grew out his hair and tied on the bandanna. I know this is a double edged sword for me because I always liked the Rocky character more than Rambo but I also think when asked which means more Stallone himself would have to say Rocky.
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Hello,
I am an average guy who was too young to be allowed to see the first Rambo movies (or Rocky). I have seen the previous movies and I enjoyed the character. Very complex and mis-understood. Also, a lot of great action. I am a fan.
That said, I really did not think you could pull this role off at this age. Rocky Balboa (hug fan) worked great for me because you played him at his current age and it was pretty believable once you watch the movie.
Rambo, I thought, was going a little far in trying to resurrect your classic roles. From the stills that leaked out it did not seem to fit you now.
That footage just proved my little "nobody" opinion so wrong it ain't even funny! That IS Rambo in our day retired and forced to kick ass one more time. You really nailed it from the footage I saw. I should not have doubted you and your chops to begin with.
So why read this or listen to what I have to say? because I, along with all the other talk backes, represent the average shmo who is going to be waiting in line to see this movie on opening weekend!!! Please keep the intensity that was in the footage and don't let them water this down!!! You will make many fans happy with this!
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Rambo isn't a young man anymore. Anything he can do to end the fight quickly leave less of a chance that he will be hurt or killed, and therefore unable to carry out the rest of the mission (saving the hostages). Although most movies show the bad guy shooting first, and the hero acting in self defense, in the real world it just isn't that way. The first rule of combat is strike first, and strike hard. A lone man against many HAS to strike first and hard, and as sneaky as possible to thin the herd.
If Stallone manages to get this on screen as is, I will be there opening day.
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Watching this trailer made me realize how much I miss the action movies from the 80's. I'm soooo glad that Stallone is revisiting this character and can't wait to see this when it gets released. What an awesome trailer!
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First off. Thank you so much for this footage from John Rambo. Rambo is a deeply complex and compelling character that DEMANDED a movie of this caliber. This short footage we wer so graciously allowed to view was 50 times better than any action in "Smokin' Aces", which was supposedly the action movie of year, or month, or whatever. Stallone taps in to what really makes up the war veteran, the underdog, the good cop, the devoted father, etc. (not so much a judge/cop, because that's fucking ridiculous to begin with) and really strikes a chord with any viewers of his films. And I'm not bullshitting just to tickle your balls for a giggle. You've done some serious character work, and you've excelled at it. You put pride into your passion projects, and it truly shows. The way you can make these pet projects come to fruition is something other actors only dream about (and directors!). You're waiting for it, so here it comes: Rocky Balboa dragged a little in the beginning, but you made that into a Rocky film truly to be proud to stop on. Or keep going...And honestly, I'm impressed in your handling on your personal life. You seem to really be a man of your word. I'm not against you or Bruce Willis or any other "action hero" actors revisiting these treasured characters from my childhood. For some, it's treason, but because it is done in a way that makes you actually feel like there is a story worth telling. First Blood, I actually studied in an English class (which was while studying, get this, the writing of Michel Foucalt.) It's a challenging movie, politically, to people born like my myself, without first hand knowledge of the treatment of Vietnam veterans upon coming home, but our generation is very well likely facing similar social problems in the future, and in a way, never has ceased having these problems. Rambo, as a character, is all about survival; he's good, they're bad. But then there's a deeper dichotomy there. Stallone has a talent, a very, very impressive knack to reach in to the mainstream and create some pretty remarkable and accessible flicks for our times. And not "our times" like that's a demeaning or unflattering put-down, but goddamn MODERN-DAY CLASSICS.
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Oh my God Mr. Stallone (If you are reading this..if not I know I sound like a huge dork and a dumb ass) ...you have me so frigging excited to see this movie...First of all I have been a huge fan my whole life and have kind of looked to you as an inspirational hero (I was born with cerebal palsy) and seeing all the characters you have written and portrayed has let a huge mark in my life. Yeah I guess I have idolized you the same way I have idolized Lou Ferrigno. But lets just say these past couple of years for me have been rough as both my parents have died in the span of three years (All before I have reached the age of 24), and sitting in the theatre watching Rocky Balboa (as dorky as it sounds) put my life in order. I was dwelling too much on the past with my two best friends once they have left. So thank you for the wonderful movie that was Rocky Balboa. But without going through too much of my life story I must say that First Blood was one of the movies that helped me through high school when I constantly got picked on for a handicapped mother and a speech problem due from the cerebal palsy and of course trying to stick up for myself led to them always throwing a punch or drawing first blood. I can go on and on about what your other movies have meant to me ranging from Over the Top to Victory. But I will stop and just say one thing:
This movie, which might not be as characterd riven as your other work.. looks FRIGGING GREAT!!!! About time we start getting some great action films back. Everything I am thinking has alreayd been said but I just wanted to thank you for making some truly great films and inspiring me to write (granted I am writing independent comics as of now) characters that have the same tones as the characters you have played. Keep up the great work. -
Excellent...this movie will rock!...
Dying to see John J. Rambo !!...
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Rambo is back and this will be the first Rambo Movie since the first!.. GO RAMBO!
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Sly's on a roll here.
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That preview of John Rambo indicates that the great action movies produced in the 80's can still be done today, but even better. I like the premise: a seasoned warrior whose found his own peace, near yet apart from conflict, forced, yet again, to unleash the inner-beast in order to save the ignorant but well-intentioned. This looks hard, tough, bloody and cool! It appears to have all that one expects in a "Rambo" movie! "Rambo, you not expendable!"
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I've watched the clip several times now and am excited now about seeing the movie. 2008 is too far away!! You did a great job with Rocky and now I know you'll do another great job. The clip is great. I don't know much about filming but I know what I like..and I like the music and the way it was shot. The ending "Stallone is John Rambo.......attacking soon" had me cheering. If this is a good indication of what to expect from the movie I'll be the first in line when it comes out. I hope you do another question/answer session like you did for Rocky. I was totally amazed at having one of my questions answered. After RB and now seeing this Rambo clip I seem to have a renewed energy to workout and get into shape. Thanks, I needed that. At 45, I wasn't sure if I could even though I wanted to. Thanks for the boost. And please keep it coming. You are a true legend with alot to offer moviegoers.
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Never seen a movie trailer that got me so interested in a movie. I know it's only a few minutes but it looks like this movie shows war as truly messy chaotic and violent, aka like it really is. It also shows Rambo in a position of many soldiers, believing violence and killing is bad, but knowing someone has to fight for the innocent and defenseless. When things get ugly, his training kicks in and he doesn't know himself for that time, just what to do next that comes from training and experience. It makes me think of Rambo as an every soldier kind of guy, just a whole lot more badass when the shit hits the fan.
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john rambo is badboy, can't stop, won't stop
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see this is what ive been waiting for, not a watered down version but the real deal
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Thihs looks like the best Rambo movie yet. I'm 31 and grew up with the series.
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Sly has got slapped with a minimal slap on the wrist (a
13 grand fine, whereas a a non-celebrity probably would've got 6 months jail) for importing HGH when visiting Australia earlier in February for the delayed release of the final Rocky film.
Stallone fined $2975 for banned hormones.
Monday May 21.
Hollywood star Sylvester Stallone has been fined $ Aus 2975 for bringing banned hormones into Australia. Deputy Chief Magistrate Paul Cloran also ordered Stallone to pay the prosecution costs of $Aus 10 000. The 60 year old actor had earlier pleaded guilty in the Downing Centre Local Court to importing 45 vials of human growth hormone and possessing four vials of testosterone. The magistrate said Stallone had tried to deceive customs officers by claiming to have a prescription for the human growth hormone, Jintropin, found in his luggage at Sydney airport in February.
He said Jintropin was not legally available for retail use in the United States and therefore could not be prescribed. He also referred to an interview Stallone had with customs officers in which he was asked why he took the human growth hormone. The actor had replied that as you got older, the pituitary gland slowed and you felt older. 'This stuff gives your body a boost and you feel and look good ; doing Rambo is hard work and I'm going to be in Thailand for a while. Where do you think I'm going to get this stuff there', Stallone said. Stallone stopped in Australia before travelling to Asia to work on his new Rambo film.
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This film is going to rape "Live Free or Die Hard."
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Feeding us this little morsal of what Stallone has been cooking up in his kitchen has restored my faith that another Rambo movie might be a good thing and just might deliver!
Not sure what this is, but it feels like a trailer. The first half shows us a John Rambo that is more in alignment with the Rambo that we saw in First Blood versus the last two movies. The 2nd half shows us Rambo in action.
I liked it and am excited by it. My only gripe is that I really didn't get who the bad guys were? I mean, I know them by site, but I would hope that through dialogue, there might be a short explanation telling us their story and why they are bad? Hope to see that in the finished trailer.
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well like Rambo? It's sort of takes you out of the film a little bittle. It's like if I was still wearing my baby blue corduroy OP shorts with knee high tube socks since 1984. Odd in deed.
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Heh. I can't type worth a damn.
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Please don't forget Sly!! :P
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Okay so we're at war with Islamic terrorists, right? What the hell is John Rambo doing fighting BURMA!!?
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I enjoy violence as much as the next man, but that was so over the top it's laughable. Punching someone's head off? For fuck's sake. That's straight out of Jason Takes Manhattan.
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But I do see your point.
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ok folks... I'm sorry but I am hate seeing you guys tear up Die Hard 4 just because it's PG-13. The violence in the Die Hard movies aren't what made them rated R. It was the language. The violence factor was always PG-13 type violence. You didn't see bodies getting splattered and throats being ripped out all zoomed in so you can see and feel and hear it as it's being ripped!! The violence was always PG-13 type violence!! So I have no doubt what Bruce has said about his movie is true. Die Hard 4 as far as action and violence will be right on track with the first 3. So please!! Quit knocking Die Hard 4 til you seen it. If you decide not to show up just because Bruce doesn't use the "F" word one more time than he's suppose to than you possibly could be missing out on a surprisingly good movie. John Rambo on the other hand!! Defenitaly looks like he's pulling no punches and giving everyone what they are asking for! Blood and guts close up!
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...I'll bet you thought I'd see the error of my ways when you brought up Passion. The fact is that I found it to be a tedious, disturbed mess of a film, but I didn't see the virulant anti-semitism that some of its critics claimed, at least not more than could be argued exists in the source material.
As for innuendo, what could you possibly mean? Is it that Holocaust revisionist convention in Iran which you defended not too long ago? You know, the one in which David Duke was one of the most honored guests and speakers?
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I would just lik to say that it seems there is a trend developing that Sly started... "Making sequels that try to top the first!" Every once in awhile it would happen by accident. Aliens, Terminator 2, Empire Strikes Back, Godfather 2 (arguably), and we all celibrated them as classics. Now it seems Hollywood is trying to develop a formula... start a trend...to figure out how to it... How to make a sequel that tops the first one! or at least is worth watching.... maintain quality standards. Which is good and bad! Good cause Hollywood will put out better sequels... sequels we may actually enjoy.... bad cause I hate trends!! If your heart ain't in it... If your just doing it to make a buck... it will eventually show in your art. Hollywood will eventually lose it's focus and we will see another Lethal Weapon movie alot of stupid humor and trying to be more violent than the first and it will show on the screen that hey just trying to hard to give us what they think we want rather than leave it up to the true artists to create true art.
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HOLY SHIT! about time we see Rambo use some of that special forces training ie ripping someones damn throat out, that he should haev been using with he fucked that town up. And then again later when he was all fucking nuts on Murdock. Then again i just pretend that he never set foot in the Afgan desert for the thrid one.. because wow.. bad, but this one. HOLY FUCK SLY!!!!
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please understand why I don't even try to d/l the clip! But also understand this: I went into RB with some trepidation, not wanting to get my hopes up. I came out thinking "The perfect bookend to the series."
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It's about time we got a great action flick!! Rambo4 might be the best action film of the decade..GOD BLESS SLY !!
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I'm tired, you want my $8+ bucks gimme more stuff like that. BTW Sly good move. You blew any reservations i had away.
R~
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How pimp was that?
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I never write anything, but I was browsing, im pissed that die hards pg fucking 13 and i see Rambo. The first Rambo is your best movie period. It is brilliant. Its not all out action, its just one man against the system. Realistically everything Rambo does can be done to survive in real life. Movies in the 70s were like that-realistic. Then the 80s came around and everybody started doing coke and lost their fuckin minds. So fuckin ignore 2 and 3 I say, yeah theyre fun but not pivotal to the story. I like the realistic violence youre going for here but dont go too over the top. I think the best parts of this preview were the quiet moments we see this haunted vet who has done things most people never dream in their worst nightmares, all he wants to do is live his life, but karma comes back to him. I really think you can have somethin special here, and I do like the violence, its jarring and disturbing, which come to think of it is the way of the 70s movies. I dont know if youll read this cause im waaay down here but I think what youve done here on the message boards is quite brilliant and it is apparent you havent lost touch with not just your fans here but with yourself.
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Rambo cuts it off with a machete, then drops the machete. How many times am I gonna have to say this before people KEEP griping about him punching someone's head off.
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THE one and only WHITE SHADOW! After Rambo gets throu turning bad guys into bloody chuncks, SHADOW will CHALENGE HIS ASS TO SOME ONE-ON-ONE! Rambo might be the real war zar, BUT SHADOW OWNS EVERYBODYS ASS ON THE COURT!
YOU DON`T KNOW SHADOW, YOU DON`T KNOW SHIT! (i`m tempted to say `google it, fucker` but i`m nicer than that.
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I love the look of this, when can I buy my ticket to see it. I love that it is very gory because war is extremely violent, way to go Sly for not sugar coating this picture even though if he wants the film to do well in theater he'll have to tone down the violence but I hope there is one awesome DVD release with an unrated version
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My jaw is still on the floor.
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Just how a movie should be!
That shit is Verhoven style violent for violent sakes and it looks fan fucking tastic! I can't believe it plus he's aged damned well (curse our stupid government from pissing the poor guy off over some drug - meh)
I will see this for sure, honestly looks like cheesey action crap - JUST HOW US 80's PEOPLE LIKE IT!
