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Massawyrm Can't Wait Another Day To Talk About 28 WEEKS LATER!!
Hola all. Massawyrm here.
Holy crap on a cracker, folks. Hold on to your hat and prepare to get hit by a truck, because I don’t think anyone saw this coming. While many of us have certainly been looking forward to the long awaited sequel to 28 Days Later, I haven’t talked to a single person who really held hope that it was going to be very good. It’s a rare thing when a horror sequel can actually live up to its predecessor, and after a while you begin to lose hope. You begin to lower your expectations. You begin to think there’s no way it can be as good as the previous effort.
And then occasionally, once in a blue moon in fact, a rare effort comes along that is better than the previous film. It not only builds upon what came before it, but improves upon it. And even occasionally does right what the previous film did wrong. And like Dawn of the Dead was to Night of the Living Dead, so too 28 Weeks Later is to 28 Days Later. This is a completely different film. 28 Days Later was a small story. It was a few people running from an outbreak only to run headlong into human nature.
This time, the zombies are gone and people are trying to start over again. They’re going home. Going back to work. Picking up the pieces. And just when everything seems to be going fine, the worst-case scenario happens. And, quite literally, all hell breaks loose. Which, of course, is exactly when this movie goes from being just a solid sequel to being a Holy shit, what the fuck did I just sign up for ass kicking kind of horror film. It’s brutal, it’s bloody and it is sometimes just plain downright mean. There comes this point about halfway through in which it becomes kind of like the film Spartan in which the main characters begin having horrible things happening to them and drop off in unpredictable orders. It broadsides you, leaves you off balance and you begin thinking no one is safe. Not a single character. Which is exactly how a great horror film should be. Especially in a series that borrows so heavily from Romero.
What I’ve come to love about this series is just how it handles its material. There’s no way to see this as anything but derivative – like it was conceived during a fever dream by someone who’d fallen asleep after watching both Romero’s Dawn of the Dead and The Crazies followed up by a handful of viewings of The Omega Man. But while it definitely borrows liberally from all of these, it also melds them so well together that it becomes its very own beast in its own right. I mean, these REALLY aren’t zombies. They certainly aren’t the undead. And they play by neither set of established zombie rules. And while this is an outbreak movie, the real fear isn’t infection – it is getting torn apart and eaten by someone who just 8 seconds ago was your best friend. So in effect, Danny Boyle has created a third strain of zombies – zombies that can be killed like normal people, except that they turn instantly, run faster and only need to puke blood on you to bring you to their side.
And frankly, it’s refreshing to see someone doing something a bit different – especially with zombies. And it also helps that this series goes to excessive lengths to create some new and exciting never-before-seen set pieces. The last act of this film has so many jaw dropping sequences unlike any horror film you’ve ever seen that it’s hard to believe they all came from the same film. Which also serves to enforce just what they did right with this one. Those that have problems with 28 Days Later all tend to complain about the same thing – the last act. Here, rather than being the weakest part of the film, it’s the strongest. Virtually all of the best moments of the film are jam packed into the last 25-30 minutes. And the ending is everything you want from a film like this. Simply incredible.
Director Juan Carlos Fresnadillo (director of the brilliant and criminally under seen Spanish supernatural thriller Intacto) delivers upon all the promise he showed in his previous effort. This movie is a gritty, dirt-under-your-fingernails kind of raw that 28 Days Later grasped at with Digital but this movie accomplishes with much better production values. Not that the money made the difference, but Fresnadillo’s style added a layer of depth to what could have been just drab.
I can’t sing the praises of this film enough. It really and truly is the visceral, unhinged horror film that we all have deeply wished it could be. Highly Recommended for anyone who has ever enjoyed a zombie film, and Required Viewing for anyone who loves either incarnation of Dawn of the Dead. Not Recommended for the timid, the squeamish or anyone who doesn’t feel like they want to get their ass kicked for a paltry $8. Really, the only people who shouldn’t see this film are people who just don’t like horror or gore. This is the film those who were disappointed with the last film wish it could have been.
Until next time friends, smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em.
Massawyrm
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May 08, 2007 11:17:51 AM CDT
Nice Review. You've Caused Movement In My Excitables.
by georges garvaren
That is all.
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Regina v. Dudley likes movies about people eating people. Doubly so if Begbie gets to take a bite.
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I've been looking forward to this more than I was for Spidey 3. I still think the original was absolutely brilliant all-around, and they just might have come up with the all-time best idea for a sequel.
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How come that old read head dude from 28 days later didn't just use the forbidden curses on all those sprinter/zombie guys. That movie musta taken place before "The Goblet of Fire".
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Sounds good.
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I thought intacto was superb. Especially that unforgettable sequence when they are running in the woods.
