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De Niro and Pacino together again? In a cat and mouse serial killer flick!?!?

Published at:  May 18, 2007 3:10:46 AM CDT

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Count me excited about this one. Definitely...

I love me a good cat and mouse movie and this one sounds great.

Jon Avnet is producing a flick called RIGHTEOUS KILL with Robert De Niro and Al Pacino playing NY detectives both hunting a serial killer. Russell Gerwitz (INSIDE MAN) wrote the script and the movie is being funded independently.

Great, great news, especially since they're assuring the public that Pacino and De Niro share the screen for most of the movie, unlike their other pairings which have either resulted in no shared scenes or a single sequence (HEAT).

I loved INSIDE MAN and I want Pacino and De Niro to be awesome again. I have high hopes for the project.




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  • May 18, 2007 3:12:31 AM CDT

    Heat

    by fluffybunnywhiskers

    Had two scenes together. Not just one.

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  • May 18, 2007 3:13:19 AM CDT

    Also...

    by fluffybunnywhiskers

    Also, sounds good. Read about this earlier. Pacino is great, De Niro also pretty great. So, coolness.

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  • May 18, 2007 3:14:03 AM CDT

    this could be interesting

    by rivers1994

    as long as its good and not some suckfest like 15 minutes

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  • May 18, 2007 3:15:20 AM CDT

    Get Jack in there somehow...

    by shermdawg

    ...while we still have the chance.

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  • May 18, 2007 3:16:20 AM CDT

    Nu Image/Millenium/Whatever.

    by tourist

    They took fairly stellar casts and crews, somewhat promising concepts, and turned them into dog shit. Wicker Man, Black Dhalia, 16 Blocks, all almost unwatchably bad. I'm not exagerating for effect either. Really appaling, cheap, tatty flicks. I got a suspicion they are laundering drug money or something. I don't know how else to explain such discrepency between talent, budget and the end product. Maybe they are shooting to be the new Cannon.

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  • May 18, 2007 3:23:00 AM CDT

    Two greats

    by mr_x

    Watched scarface again the other day, pacino at his finest. to be honest both pacinoa and deniro have been doing films of late that havent been on par with their obvious talents. I'm hoping the scipt is top notch and it does them justice.

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  • May 18, 2007 3:26:18 AM CDT

    Definitely get Jack in there

    by smellmycheese

    That would be awesome.

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  • May 18, 2007 3:27:00 AM CDT

    Heat...

    by loafroaster

    Actually, they never appear together in Heat. Watch it again, it may look like they're in the same scenes, like the restaurant bit about halfway through, and the climax, but it's just body doubles and clever editing. You don't see both the actor's faces from the front at any time. Ditto for Scarface (De Niro appears in heavy makeup at the end, he's the guy who shoots Tony Montana with a shotgun from behind).

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  • May 18, 2007 3:32:45 AM CDT

    Hmmm...

    by bruce leroy

    Sounds good. Hope we'll seen some more interaction between them then they had in Heat. Another thing...wil Al Pacino yell in this movie too? "I'M A FAN OF MAAAAN!!!" heheheh...sorry couldn't help my self.

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  • May 18, 2007 3:38:50 AM CDT

    loaf

    by fluffybunnywhiskers

    Nope. You see a side angle of them both sitting at the table together at one point. Nice try though.

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  • May 18, 2007 3:40:41 AM CDT

    Hated the way Heat ended

    by doc_strange

    It could have been Michael Mann's greatest movie had the ending been different. Fuck, I get pissed when I think about it.

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  • May 18, 2007 3:41:15 AM CDT

    fluffybunnywhiskers

    by loafroaster

    You sure? I stand corrected! Gotta watch that again now...

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  • May 18, 2007 3:41:54 AM CDT

    I hope this is good...

    by bnitt

    I hope this is good...not DeNiro and Pacino trying to live up to yesteryear. Heat was brilliant. Their 5 mins together on screen is cinema at its finest. No need to put them together unless this project out does Heat. In My opinion, Michael Mann understood the DeNiro/Pacino dynamics best. No need for a hack to try to reproduce test tube babies. Nuff said.

