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Chow Yun-Fat drops out of John Woo's Chinese epic RED CLIFF?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Looks like Chow Yun Fat has dropped out of John Woo's RED CLIFF three days into shooting. Whoops.
The flick is a $70 million Chinese movie, the largest budgeted the country has ever produced. It's based on a well known (and 600 year old) novel ROMANCE AND THE THREE KINGDOMS that tells the story of the Han Dynasty during the 2nd and 3rd century.
The script came in really big... looks like a four hour epic as written, but the plan is to KILL BILL it and split it into two parts in Asia, but America's looking at getting the whole enchilada.
This comes only a few weeks after BULLET IN THE HEAD's Tony Leung dropped out.
Bummer... seems like John Woo has stumbled into Terry Gilliam's personal hell. Hopefully they find their footing, yeah?
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that´s sad news. i was so looking forward to see chow and woo working together again.
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Only Ford could do justice to a Han Dynasty flick. I'm not sure how well he speaks Chinese, but since he already understands Wookiee, I figure he'll catch on quickly.
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I was really looking forward to this movie, but with both Chow Yun Fat and Tony Leung out of the movie, I dont even know if I wanna see the film.
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Romance OF the Three Kingdoms, but then again I could be wrong and the movies is not based on the novel by Luó Guànzhōng.
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movie, not movieS. I just love complaining about other peoples typos while making my own...
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With those two gone, my interest has lowered immensely. Oh well
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I've read that the Chinese govt is really pushing for this film to get made so it could coincide with the Olympics (To boost Chinese culture awareness).
But if it doesn't I would love to see all three of these players make a sequel to Hardboiled...or another film in that vein. No more watered down John Woo...a balls to the wall gunplay epic. -
Originally it was rumoured Chow quit because he was not prepared to do the role, and the filmakers were not able to give him the proper time needed to perfect his Mandarin dialogue. (Apparently Chow got the screenplay just one week befor production?) It is also rumoured that Chow is too old for the role. Producer of the film Terence Chang said, Chow left the film because demands Chow and his lawyers made to the studio were not met including a massive down payment for Chow do to the film. GREEDY PIRATE!
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Well is it a good sign your stars are leaving the project? The script must be a stinker even for a Chinese kung-fu flick.
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...sick of these costume kung-fu epics with their beautiful poetic violence? It was a cool change of pace when CT,HD came out, but ever since, I feel like I'm at the ballet.
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I've expecting to see Chow Yun-Fat in this feature, but hey, that's life.
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Nice to see another person with good taste in classic john woo films. Yes, hard boiled, along with the killer, are the greatest action films of all time. Die Hard, the greatest american action film of all time, has absolutely nothing on John Woo at his god-like best. Face/Off was a joke.
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It might not be perfect, but Face/Off is about as good as an action movie is going to get here in the states. Loved since I saw with a packed crowd opening weekend. An American classic I tell you!
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We've been waiting for this reunion for years. What's it gonna take? Jodorowsky and Klein made up. Iran released the hostages. The director's cut of Payback came out. What more can we do to show you two boys? John Woo needs his groove back and Chow Yun Fat is the only guy who MIGHT be able to help him.
Yes, I know, they're doing a sequel to Hard Boiled together, but it's a VIDEO GAME! I don't have a video game machine. I want a god damn movie, please. -
I know what your sayin Vern,but ya gotta admit that gameslookin mighty sweet.I cant imagine what 'unreasonable demands' Chow Yun would make..And I cant understand his unwillingness to commit to a John Woo project,..whom I thought he had faith in.
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I have a distinct feeling we're gonna find out.
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America's getting both movies heavily edited down to one standard length (probably around 2.5 hrs) film. I'll take the "KILL BILL treatment" any day of the week over that bullshit.
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It sucks that Chow's leaving this. Who wasn't looking forward to this reunion? But apparently he's being replaced by "an old friend of John Woo". Who the hell that might be, I have no idea. If Leslie Cheung wasn't dead he'd be my first guess, but he is, in fact, dead. Maybe Jackie Cheung or Simon Yam?
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"Sir, we are being surrounded.."......."Dayyyyyyyyyym!!"
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Apr 17, 2007 5:14:49 PM CDT
USA was going to get short end of the stick. one 2.5 hr
by george newman
I read that in Asia they'd get 2 2hour flicks, while USA get one 2.5 hour flick. We are the ones getting screwed.
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It's one thing when a movie goes forward with everyone attached and then you start hearing bad set reports. But when you have a movie with a monster cast that looks like it's gonna rock, and then those people don't even make it through the first week of filming, that's just sad. Makes me want to go for a walk in the cold rain.
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Main conflict between evil Cao Cao and Liu Bei. Fat's character Zhou is fighting for the third faction that teams up with Liu Bei but by the end of the battle his side gets cut out fo the deal, and they dont get much of the glory. I would have prefered him to play a different character. Sad news about Tony though.
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Truth be told...I'd rather see the return of the Hardboiled John Woo than historical drama John Woo.
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I took "Pre-Modern Chinese Fiction in Translation" this semester. The short stories and novels are fantastic.
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How well does Classical Mandarin translate into English? I have always been leery of reading books in translated to English, not sure I am getting the whole story. Chinese must complicate that factor a hundred fold.
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Tony Jaa can do no wrong!
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I don't read chinese, so i would not be able to judge, however my professor is chinese and he selected the works for us. The text is ver thorough, but the emotion, characterization, thrill and humor are all still entact from what I can tell. The volumes are massive, 3 Kingdoms is in 2 volumes at 1000+ pages with very fine print. Atop the cover of the novel reads "Complete and Unabridged." We also have read a 4 volume set of "Outlaws of the Marsh" which is a little more enjoyable in my opinion--it reads faster-- but 3 Kingdoms is still awesome in its grandiose scale. There are also some great collections of short stories and biographies. Some of the stories are only a paragraph long but they are wonderful. my 3 kingdoms and Outlaws are 2004 and 2003 printing, translated by 1)Moss Roberts and 2)sidney shapiro. the summer is approaching. I'd recommend getting your hands on one or both of these sets.
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this is the exact version of Outlaws http://tinyurl.com/yra4r7
. the 3 kingdoms print at this link is different, but it is still Moss Roberts' translation that i've read http://tinyurl.com/ypvfdn
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I've read that the movie studio thought Chow Yun Fat was demanding too much in his contract. Chow Yun Fat says he's just using his standard "Hollywood" contract terms. Now if you're John Woo, and the actor who you MADE a superstar through your films bails on you a week before production starts, how pissed off are you? Are you going to work with this guy again? I doubt it. Quite sad.
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They should play this new John Woo movie in a double feature with whatever Martin Scorcese does next. Call it "Wash-upHouse" and make a bunch of fake trailers for movies that don't exists. I'm sure Wolfgang Petersen would contribute a good fake washed-up trailer and maybe even get John Carpenter and some other director's who surf their 1980s cred well into the 2000s. The fake trailers could parody the way trailers for washups constantly flash really old crudentials like "From the Director of Scarface"(used to promote The Black Dahlia) or "His best film since GoodFellas"(used to promote Departed).
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considering not one of Woo's american films even holds a candle to HARD BOILED, i was so looking forward to this team up again. this is worst news than The Puff the Magic Galactus Story.
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