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AICN BOOKS! Moriarty Learns A Lot About THE MAKING OF STAR WARS!!

I can’t believe how much work I have to do right now. It’s sort of amazing. I’m not stressed anymore; I’ve passed into a state of constant bemusement by now. There is not an hour of my day right now that’s not accounted for. And even so, there are certain things that leapfrog right past everything else in terms of priority.

Such was the case with THE MAKING OF STAR WARS for me over the last few days. The book actually showed up here at the house about two weeks ago, and I started flipping through it right away. It’s a great cover:






And honestly, when I got it, I thought it would be one of those STAR WARS books you can flip through and dip in and out of and just keep as occasional reference/fanboy porn. For example, I was given a gift recently that was sort of amazing, a giant 20 pound red box with inlaid pieces of the Millennium Falcon on the cover. It’s some super-deluxe version of a package called SCULPTING A GALAXY: INSIDE THE STAR WARS MODEL SHOP, and it’s filled with some pretty cool photos for the hardcore FX geek side of me. It’s a good book. Not a great book. But the package overall sort of makes up for it. That’s more than a coffee-table book; that’s full-blown nerd furniture.






But this book by J.W. Rinzler... wow. This is a book I’ve always wanted, but I never realized I was missing it until I started reading. This was supposed to be published in connection to the release of the first STAR WARS back in 1977. It was a project spearheaded by Charles Lippincott, a v.p. of merchandising and publicity for 20th Century Fox. He conducted exhaustive interviews, many of them before the film ever opened.

If you’re a life-long STAR WARS fan, you know that the story of how that first film was made is almost a myth unto itself now, and there are all sorts of legends that have been embellished, many of which were no doubt encouraged by Lucas himself. Here... finally... is an impeccably written and researched look at the way it really happened, removed of all myth-making, step by arduous step.

This is a book that George Lucas lovers and haters alike will offer as proof of everything they feel about him, and that’s the way it should be. This is an unbiased picture, or as much of one as is possible. Rinzler obviously loves the STAR WARS films, but he doesn’t write as a gushing fan. He writes with a clear eye, and he knows how to tell the story. It’s engaging, detailed, very entertaining. This is, aside from its value to me as a piece of STAR WARS history, a really well-written book, and that is almost unheard of in the behind-the-scenes publishing world. Most making-of books are interesting primarily if you’re a film geek and you want to know more. Sometimes, they are something greater, and I’ve noticed that most of the ones that eventually win acclaim are for disastrous productions. It’s rare that you get a picture of the controlled chaos that goes into also creating a classic, a movie that connects with people on a chemical level. When you look at the chain of events and decisions that it took for STAR WARS to become STAR WARS, it is a potent lesson of the one thing I know to be absolutely, unquestionably true about Hollywood: it is a goddamn miracle that anyone ever makes any films that are worth watching at all. There are a million ways for a film to not work, but it seems like for the great movies, here is only one way it could possibly have worked.

This book would make a great companion piece to Laurent Bouzereau’s THE ANNOTATED SCREENPLAY, which is an awesome reference source, but not as much of a great read on its own. Bouzereau is preaching to the converted; Rinzler’s book traces the process by which the film managed to convert anyone in the first place. The book starts with an introduction by Peter Jackson that speaks directly to a generation that was driven movie-crazy by their first exposure to STAR WARS. Then there’s a brief description by Rinzler of just how he came across the Lippincott interviews while he was working on the making-of book for REVENGE OF THE SITH.

Among those who were interviewed by Lippincott were Gary Kurtz, George Lucas, Alan Dean Foster, John Dykstra, Gilbert Taylor, Robert Watts, Stuart Freeborn, John Stears, John Barry, Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Anthony Daniels, John Williams, Paul Hirsch, Joe Johnston, Ben Burtt, Ralph McQuarrie, Marcia Lucas, Alan Ladd Jr., Richard Edlund, Harrison Ellenshaw, Dennis Muren, and more. The book starts tracing the development of the idea in 1968, and chapter one goes all the way through 1973. The really heavy lifting, where Lucas first cracked the piece, takes place in chapter two, from August 1973 to January 1975. In a sense, this is the most creative Lucas has ever been regarding the series. During that time, he was just writing and writing and writing, trying to figure out what story he was telling and what characters he wanted to use.

