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Hollywood loves Frank Miller these days... yet another one of his properties to be made into a feature!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. SIN CITY and 300 have been huge and now the business can't get enough of Frank Miller... after all these years.
The next property will be RONIN, which WB picked up. I must admit that RONIN is one of the other pieces by Miller that I'm not totally familiar with. I began reading it a few years ago, but then got distracted and ended up not picking it up again. I have to search it out again. Everybody I know loves it.
Sylvain White (STOMP THE YARD) is attached to direct and possibly script. At the moment they're working off a 15 page treatment White wrote.
The story centers on a reincarnated ronin who returns in a semi-modern time populated with many nasties, including mutants and demons.
Could be cool and it sounds like White has a passion for the story, but STOMP THE YARD and I'LL ALWAYS KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER don't evoke confidence. Thoughts?
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Should be fun to see at least once.
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Is uber cool but a bit stranger than either sincity or 300 and I can't quite see it being popular as a film for some reason.
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the comic could have been great but ended up boring me, but it sure has potentials...
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But not all that exciting. "Sin City" was great, it was groundbreaking, and had tons of A-List celebs (and B-List favorites like Michael Madsen). "300" was ok, but way overhyped/overrated for what it was. When I saw a "300" trailer, I knew that it was the first of more to come, that everyone and their mother would be taking a Frank Miller book and adapting it in a visually interesting/CG Heavy way to make a quick buck. Very much like Superhero movies after "X-Men" and "Spider-Man".....at least on Marvel's end. Basically, "Sin City" was great, "300" was cool but not as new or groundbreaking with less stars, and I'm getting worried it will be a downward spiral (again, much like some of the Marvel comic properties). In fact, I'm not even sure how good Sin City 2 will be. It could be like the Matrix, where the first one was great and it went down from there.
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Ronin is a wonderfully trippy book that doesn't get nearly the kudos that Miller's other books seems to get. The part that worries me is handing the project over to the Breakin' 3: Stomp the Yard director. Think this movie would work better off as an anime movie.
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Now is the time.
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... the premise of this story sounds a little complicated (if not interesting) to say the least (Checked it out on the 'oh so reliable' Wiki). Something this detailed in the hands of an untested director makes me doubt this project, some what. However, if Sin City and 300 are anything to go by, this motion picture has the potential to be bloody marvelous! Hail the mind (and pencil) of Frank Miller!
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But he's produced some weak stories. It's not like everything he does is great (I enjoy 300 in both mediums, but it is overrated) I am more interested in what he is going to do with The Spirit. I was talking to his editor a few weeks ago and she said that he hasn't done much of anything with respect to comic writing lately. All his work is on his own Hollywood projects,
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good to know there's life after Robocop 3 then... i kid, i kid. this is great news.
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May 02, 2007 4:03:06 AM CDT
If only Frank Miller's stuff caught on years earlier..
by boondock devil
We might have gotten a really good R-Rated Elektra film. One where she wouldn't be nearly as pouty?
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All due love to AICN but this was mentioned on G4's "Icons: Frank Miller" special which aired back in 2007 when "300" first opened. All due love for Frank Miller, and this was a cool story beginning in feudal Japan and concluding in the future, but more than a literary effort, this was a stylistic ARTISTIC experiment with Frrank Miller breaking away from his sketchy failed pseudo Gil Kane drawing style (because, face it, no one draws like Gil Kane) and trying to incorporate influences from French national treasure Moebius and "Lone Wolf and Cub" artist Goseki Kojima [the property is widely credited to Kazuo Koike, in the same way Watchmen is credited to Alan Moore. he wrote it, Kojima was the artist Miller was imitating.) Doing an artistic experiment in aping the style of other admired and influential artists as a live action movie would kind of be missing the point, wouldn't it? Unless they do this as animation, which the articles didn't seem to imply. Still, "Alien" was a good HR Giger/Ron Cobb/Moebius movie, and "200" was more or less an animated film, so maybe this could work if done that way. Or they might try to mimic the styles of two well known directors. Not really up on my auteur theory, let's say, oh, Kurasawa and Godard. Or Run Run Shaw and Jerry Lewis. (I kid, I kid Frank Miller because I radically disagree with his position on comic book ratings labeling, but I admire some of his work and his recent success.) *** I did know about this before, though, as mentioned above, so when I read the headline I was hoping someone had snagged up "Give Me Liberty" or "Hard Boiled". Hey, if Transformers and Speed Racer are hits, can we have a LIVE ACTION "Big Guy and Rusty The Boy Robot" movie? Pardon my gratuitous use of the B-word, but how totally bitchin' would that be. (Of course it would have to be blue screened and mega-detailed in super high definition to capture Geoff Darrow's hectically super-detailed art style.)
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Come on, if Frank Miller is such a hot property in Hollywood these days, why does he have a chump director attached to his newest project?