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I am still sceptical about this. There was a good interview with the director in the Evening Standard a bit ago that changed my opinion. I started out with "most unnecessary sequel ever" rattling around my brain, and after that it is a firm "Maybe". Tough call this, but if it continues to get positvie vibes then...
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this will be amazing
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Is this thing going to be a trilogy with 28 months later running anchor?
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Now if they could only fit Spud,Sick Boy and Mark Renton in this flick - I'd be 100 % sold.
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That film disturbs me like no other film I have ever seen. It's the realism that gets me - both in the way it was shot (digitally) and in the way in which it was conceived (setting the film in London immediately makes it scarier because it's so different from the generic American-set horror films). Seriously, the scenario put forward in 28 DAYS LATER is just the most fucking scary thing I can imagine. Having said all that, I am SO glad 28 WEEKS LATER turned out to be great - on paper it's the worst idea ever... an unnecessary sequel to a great film that just so happens to be set 28 weeks after the first film. Now I can't wait to see this!
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so.. it's 28 Week s Later vs. Day of the Dead (2007). I wonder wich one will win...
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The trailer gave me goosebumps. Particularly the part where the soldier winks at the kids as they drive away from a city in flames. I know it's kinda cheesy, but damn if it doesn't get me every time.
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I actually thought the third act was the best part about 28 Days Later. It felt like everything that came before, I had seen in other zombie/survival horror movies. It was scary, but I knew what to expect and I was prepared for it. Whereas the depravity of the soldiers in that house veered it off into Apocolypse Now territory. Suddenly, I didn't know what was coming next, and the ensuing massacre felt justified.
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Really, it is.
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you mean the David Mamet one with Val Kilmer? That was a good film but not exactly an obvious reference point for a horror film. That said, I'm pleased that 28 Weeks Later is better than 28 Days Later, because I thought the first film went to shit after about 40 minutes.
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These aren't dead people rising up out of graves - these are living people infected with pure, insane rage. It obviously takes its cue from zombie films and the whole zombie mystique, but calling these things zombies is incorrect. I can't remember from the first film - did they ever eat other people? I don't think they did.
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What does he mean when he defines this zombies as "a third kind of zombie"? Is there a clasification of zombie breeds? What's the second one? I asume the first one is the Romero zombie; slow, brain eating and bite contagious zombie. And while I'm asking; how do unusual kinds of zombies classify? Examples: Frankenstein, Jesus Crist, etc
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and as excited I am about 28 WEEKS LATER, what really has me pumped is thinking about where Fresnadillo will go after this becomes a hit.
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Hostess Cherry Fruit Pies. Blood on the screen is bad. Massawyrm's avatar is bad. I hope the whole movie was shot on a bright sunny day too with flowery meadows, and duckies swimming in a pond while little children are feeding them crackers as kittens chase balls of yarn.
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"Alien = 28 Days Later, Aliens = 28 Weeks Later." If that's the case then here Mr. Director please open my wallet and help yourself to whatever you like, and if that's not enough let me fill out this IOU.
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Heston tooling around on a motorcycle picking off goths. Can't beat it!
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What with Spiderman 3 still raping theaters. It's a shame really, I'll be there...but I doubt anyone else will.
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The difference between zombies and humans would be that the zombies brush their bangs in front of their faces like emo kids. Fuck "Spider-Man 3" - this movie is gonna rock. I was skeptical by the drastically different tone obvious in the commercials but I like what I read here. Thanks for getting my hopes up again! (At least I think that's my hopes.)
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movies. POTA, Omega Man, Soylent Green. All three solid classics. I saw the Vincent Price original of Omegan Man. Was that one actuall called I am Legend? I actually bought the DVD for $1 at Target. It was good, but Heston kicked his ass just like he did in Ten Commandments. I hope Will Smith's version doesn't suck
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Great review, Massa -- and without disappointing spoilers. You're a good man, and don't ever let Harry tell ya different. =)
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Not if it continues getting good reviews. Spidey will drop off tremendously in the coming weeks as a result of people not wanting to see it twice. Hell, I'm pissed I saw it once.
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You're thinking of THE LAST MAN ON EARTH. Classic.
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So, so, so excited! I hope my expectations aren't too high. I'm gonna rewatch 28 Days Later this week and catch this at the theater as soon as possible.
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..and I'm actually starting to get excited about this movie.
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Anyone on this board who hasn't seen it yet - GO NOW! Intacto is ridiculously good. A worthy purchase.
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The first kind of zombie is the voodoo zombie, a guy knocked out with special dust that makes hum look dead so that some unscrupulous bastard can then exhume him for use as a retarded slave. Just keep him away from sugar...
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You should check it out. Much better than its reputation suggests.