That vision starts to come into focus in chapter three, between January and August of 1975, when Lucas meets Ralph McQuarrie, whose paintings are such a major part of the look and feel of the STAR WARS universe. He was actually doing some concept art for Hal Barwood and Matthew Robbins for a SF film they never ended up making, and Lucas saw the art and hired him. What I love in these early chapters is watching how the creative team fell together. Each of these people had to contribute some part to the picture that was starting to come together, and with each person who understood what Lucas was talking about, STAR WARS inched its way towards reality. Chapter Five, “Purgatory,” traces the period from September to December 1975, when Fox put the entire project on hold because they had yet to finish contract negotiations and they were no longer willing to spend any money until they could vote on whether or not they were going to make the film. LUCKY LADY, an expensive bomb by Stanley Donen, almost hobbled the film because Fox lost money on that, and the production model for STAR WARS was much the same, with an independently-minded director and a potentially-expensive movie that seemed to get more expensive every day.

The book details the way money was spent on the film, and the numbers seem scrupulously honest. It’s amazing to read how (relatively) little they spent on this film when you consider how ground-breaking it was. It may have seemed like a huge gamble at the time, but even adjusting for inflation, it seems to me like it was a fairly responsible budget for a film of this kind of ambition.

There have been so many stories told about the casting of the film that I assumed I’d heard them all. But again... this is all information that was fresh when Lippincott did these interviews, so there are things here that I assume have just been forgotten or ignored in the years since. I’m fascinated by the various ways Lucas considered putting his cast together. At one point, he wanted Toshiro Mifune to play Obi-Wan in Japanese, with subtitles, and he was going to cast the Princess as Japanese, too. If he did that, though, he wanted a black Han Solo, and at one point, Laurence Hilton-Jacobs (Freddie “Boom Boom” Washington from WELCOME BACK KOTTER) was the front-runner.

Finally, with Chapter Seven, principal photography begins in Tunisia. The film walks through the production day by day from that point forward, and here’s where Rinzler really turns this into a compelling narrative. Even though we know what happened to the film once it was released, he manages to paint the entire production as barely-controlled chaos, and he goes a great job of allowing you to understand just how much compromise went into getting the story onscreen. One thing that really surprised me was learning that the decision to “kill” Obi-Wan wasn’t made until they were already shooting. Near the end of the Tunisia shoot, Lucas takes Alec Guinness aside to tell him about his new plan, and when they all return to England, Guinness briefly considers dropping out of the film, disappointed and feeling like his role had been reduced for no reason. After a lunch meeting with Lucas, though, Guinness realized that the early exit from the film actually gave Kenobi a mythic status that couldn’t be matched by just standing around while other people were involved in heroics. The self-sacrifice convinced him, and I can’t imagine the film without it.

Every sequence in the movie is broken down so you can see what days something was shot, what shots were accomplished each day. It’s amazing how fast Lucas shot considering the near-constant challenge of the robots not working or costumes not being ready or aliens not being fully designed. It’s little wonder Lucas didn’t direct again for sixteen years after this film. It must have felt like dying from a million papercuts, each delivered someplace extra-painful. All the stuff about the way English crews would schedule a day thanks to union rules echo the frustration I’ve heard James Cameron faced when he shot ALIENS. It didn’t help that you had all sorts of costumed characters who took time to make up before each shot, each one complicated in a totally different way.

What comes through clearly in much of the book is just how crucial chemistry was between the key cast members, and just how lucky Lucas got. Harrison Ford may have been given the role of Han Solo reluctantly by Lucas, who was determined not to use anyone from AMERICAN GRAFITTI in the film, but Ford proved to be an invaluable presence on-set, helping keep things light and also showing Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill just how to handle Lucas’s tricky dialogue.

Chapter Ten, once principal photography is complete, is fascinating in a whole new way as Lucas turns his full attention to post-production. The birth of ILM is covered here in every excruciating detail, and once again, Rinzler’s work is impeccably researched and compellingly presented. Each problem that comes up has to be solved, and it’s the process that I’m so impressed by. Even though I read everything I could get my hands on about the making of STAR WARS at the time, there’s still so much new information here that I feel like I’ll have to read it again just to absorb it all.

