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Capone Revels In The Cannibal Plague Zombie Orgyness of 28 WEEKS LATER!!
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Hey everyone, Capone in Chicago here.
There is something about the nature of a virus that has always terrified me, the way that its sole purpose is spread to another person, then another and another. That's pretty much the life's mission of a virus. The film 28 DAYS LATER… preyed on that fear, along with the other very real nightmarish fear of being physically ravaged by screaming, bloody-eyed lunatics who have taken over one of the world's cradles of civilization. But sometimes these individuals infected by something called the Rage Virus don't want to just rip out your throat. No, sometimes they wanted to vomit their diseased blood right onto your face and make the virus spread. Director Danny Boyle and writer Alex Garland tapped into a few core human fears and made one of the great modern horror films, one that seemed fueled by adrenaline, rage and terror.
Boyle and Garland have not returned for the sequel, 28 WEEKS LATER…, (Boyle is credited as an executive producer, however, if that means anything) but I have to admit the film still got to me. The movie opens during the initial outbreak. A group of mostly strangers to each other before these events have holed up at a country farm outside London. They seem to have established a protected and safe shelter, until a young boy arrives begging to be let in. It isn't until after he is brought into the house that he informs the group that he is being chased by the infected, and soon enough, the crazies are busting through the boarded up doors and windows to tear shit up and create more creatures like them. Robert Carlyle (TRAINSPOTTING) stars as Don, husband to Alice (Catherine McCormack). The pair get separated briefly, but rather than run across a room to save his wife, Don runs out of the farmhouse, leaving his lovely wife to a presumably disgusting fate.
Cut to roughly 7 months later, and the infected have essentially starved to death, and all signs of the Rage Virus have disappeared from the UK. Yay! The U.S. military has moved in to assist with the re-population of London. Well, it's not really London, but one small section of London that has been deemed safe. Gee, you'd think people would want to wait until a little more of the country was made 100 percent safe, but I guess people's desire to return to normal outweighs such concerns. It's certainly not out of the realm of believability. Among those returning are Don's children (Emily Beecham as Karen and Mackintosh Muggleton as Andy), who were out of the country on a school trip of some sort during the outbreak. When the kids ask what happened to their mother, Don has a slightly modified version of the story to tell them, but one he believes will ease the kids' pain of losing their mother.
It doesn't take long for the two children (the only two in the country, it would seem) to sneak out of the safe zone to go visit their old home and gather some personal belongings. Once in their old home, they discover their mother, clearly rattled, but very much alive. A military doctor (Rose Byrne) confirms a disturbing fact about Alice: she has the Rage Virus, but something in her blood is keeping it from taking hold. She's a carrier.
We think the worst thing that's going to happen as a result of Alice being alive is that Don's kids will question their father's truth-telling abilities. Alas, when the couple are reunited (after Don sneaks into the hospital) and kiss, well, let's just say Don goes a little loopy.
28 WEEKS LATER… is a fairly satisfying scare film. Once the second outbreak begins, things go pretty much as expected. The presence of the military makes containment a little more organized but not particularly effective. They use snipers, flame throwers, chemical weapons and firebombing to deal with the situation, but a few of the infected (including Don) still manage to avoid getting wiped out entirely. I liked the inclusion of Jeremy Renner as a sniper named Doyle, who decides to disregard orders and wipe out anything that moves on the ground in order to help the two children survive (since their blood could possibly be useful in eradicating the virus. Director Juan Carlos Fresnadillo (INTACTO) does a respectable job creating a climate of utter chaos and confusion, peppered by moments of real humanity. His characters aren't quite as hardened as the ones in the first film, which is both good and bad, we find out. And I'll admit, I got a bit of a charge seeing Carlyle go nuts and spew his diseased mucus out at people.
I judge these types of films by a simple formula. Did it scare me? Yes. Did it tap into some buried fear in my psyche? Double yes. On a certain plain of reality, did the film seem credible? Mostly. A strong cast and harrowing story makes 28 WEEKS LATER… nearly as good as the original, and that's a recommendation, in case you can't tell. And it has one of the coolest postscripts I've seen in a while. Damn that Chunnel!
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I hope this doesn't suck.
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Please let it be as good as the 1st!
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But at least I read the review first.
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http://www.eatmybrains.com/shownews.php?id=857
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OK, so links don't work.
go to eatmybarins dot come and click on the 28 weeks later link on the right hand side.
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yes that's eatmybrains dot com
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Or see another movie. or don't see any movie. But, please GOD, don't see that piece of shit Spider-man 3. Looking for a disastrous second weekend for the overhyped cry/dance fest fuck off of a film.
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I was getting depressed, what with the crappy Day of the Dead remake, Steven King's unscary vegetable eating psychic zombies from the ultra-disappointing CELL and the "kick in the balls" casting of Will Smith as Richard Neville in I Am Legend.(F**k U Warner Bros!!) I have high hopes for Romero's Dairy of the Dead as well.
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That is a pre-req for a zombie movie. Then its not a zombie movie.
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I loved the first one and being a HUGE Zombie fan its good to know this one doesnt suck.I have had no expectations for this one so this is a pleasant surprise.
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i'm going to see this in an hour, and i had ZERO clue that Carlyle becomes infected. ah well, i blame myself for reading.
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and is less of an embarassment to the Royal Family than before.
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Oh dear
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Just Kidding... HAHAHAHAHA
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I look forward to Romero's tale of zombie cattle and the infected milk that spews from their diseased udders! Nah - just joking! Don't know whether I'm looking forward to this film or not - going to see it but I had immensely high hopes for 28 Days Later and ended up with HYUUUUGE problems with that movie. Mostly in the writing and partially in the extreme tonal shift in the last twenty minutes or so. I look forward to the comic book crossover Dog Soldiers Versus 28 Days Later
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It is harsh and harrowing. It is one of the best movies I have seen in ages. It has a strong political undertone though, with the US stating an area is safe and it not being. The army then becomes as deadly to the survivors as the Rage victims themselves. I cannot recommend this enough.
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everyone has said that there's a course altering event half way through the film, but everyone else has the decency to either not say what it is or give a spoiler alert. you just fucking blurt it out with regards to carlyle. thanks for diminishing my enjoyment of film i was really looking forward to.
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There is a spoiler alert - it's one of AICN's patented not really that noticeable a spoiler alert but it has the red box with spoiler on it
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yeah, i see that now. did that just go up, or did i actually miss the big red "spoiler heavy" alert?
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I've done it myself - Superman Returns was wasted for me when I read the review and it said 'Superman comes back after five years' - I was really pissed off at that!
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Dude, I know it's a review so I should expect a little bit of spoilerage in it. But fuckin' A. You just blurted out at least two perhaps as many as 3 or 4 pretty key plot points. Thanks a lot ass-clown.
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Okay... I'm sorry, that might have been a bit much. But damn, that was all a little much, there's really no reason for me to watch the movie after reading a review like that.
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I just got done reading World War Z by Max Brooks and this thing could be penned into a BRILLIANT and absolutely HORRIFYING screenplay. Does anyone know if there has been ANY discussion of turning this book into a movie?
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I think Brad Pitts Plan B pictures has the option on it. I agree, it would like all sorts of ass!
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The film is OKAY but not great. It rehashes lots of films and one of the infected keeps showing up for NO REASON AT ALL, which is super irritating. He doesn't behave like we are shown infected behave. It IS violent and brutal, but only half baked.