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Hey Sly, first Rocky's great return, now Rambo with more gore and carnage. Count me in, but work on that stunt double during the Jeep annihilation.
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I love this stuff Sly! Just don;t go too over the top... the editing room will help you put it all together. Welcome back once again!
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Ok.. I had to register on this site just to write my respone and reaction to this clip. I have been weary about the premise of reviving Rambo. I liked the originals and the way they were just pushed more and more to (and over) the limit. So I was very hesitant to this news, and feared a PG-13 (my ass) Rambo. But after I saw this footage - WOW. Now I cant wait for the film to come out. If the rest of the movie is as gritty, bloody and crazy as this clip - I will be screaming with joy in the cinema. Thank you for doing this the way it should be done. Cold, kick ass and totally wild. In the non pg-13 way. Please please please keep the crazyness of the film, and keep it uncensored!!! Cant wait!!
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Fucking glorious!
Can't fucking wait!
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1. Why is everyone on here stoked about the fact that this movie seems to show extreme violence i.e. someones throat getting torn out, head blown off by an oversized gun etc? If this is what gets you off, why don't you just go watch the online footage of some hostages having their heads cut off for real in Iraq? You people make me sick. No wonder the world is so fucked up.
2. In story terms, this is a real missed opportunity. Stallone could have made a great film about the troops returning home from Iraq and John Rambos reaction to all that, which still could have been action packed but also had something relevant to say in keeping with the first film. But no, let's find a small, far eastern country and do a 'Rambo rescues the hostages and kills the gooks' scenario. Duh!
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I couldn't have said it better.
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Hi mr Sly I am a fan writing from Oslo norway and i just saw your 3 min clips from the new rambo film, already n ow i can tell it´s a masterpiece. The best rambo film ever. You were a hero for all of us who lived through the cold war and you came back just when we needed you. We need your type to defend us the western world to set things right when the time has come for action. ANd the talking has stopped. But rambo was always a guy with the big heart and understanding, but enough is enough all you tyrants, listen mr Putin, Chavez, Burma facist and all other wannabee dictators, here we come
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OMFG! Come on. ROFL. Get a GRIP.
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What you have seen is violent yes but you have to freakin wait to see the movie cuz i do beleive that there is a huge message in this movie, there are some real bad ass places out there that we have no idea about and this might just be a taste of that, it may seem over the top but hey you aint seen some of the shit that happens in Burma the violence over there is real and probably is toned down in this clip, one more thing lighten up it's a movie, go watch Driving Miss Daisy that seems to be more to your liking.
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1.) Quicktime is excellent for viewing trailers. So stop whining, divx/xvid/avi/whatnot lovers. Now gimme the link to the HD 1080p trailer ;-)2.)To "metaluna" and "Shermdawg": you two are idiots. Liking gory action in a fictitious movie and viewing REAL tragic deaths are two completely different things. Jerks.3.) The movie definitely needs Jerry Goldsmith's score! At least some parts of it.
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I refer you to my earlier comment 'if it looks like a turkey...'. The only message this movie has is 'hey Sly, stop making dumb shit movies'.
How the damn hell you extrapolate that this movie has 'a message' after watching that footage is beyond me. If you think the message is 'there are some real bad ass places out there that we have no idea about and this might just be a taste of that' is just about the lamest excuse for a 'movie' I've ever witnessed. Mind you, it didn't stop him making the other dumb ass Rambo sequels. Excuse me for thinking the violence is somehow 'pretend' in Burma (and for the record it's MYANMAR and has been since 1988. Maybe I should refer to the USA as some English protectorate off the port bow, see how you like it) and that all I like to do is go watch Driving Miss Daisy, which I don't. I just like films that also engage my brain cells as well as excite me. Thank you but I don't think I shall 'freakin wait to see the movie'. -
1. You're right about the Quicktime liking. Very good. Full marks.
2. Unfortunately, not so with the 'Liking gory action in a fictitious movie and viewing REAL tragic deaths are two completely different things. Jerks.' comment. How sad.
Once again I refer you to my earlier comment about watching real gore in Iraq, which I am sure is right up your street and you have done already judging by what you scrape by as 'logic'. Like we can't tell. How sad it is that you don't think that screen violence in isolation has no causal effect in the world. You sir, are the 'jerk' and or 'idiot'. -
Your def getting my money. Finaly a action flick with some nuts. Keep up the good work Sly.
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...your seeming insistence that there is no difference between fictional movie violence and genuine snuff movies makes you the jerk.
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You said (and I quote):"Why is everyone on here stoked about the fact that this movie seems to show extreme violence [...]? If this is what gets you off, why don't you just go watch the online footage of some hostages having their heads cut off for real in Iraq?" (end quote)Fictitious movie violence = makes my day, real life violence = makes me sick. Simple as that.I hope you'll realize that movies have nothing in common with reality. I like to watch violence in movies BECAUSE IT IS NOT REAL!
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...jizzing myself, and slapping my monitors screen in a attempt to give fellow talkbackers a high five over images that don't need to be shown in a high profile film especially with what's going on in Iraq, and here at home.Now I will say, just because I agreed with metaluna's post, doesn't mean I always will. But he does have a point, that this film could have had a real message, given the current climate we're in. And it would have been a good move for Sly, but he's spent so much time conversing with us...well, you guys, it looks like he's catering to your wishes for blood and mayhem. When it could have been something more than that. More than blowing up and killing shit real good *chest bump* Now, I could be totally wrong, he coulda just slapped all of the "oh shit" moments in that trailer to start some good buzz by those of you who pitched a tent over that despite hating the outdoors, and there could be something more to the film. But I kinda doubt it. I do hope that this will be successful enough to warrant a sequel to UHF though, and maybe even another Hot Shots!
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Looks like the effects guys for Saving private Ryan did this stuff!
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... that's not quite what I am saying. I'm not 'seemingly insisting', Doc. What I am saying is that when you make a movie, you have a responsibility. I know YOU can tell the difference between reality and fiction, it's no excuse for mass murderers to go on gun rampages etc. I think Cagefighters reaction and the fact that he's obviously on his way out to Iraq (keep your head down buddy, come back safe) is a case in point. The last thing this world needs is shit like this movie and people like Cage (no offence man, seriously I just don't think it helps one iota you watching this pap) watching it, normalising the killing of faceless foreigners in the cause of some lame excuse to tell a story. Please stop divorcing what you watch on TV, in films and on the radio with the idea that it does not affect your attitude in life. I have kids round the corner where I live (and yes it's not the US of A) who think they're living in downtown LA, toting guns, acting like gangsta rappers, ruining families lives. Think that happened by accident? Where do you think they got the idea that it was cool to shoot people up, carry guns and have no respect? Yeah, the media. Get real, Doc. If it had no effect, you wouldn't watch it. Do you have any idea about psychology? Why the hell do you think we have ratings on movies?
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That we don't WANT to see more Iraq related stuff? I mean the airwaves are inundated with it...how about we base something off of something from a fictional stand point, and stop getting so damn political about everything and just ENJOY watching a frakkin' moving for a change?
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Ok maybe i think there might be a message here cuz of some things Stallone has already said about the movie and what it will be about, yeah we got a taste of the violence and all i am saying is that maybe that violence is more real then you think, but hey i dont know i aint ever been there and from the sounds of it either have you so stop being an ignorant fuck and reserve judement till you have actually seen the movie and who knows it might actually hit a nerve! oh and i will call it what ever the fuck i want "Burma"
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... out of three minutes all we got was a bunch of grotesque death, killing johnny foreigner and some lame plot about 'saving christian hostages'. That shit went out with mullets, padded shoulders and rolled up suit jacket sleeves. The airwaves are inundated with Iraq for a damn good reason. I appreciate that you might not want everything to have an Iraq link or theme (hell I don't either) but this is a high profile war movie, supposedly. Like I said earlier, it's a wasted opportunity. Sure, you'll probably get your OTT gory violence Rambo movie and it might make some money from the likes of many on here who like this dumb shit, but it'd made a shit load more money if it was a bit smarter because at the end of the day, that's all that matters to the producers, the obvious buck. This'll go Blockbuster bargain bin quicker than you can say 'Caddyshack 3, Revenge of the Beaver'!
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Im really looking forward to a new Rambo. The last Rocky was really impressive; the best since the first one. So I hope you've managed to update Rambo to a 2007 version. It looks rather gory on the trailer, but it doesn't mather - Rambo is a killing machine when pushed. I would like to say a couple of things that I really liked; the fact that the action is set to Burma - great choice. A forgotten conflict that needs the worlds attention. But also then needs to be treated serious, even though its an actionfilm. And - I loved the music that was used in the trailer. Gives a different a darker mood then the music in previous Rambo films. I hope you decide to use this music/style on the finished film. Looking forward to see it! Best, VideoDrome from Norway. :)
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As a child, my brother and I were very much into the 80s action films and their stars. Our rooms were filled wall to wall with posters of Rambo, Cobra, the Terminator, Aliens, etc., and to see that we will have an opportunity to relive this era of our lives is very exciting. I would like to commend the creators of this film (what I have seen from it), in honoring the feel and look of the film. It is nice to know that John is out there still giving a damn about the little man...I had reservations about this film when I heard that it was being made. I was still going to go see it, but did not have much hope for it. I must say that I no longer have these feelings. I look forward to going to see it with my brother...we watched First Blood together hundreds of times when we were kids...I can remember the day my dad brought home a VCR, and we the first film we watched together was First Blood...What I hope for from this film, is more back story of what John Rambo has been up to in all of these years. The action is always great, but what separated First Blood from the rest to the story is the last seen of the movie, when we understand that he is more than a killing machine, he is a man who wants to be at peace , but is always pushed by outside stimuli...So if you do see this Mr. Stallone, please make sure that we see this side of him, and again congrats and good luck.
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metaluna... YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!!It was a gopher! ;)
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Rambo's a hero from my youth. I have no problem with violence (that's what Rambo's about), but this is WAY over the top! Leave the beheading, throat ripping, and disembowling out! Yes, this needs to be an R-movie, but don't go this extreme! Killing has always been something Rambo is FORCED into...not something he enjoys. This could turn this flick into a cheap, exploitive horror movie. Don't do this to such a beloved character! My dad is retired special forces and this would make him cringe. Leave Rambo his humanity!
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I've always liked Rambo, and this one shows a different, wiser and ferocious side of John Rambo. In the first movie, Rambo killed in defense and in confusion, in the second, he killed to save his compadres. In this one, there looks to be some deeper motivation. The violence looks good, but Rambo as a character looks to have changed, to have matured quite a bit. I hope the movie shows a bit of his development as a character. I mean, Rambo has a real job! Whoa.
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I'm looking forward Sly'd next project: "Stop, or my mom will fuck-up your day"
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I'm looking forward to Sly's next project: "Stop, or my mom will fuck-up your day"
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That's some brutal stuff! The footage is kinda grainy, it has that late 70s-early 80s underground movie kinda appeal to it. I like how the one guy recites the prayer of St. Francis, and at the 'dying' part, Rambo does his stuff. But where's the token russian general?
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Kudos Sly,..your right on the money ,...if your going to do it push it to the edge,....is there any way we can CGI Richard Crenna in there,...his monologe delivery will be something I miss,...."Trautman: I don't think you understand. I didn't come to rescue Rambo from you. I came here to rescue you from him.
Teasle: Well, we all appreciate your concern Colonel, I will try to be extra careful!
Trautman: You picked the wrong man to push.
Teasle: No, Trautman, HE picked the wrong man.
Trautman: That boy's a heart attack! He may be the best the Special Forces ever produced. Whatever you're planning to throw at him here, he's been through a whole lot worse, in lot worse places than this. I'm just amazed he allowed any of your posse to live.
Teasle: Is that right?
Trautman: Strictly speaking, he slipped up. You're lucky to be breathing.
Teasle: That's just great. Colonel, you came out here to find out why one of your machines blew a gasket!
Trautman: You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In Vietnam his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well Rambo was the best. ",.....
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In case you haven't noticed, violence existed long before the invention of Cinema. Does film influence people? Yes, as do an infinite number of other things, so quit your whining, because this is Rambo motherfucker, and it looks like Stallone is gonna deliver, and that's all that matters.
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...is Rambo pulling the nads off a giant f*cking robot.
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We might as well start talking about the inevitable UHF sequel.
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So killing is all good fun as long as its from a distance and there isn't much blood? Please leave the posting to people who have a clue.
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The prayer is the prayer of St. Francis. It's also a popular hymn at Christian masses. I'm guessing that the guy who says it is like the leader of the missionaries, and they say it together before their drip up (down?)river. But here, they juxtapose it against Rambo's mayhem, because it's like, funny and shit.
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Give Trautman a good mention...he was Rambo's mentor and should NOT be forgotten!
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This footage was refreshing to see for this old conservative-friendly libertarian. I'm not sure 2000's Hollywood will approve of the violence, but who cares what they think. I'm hopeful there will be a good story to go along with the action. That's the key. Don't know if you can top the first film, but this could be a close second if you play your cards right. For my money, Rocky Balboa was worthy of the first two or three Rocky's, and maybe this film will do the same thing. I'm a bigger Rocky fan, but you've got my money for the 4th Rambo installment. BTW, Rocky Balboa may not have been an Oscar contender, but it was a fantastic follow up. Take care, Sly. Tylermo
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The reason we have ratings - at least in the United States - is so parents can have a guideline as to what the MPAA thinks is suitable for certain age groups. I don't know what country you're from (maybe if you came clean about that it would be easier to discuss it) but I know that in some countries it's not merely a suggestion, but an actual rule as to who gets to see what in a movie theater.