I never knew that the film could have had a G rating if Lucas had wanted it. The MPAA was split when they voted, and they offered the choice to the studio: G or PG. It was Fox that decided to take the stricter rating because they were worried about reactions if they didn’t. Looking at reprints from VARIETY about the weekend box-office for that first legendary Memorial Day, I see that STAR WARS was up against THE GREATEST, ANNIE HALL, ROCKY, AUDREY ROSE, THE CAR, DAY OF THE ANIMALS, SMOKEY & THE BANDIT, CROSS OF IRON, and more, and the book does a great job of evoking what it was like to see the movie with that first wave of crowds, what it was like to be part of that instant phenomenon.

If you buy the softcover edition of the book, you’ll get 307 great pages, but if you spring for the hardcover deluxe edition, you’ll also get “The Complete Alex Tavoularis Storyboards,” which are beautiful, “The Complete Ivor Beddoes Storyboards,” also invaluable, “Selected Joe Johnston Storyboards,” and “George Lucas Expands His Universe,” which may be the single most interesting chapter in the entire book. When the film started to make money, the demand for more STAR WARS was instantaneous. Alan Dean Foster, who ghost-wrote the novelization for the film, was contracted to write a sequel. Marvel was gearing up a comic book series. More merchandising deals were being set up every day. Lucas realized he needed to get all of his ideas for the rest of his universe down on paper, and to do so, he worked with Carol Titelman, his secretary, role-playing as different characters to establish back-story, much of which I’ve never heard anywhere. Keep in mind, all of this stuff was created in mid-to-late 1977, so these are his earliest thoughts. It is amazing what he held onto when eventually telling more stories himself and what he discarded. All told, you’re looking at fifty extra pages of material, all of which seems to me to be worth it.

This is, simply put, the best way a STAR WARS fan can hope to celebrate the 30th anniversary of this film this May. Imagine... there’s still more to learn about this production. When I hear the moronic fanboy mantra, “George Lucas raped my childhood,” the reason it strikes me as such a ridiculous pose to strike is because it’s simply not true. George Lucas set out to make a film that would give children a chance to dream about something besides police dramas and sports figures. He looked around at the landscape of films being made at the time and realized that no one was creating the sort of escapist fare he’d grown up on, and he set out to do exactly that. George Lucas gave me my childhood, and no modern films can ever take that away from me or ruin those memories. Digging through this fantastic book, I found myself transported back to that summer, excited once again by the dream that these amazing artists and craftsmen all shared.



Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles

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Nice book
by jimmy_009
Apr 25th, 2007
12:53:30 AM
Jimmy...
by TheRealMoriarty
Apr 25th, 2007
12:56:49 AM
Hey, Drew!
by Participle Snake
Apr 25th, 2007
01:05:01 AM
Does actually sound like an amazing book.
by iamnicksaicnsn
Apr 25th, 2007
01:07:59 AM
HOLY CRAP YOU'RE WRITING THE NEW MK MOVIE???
by iamnicksaicnsn
Apr 25th, 2007
01:12:20 AM
I'd like to find those "lost" interviews with lucas
by TheNorthlander
Apr 25th, 2007
01:12:30 AM
IAmNicks and Participle Snake...
by TheRealMoriarty
Apr 25th, 2007
01:14:47 AM
Mori!
by dirtygoku
Apr 25th, 2007
01:20:11 AM
Thanks for the insight moriarty
by LeviDTinker
Apr 25th, 2007
01:23:26 AM
Thanks for posting something about this, Drew!
by JackLucas
Apr 25th, 2007
01:24:06 AM
DirtyGoku...
by TheRealMoriarty
Apr 25th, 2007
01:30:25 AM
Going to buy it today
by wadi77
Apr 25th, 2007
01:41:18 AM
You summed up my feelings exactly.
by Cotton McKnight
Apr 25th, 2007
01:49:47 AM
Once in a lifetime.....
by mike over joel
Apr 25th, 2007
01:58:48 AM
Lucas going to film this book
by Mr Spork
Apr 25th, 2007
02:04:45 AM
This is how awesome "Star Wars" was...
by Captain Mal
Apr 25th, 2007
02:06:50 AM
Thanks!
by dirtygoku
Apr 25th, 2007
02:14:11 AM
Captain Panaka
by BNITT
Apr 25th, 2007
02:44:25 AM
Finally, something to spend those book tokens on
by Lone Fox
Apr 25th, 2007
03:08:18 AM
Man...
by kwisatzhaderach
Apr 25th, 2007
03:13:20 AM
The Movies didn't get old.....I did
by ilander66
Apr 25th, 2007
03:20:56 AM
Great review
by alfiemoon
Apr 25th, 2007
03:26:22 AM
I was born few weeks after Star Wars
by wadi77
Apr 25th, 2007
03:28:41 AM
My God, thirty years! Man was 1977 magical.
by Lezbo Milk
Apr 25th, 2007
03:41:32 AM
Ilander...
by TheRealMoriarty
Apr 25th, 2007
03:42:03 AM
I was 7 when Star Wars came out......
by RighteousBrother
Apr 25th, 2007
03:43:59 AM
Empire's Revelation
by RighteousBrother
Apr 25th, 2007
03:48:23 AM
Great book
by George Peppard
Apr 25th, 2007
03:55:02 AM
Hear hear Mori.
by raw_bean
Apr 25th, 2007
03:57:39 AM
Drew, geat review!
by Charlie & Tex
Apr 25th, 2007
04:02:46 AM
Lezbo Milk
by Horace Cox
Apr 25th, 2007
04:12:49 AM
George Lucas disappointed me based on the expectations
by ilander66
Apr 25th, 2007
04:14:50 AM
Indeed, Lucas lucked out with those three...
by WONKABAR
Apr 25th, 2007
04:18:44 AM
Jeezus Mori!
by half vader
Apr 25th, 2007
04:24:31 AM
Someone get my keys and hand me some cash...
by LordEnigma
Apr 25th, 2007
04:48:39 AM
That cover...
by MaxTheSilent
Apr 25th, 2007
04:50:58 AM
Yeah...
by Redfive!
Apr 25th, 2007
05:12:47 AM
George Lucas raped my postal service
by BannedOnTheRun
Apr 25th, 2007
05:30:29 AM
Can't wait
by Shawn F.
Apr 25th, 2007
05:44:37 AM
So what happened to Lippencott's interviews etc?
by TomBodet
Apr 25th, 2007
07:07:33 AM
Greatest movie theater experience ever
by ATARI
Apr 25th, 2007
07:26:24 AM
So, this is how we celebrate 30 years? With a book?
by YackBacker
Apr 25th, 2007
07:35:49 AM
I was graduating from college in a few days...
by Moonwatcher
Apr 25th, 2007
07:38:35 AM
Moonwatcher, I believe Marcia Lucas became very rich
by YackBacker
Apr 25th, 2007
07:42:01 AM
The OT generation still lives on
by colivo
Apr 25th, 2007
08:00:05 AM
Episodes I-III: How I Raped America's Children
by uss cygnus
Apr 25th, 2007
08:02:26 AM
Nasty rumor
by 5thBusiness
Apr 25th, 2007
08:16:37 AM
Awesome! Just ordered it from Amazon
by Trazadone
Apr 25th, 2007
08:21:21 AM
