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Okay... So Will Stan Lee Also Be A Cloud In FANTASTIC FOUR 2?!
Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.
You know what? At this point, I’m willing to sit back and not say another word about FANTASTIC FOUR. I think it’s fucking hilarious that every time we print everything, Fox scrambles to put out spin with other outlets within 24 hours. It’s easy to lie when you’re Fox, and it’s easy to say, “Nuh-uh!” when no one’s seen your film.
So how about we just reserve all judgment until the film opens. And then we can all come back here and decide if Fox really was making a film that will “please all the fans,” or if they’re pulling the same exact shit they always pull and then lying just long enough to preserve that opening weekend.
In the meantime, here’s the only thing I think anyone really cares about with this film:
Hi Drew,
I've got some exclusive footage of Stan Lee talking about his upcoming role in the upcoming Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer movie. I don't think Stan's yet publicly talked about the character he's playing, so this should be news.
Stan comes in around the 5:30 mark.
Thanks for your time, Drew!
-Scott
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Yay!
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Yes!
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I have nothing meaningful to say. Only that FF1 was mildly amusing. If FF2 is mildly amusing two, I'm cool.
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We're all banned for saying rude things about Moriarty's hair style. We know how it works here.
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Read it here first!
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...and put invisotext on it. I mean, I had to sit through some of that pitiful excuse for a comics news show just to get the info about Stan's FF: ROTSS cameo.
And maybe it's me, but I would rather see Stan as Willie Lumpkin again instead of as himself crashing the wedding. First Tim Story fucks up Galactus and now Willie Lumpkin! DAMN YOU, TIM STORY!!!
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another Matrix cast-off? it's all the rage this summer. "Misssster Optimus Prime-derson" "Hey Human Torch, Stop trying to Hit me and Hit me!"
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And he should have a cameo as Batman.
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Zombie Bruce, that is. :D
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I don't trust Fox. The fact that they've been so vague adn rushed to give even more vague answers after the could rumor leaked makes me think Galactucus is definitely a crowd, adn Fox knows they're fucked and are panicking as to what to do. I just don't get who thinks this is a good idea? Who goes to bed at night thinking "Hey, that iconic Galactus character, we should not only change his appearance, but make him a completely different state of matter! And a non-threatening one at that! That'll win us some fans! When the fuck will they learn....Sometimes, I hate Hollywood so much.
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They really do not have a good track record lately. Look at what they did for X3. Look at FF1... Fox does NOT know how to do adaptations now. The ONLY reason X1 & X2 turned out the way they did is that Singer cared.
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Apr 20, 2007 11:38:02 PM CDT
I'm scared shitless.. it's either going to rain or...
by boondock devil
... the movie version of Galactus is going to eat the planet.
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So how about let Stan Lee be the voice of Galactus?
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Because seeing Galactus and then having an old jewish guy voice come out of him would seem a bit... strange.
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I thought maybe I'd just go to see the Silver Surfer but after reading about Galactus I'm ready to boycott. Doesn't Stan Lee have a single word in the matter? A cloud? It's frickin clobberin' time!!! Fox, just cede your rights to all Marvel licenses and call it even. Let a real studio work on the hero stuff. Go do another AVP piece of crap! *sigh*
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"Flee! I am indifferent to you, puny True Believers! I shall devour your world so that I may live!"
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Alba. Lycra.Alba. Lycra.Alba. Lycra.Alba. Lycra.Alba. Lycra.Alba. Lycra.Alba. Lycra.Alba. Lycra.Alba. Lycra. Silver surfer. Alba. Lycra.
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You know it would work.
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Incidentaly, and this may have been addressed in "Spider-Man 3" talbacks already but I don't want to read them ahead of seeing the film, shouldn't David Michelinie and Todd McFarlane get credits alongside Stan and Jack in the "Spider-Man 3" opening credits? Didn't they create Venom? And technically, shouldn't Jim Shooter and Mike Zeck get some too, for the Symbiote? This could end up getting ridiculous..