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Best pop-culture zombie work out there, period. Needs to be a film. And seriously, AICN loves this "28 Weeks Later" film, it IS NOT A GREAT FILM so be prepared when you go. Lower your expectations.
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I saw 28 Days Later on FX a couple nights ago and I really enjoyed it. It's got me pumped for this.
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and let me just say, 28 Weeks Later is like camping...IN TENTS! ha...i slay me. anyway, yeah...solid action/horror/thriller, lots and lots of blood, and for the second time this year (after Grindhouse) i've seen a unique killing method that i had not seen before. and damn i said DAMN, i could not believe how fucking expendable everyone was...oh, and MrCere is right, it was a bit irritating how one infected in particular keeps popping up at various points of the film.
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all the action was shot WAY too close. You couldn't even tell what was going on half the time. That parking garage scene was garbage the way it was shot.
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The brains chant is in no way a prerequisite. That was introduced in Return of the Living Dead, and so far as I know has not appeared in any other Z flick save for parodies.
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What I like best about World War Z is actually quite similar to why I like 28 days later (and hopefully this is not lost in the 28 weeks later), and that's the fact that this whole zombie thing is completely possible. Sure, it seems ridiculous to think that there is a virus that reanimates people (WWZ) and sure it's ridiculous that London could be wiped out (28DL), but is it really? Think about the "minor" viruses from Avian Flu and Mad Cow Disease and then think of extremes like Bubonic Plague. Why couldn't a plague hit that could do this to people, too? The book is written with such conviction and truthfulness, such good characters and frighteningly possible accounts of the zombie outbreak. Think of the scene that could be with the battle at Younkers. Brilliant. Just like 28 Days Later, the most haunting thing is the realism of somethign completely ludicrous. I can only hope the same for 28 Weeks Later.
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The kid. He carried the infection to France. Once the chopper had cleared the white cliffs of Dover, I was half expecting his sister to have a change of heart and boot him out of the side of the chopper.
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first, the mother's blood was going lead to the cure, but it lead to the outbreak. then, the kid is carried to safety for the same reason, and lo and behold, another, presumably worse outbreak because it can't be contained as well as it had on an island. so basically, the potential "cure" ended up just being the cause of the plague. nice.
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***!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!!***
The Chunnel has nothing to do with the postscript...see King Knut's explanation two posts above. The mainland is infected because of the kid/carrier. Hence the downed helicopter with the picture of -
If not, then I'm out.
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Fuck me this movie sucked. I knew it would never compare to the original, but it's not even entertaining in it's own right. I actually spent half the film thinking about which villains I'd have if I directed a Hulk film.
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I agree with some of the handheld stuff being shot too close. But I disagree with the shooting of the parking garage scene.
I think that it was shot that way specifically so that it would look exactly the way it should were you actually locked in a claustrophobic garage with no lighting while being attacked by indistinguishable infected that until they're up-close look exactly like the person next to you. Seeing the attack only by the minimal beams of light from emergency lighting is about all you would really be able to make out. In between all the screaming and people pushing/freaking out it would be total chaos. Not an orchestrated well lit thing of beauty with clear camera angles and lingering shots. We weren't supposed to be able to 'see' what was happening. That was the beauty of it. -
I totally see your point...and that makes sense. I mean it was an obvious creative choice – and a ballsy one at that. I guess I was just burnt out on the "chaos camera" shenanigans that came before that scene. But I really enjoyed the movie over all. Cool take on zombie mythology, and a pretty good sequel.
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Wanna see that movie
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That's a huge surprise to me.
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Damn that was satasfying. Much moreso that Spidey 3, which had more than four times the budget. If you like the original, you'll like this. There are a few times that you'll have to suspend your logic.
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Na=mely, how the HELL are two kids going to get outside a HEAVILY quaranteened zone, and why didn't the "so-dangerous we have to kill her" mom have not ONE single gaurd?
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A few months ago on here, about Brad Pitt possibly starring... or have I completely lost it? Anyone? I'm pretty sure it's why I went out and bought the book...
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... The perfect villains for the Incredible Hulk flick would be: The Abomination and The Leader! The classic "brains and brawn" team-up. I'm going to see 28WL tonite, despite knowing the friggin' ending now (thank you Capone, you schmuck!). Hope I enjoy it more'n you did Tremor. And Capone... from now on, when you go to a movie, may you always and forevermore sit behind the 7-foot guy with an old school afro and in front of the couple with the screaming baby!
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Had the fact that Carlyle became infected in like the second paragraph, and I thought "Wow, that seems like a big-ass spoiler, but since this fucking reviewer put it in the second paragraph in his review that's running in a big-ass newspaper from the largest city in the country, it must take place in the first ten-minutes."
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With my mom she loves horror movies and is pumped for this. Tonight on the other hand I was going to watch Warriors vs. Jazz but then I'll head over and see Spider-man 3 again just because I was ordered not to in this TB. The rest of this summer looks kind of weak: Shrek 3(Yawn), Pirates 3(I'm just not excited and I don't know why), Silver surfer might be a surprise, LH or DH I'm thinking that will dissapoint along with Transformers. So that leaves me with Bourne Ultimatum which will be cool and a handful or R rated comedies that could come out any time of the year. Kind of sad...
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Was anyone else bothered by Carlyle’s character just showing up places, like he was purposefully stalking his kids? I mean, that's just silly, because zombies (or "the infected" as they are here) have no conscious thought process or recognition of their lives. They are mindless eating machines. Poorly scripted. But the helicopter scene kicked all sorts of ass, and was TEN TIMES better than the helicopter scene in Planet Terror.
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They aren't Zombies. Danny Boyle has said numerous occasions (and quite angrily I might add), they are not, nor ever will be: zombies. So you can't apply any kind of pre-concieved rules to how the infected act.
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You jack-ass dorks.
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None of the "non-zombie" infected have enough thought process to follow his kid around. The point is NOT "are they zombies?" the point is the movie made NO logical sense when a brainless non-zombie not only moves around when he should be motivated by eating but is smart enough to anticipate every move his kids make.................And Carlyle, a few of us referenced the infected in question WITHOUT SPELLING IT OUT above. Try reading the talkback.
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Dont know about Pitt Starring but I guess it's possible his production company picked up the rights
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Saw this movie tonight and thought it was absolutely excellent, can't recommend it enough, very well acted and scripted, enjoyed the american soldier banter and thought some of deaths were fantastic. My only real gripe was some of that shakey-cam which certain filmmakers love to use! All in all though i thought it was a great movie and better than the first one which was excellent until the ending; this one was great throughout!
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Robin Hood vs Zombies. You all know you want it.
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Imogen Poots plays the daughter - Tammy. She is also too hot - if I were a zombie, she'd be my first target.
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On one hand, this was one of the most horrifying movies I've ever seen and was extremely effective.
But...SPOILER WARNING.....
The fact that Carlyle seemed to be "thinking" and "plotting" is PREPOSTEROUS and a complete betrayal of what the previous film (and most of this one) defines this virus to be: pure, unadulterated, unthinking, unfeeling RAGE. The Carlyle "zombie" was consumed with the virus and yet was able to survive the military bombings AND follow his kids. RIDICULOUS, and a sure sign of ANOTHER infection: sequelitis!!