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I mean DeNiro and Reno? And how about that kick ass car chase. You can't tell me that wasn't one of the best in recent memory. Plus that chick looks like Meryl Streep. I would be much more interested in a Frank Miller version of that Ronin. And for those wondering what they're doing...THEY'RE STOMPING THE YARD! WHERE YOU FROM?
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I HAVE NEVER SEEN STEPPING LIKE THIS BEFORE. Gotta love Sway, man.
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another classic Miller property, I bet Frank's plenty pissed off, I'd be worried with such a mediocre choice of director. Let's hope he raises his game for this one.
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for choosing directors for projects. I think the studio execs sprinkle some blow on a hooker's ass and then read it like tea leaves.
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James Cameron, Steven Speilberg, Sam Raimi, Bryan Singer, and Peter Jackson. If you ain;t one of those 5 you're a hack.
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It's pure Miller. The reason his graphic novels (or let's just say it, comics) work so well on film is because his style as both writer and artist is very cinematic in the first place. It's also the reason why a great writer like Alan Moore gets shitty movies. His work is just too literary for film (also, the people adapting his work into movies are hacks). It seems now is Miller's time. Good for him. Bring on Robocop vs Terminator!
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Hope Sylvain White gets replaced...
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Miller's stuff is most always worthy of some attention.
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before Batman Begins, then we could've gotten Batman Year One like we should have. What a flippin' waste.
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Animal Man
Doom Patrol
The Invisibles
Kid Eternity
WE3
Seaguy
Sebastian O
Marvel Boy
Seven Soldiers of Victory
Looking for that next Philip K. Dick or Frank Miller library to plunder, Hollywood? Here you go...
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That film was the balls for displaced samurai taking on modern life and finding it rubbish!
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When I saw Quint's headline logically I knew it wouldn't be DKR, but I was foolishly hoping. It wouldn't make sense to do it now. But ten or twenty years down the line they'd be fools not to.
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I'll take Ronin. I am unfamiliar with it, but it has Frank Miller and samurai so that's enough for me. I believe it was Miller who was first responsible for getting LW&C to the U.S., and he illustrated several covers for the US versions
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After the Dark Knight stuff I was very pumped for Ronin. Wow, was I in for a surprise, by issue four I was completely lost, even after going back and rereading the first few issues. I guess I was expecting more along the lines of Miller's Daredevil or Dark Knight stuff. I just couldn't wrap by 12 year old brain around it, so I gave up. Many years later I got a hold of the entire set and read it again, enjoying the hell out it this time. That being said, I don't think Ronin will translate well to film without changing the story quite a bit. I guess with Miller's stuff being so popular now we look forward to just about all of his graphic novels making to the big screen in the future. Of course after Batman, 300, Daredevil, Elecktra and Sin City making it to the big screen that only leaves Give Me Liberty and... well thats all I can think of at the moment.
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Now that would be an awesome adaptation ne translation. I never did read the follow ups: Martha Washington Goes to War. I think I read the first one, but stopped there. Verne Troyer as Raggy Ann.
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a frank millers daredevil bron again movie
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And every guy who did shows on UPN's blackstravaganza night has 9 picture deals with Dimension now.
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Not Cool news. This sucks. Who's next. Bets anyone?
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I know Ronin came before...way, way before. Still, what a boring property. I'm with Spyguy...bring on the INVISIBLES movie!!!
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he might be a bit much for hollywood to handle though...would have to be directed by some of the weirder ones.
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May 02, 2007 9:49:09 AM CDT
I'm suprised Commiewood loves a patriot like Miller...
by neo con snake plissken
Considering most everyone working in Hollywood are socialist tratiors, Frank is a breath of fresh air. I'd love to see a film where Frank kicks all the Hollywood elite down a well screaming "THIS IS AMERICA!!!"
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Are you pissed that people are dogging the director mentioned in this post? I mean ,I know we all have a tendency to be harsh on this site but we should be excited about seeing something new from the guy who brought us "Stomp The Yard" and I'll Always Know" ? I guess Uwe Boll was busy with Blood Rayne 3 Electric Bloodaloo.
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... who hate films, hate the film industry, hate anyone who works in any capacity in the film industry, hate anything even related to the film industry, hate anyone who wants to work in the film industry, in fact even hate film fans, people who appreciate pop culture or art on any level, even hate the concept of art itself... coming onto the site... a site devoted to film and pop culture... to just throw hate around and harrass and namecall anyone who disagrees with their fascistic, narrow, cultlike political agenda. Harry, ferchrissakes get your webmaster to delete these fuckers quicker!
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or does this site not like black directors? just curious.
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Directed by Chris Cunningham, Neil Bloomkampf or Arronofsky.
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I may have to pull that out to read again. Ronin, too. Now if they can only do Steelgrip Starkey...