FREDDIE "BOOM BOOM" WASHINGTON SHOOTS FIRST !
by Pound Sand
Apr 25th, 2007
08:21:40 AM
Sounds great!
by Talkbacker with no name
Apr 25th, 2007
08:25:22 AM
My God, thirty years! Man was 1977 magical.
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 25th, 2007
08:33:02 AM
Another good name for Gen-X: the OT generation
by durhay
Apr 25th, 2007
08:36:19 AM
I remember
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 25th, 2007
08:38:38 AM
I saw it at a drive in in 77 at age 3
by MJAYACE
Apr 25th, 2007
08:40:25 AM
Lucas should have never changed the OT movies
by colivo
Apr 25th, 2007
09:12:09 AM
5thBusiness
by Boromir187
Apr 25th, 2007
09:13:53 AM
George Lucas Saved my Childhood
by JacksParasites
Apr 25th, 2007
09:34:29 AM
Raped your childhood?
by Evil_Imp
Apr 25th, 2007
09:37:15 AM
Jar Jar in Cabonite
by ilander66
Apr 25th, 2007
09:41:32 AM
No, really. Get this book.
by Scorpio
Apr 25th, 2007
10:10:38 AM
george lucas MADE my childhood!
by LegoKenobi
Apr 25th, 2007
10:44:17 AM
I don't care how much it will cost, I'm so getting this
by Mr_Incredible
Apr 25th, 2007
11:02:49 AM
This book IS Star Wars --
by VaderSabre
Apr 25th, 2007
11:06:34 AM
It's the Falcon...
by Billyeveryteen
Apr 25th, 2007
11:27:42 AM
I saw Star Wars in a drive in w/ My Bodyguard
by kinghenryVIII
Apr 25th, 2007
11:39:53 AM
The PT should have been made to be watched after the OT
by colivo
Apr 25th, 2007
11:42:54 AM
Snaggletooh had a hump!
by Boba Fat
Apr 25th, 2007
12:04:18 PM
kinghenryVIII
by stabbim
Apr 25th, 2007
12:21:25 PM
ATTN: MY STAR WARS FAN FILM
by bubcus
Apr 25th, 2007
12:37:29 PM
Childhood Rapers!
by Dr Dischord
Apr 25th, 2007
01:02:03 PM
"never seen Darth Vader anywhere...
by DocPazuzu
Apr 25th, 2007
01:02:07 PM
I Went In Hopeful to AOTC & Apathetic to ROTS...
by uss cygnus
Apr 25th, 2007
01:11:14 PM
Held on to my
by skimn
Apr 25th, 2007
01:13:55 PM
I'd rather just watch the movie again
by Rupee88
Apr 25th, 2007
01:21:00 PM
And Lucas got lucky with Star Wars
by Rupee88
Apr 25th, 2007
01:22:11 PM
Very Messy Messi
by ilander66
Apr 25th, 2007
01:23:53 PM
I love Star Wars!!!
by GravyAkira
Apr 25th, 2007
01:24:24 PM
JacksP: The animus for ROTS floors me
by deathbird
Apr 25th, 2007
01:24:44 PM
ROTS IS OVERRATED!!!!!!!
by colivo
Apr 25th, 2007
01:41:35 PM
Sith is good. C'mon quite yer bitching.
by TomBodet
Apr 25th, 2007
01:50:05 PM
Amazon's got the hardcover cheap
by rev_skarekroe
Apr 25th, 2007
02:15:02 PM
Hear, Hear, Colivo...
by uss cygnus
Apr 25th, 2007
02:33:55 PM
Colivo
by deathbird
Apr 25th, 2007
02:53:25 PM
I'm totally getting this book.
by Flim Springfield
Apr 25th, 2007
04:11:14 PM
Obi Wan is still...
by Childe Roland
Apr 25th, 2007
04:24:31 PM
Show us CHEWBACCA'S HAIRY TAINT!
by Dorothys Taint Again
Apr 25th, 2007
05:00:45 PM
LUCAS HAS A BEER AND CHEETS ON SW FRANCHISE
by Dorothys Taint Again
Apr 25th, 2007
05:02:01 PM
Childe...
by TheRealMoriarty
Apr 25th, 2007
05:25:32 PM
Robot Chicken SW Spoof?
by finky089
Apr 25th, 2007
05:33:47 PM
Mori, will you ever have your childhood cherry popped?
by finky089
Apr 25th, 2007
05:40:07 PM
Rupee88
by Mr_Incredible
Apr 25th, 2007
05:40:39 PM
this isn't hyperbole, George Lucas actually molested me
by newc0253
Apr 25th, 2007
05:53:44 PM
I still love SW.
by Rakafraker
Apr 25th, 2007
06:00:19 PM
I agree about the hyperbole...
by SK229
Apr 25th, 2007
07:03:12 PM
Star Wars remains the best proof
by The Decider
Apr 25th, 2007
07:14:51 PM
wow, The Decider..
by Cotton McKnight
Apr 25th, 2007
08:02:00 PM
SK229 nice post
by finky089
Apr 25th, 2007