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When most sites would admit they were wrong and jumped the gun on an unsubstantiated rumor, we get, "It’s easy to lie when you’re Fox, and it’s easy to say, “Nuh-uh!” when no one’s seen your film". Well heres a scoop for you asshole, YOU HAVEN"T SEEN IT EITHER!!..You have absolutely no fucking clue as to what Galactus will be...NONE of you do! Why dont the studios just make it easier for all you whining fanboys and just open a website to let you read the scripts and not bother with making a movie. This way no one ever has to go to a theater again and actually enjoy a film with surprises and plot twists....Wouldnt life be sooo much better if we just let a bunch of, "I live in my parents basement" types make all the movie choices on which movie is good and which is bad based on rumors, plants, fuzzy pictures or who was/wasnt nice to Harry and the rest of the AICN staff. I really am surprised that in 2007 that no one gets "DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ" (especially here)....let me conclude by saying, "BITE ME"
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...and there's not much you can do about it. FF1 made money, X3 made money, GHOST RIDER made money. All dumb movies pitched at a wide audience. Joe Public doesn't care what Galactus looks like, and Fox knows that it doesn't have to pander to a specific geek audience . The pity is that it could do thing right, and still make a mass-market flick that turns a healthy dollar. Both BATMAN BEGINS and SUPERMAN RETURNS did just that. Neither film's perfect, but they both at least respect the material and their respective fanbases and make make money too. Bottom line: Fox - blame them. As long as people are paying to see their dumbass FF flicks, and as long as movies like ELEKTRA break even at the box office (worldwide, of not domestic) this will continue.
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Walter Matthau.
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The FOGalactus can't hurt you... it'll KILL YOU!
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Three's Company: The Movie. Nuff Said.
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Though wasn't he already playing Wally Lumpkin the mailman?
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The rhino in "James and the Giant Peach" was a stormy cloud, and it looked great!
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...Or at least he must have after Craptastic Four. I guess that shit sandwich was just the appetizer for the Galactus-size pile of manure we will be expected to smile through while being spoonfed by Fox. Sorry. Not me. I waited for NetFlix to watch that trainwreck, and I'll probably do the same this time around.
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Oh, and I think its pretty clear at this point that Paradox99999 is Tom Rothman.
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Paradox99999 needs a nap and a diaper change.
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to say that Superman Returns is comparable to Batman Begins: "Neither film's perfect, but they both at least respect the material and their respective fanbases and make make money too." SR neither respected the source material NOR the fanbase. All it did was blatantly rip off the '78 Donner film and turn Superman into an ass who knocks up Lois Lane, abandons her and Earth for seven years, stalks her once he finally came back and finds out she's in another relationship and then, upon discovering that he's the real father of her son, says "I'll be around" and flies off! And it DIDN'T make any money: that overpriced monstrosity BARELY broke even. And rightfully so. If it can be compared to ANY Batman film, it would have to be Joel Schumacher's Batman & Robin — which similarly aped the 1966 Batman TV show in its campy tone — NOT Batman Begins, a film which actually REVITALIZED the franchise and brought it back to its dark comic roots.
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the producers of Transformers spin, they get a pass.
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Don Imus will cameo as Thor.
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Yeah, but consider the material. Transformers was just an early/middle '80's half hour toy commercial. The Fantastic Four has been around since the earth was flat; and way before comics and cartoons were created for the sole purpose of selling merchandise.
The way FF is being handled runs a little deeper than how Transformers is being done. Although there are obviously those who care a great deal about Transfromers and what Michael Bay is doing with it. Still FF is a much more long standing property; and its' images are far more iconic. -
I'm not a follower of the FF comic, but I enjoyed the movie as just a fun superhero adventure film. I'd say Hulk was the worst, not because of Ang Lee's direction, which was superb and the most artistic style yet in the comic book films, but just because the writing wasn't interesting. I've never been a Hulk fan anyway. I mean, I like the idea of the Hulk, but he's not a character I can see following from story to story. Maybe the next one will win me over though. Also liked Daredevil, so I guess I'm a minority on these things.
