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Moriarty Chats Briefly With The Rock Regarding SHAZAM!

Published at: May 10, 2007, 5:11 a.m. CST by Moriarty

Very early Wednesday morning, I braved the nightmare that is southbound traffic on the 101 so I could join a few other online writers for a visit to the set of GET SMART. There were two dates available: one featuring Steve Carell, The Rock, Dave Koechner, and Terry Crews, and the other featuring Carell and Anne Hathaway. Anything regarding GET SMART is still under embargo, but at one point, as the group of us were talking to The Rock, the subject naturally turned to SHAZAM!, which is scheduled to be directed by Peter Segal, who is the director of GET SMART. IGN’s Stax was the first to broach the subject, asking if Segal had ever brought the idea up to The Rock. What was surprising was just how forthcoming The Rock was: “Yeah. He did. Listen, John August is writing the script and he’s a tremendous writer, and I’ll just wait for the script to come in. I’d love to work with Pete again, and I would certainly want to work with John August. So it’s a possibility.” IESB’s Robert Sanchez was the next to ask about the film, asking about the costume and whether it would be updated or not. The Rock talked about just how much passion Segal has for the project and the character and assured us that it would be in very good hands. A few more questions about GET SMART went by, and then they called lunch. Everyone started to file out, and I found myself standing alone with The Rock. I passed on to him some comments made by a filmmaker friend about his potential as a movie star, and we started to chat as we walked out of the warehouse where the shooting was taking place. He asked me about SHAZAM!, and, in particular, about the character of Black Adam. “Which one do you think is a good fit for me?” Look, standing face to face with Dwayne Johnson, the guy is the right choice for either role. He’d make a killer bad guy, having fun with it, and he’s certainly got the look to pull off Black Adam. But there’s also a decency to him that’s almost immediate when you’re talking to him, this open quality. I told him what it is that has always made Captain Marvel such an interesting character in my opinion. “You’ve seen BIG, right, with Tom Hanks?” “Sure.” “Well, this is BIG with a cape. Billy Batson’s just a kid. But when he says that magic word, in an instant he’s turned into... well... you. It’s like giving a ten-year-old the keys to a Lamborghini. Black Adam might be a nice fit for you... but the role is Captain Marvel.” He got the funniest smile on his face as we talked for a few more moments about how careful he’s trying to be in mixing up starring roles and supporting roles and action and comedy right now, and then we shook hands as he headed off to lunch. This is a long way from happening. There’s no guarantee they’ll even offer a role to Johnson. But if they do, I hope he considers it. As action stars go, there are very few who can match him right now for both physical presence and for actual acting ability.


Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles

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  • May 10, 2007, 5:13 a.m. CST

    Not a Bad Choice

    by Samson_K

    I like the Rock - I think he has charisma and isn't a bad actor - not a great actor that I've seen but he might pull off Captain Marvel.

  • May 10, 2007, 5:16 a.m. CST

    First, but it needs werewolves.

    by Uncle Stan

    Aaaaarrrrrrooooooooooooooooo.

  • May 10, 2007, 5:17 a.m. CST

    has the chin

    by Mr_X

    but looks nothing like billy batson!

  • May 10, 2007, 5:18 a.m. CST

    I actually like the rock

    by Mr_X

    i've seen a couple of interviews with him, he seems such a nice guy, well rounded and intelligent. he gets it. and is an everyman kinda guy.

  • May 10, 2007, 5:19 a.m. CST

    SHAZAM

    by Napoleon Park

    I called this (Rock as Black Adam) months ago.

  • May 10, 2007, 5:22 a.m. CST

    March 26th, 2007

    by Napoleon Park

    Captain Marvel - Patrick Warburton (Puddy, The Tick, Brock Samson, etc.) Billy Batson - Austin Majors (Theo Sipowicz on "NYPD Blue") Captain Marvel, Jr. - Jesse Metcalfe (John Rowland on "Desperate Housewives") Mary Marvel - Hayden Panetteire (Claire Bennet on "Heroes") The Wizard Shazam - David Carradine (Bill in "Kill Bill") Dr. Bodag Sivana - Armin Shimmerman (Quark on "DS9") Black Adam - Dwight Johnson ("The Scorpion King") Mr. Mind - Gilbert Gottfried (Iago the Parrot in "Hercules") Mr. Talky Tawny - Ron Perlman (Vincent on "Beauty and the Beast") Uncle Dudley - Andy Richter ("Andy Richter Controls The Universe")

  • May 10, 2007, 5:24 a.m. CST

    I'm not sure sure about this as a standalone movie

    by Mr_X

    ive always thought marvel was kinda dated, the cape especially. would be great in an essemble piece like JLU

  • May 10, 2007, 5:41 a.m. CST

    BIG with a cape.

    by vroom socko

    That's about perfect. How is it no one at DC (Jeff Smith excluded) understands that? They're going grim 'n gritty with the Big Red Cheese and turning Mr. Mind into some sort of cross between Galactus and a Giger alien.

  • May 10, 2007, 5:55 a.m. CST

    THIS YEAR'S LITTLE MISS JASON OF STAR COMMAND!

    by Pennsy

    Well, close to it, anyway?

  • May 10, 2007, 5:59 a.m. CST

    "Big" with a cape. Nice.

    by Bronx Cheer

    That ability to distill a concept or character into four words that nail it is a talent that will serve you well, Mori.

  • May 10, 2007, 6:27 a.m. CST

    The Rock should *not* be Captain Marvel...

    by Sledge Hammer

    ...but The Rock would make a great Black Adam, and if the script is handled correctly and stays true to the characters then one could argue that Adam is the better of the two roles anyway, he's not an out and out villian, he's more of an anti-hero that because of his own tragedies engages in what some would call villainous acts. Both roles are 'split' characters with complex personalities, but at least in the case of Teth Adam he wouldn't have to share that with another actor. <p>Oh, and not to rag on anybody, but people have been calling this "Big with a cape" long before Moriarty did, so it's hardly a new quickfire encapsulation of the concept. <p>As to why DC "don't get it", some people at DC very much do get the good Captain...Judd "I like to break characters so I can remake them just because I'm bored and lazy" Fucking Hack Winick is not one of those people though. And sadly he's the guy with the keys to the Marvel Family characters at the moment. Bring back Jerry Ordway I say.

  • May 10, 2007, 6:28 a.m. CST

    Oh breap

    by robotdevil

    the "BIG" Bision of Shazam sucks crap off a stick and been nothing but a failure for two decades. Why is every jack-ass acssociated with this project (Segal, August) convinced that for some reason they're going make an interesting movie out of a version of a comic character that has been so unpopular he can't even carry his own title!!!! These men are fucking brain-ded and this movie going to be a huge turd.