There were a lot of great things about the film, though. The American sniper was my favorite character. A tragic hero. And the opening segment was beyond horrifying, as well as so many other scenes. It's still a good movie. BUT, as it becomes a "franchise," and becomes more polished, it's obvious that the infectious microbes of studio success are starting to spoil what was a great and original take on this genre of film. -
the problem with this movie is the tons of guns that appears on trailers... i just hope some melee action.
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Saw 28 Weeks Later today in the theatre this afternoon. Pretty intence. Really good surprises and gore. The family on family killing was surely fucked up, but made it work so much better. Like the previous film abandoned London was stunning in being both beautiful and terrifying. The aerial shots of this were awesome. Even though they used the same song multiple times throughout the film, I didn't mind since I really dug the song and how it incorporated into the action on screen. Looking forward to 28 Months Later.
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People who are offended by the coincidences in POS Spiderman3 will 'go loopy' after seeing (MAJOR SPOILERS):
1. Don's kids just coincidentally are out of the country during the first outbreak
2. They just happen to be the first kids let back into the safe zone
3. They just happen to be the only ones dumb enough to sneak out into the no-go zone
4. The mom of these very same kids just happens to survive a full press court rage attack (as if)
5. She just happens to make it back safely (as if) to the family home in time to meet up with her kids
6. These very same Mom and kids are the ONLY ONES in Britain IMMUNE TO THE RAGE VIRUS (yah, sure)
7. Loopy Dad just happens to be in the right place at the right time (and all by himself is able to break into a supposedly secure safe house) and reinfects the whole population (as if)
8. Dad just happens to survive against the best efforts of dozens of snipers, death gas, and a city-wide napalm storm (as if) and then totally by chance finds his kids a subterranean tunnel (as if)
9. The French are even dumber than the British (okay, I'll give them that one)
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Just love the way they did a little french bashing at the end...Should play very well in the red states.
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I didn't find most of the movie any more scary than the most of the crap being thrown about in the horror gerene today. I should tell you that for me zombies, especally these hyper infected whatevers, were always too human for my tastes, which is usually the opposite with most people i gather. Im more of a creature of the night guy i guess. Anyways most of the scaes were the standard look this direction while something in the other direction pops up, or simply, like someone mentioned, too erratically shot to make any sense or convey any scares. For the most part i would rank this film and its predecesor as average "zombie" movies but fairly good scifi dystopia/apocolyptic flicks. Dang this whole summmer is tuning into disapointment. Oh yea i also found the actress plaing the daughter to be distractingly beautiful (im about her age just in case you were wondering, and yes, this is merely a backhanded compliment).
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I thought the opening scene in the farmhouse was pretty intense....kinda like the opening from the Dawn of the Dead remake it brought you right into the action in no time at all.The rest of the movie was pretty good in certain parts.One of the bigger problems was the whole movie relied on some pretty shaky coincidences.The fil makers took the Day of the Dead(1985) route with this by making one zombie(infected to be more correct)smarter then the other ones.I thought it was a little bit cheesy when the city got firebombed,the Robert Carlyle infected conveniently hid in an alley against the wall without so much as an asshair getting singed.Even cheesier was right before that his son sees him when everyone has their back turned and the father zombie shows restraint...I thought they were supposed to have blind uncontrollable rage.One of the nice touches was the use of the musical theme from the ending of the first movie throughout this one..especially through moments of tension.Overall I found it pretty entertaining and had some of the best sequences from either of the movies...but as a whole complete film it fell a few notes short.
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Totally uncompromising. Minimal dialogue. Dense mood. Great use of music. Unsentimental. Better than the first in a lot of ways. On par with Aliens and Road Warrior for sequels that expand and heighten the feel of the original.
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Renner's amazing WINK to the kids in the trailer totally sold me on this film, and it's not even in the movie!!! I was looking forward to it the WHOLE time! Very disappointed...movie's still good tho.
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*Spoilers* duh,
Loved the movie, the only thing I wanted more out of it was more infected, I mean .. okay there was alot, but I wanted more. I got it in the end though.. good for me. I'm all for the zombies going batshit on everyone they see. The scene in the contaiment area when the infection spreads again is a-fucking-mazing. Good on you zombies! Can't wait for the next chapter.
Zombies, yes I call them that. They arent undead, but you dont have to be undead to be a zombie in some definitions. I didn't mind that pappa zombie eluded alot of the military and chemical weapons to follow what was left of his family. It didnt make sense, but then again it didnt have to. He just did. Shit, do some of you assholes need a god damn history report on how he managed to get away from everyone? fuck go make your own movie with his zombie adventures in following his family. I dont want to see his every little move. what matters is he found them in the end. That wasnt an issue for me. He was kinda like Bub from Day of the dead.. only psychotic, ruthless and brutal. Which makes him not like Bub at all, but whatever, fuck you. I was reminded in any case.
Loved the movie, I saw a trailer for Resident Evil 3 before this one.. :/
but thats expected.
I am so god damn happy with this movie, and all its brutality and while I wait for the next one I hope whoever works on World War Z doesnt fuck it up. It HAS TO be the Starwars/lordoftherings/whateverthefuck
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Also, I'm just gonna say.. on all the "how dids" how did this how did that, whatever. How did terrorists happen to fly planes into the trade centers (god rest the souls) you know how it happend? because people werent thinking about it. Thats how bad shit happens. You dont expect anyone to be leaving the safety of a quarentined zone so it doesnt cross your mind to pay THAT much attention, you saw how bored the guards were.
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it breaks the rules it established regarding the zombies being enraged and irrational. There is just no reason for this zombie dad to pursue the kids. I just see the director using the dad for emotional crap. A random zombie killing scarlet, and a random zombie biting the kid would have been much better. I just dont think the dad should have been any more successful at pursuing the survivors than any other zombie.
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On what happend to Paris and New York. Remember in the first one they had some radio snippet on them saying there was an outbreak in those places?
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The opening and helicopter scenes were the highlights for me! John Murphy has created something really special with these movies.
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Just got back and i'm still dizzy, I think there was a total of 5 minutes where the camera stood still. It's hard to enjoy a zombie attack when all you see are blurs. LAME!!!
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They doomed us all with their carrier bullshit. First the mom brings it into the safe zone, then the dad infects the safe zone, and then the boy brings it to France. Bastards. What was with the gunship not making a dent in the car? And why did Andy not say anything when he saw his dad on the street (after the Sniper attack), then not say anything after falling down the stairs, and then walked away, and then ran down the tunnel? Why is the event of a code red to have everyone meet in a single location, only to be secured with the weakest of push doors and the smallest of padlocks? What the HELL was up with turning all the lights off down there? Why are zombies always marching out into random nowhere grass fields in perfectly lined formations? This year is the year of odd coincidences. It is one thing to have a few pop-up, but Spider-Man 3 and now 28 Weeks Later simply went overboard, where you simply must question every scene. Thank God the music, sound effects, and action were up to snuff. This might have the best action in any horror film outside of Aliens.
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this isn't a zombie flick. nowhere did i see a fucking zombie. the only thing i did see were a bunch of crazed infected people trying to kill and ravage. if the infected isn't dead and trying to eat you than it's not a zombie. i didn't like the first one, too slow and boring but i saw this one, and well it's ok for an outbreak type flick.
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it wasn't what i was hoping for, but it wasn't bad. the shaky handheld camera movement was definitely overused. it still heightened the tension, but not as well as it did in the first moive. at the very least, it was a good enough lead-in to when danny boyle comes back and makes 28 months later. and damn, if robert carlyle wasn't the scariest motherfucker in england...