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  • May 18, 2007 3:54:32 AM CDT

    Doc_Strange

    by loafroaster

    Gotta disagree, the ending was amazing! "I told you I'm never going back"...Moby's 'God moving over the face of waters'...sublime.

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  • May 18, 2007 3:57:19 AM CDT

    Indeed...

    by quintus_arrius

    .... this IS cool news...

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  • May 18, 2007 4:07:00 AM CDT

    Finally

    by supersize

    You guys post this !Ok I'm satisfied and sounds great

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  • May 18, 2007 4:19:20 AM CDT

    I hope it aint forced......

    by seph_j

    .... as in "lets write a script with DeNiro and Pacino together". Its better if the script existed first, and was really good, and THATS why they both signed on.

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  • May 18, 2007 4:25:24 AM CDT

    The only problem with Heat's ending...

    by the mothman

    ...is that Mann tried to replicate the 'well, isn't it strange how we ended up like this' mood for Collateral. For my money, it didn't work. "The bullets and the fall killed him." Damn that line annoys me. How exactly did the bullets escape the gun Tom?

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  • May 18, 2007 4:35:52 AM CDT

    De Niro cant act. Sorry. Cant act.

    by wowsah156

    Who told De Niro he could act anyway? He's rubbish. He is like a plank of wood. He only had one good movie abd that was Taxi Driver. Everything else has been a blank piece of wood. De Niro cant act!! And Pacino?! Haaaaaaaaam. So will i pay to see a plank of wood emote with a piece of Haaaaaaaam? No. Blane Hoolyweird. Their criteria for what makes a good actor seems to be different from everywhere else.

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  • May 18, 2007 4:36:06 AM CDT

    This sound like a fucked up project to me !

    by bisoucaillou

    The director and producers of 88 Minutes, one of the biggest crap I've seen this year. I know Al Pacino play in movies those last years only to pay his taxes. De Niro too. And they reunite ? No fucking surprise !

    This already stinks like shit.

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  • May 18, 2007 4:55:39 AM CDT

    wowsah156

    by loafroaster

    I know I shouldn't really react to that, but...De Niro in Godfather II? Raging Bull? Goodfellas? The Deer Hunter? The Mission? And so the list goes on. I agree that Pacino has got frighteningly hammy in his old age (Devil's Advocate...uhhh), but for Godfather I and II, he is untouchable.

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  • May 18, 2007 5:12:00 AM CDT

    Hope this gets made.

    by c legion

    And if it is, I hope its done right, it could be fucking awesome. I've been waiting and hoping for thses two to get together again before one of the fuckers kicks the bucket.

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  • May 18, 2007 5:20:46 AM CDT

    Both are acting geniuses

    by frank_serpico

    Agreed that movie choices for both have dropped in quality a lot. Pacino's last truly great performance was in Insomnia while I cant even recall DeNiro's last good movie choice. But they still kick ass and are tons better than the crap emo actors we have today.
    Only a handful of current actors have the talent which these two had in thier prime. It pisses me off no end to see ppl comparing pretty boy wusses like DiCaprio in The Departed to Brando/Pacino/Deniro.

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  • May 18, 2007 5:22:27 AM CDT

    Cool!

    by onefatman

    If it was 10 or 20 years ago. But both of those guys used to be two of the greatest actors anywhere ever, whose carreers have just massively high-dived. Seriously - Pacino. Was. In. Gigli. And De Niro? Shark Tale, Rocky and Bullwinkle, Hide and Seek, Godsend, Showtime. It seems like they both realise they're on the way out and they need to give each other a boost, so they're going back to back so that ten buhjillion people go "i love heat! i'm paying money to see this".

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  • May 18, 2007 5:28:06 AM CDT

    Hmmmm

    by bad_lieutenant121

    It would be good to see Jack in this but I have a feeling that this will be more like The Score rather than Heat.. Bring in a better director and we may have something special.. Mann would be obvious and credible but how about a Pacino and Scorcese pairing.. A fairytale that needs to be told!!!