  • May 10, 2007, 6:31 a.m. CST

    Hey Mori!

    by johnnykool

    Thank you for giving him that advice. I hope if they offer him either role he goes back to what you told him and keeps that firmly in mind while filming. <p>Rock on. You done good.

  • May 10, 2007, 6:45 a.m. CST

    SHHHHHHH, Don't give him any ideas!!!

    by LHombreSiniestro

    I'm jk, I have no real opinion.

  • May 10, 2007, 7:06 a.m. CST

    He'd be great in that role

    by sHapesHiftinLizard

    , he would be too cartoony for Superman but CptMarvel? Perfect. Hope this happens, but only if it's a decent movie and not something awful, i dont know this directors other movies, but he currently doing another TV show spin off? Dunno, this could go several ways, a complete joke, fun but forgettable or a good example of how a ultra powerful superman type should really take up the screen with today's sfx.

  • May 10, 2007, 7:43 a.m. CST

    I dunno Sledge...

    by Damned if I can login

    Did ya read the original Black Adam story? It was in one of the oversized reprint books in the 70's. In his first appearance he was nothing short of evil. Deciding he was so powerful he should be ruling...bending the Pharoh backwards over his knee and snapping his spine (with a huge gnarly "CRACK" sound effect)...and when he was tricked into saying SHAZAM his body turned into a dessicated corpse! Man that was one dark story for what was basically a funny book. Oh BTW....how the hell do you put a line space into one of these posts???

  • May 10, 2007, 7:44 a.m. CST

    I would have been happier...

    by GOB Adama

    ...If Captain Marvel were in the hands of Brad Bird. Cest la vie.

  • May 10, 2007, 8:04 a.m. CST

    I like the Rock. Seems like a "real" dude. Funny as

    by kinghenryVIII

    hell too. I coukld give a shit about Shazam but he should do more action.

  • May 10, 2007, 8:09 a.m. CST

    The Rock.... aint bad

    by Seph_J

    but he's no Bruce Willis.

  • May 10, 2007, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Rock for Black Adam.

    by UltimaRex

    Brendan Fraser for Captain Marvel. Peter Jackson for JLA!

  • May 10, 2007, 8:24 a.m. CST

    What? The Rock as Cap?...

    by Kid Z

    ... and directed by the guy who's lensing Get Smart (which grapevine says is shaping up to be an unmitigated disaster)? Well, guess I'm skipping this one when it comes out!

  • May 10, 2007, 8:25 a.m. CST

    Yes, definitely the Rock for Black Adam...

    by SpyGuy

    Get an unknown for Captain Marvel, but how about Rachel McAdams for Mary Marvel and Ian McKellen for the wizard Shazam?

  • May 10, 2007, 8:36 a.m. CST

    not fond of the rock

    by jedimindflayer

    but i have to admit he'd be awesome in either role; he really does have the physical presence to pull either one off

  • May 10, 2007, 8:53 a.m. CST

    SSSSSSSHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAZAM! - Do it, Rock!

    by JDanielP

    It could be a lot of fun, seeing "The Rock" as Captain Marvel. And that's exactly what I hope he does. I would be VERY interested in seeing the results of such a flick. Sounds like a great choice, to me.

  • May 10, 2007, 8:57 a.m. CST

    But yeah, he could be great as either character.

    by JDanielP

    Either way, sounds great to me.

  • May 10, 2007, 9:09 a.m. CST

    talking point

    by jedimindflayer

    i hate to say it, but would the purists blow a fuse with regards to a non-white shazam? black adam has the requisite 'ethnic' (read: non-white) look, but we're dealing with a community that has an uproar whenever something deviates from established cannon (look at the kerfuffle over bsg casting to illustrate the point). sometimes, the material and performances are enough to overcome these (admittedly) minor issues- again, look to bsg as an example- but we need to ask if the man and matierial are good enough to hold up to the critisism. granted, i never have been a fan of dwayne (never cared for his flicks, nor his performances in 'em), but i did like his snl appearance; it showed he was a gamer, and was willing to take a chance. my personal tastes aside, he has charisma to burn, and could pull off a superhero role quite handily (and, in all likelyhood, the best actor for either role), but be prepared for the backlash.

  • May 10, 2007, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Well Damned...

    by Sledge Hammer

    ...No, actually I haven't read that story, sounds like something I might have to track down sometime. I've pretty much cut my teeth on all the various 80's attempts to relaunch/overhaul/reintroduce Captain Marvel, along with the reprints of a lot of the older Fawcett stuff, and pretty much been following him ever since.<p>Oh, and as for the line spaces, html is your friend. Just use paragraph breaks (ie. "p", only with <'s and >'s replacing the "'s on either side), hope that helps.

  • May 10, 2007, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Oh God damn it...

    by Sledge Hammer

    it invisibled the brackets. Okay, lets try that again: Just use the "(less than bracket)p(greater than bracket)" format (minus the quotes of course), just like using a paragraph break in regular html.

  • May 10, 2007, 9:21 a.m. CST

    What happened to Southland Tales?

    by ZoeFan

    So what happened to it?

  • May 10, 2007, 9:27 a.m. CST

    The Peoples Shazam!

    by Douche Baggins

    ...but when Billy Batson utters the words, JABRONI !! He becomes the peoples champion, SHAZAM!! I hope they get Ian McKellan to play the old pervy man that drives billy around in his RV, and I hope, hope he talks like Herbert from the Family Guy.."Hey muscley arms, you like popsicles?"

  • May 10, 2007, 9:31 a.m. CST

    I'm pretty much game for any superhero movie...

    by Jakes Nel

    ... but what are the odds they won't end up giving Captain Marvel a cool new cape with flames and nipples and shit.

  • May 10, 2007, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Shazam has more movie potential than Superman

    by pipergates

    If its told right and manages to convey the magic of a little boy turning into a hero...And the magick element is certainly very popular these days. Good idea to have Brad Bird on this.I think the Rock should actually play both roles. That could be amazing to see, and i think he would surprize people with his acting abilities.

  • May 10, 2007, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Shazam has more movie potential than Superman

    by pipergates

    If its told right and manages to convey the magic of a little boy turning into a hero...And the magick element is certainly very popular these days. Good idea to have Brad Bird on this.I think the Rock should actually play both roles. That could be amazing to see, and i think he would surprize people with his acting abilities.

