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Eick: Season Four Not Necessarily GALACTICA’s Last!!
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Contrary to recent comments by actor Edward James Olmos, the fourth season of “Battlestar Galactica” may not be its last, according to producer David Eick.
"For those of you who have been paying attention over the years, this is not the first time Eddie has made an announcement about the possibility of the show's end," Eick tells SciFi Wire. "I promise you that when [executiuve producer] Ron [Moore] and I make a decision about Galactica's future, we'll let you know."
Read all of SciFi’s article here.
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DAGNABBIT!!!
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(get it? Olmos sounds like 'almost'? aw forget it)
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Sweet! :)
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the tv movie is just around the corner and they want to get us galactica zombies talking about them again.
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I mean really, who cares? The show is ridiculously stupid.
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It's the best + smartest program on tv. It's ridiculously stupid to say that "the show is ridiculously stupid"
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Producers vs. actors. Personally, I think 4 seasons is plenty of time to tell the BSG story, and I'm an old-school refugee from the original series. Too many seasons, and you're just milking it as one other talkbacker said.
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Sorry, couldn't resist. lolol
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Or it soon will be.
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If they make it to Earth for season 5 I hope they show up in Los Angeles and it's 1980.
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Isn't he working on some Bionic piece of shit remake that will air om NBC next season? I don't care who's involved with that show, it will definitly suck.
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that Olmos was talking out of his ass. Is it just me or does he seem kinda batshit insane? All his interviews and what people say about him seems to indicate as much.
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the *evil* Adama, from an upcoming episode of Galactica called "The Enemy Wheat Thin."
That was also his evil twin saying we should "get a life."
David Eick extends his apologies on the confusion.
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filler up...
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BSG is going to be difficult, if not impossible to sell for syndication. It is a rolling plot, and outside of a few episodes MUST BE WATCHED IN SEQUENCE. That makes it undesirable to most networks.
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That's a rather arrogant statement, I think. He makes it sound like BSG operates outside the confines of producers and executives. (Would be nice, but it just doesn't happen). The fact of the matter is Season Two lost 31% of the audience from "Scattered" to "Lay Down your Burdens". Then lost an additional 40% by "Crossroads". If this show was on ANY channel (cable or network) other than SciFi, it would have been cancelled long ago. Battlestar lives one due to the miracle of low expectations that exists at SciFi. I'm interested to see if Dresden gets renewed, because it had practically the same ratings as BSG. If Dresden gets cancelled, then shouldn't BSG?
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Ugh, it's the 'let's throw Gaeta out the airlock' episode. Oooh, Good Eats is doing Popcorn!
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Now that networks and advertisers are starting to accept the DVR playback more, BSG will be able to include some of those numbers in their overall ratings. That will boost their total ratings. Mind you, the current ratings system is a guessing game... while the Tivo DVR rating system is accurate.
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Close though. I've seen parts of this one before, though. Hopefully $40/day will be new to me.
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Scifi and NBC Universal aren't fronting the money for new BSG episodes out of some bizaar desire that their show be loved and worshiped by millions of Torrent and Tivo using nerds. Television is about selling ads and the only thing that Tivo ratings guarentee is that 99% of those people aren't watching any ads. Whine all you want about the need for a new ratings paradigm, the current system(and the production values we've come to expect) can only be supported by the ad model. When the ad model finally breaks the medium will be fucked for a generation.
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Where'd that phrase go?
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it's not letting me connect
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that Eick just cut his legs out from under him again! He's gonna offer him a hand of peace, then give him a knee to the groin!
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Just when I thought that knew when to go out on a high. If the series is cancelled after unresolved storylines at the end of Season Four, there's going to be a lot of majorly pissed off fans. Just take the opportunity to end it properly and be done with it. I hope they won't start Season Four not knowing if it will be the last or not and then, in the last few weeks, decide to end it. That will lead to a rushed conclusion, rather than a well-thought-out final run. Make the decision early, people.
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your last post was idiotic.
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BSG got a full order instead of a half-season in order to wrap everything up in the 4th season. I don't think anyone really believes that they'll get a 5th season.
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Seriously, if BSG's ratings have been "on the bubble," then the production team needs to count its blessings, instead of leaving a bunch of loose threads if and when BSG doesn't get picked up for a fifth. Please, I don't want BSG to totter off into senility (formerly beloved shows of mine) like SG-1 and the X-Files.
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Followed by the excavation of Atlantis.