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just think of the possibilities! I'm kidding. Kinda sorta. Hey hellnback, how about a "real zombie" TV series: www.lifelesstheseries.com
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***SPOILER*** I might be cutting the film a bit too much slack, but I read into it that he was able to 'think', purely because of how he contracted the disease. Not via blood exchange or direct attack, but purely from the exchange of saliva. I may be wrong, but a combination of that, plus the genetic link to his kids may have been the reason. Who cares, either way, I thought the film was a cracker, big thumbs up from me.
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Just got back from this this movie and wow, I was so pissed off. So you're gonna tell me that the first person to be found with the infection in like 5 months is going to be left unguarded in a room that apparently anyone can gain access to? Come on man, that was the first piece of shit scene that was followed by more scenes that deserved to be down a toilet. Move everyone to quarantine! In a room that has multiple entrances that can be accessed from anywhere with little effort, GOOD THINKING! I am a huge fan of the zombie genre or zombieish genre in this case. I hate when shit gets perpetuated by stupid/ridiculous situations. CODE RED! make sure no one is monitoring the tunnel to France. Maybe I would have enjoyed it more if I could have seen what was actually happening for more than 5 minutes at a time. Oh well, looks like all I have to look forward to is the Day of the Dead remake! wuaah wuaaaaah.
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It reminded me of the "Ahhhhh! Josh! Josssssssssh! Where are you Josh?" Blair Witch scenes, but in a GOOD way. I dunno, just the way that the nightvision scope on the rifle didn't seem too cinematic, but rather, if it was actually filmed through the actual scope. Watching two people fall down an escalator littered with rage-infected skeletons in pitch fucking black conditions was really spooky, and the camera catching shadows darting back-and-forth in the darkness was truly moody. EXCELLENT cinematography during that scene, I mean EXCELLENT.
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Just got back from 28 WEEKS and have some thoughts... ***BEWARE SPOILERS AHEAD*** Didn't like it as much as the first, but it was infinitely better than Spider-Man 3. You have to make some HUGE leaps of faith in suspending disbelief and logic, but if you can do that you should be able to enjoy what the film manages to get right - namely the post-apocalyptic feel of a deserted London which they nailed. I've always been a sucker for films that capture that sense of desolation and isolation, and this film manages it quite nicely. The problems I had with it are that it somewhat violates its own canon in my opinion. They establish that an American led NATO force is in charge of repatriating people to London. They obviously understand what a serious threat the virus is, yet their security protocols are so lax it makes you wonder if CTU is in charge. But I suppose if another outbreak did not occur we wouldn't have much basis for the movie, so like I said before, you have to be willing to suspend your disbelief rather generously. In that vein, here are the problems I thought of while watching it that took me out of the movie briefly -and admittedly some of them are minor gripes but hey, that's what a talkback is all about... 1.) The chief military doctor looks like she is fresh out of med school. When trying to save one of the greatest cities in the world with the looming threat of a still relatively unknown virus out there, I'd expect some more experienced staff on scene. Hee hee! Minor gripe. 2.) Why weren't the bridges destroyed to maintain better security of the Green Zone since people could not easily cross the river? 3.) Robert Carlyle conveniently showing up everywhere. That cat sure could fucking hustle! 4.) If it's a NATO operation, why do we only see American personnel? Although it was nice to see us fucking up someplace other than Iraq for a change. 5.) When they execute the Code Red it sure doesn't seem like the soldiers knew what the fuck they were supposed to do. You'd think they would be HIGHLY trained and prepared for that scenario. The containment protocols seemed week. Considering the medical compound was like a vault, what was with the flimsy doors and cheap lock holding everyone in? I smell a plot device. 6.) If I was in charge, people caught leaving the Green Zone would be shot on sight for disobeying the quarantine as a lesson to anyone else with thoughts of exploring. 7.) If the military was in charge, why did Carlyle have a fucking card that gave him total access to everything? I know he was supposed to be a maintenance guy or whatever, but c'mon! 8.) Can cotton shirts pulled up over your face actually be effective measures against chemical weapons? 9.) If Infected can break through walls, doors, etc, why can't they bust some car windows? 10.) Why do chicks sneaking around in horror movies always have to shriek like stupid cunts to alert the bad guys to their presence? 11). The rest of Europe would surely be on high alert. Why didn't France shoot down the helicopter? I sure as hell would if an unauthorized flight from England came zipping across the Channel unexpectedly. And if it did land, all passengers would be quarantined immediately assuming I didn't shoot them first and ask questions later. 12.) Was it wrong of me to think the young daughter was hot?!? Anyway, there were more quibbles but like I said before, I suppose you have to allow some plot devices to slip in or there wouldn't be much of a movie. At least not a movie with Infected running around wreaking havoc. Not a bad film if you are able to set aside logic and reason to enjoy the ride. Jesus, I need to get a life...
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no the rage loons arent zombies, its hollywood putting the movies into a box. it was great eye candy, and the theme was the complete opposite to the original. itd be perfect if they left the series to this , but im sure the powers that be are already setting the motions down for another sequel
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Then again, I think zombie movies usually straddle the line between horror / sci-fi apocalypse. Romero's Night is the classic zombie as horror film; Romero's Dawn is the classic zombie as sci fi apocalypse film. Both 28 films did the sci fi apocalypse part really well. But, if you're disappointed as a horror fan, remember that good sci fi apocalypse films are pretty fucking awesome in their own right.
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...may all who use it from here on out be throttled in the taint by bloodsuckers in the fifth level of Hades, then forced to wear Rosie O'Donnell's bowel movements as spectacles. Seriously, eff you effers who use "meh." What the hell is "meh"?
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I just saw this movie. I went into the sequel with low expectations, and I was pleasantly surprised.
It was much better than I thought it would be.
1)The infected could have come through the Chunnel. The epilogue was 28 days later... And it could obviously have come from the kid. Personally, I think it was both.
2) RC was probably partially immune. He was spattered with the infected blood repeatedly in fighting and did not turn. But one exposure from saliva does him in. Unless the virus mutated enough in Mom to leave him some kinda rudimentary faculties. Even though she was just giving him payback.
3) Even though there are coincidences- the film pulls no punches in offing everyone.
4) The bit of irony I liked was if the sniper had just offed the kid, the end may not have happened.
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5) My old college girlfriend and I were using 'Meh' as a saying was back in 1987.
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The most disturbing part of the movie after the beginning was, when the orders were given to shoot friendlies also... Creepy. But also sound judgment- which is why it's sooo. >
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I still think that this was one of the better horror movies out this year so far. You did have to suspend disbelief some, but is it any different than let's say Hill Have Eyes 2 or that crap the Invisible or Vacancy or the Reaping. I think that it is way better then all of those I just mentioned. I would LOVE to see a World War Z movie, if Zak did it. I don't know who else would be able to pull it off. Any ideas? But as of now 28 Weeks is on my tops of 07 so far for horror.
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radio1_mike: 2) RC was probably partially immune
He was was a full blown carrier, just like his mom. The bite from his dad did nothing but create an immune response. Brother ans sister then infected French soldier mimes just like there mom did. Nothing at all to do with the Chunnel.
landocolt45: but is it any different than let's say Hill Have Eyes 2 or that crap the Invisible or Vacancy or the Reaping
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I loved it. This movie has the right drama and acting to give it the stakes it needs to make it a story worth telling. It may have not been as strong as the original, but it definitely was scarier.