08:40:03 PM
Re: The 'Sculpting SW' book...
by NNNOOO!!!
Apr 25th, 2007
08:41:46 PM
One way to make ROTJ better!
by Phillyflopper
Apr 25th, 2007
09:31:36 PM
HARRISON FORD SMASH!!!
by THEE Miracleman
Apr 25th, 2007
09:38:14 PM
JACK KIRBY.....Jack Kirby...Jack Kirby....JACK KIRBY
by CarmillaVonDoom
Apr 25th, 2007
09:39:25 PM
Oh Yeah...Star Wars 1977...NEW GODS February 1971
by CarmillaVonDoom
Apr 25th, 2007
09:41:35 PM
DIEHARD FAN
by TiNSeLToWN TeRRoR
Apr 25th, 2007
10:08:00 PM
I wonder when geekboys are going to stop using rape
by Bronx Cheer
Apr 25th, 2007
10:17:18 PM
I was almost 16 when I saw it at the drive-in
by Bronx Cheer
Apr 25th, 2007
10:24:17 PM
I was almost 16 when I saw it at the drive-in
by Bronx Cheer
Apr 25th, 2007
10:24:24 PM
Does Lucas finally give credit to Frank Herbert?
by Gorrister
Apr 25th, 2007
11:12:59 PM
"Sith" was adequate
by Gorrister
Apr 25th, 2007
11:20:03 PM
Full Armor against a Hot Fudge Sundae
by Lobanhaki
Apr 25th, 2007
11:40:05 PM
They'll be back before you can spit!
by Captain Mal
Apr 26th, 2007
12:34:00 AM
credit to Frank Herbert?
by newc0253
Apr 26th, 2007
04:03:16 AM
30th Anniversary?
by mooli
Apr 26th, 2007
04:38:04 AM
the star wars..
by nolan bautista
Apr 26th, 2007
04:53:00 AM
Treat Williams in Substitute II: School's Out...
by IG76
Apr 26th, 2007
05:17:11 AM
A very well written article
by Razorback
Apr 26th, 2007
06:00:02 AM
@half vader
by UltraMeerkat
Apr 26th, 2007
06:20:50 AM
yo BSB!
by YackBacker
Apr 26th, 2007
07:02:35 AM
Why is everyone psychoanalyzed for not liking the PT?
by colivo
Apr 26th, 2007
07:56:09 AM
At least SUPERMAN IV had a plot.....Kasdan is STAR WARS
by IG76
Apr 26th, 2007
08:29:13 AM
Moriarty
by Darth Busey
Apr 26th, 2007
09:00:42 AM
I find it hilarious
by kwisatzhaderach
Apr 26th, 2007
09:32:49 AM
The Red Book (Sculpting A Galaxy)
by Motoko Kusanagi
Apr 26th, 2007
09:37:52 AM
Fuck Star Wars - Raiders! Empire was THE ONLY
by kinghenryVIII
Apr 26th, 2007
10:14:42 AM
TiNSeLToWN TeRRoR
by one9deuce
Apr 26th, 2007
11:17:12 AM
30 years ago my father too me to the movies.
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Apr 26th, 2007
11:29:50 AM
"Took me" --- TB's need an edit button.
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Apr 26th, 2007
11:35:05 AM
When Jar-Jar arrived...
by Billyeveryteen
Apr 26th, 2007
11:36:01 AM
Messi - your ROTJ question
by Caped Revenger2
Apr 26th, 2007
12:10:23 PM
You bastard, Drew.
by Turd Furgusen
Apr 26th, 2007
12:32:41 PM
Believe It Or Not, STAR WARS Was Once Cool....
by Buzz Maverik
Apr 26th, 2007
12:47:08 PM
Lucas Really Doesn't Need To Credit His Inspirations...
by Buzz Maverik
Apr 26th, 2007
01:01:51 PM
Messi
by Caped Revenger2
Apr 26th, 2007
01:38:15 PM
Heck SW was 'cool' just 10 years back.
by TomBodet
Apr 26th, 2007
01:38:47 PM
The Secret History of Star Wars
by Vadakin
Apr 26th, 2007
01:40:49 PM
I Heard Stallone Was Once A Contender For Han Solo...
by Buzz Maverik
Apr 26th, 2007
01:42:56 PM
How I would've done the Prequels
by Darth Busey
Apr 26th, 2007
02:09:30 PM
Darth Busey
by Vadakin
Apr 26th, 2007
02:33:53 PM
Also...
by Vadakin
Apr 26th, 2007
02:43:44 PM
Messi
by Vadakin
Apr 26th, 2007
02:48:56 PM
Sith=Shit
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 26th, 2007
02:52:09 PM
Original Outline for "The Star Wars"
by Vadakin
Apr 26th, 2007
03:03:42 PM
Vadakin
by Darth Busey
Apr 26th, 2007
03:04:07 PM
Ok then Messi...
by Vadakin
Apr 26th, 2007
03:32:15 PM
WTF Ultrameerkat?
by half vader
Apr 26th, 2007
03:37:44 PM
Busey
by Vadakin