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  • May 18, 2007 5:30:38 AM CDT

    That being said . . .

    by onefatman

    I love heat and I am totally paying money to go see this. *closes eyes crosses fingers rocks back and forth* "please be cool, please be cool, please be cool . . . "

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  • May 18, 2007 5:58:42 AM CDT

    Wow, a thriller about a serial killer!

    by jackpumpkinhead

    That's fresh. Anyway, can we start remaking it while it's being shot? It will save the effort in, say, 5 years.

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  • May 18, 2007 6:19:23 AM CDT

    Wowsah

    by pistolwhipper

    You are one fucked up individual ma' boy. Pacino is arguably the finest actor of his generation. DeNiro – while falling into the comedy trap and the shit that inevitably follows has dropped in the last decade or so – is also one of the finest actors in the last 20-30 years.

    Who's your favourite actor of recent times, fuckface? Tom Hanks? Shia? That Mac guy? Get the fuck back to your room and jerk off to the Seers catalog you little punk.

    *Damn. Responded to flame bait...*

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  • May 18, 2007 6:25:43 AM CDT

    Wicker Man Comedy re-edits on youtube.

    by shan

    Just type in "Wicker Man Comedy" into Youtube and by the mere act of editing together the silliest sequences into 2 or so minutes, it's much more entertaining.

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  • May 18, 2007 6:42:19 AM CDT

    Thanks, loafroaster

    by franklin t marmoset

    "De Niro appears in heavy makeup at the end, he's the guy who shoots Tony Montana with a shotgun from behind" - That was pretty funny.Also, I heard De Niro was heavily made up to look like Warren Beatty for all of his scenes with Al Pacino in Dick Tracy. Those same make up guys did a great job making De Niro look like a naked Ellen Barkin for the Sea Of Love sex scenes. And who can forget their memorable scenes together in Serpico? De Niro was heavily made up as Pacino's beard in that one.

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  • May 18, 2007 6:54:12 AM CDT

    Heat's ending ruled

    by digitaldong

    De Niro's character always got away form doing bad stuff. He does one good deed ( killing Waynegrow )and he pays for it with his life. A small victory for Pacino's character who's step-daughter just tried to kill herself, his wife gets around, and he couldn't find any trace of Kilmer of De Niro's characters after they got a tip handed to them. I always wanted an extended ending to Heat where Pacino's character finds out De Niro just iced a serial killer who gave Pacino's character more grief then the heists he was trying to solve and show him feel like shit cause he killed a guy who actually did something no one else could. If they had different lives they coudl have been friends. What a depressing ending on both camps.

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  • May 18, 2007 7:21:02 AM CDT

    Hey wowsah...

    by zarles

    You might as well shoot yourself now, man. You're already obviously deaf and blind, so what's the use of going on any longer? Hey, you've had a good 9 years on the planet. That ain't too bad.

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  • May 18, 2007 7:32:01 AM CDT

    Probably not a realistic idea, but.....

    by barry egan

    when Mann made Heat, he should have had DeNiro and Pacino play both roles and then cut two different versions of the movie.

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  • May 18, 2007 7:51:09 AM CDT

    Nice work, wowsah156

    by franklin t marmoset

    You keep plugging away with your controversial opinions! I look forward to your posts on how Shakespeare couldn't write for shit, Pizza doesn't taste great, and vaginas aren't a fun place to stick your weiner.

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  • May 18, 2007 7:52:39 AM CDT

    Good vibes on this one.

    by stuntcock mike

    I'm thinkin' goodness.

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  • May 18, 2007 8:01:39 AM CDT

    I' love to see Al's "Sonny" and Deniro's "Travis"

    by kikuchiyoboy

    in a buddy cop film. But done Bad Lieutenant style. The film would end in flames. Sonny patience would very thin with Travis. I could watch a whole movie of them just driving in a car all day like cops do. All the while making comments of the ongoings in the area. That's a nice 80 minute film there.


    Or they could play the two devils.His Louis and Al's John. It could be like Oh God You Devil. But instead it could be called Oh Devil You Devil and they play the same devil two different emotions. GIVE ME A DEAL!