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Hey, take it easy, buddy. Everyone here obviously loves film. It's just that we want the people involved to do the best job they possibly can, and replace those who can't, won't or just don't give a shit. I'm just tired of no-talent, no-brain directors hijacking franchises and characters we all love. Mark Steven Johnson on Ghost Rider? Can you just imagine him doing Preacher?
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I suspect the reason Ronin was never hailed as Dark Knight/300/Sin City is simply that the readers always felt slightly cheated in the end. The series starts out very mystically with a ronin re-incarnated to battle the demon that slew his master (and made him the ronin) from fuedal Japan. The character makes his way about in a very Blade Runner future kicking cyberpunk ass in Miller style while the Demon takes over a super-computer complex thats seemingly plugged in to the whole planet. All good & dandy except in the end (this is the spolier kids)it turns out the Ronin is simply a nerdy computer programmer with latent telekenetic abilities who just always fantasied the whole Ronin story and turned himself into the character and the Demon is simply a robot created by the super-computer that gone HAL 2001 to induce the programmers abilities that it needed for some reason I can't recall. Anyhoo my point is for this to work I think they won't be able to keep all of this unless they're willing to put out a 3 hour movie to explain "Ok everything we told you in the first hour & a half was a lie now we're going to show really going on". I say make it a hard R-rated Samruai Jack Frank Miller splatter fest and call it a day.
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Robocop vs Terminator!
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my mom wanted to go see this last christmas, so i reluctantly took her. but, to my surprise, i really enjoyed it. it's a very cliched story. it could easily have fallen into that sappy arena. however, everything is handled well. the actors all turn in respectable performances, and the choreography is awesome. i enjoyed myself. so, i give this guy a chance. i think he has potential. as far as that tim story comparison goes, that's road apples. stomp the yard was a far superior film to anything tim story has done...
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Really old
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and my opinion is still the same: this novel will be ridiculously hard to adapt for the screen. and the director??? pfff
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Definitely sounds like this site doesn't like black directors. Get over it. It's usually the studios that fuck up good comic book properties.
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and threw buckets of money at him to direct. Because I don't see anything jawdropping coming from the guy who directed Stomp the Yard.
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It is a very linear story, once you get past the beginning.
Everything in the "past" is a TV show or a dream of the main character who has incredible mental powers and recreates himself into the form of a Masterless Samurai from Feudal Japan. It took place in the Future (it was written 24 years ago--so it would be an alternate reality, now) and with each book , Frank experimented with storytelling and the medium...the look of the book changes from the beginning to the end. But it most definitely is NOT taking place in a computer...my question is will anyone want to see a post-apocalyptic New York City populated by rejects from Escape From New York, Road Warrior, Dawn of the Dead, and the mutants from Buck Rogers?
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I absolutely love this book, it was one of the first comics I ever read where I realized comics could be more than just kiddy books. It might also be the first comic that I saw nekkid girls in.
How will they handle the scenes between the Nazi and black gangs? I have a hard time believing they'll show a topless blond in a Hitler costume arguing with a black caricature nowadays. -
I remember hearing things about that years ago. Guess it fell into Hollywood limbo.
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It would work fantastically as a movie if given the direct translation approach of Sin City and 300.
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Rosario Dawson was born to play the role of Casey in this. They'll probably shy away from the sex and nekkidness of the graphic novel, unfortunately.
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Dug the hell out of this script when it got passed around a few years ago, even before I realized that Frank Miller had anything to do with it. Never read the Graphic Novel, but thought this had a lot of potential - even if it was extremely strange.
The following will be somewhat spoiler-heavy, but it pertains to what I'm guessing is an older draft:
Circean6 above gave away the ending to the GN, and though I found it somewhat intriguing they definitely had changed it in the draft I read. The story does go into the history of the Ronin and his quest to defeat the Demon that killed his master; what's extremely cool is that we get random flashbacks throughout the movie of the Ronin hunting the Demon (named Agat, as I recall) throughout time - The Crusades, WWI, Vietnam, etc. The story finally ends up in NYC in 2063, where Agat is the head of a cybernetics company and Ronin inhabits the body of a boy with cybernetic arms. I won't go into the specifics of that ending, but it's certainly proper and doesn't involve a dude with a porn mustache at a computer.
OK, no more real spoilers now.
The concept that I thought worked best in RONIN was that all of the able humans have moved into highrises that pepper the city - massive things in which one of the World Trade Center towers would have been a smaller dwelling. In the streets below are gangs of mutants and warring humans - like the Aryans and Black Panthers - and a good chunk of the story takes place with them. I recall a kickass scene of Ronin riding around on a white horse slaughtering these guys...which actually made sense in the context of the story.