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Obsession with basements?....Good one. I mentioned that twice in how many years? My point was that im sick of people deciding that a movie will be horrible, craptastic, utter shit (or shite to our english friends) and worst ever, wont make a dime based on...(wait for it)... NOTHING. Someone hears a rumor from someones friends next door neighbors kid who thought he heard....etc...etc. Maybe these movies arent perfect (and no I dont work for Marvel....Lord knows I wish I did) and as a lifelong comic fan I wish they didnt stray from the comics and adapted these movies just for me, but, hey thats life. Am I happy about organic web spinners...NO....Did I like a 25 ft. Hulk...NO...Did I like the Punisher in Florida...NO...but, I would rather have these movies made then never to see them at all, and there have been some excellent adaptations. EX: Batman Begins and Sin City. There is no way ever that 100% of every fan is going to agree on a movie. Everyone has their own image in mind of who should play the character, who is the ideal director, what story they should use from the comics, etc. It would just be nice if people waited until at least a trailer (longer than 30 seconds) came out before they start complaining like their life depends on the movie. (Alot of people actually liked the new F4 trailers, including this site...but mention an unsubstantiated cloud rumor and we are back to, "This movie will tank".."This movie will suck!!") You are probably a great example of this. You actually had nothing better to do than to google my name to see how many times i've posted and what I said. I might have actually cared what you had to say if you had offered an opinion, but I guess that type of thought is a lot harder than going to Google. BTW, the post you did refer to was to give my opinion on a poster that sounded like they hadnt even reached the "See Spot...See Spot Run" stage of life in their education. I await for what im sure will be a well thought out response from you...or...you could just wait a month and re-Google my name and copy and paste what
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...was the piece of shit that was FF1 a film that would "please all the fans"?
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... if you genuinely think that all I do is complain about movies, then you don't read this site. I would love nothing more than to love each and every movie I encounter, and to hear only roses and sunshine during each production.
And as far as just picking on Fox goes, they've earned it. It's not about how they do or don't treat me or Harry. I couldn't give less of a shit. It's about how they treat the filmmakers who work for them and the properties they own.
Tom Rothman and Hutch Parker hate movies. And Rupert Murdoch doesn't care. So you have Fox in the hands of a bunch of cretins who would rather pump out GARFIELD sequels and who think Shawn Levy is a "genius" because he'll bend over and grab his ankle whenever they say so.
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... I've said it before: I don't know anything about TRANSFORMERS. I'm not going to pretend I do to write indignant articles about each new development. All I can do is judge the final film as a film.
As far as "getting a pass" goes, look at each and every TRANSFORMERS piece that goes up. Look at the fan response. Does that look like getting a pass to you? You guys and your feedback are part of the site, too. -
Ask a child and you might get that big robed guy with a long white beard image. (Kirby's Odin). An adult who's less certain about pretending to know the unknowable will mumble something about God being "all around" or "an invisible presence" or even a force as opposed to an entity. Ask Jack Kirby and you git a blue and purple giant with a top hat and a huge "G" monogram on his Texan belt buckle. An interesting, colorful comic book image, but would that really work in a live action/CGI movie, or would it seem laughable. As opposed to, say, Galactus as an ethereal, unstoppable, destructive force of nature. Y'know, just askin'. (Okay, "Galactus as God" may not be canon, for obvious reasons of taste and sales, but that was the impression I got when I first read Fantastic four 48-50: The FF versus the most powerful, most unstoppable force in the universe. And I can see that force portrayed as "the heavens" more easily than as some big galloot in a Pope hat.
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I dont think all you do is complain about movies at all. As a matter of fact, I pretty much agree with most of your reviews and opinions...especially what you just wrote. I agree 110% about Tom Rothman and FOX. My rant in all reality really wasnt specifically aimed at you (even though I admit it reads that way and I still dont agree with the way the cloud rumor was handled...but I get hot-headed like everyone else apparently...may be time for me to up the Lithium). It was more for those that will grab onto a rumor and start the whining and complaining immediately. Ive been reading this site religiously for years and I'm still astounded that this is the majority mindset. When it comes to the fanboys im all for lets agree to disagree, provided that the argument is based on fact. Will F42 be great?...I dont know, I have no idea...but...I do know that I havent read nor seen enough yet to form a truly intelligent opinion based on fact. As for your opinion bothering me..not at all...98.9% of the time I look forward to it.
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nooga nooch
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Someone put the links to some Alex Ross art a while back dealing with Galactus and it's a design that was ridiculous and would cause people to pee themselves with laughter if that was brought onto the big screen to begin with but then again, IT'S A COMIC BOOK CHARACTER. I think what FF2 is really about is testing the waters with the Silver Surfer to give him his own series of films.
