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Motherhubbards!! NBC Cancels ANDY BARKER!!
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Bad NBC!! Bad!!
“Andy Barker, P.I.” the best sitcom on network TV, has gotten the axe.
Terrible decision. The brainchild of Conan O’Brien and his former head writer, “Barker” is actually the best sitcom we’ve seen in years. Yes, it struggled in the ratings against behemoths like “CSI” and “Grey’s Anatomy,” but what wouldn’t?
More than any other sitcom on the air, the consistently hilarious “Barker,” in my view, was NBC’s best shot at a building a sleeper franchise, another “Cheers” or “Seinfeld.”
The final two episodes run Saturday.
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Some very funny stuff inside a show with stock characters who weren't too likeable. It would have been nice to give it more of a chance, but I couldn't see it being that big of a hit.
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This is a damn shame. Another original and very funny show bits the dust (others include Greg the Bunny and The Tick) while mindless, uninspired and base sitcoms devoid of any value other than cheap laughs which require no form of brain power continue on and on.
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Herc, what have you been smoking today?
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Poor Andy Richter... :(
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Quick, hide the dull butter knives!
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Andy Richter moves one step closer to being our generation's McLean Stevenson. Someone needs to put him and Bonnie Hunt in a show together.
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The boring, unfunny show was not the best sitcom on TV. Scrubs, The Office and My Name is Earl are all better.
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While I don't think it was the bet sitcom on TV (was it really a sitcom?), I did think it had potential. They definitely didn't give it the chance it deserved. I feel like Andy Richter should be on an ensemble show like 30 Rock. They are trying too hard to make him carry an entire show. Let it be heard far and wide, put Andy Richter on 30 Rock!
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Finally, an NBC sitcom my parents would sit and watch with me. Finally a funny premise that's consistantly taken advantage of. Finally an hilarious cast of characters! WHY NBC WHY?
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I love conan. I love Andy Richter. I love tony Hale. But this was not a good show. I liked the sensiblity and the willingness to go full throttle with the PI plots. I even watched all the episodes online looking for moments to hang on to, but there was a big problem. No real laughs. There just wan't. I couldn't explain it. I chuckled to myself a little bit here and there. But I get 4-7 BIG laughs out of 30 Rock and 1-2 with every night of Conan. And none here. I really wished this show was good cause i loved all the actors. But somehow it never came together. Not even the glimpse it needed to give the series a second chance. The whole thing makes me upset.
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I saw part of it and I kinda snoozed. But, Andy Richter Controls the Universe was awesome and hilarious, THAT was a show worth the time to find an audience. Ah well. Friggin corporate suits.
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The first was airing the first 6 or so episodes free of commercials online before the show ever aired. Utterly brilliant! What retards. Oh yeah the second thing, it wasn't funny.
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The networks are showing themselves as having about the same attention span it requires to watch a mountain dew commercial. I'm not saying this show was great, but while they watch the bottom line, new shows that step outside the norm get squashed. It had POTENTIAL. What Herc saw and hyped was not the show as we all saw it, but what the show was going to be if it was given a chance to devellop. This really pisses me off. Fucking chickenshits.
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I agree this was one of the better sitcoms in recent years. But it was built upon a gimmick that wasn't funny. I mean, they crack accountant jokes. ACCOUNTING JOKES. Now this next statement might negate me in the minds of some talkbackers, but hear me out: My favorite new sitcom is 'Till Death on Fox. I hated Brad Garrett and the beast that was Raymond, but I fucking love 'Till Death, and you talkbackers should give it some love too...I believe a sitcom has to be able to run for at least a season so they can work out the kinks. 30 Rock was a little...er...bumpy at first, but it came into it's own once people got behind it.
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The first three episodes were uneven and not very good. The last three episodes were fucking genius.
Now, it's not really fair to rate a show that's only had six episodes. In fact, it's absurd. It's absurd to say the show was "the best sitcom on TV" and it's really ridiculous to make any judgment at all.
Anyway, it should have been obvious this show was canceled before it even aired by the way NBC rolled it out online and stating one of the episodes was a bonus that wasn't going to air (I'm pretty sure that's what their website was saying). How could they know one of the episodes wasn't going to air???
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I hate to say it because Andy Richter rules from his Conan days. The jokes were too lightweight and didn't have the edge that Conan's show has. And it was produced by Conan which is odd....Hmmmm maybe he should just co-star in a show for now.