As for the example of your neighbors' kids thinking they're in South Central, it's poorly chosen. If they indeed are kids, then perhaps their parents neglected to follow guidelines as to what is suitable for them. Naturally children are more susceptible to the influence of media than adults with a lifetime of experience behind them. So what? There is also something known as free will - especially when it somes to adults. I, for example, loathe movies like Hostel and the Saw series because I find them to truly be "torture porn", with the only appeal being the outrageous gore content. However, I would never ban them or claim that the filmmakers had "a responsibility" to anyone in terms of the films they make, even if I personally find them reprehensible.
Do I enjoy the idea of seeing an over-the-top hero on film deliver violent justice to perpetrators of genocide? Hell yes. Do I give a shit what ethnic background the hero or the criminals have? Hell no. Good and evil comes in all shapes, sizes and colors. Sure, a nutty action flick can't be anything BUT simplistic and much too cozy when touching upon a real subject matter, but sometimes it's just nice to enjoy the cathartic release of seeing old-fashioned justice being served to those who deserve it. Does this mean that I view the primary world (ours) as simplistically as the secondary one (the film)? Of course not. The world is full of dummies who watch, read and listen to nothing other than idiotic, simplistic movies books and music, but should these things be banned or cease to be made for that reason so that the rest of us can't enjoy them every now and then? Hell no.
You need to take a good long look at yourself and your values, metaluna. If your immediate impulse is to ban something or view it as detrimental to people in general merely because it doesn't cater to your particular tastes or sensibilities, then you need to question how you define democracy and free speech. -
Not what i was expecting, not at all, i am happy and pissed off that i have to wait another year to actually see the full movie. It did have a very Grindhouse feel to it but i am guessing thats either cuz Stallone put it together kinda fast and it's just a real ruff cut or thats the look he is going for, either way it's awesome, i'm hoping that troutman is seen in a picture in Rambo's room or somthing to still tie him to the franshise.
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...it's relevant in the sense that my sanctimon-o-meter went through the roof when I read your post about "brown people" since I recall your stand on that particular conference, which was filled with racists and revisionists. That's why I mentioned it.
As for third positionism (since you brought it up - twice), you are a prime example of it on the grassroots level. It's not so much a cohesive movement as a political stance which considers any and all enemies of modern liberal democracies to be preferable to the evils of the west. Hence, you get racist, right-wing extremists like David Duke expressing admiration for fundamentalist islamist methods and for black racists like Robert Mugabe (who himself has expressed admiration for Hitler). You also get left-wing extremists who express sympathy for the Confederacy, doubt official statistics of dead civilians and atrocites in Axis-occupied countries during WWII, and say Slobodan Milosevic got a bad rap. These scumbags have always been at each others' throats, and would be now as well if it weren't for the fact that they've understood that the biggest threat to them is western, liberal democratic values. For this reason they seek to use any and all measures to erode confidence in accepted historical truths, equate (at the very least) said democracies with the most vicious, brutal and genocidal regimes in human history, and relativize every conceivable ill conceived by non-democratic nations.
For most people, the old paraphrased adage "those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it" is a warning. For third positionists, it's a fervent hope.
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Could this mean that the good old gory glory concept is coming back? Or is this a fond hardcore farewell, from one of the bloodiest and most brutal characters in modern movie history.
Who knows? But I simply can`t wait to see Rambo on another machinegun killingspree in some jungel "over there". This trailer does indeed look promising and brings back fond memories of the pulp movies I grew up with in the eighties. And wouldn`t it be nice if we got a last treat from the ultimate eighties action hero. I think wer`e in for something good. -
I love how Nolan is treating the source material; he's making it darker and more realistic, and casting Heath Ledger as the boat? Ingenious. It will be the best of all the movies.
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Not Col. Trautman but another Colonel - Sam Elliot is good in my book.
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May 21, 2007 10:21:48 AM CDT
It looked like a GRINDHOUSE Trailer! Nice and gritty...
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Can't say I didn't enjoy it, though. Back to the basics.
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Man, that made my day. I'm waiting for something like that for a long time! PG-13 my ass! Now give me Cobra with this kind of violence and we're done. I hope this movie make a new trend of R action movies all over again!
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A naturally graying Rambo would've been even cooler and more realistic. That dye job is obvious, and it's also obvious that the character John Rambo wouldn't waste time on such vanities. That said, the shot of him rising up behind the enemy was...chill inducing.
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It's even more interesting that BSB starts to bring that stuff up in a Rambo TB after his first post loudly declares that he "JUST JERKED OFF TO THAT TRAILER".Umm...OK.
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If you look you will see the greys in Rambo's hair...
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Well, Rambo II was supposed to be the most violent movie of the series, but this one eeeee! maybe too much violent?
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May 21, 2007 10:53:54 AM CDT
It looks like the same visual quality as "First Blood".
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I hope that is on purpose. I really like the "look" of the first and always thought that the other movies got too prettied up by Hollowwood. Like Moriarty was saying, he became a superhero.
This looks like more grounded and has the realistic "blood and guts" of actual combat.
Yo Sly, I like how you toned done the character for this one.
It looks great. I'll be seeing it in the theater.
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Sorry. Toned down the character.
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...brokedick's statesman-like makeover sure went down the toilet in a hurry, didn't it, MNG? "Firstly, I will not resort to childish and immature name-calling..." ....... "You're a fucking tool not even worth debating."
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Although I do understand Metaluna's standpoint regarding the issue of violence, to some degree, I personally believe that although film makers have a certain amount of responsibilty, they must also be able to share their own beliefs and point of view.
If Mr. Stallone believes the story of genocide in Burma is worth telling, than we as an audience must give him the ability to tell that story and then decide whether it was persuasive or exploitive.
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I'm likin' it !!!!!!!!!
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I never mentioned outright banning the likes of Rambo anywhere. Where and how did you come to that conclusion? I hate censorship, but I hate irresponsible film makers even more. My example of kids in the neighbourhood is perfectly relevant. It's dumb shit gun toting rap culture that spawned the crud they aspire to. Where did they get that from? Smoke signals? Did they invent it? No, they watched it in TV and in films. And yes, they are kids and their parents cannot compete with flashy money and power at the end of a gun images and lifestyles. How you seem to gloss over the fact that some people are influenced by what they see is frankly amazing.
I'm not the one who needs to take a good long look at my values, Doc. You're so disgusted by the likes of Hostel and yet it's perfectly a ok to watch John Rambo blow the fuck out of people too in similar graphic scenes. Double standards. And for the record, I'm from the UK, not that it matters. -
I was pretty unenthused at first, the trailer started out pretty groggy, but when it finally hit the 2:15 makr, and you knocked that guys head right off his torso, you became my #1 hero all over again! I loved the blood, guts, and gore...I agree completely that there hasn't been an action flick with this many guts in a long time! We really needed this, Sly! I can't wait to go see it when it his theatres! Awesome job man, really! I signed up for AICN just so I could tell you this! You rock!
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This is the one that completes the series, and everyone must be happy of the circle it travled to get here.
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will appear in this movie, kinda like Obi Wan's guidance voice to Luke in "Empire." Trautman's voice will tell Rambo, "KILL FOR JESUS! JESUS WANTS YOU TO KILL!!"
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I think that we all need a movie like this. If nothing else, to release the tension that traffic gives us.
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author of "First Blood," probably watched this at home, then looked at the floor and shook his head slowly. But I loved it. And I loved Morrell's book (and most of his other stuff, too). Say, in this one, will Rambo's knife be the size of a sword?
I understand (and agree) that most movies are only as good as their bad guys. But let's face it, in real life, what are the chances that Rambo and the main bad guy would have a lot of time to interact? This would have to be one of those times where everything we know about the villain will come from what he does to other people, like the missionaries, not what he does or says to Rambo. And I hope at some point in the film, Rambo tells that main girl she whines too damn much, and she's not ready to be doing whatever it is she thinks she's doing out there. Hey didn't you love it when Rambo tore that guys throat out, then (as if it weren't enough) he SHOVES the dude to the floor. Nice touch. -
Great!!!!!!!!!!! Great!!!!!!!!!!! Great!!!!!!!!!!! Great!!!!!!!!!!! Great!!!!!!!!!!!
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i admit, i was like, oh no, not again, not after rocky, please no....
i have to say, i'm not that into gore, but it DOES it for me.. it actually makes me want to see it, it looks like it's going to be a serious, no fucking around movie for the true fans and the new fans. can't wait- you got my $11.50! -
Hi Sly.It's me again - Security 23.I was posting on Your Q&A I was at Leicester Square on Rocky Balboa premiere.I was screaming 'I love You Sly' and I am sure You heard me.You were so close...Taht was THE BEST day of my all life...See You on live...My biggest dream... I am Your biggest fan EVER !!! I wrote this post last time how much You mean in my life...YOU ARE THE BEST !!! I LOVE YOU MAN !!! I LOVED ROCKY BALBOA . I've seen like 23 times arleady.It is MASTERPIECE...I love all Your movies anyway... and finally-MAN this footage is ABSOLUTELY THE BEST INDEED!!! IT IS FANTASTIC!!! I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE ALL MOVIE !!! I KEEP WATCHING THIS FOOTAGE ALL THE TIME.YOU ARE THE BEST SLY.KEEP GREAT JOB...
All the best for You
Regards to all talkbackers- Sly's fans -
"Yo Rocko! Yo Sly!" - Eddie Murphy RAW
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You know the cute missionary girl? Her name in the movie is Jessica TEASLE. That's right. She's Han's Gruber's niece. And at the end there will be a fistfight, followed by heated reconciliatory lovemaking, then a throat-tearing.
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I really think all the violence potrays Rambo as a very sadistic person - and that's not the message is it....so rather than adding more blood and gore tone it down a bit and bring forth the story....
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I really think all the violence potrays Rambo as a very sadistic person - and that's not the message is it....so rather than adding more blood and gore tone it down a bit and bring forth the story....
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I really think all the violence potrays Rambo as a very sadistic person - and that's not the message is it....so rather than adding more blood and gore tone it down a bit and bring forth the story....
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I love Sly, too, but wow zip up your pants :)
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Bring it on Sly! Please ignore the pansies and conservative watch dog groups that are inevitably going to bitch and moan about this. Just keep this movie what it looks like it already is... brilliant with no holds barred action! Oh and bonus points having Julie Benz! Darla is so hott!!
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The main villain in Rambo will be played by none other than Pedro Lovell.
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The footage is great. It does show more bloody and gory violence than the 80s mainstream movies, but that's okay. But to make it stay in line with the other Rambo movies, it needs the same style of music and Goldsmith's themes.
At the moment it looks and sounds like Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down and Tears of the Sun. Depressing and gory, but not as entertaining as the first three. Using Goldsmith's music, which is heroic and fun, it could really turn out to be a fantastic sequel and/or finale. -
"Holy sh*t! You just killed a helicopter with a police car!"
"I was outta bullets. Besides, killing is as easy as breathin' when you get pushed."
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Jesus Christ. It's one thing to build up a tense moment and leave the actual death to one's imagination... it's an entirely different thing to throw 100 gallons of guts in someone's lap. I'd expect this sort of thing in a Grindhouse style movie, as a cartoon effect. But this is drawn up with a lot of realism... I even thought it was too much in Pan's Labyrinth. Did we really need to see that guy's face cave in? Not really, but it sure looks "cool" Sorry, not my cup of tea.
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For one reason: $20 million. That's the most an NC-17 movie has EVER made. The fact is that most theater chains will refuse an NC-17 movie period, and I'm assuming that Stallone is in this to make money.
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Don't listen to the anti-gore haters, Sly! We want our graphic violence...most people do. In fact, you might as well go all the way and have people smoking also.
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If this is any indication as to what we can actually expect from the film, then thank you!! Its about damn time that a hard-ass action flick was made again. I was so excited by what I saw that I bothered to create an account and post, which, despite daily viewing this site for years, I have never felt the need to do. Just please dont water this flick down!
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Just kidding...well, maybe not. Anyhoo, Rambo footage looks fucking great. Stick to your guns and keep this shit hardcore.
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What was the last hard ass action flick that had people exploding with that amount of blood and gore? I have no problem with the jeep scene, but I can't remember any mainstream action movie to contain that much gore.
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It must be, right? I would love to see this in a Double Feature with "Thanksgiving" or "Machete".
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sickest thing I EVER saw in ANY movie. The violence in the JOHN RAMBO clip is nowhere near that sick shit. IRREVERSIBLE really depressed me and made me feel guilty. Hate that movie.
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did he just punch that guys head off?
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for making Rambo freakin Rambo, not a PC fluff ball. thank god someone has the guts..
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I didn't need to see that guy's face get caved in, either, but it helped set up what a prick that general guy was. I think that's why the interrogation and beating was drawn out like that. Sure, it could have just been "bang, you're dead," but it had more impact when he kills them after confirming that they were just a couple guys hunting in the woods after all. Here, with Rambo, the violence looks "realistic," but when it plays out so fast, and if there's too much of it, it'll be more cartoony than anything. I don't have a prob with it here. He's Rambo. That's his JOB, man.
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Sweet, it looks like one of those Missing in Action movies
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I wasn't expecting to enjoy this. Even after the first shot of Rambo's face, I thought, "He just looks too old." The footage then seemed to guide me into realizing the character. He's not supposed to be young. This is Old Man Rambo, going into the shit to help rescue some young, dumb kids. Nice.
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I did allow for the possibility that you weren't advocating censorship, but maybe a "not-making" of such films.
The reason I hate movies like Hostel is because the sickening violence is applied to what for all intents and purposes are the protagonists of the film. The gore is not only intended as prurient, exploitative pleasure, but is the sole purpose of the films. It doesn't matter who's being tortured to death, so long as someone is being tortured. Watching Rambo splat a bad guy pleases me very much - not because it's an anonymous human organism being pulped, but because it's an evil, vicious scumbag who - presumably - was recently engaged in raping and/or killing helpless innocents who's getting gibbed. This provides me with cheap, shallow satisfaction and is cathartic to me. This doesn't mean that the film in any way affects how I view the complexities of the world at large.