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You guys have to realize that he got the virus from a woman who had special genetics to make herself immune to the effects. It's quite possible that her genetics MUTATED THE VIRUS INTO A NEW STRAIN. Maybe he just infects everyone else with the normal strain, but since he's the first to get it from a genetically special person, especially his wife, he got to retain the bare minimum intelligence.
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SPOILERS (as if it still matters)
So the world-view behind this movie is: the cruelest, most heartless seeming option always turns out to be the right one. Examples:
1. If the people holed up in that house in the beginning had not opened the door to let the kid in, they wouldn't have gotten attacked by the infected.
2. If the dad HAD gone back for the mom at the beginning, he would himself have gotten infected (and she turned out not to need his help anyway).
3. If, as the military guy suggested, they had just killed the mom instead of keeping her alive in hope of finding a cure, she wouldn't have been able to cause the second outbreak.
4. If the doctor and the soldier who looks like Nathan Filian had done their jobs and slaughtered everybody instead of taking pity on the children and trying to get them to safety (specifically, if the soldier had shot the boy when he had him in his sights) the virus would not have moved beyond England. (The same goes for the guy who played Michael on Lost).
5. And in general, what looked like their one hope against the virus (certain people's immunity to being affected by its symptoms) ended up being what doomed everyone.
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SPOILERS (as if it still matters)
So the world-view behind this movie is: the cruelest, most heartless seeming option always turns out to be the right one. Examples:
1. If the people holed up in that house in the beginning had not opened the door to let the kid in, they wouldn't have gotten attacked by the infected.
2. If the dad HAD gone back for the mom at the beginning, he would himself have gotten infected (and she turned out not to need his help anyway).
3. If, as the military guy suggested, they had just killed the mom instead of keeping her alive in hope of finding a cure, she wouldn't have been able to cause the second outbreak.
4. If the doctor and the soldier who looks like Nathan Filian had done their jobs and slaughtered everybody instead of taking pity on the children and trying to get them to safety (specifically, if the soldier had shot the boy when he had him in his sights) the virus would not have moved beyond England. (The same goes for the guy who played Michael on Lost).
5. And in general, what looked like their one hope against the virus (certain people's immunity to being affected by its symptoms) ended up being what doomed everyone.
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I swear, I didn't do anything wrong!
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I liked it. It wasn't scary after the first twenty minutes. I even knew about RC because of this stupid site (it was my fault, I ignored a spoiler warning) so that didn't bug me.
Problems:
RC gouges his wife's eyes out. I hated that. Not because infected wouldn't necessarily do that but because when Jim did that in the first movie it was one of those great "holy shite" moments in my young film enjoying life and I thought really helped draw the philosophical lines that movie so successfully painted.
That's about it. My only problem.
The rest of the problems people have... c'mon, go make your own movie. That's nothing. Is it annoying that RC keeps popping up? I guess. But it didn't bug me. I wanted to watch him get blown away anyways.
OH, no, a second problem... if they aren't ZOMBIES then why were so many of them that got helicoptered still crawling around and alive? That bugged me a bit... but I digress.
The good:
That subway sequence was bad-a! Someone mentioned the night vision. Amen. Just awesome. Loved it.
Also loved the way all the USA haters who wanted to read so much into the flick are so obviously full of shite up to their eyes after the movie that it's not even funny. If things had happened the military's way after the outbreak (their blunders in letting it get to that point not withstanding) the world wouldn't be overrun by the infected, now would it? The ugly choice was the right one. My brother and I kept whispering (very softly, sue me) "they shouldn't do that. They should just kill him. Just kill him. C'mon, just kill her. Kill them both. You have to kill everyone."
Heck... maybe I'm infected. Or maybe I'm Jim.
It was a good movie and reminds me how amazing 28 Days Later really is. One of my all-time favorite movies of any genre.
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being hot... oh man... very distracting in a very good way. I looked her up on IMDB and there's no bio information. Which means I'm probably just a giant perv and she'll turn out to be fourteen.
But until I hear otherwise she's 19 in my mind. Wowowowowowoowowowoow. More of her on the big screen or the small screen or the computer screen or with me over dinner or... oh nevermind. -
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where was the wink?! That was the best part! Just pushing, then flame on and such...no wink.
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Since the virus is called rage and seeing the wife's eyes caused him to freak out, why is it such bullshit that him seeing those same eyes wouldn't cause him to go ape shit? It's not really that crazy. Also, the night-vision scope in the tunnels, blatently ripped off from the descent. And the helicopter chopping apart the zombies was much better in Grindhouse...To me it didn't fit this movie well at all. Overall I did like the movie.
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Makintosh Muggleton...That kid's parents are simply mean to give him that name.
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....Cillian Murphy had agreed to do a cameo as one of the infected??? That was reported in the last EW magazine, but he declined. What would you guys have thought of that? In one sense, I think it would have been awesome, but in another, it probably would've spoiled any future re-watching of the first film, and it's nice to have at least a sliver of hope left.
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I thought better than the first... lots of fun.
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Some have complained the film only had American troops instead of NATO troops. For the sake of the film adding Germans, Dutch, French, etc. would've added to the budget and complicated the drama. If this happened in the real UK I doubt they would trust anybody else to reoccupy the country- the special relationship. The Brits wouldn't put the survival of their nation to the French, Germans, Italians, etc. or God forbid Putin's Legions. Commonwealth Nations Canada, Australia and New Zealand would be fitting but they do not have the resources of the United States Military. The US Navy would have a carrier battlegroup stationed off the coast and destroyers patrolling the channel. The military is actually portrayed somewhat positively in contrast to Days' amoral Major West and his thugs.
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...if there was less summarizing.
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Word.
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First of all "The infected could have come through the Chunnel"...nope. All they would have to do is turn off the power and air systems. Pretty sure there wouldn't be enough air to support human life, infected or otherwise, down there. As for the kid, don't forget that saliva can pass the infection. It could have been as simple a deal as him sharing a water bottle with someone else, him backwashing a little, and the virus passing onto the unfortunate drinker. The kids were important, as research into them could have possibly yielded some knowledge on the virus. Although now that mainland Europe is infected, everyone is pretty much fucked except the Americas, Australia, and Japan. Although famine would probably kill Japan without outside assistance, and Australia might not fare as well with the droughts. It's also possible that Russia, fearing hundreds of millions on infected, could launch a nuclear strike against Western Europe, triggering nuclear winter.
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Carlyle's character has been given a janitor's pass that allows him not only to do his janitor thing, but to bypass NATO/US security protocols so he can enter a quarantined medical lab, and all without being spotted or having to go through a checkpoint of any kind? Friends, the movie is fatally flawed. I wouldn't care if it played like an aw-shucks horror comedy like RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD, but this wants to be serious, like 28 DAYS LATER, but is plotted by retards. It's a shame that so much effort has gone into (and it looks great and there's some good performances and chilling action, as well as a few none-too-subtle, though still pertinent, nods to current affairs) a fucking stupid piece of writing.
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This was life imitating art, or vice versa. the same way there was this partially american presence, so was there a partially hollywood presence in this film. 28 days later was a work of art as many danny boyle films are. 28 weeks later was a hollywood movie that was trying to be taken over by an artistic film. In that way it was at least different and still entertaining. it deserves a third installment because of the possibilities it has to be both big and epic or small and intimate. still scarier than most "horror" movies.