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Get a supporting role on a show, not make every one of his shows about him. I mean this is 2 shows with the name ANDY in the title.
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I wonder if the potential audience of this show was smaller because they offered six episodes on NBC's website instead of making us wait till the next week. Maybe it was my fault for watching some, but I didn't find it interesting then, and I watched it once on TV just to make sure it wasn't the crappy video quality of the Internet making me not want to laugh. It wasn't. But on the flipside, I wasn't too impressed with 30 Rock off the bat, but since I didn't watch any episodes before the premiere, I kept watching long after the pilot aired and lo and behold, that show is really good now. LET THE SITCOM FIGHT FOR IT'S LIFE INSTEAD OF ABORTING IT BEFORE IT CAN HIT ITS STRIDE, TV Land.
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It was mediocre at best. Office and 30 Rock are far better.
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YES. The late Phil Hartman, one of the greatest comedians of our time could have any number of crap "Phil Hartman" shows and instead took an ensemble role on the brilliant "Newsradio."
People talk about things like the Seinfeld curse regarding the supporting actors from that show. WHO SAID they should all try to have their own star vehicles? Ben Stiller's father was the only smart one to parlay his heat into another long-term role as a supporting player on another sitcom (which I've never seen, but who cares).
I'm sure, though, that if you mentioned that to Andy Richter he'd say "I'd love a supporting role on a great sitcom" and I'd believe it, because he seems like a great guy. -
It was a ok show and had a nice 80-ies feeling but Andy Barker was of course not the best sitcom on network TV(it can kiss the feet of Scrubs, How i met your mother, Earl or even a mediocre show like 30 Rock). Neither was it one of the best of the last years. Having Tony Hale in Buster Bluth mode in the show and call him lady names doesn't put it automatically on a pedestal with Arrested Development or Scrubs.
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(Other than 24, Heroes & The Wire) is reserved for Buffy/Angel DVDs' & Shanes World College Invasion porno DVDs'
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Not in defeat, but because those two were golden together.*logging out*
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If enough people purchase the show from iTunes, the axe might be taken away.
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A great funny show. I really liked it.
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The days of caring about this fatty ended when he left as Conan's sidekick.
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Sarah Silverman, Andy Richter. Christ! Have we forgotten The Office?
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Is right. All three comedies are very strong. Richter has talent. He will find something someday. He deeserves it.
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The Office is the best sitcom on TV with 30 running a VERY close 2nd...sorry Andy Barker was a let down for me...OFFICE IS NEVER A LET DOWN
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but damn they didnt give it any time.
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good
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i love conan, and even richter, but the show bored me more than tarintinos death proof - who i also love by the way.
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I liked this show, but it was obviously never going to make it. Andy should go back to Conan for the Tonight Show gig. I just don't care to watch that show without Andy. I could see this show getting turned into a funny movie in 10 years, ala Naked Gun.
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And I heard each subsequent episode sucked a big fatty. Good riddance.
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i liked the show, too, don't get me wrong. but please... PLEASE never refer to it as the best sitcom on tv. ever again. for the love of jebus, if you were given the choice to watch the office, south park, curb your enthusiasm, scrubs, hell, even 30 rock or andy barker... you'd honestly choose andy? give your head a shake. the pilot was enjoyable, and the next couple were good for a laugh, but that one where andy needs to finish his father's tax return before midnight while dealing with those credit card scammers was painfully unfunny. the premise is cute, that this accountant is actually, truly in love with accounting that he's oblivious to the actual danger around him, but that can only go so far. i'm disappointed the show didn't catch on, but let's be real. there are many superior shows on right now than this. sorry.
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what a fun genre mashup. i loved the characters too. there were so many places this show could have gone. good luck tony. good luck jane.
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no surprise
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what I was able to see didn't really slay me. Still I would have liked to caught more of it, like during the summer.
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...on the air. What kind of a fucked-up world are we living in?
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Let me guess. Donald Trump had an idea of a sitcom, he sits on his fat, rich ass thinking up mama jokes about Rosie O'Donnell. I've never been more angry in my life. NBC doesn't have a sense of humor. Andy's show may not have been laugh out loud funny, but it wasn't a snoozefest like, oh I don't know, Medium or Law and Order Jaywalking. By the way, there's a Nancy Drew movie coming out. How much you want to bed that's why Veronica Mars has to leave suddenly?