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A fucking great follow up with some really flat out awesome moments and good characters that manage to stand out despite not having much time for development, what with the zombie apocalypse and everything. I can only think of minor things I didn't like, and I'm talking REALLY minor. Really solid.
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remember since I own the DVD. Has anyone out there read the original story I Am Legend upon which those three are based?
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I like the ending of 28 Days Later, on a thematic level it works very well but it's a bit of a cliché with the soldiers going all Apocalypse Nowish. Good to hear this cranks it up all the way until the end, just what was needed. Oh, and it's got Stringer Bell in it.
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I liked the last film cause it was 4 people thinking no one else was alive, yet they pressed on hoping to find someone. Then the social dynamic of one guy making sure that society survived as a good guy and some good ladies, instead of the primal, me see woman me make babies guys. I was definetly not dissapointed with that, but if this movie is for people who were dissappointed for the first, maybe I'll have to wait a little longer to see the second.
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That shit just cracks me up.
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I LOVE that film.I'm shocked/glad Hollywood hasnt made a remake of it yet.Such a cool premise and handled very well by a talented director.Cant wait to check this out.
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...the Spectacular Spider-Ham 3... when the hell is Harry gonna review this dog? I know he's buds with Raimi... I know the flick blows foul, black, sticky, web-infused chunks... I know Harry doesn't wanna insult his friends... but damn... just knuckle down and write the friggin' review, guy. Sometimes your pals have to hear the brutal, unvarnished truth!
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World War Z? Cause honestly watching the trailers all I can think about is that this is like a sequel to the book World War Z, with elements of the Yonkers battle thrown in (like the carpet napalming of London)
Makes me worried what everyone is going to think when WWZ gets out of pre-production. People are going to think they ripped this movie off, when 28 weeks came second.
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Then I started half-watching the commercials, and then watching them with my full attention, and then watching them while scratching my head and muttering, "You know, maybe...just maybe...could it possibly be that this movie doesn't suck?" Even if the best parts are all in the commercials, there's still quite a few shots there that say "Come and see me in a movie theatre, Fluffy...you know you want to..."
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the trailer reeked of quality filmmaking, will be there this Friday!
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short, sweet and no spoilers. to quote babar the elephant: is nice.
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I just read "I Am Legend" about a month or so ago. It's pretty short; less than 200 pages. I actually thought it was interesting, but I could *totally* see why movie versions required some creative license being taken. There is almost NO actual confrontation between the lead character and the vampire-thingys; it's really a story about dealing with loss and isolationism, and heavy drinking. So don't expect the book to have Robert Neville flying through the streets at night with guns blazing, whipping undead ass, cuz it just doesn't happen.
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All I've been hearing in bites is that this movie will kick unholy ass this summer. But the thing is, I haven't gotten that feeling from the posters, the ads, or the trailer. I really hope 28WeeksLater doesn't get pushed out to see by the more expensive summer flicks. If there's one "Sam Jackson of genres" right now, it's fucking zombies. We've seen it all. So they really need to amp up the marketing, b/c in the general public's estimation this is another The Hills Have Eyes 2. They need to plaster Massawyrm review in their fucking ads from here on, or this film won't gross $30mill. Mark my words. Siked to see it. Great review.
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*THEORETICAL SPOILER* If the mother is immune to The Rage, then the kids will also be immune and will end up being used as science experiments.
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WHY????!??!!!!!? And it's directed by the loser who only made Constantine. I mean, if you screw up a Keanu/Weisz movie about a kung-fu priest who lives in a bowling alley you've got some talent problems. Constantine should've been the new 'Blade'.
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just my thought
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Count me in!
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Just what I was waiting to hear. This will be just what I need to wash the horribly foul taste out of my mouth from Spiderman. Great review Massa, you've got me psyched dude.
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The first class of zombie is the unexplained, slow moving, dead guy zombie. The second is the unexplained, sprinting, dead guy zombie. The third is the 28 Days Later "zombie". Jesus is in a whole different class of soul devouring zombie (see Evil Dead). And Frankenstein is not a zombie. He was a scientist that created a monster.
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Which is nice in a time where only a few really good horror movies come out each year. It means I'm there.
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Just not Romero zombies (whose zombies actually are more like ghouls than "real" zombies from voodoo tradition). A more generic definition of zombie (according to ye olde online dictionary) is a person who acts like an automaton, which I think could apply here(had the same argument with z-heads over the "zombies" in RE4).