I never said that your neighborhood kids weren't affected by what they watch or listen to. The difference between you and me is that you seem to advocate some sort of collective action of ill-defined measures to deal with the problem whereas I see the parents as being responsible for what their kids watch and listen to, and that adults shouldn't be restricted because some parents are idiots. The reason normal parents don't let their young children watch torture horror and porn, go to online snuff sites or listen to drug/violence/sexist-promoting music is because most of them can't handle it due to a lack of lifetime experience, maturity and frames of reference. Kids are more impressionable because they ARE kids.
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Actually seemed fairly happy with the direction the movie series took on the first blood commentary.
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going to apologise for helping bring the Taliban to power?
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Apologies for ever doubting. Definitely not marketed for mass appeal - if the full length version of this clip hits the theaters, the action aficionados are going to worship Sly (again). Grisled(?) old war veteran who's jumping into the meat grinder and doing what he's gotta' do (no pun intended) to get the job done. Fantastic.
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...ends up reviewing this flick, my head might explode - in a good way.
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Somebody mentioned the conservative watchdog groups as a possible hurdle to the film. Maybe, but I lay you money there'll be more complaints from the liberal side of the aisle. Mind you, this is not always the case but...liberal pop culture nay sayers typically get pissy about gun violence, cigarette smoking, and jesus movies. conservative movie nay-sayers usually get worked up about nudity, sex, violence(only if it's satanic horror films, and Pulp Fiction language fests), language(particularly the F word and G.D.), and drug usage. As for movies causing people to go on shooting sprees, etc....bullshit(for the most part). You don't need statistics to prove this, just common sense. It was the same argument with the Dungeons and Dragons roleplaying game, and Ozzy and Judas Priest songs making people commit suicide. For every one person who did it(who probably had other f*cked up sh*t going on) ,there were hundreds of thousands, or millions who played or listened to the same stuff, and didn't do it. End of story.
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In the house! Hard to judge a movie on three minutes but it looks like a dramatic interpretation of Hot Shots part Deux
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This is John Fucking rambo. He eats pieces of shit like you for breakfast. You want story, go read shakespeare. The action shown so far is incredible. Mostly stuff that's never been done before. And I hope that SLY keeps it in. Incredibly awesome clip sly. Bravo.
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I kind of agree with your point. I haven't seen Hostel, but that's how I feel about the Saw movies. I want to like the bad guy, Jigsaw, and the story plays out like you're supposed to sympathize or understand why he does what he does. But after Saw III, I knew Jigsaw wasn't any different than his protege, Amanda (who made traps that people couldn't get out of). Jigsaw was no better because the risk of death in his traps was so great that even if you survived, it probably wouldn't be for long. I'm not squeamish about gore, and if your horror story calls for it, like Saw, okay. But it treads close to a celebration of violence. Unlike back in the day, when we all knew Jason and Freddie were crazy and clearly in the wrong, but damn, they made it fun to watch people die.
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First I will start by saying I loved Rocky Balboa. I grew up with both Rocky and Rambo. Call me a wimp, but I cried watching Rocky Balboa, and it was more about the journey of Rocky and not the fight so much.
So onto Rambo. This footage had me jumping out of my seat and showing everyone in the office the footage of Rambo in the jeep and blowing the guy to chunks of meat.
I am also working on a Warner Bros. film in NC, so everyone here are movie nuts!!!!
Just like Rocky this will deliver classic Stallone, but with emotions on the other end of spectrum from Rocky. I feel unlike Rocky, John Rambo may save the day, but meet his maker in the end. I hope he walks away like the end of Rambo 2 into the sunset!!
You go Sly!!!!! Fuck Hollywood and make your movies. You know what the audience wants!!!
God Bless!
Shaun
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I am a Stallone fan and loved the first 2 Rambo movies, not so much the 3rd. This footage would get me to see the movie. I hope that the story is well told. But this seems to be in the vein of the 2nd movie which I enjoyed a great deal. Keep up the good work.
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Hey Sly....first of all I have to say....u LOOK GREAT!! Absolutely awesome. I've seen all of your films...and yes all...:) And I have to say it is great to see you back doing movies u kick butt in. Rambo IV looks like it's going to be a huge hit. The trailer looks great....the score sounds great (from what we can hear) and the scene where u are in the background rising up..b4 u knock the dude out is CLASSIC. The only thing...it is VERY violent. With Columbine and other school massacres that have occured...it can be troublesome to see frustrations taken out with a machine gun (but then again...John Rambo is a one man killing machine...he is his own army)...so other than that concern..I think the movies looks GREAT and u better believe, my hubby & I will be watching this in the theatre on opening day!!!
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He's in this, right? No? Will Rambo do an 'emo' dance in the middle of the film? Does he snarkily whisper, "Now dig on this," before he saws that guy's head off?
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nice. looks like rambo is back in action. really exciting teaser. love the drama. the quite moments of rambo's life in his new home. shooting fish with arrows. then, being drawn into yet another war. the action looks sick. nice move by choppin' the head off, then whippin' the gun on the driver. classic. i have some worries about the acting, however. while all looks solid, some moments seemed a bit heavy handed. but, hard to say. i love the 80's logo, as well. you should carry that theme. reagrdless, mr. stallone, congrats on your interesting career resurgence. i wish you much success. and, this movie looks like it's got potential to kick major ass. don't listen to the wet blankets. keep the action heavy!!!
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I think that the violence was suitably realistic, as long as it isn't glorified. The main thing that worked with a character like John Rambo was that he didn't speak much and that he conveyed alot through non-verbal means, so perhaps less is more in this case too. Mr.Sly has probably already looked at sh!tloads of stuff for reference, but I would suggest Daniel Day Lewis in Last of the Mohicans and Clint Eastwood in his cowboy flicks especially Unforgiven (also Thomas Jane in Punisher). Try to avoid the usual cliches in action/revenge movies if you can.
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I'm waiting for new Rambo movie much more than for Rocky Balboa and what can I say....PERFECT! That's the real John J. Rambo. Please rememeber to use Goldsmith theme and it will be perfect!
Nothing is over....nothing...You just don't turn it off!:-)
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Ignore the naysayers, SLY! You have just as many supporters, and I will be lining up to see this. I admit that I was skeptical when I heard about this, but I should've known better after Rocky Balboa turned out to be a real gem. It's still a bit early, but it looks like Sly is going to deliver us a good old-fashioned 80s exploitation action flick. I am PSYCHED to see good ol' Rambo come back and go out with some throat-ripping style. Now let's hope INDY 4 will deliver as well.
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Great trailer. As long as the storyline is good and Sly doesn't start cutting to appease the kiddies...I think this could be his best one. Keep with your audience, Sly...we're the ones that have remained loyal to you.
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Thanks for sharing this Pre-Teaser/Trailer with us Sly. That is how a Mature Action Movie should look like. No Quick Cuts, Big Guns and lots of Blood and Gore. I hope that we wont get a watered down Version and dont forget the Jerry Goldsmith Theme.
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because if the studio wants Sly to tone it down, he'll be pressured. Not that he was one to ever give in, but hey it COULD happen. And if it does, we'd be able to say, but what about that kick ass trailer from a year ago? You know, the one that still exists on my hard drive? That rocked!
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Leave it to Sly to actually get me excited about a flick! Seriously, with all the SHIT-SANDWICHES Hollywood rolls out! This looks great! Just please let me fork out my 30 bucks for the UNRATED-UNCUT DVD!!!! Thanks Sly!!!
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This is one of the most anticipated sequels for the middle aged crowd. Who, unfortunately, I am a member of. We were weaned in High School on the original First Blood, and have watched Sly's career for the past 30 years. Some of his movies were great, some were good, but very few if any sucked outright. He has given us the final chapter in the Rocky Balboa saga, and it feels as though this will be Rambo's final farewell. The clip itself looked scary/violent, not the choreographed slow mo B.S. we have been subjected to for the last several years. I for one, will be waiting for this with a lot of anticipation, the way the young fanboys did for Harry Potter, and Pirates of the Caribbean. Bring it on Sly, show us what you got and we will show you the money. Critics be damned, we enjoy your movies for what the are, 100 percent pure escapism.
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Dear Sly,
Thank you for bringing Rambo back. If this footage IS the tone you plan to keep, then I will be spending my movie bucks on your film next summer. I know you're a busy man, so I'll just list my thoughts below.
LIKES:
1. The R-rated, serious tone of the story and violence. I cannot stress the importance on keeping Rambo R-rated.
2. The story. Burma is a great choice.
3. Rambo's look. He must keep his long locks because the hair says a lot about John. He's not a clean cut prissy. He's a down and dirty warrior for Justice.
CONCERNS:
1. Please stick to the real and rich character development you mastered in 'First Blood'. You play the best underdog hero bar none. I want to see John up against the wall, fighting a system that won't leave him be, or one that he can't turn a blind eye to.
2. Please write real, and act real. I see your movies because you come across as a real, honest person on screen. This is why 'Rocky', 'First Blood, 'Rocky Balboa' are films I buy and revisit all the time.
3. Future installment wish- It would be great if one day Rambo made it state-side again and came face-to-face with Sheriff Will Teasle after so many years. You had great chemistry with Brian Dennehy and I don't think I'm the only fan who'd like to have a scene in which the Sheriff admits he was wrong; or perhaps he doesn't, and Rambo clocks him one!
In conclusion, I want to commend you on delivering great preview footage for 'John Rambo'. Your Rocky and Rambo characters are a big reason I love cinema. I want to be entertained and more importantly, I want John Rambo to give me some on-screen justice that will alleviate the fear and frustration I feel in this war-torn world we live in today. God bless you. And please, don't limit Rambo's library to 4 films. I understand that Rocky has to retire, but there is no age limit to being a patriot.
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I must say, that 3 minutes was a better action movie than all the crap the "new" action stars have done lately combined. Very excited about this movie. This looks old school kick fucking ass Rambo style!!!
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Sly, if you're still reading the Talkbacks, the trailer is great and I'm glad you're brining back 80's style hard R-rated action. But I'd like to suggest that you cut down on the Christianity stuff in the film. I didn't mind it in Rocky Balboa as there wasn't a lot of it, but I fear that too much of it in John Rambo might alienate your non-religious fans, of which I'm one. And while I'm sure it's not intentional, the way the voiceover reciting a prayer is then followed by a ton of gory action will reinforce pro-war Christians' belief that the Iraq war is a holy war that their religion justifies and that any violence is alright as long as it's done on a Christian pretext. Other than that, I look forward to it.
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That clip was way better than I thought it would be. Keep it gritty and bloody... a hard R would be sweet. I forgot how big an impression Stalone made on me as a kid until the new Rocky movie came out and now Rambo.
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The first 2 minutes of the Trailer showed Rambos inner conflict, which would be something different from the first 2 movies, and was intriguing. But the gore and violence of the last minute or so was so graphic that it was allmost unwatchable. With Beheadings being shown on TV reality supercedes Rambo. Do we need to be reminded of the horror in our entertainment that takes place daily in the world.
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The first 2 minutes of the Trailer showed Rambos inner conflict, which would be something different from the first 2 movies, and was intriguing. But the gore and violence of the last minute or so was so graphic that it was allmost unwatchable. With Beheadings being shown on TV reality supercedes Rambo. Do we need to be reminded of the horror in our entertainment that takes place daily in the world.
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Rickey's wondering how the whole steroids thing will play out. http://ridingwithricky.blogspot.com
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I was big fan of action movies in the 80's and if they had aged properly through the 90's (which they didn't) this is what a 2007, 2008 action movie SHOULD look like. Love the Christianity stuff, too! Rambo needs to be more than a one dimentional character and if John Rambo is Italian (like I believe he is), he would have been raised strictly catholic. Goin' back to his ingrained beliefs here, combined with over-the-top violence, and we have a complex character struggling with himself.
Oh and great job with the gore, don't listen to anyone here that questions it. We are living in a post-9/11 world, hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq (including our troops) are dying horrible deaths. This movie just reflects that. We are living in violent times, people, like it or not. A Rambo movie should be in touch with the times. Can't wait to see this, I'll be there opening night for sure! -
One thing about trailers is they highlight the best stuff which can mean the rest of the movie sucks. But it achieves its purpose. It looks good. Stallone knows how to sell a feature. I only hope the rest of the flick backs it up.
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Sly, Please do NOT consider removing the violence from this edition of Rambo. It truly is the essence of the character. John Rambo, the hermit type ex-soldier, just trying to peacefully exsist. The government comes calling and Of course, he is reluctant. Unwilling to cooperate with what he believes to be someone else’s battle. Then the personal involvement with a character that is taken POW/imprisoned and the shit just hit the proverbial fan! Rambo's character in many ways embodies how we as a country should act. 1) Stay out of other countries civil wars, but 2) if we do become involved: the political correctness goes out the window and the gloves come off...it’s almost as if Ronnie Reagan were president again.
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The best thing about response to this trailer is that no matter which talkback forum you go to, it is almost exclusively positive, not only pro-Stallone posters. What a great intro to the new film. This seems to have the positive buzz of a certain Rocky flick not too long ago, and we all know how that turned out! Can't wait....
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Well Stallone wants us to be honest. Here goes. I'm a massive Stallone Rambo/Rocky fan so I should be easily pleased. I have to be honest, I'm really dissapointed,this footage looks so 80's. Even the explosives remind me of the old Chuck Norris movies. I was hoping Rambo would have been brought up to the millenium age with some new slant & relevance to today's climate. If all Rambo can do is find 101 ways to kill a guy & run around in a jungle in some Chinese land then maybe there's no room for John J in the movies of Today. What a shame. If Stallone can inject some meaning & heart to the movie before it's complete the maybe there's a chance.
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Looks great!
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HGH or not...If I looked HALF as good as this guy does at 60,I would do nothing short of hooking battery cables up to my "naughty places" to achieve this...enough writing...time to head to the gym!!! Thanks Sly,and like I did for "Rocky Balboa"...Opening day equals Sick Day (I sure hope to God my boss doesn't get on this site.)