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Cheers ranked dead fucking last and got picked up because they knew it would find an audience. Sienfeld didn't break the top 30 until it's fourth season. The gd Misfits of Science had 14 episodes to find itself. Now if you don't find an audience within 2 weeks your toast. They toss the few sucesses they have around the schedule wrongly thinking that their audience will follow them around. Andy Barker was finding it's voice and improving steadily. It was was also smart. I thank god for anomilies like Arrested Development and Scrubs. (we love The Todd!)
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Have you noticed all the dumb comedies and dramas on the television. I mean, really stupid shows. Cheap thrills, all that crap? America eats it up. They're too lazy to wrap their minds around the subtle jokes. Damn shame too. This show was fantastic. I really enjoyed it. It took a little bit of effort to get into it, but once I was in...I was in. R.I.P. Andy Barker (as well as smart comedies)
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I thought the cast was great, but the jokes were not there. Arrested Development was 10 times funnier and it got canceled too. Too bad, Episode 4 was a bit better and I was willing to give it a couple of more tries, but if they yanked it entirely, guess I'll have to wait until the show up on torrent sites (NBC's website won't stream the show to anyone outside the USA).
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AINT-IT-COOL, aint no more. GRINDHOUSE down the drain. ANDY BARKER down the drain. SHOULD CALL THIS SITE, DON'T-IT-PAY? Guess not.
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quit that Late Night gig!! I mean, was that a great career move or what?!!
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I really liked it(not as much as Controls the Universe) but it wasn't better than Scrubs or the Office. However, it should've been given some time to grow a little.
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I'm still pissed that "Smith" only got THREE! Somebody call Penn and Teller cause that was some bullshit!
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That's the whole point. They're sleeper franchises because no one sees it coming. As for why it was canceled, I think it has a lot to do with the ensemble that the show built for itself. Andy Richter is always great, but his character is a one-note bumbler with very little in the way of surprises in him. The others characters are the same. The same thing happened to Knights of Prosperity. Everyone knows that a great ensemble is the key to a show's success, but nobody can replicate the recent ensembly greatness of My Name is Earl. Those characters are wonderful, mainly because they are rounded enough that they can carry the show in the absence of Jason Lee. Earl can take a step back and the episode can still be great. 30 Rock's doing the same thing too (which is only ONE of the reasons that it's much better than Andy Barker, and why I'm stoked that it's getting picked up for a second season). All in all, Andy Barker isn't that great. Granted I'd like the networks to give every show with promise a chance, but let's not be surprised when a show that's slow to start gets the axe.
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Had Seinfeld premiered now, it would have been cancelled after the first "season", or even sooner. Television today is ridiculous. I understand that it is a money driven business, but to pull shows after 3 episodes makes no sense. People are busyl they have lives, and television has grown into such a different medium with TiVO and everything. I know those type of things are accounted for, but still. It takes time to build an audience, and people are even hesitant to get into shows now, because they're ASSUMING the majority of shows are cancelled. How is that healthy? It was mentioned earlier, but thank God FOX (of all networks) gave Arrested Development a chance, and in the end, it was Hurwitz who opted against it continuing on Showtime. It's going to come to the point where every respectable show is on Showtime, HBO, etc., because it's a whole different environment. How many episodes did Heather Graham's new show last? One? That is so fucking ridiculous. I don't care if the show was utter garbage, it's just not fair to the production crew and stadd.
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You heard me.
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It wasn't the best thing on TV, but better than 90% of the rest of the junk. I'll miss it.
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Saw all of those episodes when they posted them online. Really enjoyed them. I hope Comedy Central picks it up. Would be great. YOU HEAR ME COMEDY CENTRAL!!!???
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Again with the "best sitcom on TV" (that's not The Office). Whatever dude. I know you're always gonna call out your Buffy buddy's shows, but jeeze. It was a good show, but it was no ARCTU. Or 30 Rock, shit I'll even say that.
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Because I knew that networks always have a very quick trigger finger on late season shows like this. Thank God somebody at NBC had the foresight to give The Office a chance to grow and develop when it was getting crap ratings during that 6 episode first season...