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This is what always happens - during a new show's first season everyone is like 'oh it better get a second season or I'm gonna kill myself' then when it DOES get a second season everyone acts as though they didn't really ask for it, they have no patience for a story continuing past one season. Then when the show gets a third season everyone's like 'oh, jumped the shark! jumped the shark! end it NOW end it NOW!!' I would like Galactica to get a 5th, 6th and maybe 7th season. It deserves it. There's HUGE potential in this world.
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Unless after they find Earth they do a season about the aftermath. I'd like to see them mirror the old show where they arrived in the "modern day" and see how they get integrated into 2007 society. I think the writers are going to go with them finding an unpopulated Earth however (either in our distant past or future). Just a hunch.
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Eick is just trying to put a lid on it now. As deceptive as they were about the fate of Starbuck...evening going as far as not telling the rest of the cast. I'm betting Edward wasn't supposed to be giving that little tidbit to the masses.
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Let the rumors commence!!!
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The ratings suck and the show is very expensive. Dresden is obviously much cheaper to make and gets the same ratings. Anyway, I trust that Eick and Moore will treat season 4 as its last. It's been spinning its wheels for all of season 3 really.
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This is one of those shows that needs to be on the bigscreen. No filler episodes just 2 hour epics like putting the last 2 episodes of season 2 and the first 3 episodes of season 3 together and popping one out every 3 to 4 years.
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i love it and i am with performingmonkey, i want as much bsg as i can get. i am sure that they will wrap everything up very well, but i would prefer they wrapped it all up in season 5 or 6 =)
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ROTFLMAO, LOL.
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with what chrth didn't say; the movie version should be called "Olmos Famous".
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... said the actor to the jack-ass producer. Speaking as a huge fan of BSG, that piece of unreasonable and intelligence-insulting crap they called a season-finale should be proof enough as to why this show has flamed out. I want them to finish the story (if they actually know where the story is going), but the show needs to end next season. Ed knows it; Eick probably does too.
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why all of you people are such huge bsg haters, aren't you supposedly "fans" of the show? the first half of season three was incredible with very intense and realistic allegories for our current war in Iraq and the unstoppable insurgency. Someone posted in the other BSG thread something I found very interesting... BSG is some of if not THE best science-fiction that has ever graced our television screens, but you all whine and bitch when they take the show out space and down to a planet to show some seriously gritty war stories. I mean come on, Colonel Tigh orders suicide bombings, the cyclons have mass executions of their political adversaries, Starbuck kills her captor over and over and over again. I would even say that the first half of season 3 was BSG at its BEST. I don't understand what you people keep bitching about. Let's say season4 is the final season for BSG... what are we fans of science-fiction left with? Pure garbage... Dresden Files? Stargate: Atlantis? Give me a fucking break. Both stargate series are utter garbage that appeal to the lowest common denominator.
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I am curious to know what science-fiction programs you BSG haters actually like? Star Trek Voyager? Stargate: SG1 & Atlantis? What actually GOOD science-fiction programs are there besides BSG? What crap will we be left with when BSG is gone?
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coming into a forum just to express how much you dislike the show. Seems like a waste of time. I was almost glad to hear that this would be BSG's final season... Because I'm afraid that if they push for a fifth and don't get it, we'll all get fucked in the ass for an ending. Hope you guys know what you're doing. Oh, and those four aren't cylons. I don't care what Moore says. They're not fucking cylons, just like Starbuck didn't die. Although I do enjoy the leaking of false information. Makes keeping the faith in your beliefs even more critical.
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I haven't watched either in a while, I missed a season a couple years back and haven't had time to catch up. But SG1 was kicking ass right up through S8. It probably lost something when Richard Dean Anderson left the cast, since he's the freakin' man. Atlantis was good because of David Hewlett, I can't vouch for it though because I've only seen maybe the first season. There's still hope for sci-fi. o_O; I think.
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The two Stargate series are great... if you like plastic science-fantasy where everything gets wrapped up real nice at the end of every episode. I honestly detest the last 10 minutes of every Stargate episode where the characters are hanging out and making jokes. Blegh. I'll take some hardcore BSG drama over that drivel any day.
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...because they have at least two more story arcs to tell. First they find Earth and finish up with the mysteries of the 13th Tribe, then they need to finally resolve the Human/Cylon conflict with the integration of the two races on Earth. There's two seasons worth right there, practically writes itself.
And I still say, fuck SciFi for letting all these rumors and shit fly regarding BSG. They've been pulling this shit on us for months now, and I'm sick of it. Eick and Moore seem to have no problem addressing these issues, when is SciFi going to weigh in on it? -
That's right. You heard me... the London Bridge. I own it now. Suckas!!!