  • May 10, 2007, 9:50 a.m. CST

    hey the site's messed up

    by pipergates

    didnt intend to post double

  • May 10, 2007, 10:03 a.m. CST

    A Superman/Captain Marvel team up movie?

    by Blueberry

    http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Events/2007%20Reaching%20for%20the%20Stars/ReachingStars_017.jpg

  • May 10, 2007, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Good casting call - but does anyone really give a shit?

    by Steve Rogers

    I mean... it's Captain Marvel! The big red cheese's popularity peaked like 60 years ago! I can't see him opening a big tentpole feature on the scale that Hollywood demands - if Superman can't fo it... (although, in fairness, Superman Returns was fucking boring. Although, in more fairness, Shazam! stands a fair chance o fbeing shit if it's directed by Peter Fucking Segal).

  • May 10, 2007, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Good casting call - but does anyone really give a shit?

    by Steve Rogers

    I mean... it's Captain Marvel! The big red cheese's popularity peaked like 60 years ago! I can't see him opening a big tentpole feature on the scale that Hollywood demands - if Superman can't fo it... (although, in fairness, Superman Returns was fucking boring. Although, in more fairness, Shazam! stands a fair chance o fbeing shit if it's directed by Peter Fucking Segal).

  • May 10, 2007, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Jeff Smith's Shazam!

    by Colier Rannd

    I'd like to see it done based on the current miniseries by Jeff Smith. That said, Johnson can pull it off. I think what really will make the movie work will not be Captain Marvel per se but who plays Billy? If it's some awful kid who's just cute...it'll blow. I could mention some names of kids that are horrible actors but that wouldn't make anybody happy(ness, ahem). There are good child actors though so let's hope they get one. Many blessings to all.

  • May 10, 2007, 11:10 a.m. CST

    It is exactly because he's of a bygone age...

    by GOB Adama

    ...That Captain Marvel has POTENTIAL (as opposed to assurance). There have been many instances, recently, of genre films making the old new again (epic fantasy, sword and sandals, pirates) provided it is done right. <p></p> This project could still go either way, but I see The Rocks even mild interest as a positive sign (but FAR from a lock). <p></p> "The Incredibles" is proof that a family-focused superhero movie is possible. Again, if done right. <p></p> Personally, I'd love to see (as has been mentioned already) Patrick Wharburton as Marvel, but that aint gonna happen, probably. <p></p> Brendan Fraiser's name was also mentioned already, and his skill at playing heroic man-children is well documented (love or hate the films themselves, he's good at that schtick while in them). I do think that a film featuring Frasier as Marvel and the Rock as Adam would have just enough pull to maybe generate some gravity for this level of project. I would HOPE so, and hope is central to Captain Marvel.

  • May 10, 2007, 11:21 a.m. CST

    As long a she doesn't do that eyebrow thing

    by Acappellaman

    I got tired of that after the first time he did it. He does have some talent, and definitely a presence, so I could see him pulling it off.

  • May 10, 2007, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Acappellaman

    by GOB Adama

    It's the Rock, of course he'd do the eyebrow thing. It's like asking if Ah-Nold will say "I'll be back." <p>If they do a little make-up job on him and give him Cap's trade-mark heavy brows and THEN do they eye-brow thing, I'd actually be amused.

  • May 10, 2007, 12:35 p.m. CST

    PATRICK WHARBURTON!!!!

    by a rolling stone

    He's the man. He's got the squinty eyes. He's got the square jaw. He's big. He smiles alot, and has the gift of acting like both a tough guy and a little kid at the same time. Did anyone watch The Tick? This guy was MADE for the role. The Rock could play Thet-Adam, but I've got no clue who would make a good Sivana. One of those Ferengi dudes from Star Trek, probably.

  • May 10, 2007, 12:48 p.m. CST

    I love the Rock but

    by Lando Griffin

    not all comic book characters need films nor are they all translatable to the big screen.

  • May 10, 2007, 12:51 p.m. CST

    The Rock has more movie potential than Superman

    by Vern

    I have to agree with the unnamed filmatist, The Rock has so much more potential than he's getting a chance to use doing these mediocre movies. I don't know what the fuck Shazoom is and obviously he's friends with Peter Segal, I'm sure he's a nice guy and they would have fun working together. But the fact is that dude will never direct a high quality movie in his life. When you've done as many movies as he has it's clear, he's not gonna suddenly get a vision and skills this late in his career. I don't want to be an asshole, but when people talk about a "hack," that means Peter Segal and Shawn Levy. Sincerely, I think Bret Rattner is a visionary genius compared to those guys. The Rock should be looking for Soderbergh, Tarantino and people like that who would know both how to showcase him properly and how to bring something new out of him as an actor. He almost got to do an Altman movie! He needs to be hooking up with a higher caliber of directors if the prophecy of Greatest Former Wrestler Actor of All Time is gonna be fulfilled.

  • May 10, 2007, 1 p.m. CST

    No Way!

    by Norm3

    The Rock looks nothing like Capt Marvel bad idea!

  • May 10, 2007, 1:47 p.m. CST

    The Rock

    by ManosTHOF

    I think the Rock would be good. I just hope the movie lives up to it. He certainly has the charisma and enthusiasm.

  • May 10, 2007, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Can't wait. Loved the show as a kid.

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    I hope it's campy as fuck. Really I know that may not bode well with some of you on here but if you ever watched the show as a kid you would understand why I say this. I've never really looked at Captain Marvel as a serious hero but more symbolic gesture of yesteryear from comics since past and there was ALWAYS camp in the Captain Marvel comic books and certainly the show made you chuckle. Anyway that's my two sense. Great casting choice having Dwayne on board.

  • May 10, 2007, 2:03 p.m. CST

    wtf SHAZOOM is

    by Napoleon Park

    Vern doesn't know wtf Shazoom is. It's the magic word said by Captain Marbles. It is an acronym which stands for: Strength, Health, Aptitude, Zeal, Ox - the strength of, Ox - The strength of another, and Money. [from "Superduperman" in Mad Comics issue #4.]

  • May 10, 2007, 2:22 p.m. CST

    THE ROCK SAYS...

    by The Real MiraJeff

    It doesn't matter what The Rock says, here's what I'm saying. The Rock has the potential to be one of the biggest stars on the planet. I've interviewed him before and this guy is the real deal. He's a charmer for sure, and he has real presence. The guy's got the twinkle in his eye, the smile, everything. Women were following this guy around like The Beatles. Personally I think he's a better actor than people give him credit for. He's a little one-dimensional, but I think that's just rust he hasn't shaken from his wrestling days. Trust me, this guy is capable of action, comedy, you name it. He made Gridiron Gang and Doom completely watchable (no small feat in either case), he was the best part of Be Cool and I can't wait to see him in Southland Tales. There's something very tongue-in-cheek about him, as if he's very self aware of people's perception of him as 'just a wrestler' but his physicality is nearly unrivaled and his comic timing is getting better with each movie. I'm sure Segal will make the most of his screentime in Get Smart, which I'm looking forward to despite early word that the script's not so hot. If The Rock were a stock, I'd buy now, cuz the only direction he's going is up. Personally I don't think Gerry Butler is the next big action star, it's The Rock that's cookin, and if this guy lands the right franchise, Hollywood should look out.