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  • May 18, 2007 8:03:44 AM CDT

    They had better be named Tom and Jerry.

    by durhay

    Lemme guess, Sean Penn is the serial killer?

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  • May 18, 2007 8:18:03 AM CDT

    The Inside Man: A Disjointed Spike Lee Joint

    by spandau belly

    That was the worst movie I saw whatever summer it came out.Horrible plot that made no sense, characters who in no way reacted to each other, no tension, obvious twists, bad directorial style, wacky humour about Albanians, endless irrelevant subplots, pointless 'Crash' moments about racial tensions in the big city etc. etc. etc.I can't think of a thriller that makes more mistakes and deflates its own potential more at every turn. Inside Man was beyond terrible.

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  • May 18, 2007 8:41:45 AM CDT

    15 year too late

    by white goodman

    This would have been great in 1992.

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  • May 18, 2007 8:45:24 AM CDT

    Awesome.

    by skidmarkedundies

    Simply awesome.

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  • May 18, 2007 8:55:15 AM CDT

    Scent of a Woman

    by norseman1111

    If you look carefully you will see that it's De Niro that Al is dancing the tango with. Lots of makeup, but its him.

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  • May 18, 2007 9:26:22 AM CDT

    DeNiro is washed up

    by magic rat

    has been for this entire decade.

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  • May 18, 2007 9:34:06 AM CDT

    DeNiro hasn't made a good movie since Ronin

    by spandau belly

    And that was a long time ago.

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  • May 18, 2007 9:51:36 AM CDT

    This better be good

    by cherryvalance

    You have arguably the two best living actors in a movie together where they will share enough screentime. Great. But if something else doesn't go right, then it'll seem like a wasted opportunity. But Inside Man was great so that is a good sign. I can't imagine not seeing this on opening day. I hope the serial killer isn't just some dude.

    I definitely prefer Pacino over DeNiro, but anyone who has anything negative to say about the acting ability of either of these two has to be their own cousin.

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  • May 18, 2007 9:53:24 AM CDT

    Am I blind or is there no mention of who's directing?

    by nice marmot

    It's reeking of a hastily thrown together easy money maker, but there might be a glimmer of hope with a kick ass director. And Inside Man wasn't THAT bad, SpandauBelly.

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  • May 18, 2007 9:59:10 AM CDT

    If Scorsese was directing this

    by jasper stillwell

    ..it would be very cool news indeed, as a result I suspect Pacino will huff and puff and shout a lot and DeNiro will nod sagely, arch his eyebrows and gurn a lot. At least the good news is that P. Anderson isn't involved I guess.

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  • May 18, 2007 10:01:05 AM CDT

    and anyway...

    by jasper stillwell

    ...in his day De Niro changed the face of screen acting totally and the rest of you whiny no-nothings can just fuck off!

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  • May 18, 2007 10:42:44 AM CDT

    Frank_Serpico

    by cherryvalance

    You know, back in the day, De Niro and Pacino were awful damn pretty themselves. Hell, De Niro looked like Josh Hartnett in Greetings. Leo's a good actor, give him time to get old and craggly.

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  • May 18, 2007 10:48:36 AM CDT

    "Venture and I...

    by billfro

    have been engaged in a deadly game of cat and also-cat for years!"

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  • May 18, 2007 11:02:53 AM CDT

    "Hooo Yaaa!" = "SCRREEEECHHHH!!"

    by hugeprawn

    ahhh pacino....as the years go by his acting becomes more and more over the top. I blame it on the movie "Scent of a Woman". This is the ONLY Pacino film I physically cannot watch. Pacino's character in Scent for me equates to fingernails running down a chalkboard. But for some reason he was awarded the Oscar for this hammy role - and like I said, ever since Al Pacino has never been the same.