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Nearing the end of the book now. Not sure there's a legitimate debate to be had here. Both franchises are very derivative (in the very best way). They each take the logical step of taking a Romero-type world and extrapolating stories that could be told when not limited to a Romero-type budget. And I'm not even sure you could say whether WWZ or 28WL came first. WWZ was released last September, when this film was already well into production. Of course, Brooks had to have been working on his story since the success of the Zombie Survival Guide in 2003, but then 28WL has been in some stage of development since 28DL was a smash in 2002. Let's just call it "parallel development" and be happy with all the zombies we've been blessed with (well, maybe not those from the Day remake).
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I mean, I liked the first one - the third act didn't really let me down - I just was surprised by the turns it took. I always knew I'd see 28 Weeks Later, but it wasn't on my A list of movies to see this summer. Well, not until now. I just might have to go see this in the theater now. Color me excited.
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finally.
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at least not in the UK for sure.
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I was so pleased to read this review. Thanks.
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Zombi or zombie---…2b: a person markedly strange or abnormal in mentality, appearance, or behavior…
Webster’s 3rd New International Dictionary unabridged 1986 (its probably older than most readers on this site)
I think rage zombies is accurate description of the infected.
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Was a fuckup in TWO ways. One it wasnt even a decent flick about a kung fu priest living in a bowling ally or whatever the hell you said. Two IT WASNT EVEN THE FUCKING COMIC BOOK. Not even close. The comic was grittier the character just plain ugly as a human, and the story a mishmash of a few that the comics told much better with the Weiss chick shit added in.
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Technically not zombies? Who in the hell gives a fuck? THIS CAN'T OPEN SOON ENOUGH! Oh, and does hell quite literally break loose?? That's awesome! So there are demons from hell ravaging the English countryside? I would have never seen that coming!!! Unless you didn't mean 'quite literally' literally, and meant 'metaphorically', instead. But still! Demons would be awesome. Unless I misunderstood something.
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Nah. Reading / hearing the phrase "The Rage" only makes me think of "Rave," which makes me think of Chemical Romance Emo kids dancing around on ecstacy with neon lights and glitter.
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C'mon Massa....
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...and Savannah Samson is STILL eager for more!
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Can't wait to see this now. And by the way, nice avatar!
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The first one really freaked me out watching it late at night alone. Those damn zombie-like people give me the creeps. I really liked the first one and the previews for this one look really good. I will probably have to wait for the DVD to come out to see it. I know my wife would probably have a heart attack in the theater. Looks like a 2PM showing at my house a few months from now with the shades open.
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the trailers look were starting to sway me, and i think this brings me over...i'm a zombie now
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how Danny Boyle said in a recent interview that he'd be interested in doing the 3rd '28timeperiods' movie, which is a bit shit for the guy who did the 2nd one as he might wanna expand on whatever he did. Surely if the orig Director pissed off to do something else he needs to get back in the queue after the guy who's done the sequel he never wanted for dibs on the 3rd.
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I was getting depressed, what with the crappy Day of the Dead remake, Steven King's unscary vegetable eating zombies from the ultra-disappointing CELL and the "kick in the balls" casting of Will Smith as Richard Neville in I Am Legend.(F**k U Warner Bros!!)
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that should read unscary vegetable eating Psychic zombies from the ultra-disappointing CELL.
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in manchester, believe the review, this is one hardcore flick, it starts with a bang, slows down for a bit then builds and builds for the finale, michael from lost's method of zombie disposal had me laughing with glee, scenes of eye gouging had me checking around me to see who couldnt watch ( quite a few people) and the sniper scenes made me gape in awestruck horror as arms and legs and heads go everywhere, plus it has the best exploding head scene ever (after The proposition just took the number one spot last year).. i'm no plant mofo's , this is one quality movie , i saw it on a free last week and i'll be back with some cash come friday 11th in the UK to watch it again, plus i'm off work friday so i can go early and see it without dickheads whinging about it.
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Review: Rage Festers in `28 Weeks Later'
Tuesday May 8 2:30 PM ET
The U.S. military has occupied Britain to make it habitable again and stamp out the last vestiges of the "rage" virus that decimated the land in the horror hit "28 Days Later."
Now it's "28 Weeks Later," and the troops are allowing refugees to repopulate the realm, essentially declaring, "Mission accomplished."
We've heard that before. And we've seen it all before, as this woeful sequel presents a strained story and a barrage of turgid action that looks like inferior outtakes from the first movie.
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Danny Boyle, who directed "28 Days Later," is back as executive producer, but his storytelling expertise seems entirely absent.
Director Juan Carlos Fresnadillo, who made the well-regarded thriller "Intacto," teams with three other writers on a thin story that sucks away all the frenzied fun a zombie flick should provide. Instead, the zombies are relegated to second-banana ghouls, co-starring behind the human monsters who wear uniforms and carry guns.