  • May 10, 2007, 2:33 p.m. CST

    The Rock...

    by GOB Adama

    ...Is not the near-exact image of the character that Wharburton is. He is, however, the most BANKABLE choice (or Brendan Frasier as mentioned above, and that is important, sorry to say) and looks close-enough to pull it off. <p>P.S. <p>Kudos to this talkback for not making race an issue, as too often happens. There is hope for human yet! <p>Captain Marvel would be proud of ya!

  • May 10, 2007, 2:34 p.m. CST

    I have to agree with Vern and MiraJeff

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    I've always loved Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. His movie choices have not been great but I remember how the best part of The Mummy Returns was his small bit role in it. The guy is just a super star stuck with making some bad choices for roles. But he has so much range when you think about it. Comedy, Drama, Action Hero. Given the chance he could be an Oscar contender one day. He's just a very focused driven guy and it exudes from his persona when you hear him speak in interviews. Hope he reads AICN and hey have him do a Talkback closer to this movie coming out! Chop chop Harry! <BR> <BR> BTW if they ever do an Evil Dead remake he would be the ONLY person I could think of that could play Ash and make it work. Think about that one for a second.

  • May 10, 2007, 2:36 p.m. CST

    how about it Brad Bird?

    by pipergates

    it's the perfect movie to make as a kind of hybrid cg-animated/live action thing,Bird is the master storyteller and the Rock as agreed has the potential.the Tick guy has the look but he's too pedestrian.

  • May 10, 2007, 3:06 p.m. CST

    I'm biased...

    by GOB Adama

    ...by his time w/ 'The Simpsons' as well as 'The Iron Giant' and 'The Incredibles' so my opinion may be suspect... But Brad Bird can handle ANY comic-book property out there. In fact, I wanna hand him the more oddball ones as he would work them into an AWESOME flick I could take my kids to.

  • May 10, 2007, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Black Adam?

    by wowsah156

    If The Rock plays Captain Marvel who would be up to the job of playing Black Adam? Very difficult. I was seeing this has the opposite. Have The Rock play Black Adam and have Adam Baldwin (Serenity) play Captain Marvel. Done.

  • May 10, 2007, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Moriarty...

    by trombone

    "As action stars go, there are very few who can match him right now for both physical presence and for actual acting ability". What are you talking about, bro'? "actual acting ability"? REALLY? I know you think it's cool he shook your hand and all, but "actual acting ability"? Is this as opposed to "imaginary acting ability"? Not trying to dis you (well, I am a little bit), but please explain that last sentence.

  • May 10, 2007, 4:30 p.m. CST

    "Greatest Former Wrestler Actor of All Time" ... did

    by chrth

    Vern just blaspheme?!? ROWDY ROWDY PIPER IS THE GREATEST FORMER WRESTLER ACTOR OF ALL TIME.

  • May 10, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST

    uh..

    by CaptGrogan

    You cant have Will Smith as Robin...You cant have Stallone as SHAFT. And no, fuckwads -you can't have the Rock as Captain Marvel. Black Adam? Sure - he's egyptian, and the Rock's look works for that role. I love the Rock - I think he's a talented actor, but he looks nothing like Captain Marvel. 'nuff said.

  • May 10, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST

    butler & the rock

    by pipergates

    so butler's an actor who happens to be big while the rock is a big fellow who happens to be able to act?

  • May 10, 2007, 4:47 p.m. CST

    oh no the white supremists shoved up

    by pipergates

    marvel has black hair and looks like he could be any whitish or tannedish race

  • May 10, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    white supremist?

    by CaptGrogan

    Hardly. Capt Marvel is a white character. Black Lightning is a black character. Im a purist when it comes to comics. I dont want organic webshooters, Dr. Doom wears armor and wasnt with the FF in space, Galactus is not a fucking cloud, and Capt Marvel is a white guy. That doesnt make me racist, it makes me a purist. Id be protesting just as loudly if they wanted to make SPAWN with a white guy as Al Simmons (bad enough they used a white guy to play hios best friend in the movie.) Newsflash - crying "white supremist!" or "racist" everytime someone makes a decision that doesnt agree with a person of color is WRONG. So, with all due respect, t.piper.gates, sod off.

  • May 10, 2007, 4:59 p.m. CST

    joke,just joke

    by pipergates

    i understand purism but i really dont think marvel looks that white to begin with

  • May 10, 2007, 4:59 p.m. CST

    what does reality TV have to do with it?

    by Napoleon Park

    I mean, I've heard the amazing Race is a decent show if you like that sort of thing, but why should it be an issue in casting someone to play a magical emmbodiment of the powers of legendary gods (and one biblical king)? *** Who is the False Mirajeff? When RM said "Women were following this guy around like The Beatles. Personally I think he's a better actor..." I thought he was saying he was a better actor than The Beatles. Ringo was actually pretty good in The Magic Christian. And George in Hard Day's Night as a hip, intelligent rock star making fun of the business types trying to exploit teen culture? Very convincing. *** Dwight Johnson a better actor than Roddy, Hogan, Tiny Lister, Andre the giant and Joanie Laurer? um, okay. Faint praise and all, but sure. But has he posed for Playboy?

  • May 10, 2007, 5:20 p.m. CST

    thanx for the lesson

    by pipergates

    what i dont get is why you supremists are so touchy anyway?

  • May 10, 2007, 5:21 p.m. CST

    fuck this, go back to wrestling already

    by Doc_Strange

    I don't know anyone who has ever willingly paid to see ANY of Rocky's movies. Personally I can't see him as anything else other than the Most Electrifying Man in Sports Entertainment, dropping the People's Elbow. Unfortunately, that's not in the cards. Though I suspect he'll be back in 10 years or so looking for a paycheck from McMahon after so many failed attempts that he'll have no other choice and he'll be dropping arthritic elbows on young talent ala Hulk Hogan. Bank on that.