Whatever happens the script had great action and a really solid narrative - something that isn't the norm in these CGI monstrosities - so I'm definitely looking forward to it. -
The plot is described as "The story centers on a reincarnated ronin who returns in a semi-modern time populated with many nasties, including mutants and demons. " This sounds just like Samurai Jack. Why not just do a film of that instead?
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I see you already mentioned the Samurai Jack angle. So, ya doin' anything later on? Wanna go for a cream soda or a sammich or something?
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I believe there was actually an interview on this very site with Mr. White. He seemed okay. He essentially said he knew what he was making was...Less than worthy of time and effort, and he was just doing his best to make it presentable.
Perhaps this is his genuine starting block. You have to start somewhere. Would you turn Scorssese away for Boxcar Bertha? What about Camerons Pirhana 2? Sure, this guy isn't following up his early forays with an original work of his own creation, but then again, it's not like he is adapting something all that special. It's a Frank Miller comic book. As in, Alright, not Great. So it kind of demands an Alright, not Great director. -
...figuring that after Sin City and 300, this'd be the next Frank Miller book to be adapted (I came to this result because it was the only other Frank Miller book I'd ever heard of that wasn't Batman, Daredevil or Elektra related, and those guys already have movies.)
I dunno what kind of movie it'll make. If they're looking for a big blockbuster smash along the lines of 300, thay'll have to change a lot of plot elements (pretty much everything Circean6 mentioned).
Oh, and I just wannt say: cast June Foray for Virgo! While I was reading the book, that was the only actor I could associate with any part, and she's still got the chops to do it. Or, if she's not willing, Tress McNeille. -
Better be damn soon. That would be a great movie.
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Move on.
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I like 'Give Me Liberty' as a film, but the sequels not so much. Ronin. If Miller is gonna get into directing and theoretically do as well as the films that he has had adapted by professional directors, Marvel should get him to do right by Daredevil.
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I agree Jakes Nel,Robocop Vs Terminator should be done the way Frank Miller wrote it and the way that Walt Simonson drew it,I enjoyed that series a lot..Give me Liberty was a good series,though I think it's a tough ask to make as a film,saying that,I'd like to see the burger robots in action.All star Batman= Whats going on there then?.Hard boiled was a good blast,I'd like to see that one made In CGI based on Geoff Darrow's artwork,his Shaolin cowboy was a good laugh too.I enjoyed 300,that film didn't mess about,I liked the style they used and I appreciated seeing some of the art in the comic being directly represented onscreen.They should reboot Daredevil and ask Frank for input.
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Animated that bitch and get it on HBO.
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I'm not sure we need any more Miller right now. The other two are FAR from perfect and the studio seems to think that he can just turn on a tap and America's suppressed masculine yearnings will come flooding out. Miller has his hand on middle-America's hummersexual erection. Grant Morrison is too gay, too multi-spiritual and too damn complex for the Hoo-Yah! demographic; you know; the ones who cheer instesd of laugh at comedy.
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It doesn't get any more different from Miller's other works than "Ronin". As a matter of fact I'm concerned that people won't like the film version because they might be expecting "300" or "Sin City". Also, as someone who lives in Middle America, I enjoy Morrison's work. "Animal Man" is criminally good and so was "The Inivisibles" first few story arcs. I also really like Neil Gaiman's stories.. and I'm certain that they 'out gay/multi-spirtualizes Morrison's work. Now if you'll excuse me, I suppose I should get back to cheering. Hoo-Yah.
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I was talking to a guy at Dark Horse recently, Miller and Gibbons have finished a new one-off Martha Washington book. Now that's cool news.
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cheadlistic goodness!
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but I know why Hollywood makes movies; because they make profits; they are happy with Miller for the Ka-ching that Sin City and 300 brought in and they want more of the same, so if it's a thoughtful, satirical feminine romance, expect some studio-based changes and more declaiming and muscle.
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Quentin Tarantino directing "Hardboiled"...
With Miller on set as assistant director, to learn the craft. Miller co-directs Robocop vs Terminator with someone competent and prestigious, let's say Verhoven (sp?). Then when Miller has some cred, he solo directs Daredevil, taking his career full circle. Spielberg produces a huge budget CGI epic "Big Guy Vs. Rusty The Boy Robot" based on the comic, not the animated series. Giant robots flying straight through the skulls of city crushing demon dinosaurs. Bichen! That plans out Millers next ten years, and in his copious spare time he plots and doodles layouts for a series of graphic novels that Eddie Campbell, Garth Ennis and Kevin Smith script, Campbell, Dave Gibbons and Geoff Darrow pencil and Klaus Janson inks, with Lynn Varley coloring, published by the Dark Horse legends imprint. This gives him his next decades worth of material. Once those movies get made he's old and retires, turning out one major graphic novel he draws himself every other year or so ala Eisner and directing a quirky personal movie every five years ala Altman until he's ninety-five. *** So remind me, why was Robocop II the first half of a continued s story that Robocop III had nothing to do with?.
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