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cmon' man give this to us as a 1080p quicktime HD download.
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HGH or not...If I looked HALF as good as this guy does at 60,I would do nothing short of hooking battery cables up to my "naughty places" to achieve this...enough writing...time to head to the gym!!! Thanks Sly,and like I did for "Rocky Balboa"...Opening day equals Sick Day (I sure hope to God my boss doesn't get on this site.)
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I was a little worried about this movie until I saw this, but now I can't fucking wait.
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I really like the look of the trailer so far, sort of a Grindhouse version of Rambo, the way it should be I think...the music is good too.
As a Christian and theologian, I am also curious to see how much of a role the religious aspect plays in the film. From what I understand, the people Rambo is rescuing is a group of Christian humanitarians, but the trailer itself seems to indicate that Rambo is searching for redemption? Or God's hand of vengeance? Or meant to subvert the words of peace brought by the messenger? Who knows, it will be interesting to see. -
I am a fan of First Blood. John Rambo
was a no nonsense fearless trained fighter.
His image here is conflicting, holding cross then
ripping throats out. A single bullet would
kill the guy in the car. This picture has him
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1. Why does everyone that runs this site think have to tell us their life story everytime they post something?
2. How much of that is going to make it to the final product?..probably none.
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I really like how Stallone sets the audience up for the violence that is to come, like the innocent Christians, they go in, get beat, murder in cold blood, looked like one almost got raped. i mean by that time, i WANT to see rambo kill those bastards and i'm ready to see some ass kickin, and with that prayer to lead up to it, i mean i couldn't stop myself from smiling from what i knew was coming next. Good job Stallone, you're not only a great actor, but an awesome director!
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Sly, I finally managed to log on after many attempts, and I know there is a lot of reading for you on here so I’ll keep it brief as possible.
Thanks from myself and all at stallonezone for making Rocky & Rambo and bringing back memories, which we were too young to fully appreciate.
You’re the only actor that has done that, thank you.
Also, I have always worried about you bringing back Rambo, my first worry was, would you be able to carry out the amazing sprints, the stunts with close ups that actually prove its you, that’s what makes you stand out from the rest. The trailer has hit home, yes its gory, but as long as its used here and there otherwise it will become too much and will lose its shock value.
I know what you are doing here, and what you have done in the past, bringing a message to the audience, be it Rocky IV, Rambo III, Balboa and now Rambo IV. Well done, some call it cheesy, that’s the obstacle you need to avoid, but don’t give in to CGI, give us the Rambo of old, and please, the top has to come off at some point, even if you have to get tortured…
There’s a lot of people jealous of you out there Sly, stick to your guns, and keep on punching…
Keep moving the boundaries like you did in the 80’s and for god sake while you can, do your own stunts!!
Thank you once again on bringing catastrophes like Burma to us, and hopefully Rambo will continue to open our eyes for many more years to come…
All the best
Tony
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...I agree that its Stallone as Stallone as well. Very low budget and sans the gratuitous violence it comes off as a Sci Fi channel original. Throw a hockey mask on him and its Friday the 13th in Burma. Sorry but it just seems like Mister Stallone is getting desperate. Sad really.
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Cuz I likes my 'splodin' bodies red and runny.....
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this needs to have a wolrdwide release date, not like the cock up Balboa had, but then again with the subject matter of Rambo IV, remember when III came out and the Russians started pulling out of afghanistan...
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low budget?
Sci fi original?
at least Sly is managing to tell a REAL story on a low budget...
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low budget?
Sci fi original?
at least Sly is managing to tell a REAL story on a low budget...
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Was planning to see it anyway, but this clip just sealed the deal.
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Respect!
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Damn...it's about time they bring back some kick butt action movies. I will definitely be seeing this one. Only complaint is Sly's damn plastic surgery. This definitely looks to have good ol kick ass action written all over it.
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Sly, love that Rambo is back and I'll see it. But, I Don't care about the enemy he is fighting, he's talking too much and being too philosophical, I know he's dead, but damn I miss Trautman. Oh yeah, what's with the White Shadow reading passages from the Bible?
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welcome back Rambo! the trailer is bloody and vicious and I cant wait to see it!!
Wish it didnt have the bible bashing though, if I wanted to be force fed ancient fairy tales I'd go to a church not to the cinema!
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This trailer is awesome, it's fucking good, man. It's nice to see again Rambo kicking some bad guys asses. This movie is gonna be fucking cool. Doubtless, Sly is in a good shape. The only two things concernig the movie that I think Stallone should change are:
First, the title; honestly, 'John Rambo' isn't the best title for the movie. I mean, for the Rocky saga, 'Rocky Balboa' was actually the best title for the number 6, but for Rambo, I think the best would be simply 'Rambo IV'. Mr.Stallone, listen to me, please, with a title like 'John Rambo', many people won't know if this is a remake of the first Rambo movie, or something like that. Honestly, I'm from Spain, and in my country there were a lot of people who didn't know if 'Rocky Balboa' was a re-release of the first movie, a remake, or what. They didn't know that it was actually the sixth part. Even in this way , I think that it was a good title. But for Rambo, the best title is simply 'Rambo IV'. In that way, everybody will know what this is; a fourth part.
The second thing is about the release date; I have heard that it's on May 2008. Well, simply it's not the best date. Indiana Jones IV will be out on the same month, and all of us know that it will be a tough rival in the box office; actually Indiana is stronger than Rambo in the box office; so, Mr.Stallone, please change the release date. What about February or March? -
COME ON! IT WOULD BE THE COOLEST STREAK OF MOVIELOVERS' DREAMS COME TRUE ALONG WITH THE NOW LEGENDARY BRUCE WILLIS TALKBACK. PLEASE! BUT WITHOUT BLACK BOX! (THATS THE WAY MYTHS ARE BORN- WITHOUT BLACK BOX)
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I just watched it a second time with sound. Forget what I said earlier about the dye job. I don't care anymore. THis looks unbelievably great.
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I hope that RAMBO IV follows in the footsteps of ROCKY BALBOA with respect to how we were taken by surprise and blown out of the water with good the end resul was. I loved Rocky Balboa for its sensitivity and maturity of a much older and wiser Rocky, coping with the shadows of his life in the 21st century- dealing with life, loss, regrets, and introspection.
One of the things that grabs me about the RAMBO IV trailer is the look of the film. The tight close-ups and medium shots make it more real, more visceral, and sets it apart from the first three movies which were made during the end of the cold war. The first three movies were made for a different era and a different purpose. This is only a trailer and doesn't reflect the finished product. I just hope that the story and film's message do the visuals justice. I am eager to see... -
Okay, my first reaction was "Oh gawd, another Rambo movie?!"
but after seeing just that short bit, I'm now saying "Oooh, another Rambo movie!"
Seriously, this one seems more real, more in the spirit of the first (IMO the best) Rambo film. In fact like this grown up, quieter character much better. Makes the later explosion of rage and justice just that much more arresting.
I didn't see how much of a love interest the blonde girl becomes, but I'm hoping it's a story of restraint ohn Rambo's part. She's awfully young, a kid really. I don't enjoy seing see mature--no, not old, devastatingly goddamn mature--men paired up with ingenues, even passionately idealistic ones. It's just too trite.
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I actually thought it was a parody at first.
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cant wait till the Black20.com guys get a hold of this.
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If someone wanted to get my attention, then consider it done. Stallone's got the balls to do the stuff he wants to, fuck what anyone else thinks. Bloody as hell, even more than I expected... I remember being hella giddy after the 2nd movie and this totally took me back. Thanks for the memories, Sly!
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Nice going Sly. This was unexpectedly cool.
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Stallone turns up the action knob up all the way and breaks the motherfucker off!!!
That's what I'm talking about! :D
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Fantastic.
I Dunno who I love the most, John Rambo or Sylvester Stallone. ;)
Here are some personal opinions however:
Like you said in Rambo 2, the mind is the best weapon; I hope that's the case in this movie (too), I'd rather see you outsmart your enemies rather than seeing you running in gunz blazing with 100% accuracy without getting a scratch yourself. (Commando style)
HOWEVER you do reach a point in a movie where you've outsmarted them enough and it's ok doing it Commando style. ;)
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Keep the blood and guts! Please please do NOT edit it out. The people who don't want to see it aren't 'John Rambo' fans anyway....no viewers lost!
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Awesome clip! I sure hope there isn't going to be a lot of Xtian stuff here, and I hope there is strong character development here with the ongoing saga of John Rambo's life. I'm also glad to see Stallone bring awareness to the current problems in Burma.
HARD R ALL THE WAY! HOLY CRAP, RAMBO'S BACK!
HOLY CRAP, RAMBO'S BACK! HOLY CRAP, RAMBO'S BACK! HOLY CRAP, RAMBO'S BACK! HOLY CRAP, RAMBO'S BACK! HOLY CRAP, RAMBO'S BACK! HOLY CRAP, RAMBO'S BACK! -
YOU ROCK! After watching this and seeing what you did with Rocky Balboa, I think this is an excellent idea to wrap up the series. I love how you are going to make it ultra violent. Usually Im not really into that but after seeing this--I'M in! So where is it gonna go? Is John Rambo gonna die at the end??? That might be cool. OK OK Don't tell me just hurry up and finish it!
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I have been a long time fan, and actually got to meet Mr. Stallone years ago on the set of Tango and Cash, and still years later the man is still kicking major ass. I will be waiting for the One TRUE action hero to be back in theaters with this one. Keep on punchin Sly!
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A+ This movie has my vote and money. Looks like what the fans are looking for, thanks for not backing out on the fans and bringing Rambo back for a good reason! Keep it up man! I will deff. go see it now.
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YO SLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rambo is gonna KICK ASS
by fritzlorrerains
Everyone I show this trailer to is pumped up to see it. Even the dumbshits that thought a Rambo 4 was a terrible idea.
Me and a lotta people are gonna see this opening day. Woo Hoo!!
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I sat down and watched Rambo first blood last week and had my wife actually watch it for the first time. We are both College graduate educated individuals and she knows I grew up watching Sylvester and Arnold do the action thing on the big screen. I was a young kid growing up with no father, and perhaps the masculinity on hyper drive on screen helped mold me, of course I was smart enough to know when to be aggressive and when to slide.
My wife actually found the movie to be the exact opposite of what she had always thought it was. Having never seen it, she had heard from others what it was and took umbrage to its violence etc. She agreed with me that sometimes good men have to do violent acts.
There are quite a few fellas out there in the good old USA that are in my age range who can remember the first time they chucked their fists in the air mimicking Rocky's punches or ran around the yard killing VC or Russians with improvised sticks. There was a guilty pleasure in the back of my head I couldn't shake when I walked by a mirror and popped off a few incredibly sloppy punches or lashed a butter knife to a stick to emulate a bayonet.
You see even back then it was uncouth and un PC to display such outrageous lust for violence.
We are in a world where most of the people listening to gangster rap are middle class white kids in the suburbs, ashamed to be longing for a male role model; they shouldn't have to look in the gutter to fill that void.
We all can look at Stallone’s characters Rocky Balboa and Now thankfully the reprisal of John Rambo and see the dad's we really wished we had and hope to be. Rock will tell you he loves you, give you a knock on the chin, and has that inner maleness to draw upon when action is called for. John Is the wounded warrior we all become when we stumble and the same redeemer of our heritage when we prevail again, even for a moment.
It's an age where the demasculanization of men is hailed as progressive, and the very reason we must support the simple stories on-screen relishing the ethos of maleness.
Mr Stallone if you read this, please take note of this poem By Thomas Hardy.
That…be not told of my death,
Or made to grieve on account of me,
And that I be not buried in consecrated ground,
And that no sexton be asked to toll the bell,
And that nobody is wished to see my dead body,
And that no mourners walk behind me at my Funeral,
And that no flowers be planted on my grave,
And that no man remember me,
To this I put my name.
-Thomas Hardy
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I sat down and watched Rambo first blood last week and had my wife actually watch it for the first time. We are both College graduate educated individuals and she knows I grew up watching Sylvester and Arnold do the action thing on the big screen. I was a young kid growing up with no father, and perhaps the masculinity on hyper drive on screen helped mold me, of course I was smart enough to know when to be aggressive and when to slide.
My wife actually found the movie to be the exact opposite of what she had always thought it was. Having never seen it, she had heard from others what it was and took umbrage to its violence etc. She agreed with me that sometimes good men have to do violent acts.
There are quite a few fellas out there in the good old USA that are in my age range who can remember the first time they chucked their fists in the air mimicking Rocky's punches or ran around the yard killing VC or Russians with improvised sticks. There was a guilty pleasure in the back of my head I couldn't shake when I walked by a mirror and popped off a few incredibly sloppy punches or lashed a butter knife to a stick to emulate a bayonet.
You see even back then it was uncouth and un PC to display such outrageous lust for violence.
We are in a world where most of the people listening to gangster rap are middle class white kids in the suburbs, ashamed to be longing for a male role model; they shouldn't have to look in the gutter to fill that void.
We all can look at Stallone’s characters Rocky Balboa and Now thankfully the reprisal of John Rambo and see the dad's we really wished we had and hope to be. Rock will tell you he loves you, give you a knock on the chin, and has that inner maleness to draw upon when action is called for. John Is the wounded warrior we all become when we stumble and the same redeemer of our heritage when we prevail again, even for a moment.
It's an age where the demasculanization of men is hailed as progressive, and the very reason we must support the simple stories on-screen relishing the ethos of maleness.
Mr Stallone if you read this, please take note of this poem By Thomas Hardy.
That…be not told of my death,
Or made to grieve on account of me,
And that I be not buried in consecrated ground,
And that no sexton be asked to toll the bell,
And that nobody is wished to see my dead body,
And that no mourners walk behind me at my Funeral,
And that no flowers be planted on my grave,
And that no man remember me,
To this I put my name.