    And concerning De Niro....well, I could go into his roles in Meet the Fockers and its sequels, or talk about the merits or lack thereof of the film Awakeings, but because of "The Deer Hunter" alone, De Niro will always get a pass.
    cheers

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  • May 18, 2007 11:23:40 AM CDT

    I wish Pacino let DeNiro's character go at the end

    by doc_strange

    As it was, the ending of Heat was depressing. I think it was cool that Val Kilmer's character got away, though. Hey what the fuck was that thing on Kilmer's arm anyway? It was so distracting I couldn't take my eyes off it, like a huge bump or something on his elbow.

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  • May 18, 2007 11:24:50 AM CDT

    Let's hope they both raise their respective games.

    by benbraddock

    I think - hope! - they both still got it. Pretty sure they do, but proof would be nice at this point. This could be an increasingly rare shot at "Great" for both of them, depending on who directs, natch. Both De Niro and Pacino are in slumps, have been for quite a few years now, give or take, so my fingers are well and truly crossed for a new classic of "Heat" proportions. And by the way, I found the ending of "Heat" very poignant. Brilliant use of music too.

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  • May 18, 2007 11:25:16 AM CDT

    Michelle Ryan is in this

    by emeraldboy

    as is Fay dunaway. could be a different movie.

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  • May 18, 2007 11:26:01 AM CDT

    no I am wrong its

    by emeraldboy

    a different movie, sorry

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  • May 18, 2007 11:27:46 AM CDT

    Doc_Strange - the lump on Kilmer's elbow

    by benbraddock

    Yeah, funny that, I noticed it for the first time watching the special edition on DVD again the other day.. what the FUCK was that? His undeveloped twin? Btw, come on, "Heat" was all the better for NOT having a happy ending

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  • May 18, 2007 11:31:00 AM CDT

    jonathan Ross said the following thing

    by emeraldboy

    "if there was a list of the greatest actors of all time Robert deniro would possibly come out on top."

    Er, wossy they did that list and Al pacino did. I think they are both past there sell bydates. He said that about the good shepard. That was not a great film.

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  • May 18, 2007 11:50:34 AM CDT

    Whoever stated De Niro can't act is an absolute moron!

    by maxhunter73

    ...yeah he may be in a slump in this millenia and with the bad material he's been choosing, comes mediocre performances...but the man is a legend and one of the greatest actors of our time...my advice is for you to take a look at his Scorsese resume alone...which should shut your fuckin' mouth once and for good.

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  • May 18, 2007 11:56:21 AM CDT

    Heat was great..........

    by sprinky

    but i was missing the interaction between de Niro and Pacino.

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  • May 18, 2007 12:04:55 PM CDT

    Having them in two scenes in Heat..

    by bigtuna

    Added to the "Special" feeling of that great film (The ending is fantastic BTW)This film sounds so cliched, and both are too old for their respective parts.

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  • May 18, 2007 12:23:25 PM CDT

    c'mon people

    by thefreeagents

    some you dudes would complain about getting hanged with a new rope. DeNiro and Pacino will bring the best out in each other for this.

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  • May 18, 2007 12:24:24 PM CDT

    Kilmer's elbow

    by cherryvalance

    I read somewhere that he hurt it as a kid and since his family was Christian Science they didn't take him to the doctor so it stayed that way. Don't know if it's true.

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  • May 18, 2007 12:39:07 PM CDT

    Honestly !! De Niro cant act. He cant. Sorry .

    by wowsah156

    Ok I dont dispute Raging Bull, ut that was merely a piece of wood with boxing gloves. GodfatherII was hilarious. Only reason the godfather movies got oscar nomination was because of mafia connections.Not because Godfather II was good . It wasnt. The Deerhunter: DeNiro was acted of the screen by Christopher Walken. In fact Walken carried that movie. De Niro was his usual blank slate self. Heat: in that movie he looked like a bored bank manager with medical issues. The irony was tom Sizemores performance carried that movie with its edginess and manic energy. The problem with Hollyweird is that in a city where everyone is acting, any sense of perspective is lost in crap. I mean he was even acted off the screen by William Shatner in Primetime. If anything Willian Shatner is a better actor than DeNiro.