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Give this man a new agent.
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Who, along with their chickenshit dad, caused the outbreak in the first place? Really? Although to be fair, this movie had more problems than just heroes who were kinda hard to root for. The whole "shoot everything" was chilling when the army guy first uttered it, but it got a bit ridiculous when they were still shooting at people who were trying to pop a clutch. What, you think zombies have advanced to the point where they're stealing cars? Also, one sniper shooting another sniper. Doyle couldn't just yell up that they weren't infected? As far as I could tell, zombies are somewhat limited in the verbal area. Yes, it was cool and dramatic, but ultimately it proved nonsensical, much like the movie itself. Oh, and don't even get me started on stalker zombie. I actually laughed out loud when he showed up at the end. Is it possible to file a restraining order against a zombie? Overall, I thought there were a couple really cool scenes in search of a much better movie.
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Sloppy, sloppy writing. The military locks a bunch of people in a safe house, but when a zombie somehow breaks into that safehouse..all the people go rushing towards the door and the lock just conveniently breaks? Wow. That was a safe, safe house.The entire city is in lockdown, but 2 children are able to sneak out of a heavily militarized area by walking on a pipe? Its like every single action taken by every single character in this movie was performed just so the plot could move forward. I can suspend my disbelief for "zombies" (even thoug for some reason, one the "zombies" in this one didnt act like the rest" , and men with spider powers, but I cannot suspend my disbelief for horrible, horrible writing of normal human characters.
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Really? For the most part, I couldn't even tell what the fuck was going on. Can we please ban the handheld shaky cam? Please? Yes, it's cool to show the sheer insanity of an attack from the victim's viewpoint. Once. But it kinda loses impact when you do it every single goddamn time. Learn how to shoot an action scene. And please watch something other than "The Bourne Identity" for pointers.
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was dang hot.
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Imogen Poots (snicker) is the hot daughter. Not Emily Beecham. IMDB says she was in V for Vendetta. Who was she and can I like an actress with such a career killing name? People want to know.
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The ending is horrible and therefore makes this movie horrible for me. Who would pay to see a depressing movie.
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First, for AvengingFist: what 2 girls, what crash, what movie did you see? The one I saw ended with a boy and girl getting on a helicopter, that copter did go south over Dover where the Chunnel is, but I don't recall a crash. I think the Chunnel ending is independent of the helicopter scene. (And it amazes me the things people in the US don't know. Sample comments overheard after the movie: "Well I didn't get the ending" "I thought that tower thingy was in France" "I didn't know the London subway tunnels went to Paris" Get a clue, folks!) As for the RC bit... had that spoiled by a newspaper article, on how much he hated wearing the "zombie contact lenses". And I think maybe the mutated version theory has merits as an explanation for why he kept stalking the kids; perhaps he retained enough intelligence to recognize on some primal level that the kid was different, that his existence posed a threat to the virus? Worked for me regardless; any excuse to get us more scenes of Zombie Begbie...
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Sorry, I'm still really pissed by how disappointed I was in this movie. I mean, the trailer gave me goosebumps. The Muse song, the guy calling the code red and the wink. My god, the wink. That killed me. So naturally, they left it out of the movie. God forbid there be just a moment of poignancy. Instead, we get a whole bunch of bullshit about immunity and recessive genes and crap. That was the whole beauty of the rage virus in 28 Days Later. It was insidious. There was no getting around it. You so much as got a drop of blood on you and you were fucked. Being immune to it is like saying you're impervious to cancer. Or telemarketers.
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Read that elsewere and it's the best way to analyse it.
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It's one of the things I really missed from the trailer. Actually it's the only thing I missed from the trailer. Put it back in for the dvd guys.
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are both listed as producers, and I notice on IMDB Boyle is credited as having directed some of the Second unit stuff - seems like they were involved. I'm pretty sure the original script came from Garland as well.
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Slapshot, I saw the same article, and the headline on my yahoo page was the spoiler! I could NOT fucking believe they gave that away! RC should be reprimanded and the publicist that allowed that bit to leak should be fired...I mean FRIED! Still, I liked the movie, despite its flaws. The beginning was the bomb, and I liked the rest of it mostly, but there were quite a few "dumbfuck" moments; y'know where smart people do really STUPID things. And the helicopter scene! Whoa! I thought that was cool in Grindhouse...oh, I won't say anymore. Ultimately, it was a good movie, and I'll see it again soon...
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I absoltuely loved this movie, from the opening right to the brilliantly almost apocalypic ending. Sure it has some glaring plot holes you could run a few thousand infected through but meh every movie has em. What we have here is a fucking 5star zombie(isk) movie for horror lovers thats intense, gory as fuck (the helicopter scene was completely unexpected and mindblowingly done. One of the best bits for me was when RC turned, he was class and really showed the rage virus in what he done to his helpless wife. Loved all the army bits, they were realistically done in my book acting pretty much as you would expect them to do and the whole stalker bit with RC although lacking, was still scarey shit. Yup i fucking loved this movie and hopefully it makes a ton of money and we get more RUNNING zombie movies because lets face it, getting chased by these fuckers is a lot scarier and intense than a bunch of lumbering dead.
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Just got back from that movie - and all I can say is HOLY FRAKKIN HELL! Loved it, loved it, loved it! My previous favourite scene in horror history was that part from Evil Dead 2 when the deadite's head got squashed in the cellar trap-door and the eyeball shot across the room in to that girl's mouth... But after seeing 28WL today, that helicopter scene in the field just took the cake!! I giggled like a school girl whilst fist pumping the air like I'd just won the superbowl! YAAAAAH!
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and how do we get her in more movies?
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I loved that moment in the trailer, too, and found myself waiting for it, waiting for it, and then...the guy is incinerated. Was NOT expecting that AT ALL, BECAUSE I was waiting for that wink. As much as I loved the wink in the trailer, its absence here really made me more shocked when what happened happened. I wonder if all this was intentional?
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You can usually tell a badly written movie by how much the plot hangs on characters doing things no reasonable person would do. And without people doing really stupid things every step of the way, this movie wouldn't even exist. To me, that defines a crappy movie. Or, at the very least, crappy writing.
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Great rule of thumb. By that measure, 28WL was really rather insulting.
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That thing was way better than the one Wayne and Garth had at the Alice Cooper concert. "Hmm, I'd really like to visit my wife who I haven't seen since she was in the evil clutches of the infected. But hey, I'm sure she's fine. In fact, maybe I'll make out with her. Thank goodness I have this badge that lets me go everywhere. Even into a highly controlled quarantine area. Well, I guess it's not all that highly controlled if there's no guard there. I mean, why would there be? She's just a medical miracle and the possible cure for the entire outbreak. I love my all-access badge. I just hope that if, god forbid, I ever get infected, I still remember how to use it. You know, even though I'll be a slobbering zombie. They can still remember how to swipe a badge through a scanner though, right? That'd be awesome. Thank you, all-access badge."
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Entertaining but stupid. This movie relied heavily on the classic "Deus ex Morona" or god from the idiot.
The whole movie would have been stopped dead at several points if the characters hadn't either acted like complete idiots or else been saved by a plot device only an idiot could love.
