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Tim Roth’s Abomination To Smash INCREDIBLE HULK!!
I am – Hercules!!
Tim Roth will play the Hulk-ish Abomination opposite Ed Norton’s Bruce Banner and Liv Tyler's Betty Ross.
The funnybook Abomination, introduced by Stan Lee and Gil Kane in 1967's Tales To Astonish #90, was a godless Russian who intentionally exposed himself to twice as much gamma radiation as puny Banner absorbed. He became twice as strong as Hulk and twice as fugly. Also, he couldn't change back to Russky alter ego Emil Blonsky.
Louis Leterrier (the “Transporter” movies) directs from a screenplay by Zak Penn (“Elektra,” “X-Men: The Last Stand”).
Read Variety’s report here.
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I'm first
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This might not suck.
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I like Roth as an actor very much - my only question is how much he will be in the movie since the Abomination doesnot transform back and forth like the Hulk...
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Just a pleasure to watch on screen, and boy is this cast shaping up well. I wasn't even remotely interested before, but with Roth and Norton, I may check it out.
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I don't get the point of recasting. I thought Bana did a good job. Hulk sucked because they had a shitty script and shitty director.
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passed on the Harry Potter movies to be in Planet of the Apes? I'm sure he regrets that decision every day
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Screenplay by the guy who did Electra and X-Men3 and directed by the guy who did those horrible, horrible, horrible looking Transporter movies... and you guys think this is "too cool"? the only good thing is the *actors* mainly Norton and Liv... you nerds have shitty taste =\
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That's like going from steak to bologna. Rancid, poisoned bologna.
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and not just throwing tanks and dodging missles...and you're right silverager, how much will Roth actually be on screen for?
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BONSTER.
Buster+Monster=Bonster. GOB Bluth said it best. -
Love Roth. He's so awesome that he managed to be awesome in The Musketeer, one of the most unawesome movies ever.
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The film ends with a Mexican standoff. Thunderbolt Ross and a mortally wounded Abomination/Roth have guns trained on each other. Hulk/Norton aims his gun at Ross. Betty/Tyler stands in the corner and makes off with the cash after everyone shoots everyone else. Sweet.
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this is looking to be a pretty great cast! i like the choice of Tim Roth, he can certainly play the evil son of a bitch that the abomination needs to be (pre-monster). I just hope they don't rehash the origin again
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We want the Leader!
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Man, the people who wrote Catwoman should jump on board too. This movie just took a turn for the suck.
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this is turning out quite well, scripting and directing wise I'm unsure about. Not saying that Zak Penn CAN'T write a good script, I've just yet to see it. Haven't seen any the Transporter movies they looked like something I wouldn't be interested in.
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his hulk run was one of the best
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But ok. Ever since Rob Roy I have had a healthy respect for him, christ what a villan. Fuck Liv Tyler though. Its like she is perpetually just getting over a cold.
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It doesnt matter who they get to play in this movie. Its going to suck.
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Last Action Hero and Fantastic Four.
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where a tank will jump into a 360 degree flip to unhook the Abomination from beneath.
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Pitof is second unit.
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Maybe it will be 95% fighting. That would be the only hope for this movie.
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that's the only plausible explanation to me.
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That movie was so bad I blocked out the title.
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Can't take that away from the man. Plus he directed the GREAT mockumentary with Werner Herzon, INCIDENT AT LOCH NESS. But yeah, everything else is pretty unimpressive.
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General Theed or the 'Made in Britain'guy Trevor?
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May 09, 2007 2:49:02 PM CDT
Joel Schumacher wants to be in charge of costume design
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Nipples on everything.
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Abomination is pretty much Hulk's nemesis... I have high hopes for this film.
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--to all the bitching about the last Hulk not having enough action. Which is a shame, 'cause that movie did not suck. It could've been a lot better, but it did not suck the way X3 sucked, which this new one might.