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  • May 18, 2007 12:49:30 PM CDT

    Looking forward to it, but not if they listen to TBers

    by moa kaka

    and try to put Jack in it. De Niro and Pacino have shown great acting skill at some points in their careers. But Jack has always played Jack. He's the charicature in a room full of characters. That's great if you want a campy film or over-the-top film, but I wouldn't anticipate the movie as much.

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  • May 18, 2007 1:03:08 PM CDT

    In response to wowsah156 comment

    by hugeprawn

    De Niros acting in The Deer Hunter borders on Godlike. Listen, I'm not one of those people that will heap praise on actors just because it's the popular thing to do. I watch a movie with no preconceived notions about the actors in the movie. I give myself totally to the movie and the character therein. I suggest re-visiting The Deer Hunter with a clear mind. Wipe all thoughts of De Niro out of your head and approach the movie in a new way. Let De Niro become the character of Michael Vronsky and not De Niro. Watch how he plays the character with such understated conviction and sadness. Sure, that has sort of become De Niros stapes acting technique, but it works so well for this movie and that character that to dismiss his acting job as wooden is just wrong. Especially when you take the Russian roulette scene into play. You cannot call De Niro wooden during those minutes on screen when he "BECOMES" Michael Vronsky. De Niro disappears during that moment and right before our eyes we are transported to North Vietnam to witness humanity at its most raw. incredible.cheers

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  • May 18, 2007 1:12:59 PM CDT

    "WHOOOHAH!!"

    by skimn

    "You Talkin To Me?"
    "WHOOOHAH!!"
    "You Talkin To ME?"
    "WHOOHAH!!"
    "Uhhh..a little bit...little bit"
    ..the following has been brought to you by every "impressionist" in the world.

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  • May 18, 2007 2:11:12 PM CDT

    NICHOLSON...and Walken!!!!!!!!!!!

    by jbristow

    Add those two in, and I'm even more in. Or, f it, give Jack and Chris their own serial killer, cat & mouse movie...Walken and Nicholson are competing detectives going after a legendary, Dexter-esque serial killer...played by Crispin Glover.

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  • May 18, 2007 2:53:40 PM CDT

    Keitel for the killer.

    by nice marmot

    That is all.

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  • May 18, 2007 2:54:38 PM CDT

    Was just watching...

    by stuntcock mike

    one of the special features on the Heat dvd and Pacino was saying how he portrayed his character as a guy who maybe does a little coke now and then. Explains alot. 'You do not get to watch my MOTHERFUCKING TV"!

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  • May 18, 2007 3:21:09 PM CDT

    wowsah156... Examples that De Niro CAN ACT...

    by moto

    These are movies you need to revisit if you think he can't act:
    MEAN STREETS - not wooden at all there... TAXI DRIVER - you gave him that one, fine... The GODFATHER PART II - Don't mistake stillness for being wooden, he embodied the young version of Brando's Godfather... RAGING BULL- how can you say this performance was wooden at all? The rage that character had, etc., come on!... THE DEER HUNTER - Did you even watch the Vietnam sequences???? And again, don't mistake stillness as wooden... THE KING OF COMEDY - Probably his best overall performance!!! No wooden acting there, not at all!... BRAZIL - An eccentric turn for him... JACKNIFE - One of his better and most underrated roles... fucking GOODFELLAS - Hello wsah156, where are you??... AWAKENINGS - Dynamic performance... CAPE FEAR - Brilliant in a subpar movie... MIDNIGHT RUN - One of the best comedies, and one of his best performances... THIS BOY'S LIFE - Another brilliant frickin' performance...

    Dude, either you're under the age of, I don't know, 24 and have just seen bits and pieces of these movies while doing the A.D.D dance routine with your remote, OR you just don't understand talent and cinema.

    Now, keep in mind that I do think he's taken pretty lame and uninteresting roles since the 21st century began (with the exeption of his turn in MEET THE PARENTS), but to say the dude can't act? Give me a break, man!

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  • May 18, 2007 3:58:32 PM CDT

    This is a great idea.

    by mrfan

    Would love to see Pacino and DeNiro onscreen. They just didn't have enough scenes together in Heat.