-Thomas Hardy
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This looks amazing! This is going to be the real John Rambo. Like what Sly did with Rocky Balboa, the film seems to be giving this classic character a proper send off. It looks visually stunning. The casting seems right on the money. The action looks blood pumpingly wild. And Brian Tyler is one of my favorite composers so I am glad to see he is scoring it. Really looking forward to this film now.
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OUTSTANDING! The world needs RAMBO just like Pres. Reagan said. I hope that this hits theaters SOON! Way to go Stallone!
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Sly,
This seems to evoke the character in the first film much more than the previous two sequels. He seems more like the troubled loner again, who when pushed...pushes back...with a vengeance! Kudos for recapturing that John Rambo again...and I even like the "First Blood" style graphic for the "John Rambo" title. I think, like "Rocky Balboa", this has the potential to be the best film in the series since the first. Looking forward to it and thanks. -
Ramo punches the guys head clean off... but now I can't get that thought out of my head. Now I wish he did punch that guys head clean off. That would be the ultimate kill EVER!!! 500 million dollars opening night guaranteed if he digitally removes the machete. It would be a scene of legends.
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It's great to see oldschool action flicks like this again. Great job Sly. Please keep it up.
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This is the greatest thing I've seen in forever. Holy shit, it's about motherfucking time we saw some old school action. This makes Matrix looks like bigger pussy shit than it already did. The shitty CGI action we've seen in movies is total shit. This is the shit they should all be making now. I almost lost all faith thinking I'd never see another cool action movie. Thank God for Stallone's return to the movie business.
Instead of lame themes we see in stuff like The Matrix, we get a real one-man-army movie, true to the '80s style movies that started the genre. And instead of a piece of shit androgynous main character like Neo or something, we get a masculine guy with a composite longbow and his own forge. Rambo is a true rugged, iconic symbol of individualism, and is what all those metrosexual main characters we have in movies now wish they could be.
And despite there being tons of action, the story-telling aspect seems like it'll be slightly more mundane and actually have a realistic quality to it. Rocky Balboa was a great movie because of the acting and story going on. It actually kind of had a real feeling to it, not some fake plastic feel you get watching most modern acting. And it's not just a matter of modern actors being worthless pieces of shit, but the filmography seemed to be more of a classic style, and a bit more slow-paced without a lot of extra shit glamour.
I'd rather pay $10 to watch that fucking trailer alone than I would for another Matrix movie or another 300.
I'm just tired of all this over-stylized BS getting shoved down my throat, so sorry about the excessive profanity. But seeing this movie trailer brought out some passionate feelings in me about how I feel about movies and how they should be.
Modern movies are generally just shit in a dixie cup with excessive amounts of whip cream (CGI), oreo cookie crumbles (violence), and sprinkles poured on (sex), because they have to doll up there shit because they just don't have good fundamentals or good base script or acting talent to really work with. Rambo has have some toppings, but I like toppings. So long as they're not hiding shit under it.
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that Christian angle. Don't mind the violence but if the missionaries are portrayed as ultra good as opposed to the ultra bad Burmese then you might have a problem convincing your European fans. Sorry, but going into a war zone unprotected is incredibly naive and downright stupid. Tone down the religious aspect, please.
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"that Christian angle. Don't mind the violence but if the missionaries are portrayed as ultra good as opposed to the ultra bad Burmese then you might have a problem convincing your European fans. Sorry, but going into a war zone unprotected is incredibly naive and downright stupid. Tone down the religious aspect, please."
I'm not even Christian and I'm sick of the Christian bashers. Christianity is part of the culture. If you saw a Jet Li movie or something portraying Buddhism or some other Asian religion in a good light, you'd respect it. You should be tolerant of all cultures and believes, including Christianity. -
I think that these stories definitely deserve to have an ending...they are Sly's stories and they deserve to be told. But Rambo dealing with Genecide when we are over in Iraq. The spirit of Rambo to me seems to be distilled down to Rambo is a killing machine that is turned on and off. And if he is pushed to far, he breaks. I would think...I hope this movie is a big hit. And I hope that Stallone can go on and make movies, I wanna see Stallone in big ensemble movies. Go Rambo. Can't wait. Probably the bloodiest footage I have ever seen.
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I didn't think I'd care to watch the new Rambo. Truth be told I didn't watch all the other Rambos nor all the Rockys but I did like the newest Rocky. (Shut up, yes I did and I'll admit it). After watching this, like I said, I guess I'll have to watch this new Rambo. Of course with a group of friends who love some good gore! I'm not a fan of over the top gore like Hostel (stupid movie) but so far this movie seems to be on the right track.
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"What you call hell HE calls home"John Rambo enjoys killing- or he does what he was made to do.Soldiers sometimes have problems living amongst us.Rambo seems to want peace, but can't find a way to really get it. Pity.
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... Chuck Norris is watching the JOHN RAMBO trailer and going, "Hmmmm..." ;-)
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that it may be too simplistic ("ultra good missionaries" vs "ultra bad Burmese").
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The aids want Rambo's help CHECK
Rambo says no, I'm at peace CHECK
Girl questions Rambo's integrity CHECK
The aids go alone CHECK
They are captured CHECK
Politicians need Rambo CHECK
Rambo contemplates CHECK
Rambo goes after them CHECK
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hmmm...I wonder which country's people are next to feed the blood-thirsty Americans. Do all you morons realise how dangerous it is be brainwashed by propoganda?
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one worthy man with guts to question it's own country's actions, and not buy into all the right-wing crap fed the the American people. Shame on you right-wingers.
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"Do all you morons realise how dangerous it is be brainwashed by propoganda?"
Why do you give into anti-white, anti-Christian hate propaganda like some sort of zealot, then?
"Shame on you right-wingers."
You ask Sly to sell out his culture and spiritual beliefs to sell movie tickets and crusade against Christians and say "shame on you"? You're the most close-minded, intolerant and hateful people I know. Leave Christians alone. Sly isn't a sell-out, and won't give up his beliefs and values to sell a few movie tickets. Liberalism is about tolerance and respecting differences, not hating people for their culture and religion. It doesn't matter what their skin color or religion is. Even if they're white and Christian, you have to be tolerant and respectful. -
that North Korea was the most hated country. Or Communist China. Or Iraq. Or Aghanistan. Or Pakistan. Or Germany. So, US of A is placed 8th at most.Now, can we please get back talking about movies? Fuck this political crap.
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Seriously, Turbonium, you didn't even get my point in the first place. So stop bashing those damn liberal Europeans for feeling a little uncomfortable with the supposed Warriors for Christ scenario.
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All I'm saying is that people should respect all cultures and religion. I hate to see a movie take flak for having some culture/religion added in. That being said, you shouldn't be saying they should cut out the Christianity from the movie. But they should instead perhaps show some of the native characters in a positive light, and show there are some people from that culture with respectable traditions and values, too. This turned political only when someone came in to bash it for having Christian elements in an attempt to push the liberal Euro-socialist agenda in the comment section.
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Mr. Stallone, if you read this, just wanted to say I am a huge fan of your work. Here is my objective view of the trailer:
Positive: Excellent action scenes and intensity. A perfect marriage of mayhem and thrills.
Negatives: Looks low budget, the cheap hand held shaky cam and gritty footage in the end makes the film less epic in scope.
I think a great blueprint for this movie should be Predator which combined a great story with thrilling pulse pounding action.
I think personally if you ever make another rambo movie or a separate action picture, you should try to do something like The Rock. A grizzled veteran who leads a group of young guns into a hellish place and bail them out in a way you only know how.
p.s. Death Wish was a great idea for a movie, I always thought of you as a modern day Charles Bronson. Nobody plays underdog heros like you and that story in death wish would have been perfect for you! It's very much in the style of Clint Eastwoods later films in the 90's, character driven action pictures! -
are not the same thing. So please stop using them like they were two terms denoting the same thing. There's a difference between a movie that has some "culture added in" and one that has religious sub-texts.Secondly, criticizing someone for "bashing" this movie due to its whatever-religious tones but in the same sentence bashing him for being a "liberal Euro-socialist" doesn't make any sense. Plus it denounces Europeans. Talk about respecting traditions and such...
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Rambo has super strength. he can punch heads off and tear flesh off humans, growl! strangely this promo thing is working. i might see this flick
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The liberal socialist movement in Europe is not traditional European values or tradition. And to say religion isn't a big part of culture and cultural influence in most societies is wrong. Religion has a big influence in cultures all around the world, and has for nearly all of mankind's history.
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The trailer has spoken, its caused a stir, christianity, racism, gore.
Intelligent people know that religion, racism & gore goes out of the window in war, it starts to get personal. Stick to the message intended, tell the story.
You wonder why Rambo is pissed, missionaires who are trying to help are captured and tortured, the most basic of human acts to help other humans, your damn right Rambo has had enough.
AFTER THOUSANDS OF YEARS, AND NUMEROUS CIVILISATIONS TAKEN OVER AND TRIBES WIPED OUT BY MEN WHO THINK THEY KNOW BEST, AND WE HAVN'T LEARNT A THING...
NOW GREED HAS TAKEN OVER AND ITS ABOUT THE MONEY, AND NO-ONE WANTS TO KNOW AS LONG AS THEY CAN LIVE THIER RICH LIVES...
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for believing in a religion, it's not there fault that they were raised to believe it, if you had a kid and raised the kid to be a killer with out teaching them right from wrong then that kid when older and starts killing cant go to jail for it, because that was how they were raised, so i guess what i am trying to say is some people need to stop being so damn ignorant and realise that they should have some respect for all religion even if they dont agree with it.
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I agree with your comments, and i think the trailer is great, but i'll point out one thing. In 'Frist Blood' Rambo did not kill anyone. He injured and maimed them, but did NOT kill anyone.
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"religion has a big influence in cultures all around the world"
i agree, and its all over some words past down from generation to generation or spoken from generation to generation, but what was the source?
the source needs to be a personal journey, otherwise where is the validation?
Rambo seems to of found his, but it seems he cannot rest because others havn't found their paths of enlightment
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No we shouldn't respect all faiths. I've no respect for faiths that promise paradise to martyrs who die killing infidels. Faith is bunk. Anyway, nice Rambo footage. Boom!
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"religion has a big influence in cultures all around the world"Unfortunately.Welcome to the 12th....errr...21st century.
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Know matter what you have to respect the fact that Sly is asking for our opinion on this film.
He did with Balboa and now Rambo, that in itself derserves major respect.
He values our opinion, not because he fears a dud, but he wants to make something that hopefully everyone will enjoy…
Well done !
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ha ha.can always count on talkbackers to go o.t.t.Sit back,enjoy that innocent 80's movie feel and turn 0ff those over networked brains.Ah,im gonna slink back deep into my cinema chair and enjoy this one.That time away from movies has reminded stallone what his fans wanna see.loved the music that was played over the action scenes in the clip btw
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its keeps us on the straight & narrow, makes us understand basic morales in life, and a good start for younger kids, but you gotta say one thing, religion should be a personal venture, i call it more spirituality, i find it very hard nowadays to believe in some old texts that i dont even know who wrote!
i prefer to experience things for myself and not be dictated to.
people are turning into sheep and following the herd...
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Rocky Balboa was an awesome movie and if John Rambo is even close to it in quality, it will be well worth the watch in the theaters.
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I like Mr. Stallone very much, but I hate...NO, REALLY HATE his choice of geography for this film. Burma's politics definitely deserve more attention worldwide, but I do not for a second believe that a teenager's wet dream of a movie is going to show the level of respect that the politics require. I have a very close friend in Burma, whose father was in the infamous Burmese military. He was shot dead, when my friend was a young boy. If you saw the crumpled, black and white image that he carries always of his father, just maybe... some of you naive bloodsuckers, might just get a better understanding of the human factor affecting REAL issues in Burma. I have also been to refugee camps where Karen people have fled over to the Thai border. I am sorry, but this new Rambo movie is really an demeaning to the issues. I just hope that Aung San Suu Kyi gets released, so that the hype for this horrendous filmic depiction is dampened.
I think Mr. Stallone needs to reassess the core of what he is trying to achieve here. I recommend taking a good hard look at the faces of REAL Burmese: http://tinyurl.com/39z7nx
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...To praise him so much? I thought this trailer was horrible. Pointless gore and a tired old plot. The same could be said of any action movie nowadays, but JOHN RAMBO revels in it. The trailer says "Look at me! I'm as young as I was thirty years ago. Come watch my pathetic comeback!" Sly, it's time to move on. Let go of your 80s victories and find some new material. At least lose the headband...you look like Willie Nelson without the beard.
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""religion has a big influence in cultures all around the world"
Unfortunately.
Welc ome to the 12th....errr...21st century"
Yeah, welcome to the 21st century where religious tolerance is supposed to be promoted. I'm not a Christian myself, but I can respect John Rambo being a Christian. Faith affects some people's lives, their beliefs about the world and how they view things in general. Rambo's faith may be a big part of who he is and what makes him what he is. Or even may have a great deal to do with how he evolved as a character. Here in the 21st century we should be respecting all faiths rather than persecuting and lashing out at them for it. -
I have been reading this site for a couple of years and, right now, have created an account so I could comment on what I just saw.
Damn.
From what I just saw, you could make four more of those movies and people will come to see them. If I can extrapolate from what I saw, you have recognized that people want grit and hardness, not a "PG" version, of their action heroes.
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That is some of the most realistic bloodshed ever!
Can't wait for this one!
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and show 'em all the movies early on. My son, who turns 3 in July, favors Rocky IV. He loves Dolph's towering russian boxer, only he cannot say, "Ivan." He marches around the house with his fists held high saying, "I'm Dry-Ban!" And then he hits his sister.
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so refresh my memory, please.. were the other ones as flipping gory as this? That was some brutal stuff!