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get this crap outta my must see Thursday lineup, its gettin the way of me enjoying The Office.
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The networks most certainly BUILD a sleeper. Like many have mentioned, Seinfeld...Cheers..et al...Someone at NBC saw the crappy rating those shows had when they debuted....and STILL allowed them to be renewed. It's someone having the balls to allow a show the time to BUILD an audience. But...With the kneejerk cancellations of today's TV landscape...it's unlikely any show will be given the time to hit it's stride and for good word of mouth to catch on. I know Fox gave AD everything it could...and it was still unable to save that terrific, smart show. The Office started slow...but the word of mouth caught on fast enough to keep it on the air and allowed it to become "the best comedy on TV" right now, IMHO. It's sade that shows that debut like lightning in a bottle (are you listening LOST?) sort of faulter in their 2nd or 3rd seasons. Unfortunately, Andy Barker won't get a shot at a 2nd or 3rd season. It's likely, someone high up on the NBC food chain had it out for that show before it ever premiered...and then looks like the "I told ya so" hero when the numbers don't perform and gets it cancelled. And we, the viewers, lose.
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they arn't posting entire seasons online out the gate for shows they have hope in. whatever, atleast nbc online lets me watch them kill black donnoleys over the course of the next few mondays. fuck nbc black donnoleys deserves a second season
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with nbc scaling back their comedies, this is not a good sign. they'll just use this as an excuse to make more game show/reality crap... this deserved a longer run. NBC SUCKS ASS AND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IT'S DOING. FUCK THEM IN THEIR PEACOCK ASSES! excelsior!
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People looking for a funny show on NBC should check out "Raines". It's hilarious. *** People listing the best sit-coms on TV should not forget the still-on-hiatus Fox series "The Loop" which was outrageously gutbustin'. *** And Andy Richter should play Uncle Dudley in the Shazam movie, then the Tom Arnold/best friend role in some Stiller, Sandler or Ferrell movie. And by then, be ready to slip back into the sidekick position on "The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien". I mean, if I was his agent, that's the career arc I'd be working towards.
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It really wasn't all that funny. It was one of those shows with a quirky sense of humor which you either loved or completely didn't get. The majority of people don't get it, so it gets cancelled. A few people think it's the best show ever (Herc included) and just can't understand why no one else likes it, but really its just cause it struck a very specific tone that only a small group of people like.
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There was some good talent working on that show. If NBC had given it time to settle in it might've become a classic. Maybe Fox will pick it up. And someone please tell the world (mostly the women) that Grey's is a really bad show. That's a show that truly deserves to be cancelled.
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A hundred+ 18-25 year olds watched some episodes tonight at a USC seminar, and pretty much roared with laughter the whole time.
I can't even count all the things that cracked me up, but I guess "Somewhere in hell, a guy is giving wood to a quality woman" is probably in the top 3.
I wonder if the crappy internet experience hurt the show--on the big screen, it was like the prettiest, funniest movie I'd seen in years.
I'm gonna hope for a last minute reprieve. Y'all haters can suck it. -
i didn't how it could last longer than 7 or so episodes.
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Easily the best sitcom on TV right now!!
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...and I thought it was decent, nothing groundbreaking. But it's sad that everything gets cancelled so quickly now. Smith had the potential to be really great and was canned after 3 episodes...it's almost like every show has to be 'Lost' on it's first season and gain uge ratings. Its ridiculous, especially when shows like Lost and Desperate Housewives have declined in quality and the ratings are dropping..while shows like The Office, My Name is Earl etc...have improved. Give the shows a chance, at least for a whole season.
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Boooooo.
Was begginning to very much like Andy and his Detective agency -
someone is putting the wood to a quality broad.
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I watched three or four of them online, but just because of the novelty factor (hey, I'm watching something online before it's on tv... kewl), but I got tired of the show itself. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't good enough to keep my interest.
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... why you would tout this as the funniest show on tv and would hype it up so much... very suspicious. I usually like Herc's opinion (I think you were one of the few liking X3) but this much enthusiasm for a show that didn't deserve it is just... odd.
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and then saying "DUhhH...Why RAtIngs no good?!?"
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The show was too short. It should've been an hourlong. The live Tick had the same problem, they never had enough time to develop a joke or situation fully.