The movie opens with a prologue as Don (Robert Carlyle, who co-starred in Boyle's "Trainspotting" and "The Beach") holes up with wife Alice (Catherine McCormack) and other survivors in a cottage stronghold, trying to survive the initial outbreak that has turned most of the population into cannibalistic demons.
When the infected break in, Don flees, and in a moment of cowardice, leaves Alice behind, an action that will have terrible repercussions down the road.
Months later, after the infected have starved to death, Don is among survivors in a fortified area of London guarded by U.S. troops supervising the return of Brits who either escaped or were out of the country when the virus struck.
Don is reunited with his children, Andy (Mackintosh Muggleton) and Tammy (Imogen Poots), who had been overseas. Because of an inherited immunity, Andy may hold the key to curing the rage virus if it ever comes back, but he and his sister also are catalysts whose actions result in the plague's inevitable return.
The key military roles are filled by Jeremy Renner as a sniper, Harold Perrineau as a helicopter pilot, Idris Elba as the general leading the repopulation and Rose Byrne as Scarlet, a medical officer concerned that people are being allowed back home too soon.
Her doubts are justified, given the short time that has passed since the epidemic and considering the idiocy of the troops.
The military has set up a containment zone about as secure as a kid's backyard fort made of cardboard boxes. The troops make snap judgments too stupid to believe, allowing the rage virus to quickly take hold again.
Their final solution for dealing with new hordes of infected makes for pretty pyrotechnics but defies all logic and human decency. The movie's ending is laughable, and sadly, could provide the germ of another sequel.
Scenes in the first film of British soldiers' expediency in coping with the outbreak were chilling, a sign of how humanity might devolve toward savagery amid such chaos. In "28 Weeks Later," the military types are truly more dangerous beasts than the infected, though the message is empty given the stiffness and shallowness of the characters.
The characters in "28 Days Later," none of whom return, were wily, passionate and real. Their counterparts here are little more than lunch meat.
The sequel has a nasty spirit and unlike the original, has no sense of humor, and often, no sense at all.
No matter the precautions, why would anyone let thousands of civilians back in a city rampant with diseased rats and wild dogs just months after a hellish plague, while corpses still litter the streets and cleanup crews burn the bodies?
"What if it comes back?" Scarlet asks the general.
"If it comes back, we'll kill it," the moronically cocky general replies.
It's hard to say if the filmmakers meant it as timely Iraq commentary on the overconfidence of military leaders in an impossible campaign or if it's just feeble writing. Either way, "28 Weeks Later" amounts to bad storytelling.
"28 Weeks Later," a Fox Atomic release, is rated R for strong violence and gore, language and some sexuality/nudity. Running time: 101 minutes. One and a half stars out of four.
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..that sets this apart from *THOOOM!* any other turgid piece of shit *THOOM!* horror movie that's come out over the last, oh *THOOM!*, too many years. the director's cut of "maniac" has got a pretty good head exploding scene begbiespintglass.
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That's what I"ve been hearing at least. I guess the Brits want revenge for U-571, The Patriot, and just about every other Hollywood movie, which is quite a few, that had a British villian. Well, fook that shite, m8!
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absolutely incredible. It's far superior than the original and is just one of those movies you simply cannot afford to miss. www.obsessedwithfilm.com
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Wow...
I was at a press screening last night and I almost walked out. I have to admit that I'm not a huge zombie fan but I had really enjoyed 28 Days Later.
28 Weeks Later wants to be bigger in scope but in doing so, can’t keep its scenario as tight as the original. The result is too many stupid plot points that keep taking you out of the movie.
My main gripes:
The kids are spotted leaving the Safe/Green Zone within minutes but it takes what seems like hours for the army to catch up with them while they go on a fun scooter “tour” of London. Lame ! The kids could have been shown cunningly avoiding the army because they know London very well.
The infected but immune wife could be THE cure to the disease but she is left alone, with no guards whatsoever in her medical trailer so the husband can easily sneak in there? Lame ! Would have been easy to put the husband and wife in contact by just having him ask the General or Medic to see his wife, for just a minute.
After the initial outbreak where the 2 kids are separated and everyone is running all over the place, they happen to take refuge in the same “warehouse”. Not too lame I guess but really “convenient”.
The way Doyle gets killed by his fellow soldiers during a supposedly act of heroic self-sacrifice… Lame. Seems to me that all he had to do was turn around and TALK/YELL at them that he was one of them.
The way the Medic, limping badly because of a “flesh wound” (Yes there’s actually a line where she says it’s only a “flesh wound”), never get caught by the zombies running at full speed… Lame. I don’t have a solution to fix this particularly bad plot point. Too lame to fix
But the WORST part of the movie is the fact that the husband/dad, while infected and crazy… acts rationally! Seemingly, he is pissed at his kids (who were pissed at him because he kinda lied to them about their mom being dead…) so he stalks them throughout London. Doesn’t always attack them mind you. At least once, he just observes them… LAME LAME LAME… I just don’t get why they tried to inject that “emotional angle” into the story.