Apr 26th, 2007
03:48:02 PM
Jurassic Park
by Vadakin
Apr 26th, 2007
03:50:04 PM
Anakin is not happy about killing children
by Razorback
Apr 26th, 2007
03:51:53 PM
The Most Overrated Franchise In Film History?
by Rebeck2
Apr 26th, 2007
04:50:16 PM
Reveiwing tax code is a shitty way to start...
by Billyeveryteen
Apr 26th, 2007
04:53:06 PM
The Dr. Zhivago love triangle is a good one
by Caped Revenger2
Apr 26th, 2007
05:26:49 PM
Vadakin
by one9deuce
Apr 26th, 2007
05:47:48 PM
half vader
by one9deuce
Apr 26th, 2007
05:50:22 PM
A long time ago . . . Lucas once said that the prequels
by Moa Kaka
Apr 26th, 2007
06:41:44 PM
Carmilla
by Shaner Jedi
Apr 26th, 2007
06:45:01 PM
Are these movies worth this much effort anymore?
by WhoDis
Apr 26th, 2007
07:42:42 PM
RE: "George Lucas Raped My Childhood"
by CondomWrapper
Apr 26th, 2007
07:51:53 PM
Messi
by Vadakin
Apr 26th, 2007
08:10:25 PM
On page 50 now
by wadi77
Apr 26th, 2007
10:42:06 PM
Were we watching the same films, CapedRevenger?
by deathbird
Apr 26th, 2007
11:22:35 PM
Actually I agree...
by Vadakin
Apr 27th, 2007
09:08:58 AM
ROTJ rules
by Vadakin
Apr 27th, 2007
10:00:03 AM
I've typed this before but...
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
10:50:07 AM
And I forgot to be rude about
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
10:51:29 AM
Why Anakin killing Younglings in ROTS is jarring
by colivo
Apr 27th, 2007
11:13:41 AM
Hayden Christensen ruined it all
by Epictetus
Apr 27th, 2007
11:24:52 AM
re: Lost Prophet
by Rendell
Apr 27th, 2007
11:28:57 AM
If you are wondering that then
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
11:31:05 AM
re Rendell/
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
11:32:22 AM
mind you I did fall asleep
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
11:33:26 AM
Lost Prophet
by Rendell
Apr 27th, 2007
11:35:26 AM
I know it is the point.
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
11:38:14 AM
I don't blame Jake Lloyd
by Epictetus
Apr 27th, 2007
11:48:50 AM
I know!
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
11:51:00 AM
Exactly
by Vadakin
Apr 27th, 2007
11:53:17 AM
Ugh
by Epictetus
Apr 27th, 2007
11:55:01 AM
There was politics in the original
by Vadakin
Apr 27th, 2007
11:59:23 AM
Qui Gon instructs Yoda
by Rendell
Apr 27th, 2007
12:02:36 PM
The Force Ghost
by Vadakin
Apr 27th, 2007
12:04:41 PM
Again, everyone seems to be missing my point
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
12:05:38 PM
Lost Prophet
by Rendell
Apr 27th, 2007
12:06:46 PM
Liam Neeson...
by Vadakin
Apr 27th, 2007
12:07:44 PM
BTW, a disclaimer and on politics
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
12:08:12 PM
rendell-
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
12:14:14 PM
Fair enough
by Rendell
Apr 27th, 2007
12:16:42 PM
Lost Prophet
by Vadakin
Apr 27th, 2007
12:17:40 PM
The point remains that you can be machiavellian
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
12:23:40 PM
Hayden as a force ghost is the worst change!
by colivo
Apr 27th, 2007
12:29:44 PM
The nature of the Republic:
by Vadakin
Apr 27th, 2007
12:35:54 PM
Clones is awful for many reasons
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
12:37:16 PM
I prefer my Star Wars to be
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 27th, 2007
12:38:21 PM
I know that it is not a monarchy
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
12:40:49 PM
Will the book finally reveal
by BillyPilgrim
Apr 27th, 2007
12:46:33 PM
Deathbird
by Caped Revenger2