Two, guys, the network people don't just look at ratings. They do marketing research, including with the episodes online. Personally, I wonder if a lot of people only downloaded the 1st episode and didn't download any others, and the network noticed.
Three, just because something is popular doesn't mean it's not good. Anti-Idol/CSI/Friends rants just make you look like a poseur. The Office is popular, yet it never gets included in these rants. Funny how that works with shows you watch. -
And I agree with awefster, Always Sunny is the funniest thing on TV lately.
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or maybe it needed a reimagining with Pam Anderson as Andy Richter.
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You like a show for a few eps and you forget about everything good---this show is OK, but it's no Office.
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How is a show(that isn't a copy of every other show on TV supposed to find its voice in only 6 episodes? They used to give even the worst shows 13 episodes to catch on. Tim Conway, another funny actor with a lot of cancled sitcoms on his resume, had a license plate that read "13WKS"
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I really like this show. The supporting cast is marvelous. NBC is making a mistake here, but what's new?
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Best sitcom since Seinfeld? I watched every episode and maybe chuckled two or three times. Granted, 30 Rock wasn't great it's first couple of episodes either, but it at least had a few big laughs. Barker was decent at best, but wasn't really going anywhere. Herc's crazy.
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"Terrible decision.... “Barker” is actually the best sitcom we’ve seen in years."
Maybe you're only watching crappy shows Herc, but there are MUCH funnier shows out there, if you'd open your eyes. Barker was a limp, average, wanna-be. 30 Rock is 1000 times funnier, and Barker wasn't even fit to carry the jockstrap of The Office and Scrubs. -
You certainly like to go out on the limb don't you.
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...and it has done pretty well eh? That said, this is a good show, I prefer 30 Rock to it, but to each their own. C'mon NBC Scrubs is winding down in hilarity, give this show a shot!!!
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He's got the same weird bias against it that he has for The Shield.
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He's got the same weird bias against it that he has for The Shield.
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THE SIDEKICK SHALL RETURN TO HIS RIGHTFULL PLACE, ALL SAY "HEY NOW!"
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It's about time NBC axed this. Its been a money pit for them for all of FOUR weeks! If you can't write a sitcom that will destroy the other networks' ratings powerhouses, in the second half of the hour, and do it in four weeks, then you SHOULD be cancelled. I mean, maybe if it got some critical praise, but the nation's TV critics have been gathering in Rockefeller Center with pitchforks and torches demanding the cancellation of Andy Barker. It wasn't a comedy thoroughbred or anything. It didn't have two of the funniest people in the history of NBC plus a cast member from the greatest sitcom in history. But what do you expect from the network that isn't still airing Veronica's Closet and Suddenly Susan! Those shows should STILL be on the air, no excuses.
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Jokes.
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Actually, I've pretty much adopted the "wait for renewal and rent season 1" approach to any new show these days.The last few years have taught me that when I watch a show from the beginning and get into it, it's almost invariably cancelled (Rescue Me and Nip/Tuck being the only two exceptions I can think of off hand).My wife has better luck picking her horses. I'm still kind of baffled that Gilmore Girls has lasted as long as it has and who knew The CLoser was going to be any good?I started watching The Nine and it went away (no huge loss). Got into Touching Evil and it was cancelled (that still bugs me...it was a good show). Enjoyed Starved and they purged it.Of course a second season is no guarantee of longevity or closure. Look what they did to Dead Like Me, Carnivale and Arrested Development.But I waited until second season renewals to jump into The Shield, BSG and 24 and those shows are still around (although only one seems to have retained its quality from season 1).Not sure what the point of this post was other than to say Andy Barker's cancellation wasn't my fault as I wasn't watching.
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I usually agree with almost all of what Herc says, especially when he touted 30 Rock (my favorite sitcom since seinfeld). So I checked this show out. But it's boring! It's ok, but forgettable. I'm not surprised it was canceled. Seems like a comedy central produced show - decent, but not ready for prime time (excluding south park)
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...ahole.I'm convinced it was pitched as "Seinfeld, but with eating disorders resulting from serious self esteem issues."To paraphrase the show's most repeated catchphrase: It wasn't okay...but it was fucking funny.
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don't you mean it WAS your fault because you weren't watching?