Also, the end seems rushed. Not sure what the “big finale” is that the begbiespslinter is referring to. The Metro scene with the medic ? How can it be? It takes place in the dark between 4 people…
I also didn’t particularly enjoy the way some of the “attack” scenes were filmed. Especially the first one in the farm. Shaky camera work, cinema-verite… whatever. It was very confusing. Hard to tell who was who.
The gore content was OK but it was mainly some body parts being taken out by high-powered rifles. Nothing that hasn’t been seen before. As I said earlier I’m not a big fan of zombies but I seem to recall other zombie flicks that had more gore in ‘em.
I enjoyed 2 things though: The scene with the helicopter chopping down zombie. While implausible, it was fun and gory enough. Also, the eye gouging sequence was nasty.
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I meant to. really.
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I still cant figure out why anyone calls 28DL a "ZOMBIE" movie. I do believe that the original never came close to calling them ZOMBIES. They were always referred to as "INFECTED". Big difference.
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...a few minor quibbles aside, it really is a tense, edge-of-your-seat, horror movie. The first scene alone is incredible, not only for the savagery and setting the tone, but also in getting us to sympathize with a character who basically leaves people behind to die. Go see it...
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They have nearly identical plots. Not that there's anything necessarily wrong with that, but if you liked 28 Days Later, dig up a copy of Triffids and check it out. Fun stuff.
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O happy day!
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for the love of god don't pick up the new issue of Fangoria. They basically ruined half the movie with their big cover shot. Thanks Fango...
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I just want my name in the talkback...
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PLANTS PLANTS PLANTS PLANTS PLANTS PLANTS........... it's started already....... the PR campaign.... every third post is a 'new user' bigging it up like crazy. fucking hell i'd give up reading movie discussion forums completely forever, if it wasn't for the fact that occasionally there's some GENUINE news in here.....
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I liked the movie alot more than you did, though. Yeah there were definitely some conveniences in the plot, but I don't think the kids taking a while to be caught is one of them. The army was tailing them the whole time, they were probably gone for an hour only. Also about the soldier getting toasted, had you not been watching the movie? They were sniping EVERYBODY, FIREBOMBING and CHEMICALLY GASSING everything in the city. It didn't matter if you said you were ok, the army had moved to extermination. If you were in the city, they were NOT going to let you get out alive, period. Doyle knew that, that's why he sniped one of his own men. Those guys would have toasted him either way. You heard Harold Perrineau- "If I try to land with those kids on board they will blow me out of the sky." The government wasn't taking ANY chances.
I agree that the mom should have been guarded, but remember, the medic JUST found out about her immunity literally minutes before the outbreak began. Guarding would have been good, though, as a precaution. As for the father, it was annoying that he snuck in but they set that up in the beginning with his AAA access card, so I was able to forgive his easy access to a locked medical room.
What i really loved about the film was the pretty overwhelming atmosphere of dread they pulled off. From the first sequence there's this sense that things are not right and it only is amplified as everything begins to go wrong. Action-wise, it really doesn't let up, and it's exhausting but a great ride.
Also, another thing I didn't like, when the kids get separated from the medic in the subway, they don't answer her calls... WHAT is that. What kid in their right mind wouldn't say "I'm right here!"? Granted, there could be infected down there, but still. Also, I am ok with the father hunting them simply because the specifics of the virus are not ever spelled out. We don't know if they have any recollection of the past lives (though his actions indicate they do). The father was emotionally fucked up for a long time, so his hunting them in particular, after wanting to be with them for so long, sort of makes sense in a fucked up way. -
for a while, but became accustomed to it after a while to the point where i stopped noticing it. Also liked the score- there wasn't much but it worked well I thought.
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of 28 Days Later: people don't like to be surprised. Sure, a twist at the very end is fine, but to change the rules of the film a little over halfway through is too much for most people to handle. Psycho would have been called the worst movie in history today because it actually surprises the audience. It's the reason why every preview pretty much tells the entire story, "twists" and all. It's also why fast food is so popular. People want to know what they're getting, then consume it, and later forget it. I also thought the last third of the first film was the best part (Jim going feral gave me a huge rush of adrenaline. Hell, I almost tore the head off the person in front of me). It's also necessary for the film's thesis.
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That's pretty fuckin crazy!! Is there even a release date for US yet??? Um, ... speaking of sequels bettering their originals... Argh, I'm bad at this...