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Let's see how the rest of it turns out (And yes, I love Ang Lee's version!)
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over Jennifer Connally, who just doesn't do anything for me. I'd love to look into those gorgeous blue eyes as I finish and my manly nectars are siphoned from me.
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... To see Liv Tyler in nothin' but her undies and way too much eye makeup for the ENTIRE movie!
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So far it seems like both movies had fucking killer casts, doesn't say much about the potential of the flick...
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Cast is good, but so was the cast of the original Hulk. Wish they would have just continued with the same cast, just get a new director, make the Hulk smaller, and give him a good villian to fight. Abomination sounds like a good one. Oh, and have Hulk say "Hulk Smash!!"
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WHY they are hiring one the most skinny guys in the business
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People want action, not some psychological crap. I hope they learned that lesson.
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... what he's letting himself in for. Norton is notorious for doing half his director's work for him. And in this case, that can only be a good thing.
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They need two big powerful guys fighting each other...it could be off the hook if they go crazy enough and have a good budget for the CGI
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We can complain about what went right vs. what went wrong with EVERY adaptation that's out there. "Hulk" did not make a lot of money like "Spider-Man", even though it's a well known character (i.e. the 70s TV show). Hence, a return to fugitive Banner and more "HULK SMASH", rather than the "daddy doesn't love me" stuff (which I enjoyed). Hulk is a tragic character anyway, not a spandex clad superhero. So hopefully, that will come through with this as well. Just end it with Norton walk down the highway with his thumb out and cue the old TV show music. People will cry.
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But I'll watch him in anything. Bring it on.
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a decent sequel/reboot!!! Oh, and Hulk better friggin DANCE!!!!
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Somebody was bound to ask.
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to write off a movie straight around these parts?
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Yeah! Finally.
Not sure what level of acting Roth will bring to the role...I mean, once he's changed it's mostly voice acting right?
Abomination is a CGI dream...no other way to make that monster come to life on screen.
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YES! Now Hulk actually has something to fight that is more powerful then him...I am looking at you Hulk 1 and Superman Returns.
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If I had 'written' Electra and X-men 3 I would change my name. So we get a B-movie director and a writer that is a proven franchise killer. The only green this movie is going to make is if the Abomination and Hulk get it on.
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I just had an orgasm.
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I hope so.
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But the rest of this guy's IMDB resumé does not fill me with confidence. Still, let's not forget that the same guy who wrote Batman & Robin and Lost in Space went on to write A Beautiful Mind, so even a hack writer can have one good one in him somewhere.
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Abomination is the easiest boss in that game. Wouldn't it be amazing if the film lasted only 15 minutes and there was a happy ending and no sad Hulk, just Hulk beating on Abomination for 14 minutes and Liv Tyler doing a 1 minute lapdance. Or the other way around.
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Can't have a good movie without a good villain--plus they're using real talent this time! "You're not gonna die! Say the fucking words!"
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That is all.
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couldn't be worse than the last one
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Is that what those are? A snaffu on a comic cover? Cool.
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I mean he's so good with that kind of despiccable characters...I have great hopes for this movie, the director is so good at inspired ultrakinetic action...The possiblitiies of Hulk in extreme mode has me drooling. Even better if he has somebody worthile to go against. Just stay dead hulk-poodle.
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This movie may actually work
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it is sounding better than the villain in ang lees, eventhough i enjoyed his version of hulk for the most part. The Cg is what killed it for me, if it couldve been done more realisticly it wouldve kicked. No more hulk dogs please.
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crispin glover shouldve been joker
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X3 was a monotonous, plotless mess if I ever saw one. And of course I'll still pay for any other X-Men-universe flick they do because I is a tool. Anyway I'm...hesitant about this project because 1. X3 writer (*puke* what a mess! The last two-thirds were all fighting and Dark Phoenix could've/should've been the whole movie!) 2. Louis Leterrier who hasn't exactly proven himself of cinematic artistry, i.e. Brett Ratner #2. I'd rather have a movie take artistic risks and totally miss the mark like The Hulk than the blandness of X3. Comic book movies should be anything but bland.