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I liked it. I mean there's something about Andy Richter that isn't very interesting I suppose and that's why it keeps happening to him, but it was still pretty good. I actually liked it when it was a Barker/Raines combination. Oh, well. The TV business makes no sense to me. So now I guess I have to wait for Tony Hale to get another soon-to-be-cancelled series. *sigh*
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I like Richter and Hale but the show just wasn't laugh out loud funny. I watched three episodes and got bored with it.
For the record, The Office is the best comedy on TV. Maybe you have to actually work in an office to really get the show but it's genius most of the time.
30 Rock is another average-to-good comedy, although it is funnier than Andy Barker, it is not the second coming of comedy. AICN and EW are both off their mark on that one. 30 Rock is getting better though so maybe the 2nd season it will take off and stop relying on Alec Baldwin to hit all the great jokes. -
How fucking spoiled we are? We keep demanding that TV shows, especially comedies, be out of the park hits in their first at bat. Go back and watch the first seasons of ANYTHING! Seinfeld, NewsRadio, 24, South Park, Buffy, Northern Exposure, X-Files, Simpsons. The first two seasons of TNG are unwatchable. Andy Barker may not have been brilliant, but it had the promise and pedigree that should have given it a chance (and a better time slot). Even the first season of the Sopranos pales in comparison to what it accomplished later in its life. Shows like Arrested Development, The Wire, BSG, which were all brilliant in their first seasons, are the outliers. You can put a dumb reality show or game show on and it will be a hit immediately and then fall off the face of the planet. NBC seems to expect the same pattern from scripted shows. They're fucking retards.
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The first season of something almost always sucks. It seems like all of the great shows don't really hit their stride until seasons 3, 4, or 5 . Seinfeld had it's best season seven years in. The Office was even pretty lame in its first season. Barker wasn't funny for the most part, but it had good characters. Who knows, NBC may have just canceled the next Seinfeld - I doubt it though.
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Andy Richter Controls the Universe. Family Guy. Simpsons. Firefly. 24 (still might be its best season). Heroes. Futurama. King of the Hill (definitely its best season). Greg the Bunny (probably would've gone downhill after the first season). Wonderfalls. I'm sure I'll think of some more later.
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...I was trying to be ironic by drawing the whole "if I watch the show from the beginning, it usually gets cancelled" parallel.My understanding, however, is that I wasn't missing much.I don't know about everyone else on the board, but I can't watch TV at work, so the time I have to give shows a try is actually very limited (as opposed to the time I can spend typing away in talkback). I can't really afford to watch a show that doesn't look very good or at least interesting to me on the surface (for all it's apparent charm and wit, Andy Barker's premise and promos didn't appeal to me and I've been burned by Richter in a sitcom before) in the hopes that it will get better in later seasons. Similarly, I feel like time invested in a continuity heavy show that gets cancelled eight or even ten episodes in is ultimately time I've wasted. Hence, the wait-and-see attitude.I don't think that's an indication of being spoiled so much as it's an indication that I'd like to spend what precious little free time I have watching something that's truly worth my while.
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The Smoking episode, and the Camping episode. Two of the funniest eps ever, not just KOTH.
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Seriously. Netflix the damn three-disc series and tell me it's not great.
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but it was against better shows, and all sitcoms are sorta dumb these days... outside of "must see TV" which is just OK these days, theres no sitcom i wait all week for. how Heroes and Lost on the other hand....
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Just ask Michael Richards. I loved Andy's show on Fox though. That show was so kickass it even had Batman in it.
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Richter is funny as a supporting actor, but he doesn't have the charisma to be a leading man. For some reason, stars like Conan O'Brien and David Letterman (with talent-free love object Jim Gaffigan) can't see that their best buddies are just not suited to carrying a series. Richter's show was a stiff, even though I find him funny in most other roles. Just not his lame sitcoms.
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...but ANDY BARKER wasn't great stuff. There were a few comedic gems in every episode, but the mystery stories were so slow-paced and uninteresting that it felt like a chore watching it. Try again with something more interesting (and marketable, so you don't get cancelled), Andy and Conan. Keep the whole cast, they're great, just do a better show next time. Not a detective show. Something more like OFFICE or 30 ROCK. That's my two bits.
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...their line-up of high-concept, light-hearted detective shows like MONK and PSYCH. And NBC owns USA, doesn't it?
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I'm so used to good TV shows being cancelled that this doesn't even phase me. It's just another half hour that I need to fill with something else now.
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