  • May 10, 2007, 5:37 p.m. CST

    t.piper

    by CaptGrogan

    Damn you for making me laugh :) He IS white and all previous actors who ahve played him were too. http://www.supermanhomepage.com/multimedia/Wallpaper-Images/Supe-vs-CaptMarvel.jpg

  • May 10, 2007, 5:40 p.m. CST

    anyway

    by pipergates

    i realize you did say "with all due respect" so i guess thats ok, Ricky Bobby

  • May 10, 2007, 5:49 p.m. CST

    what is white anymore anyway?

    by pipergates

    hitler was part jewish aparently.the vikings mixed with the slavs.are the italians white? marvel looks kindof italian.frank zappa wasnt that white was he?.is there anyone in the states who doesnt have a mixed race family? the world is more and more a melting pot.and the Rock looks white enough for me,and for 90 % of these talbackers seems like.

  • May 10, 2007, 6:05 p.m. CST

    The Rundown

    by supersize

    No love for the Rundown that movie kicked ass! I think the guy ha alot of potential . But WTF I noticed on his imdb page his next flick is a football movie now I have nothing against sports flicks but he just made a football movie .Fire your agent man

  • May 10, 2007, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Has potential

    by WarpedElements

    Get Walburton to play CM, I can see him as a new to the game superhero who suddenly has all this power. Rock as Teth-Adam/Black Adam has got to be perfect. And for those of you out there who fail as fanboys, SHAZAM was the Wizard who imbued them with powers. He's an old robed white guy. Black Adam was Mediterranian/Egyptian-esce. The Rock could pull it off easy. It's too bad Tony what's his face from Reboot/Legacy of Kain games is dead. His deep voiced seriousness and older look woulda been perfect for the Wizard Shazam. Still dunno who i'd want to play Billy Bastion though. And if all goes well with the movie, there'd be a spin off (a-la Scorpion King) as a prequel, Teth Adam before he decided to protect his kingdom. Because besides being 'evil', he was simply living in a world where he thought what he was doing was right. He's simply a failed hero. He lost his family and wanted to save everyone else.

  • May 10, 2007, 6:29 p.m. CST

    The Rock should play Christian Walker in POWERS.

    by Mosquito March

    It would be more interesting to see someone like him play somebody who USED to be super, but can still kick ass, and I think he could run with Bendis's brand of humor and action.

  • May 10, 2007, 6:54 p.m. CST

    one of Cap's nick names

    by strangernparadis

    was Captain Whitebread. granted it was Guy Gardner that used it but still. the Rock IS Black Adam!

  • May 10, 2007, 6:58 p.m. CST

    see what i mean?

    by jedimindflayer

    this will be a firestorm; purists (ie grogan) vs. rock fans (ie everyone else)= don't touch it with a 10' pole. this is a no-win; dwayne is far and away talented enough and charismatic enough to pull off a superhero role, but he takes marvel (for example) and people scream about purity in art vs. equal opportunity (the man SHOULD take whatever role he wants); he takes adam, and other people scream about stereotyping and profiling.

  • May 10, 2007, 7:03 p.m. CST

    the kid: Freddie Highmore

    by pipergates

    i know he's english but he's the best boy actor i know about. He has a fantastic range.

  • May 10, 2007, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Rosa Parks 2.0

    by strangernparadis

    staring Lindsay Lohan

  • May 10, 2007, 7:20 p.m. CST

    captain marvel

    by Lt. Kaffee

    kicks ass! i only wish mike allred would do a series starring him for DC.

  • May 10, 2007, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Would be better than Spiderman 3

    by Spidey3SUCKED

    Which sucked rhino balls. I'm sure it was already asked, but what the fuck happened to SpyHunter? there's a video game with the Rock's face, but no movie. And yeah, what the fuck happened to Southland tales.

  • May 10, 2007, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Go get the Rock a cheeseburger

    by proper

    The most meaningful thing The Rock has done lately was a promo from his kitchen before Wrestlemania,showed up everybody else,that throne can be taken back anytime,and not for fighting Cena,Kennedy or Umaga either,Rock Vs HBK is a worthy match.Team up The Rock & Tony Jaa.I'd watch that.What happened To Rock Vs Predator?.Chris Rock & The Rock as cops(Double the Rock,Double the action).The Rock needs to start acting like The Rock.

  • May 10, 2007, 8:26 p.m. CST

    I'll say again, The Rock should play Ash in Evil Dead

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    if it gets remade. He would be the only guy to play Ash if they do a reboot without Bruce. While I would love nothing more then to see another Evil Dead movie with Bruce, if they are going to go forth with a remake and new Ash The Rock would be the only one I could see being able to pull off that role.

  • May 10, 2007, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Am I wrong?

    by Sparhawk38

    Billy doesn't stay "Billy" when he turns into Captain Marvel, does he? I may be reading it wrong, but it sounded like they might play it that it is a kid in an adults body. That doesn't fit the Captain Marvel i read as a kid. Now "Prime" was a comic based on that concept. Help me out...

  • May 10, 2007, 10:48 p.m. CST

    another comic movie taking shape nicely...

    by pipergates

    is WANTED, if the movie looks half as cool as the comic it should be a killer.Potentialy as good as the first Matrix i say :"Common has signed to join James McAvoy, Morgan Freeman and Angelina Jolie in Wanted for Universal Pictures. Wanted, based on Mark Millar's graphic novel, centers on a white-collar worker (McAvoy) who discovers he is the son of the most evil supervillain on Earth. When his father is assassinated, he inherits the dead man's powers and begins life among the other supervillains (Freeman, Jolie and Common) who secretly control the planet. Common will play the Gunsmith, an assassin with an unparalleled knowledge of firearms who is enlisted to help train and transform McAvoy's character into the world's most feared and powerful hit man. Timur Bekmambetov is directing from a script by Michael Brandt and Derek Haas. Marc Platt, Jim Lemley and Jason Netter are producing"

  • May 10, 2007, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Should be animated

    by Punch Man

    Brad Bird.

  • May 11, 2007, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Chrth

    by Vern

    No blasphemy intended. I agree with you. I don't think The Rock could ever match THEY LIVE, but if he started picking his roles better I do believe he could POTENTIALLY end up having a better body of work overall than Roddy. But not yet.