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Don't let him do this shit !!!!
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As bad as the first one was, the news from this project keeps getting better and better. When it was first announced, I expected Bill Bixby to be dug up and painted green.
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Would you like to work with a real psycho ... i mean joker or someone who play the character??
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Preach it! Comic book movies don't have to just be action movies, Ang Lee's Hulk was a bold, fascinating movie that was ultimately flawed, but definitely worth watching. X3... was, well, crap.
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I think Louis Leterrier did a good job with Unleashed, that was a badass Jet li movie.
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it was boring and don't deny that.
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!!!!!!!!!!
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yea id want a real psycho playing joker, which Crispin has proven he can be. They were close to getting him , i dont see why they changed their minds. Hes got the perfect look for it to top it off.
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Ed Norton is re-writing the script ala American History X
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lee's hulk i agree was a little slow paced and might bore you especially trying to rewatch it. but it did take alot of risks-it was better compared to x3, the only xmen movie good to me was part 2 part one was cut way too short. but even part 2 was a little bland.
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have they said what size hulk will be and if itll be all conventional effects or cgi, or both?
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I liked that movie. The sequel too. I'm up for a new Hulk movie, which I thought was a solid outing. Not great, not horrible - just solid. Two and a half stars by my score. I'm looking forward to him fighting a supervillian. Now, if they could just get Superman to fight one....
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I actually agree with you. The final part with Absorbing man didn't work at all. Whenever I watch the movie, I stop the movie in the middle of the street with Bruce hugging Betty. Makes it much better.
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transporter kicked ass, part 2 took it a lil too far, but it was alright.
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"You. Cannot. Defeat. Me." Most bad ass representation of the devil, ever.
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Elektra and X-Men 3 sucked - I hope the guy doesn't mess up this one too...
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you are a bitch
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!!!!!!!
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...a Wendigo story featuring Wolverine?
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I pretty much like it when the Hulk is the strongest character, and he is his own worst enemy, but I'm open to it. On a nemesis tilt, I always liked the other green guy with the huge elongated noggin.
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Norton is notorious for being a very vocal participant and you can be sure he's already giving Letterier 'notes' and putting his own opinions across - I can't imagine Norton will let this be shit and it's great to see Roth in a big movie again (hopefully once Youth Without Youth is released and this hits the screen, he'll be back in contention again)
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He's pissed.
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and you know its true !
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without Kirsten Dunst.
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He said Fuck all of you. He's getting paid more money to write a shitty screenplay than the most of you will make in 5 years. He's kind of a douchebag.
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He says he will stop at nothing to ruin all of the Marvel film franchises.
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She's willing to jello wrestle Liv Tyler for the Betty Ross role.
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aka Abomination. AKA Abominable Snowbeast.
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aka Abomination. AKA Abominable Snowbeast.
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Zak Penn writes horribly cheesy dialogue (Fantastic Four anyone?) but their are often cool ideas in there. The Transporter had great action but were mostly dumb. Louis Leterrier seems like a good action director with something to prove. It could work for HULK because at this point we want ANYTHING but a serious Hulk. It didn't work for X-men but it work for the HULK. The cast is great. Love Tim Roth, Ed Norton, and Liv Tyler, and she is much hotter than Jennifer Connelly's hairy eyebrows.
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It can't suck as much as Spider-man 3 did. Roth is awesome, doesn't work nearly enough. I was thinking about him in Rob Roy today, for some reason. He plays an asshole perfectly.