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...people don't like the last act of 28 days because it stops a rather interesting movie in its tracks to do a pale riff on Romero's Day of the Dead, with spotty motivations and weak development. It's not that it changes. It's WHAT it changes into. And nobody would think Psycho was the worst movie ever made. That's just a silly straw man of an argument.
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I never post on AICN but I like to read your posts on the Heroes and Lost TB. I usually agree with you.
So you were at the screening at the AMC century City?
I did watch the movie but I admit I didn’t hear all of it. I might be getting old but I thought the sound was way too high last night. I stuck my fingers in my ears a few times. LOL
I hear your “rebuttal” of my gripes and I’ll give you the “Code Red Everybody Must Be Eliminated” explanation to rationalize the killing of Doyle. But that’s it. LOL.
I still think that the army letting the kids roam free in a city that is quarantined b/c of a unknown, unexplainable, un-curable disease is weak writing to bring them in contact with their mom. Remember the warning over the PA system in the metro that brings them into the Free Zone? It’s clear that no one should go outside the safe zone. If someone tried, you’d think they’d get their asses picked up by the army PRONTO
And as far as Perrineau saying that if he lands with the kids they’ll blow him up… Why didn’t Boyle tell him that the kids, per the Medic’s explanation, were extremely important, that one of them might have/be the cure. Getting them back alive would have then become a priority for the military.
Yeah, guarding the mom should have been a basic precaution. That would have made the dad sneaking in impossible. I agree that the fact that he was AAA explained why he was able to get everywhere easily. That didn’t bother me at all. It made sense.
I forgot about the kids, actually the boy, not responding when he is being called in the metro. Very unlikely behavior indeed.
Unlike you, I definitely can’t look pass the dad’s behavior. Sure, the specifics of the virus haven’t been fully described and I can see the “logic” of your explanation about him wanting to be with them, albeit to kill them and eat them. But nowhere in the 1st movie do you see the zombies/infected act in a rational way. They run, they bite, they feed. Period. If some of them had been shown acting coherently, intelligently, I could have bought his zombie/infested character’s “motivation” but that’s not the case.
I do agree that it doesn’t let up though. But unfortunately for me, each of what I see as weak plot point took me right out of the movie.
Anyway, a few other points bothered me (such as why turn Carlisle into a zombie/infected when you would think that the movie would be about his “redemption” following his guilt at having abandoned his wife in the farm.) but I gotta work a bit before I clock out.
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Fuck. Yes. I knew he survived that shotgun blast to the chest from Omar. Idris Elba and Avon are gonna take back their corners from Marlo and 'zombie master' Chris. "I want my Corners, String."
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The real question is what should these things be called? We need a solid, functioning name for them. Anyone?
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Or see something else,or don't go to the movies at all, just don't give anymore money to that piece of shit Spider-man 3.
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"Dawn of the Dead" or "The Cooler." An auspicious debut by a relatively unknown helmer. First you're asking yourself "Who the fuck is this dude who gets to make his own movie?" Then when you've seen it, you're like "Oh yeah. That's who he is."
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That's how me and my friends felt after that shitty Spidey 3...Fun fact, a couple of people were applauding at the end of it and got boooed for that.
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they still aren't zombies. i love the first film and i'm stoked for this one. i just don't want people to keep thinking that they are zombies!!!!! they are infected with a 'rage virus.' therefore they have nothing to do with romero's or o'bannon's undead films. so just forget the comparisons.
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i'll be watching that shit tonight, can't fuckin' wait...
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And their review was far more intelligent.
C'mon, Harry, Mori, what is this place now? A screed-filled playland for juveniles with genre fetishes? Bah. -
...no problems with any portion of the film, and in fact, thought that the third act was quite engrossing. For me, it felt like a great character study, straight out of a 70's movie. Kubrickian. Whatever, I'm putting on my flame retardant pajamas now.
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Insulting me is fine. This is AICN. It's expected. But diverting people to another review without giving a heads up that it spoils EVERY SINGLE PLOT POINT in the movie, including one of the big twists in the very first paragraph is another. Really uncool. There's a reason I write almost entirely spoiler free reviews. So people who want to get a heads up on the film and still SEE IT FOR THEMSELVES can. After reading that review, there's almost no reason to see it at all - except to see if Devin can convey the story better than the movie can. Give a spoiler warning before sending people off to ruin their experience.
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You're absolutely right. I don't work for those guys, and I don't mean to ruin anyone's experience. Hopefully since I posted before the ass-crack of dawn on a weekday, few were spoiled. And now, if they read this dialogue b'twixt me and you, they won't be unwillingly.
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apology and insult accepted.
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On both accounts. Now I feel a little bad for calling you out. But, you know, not *too* bad. ;)
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The end of "28 Days Later" was simply boring. It wasn't a twist, it was just a huge let-down.