I remember hearing about Rocky 6/Rambo 4 getting started and I thought "Why?" - but Rocky Balboa turned out to be a really good movie. Held against my expectations, it was astonishingly good. So, I am far lass skeptical of this one.. that trailer was promising for sure, as far as delivering a good old school action movie. -
...is that it's created positive buzz about the hard-R version of the story. That means that when the suits ask him to cut the film for a PG-13 rating, he can just show them the printout of this page (and all the other web forums), and go, "Sorry, no. I have my own audience research right here..."
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I think you need to have a balance if you want the movie to be realistic. As well as rescuing the Christian missionaries, you should have at least one psycho Christian who wants to invade every third world country that happens to have lots of oil, kills its leaders and convert them to Christianity. You could call that character Ann Bush or George Coulter. And have Rambo fire a bazooka at him or her. End the movie with a speech about how you're next gonna infiltrate Vatican City and wipe out the Catholic Church who have protected so many pedophiles.
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I have to admit, I wasn't interested at all in seeing this film. I love First Blood in every way possible and find Rambo II and III to be passably fun. However, in the modern film world I didn't think that a REAL action film could be done properly that could use a character like John Rambo. Hollywood has wimpled out and what is considered action films these days are nothing more than pap.
Sly... you have rekindled my faith.
DO NOT TONE THIS DOWN! If this footage is an indicator of what you are doing with this film, please, for the love of God, do not tone this down for anybody. If they threaten to slap an NC-17 on it (as if; look at Private Ryan) then take it as a badge of honor and still release it as is.
And please, go with a real film score composer. Half of the beauty of the first film was the wonderful symmetry between the story, the acting, the directing and the awesomeness of Jerry Goldsmith's lush, haunting score. If you want this film to really be effective, you need a composer who can bridge the gap between the emotion and the action. It's sad that Jerry isn't around to do that, but you have to find a REAL composer. Not a synth freak or a cheap gun for hire. Find yourself a real composer and get that thunderous action score in there.
If you are going to go in, go all the way. Make this the Rambo film to end all action films and you will fill every seat in every theater this plays in. And the story better be interesting because action alone will not make this film a full-blown success. The story better be worthwhile for repeated viewings with a point to it all.
In short... good work Sly. Glad to see somebody has FINALLY recognized what audiences have been longing for in action films for the last 2 decades. If you do your audience right, they will forever be in your gratitude. -
or does stallone look like hes degenerating rapidly ??? he looks horrible.....hope theres more of a reason why he goes on that killing spree, cuz in every rambo movie he had a personal reason for getting involved.....hope its not, these good people disappeared, hope its i got with that blonde chick somewhere inbetween the time they met and the time they left and i gotta go save my woman..... if not, its a dumb reason to make a rambo movie. why ? just to say there is injustice in some 3rd world country most of us dont care about to make some kind of political statement.......also someone should tell stalllone to stop doing sequels and using the full name of the main character as the title.... rocky balboa, john rambo..... whats next ? john spartan ? judge joeseph dredd ? i think that was dredds first name, dont quote me on it, but u get my point
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Hilarious AND true!
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I think there are some strong hints that Rambo will die at the end of this one. Rocky needed a happy, poignant ending, Rambo needs a sad, poignant ending. As I said earlier in this talkback, it is only in death that he will finally find peace.
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I don't get the haters crying about Sly's plastic surgery. Sure he looks a bit different than 10, 20, 30 years ago. But when it comes to movies, who cares, since in Sly's case his biggest roles are that of a professional boxer and a war-torn veteran soldier. Both boxers and soldiers routinely get plastic surgery to fix up the damage to their faces. It's not a vanity thing at all. In Sly's personal case, it may or may not be, I don't know. But why not just accept that Rocky could have had surgery like that (in fact, in II he does, we saw it) and Rambo might have had work done too. Jesus Christ on a popsicle stick.I hope this movie takes its time, gives a little character exposition with the action, and doesn't shoot its load inside of 85 minutes. If this is the last Rambo, give us something to savor. Film some incidental shit with John planting crops. Doing morning calesthenics. Meditation. Eating a bowl of rice with chopsticks. If he fixes boats, show him make small talk with friends / clients on a dock someplace, to show that he's not a total recluse and doesn't hate the world, because he doesn't. If he did hate the world, it would be no great leap to have him go into combat mode again and start killing. There's got to be a little reluctance there at first to get involved again, something to show that Rambo is in fact connected in some way with other people and does in fact sympathize with others. Maybe he paints (Sly does). Maybe he plays a sitar. Yeah, sounds crazy, but let's give Rambo more dimension than we've ever seen before. Give him a pet. A dog. Chickens. I could see a cat. Like Jones in Alien. Maybe even give him a small, cheapass black and white TV with a metal hangar for an antenna. Show that he DOES have at least a passing interest in world events. I could see him eating rice and idly watching a news program about violence in the world. Cut to his face, close up, so we can get a sense of his thoughts--he knows he might still be useful. It's just that right now, getting on in years, he'd rather not HAVE to be needed. And please have Rambo shoot some people with regular arrows. The exploding tips thing was done 20 years ago, and revisiting it would border on self-parody.
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Seriously how can any of you goons be raving over this mess? Its the illiest shit Ive ever seen. Ripping a mans throat with your bare hands?
A one handed Head-Lop? are you serious? This is beyond parody.
I love how when he's cookin in his shack he still wears the bandana, like he's afraid we wont know who he is. He's like ryu from the Street fighter cartoon shopping for milk in his Gi.
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I had an idea where Burma was, over by Vietnam, but couldn't exactly picture it in my mind. Here's a map for other knuckleheads like me, so you know where the blood will spill.
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a lot of people were dissapointed with Rocky Balboa because they were comparing it to the action of the others, and for them Balboa didn't have enough action.
Now this tells me that Rambo IV will have action, and more gore.
So, it seems Sly is giving the rather deflated rocky fans a major BOOST with this one, turning the action to full throttle, and of course telling a very important humaitarian story while he is at hit...
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Thank you John Rambo for making horrific violence fun again.
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please let it be at least two hours worth !!!
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It's about time someone put out an action movie with balls....this movie maybe the best fucking action movie we've seen in the past 15 years....Thanks Sly!
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Most people seem to be basing their assumptions on the trailer alone. I'll be rolling on the ground laughing, but not at all surprised, if this turns out to have a strong anti-violence/anti-war message at the end. That could be the very reason why the violence is so gory, and over-the-top.
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I don't understand why this trailer has been released with such a low quality picture, as well as the fact that the aspect ratio is fucked. I've found a link to a fixed aspect ratio version: http://tinyurl.com/2hf9ov But I can't find a high def version, any ideas?
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They Rocked His Boat, and Paid the Price... RAMBOAT !!
Burma's gonna need one thing, ... A GOOD SUPPLY OF BODY BAGS !!!!!
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Except for First Blood, I'm not a fan of the rambo films ... but that trailer has gotten me excited!
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about Stallone's drug smuggling charges?
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Well, I watched the trailer for Rambo and I think I pissed myself.
No wait... I did, in fact, piss myself.
I miss "Man Movies". I miss going to the theatre and walking out with a grin on my face because I actually had a great time. Not under-whelmed by some fantastic "chick flick" storyline, or WoWed with 96% watered-down violence... but, instead, EXCITED by reality on the screen.
As a soldier myself, I know you don't walk into combat and start "disabling" enemies with ignorant arm-locks and cheesy martial arts moves. You take them out. And when one thinks of Rambo, the only thing that comes to mind should be the man expertly trained in doing just that. Watching this trailer tells me that that is exactly the direction you guys have gone with this film.
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this looks great. Keep it coming, Sly. Looks awesome. It seems you can do no wrong, these days. We like that.
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Not sure I would agree with the people who are hoping for the explanation regarding the method to Rambo's madness, here. Rambo always had a good reason to blow everyone up and he did it very well. I wouldn't say that I would have had a real need to actually see this in the theater, but after seeing this preview, I will definitely do so. If Sly cut this trailer himself then he should think about going into the editing business...very powerful, intense preview...I got goose bumps. Great job!
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Now THAT looks like a guy who could eat things that would make a billy-goat puke!
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Sly checked in with SOF and found that Burma is a nasty hot spot.
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When I first heard that Sly was making another Rambo... I was horrified. "Your too old"... "This will NEVER work". The fact is that First Blood/ Rambo has become such an ICONIC movie that no matter how hard one tries, it will never be as good as the others.
HOWEVER... after seeing this in it's raw form... I am THRILLED! The GORE aspect is taken to a NEW level that I think is a MUST for this movie. We have seen the OLD worn down Rambo that is tired of war and trying to escape... we have seen that he sticks up for other people and risks his life to save them... What we have NOT SEEN is the brutailty, gore and ANIMAL INSTINCTS that RAMBO has. THIS is where the movie "John Rambo" needs to go.
I just fear that after all of the cuts and edits... we will be left with a watered down version of a movie that could possibly be one of the best 80s sequal yet.
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The UNNECESSARY blood could take you out of the moment. And by unnecessary I am referring to the part where he shoots up the truck that is driving toward him and the blood explodes upward and all about. The beheading, great. Shooting the guy up close with that 50 was perfect. It was gory but it was believably gory. It was real. I know Stallone knows how to write a script, so I'm not terribly worried about his bad guys being underdeveloped or forced plot twists. He knows how easy it is to become wrapped up in the violence and machismo and let the story fall by the waside, and I'm sure he'll handle it deftly. Nothing beats Stallone when he's focused. But like I said, when the gore is necessary (the gutting, the 50 at close range etc), pile it on. But people in general want this movie to be a joke and had written it off as such the second they heard there would be another rambo. Draw them in with just enough restraint, and then rock their faces off by really delivering on the brutality of realistically depicting a genocide. Maybe you'll even get some people thinking.
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I actually lept with excitement when I watched this. The focus in on rambo behind the guy right before he gives him the chop. It felt like an unholy amalgamation of classic and brand new. Really excited to see this. I saw Rocky Balboa 4 times in the theatres, and still got pumped everytime. I'm also jazzed about Poe. Keep em coming!!
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Looking tight.
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I like this version of Rambo, At first I was skeptical but going by the trailer I was surprised at be the spfx. It does make this version a little bloody but there has been more violent movies than this one. Back in the days of the first Rambo we thought back then it was pretty violent so the V factor is a given. This Rambo movie is edgier and it feels like the first time but better.
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It feels strange to be getting it. THANKS DOUBLE S!
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This film should be the roadmap for our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Kill and behead every last one of them...of course, John Rambo would probably be cut down by friendly fire within days of his incursion, but that's beside the point!
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alright then I'm definatly interested in seeing this now. As long as that level of gore stays. Hopefully it won't be too cut.
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I loved the grit and (as far as I know) realistic approach to the violence. Big knives and .50 cals will do that to those poor fellows in the Jeeps. Was that the arrow or a land mine that detonated?
Anyway, While that music was perfect (PERFECT) for this trailer, I'm not sure I want it in the final movie. I'm not sure how I feel about the religious aspect either. That fellow says something about pardoning, then we're promptly witness to the awesome not-pardoning to follow. Aside from that, I'm juiced.
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Please do another 200 questions with the fans!!!! This trailer, while rough, shows the soul of what Rambo has become. The first 2 minutes shows his heart, and the final 1:29 shows Rambo's soul. A trained soldier who gives back the hell that is deserved to the depraved. As I stated in an earlier post, this is what we(the middle aged crowd) are looking forward to. Not the special effects laden box office smash of Spidey, but the Vengance felt, get even with extreme predjudice that only a film like John Rambo can deliver. We want this film so bad, I have 40 year olds asking if I can get a rough unfinished, pirated copy for them to enjoy at home!!!!!
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Fuck yeah! In fact, Double Fuck Yeah! That shit is beyond awesome. I felt that same feeling like when I was a kid watching Robocop or Evil Dead 2, or Death Wish 3 for the first time seeing that preview you put together. That music at the end is fucking awesome too. Beyond nice, Sly.You did it. It'll be straight crime if Hollywood blows this and tones down on the gore to get a wider audience. Fuck that. KILL EM' RAMBO!!!!YAY!!!!
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The clip got me wanting to watch it all - hope to see it in the cinemas soon! Seems like a good story line and plenty of action. I think it will suit both genders (me being female).
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/features/columns/e3idbe743c6b1307f6d6cb8570d931d4309
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The final product better be good cause the trailer makes it look like the best movie ever made
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Wow. When is this movie coming out. I think that Stallone with the most recent Rocky and now Rambo reviving two of the most celebrated movie franchises from the 80's. Keep up the good work Sly.
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I was bored with the clip until the high-octane gore kicked in. When I saw that, I got onboard for this one. I say let Stallone direct the next Punisher movie, I think he would be able to do the character more justice than have him cooking dinner & working on old hot rods.
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Come to Trailer Park in Hollywood. I would love to give you an amazing trailer. First Blood is one of my favorite movies and it would be an honor to work on John Rambo. Ok that was a shameless plug, but the movie looks like it's gonna be cool. Back to the old Rambo!!!!
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Sly this looks to be as great as the first three. i am a huge fan and have been since the first rocky movie came out 30 years ago.... its great to see you back on the big screen. Looking so forward to seeing this as soon as it comes out. I have just about every movie you've ever made.
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This is the 80's all over again and I love it..When's the next one, it's about time we get a good bloody action movie and nothing to do with pirates!!!!
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I truly hope this movie is a success, because it will then usher in more R-Rated action films. No more watered down PG-13 fair. But, while your reading this Sly, maybe you can explain your extreme anti-2nd Ammendment stance quoted from several sources? While you're contemplating your position, take the time to read this: http://www.a-human-right.com/
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Hi Sly,
Hope this actually gets to you and would like to say that this clip gave me a lot of hope that this movie can breathe some new life into the Action Genre (been needing it for years!).
It looks to me as if John Rambo has been stripped of all the baggage left over from Rambo 2 & 3 and the character is returning to its real roots from First Blood.