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I have different problems with Spider-Man 3 than most, evidently. In fact, I have the same problem with Spider-Man 3 that I have with nearly all comic movies.THE FUCKING EGOS OF THE ACTORS INVOLVED.How much screen time did Spider-Man spend actually wearing an intact mask, sans tears? 3, perhaps 4 minutes?Many of you have much to bitch about with FF1. One of my gripes was how Doom turned Chiklis back to pink for no other apparent reason other than to put his face onscreen for movie goers to remember what he looks like.I thought Ghost Rider was pretty damn faithful to the comics. But toward the end, Cage was lighting up his head left and right like a Bic lighter, right down to the end where his only his face is in the sunlight, while the rest is all Ghost Ridery. Ridiculous.Ever play the Daredevil drinking game? When someone other than Matt takes his mask off, you drink. When Matt himself takes his own mask off, you drink twice. Why? Because he willingly unmasked that sparingly by comparison, which was already frequent enough! You'll be blitzed long before the showdown with Kingpin.Lastly, Topher Grace, Topher FUCKING Grace, as in, "Who the hell is Topher FUCKING Grace?!" Yeah, that guy. Even that no-name gave more head than Venom.Tim Roth as Emil Blonsky is NOT good news. I have two predictions, one of which will doubtless come true: 1) We won't see any Abomination at all until the last minutes of the final reel, or 2) He will change back and forth ala the video game Ultimate Destruction, which means the character will hardly represent his pulpy roots.I was intrigued by the casting of Norton, since Hulk is one of few characters you can play the "See? IT's me, ME!! playing the hero, you little audience people!!" game. But Roth as Abomination is bad news. His ego won't give the character enough time to shine on its own, similar to the Creel, Zzzax, Glob hybrid from Ang Lee's flick.
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And I was looking forward to this. Can this guy write a good script? Let's hope he has at elast one good one in him and this one is it.
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...why the Hulk doesn't have any arm, leg, armpit, chest or back hair? Does puny Banner shave all over? Ron Jeremy should be The Hulk. Wasn't Tim Roth the bellboy in Four Rooms? He's the Abdominizer?
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"I love you, Abomination."
"I love you, Honey-bunny.
Alright, everybody be cool this is an Abomination"...*SMASH!!!*
cue the now way over-used Dick Dale surf music... also to feature an appearance by Travolta's Pulp hair piece. -
Abomination = Venom = Doomsday.
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Abomination was one of the first, "Look! I'm just like the hero only I'm eeeBUL!!" type characters, predated by only Bizarro, Sinestro, and Black Adam. Perhaps a few others I forget, but they're few.More importantly, Abomination distanced himself from being a carboncopy Hulk; an anti-version of the hero by introducing the twice as powerful, unchanging, all mindless (vs. Hulk's semi-mindless) tenets of the character. Scroll up and you'll see my post about my concerns here. Can't help but think they'll 'reimagine' a character that need not be reimagined.
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a KBG agent. Will he be Banner's next door neighbor? His postman? His dentist? Betty's current boyfriend? The Abomination looks like the Hulk. That is a lot of green. If you're going to go green, go all the way: FING FANG FOOM!!!!
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I'd rather see a noble failure (though I'm not convinced Hulk was - I thought some of it was pretty brilliant. Not the Hulk dogs, of course) than the "throw darts at a board of plot points and characters" shit fest that was X3. I still think X-Men would work better as a tv series than films. But what do I know. I'm probably the only person here that really liked Superman Returns.
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theme becoming redundant after Spider-Man 3 which has the anti-Spider-Man twice - Parker and Brock. Choose something else to say thematically. And after the Hulk Dogs I am gammaed out. Choose something non-gamma for him to face, please!
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Roth will play, that is. He'll have heard of Banner's works and will try to recreate the events, only in attempt to correct the involuntary change back, yet this will lead to him being disfigured. Or, he'll be a former understudy or lab partner, someone who was picked over in the bidding process, etc., thus giving him the 'hatred motive'. Ugh. So very fucking cliche. At this point, I'm more inclined toward happenstance plot convenience, ala Brock in the church.