Apr 27th, 2007
12:46:34 PM
No, I get you dude
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
12:48:52 PM
Also, I never felt sorry for the little twat
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
12:49:34 PM
Sounds very interesting
by Vadakin
Apr 27th, 2007
12:53:10 PM
Fighting with the clones?
by Epictetus
Apr 27th, 2007
12:56:27 PM
I was 19 when I saw it. So don't give me that.
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
12:58:53 PM
Uh...
by Vadakin
Apr 27th, 2007
01:01:06 PM
or I may have been 20
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
01:03:33 PM
No I didn't. At all.
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
01:07:13 PM
Clone Wars
by Vadakin
Apr 27th, 2007
01:13:27 PM
It wasn't a disappointment at the time either
by Vadakin
Apr 27th, 2007
01:25:45 PM
All I'm saying is....
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 27th, 2007
01:27:10 PM
Epictetus
by stabbim
Apr 27th, 2007
01:27:59 PM
It is in need of the fucking bin
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
01:32:14 PM
stabbim
by Epictetus
Apr 27th, 2007
01:44:40 PM
Vadakin
by Rendell
Apr 27th, 2007
01:48:16 PM
ye gods
by Lost Prophet
Apr 27th, 2007
01:54:20 PM
Epictetus
by stabbim
Apr 27th, 2007
02:07:23 PM
Agreed
by Epictetus
Apr 27th, 2007
03:15:15 PM
And as for the worst Star Wars plot hole ever...
by Epictetus
Apr 27th, 2007
03:20:45 PM
RETURN OF THE JEDI
by one9deuce
Apr 27th, 2007
03:24:19 PM
Link to Amazon.com!!
by DJLetterbox
Apr 27th, 2007
04:40:38 PM
Yeah, the PT was half assed
by SithMenace
Apr 27th, 2007
06:03:04 PM
Lucas raped my pocket book...
by Mace Tofu
Apr 27th, 2007
10:45:59 PM
CapedRevenger
by deathbird
Apr 27th, 2007
11:24:29 PM
Moriarty
by wanna_bannana
Apr 28th, 2007
12:08:05 AM
Don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet...
by TiVo1138
Apr 28th, 2007
02:31:10 AM
Anakins redemption does not sit well with me now
by colivo
Apr 28th, 2007
06:39:12 AM
JUST GOT THIS BOOK IN THE MAIL 10 MIN. AGO
by YackBacker
Apr 28th, 2007
09:16:56 AM
(snap..hiss) Holy shit - his lightsaber is green!!
by Mel Garga
Apr 28th, 2007
10:29:49 AM
gany, normally I agree that Lucas is a money-whore
by YackBacker
Apr 28th, 2007
12:14:12 PM
Agreed. We shouldn't have seen Anakin's spirit.
by deathbird
Apr 28th, 2007
12:40:47 PM
RE: ROTJ remake
by deathbird
Apr 28th, 2007
06:51:08 PM
Obi-Wan's death
by MrMojok
Apr 28th, 2007
09:11:31 PM
Get hardcovert for $35 shipped...
by LeeLuDallasMultiPass
Apr 28th, 2007
11:58:19 PM
AOTC barely edges out JEDI
by deathbird
Apr 29th, 2007
11:46:28 AM
Conan O'Brien is going to see Lucas' ranch this week.
by BrokenHeath
Apr 29th, 2007
02:28:45 PM
Thank You George Lucas!
by dioxholster
Apr 30th, 2007
06:48:46 AM
Vadakin, the PT story was there
by colivo
Apr 30th, 2007
07:12:35 AM
George Lucas created an EPIC
by United States
Apr 30th, 2007
10:14:41 AM
US, it is the treatment of the OOT that bothers fans
by colivo
Apr 30th, 2007
11:04:46 AM
Who first used the phrase, "Raped my childhood"?
by biggsdarklighter
Apr 30th, 2007
01:47:29 PM
biggsdarklighter
by one9deuce
Apr 30th, 2007
03:17:12 PM
I said "Gret" didn't I?
by dioxholster
Apr 30th, 2007
03:22:39 PM
one9deuce
by biggsdarklighter
Apr 30th, 2007
05:21:28 PM
biggsdarklighter, you wrote:
by one9deuce
Apr 30th, 2007
09:59:41 PM
one9duece
by biggsdarklighter
May 1st, 2007
12:21:06 PM
biggsdarklighter
by one9deuce
May 1st, 2007
01:57:31 PM
one9deuce...
by Orcus
May 1st, 2007
08:44:20 PM

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