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You bitch about people whining yet you throw out more crybaby shit than anyone. They can make movies based on the original comic books. They have the technology. Not hard to stay true to that form. I guarantee that the movies would still make money. Hell, I would go see some two or three times at the theater if they would get them right. I know a lot of fans that would. Yet, we get the suits who think they know more than the comic book reading audience. Pretty sad. I bet many have never even read a comic book. Comic fans have a right to bitch as does anyone who wants to see a great adaptation of work hit the big screen. Some of us have treasured what we have read for years and want to see it done fantastic (no pun intended) on the big screen. I think it is sad that they have to pull this shit.
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Couldnt agree with you more!! Except the me throwing out more crybaby shit than anyone, because that was my point....complaining in talkbacks is fine, but just wait until you have enough confirmed written and visual facts before complaining and saying a movie sucks or they raped my childhood. I would kill to have the execs stick to the core material and not deviate...but that just aint gonna happen in the real world. Too many egos at play (directors, writers, useless execs, producers and more useless execs to name a few). I have a great love for and have been collecting comics since I was 9...I have over 32,000 issues in my present collection, soooooo, dont you think I want to see it done perfect for once?????...but...What are we suppose to do?...The complaining doesnt work. If it did (with the advent of the internet) it would have worked by now (not saying that a few properly done complaints havent helped in a minority of cases...Like the campaign to not have Optimus have lips, cuz thats just wrong...horribly horribly wrong)...These are just self-important people in the business that just want a cash cow franchise (plus, and this is not to defend these ruiners of dreams by ANY means, they do have to try for a mass appeal..and a lot of that mass are kids...not every movie goer knows the F4. Its actually only us hard core fans who know the material by heart and that care so deeply....try and explain to a 6 year old why Ghost Rider wasn't as cool as he should have been...or how they should have CGI'ed/not CGI'ed the Thing...they dont care!) So, what's our alternative? Not go to these movies??...What will that prove?...All it will accomplish is that these moron execs will just say, "Ok..the comic book genre movie doesnt work...ummm, lets try westerns again". I would grudgingly rather see a somewhat trampled upon version of comics I love than never see anything at all. Someday, in a perfect world, when the unicorns run wild and there are elves and Hobbits...when they hang the lawyers and studio execs are used for skeet shooting plates thats when we will get the perfectly adapted comic movie.
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except I would hate seeing those trampled upon versions of comic books. I know you don't. I respect that.Yes. I am passionate about superhero movies. Yes. I have bitched before on these boards and shake my head at what Fox or how any other studio handles the comicbooks. I would have no problem with a tweaking here and there of a comic book movie. You have to do that to make that transition from comic to film. I understand that. You are right about jumping to the wrong conclusion. I have done it and probably will as long as crap like this is being filtered from sources. I find myself very passionate about seeing a good F.F. movie. They have been a part of my life for years. I do agree with you on the Hollywood thing. They want money and want it now regardless of the feelings for the "true" fans. Sad but true.
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I really appreciate what you just wrote and wanted to say thanks...and once again we are about 99% on the same page as far as I can tell...and...I can live with that 1% difference because you truly think before you write...A rare quality nowdays and I look forward to more intelligent debates with you in the future...You are DEFINITELY one of the good guys.
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The novelization features a sinister cloud that is clearly NOT even SUPPOSED to be Galactus at all, no mention of this hard, factual evidence to the contrary is made anywhere on the site.
I'm catching a feint whiff of... ah, what is that scent? Ah yes... bullshit. -
... that Fantastic Four 2 was going to be any good, did you? Was Fantastic Four 1 any good? Sure, it wasn't the worst superhero movie when compared to such stinkers as Elektra, Daredevil and Hulk... but come on! Some of you out there really liked the first one? Or thought the sequel would be any good?! I expect absolutely nothing from this movie... going to see it, it'll be fun... but do i give a shit if Galactus is a cloud? No. Why? Because the movie is going to be a shitty movie anyway.