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  • May 18, 2007 4:08:22 PM CDT

    moto

    by skimn

    thats the sad fact. He has been brilliant in the past. Maybe not his generations Brando, but pretty damn close. But his last good performance was at least 14 years ago. Like Brando, he needs a "Last Tango" to show the world his acting chops again.

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  • May 18, 2007 4:49:04 PM CDT

    They had to break the typecast

    by larry of arabia

    De Niro and Pachino had a big problem after all the Martin Scorese/mob/tough guy films - they were typecast. Nobody could or would see them as the guy next door, or a company man, or a high powered lawyer. So they are getting all these scripts where they plays a sorta toughguy, but wants other scripts. Those scripts aren't the best, though. They want Tom Hanks for those movies. So they take the lesser material with lesser directors.

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  • May 18, 2007 6:27:39 PM CDT

    Dr. Gonzo:

    by barry egan

    "An you had your head all the way up it!!!!!!!!!!" Pacino screaming "she had a great ass" at Hank Azaria is a little treasure from a life spent going to the movies.

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  • May 18, 2007 7:24:23 PM CDT

    Loved DeNiro in Midnight Run.

    by mrfan

    Great movie.

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  • May 18, 2007 7:29:37 PM CDT

    Pacino / Godlike

    by jjgittes

    Sounds like a tired idea, Avi Lerner is a wackjob and there's a crappy director.

    Still, try to stop me from seeing this on the first day of release.
    This is a must see no matter how it turns out.

    De Niro needs this more than Pacino. Pacino was GREAT as recently as "Angels in America" and "Merchant of Venice" - "Angels" is among his best performances ever. Some of you have no memory at all.

    Oh and as for "Gigli" - he's just IN it people it's not his fault it sucked, and he didn't suck (he rarely does) - what's he got 4 minutes of screen time?

    Give him a break already - dude's a national treasure who uncorks great performances onscreen or onstage every 2 years or so.

    Now, Bobby D. on the other hand, well, it's been a while.....


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  • May 18, 2007 7:48:58 PM CDT

    Am I the only one who liked 'The Score'...

    by alonzo mosely

    I didn't watch it for years because of the bad reviews, but saw it a couple of months ago, and thought it was a very solid little heist flick with nice performance from both Bob and Ed, and Brando was fun. Not a classic, but a nice way to waste a few hours
    Oh and anyone knocking Midnight Run, 'I'm gonna stab you through the heart with a fuckin' pencil...'

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  • May 18, 2007 9:10:54 PM CDT

    Which movies did they become typecast?

    by blindambition238

    I always wondered which movies where the point were pacin and de niro become typecasted as well, deniro and pacino... what do you guy reckon?

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  • May 19, 2007 12:24:55 AM CDT

    Typecast for them began...

    by moto

    ... for Pacino, it was clearly SCENT OF A WOMAN. I love his performance, but since then, he's been the go to heavy that goes from hushed mumbles to FUCKING YELLING LIKE A MANIAC! I personally love it though. He plays it so well that SOMEHOW, for me, it doesn't get old. And SOMEHOW, even though the notes are the same, he manages to create a different type of character each time.

    For De Niro??? Hmmmm. Tough one. I really think HEAT was the role that typecasted him. The quiet guy that was at the same time intense. The stares... ever notice that in his performance? It was either HEAT or CASINO... because they were a variation of his GOODFELLAS persona. Dont' get me wrong, I LOVE Heat, but...

    Jack Nicholson... he's a lot like Pacino. His performances may have the same notes, but somehow he keeps us interested. I'll watch Jack in anything to be honest.

    Brando. Fucking guy was BRILLIANT. He was and is so far removed from anyone we're talking about. He's fucking Zeus. Did you guys/gals catch the new doc BRANDO that was on... I can't remember the channel, maybe Bravo? Just debuted and I think it was at Cannes and/or Tribeca. BEST fucking doc on Brando you'll see with new interviews from Pacino and pretty much anyone that had anything to do with him (Coppola and Nicholson weren't there though... hmmm). But Brando was just... above everyone else. Like a brilliant mad scientist. He was never typecast in my opinion. Even the dozens of shitty movies he was in, in between the classics, he was great.