  • May 11, 2007, 3:31 a.m. CST

    Billy Batson: Joseph

    by a rolling stone

    Billy Batson: Joseph Gordon-Levitt (3rd Rock), Captain Marvel: Patrick Wharburton (The Tick), The Wizard Shazam: Ian McKellen (X-Men), Thaddeus Sivana: Rhys Ifans (The Replacements), Black Adam: The Rock (Duh), Mary Marvel: Evangeline Lilly (Lost), Freddy Freeman: Tom Welling (Smallville)

  • May 11, 2007, 3:32 a.m. CST

    Seriously fellas, the auteur theory works

    by Vern

    The French came up with this for a reason. You gotta stop getting your hopes up for some of these comic book movies if the director is a hack. If it's somebody like Brian Singer or Chris Nolan who made a movie you liked before, then you can get your hopes up. If it's the fucking GRUMPY OLD MEN guy (GHOST RIDER) the PINK PANTHER REMAKE guy (he's doing THE FLASH I believe) or the guy whose best movie is god damn TOMMY BOY twelve years ago (this one) then forget about it.<p> Come to think of it, aren't the FANTASTIC FOUR movies from the guy who did the American version of TAXI? That's what they do now, they get some guy who has only done shitty comedies, they give him millions of dollars and some rubber suits and it turns into money for corporations but that doesn't mean you people have to take part in it. You're better than that. Leave these fuckers in the dust and move on with your lives. You shouldn't put yourself through all that emotional turmoil of pretending there's some chance the movie won't be moronic garbage.

  • May 11, 2007, 4:05 a.m. CST

    Clive Owen for Black Adam

    by chien_sale

    He looks exactly like him. Not the current BA with the Namor ears but the original one. In the Jerry Ordway "Power of Shazam" series, Adam looks exactly like a film noir classic bad guy with a sinister face. Physically big but not a body builder. Another good choice for Black Adam would be Nick Cage.

  • May 11, 2007, 4:26 a.m. CST

    Xiphos

    by Vern

    I just meant there was reason to have hopes, because people liked his earlier movies. But in a case like this I just think it would be better for everybody's mental health to just assume it's not worth watching until proven otherwise.

  • May 11, 2007, 7:41 a.m. CST

    No no no no no no no no no no no no no

    by grendel69

    NO damn Rock for Shazam. That idea completelt bloews. It sucks!UGH!

  • May 11, 2007, 7:41 a.m. CST

    No no no no no no no no no no no no no

    by grendel69

    NO damn Rock for Shazam. That idea blows. It sucks!UGH!

  • May 11, 2007, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Anyone know who Cap was originally based on?

    by Damned if I can login

    Fred MacMurray! <Hey Sledge...thanks for the tip, man.>

  • May 11, 2007, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Frag it all!

    by Damned if I can login

    Still tryin' to figure out this paragraph thing. <p>And no kiddin' about MacMurray...read it in one'a those oversized comics.

  • May 11, 2007, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Rock=NOT Davey Johnstone OR Cap

    by Mutant Leader

    Grendel69 is right. This is a terrible idea IMO.

  • May 11, 2007, 8:11 a.m. CST

    vern

    by jedimindflayer

    actually, it appears that the studios look for turns; that is, they want the least possible amount of funds in to maximize the funds out (back to them). also, these hack comedy directors not only come cheap, but they will usually kowtow to studio whim; no bucking the system when they can drop you, and bring in another just like ya... just look at the carosel of directers warner had for supes prior to singer.

  • May 11, 2007, 8:53 a.m. CST

    The Rock

    by Redmantle

    is awesome. I was home sick one day and saw the Rundown, something I never would have bothered with, and it was funny as hell. Yeah, but give him Black Adam, or Christian Walker. Not Captain Marvel. Later

  • May 11, 2007, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Directors should be gifted artists with vision, passion

    by JDanielP

    And the Rock should learn from Arnold's career. Sure, Rock should take part in a Captain Marvel flick. But he better make ***damn sure*** that the director is talented and/or proven. When it comes to choosing a director, studios should take more chances with people with talent, even if unproven in the film world. An artist is an artist, ...and he/she couldn't be any less behind the camera. How can you do much worse than having a passionate, gifted artist running the show? You know? And I equate this "CAPTAIN MARVEL" project (the studio will likely call it "SHAZAM") with the live-action Jetsons flick, which has yet to get off the ground (so-to-speak, pun intended). This project and "THE JETSONS" could both be as great as any of the Pixar computer animated movies, yet with live action. If they want to raise the bar and get a huge return on their investment, then they should NOT be satisfied with anything less than a script worthy of Pixar. That, and having a huge talent behind the camera, proven or not.

  • May 11, 2007, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Learn from Cameron's "T2". Rock CAN dwarf Black Adam.

    by JDanielP

    What I'm saying is, ...is that the Rock can look far more physically imposing while the villain may be more powerful. I only want results.

  • May 11, 2007, 9:47 a.m. CST

    The Rock can be Captain Marvel!

    by Boris Baddenov

    Let's just see if Hollywood can get a great choice for Black Adam; I'd say use a European actor with a malevolent sneer, a flat-topped black widow's peak, and a sinewy athletic physique. Any ideas there, people?

  • May 11, 2007, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Oded Fehr...

    by GOB Adama

    ...As Black Adam

  • May 11, 2007, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Shazam/Captain Marvel can't even get a

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    comic book fanboy following. I think they tried to bring him back in a regular series or mini series a few years ago and it didn't take? Howard the Duck aside, why would any studio put money into a movie on a D-list character.

  • May 11, 2007, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Reagrding race...

    by GOB Adama

    Now keep in mind I am setting purism aside for the sake of debate. I understand and respect purism, but don't think it is holy writ. <p>A number of characters are intended to be a certain ethnicity or work best if they were a specific ethnicity... While others simply 'defaulted' to white due to social conventions. <p>John Shaft is black, as is T'Challa or Ororo Munro... <p>Bruce Wayne's family history keeps him white, really. However, given the circus tradition, could Dick Greyson not be part-asian? <p>Superman could be black or physically similar to Earth hispanics. He's an alien. Nothing about him requires he be white. <p>Given that a modern-set Captain Marvel flick would have Billy born in the 90s, he could be ANY damn race or mix thereof that could reasonably have the last name Batson.

  • May 11, 2007, 11:56 a.m. CST

    "Gridiron Gand and Doom completely watchable"...

    by Kid Z

    ... (chortle!) What? was that on the parallel world where everything bad is considered good. You know, Earth-Suck!

  • May 11, 2007, 2:21 p.m. CST

    People are STUPID...

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    "Superman could be black or physically similar to Earth hispanics. He's an alien. Nothing about him requires he be white." Uh... sure. Nothing except 80 YEARS of comicbook, movie and television HISTORY AND CONTINUITY! Why not also make him GAY and dating Jimmy Olsen? Yeah! Then we can have Bryan Singer and Joel Schumacher slap-fight over who gets to bring this NEW dynamic duo to cinematic life! ... sheer idiocy. >:( That said, The Rock should play Black Adam, NOT Captain Marvel. He's got the definitive look and would make a MUCH more charismatic villian than goody-two-shoes Marvel.