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That little cretin that works for Radio 1 says it is good. And he is a cunt.
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Am still undecided. the only question is whether I am undecided enough to fork out for it
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This is a kick ass sequel. It's been a long time since i've jumped and been so tense at the cinema. Didn't expect it to be so good.
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you are a genius!!"The entire premise is so rediculous it's hard to sit through something so perposperous"The king of the TF apologists says something else is hard to sit through because it is preposterous. Fucking genius
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Why is every cunt being so nice to fletch after he spoiled the whole fuckin movie?
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May 09, 2007 5:46:54 AM CDT
My theory as to why people don't like the third act...
by bannedontherun
The idea that sex with anyone besides Harry could be considered a worse fate than being ripped apart by the infected. I'd lube up rather than be eaten.
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I say at least equal. THANKS, Wyrm, for making your post before I went to that imbecile's site and had my experience totally ruined. I appreciate your spoiler-free review. As for the poster, may you be ass-violated in hell for those whose experiences you DID ruin.
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...yeah...
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...the 'get some in your mouth and you've had it' scenario comes from that movie (although i'm trying to think of earlier examples - Argento's Demons? Didn't they have to scratch you?).
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Saw it last night in London. Definitely better than the original, total white knuckle ride. Cant wait for "28 Months Later" and see if the possibly returning Danny Boyle to the directors chair can top this one.
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the last act of DAYS is a fucking cliche... that is why people dont like it, or why i dont anyway. 'humanity are the real monsters,' yeah we havent seen that one before fellas. it's a very creative movie up to that point; boyle prides himself on doing things differently, but he fails bigtime in this case.
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Brutal. Abso-fucking Brutal.
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Sounds liked an interesting read. I'll have to look it up soon, when I'm holed up in my honky paradise, brother. Thanks.
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is putting it into your Netflix queue instead of the Blockbuster online queue. How long will it take people to realize how much better the Blockbuster service is with the in store rentals and one free game a month. Ive left Netflix after 3 years and never looked back. Great review as always, i cant wait to see it.
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..call them zoombies coz they can run... quickly... uh...
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and if so, what's their address so i can mail them a bloodthirsty triffid...
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Then would my bank account would have more zeroes to the left of the decimal point.
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You mean, because the movie jerks the audience off with typical over-the-top torture porn effects, played-out 'bloodthirsty US Army' cliches, and logic defying plot advancements? Right? RIGHT!?
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Different people like different things in a zombie movie, and I like scale. The beginning of both Dawn versions had scale. The first half of 28 Days Later used neat guerrilla filmmaking techniques to fake a cool "Day of the Triffids" scale. I can overlook some plot point implausibility if parts of the movie take place outside, instead of in a contained environment. If they show shots of a deserted post-plague London, I can tolerate some implausibility. If they show unit-scale military action against zombies, I can tolerate some implausibility. If they show a supposedly secure facility overrun by zombies, I will be OK with it if it seems like a "cardboard fort". I'm just so sick of contained-environment horror that if your story or your budget forces you to make a bottle movie, it better be fucking Alien or the original NOTLD or I'm not buying. I'm sick of it enough that I'll cut you some slack if you at least try to do something different.
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Romero and O'Bannon don't set the limits of what a zombie is or is not. Both ninjamime and myself have given established definitions of "zombie" which fit both 28DL and Snyder's Dawn. That doesn't make them the SAME zombies as Romero's, any more than Dracula's vampires are the same as those in Lost Boys or Buffy, but they are still zombies.
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May 09, 2007 1:18:23 PM CDT
Bring it on! Can't wait to get that Spiderman 3
by emptywalletproductions
taste out of my mouth.
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so, who stole from who first as far as the 'chopper making mincemeat of zombies' is concerned? Rodriquez or Boyle?
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I loved 28 Days Later. I would have been satisfied with a sequel half as good, but this one sounds legitimately awesome. Gotta catch it on the silver screen for sure now.
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..had to be said
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Thanks, Wyrm, for the heads-up. You changed my mind on seeing this one.
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And while I had minor problems with certain 'convenient' plot-holes I still loved it. The opening scene alone is worth the price of admission and is everything horror should be. I would see the film again for that 15 minute sequence alone.
I would complain more about the film's problems (and really I only had 2 minor gripes) but really I'd rather watch a horror film that's 90% great and trying to do something different than the stupid teen horror films we have been inundated with the last 10 years. Most here will enjoy the film.
**SPOILER***
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It's on eatmybrains and it looks awesome. What the hell is going on there?
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i didnt get to see this again today, i had to watch that pile of shite spiderman3, i'm going to see this again on sunday though, why do half the people on here not believe that if people like a film they give it a positive review.
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