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  • May 19, 2007 1:55:08 AM CDT

    Adding to Moto's list - Bang the Drum Slowly

    by moa kaka

    De Niro wasn't just playing his same old tough guy/psycho/loner roles. Watch him play the not-very-smart, dying, baseball player. Great performance.

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  • May 19, 2007 4:18:25 AM CDT

    Brando......

    by jjgittes

    Hey I love Brando as much as anybody but he wasn't "so far removed from anybody we were talking about"......Brando was bad alot on film, he wasn't great in everything ("interesting" maybe but he has been awful in roles too). In terms of their raw talent Brando and Pacino are quite similar except of course Brando is the pioneer.

    Also people are misusing the word typecast. Pacino, Nicholson and De Niro may cash in paychecks, but they have the option to do anything they want - they are not "typecast" in the sense that say Pauly Shore can't be cast in anything beyond what our perception of him is.

    Most actors get lazy in one way or another - Brando didn't even try half the time, where's his attempts at Shakespeare after "Julius Caeser"? Pacino in his 60s playing "Angels in America" and "Merchant of Venice" is far more daring and brilliant than anything Brando would even attempt at the same stage of his career, but here's the contradiction : - you count them for their great work only really. Daniel Day-Lewis is a great actor, so was Olivier, Day-Lewis rarely acts in crap, Olivier did it ALOT and a s a result was sometimes awful, that doesn't make Day-Lewis a better actor (in and of itself).

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  • May 19, 2007 11:26:28 AM CDT

    Brokeback Detectives?

    by docoholic

    Al Pacino unzips his pants while DeNiro is bent over in the Taxi Cab. Al says " Say HELLO to my little friend" and DeNiro says" You talking to me? You talking to me?" Kurt Russell was outside watching and he was laughing so I guess it's okay.

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  • May 20, 2007 4:26:57 AM CDT

    Midnight Run

    by benbraddock

    If you haven't seen it, do so, it's really good. There's a throwaway moment in the scene where De Niro is on the phone in a callbox and he threatens to kill the Grodin character, who is standing listening... it still cracks me up every time - the way De Niro looks at him and shakes his head.. fucking funny

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  • May 20, 2007 4:35:13 AM CDT

    Together????

    by chris graves

    Will they be in the same scenes on camera together, as opposed to that one second flash they both shared in Heat at the diner?

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  • May 20, 2007 7:15:27 AM CDT

    I'll probably get banned for this

    by wee willie

    But wowsah156, you're an idiot. Get your head out of your ass, you shit for brains moron. You don't know what you're talking about. Oh, and nice typos. Fuckwad

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  • May 20, 2007 7:19:13 AM CDT

    I really think HEAT was the role that typecasted him.

    by wee willie

    Are you people retarded?

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  • May 20, 2007 8:08:01 AM CDT

    Color me disinterested

    by drunken rage

    Pacino was once a fair actor, DeNiro was once a great actor, now they're both fucking hams. Blame it on bad scripts, bad roles, whatever, but neither has done anything of merit in years.

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  • May 20, 2007 10:02:32 AM CDT

    Benbraddock,

    by mrfan

    You are right. That small scene is one of the best of Midnight Run. Laughed my ass off and did so just when I read your post. Ah, good times.

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  • May 20, 2007 1:35:08 PM CDT

    Midnight Run

    by dirkd13"

    Is probably DeNiro's most accomplished performance outside of his Scorsese collaborations. The scene with his estranged daughter is heartbreaking, and the way DeNiro captures years of hurt and shame when he lays eyes on her, yet also managing to simultaneously not let her see it (it's something I didn't really notice untill I grew up) is nothing short of masterful. This is an action-comedy no less. Fuck pairing with Pacino, get with Grodin again Bob!!

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  • May 20, 2007 9:01:13 PM CDT

    Inside Man

    by damer1

    is underrated. I loved the film.

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