  • May 11, 2007, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Captain Marvel isn't a big name star due to DC...

    by Err

    Originally, Captain Marvel drew too many comparisons to Superman, so DC sued Cap's original comic company. Acquiring the rights to Cap, DC has tried to resurrect him numerous times unsuccessfully. If they hadn't sued in the first place, he wouldn't be in the predicament he's in.

  • May 11, 2007, 2:32 p.m. CST

    And yes, I know...

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    Dean Cain was part Asian. The point is, he didn't LOOK obviously Asian, so it wasn't an issue or a distraction to the worldwide perception of the character. No one knew who the Kingpin outside of the tiny comicbook crowd, so he could be played by a black man on film, and 99% of the movie-going public won't notice or even care. Universally-known characters like Superman, Sherlock Holmes and Tarzan have much LESS leeway in how they're screwed with. Change such basic aspects of the characters like race or sexuality, and they stop BEING the characters in the eyes of the general public and fall into the realm of parody.

  • May 11, 2007, 3:38 p.m. CST

    TheGhostWhoLurks

    by GOB Adama

    Did you mis my disclaimer regarding purism? <p>And making him gay is not the same as changing his skin color.

  • May 11, 2007, 3:56 p.m. CST

    I suppose what I am saying about race is...

    by GOB Adama

    Pigmentation is not a personality trait. It does not dictate who you are, only how those of limited scope react to you (yes, that's a dig). <p>The Wayne family have a long history in Gotham that would not be believable from a non-white family. He stays white. <p>Superman is an alien, but his human side is that of a Kansas farmboy and to many the ultimate symbol of America's good-natured desire to safe-guard the world benevolently. That no longer REQUIRES a white guy. <p>And as I said above there IS tradition and purism, and I respect that. DC should not retro-color their people. But there is room for taking a new look at an old character, provided it is done skillfully. <p>I'm not advocating anything so drastic, as a black Lex Luthor. But if Denzel wanted to shave his head and play him, I'd be excited to see his take. <p>These are FICTIONAL characters and we should be open to the freedoms that come with that. <p>And finally, I am normally as kind as I can be on talkbacks, as those who have become used to seeing my name can tell you. But lumping sexual orientation and race together is FUCKING STUPID. They are distinct traits of humanity. Stop divinding America into "straight and white" and "other", you idiots!

  • May 11, 2007, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Not bad as Black Adam..I'd believe it!

    by avenger147

    GO ROCK GO!!

  • May 11, 2007, 5:18 p.m. CST

    GOB Adama

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    "Did you mis my disclaimer regarding purism?" Yep, I saw it. But that STILL doesn't mean the idea of making Superman black isn't stupid. Once you do that, he's not Superman anymore... he's Icon. And you'd have to change all of Superman's experiences since landing on Earth to those of a Black person, unless you believe that blacks and whites have the exact same experiences living and growing up in Western society... which they DON'T. So, yeah: the character everyone knows as "Superman" DOES require that he be white, or it's simply another character, NOT Clark Kent. "And making him gay is not the same as changing his skin color." You're right.. it's not. But with today's stupidly politically correct, all-races/beliefs/sexualities-are-the-same-and -interchangable mentality that's infiltrated much of our society and culture, making Superman gay and hooking him up with Jimmy Olsen is, sadly, all too possible and, frankly, wouldn't surpise me in the least. And BTW... how DO you make spaces inbetween your paragraphs in your Talkback replies???

  • May 11, 2007, 8:56 p.m. CST

    TheGhostWhoLurks

    by GOB Adama

    I think we are in the sort of territory where our viewpoints are so seperate that we are actually unable to understand one another completly. <p>In a nutshell, I am not exactly advocating drastic changes, simply open to them should they arise and am not offended or 'up in arms' about it. <p>Back on topic, I absolutely do not believe that The Rock's mixed ethnicity disqualifies him from the role of Captain Marvel any more than Dean Cain's did as Superman or Brandon Lee's did as The Crow. You will also notice, however, that I cited Wharburton as my favorite physical match, with Brendan Frasia cited as my second choice. I am simply accepting the Rock as a fine alternate choice and one who could generate excitement (and funds) for a project that will need both to succeed. <p>I do not, myself, think our oppositional POVs are issues of right or wrong. Just different. <p>As a peace offering I'll tell you the secret of the spaces. <p>'less than sign' p then 'greater than sign'.

  • May 11, 2007, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Let's see if it works!

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    Patrick Warburton would be fine for Captain Marvel, but Brandan Frasier? Not so sure.<p>If they ever DO make another Superman movie, though, the PERFECT Lex Luthor would have to be Billy Zane... the guy oozes swarmy menace!

  • May 11, 2007, 9:40 p.m. CST

    WooHoo!

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    THANKS<p>GOB<p>ADAMA!<p>:)

  • May 11, 2007, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Patrick Warburton For Captain Marvel

    by Barron34

    A SHAZAM! movie should be a mix of action and comedy. BIG with a cape is sort of a good description. I think The Rock would make a good Black Adam, but he just does not seem like a good match to play Marvel for some reason. Warburton looks dead-on like the character, and can play both goofy and heroic/idealistic. I'm not sure that there are any fans that are just burning to see a SHAZAM! movie, but I expect that an entertaining flick and a hit could be made if it is done right.

  • May 12, 2007, 12:02 a.m. CST

    Also

    by Barron34

    I think that Brendon Fraser would have made a good Clark Kent/Superman. I know many people were put off by this casting idea, but I would suggest watching Fraser as the do-gooder CIA agent in THE QUIET AMERICAN. I could go into some detail explaining why, but I just think that he could play the genuine heroics and idealisim of Kent/Superman, and also play the fake, mild-mannered front that Kal-El puts up as Clark Kent. If you haven't seen his performance in THE QUIET AMERICAN, I would urge you to see it and judge. I think that they should have made an accessible SUPERMAN movie with a retro-fourties vibe that didn't contradict the Donner films, but that was less of an imitation of it than Singer's version was. Also, they needed to cast an older and stronger actress for Lois Lane than Bosworth. I would have suggested someone like Neve Campbell. The sub-plot with Lois having a kid should have been dumped, obviously. And Supes needs to be in a real fight, not just saving people and lifting stuff, of course.

  • May 12, 2007, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Warburton Warburton Warburton!!!

    by ZeroCorpse

    This role is made for Patrick Warburton, and the guy is FUNNY. He's the best part of Venture Bros., and he just LOOKS like the big red cheese. The trick is getting a kid that looks like a 12-year-old Patrick Warburton! <p> I would buy the Rock as Black Adam. No problem. It's a skin thing, yes, but it's also that Warburton has the EYES for Captain Marvel, and the CHIN. He would be perfect, while The Rock would only be close.