For the people who rave about how fantastic this movie was, it's pure fanboyism at it's best. They love zombies, or the first movie and so overlook the plot holes. In this case whole plot=plot hole.
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but I just wanted to know- how many morons have been complaining "they're not zombies, they're infected!"
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Just as many morons that have been complaining about 28WL being "another 'zombie' movie".
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... maybe you could say that his new film "Sunshine" shares at least 75% of its plot/major events with a 10 year old movie "Event Horizon".
Except that in the case of Sunshine (as opposed to Event Horizon), the reason the first ship failed in its mission (to reignite the sun) and what happens to the crew makes *no* sense whatsoever. At least Event Horizon had some sort of a reason and a mystery to it, Sunshine handles its parallel situation in a most perfunctory and unsatisfactory way at best. -
... Haven't seen the film yet but I have seen that aerial shot from the trailer. OK, if they're *not* zombies, well then shouldn't the firestorm consumed all the oxygen and suffocated him anyway even if he wasn't directly in the blast itself, alley or no alley? (cross reference with dog/tunnel/Independence Day/movie/1996/firestorm/arguments about the dog surviving for the same reason etc).
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... even stuff like reconstituted samples of the 1918 Influenza Virus are in Level 4 Biohazard containment facilities, with spacesuits and airlocks amongst other things. They're also in the hardest to reach parts of the buildings they're in with several manned security checkpoints.
So the original scenes in the first film where a bunch of wildlife protestors just break in to an unguarded room with something as dangerous as the Rage Virus seem kind of ridiculous, really, especially since the scientist in that scene knew how dangerous it was and said they had to kill the infected protestor immediately. Something that dangerous, it'd be all but impossible to get near in the first place. -
It's good, it's good!
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Why are people having so much trouble with Paris being infected. The daughter became carrier at the end obviously carried the virus outside the country. Wasnt that hard you guys. Also I loved the movies pessmistic streak.
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stupidest movie of 2007
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Well, the rest of the summer is spoiled for me. In terms of pacing and scares, nothing in recent history comes close. I have to go back to "Aliens" for comparison's sake. The characters are paper-thin, but you can't do too much drama when everyone's running for their lives for 90% of the film.
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As for the "Why did this...why did that crowd...", hindsight is 20/20. Yeah, the Catherine McCormack character should have been under better surveillance, but the U.S. soldiers didn't appreciate her importance. Rose Byrne's character was the only one to figure it out, and all hell broke loose before she could go public with that news. Regarding the brutality of the deaths (fingers through eyeballs etc.), the "Rage" virus was originally developed as a biological weapon intentionally designed to turn people into bloodthirsty homicidal maniacs. Regarding additional NATO reinforcements offshore or in other countries: I fully expect that these will be part of the inevitable sequel. Regarding Robert Carlyle turning up everywhere: I got no idea.
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Wait a second...
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Its interesting that so many of you seem to have a problem with the incredibly mean spirirted tone particuraly the ending where rescuing a young boy ends up leading to what we assume is the end of civilization. If you want useless brutality watch any other horror nowadays. I was refreshed by the brutal tone to the film.
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Wait a second...
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I thought 28 Weeks Later was a bit uneven - it had some really great ideas in there - RC's cowardice, Code Red, The subway outbreak, an uncompromising willingness to kill the main characters, and the awesome chopper scene.
However it also had the holes in logic (well documented here), an over-reliance on shakey-cam and, my biggest bugbear in horror films - Loud jump scares. It's a lazy technique, and I thought this film would have been just fine without them.
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Loved the film. pisses all over Spiderboy 3. But why did the only Northerner in the entire film have to be a slightly camp, scouse coward?
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Okay, so I take it the film is apparently unrealistic because of the mind boggingly stupid decisions of some of the characters and the millitary characters in particular. I also take it the film attempts to draw a parallel between the "zombie" outbreak and current affairs, situations like Iraq. Have any of you turned on a television set or read a newspaper lately? Thousands of people are making catastrophically stupid and glaringly obvious mistakes every day over there. You mean the government co-ordinated the rescue affairs poorly? Like with Hurricane Katrina? For a great number of people in a chaotic situation to behave with common sense and rationallity would be mighty unrealistic.
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It wasn't the military who made questionable decisions. It was the filmmakers.
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They started off with a great premise Begbey letting his wife die to save his own ass and shit all over it. As someone else mentioned the writing is so bad the only way the plot moves forward is by having one of the characters do something really stupid. The chemical weapons attack scene was really lame and the shaky cam thing was overused.
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Come-on people, sure the movie has massive holes but the good bits far outweigh the silly bits. I mean how many bloody zombie/apocalyptic movies do we actually get?? After Romero’s complete and utter piss of a movie Land of the Dead, were lucky anyone actually takes the risk to make one. So when one comes along that’s soo fucking good we should be spreading the word to get more people to go see the thing so it makes money and we get more zombie/apocalyptic movies preferably not made by Romero. 28weeks had so many fucking insane moments and it moved so fast that you didn’t have time to think about the obvious cause you where so caught up in the frantic pace and hanging onto to the edge of your seat as these rage nutters went berserk, to anyone on the fence about this or put off by the plot holes, go fucking see it, if you like horror movies and lets face it Hollywood turns out a severe shitload of crap every year that it makes 28weeks later a complete breath of fresh air. Horror fans should not miss this.
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And 28 Weeks Later is one of them
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I guess a problem with that is if mainland Europe managed to avoid the infection spreading there during the original outbreak when no-one knew what was going on and there were hoards of infected, then it seems highly unlikely it would happen once people are aware of the situation (and hence supposedly now on their guard) and most of the infected are now dead.
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...there were so many INCREDIBLY well-done moments here. It is OBVIOUS that this is a step-above the standard "throw it together in 3 weeks" fare garbage that passes for "horror" these days. Anyone who can just cast this movie aside without recognizing those superior elements wears his ass for a hat.
Debating whether or not it was "good" or even "great" is a different matter. I think it was very good. It could have been great. That's what's frustrating to me. It could've been one of the all-time greats with a few plot changes that have already been discussed here.
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Someone with half a brain. Look, if you want to enjoy the film as pure dumb escapism, that's fine. I'm glad you liked it. But to attack people unwilling to overlook glaring logic flaws seems rather stupid. Not as stupid as a stalker zombie who remembers how to use a keycard, but stupid nonetheless.
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Sorry, you got me a little worked up there.
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Anyone care to tell me what the PS was?
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I just have to say that this film was amazing. I absolutely loved it and found it to be one of the best action flicks in years. The first thing I thought when I got out was how similar in feel the movie was to Aliens (ie. a terrible situation with no real possibility of survival and an overwhelming sense of dread). No movie has come close to recreating the feel of Aliens until this movie. Time will tell if it stands up during repeated viewings like Aliens, but I think it will. Also, the good soldier was awesome and reminded me of Hicks. Loved all the soldier banter too.
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1. That poor woman being brutally and slowly killed by her husband after surviving seven months living on crap.
2. Willem Dafoe's portrait in Spider-Man 3. Seriously, I don't care if that is Harry's father I wouldn't want that thing in the house. -
I'd worry about someone who sees this film as "dumb escapism." The scene where the mother is killed alone is one of the most disturbing, brutal, shocking things I've ever seen anywhere. The scene where the father is biting his son's neck like a ravenous animal had a nearly equal effect. It hits you in the gut to see these things, it's hardly a world you want to "escape" into. And yet, it's impossible to turn away from.