The only worries I have are that although I get Rambo as the "hack someone's head off with his bare hands" kind of guy, my main concern without having seen any other parts of the movie is that his motivation for his turn into the violent killer hell-bent of death, destruction and revenge will appear too forced. This was one of the main problems I had with Rambo 2 & 3 and I hope his decision to go rescue these guys is really fleshed out. Furthermore, although every Rambo movie has had its political "preachy" points to make, Rambo 3 suffered too much from "USA A-Okay" and I am hoping that the attack on the Burmese regime (although brutal) is handled with a little more finesse and doesnt become the point for the movie, rather than a part of it. Rambo has always been a true personal story of a man struggling to live in the times that have been created for him and I hope that the main struggle will be that of John Rambo.
Inspired casting choice of Paul Schulze (24's Ryan Chappelle) in a part where he seems to finally get involved in some action. Top quality actor who from the clip seemed to add some immediate impact to the movie.
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there is so much more you can do with Rambo, if it does well, please continue the journey !!!
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They pull him back in!! That was awesome! It is so great to see an old '80's icon come back and dominate! It had an 80's feel to it for sure, but it was so refreshing to see. I as well as others could probably have cared less to see another Rambo, but Sly, you dusted off the cobwebs, and kicked ass!! First Rocky Balboa, now John Rambo, lets leave John Spartan alone though ok?
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Wheres the scar under his eye from First blood part II, or are they gonna digitally put that in, or did they just forget about it, i know it's a small detail but hey it's needed i think.
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When are we gonna get a Tango and Cash Sequel!!
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I wasn't expecting anything like this. Great job, can't wait to stand in line an watch this.
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I'm not sure how much control you've retained over these things, but I plead with you, don't let the marketing peeps water your film down for a wider audience, it will back fire. I'm afraid we're about to see that happen with Die Hard 4. I long for the days of hard core action movies starring guys like you, based on your awesome trailer, looks like those days might be back, if only for a few hours. Good times. Thanks man.
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I’m new to this talk back stuff, and I hardly post on sites period, but I just had to for this one. I am so sick of these crappy action movies that have been coming out the last few years. The filmmakers hide their bad choreography with fast edited fights where you can’t see a thing. I mean they zoom their shots in so close, you cannot even tell who is shooting who! The previous Rambo movies actually set the bar for action with story. All the great things about action movies were invented in the various Rambo films. Sly you are a talented filmmaker and you prove it on so many levels. This Rambo clip is a breath of fresh air. Sly is doing this movie for the fans, just like Rocky Balboa. I’d like to personally thank Stallone for being the only one out there trying to do something great. Thanks Stallone, you are one of the greats and will remain an icon for life (like Brando, Fonda, and John Wayne). Rocky Balboa was the best movie of last year and I’m sure John Rambo will be the best of 2008. I can guarantee that it’ll be the best action movie in the last 10 years!
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I can't get enough of the music from the old films especially the hardcore tracks that I can only relate to rattle snacks or barb wire. I hope he incorporates it in the new film. I think it's as important as "gonna fly now" for rocky.
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Mr. Stallone,
Thank you so much. First a great ending to your Rocky series, and now it looks like the same for the Rambo series. The action makes me think back to my childhood of 80's action movies, and I love it! How about a Demolition Man follow up now? Please....
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would be cool!
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Well, you asked for honest feedback.
First and foremost, I like the tone of Rambo here. He seems to have found a place where he can just live, and put a lot of his past behind him. Given his past, that is exactly what I would expect at this point.
He, as a character, has never seemed to be comfortable with what he is capable of, and I think this clip shows that he's just trying to live his life, his way.
The woman is about as annoying as they come. I understand the need, with the plot this seems to be going with, that there has to be some sort of pollyanna pain in the rear that Rambo is going to have to end up saving. However, it seems she's doing it just to do it. Granted, we didn't get a good take on her motivation for getting into Burma, however I'll be really disappointed if it turns out she's some rich chick on a save the world kick. Hell, I'd shoot her myself for that.
Given the limited background in the clip, however, I'll reserve judgment until I see the movie.
The violence. I'm of two minds here. On one hand, it isn't, nor should it be portrayed as, something from the John Wayne era, where even those that die don't have a spot on them.
However, on the other hand, it seems a bit over the top. The scene in the truck was excessive, and the gutting of the rapist was a little much. I'm not opposed to violence in movies, if it moves the story along, but this seems to be done just for the sake of getting a "hell yeah!" reaction from the GTA crowd.
Overall, I'm looking forward to the movie, and like many on here, I can't think SS enough for revisiting and adding some closing chapters to some of the most iconic characters in movie history.
I would however, like to see the depth brought to Rambo that you showed with Rocky.
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I'm not even a Rambo, violent movie, and/or action movie fan - but that kicked ass! It had some fucked up shit going on that would actually make anybody snap (making the motivation believable) and then it completely emulates a dream sequence that you might have if you were to dream about what you would do if anything like this happened to people you love.
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Don't change a thing! Can't wait to watch...
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At first, i was like why is he doing Rambo. 1 and 2 were awesome. 3 was meh. But after I saw this i was blown away. F**k the MPAA. Leave it all in or as much as you can. I personally wouldnt care if they rated it whatever is after R. I would go see it. This is Rambo. Pure and simple. So for everyone who is a baby and doesnt like the violence go watch the teletubbies ya bunch of babys
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From the looks of it, it seems that Mr. Sly is taking us back to the 80's and adding some updated effects. It's cool, it's a little camp - and it's Sly as we know him. Way to go - i for one will be lining up for the premier
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teaser, i have seen it probably over a 1000 times, man sly in my opinion is the best, he is the king of the underdog story, i dont care what anyone says, and now he has added this to his resume, and wow it's awesome, cant wait to see the finished product
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"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Nu Image, Inc./Millennium Films". They're starting to pull the trailer links from YouTube, why? Around two million people have watched the various links on YouTube, and the reaction has been incredibly positive. Mr. Stallone, if by some miracle you're still reading this Talkback, do not pull the trailer, I've been linking it all over the web, and everywhere the reaction is positive. As well as tearing out guys throats, you're also shooting yourself in the foot.
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do do do do
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Take it back, do do do do
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I don't know why I should even try
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take it back in my life
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that you can't live without this talkback
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bumping this here thread.
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Can't be bothered anymore :)
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Sly, I can not express to you more how much you are the man. The trailer is just what real fans of yours want, hardcore 80's style action! Not this CGI pretty boy shit that hollywood churns out on a weekly basis. John Rambo is back!!
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I'm a huge Sly fan and loved 'Rocky Balboa' but was skeptical about his plans to do another 'Rambo' film and thought that it would undo the good work 'RB' had done in re-establishing his career. Much like the situation after 'Copland' when he re-defined himself with a really good performance and then stuffed it up by making some bad choices. I would rather he directed 'Poe' and finished his career behind the camera rather than in front of it (Mel Gibson/ Clint Eastwood style, which I guess is kind of what he's doing). After seeing this trailer though I have become a believer that he has something important to say about the action genre with this take on 'Rambo'. I think that's it's great that he is directing it himself and hope he doesn't edit the film for commercial reasons. The graphic violence is important in displaying, really for the first time, the pre 'First Blood' John Rambo. The Green Beret who was an absolute killing machine. It sets the other films in an interesting context in that (despite the violence) the character was holding back. This Rambo would absolutely destroy any of the other 'action' heroes in cinema at the moment, and it's giving the genre itself a re-examination. There's not even a hint of vanity in this version and I love that.
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Great forum, great trailer... and great choice for composer for this pic! (if I was the director he would have been my pick too) I am a big big fan and collector of filmscores since 1990, sadly Goldsmith is not longer among us to score this newest installment of the Rambo franchise but there is a new kid on the block; Brian Tyler. This guy is great! He is in his 30's, and he grew up watching all those great 80's movies, so he will exactly know which buttons to push. I bet they hired him because of his work for "the Hunted". Which is a kind of Rambo movie, isn't it? Trust me, his Rambo score will rock! It will be aggressive, with lots of rythms and great Goldsmithian feel! I am sure of it! Brian Tyler will rock! for more info... http://www.briantyler.com/
I am sooooo happy that there will be no Media Venture shit in this movie (that's "filmmusic" produced/composed by Hans Zimmer and friends, Hans stick with Bruckheimer thank you.)
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Will we see him eat something that'll make a billy Goat sick.
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A clip about this trailer and the buzz it has generated here and on the rest of the web http://tinyurl.com/yw53st
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Thanks C Legion, thats was interesting indeed, man in away i am so happy that stallone put this here for us to see but now i am pissed that i have to wait another year to see the whole thing
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I agree with 'Ol Painless.' Brian Tyler is an excellent composer and is the perfect choice for this film. By the way, he actually replaced his hero Jerry Goldsmith when he scored "Timeline" that Richard Donner directed. And he scored "Star Trek" and the upcoming "Aliens" movie which Goldsmith originally scored so there is a lot of crossover there. "First Blood" is a great score.
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I hope this movie is as offensive, and macabre, as it appears. It should serve as a scourge, a cold, stern, bitter backlash, to our western blithe, and aloof, everything is working, civil civilization, demeanor. Let's face the facts, this does take place, this is not a fictionalization, written by the pen of a pervert, but a genuine depiction, of the atrocities, occulted under the cloth, of commercial sensibilities. So i say, go Sly, right on, make this installment as explicit, and graphic, as far as you can gave away with, as long as you don't forget to, to make this picture informative as well. my sincerest regards The Ape
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The trailer is nothing, if you like it you will love the movie!! There are some very disturbing scenes including children being shot, I doubt that half the footage I've seen will get past the censors!!!!
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Can i ask why the hell has the website for Millenium films has a fan made poster which clearly states "Rambo V" and the description for the film is that old one where Rambo comes out of hiding to find his daughter.
http://www.millenniumfilms.com/
And anyone know what the copyright issue is with:
http://www.ramboiv.moonfruit.com/
I'm very confused the Millenium Website is doesnt even seem to be complete theres nothing even on the press page????
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вы все уроды
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Coming june of 09.
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I've seen the first three Rambo films and as many of you, I grew up watching Stallone.
First, the first 1:17 trailer (titled a trailer on joblo.com) for this Rambo film looks cool, but it's more of a compilation of violent clips fronted by several words than an actual trailer. Sure the gorilla warefare looks furious and intense (the way it should be) but this movie will be all shock and no substance if it lacks good character development. Stallone gave good insight into his Rocky character in Rocky Balboa and made me like like his Rocky character again. Naturally Rambo is an action film. Nonetheless, it's important Stallone does a good job re-developing the character of Rambo after all these years so that audiences understand and like this hero again. I understand the film is at its core an action-thriller. Before the rocket takes off there needs to be a strong foundation.
Second, we need a good reason to despise the bad guys and I hope this film shows it the way Mel Gibson as director made us despise the enemy in Braveheart for instance. I also liked the character development in Man on Fire with Denzel Washington and the girl but the second half of the film, the violence was actions I've seen before in other films and the camera cut way too many times. In Man on Fire I thought the character development first half of the film was much better than the quick cuts and over editing of the action during the second. But I liked the buildup to when they kidnapped the little girl in Man on Fire and the rage of when he went after them. A Rambo film doesn't have a little kidnapped girl most likely but it should have a strong first half and a strong second half and have good character development as well as great action, and not change angles every second during a brawl because we can't see the fluid motions of the fight or if there are any at all with the cheating of over editing and directing.
Second, in the 80's, action hero's often plowed through a hundred bad guys like bowling pins and gradually into the 90's, (although it existed at times in the 80's) having a great match-up between hero and an intimidating, powerful, maybe even frightening (and memorable) villain (super villain) is important. It ups the ante' and intensity and shows that the hero isn't this perfectly invulnerable fighter that we can't take seriously or relate to in the end. Stallone knows a thing or two about good match-ups through the Rocky films and even the fights with him Vs Wesley Snipes character via Demolition Man was pretty good (for instance) but this film must go beyond if Stallone really wants to grab his audience tighter and compliment this film in more ways. It short, the competitive sequences after extended bursts of ultra-violent action with less powerful foes that seem to be spatter-house excuses (at times) here need to exist and be awesome. If the film is simply a run-and-gun movie without bosses or powerful bad guys (and some development, not just "I'm gonna kill you" cliche crap so to speak, the action itself will be likely become repetitive no matter how bloody, gory, or over-the-top. Show that this will be no easy mission! One thing I've always liked about the Rambo films is they don't shy away from getting dirty and bloody. I hope this film employs a great competitive one-on-one fight occasionally (as the Bourne films have now done but in Rambo style obviously) and leaving the best for last.
Third, let the camera breath as people charge and hit and throw weapons like knives, etc... a la "The Protector" with Tony Jaa with the hand-to-hand combat and Braveheart with the weapon fighting. Don't change angles a million times so we can't see who's hitting who.. but have excellent staging and choreography! And if you're going to employ some CGI damn it we better not notice it.
Third, the score and music is important. Music goes a long way when done right, to compliment the "intense" action or the mood otherwise. I hope the score on this one is excellent. The relentless beat in the trailer is good for fighting. And hopefully if they use any of that in the film it isn't played out. During moments of non-violence, certain emotive ambient pieces can work wonders if chosen by an aware person who understands the mood the director, vision is going for.
Forth, Plot/Story - Obviously there's a reason why Rambo is more angry than ever before. It should be made clear what's going on and why. From the so-called trailer I have no idea what the film is about other than Rambo killing tons of people. In short, have a good plot/story, some moments of surprise, twists, and clever bursts of OMG, WOW!!! - HOLY SHIT!!! never hurt anyone that I know, and get a great trailer out for the mainstream when finished. A trailer with limbs being blown off and babies being thrown into the fire is acceptable in the film relative to the harsh environment and situations of peril and chaos, but that cannot be in a mainstream on television and in the movies trailer. And market this movie well as they did with Rocky! I hope this movie is awesome and loaded with greatness, not just violence but great character, plot, music, confrontations, beginning, middle, end, moments of SUSPENCE and STEALTH and greatness in violence too. After all it is a Rambo film.
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