  • May 12, 2007, 12:01 p.m. CST

    If any character wasn't meant to be dark and gritty

    by Orbots Commander

    it's Captain Marvel. Grim and dark is Batman. THE DARK KNIGHT flick will have that in spades. SHAZAM! should be a light and frothy action-comedy. It should have more in common with the first PIRATES OF THE CARRIBEAN and even with the glossy and lightweight touch of dare I say it, MY BEST FRIEND'S WEDDING, which I caught on cable the other night (pretty good little flick, as far as that genre goes). The analogy of BIG with a cape is spot on. In fact, the dream director for SHAZAM would have been Robert Zemeckis with a dream script by William Goldman (who I understand DID actually write a draft of SHAZAM).

  • May 12, 2007, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Oh, and as for the Rock/Johnson,

    by Orbots Commander

    although I'm not a follower or huge fan, it's obvious the guys has an amount of acting talent of loads of big screen charisma. Why he's taking scripts for WALKING TALL and DOOM, I'll never know. Dude, those types of action flicks went out with Ronald Reagan, Members Only jackets and glam heavy metal. He'd be great in more ambitious action movies, like something based on a Tom Clancy techno-thriller or a movie which stretches its genre like CASINO ROYALE, SPIDER-MAN 2 (notice I didn't say SM1 or SM3), and again the first POTC.

  • May 12, 2007, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Bruce Willis to play The Rock in biopic

    by Jubba

    Perfect match.

  • May 12, 2007, 2:13 p.m. CST

    nah

    by CaptGrogan

    Been thinking about it and ... nah... It's be like making Blade 4 with Drew Carey in the title role. It just doesnt work. Blade is a black man. Conceived, intended and designed from that viewpoint. Cap is as he was intended, white. This movie should NOT be a comedy. This is a chance at revivng what, at one time, was a fairly serious character. Yes, he went through his goofy Mr. Mind/ Tawny the talking Tiger (yes really) phase. But since the 1970's or so (right after the live action show was canceled) - the comic take has been somewhat serious. Read KINGDOM COME and tell me Cap is a comedy. As for the whole lawsuit thing - Fawcett comics WON that suit intially - then on appeal, DC got grounds for a re-trial, and the two parties settled the case. then THIRTY years later, Fawcett liscensed the characters to DC. God I know entirely too much about this..

  • May 12, 2007, 3:36 p.m. CST

    The Rock in PUMA MAN!

    by screamster101

    I just know this will come about. Watch and see.

  • May 12, 2007, 4:39 p.m. CST

    OK with Rock or Warburton, Rock could play either part.

    by JDanielP

    Just wanted to be clear that I'm happy with either person as the title character, but I can't see Brendon Fraser being right for any of these roles, including Superman. However, I would be concerned with Warburton's age in such a role. How old is he? (I should have check at www.IMDB.com)

  • May 12, 2007, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Vern's Outre Theory

    by Napoleon Park

    I guess the Auteur Theory (unable to pronounce Fancis I will call it the Outer Theory) says that the director is the most important factor in determining a films quality. Assuming the studio doesn't step in and screw with the product, in which case wait for the directors cut. <p> "So unless a film is from someone with a proven track record for making at least one good comic book or super-hero movie, don't get your hopes up." (In spite of the quote marks I'm actually paraphrasing, but I hope not misrepresenting, Vern's theory.) <p> Well, allrighty, but you see... My personal criteria for defining a good comic book movie is one that is faithful to the original source material. Which is to say, takes key plot elements from published comics, Does not change the key characters costumes, names, Modus Operandi, motivations, origin or personality. Does not deviate from what the character would or possibly could do in the comics. And that has NEVER been done 100%. NO one fits that description. It's like saying No One can make a good superhero movie because no one ever has. <p> Still, it's as good a rule as any. Having a property written by the best comic book writer in the world doesn't help. (see any Alan Moore inspired film project). Having an enthusiastic comics geek to write and direct doesn't help (witness - or don't - Kevin Smith's "Green Hornet" non-starter.) The first TMNT flick came close, but that was schizo; closely based on two conflicting versions of the property, with elements of both the B&W comic and the animated series. <p> But Vern, why the "Give up,. guys" Fageddaboudit attitude? It's fun to speculate that with the right casting a genre film might turn out good. That's at least partially what AICN is about, or so I mistakenly thought. <p> That out of the way, Warner's should spend however much it takes to fuck Marvel Comics army of lawyers and get to call this film Captain Marvel and not Shazzman or Shaz-bot. The story's not about the wizard. That would be like calling Star Wars "Obi-Wan". (Although I'm flexi on that point: The Wizard Of Oz isn't really about the Wizard either.) <p> I stand by my speculative dream cast reposted above, with thanx to Ando the Poozer for the Warburton as Marvel nomination. But I see NO reason why Dwight Johnson couldn't play Captain Marvel. (Comics/sci-fi geekdom and racism may not, unfortunately, be mutually exclusive. but anyone wanting to see a film with an all caucasian cast where the good guys wear white robes, they should just watch Star Wars over and over again obsessively. Oh, wait, they already do.)

  • May 12, 2007, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Patrick Warburton is 42, so get this pic movin'.

    by JDanielP

    Warburton AND Rock?! Sounds cool to me!

  • May 12, 2007, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Hell yeah! A Puma Man reference!

    by rbatty024

    The Rock actually has on screen charisma and seems like a nice guy. Too bad he hasn't been making that many great films. He would have ruled in the eighties. It's like he became famous a decade too late.

  • May 13, 2007, 3:27 a.m. CST

    Ash in Evil Dead?

    by Captain Mal

    The Rock? Sure, maybe. But the best guy for the role? Get the fuck out. Nathan Fillion could nail that role and send it's pregnant ass to purgatory.

  • May 13, 2007, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Where are we gonna find a Polynesian Billy?

    by Davis of Texas

    Won't someone think of the children?

  • May 15, 2007, 4:07 p.m. CST

    More On Marvel

    by Barron34

    This could be a good crossover film that is a superhero movie for both kids and their parents. SHAZAM is just a lighter property than Batman or even the teen angst Spiderman. <> I still think that Warburton would be best for the role. <> Brendan Fraser might be ok as well, but he would make a better Clark Kent, in my opinion.

  • May 15, 2007, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Test

    by Barron34

    <Just trying to use this post to see if the paragraph breaks work.> <I would rather see a serious version of Alan Moore's MIRACLEMAN instead of SHAZAM.>