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...as gammarific as the source material. It spares you from having to explain origins twice. Besides, most of Hulk's rogue's gallery stems from gamma irradiation. Honestly, I don't have a problem with this.Now, you could divert from this, by having the Leader (another gamma spawn, I grant you) invent stuff for Hulk to fight, or the Hulkbusters themselves. But even if you went with the latter, you should still throw Samson in there to act as Shield's conscience.
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I have no hope for this.
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War and just make him a KGB agent like he was originally.
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him fight eco-terrorists like poor people trying to make a living?
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Really. I think the darker shade, pointed ears, bulbous chin, bulbous scalp, slitted cat-eyes, three fingered hands, three toed feet, and scaly plate set him off quite a bit. But let's compare...Venom looks like a musclebound Spidey with a Kiss fetish.Bizarro looks like Supes with eczema and a logo spelled by a 2nd grader.Black Adam looks like Captain Marvel with a black outfit and Soul Glo hairstyle.Not quite seeing the 'looks too much like' angle here.
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Edward Norton repeats what he's done in the past, remain a control freak and go behind the director's and writer's backs and make the movie his way. Hey, if The Illusionist and American History X is any indication of Norton's behind the scenes talents, then this has a slight shot of being good.
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Call this new string of Hulk movies "Incredible Hulk", and let Lee, Bana & Connelly keep doin their thing with "Hulk"? Huh? Sound okay? Yeah? Cause frankly... I wanna see 'em both.
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The casting looks great for this one (and I don't mind Zak Penn as a writer) but I still have to get the taste of The Transporter out of my mouth. Its seriously in my top 5 worst movies ever. Movies that dumb should never take themselves so seriously....
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then in the last 10 minutes, turn into Abomination for the final fight. and everyone will come here and say "too venomy!" and that phrase will finally have a true definition
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imho. a aerosmith video for hulk would be unique with steven tyler facing down the hulk makes me think of the teacher at the end of My Science Project movie ("It's funky... high")
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This cast is wayy better then it should be.Tim roth now in this makes it officially a must see...with a hard on going in.
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Not because Roth is a bad actor, he's anything but (usually), but because anytime that Roth gets into one of these big budget popcorn movies he starts hamming it up like all fuck. Remember Planet Of The Apes and Rob Roy? Makes me nervous he'll do exactly the same thing here, especially under a director who's not exactly known for his dramatic skills in bringing the best out of actors...Personally I would have gone with someone like William Fichtner
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already 2 favourite actors lined up for major roles. I wish Biel had woman lead, but what the hell i can deal with Tyler. I wish Letterrier lives up to the cast
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Great cast so far. And wasted if they don't make Hulk the grey/smart character. This way we can have Ed Norton and Tim Roth wisecracking each other whilst their CGI counterparts are beating the crap out of each other.
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HULK SNEEZE!
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That's a horrible thing to say. Just because he's circumsized...
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Yes, Tim is fugly as sin. As for him passing up Snape, I have to say he looked better as the monkey. I can't wait to see what he looks like as this monster...
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....he's hoping his agent can get him as the lead for Hulk 3.
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Either leterier or Pen will get fired. Then Norton basically will direct the filmself. Norton Is a control freak.
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This is looking to be one great project. Oh, and fuck IRON MAN.
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Archie Cunningham remains Roth's finest hour. Sample quote: "It has been years since I buggered a boy your Grace. And in my defence I thought him a girl upon the moment of entry" Charming.
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...in fact, he's actually done some pretty good work!
And he didn't write Fantastic Four...he only contributed dialogue to the VIDEO GAME...not the movie itself.
Yeah, he wrote Last Action Hero (which I think is unfairly maligned) and Elektra...but he also wrote X Men 2 AND he wrote and directed the wonderful Werner Herzog mockumentary Incident at Loch Ness...and if you haven't seen it, rush out and do so...its a lot fo fun and Herzog is a riot. Think Curb Your Enthusiasm meets Spinal Tap...with about 5 minutes of material that doesn't really work. That isn't much for a 95 minute movie, and the rest of it is great.