Were there parts of the movie that WERE dumb? Yes, and I still think the "Carlyle zombie" was a betrayal of what the first film set up re: the virus itself and how it works. I'd like to hear what the writers say about it.
So, yes, logic problems abound, but despite it all, there are some PROFOUNDLY powerful moments in this film, for better or worse, and even with its problems, it is a film that does NOT deserve to be casually tossed on the same scrapheap as junk like "Hills Have Eyes 2" or "The Reaping" or any other such tripe. -
There were actually quite a few things I liked about it. The opening scene was incredible. So was the chopper scene. But overall, I was expecting a heck of a lot more. Like a decent script that didn't rely almost entirely on people making implausibly bad decisions. No, it doesn't belong with crap like The Hills Have Eyes II, but it also doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Aliens. Not unless I missed the scene in Aliens where the alien mother used her keycard to gain access to the quarantine area.
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I went in with really low expectations. I loved the first one and was worried by the lack of any returning actors or director. The preview looked pretty good and the poster art excellent. The beginning was just amazing and the movie really didn't let up. Just riveting stuff. Minor grumble about how the kids were able to sneak out into the restricted area but I can overlook that because they did a good job of showing how bored most of the soldiers were because nothing significant had really happened in months. Major grumble with the security around the mother and how easily the janitor was able to get into see her... but that has been mentioned above. Other than those two issues I thought the movie was just brilliant. I hope it does really well at the box because I want to see what's next. If there is another sequel what would it be called - 28 Months later? I kind of want it to continue right on from were 28 weeks later ended but seeing the destruction of Europe, Asia and Africa 2 years after the intial outbreak would be pretty interesting...
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My rant was based on those who said the movie was TOTAL crap, who give those annoying, "meh, who cares" comments. Problems with it? No problem. Me too. But there were many stunning moments that made it interesting and artistic nonetheless. If they had only trimmed off some of the fat, sewn up a few logic holes, it would've been one of the most effective horror films ever, imo.
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I do wonder if the third one (assuming there will be) would finally have the virus hit our shores and if the setup would be any more or less chaotic. The change of terrain would definitely liven things up a bit but does anyone think the containment might be more unpredicatable here just because of the 2nd ammendment?
I set it in the midwest while everyone in flyover country watches it all unfold in horror. I can guarantee you the tension would be unbearable just because rural settings can maddenly quiet.
Also, do the infected attack animals too? I haven't read the graphic novel so I haven't seen anything to suggest this. Plus, it would be a hell of a sight seeing a bunch of infected trying to take on a grizzly bear at the zoo, then seeing their heads fly off like champagne corks. -
The first film really didn't set up all that many rules about the zombies. They're too overcome by rage to function rationally [or use a can opener, it seems] but they do have some basic abilities - they hide in the tunnel, they open doors [apparently the nurses had to lock the hero's door at the hospital to keep him safe], the priest stays at the church, etc. Maybe the guy chasing his children was pure instinct, or just familiarity, like the priest staying at the church.
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but based on all of the haters on this thread I think I actually like the movie MORE now!
Some of your complaints of "logic gaps" are just stupid.
Why WOULDN'T RC be able to get in to see his wife? Why wouldn't he? She was a survivor. She'd been scrubbed down and scanned. Only the one doctor knew she was infected. It makes total sense that in that situation someone might not have the foresight to think that this woman showing ZERO symptoms (and no zombie had ever shown ZERO symptoms) and being completely scrubbed down was a threat. She WASN'T a threat.
No symptoms people. No symptoms. That's not a logic gap at all. She was in the infirmary.
Someone said RC opened doors with his access card as a zombie. I don't remember this at all. Maybe I missed it.
Someone also said they hated all the cheap jump scenes. Loud noise, startling image... BOO! Scare. Um... I'm thinking back and I can't think of one in the whole movie. When the zombie woman showed up at the door there was no noise, just her eyes.
The subway scene in night vision had images flashing back and forth... shadows...
There was always something telling you that something horrible was about to happen. No cheap scares at all. I honestly can't think of one. But I could have missed one... I don't jump easy.
And someone was even pissing and moaning that somehow the infection spread at the end of THIS movie when it couldn't spread after the first... why is this a logic gap or hard to swallow? The way it jumped, with that stupid kid who the sniper should have just offed when he had the chance carrying it over in his immune system... makes perfect logical sense. I like it even. Makes the army general guy seem smarter when he said to "kill them all."
And did someone or someones actually complain about the dark nihilistic tone? Did you think you were buying a ticket to a Strawberry Shortcake and the CareBears crossover cartoon? It's effing 28 Weeks Later! It's about zombies! It's about rage and killing and violence and the end of the effing world. Is there anything that should be MORE nihilistic or however you spell it? C'mon you haters. Step up your game.
That said, I do hate that RC killed his wife with the thumbes to the eyes. I thought that was a cheap riff on the end of 28 Days Later... and the kill in the original setting and circumstances was one of the great cinematic moments I've ever experienced. The most horrific thing I'd ever seen (I don't usually like gore) in a movie but perfectly placed. I thought this film's use of the kill in the different circumstance cheapened it.
And I wish the Hicks guy would have lived. But that's just me.
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because it was nothing but flagrant over-usage of the conventions and techniques from 28 Days Later. And the fact that Robert Carlyle's zombie is the one that turns up at the end to infect his son - out of the tens of thousands of infected roaming around - is fucking shameless. How stupid do they think we are? It wasn't bad, but it certainly wasn't good.
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...(I know, I know, "infected" prisoner), who was chained up in the backyard. Come to think of it, he seemed to be able to "think" a little at times, as in when he realized he couldn't get to Cillian because of his chain, and he sort of slunk away in despair. Also, he seemed to know that his main targets after his release were his former soldier-friends.
I don't know. Seeing the movie again tonight and will try to make more sense of RC's seeming intelligence spike in comparison to the other infected. -
When he last saw her, she was being attacked by the infected. He's already seen what they've done to his roommates. And yet, his wife makes it out unscathed. That doesn't raise a few questions in his mind? Wouldn't he at least wait until morning to get a medical explanation for why she's not dead? As I said earlier, the only way the plot advanced was by people doing stupid things at every turn. To me, that's the sign of a bad script. As for the keycard, how else do you think Stalker Zombie Begbie got in the room where they put all the evacuees?
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ESPECIALLY if I thought my act of cowardice had led to her death and there she is alive... not only alive but offering the first reprive to my troubled sould and conscience?! C'mon! You'd need a whole army to keep me away! Don't be silly. That's not a "stupid" thing to do at all!!!!
He got into the room with the evacuees because he was pounding on the door... remember... first it was slow and faint... then louder... then he saw his boy and BANG he burst through the door. He was pounding on it the whole time, not reaching for a keycard. He forced his way inside.
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what happened? I loved the movie by the way.
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There is a difference between following a seemingly strange series of events that would be unlikey and creating unbelieveable connections where there are none as in Spiderman. There was no scene in this close to the Venom Sandman meeting and the Butler scene.
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the shaky camera thing... there's a difference between the shaky camera in this movie and a shaky camera in, say, a kung fu movie. It worked perfect here. Not a problem at all.
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That thing's right next to New York, New York on the strip, isn't it?
Wait, who am I talking to? Everyone saw this last week, didn't they? Ah well.
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