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I think that the show has run its course and this season would be a good time for it to come to an end.
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Because I'm not.
I follow BSG faithfully, just like I do SG-1, even though it's obvious that SG-1's past its prime. And if BSG can continue keeping up the quality of its stories *and* maintain ratings, then I'll think that's absolutely super, and I'll keep watching. I am saying, though, that there are tipping points in TV history when it would have been wiser to cancel a show then let it keep going (for example, when "Buffy" got canceled by WB, David Duchovny left "X-Files," and Richard Dean Anderson stopped being a regular on SG-1). In each case I just named, it kept getting harder for me, at least, to feel the love. Maybe it won't be that way for BSG. I don't know. ::shrug:; -
Season Four - Find Earth, visit every city in the World without leaving Vancouver. Have lots of sex.
Season Five - Misplace Earth, spend rest of season finding it again. Have lots of sex.
Season Six - Get thrown 70,000 light years, spend rest of season finding Earth, again. Again, more sex.
Season Seven - It's all been a dream, the Cylons never attacked, and the entire season is nothing but hardcore sex. -
I'm actually happy with this news. I believe they can probably accomplish everything they need to in twenty episodes in Season Four, but I'd really love for them to have the chance at a Season Five. Honestly, the way I think they should do it is to have the Fourth Season end with them finding Earth. No reveal about what state human society is when they get there...they just get there. If a Fifth Season is green-lit, then they can do the big reveal that oh, Earth society is still in the stone age, or 1980s, or 1940s, or whenever. At that point they have to keep going and lead the Cylons on a goose chase to protect Earth, whatever. It's a perfect way to manage it. It gives us closure on the major story of the series: "will they find Earth?" and it gives them the ability to continue beyond that should they have the opportunity. This also solves the issue of whether they can provide an answer about the _state_ of Earth's society that will satisfy the malcontents on this site and elsewhere.
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A coworker of mine was on a little commuter flight to the boondocks (Marquette, Michigan) and looked at the guy next to her at the gate reading a paper, and it was Edward James Olmos. He was going up to some little tiny college to give some speech on hispanic culture. She sat next to him the whole flight and said he was tremendously pleasant, and more than willing to talk about Battlestar Galactica (one of her favorite shows). He said he loved doing it, and was thrilled with it's success.
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just for a laugh. remember this when he exclusively reveals admiral adama is a transvestite with magic powers.
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But I found the show lacking in season 3. The time jump and being stuck on the planet early in the season was a snoozefest. No drama imo. And what shows do I like more than BSG? Rome, Sopranos and Lost. And recent shows like Deadwood and Carnivale. And would place heroes about even with BSG season 3. Those are pretty much the only series I watch. The rest is sports, movies and history and discovery channel.
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Along with BSG, Rome and The Sopranos are the best shows on TV... Heroes and Lost... meh. I like Heroes and everything... but I wouldn't rank it up there with Rome, BSG and The Sopranos.
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This may not be BSG's last season if, for example the ratings get back to an average of 2.3 or so and they sell loads more DVDs - and fast enough before the end of Season 4 so they can write a Season 5 (and adjust the end of Season 4) so it doesn't look tacked on.
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After using various writers, plots/story arcs and the like over a span of three seasons, it should now be clear to TPTB what works and what does not (as it is to the fans). With three full seasons under the belt, every episode of Season 4 should be a home run.
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You could also add a last story arc about resettling the 12 colonies.
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It's got way too many holes in it anyway. We know there was a Caprica with a fully-thriving civilisation on it. It goes beyond 'expriment gone wrong' because of that. If the show had started with them already on Galactica, then maybe. But it would still be a sucky plot.
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I wish they would make up their mind. After that preposterous season finale, I was debating whether or not I'd be back for a season 4. Then I hear it'll be the finale season, so I figure it'll have some kind of focus, so I'm back in. Now it's like well it may not be the last, we'll just throw spaghetti to the wall and see if enough of it sticks to warrant a 5th season. Even if you loved the finale, you simply cannot argue that the show has any clear direction since RDM has made it clear that it does not. This is bad news for the lovers as well. So do I bother with the fourth, desperately hoping the rare Exodus Pt. II? Maybe I'll just wait till it's all over and catch up quickly on DVD. I hate when great shows crash, I never know when to get out.
Why is it that whenever a show gets a cancellation notice and everyone bitches about it on the boards, that the studios never pull a reversal? But in this case, most people agreed it was the right decision and they backtrack. Give the show a fair end already.
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