So cut Zak Penn a break. He's never really gotten the chance to show us what he's capable of (most of his screenplays are co-written), and the fact that he thinks highly enough of Werner Herzog to create an entire project around him proves he's about more than getting laid and scoring bank (a la Brett Ratner).
I for one hope this is the project that elevates Penn to the big time. But if it doesn't, I'll still be there for the next film he directs...why wouldn't I? Herzog's in it!!
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Hulk isn't afraid of Reservoir Dog! Hulk is the strongest one there is! Hulk will smash puny Reservoir Dog with rolled up newspaper and rub his nose in poo!Puny talkbackers try to trick Hulk. Tell Hulk that Mr. Orange is playing Big Ears. Big Ears isn't orange. Big Ears is green. Hulk is too smart for puny talkbackers.Hulk thinks that Hulk and Big Ears should team up against Shiney Board Man, who has movie coming out. Hulk has fought Shiney Board Man, and was in team with him. Big Ears fought Shiney Board Man in Shiney Board Man's own comic book, which sucked gamma bombs.And finally, Hulk wishes puny talkbackers would shut up about Liv Tyler Betty and Jennifer Connelly Betty. Like puny talkbackers would have a shot at either Betty...
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...First Hulk dogs. Now Reservoir Dogs. Hulk is more a cat person.
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Maybe they could put Venom in this...
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The 70's TV show was horrible and the last film was a mess. Someone please do the big guy justice.
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Okay, if Hulk can get a sequel surely Hollywood can cough up the dough to finance an Alpha Flight movie. Canadian superheroes... and one of them is named Sasquatch for Christ's sake! Who wouldn't want to see that shit!?
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please reboot the reboot before its too late.
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Cilian Murphy won't be coming back as the Scarecrow for The Dark Knight. I didn't need him to have a full-on role, but a cameo would've been nice. Just something to remind us the Bat villains aren't getting killed off like every other comic book franchise seems to do.
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He collaborated on both of those screenplays, but he's the only writer (aside from Jack Kirby and Stan Lee) on The Incredible Hulk, so this will be a good indication of his talents. Its important to remember, however, how important the director is on these kinds of movies.
There are different schools of thought as to why X3 was so bad. Some blame ratner, some blame Penn, some blame Fox and Tom Rothman. I'm inclined to blame the first and third parties most heavily...Penn was simply a holdover from the last film, and since that film was easily the best of the X Men series, I don't get why so many people here seem to think Penn's involvement is a harbinger of failure.
Take a look at his screenwriting credits, even films like Behind Enemy Lines and Suspect Zero aren't entirely his work...this guy deserves a real chance after his Herzogumentary, and its obvious he has a lot of passion for comic books.
A good screenplay is essential, but a film like this (and X3) rises and falls on the efforts of the director and the studio that hires him. X3 was a rushed project that disrespected fans and instead tried to end the franchise to make way for lower budget (and thus more profitable) spin-offs. Tom Rothman is a piece of shit, and Brett Ratner deserves to be tarred and feathered for being his go-to gopher. But Zak Penn was on board because, well, he co-wrote X Men 2...don't crucify him for it.
Hey, if Penn's projects turn out bad, I'll be the first to tell it like it is. I just don't think he's shown us what he's capable of, and I think we should at least give him the benefit of the doubt. Whats wrong with that? -
Mr BrokeDicks version. That is all.
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Electro in SM5
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At best. By second tier I mean the one behind the curtain pulling the strings on guys like Abomination and absorbing man.
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..hulk take your puny carrot nose and shove it up your arse..its good...Spiderman 3 good!!!!!
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... that they chose the Abomination as the villain for that new The Hulk motion picture. Why not Waldo?
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