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First of all the whole premise is just silly but Galactus as a human makes the whole thing even sillier. They had to do something to not make it look totally gay and I think portraying him as some kind of force of nature is about the only thing they could do. And V'ger was a cloud and it kicked all holy ass.
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I was originally against having a giant wearing a ridiculous purple helmet appearing at the end to eat the planet. But then I realize that this movie world is populated by characters wearing blue lycra and get around in a flying car while chasing around a complelety nude silver guy on a surf board. I guess I could live with a giant purple-helmeted guy after all.
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I think many people on here underestimate the talkbacks as being nothing more than fanboy and hater input when in fact it can very much predict whether or not a movie is worth its salt. Just by having Fox scramble around to cover their fuckups is a testament to the fact that the Talkbacks and AICN are invaluable sources of consumer reports and reviews of films be it upcoming or in theaters. With that said, I think having Galactus be just a cloud is a kick in the balls to the people who have read and followed the Fantastic Four over the years and even with the Not-so-Fantastic Four sequel (abortion) coming out. Seriously if any of Fox's execs are reading this anser this question: Why do you people keep Tom Rothman as the head of studios? Seriously, the man has made nothing but bad decisions regarding many of Fox 's films but even your own employees are afraid to say anything over fear of being let go with predjudice. The solution? Either delegate Rothman to a lower post or just fire the man. He has no creative wisdom, imposes himself on every film made by Fox and is generally bad for business. You could have made millions more by having another X-Men sequel but the very fact that it was stopped in its tracks by bad decision making clearly tells me that somethig is wrong with the management. Yes it would be an expensive film to make but the profits reaped at the end of the day would be worth it, especially if it is made by a director who understands the history of the book and has some respect for the source material. Now with Fantastic Four, you could have made a lot more money with the last film with a better director, screenwriter, etc. but you chose to go the cheap route and it cost you. Now you're doing it again and I can almost guarantee this movie will be a flop. You heard it here first. Could I do a better job than ol' Tommy Boy? I'm sure when it comes to genre films almost the whole lot of the talkbacks would make the company millions, if not billions.
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That's most likely uttered (stupidly) by Johnny Storm saying something like "It's awfully cloudy today." I can almost guarantee that.
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...Boondock Devil is right--a strict interpretation of Galactus as drawn by Kirby would be laughable. But dammit, surely we can get something that a) isn't a fucking cloud, and b) at least looks a little like the original character design. Maybe a more or less giant human shaped form, composed of light (and yes, purple and blue light), with a head shaped sort of like the original Galactus' helmet?
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...get to the heart of V'Ger, does it turn out to be a space probe from Earth? What a twist that would be!
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Apr 22, 2007 11:23:52 AM CDT
TOA = Turd On Arrival. Nothing to see here folks.
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
Move along.
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http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/ICO/1445003~Clouds-Posters.jpg
looks good!
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http://tinyurl.com/yqmnme Chypes, I'm scared! Maybe FF2 will rock afterall?
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These new pics are amazing. My confidence in the film has been restored! http://tinyurl.com/2emn2d
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http://tinyurl.com/2cqmvf He's like, whoaaaa, mad and stuff.
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http://tinyurl.com/2gzn6b Taking a whizz, no less...
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http://tinyurl.com/25meo9
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http://tinyurl.com/yo3x79 If yo ulook closely, you can see Venom's face in here. Just flip the image, hold it in front of a mirror and yell "Damn you, Michael Bay" at the stroke of midnight under a full moon on Friday the 13th while drinking your gin and juice. Part Deux
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http://tinyurl.com/2csh4d Hey, even world devourers need some R&R.
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Don King's hair IS Galactus and the voice is Mike Tyson. Hmm...
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http://tinyurl.com/26xcqu
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I never said it'd be anything new or exciting. I leave that kind of thing to Harold, Mori, and the gang here.
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When I see a certain geographic location used by 20th century cheap then it becomes clear they are nothing but cheap bastards. They don't even budget enough for the effects. The Fantastic Cheap Four.
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Makes sense. The Torch can just 'Flame On' and light him up.
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I just can't get enough of that quote from Quint's VACANCY review TB
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....I'll be happy.
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Join the fight against giant cloud bull-hooey. add as a friend on myspace.com/galactuswearspurpl epants and my new facebook group (search for galactus)
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