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'No time for love, Dr. Jones,' says Ray Winstone!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I'm about to hit the Mist set, but saw this bit hit the trades and got first dibs to post the news this morning that actor Ray Winstone (Mr. French in THE DEPARTED and also the title role of Beowulf in... uh... BEOWULF) has signed on to be in INDIANA JONES 4.
Their sources say Winstone will play Indy's sidekick. Either Short Round has aged really weirdly or this is a new character. heh
I could see him playing a kind of rougher Marcus Brody type... or maybe the whole sidekick thing is a deception and Winstone is playing Indy's rival? He'd be a good commie or whoever the hell Indy's fighting in this one.
What do you folks think? Strong actors are being packed around Harrison Ford. Good news, yeah?
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On your wife, and have a beer!
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Naysayers be warned: this will rock. Maybe.
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I do think that the recent casting we're hearing of could be a good sign. I think many of us have been worried that we could get more of the silliness that had crept into Indy during the Last Crusade. I know that when I think of wacky comedy, I rarely think of Cate Blanchett or a guy like Ray Winstone.
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...is going to kick some major butt. Don't know about the new Harrison Ford flick though.
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Can you believe that she was only 21 when she filmed Last Crusade. Now that was a WOMAN!
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Interesting concept...I like.
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Mar 28, 2007 8:18:26 AM CDT
Dang,for a moment there I thought you said Ray Walston.
by excaliburffolkes
Then I remembered he passed on a few years ago.
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Good choice. Great Actor. Tough Geezer. Interesting move....
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"Okey dokey Dr. Jones. Hold on to your potatoes."
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Fuck this movie. Give me a burger with cheese-fries then go suck your mother's clit, you know just how she likes it.
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...but I loather the very idea of this movie.I'd like to say that makes me conflicted, but it doesn't.I don't care if they go back in time and collect a young Goldie Hawn to play Indy's love interest...I'm not seeing this.
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If this story includes Indy's son, who is at least a late teenager, does that mean this is going to be set in the 1960's? That would mean no Nazis. Or do you think he is supposed to be a son from an earlier encounter that Indy didn't know about?
Ray Winstone and Cate Blanchett are great casting. Even Shia "The Beef" doesn't seem like a bad pick. But I'm still having a hard time getting excited about this one. I just don't trust George Lucas at all anymore, and if this is the script that HE liked... Hopefully the trailers will assuage my fears when they start popping up online. -
"Easy there, Indy...Take it off slow so you don't hurt yourself...There you go! Good job, Indy!"
This next movie should be positively RIVETING!
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...but his accent in The Departed was fucking awful. Keanureevesian, even.That said, I like the idea of him playing an older Short Round. He can put his skill at non-cockerny accents to good use: "Me rikey velly much, Dr Jones!", etc. Presumably, while using his index fingers to 'slanty-up' his eyes.Not very PC, I know, but that would be funny as hell.
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But I thought he was dead!
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he's a good actor but i had no idea he had such range.
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Together, they search the parking lot to find where Indy parked his car.
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"There are some asps you can hit, and some you can't....that asp...is almost an asp you can't hit."
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There's only one "the beef," and it ain't Shia. I have to say that the casting for this is coming together nicely.
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I'm sorry, this film is temple of DOOMED!
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Whoever wins, Optimus wins them all.
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You all wait. It will be great. Beginning of a new franchise - Older Indy!.I really hope so .... I don't trust Lucas AT ALL! The dude has only butt fucked any potnetial in any movie he's been involved with.
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why leave it to tarantino to revive actors careers? then again if she doesnt want to that is a different story... but assuming she would.. who among us wants to see a movie with all new characters, plus indy and his dad?? anyone here excited about this, or kate blanchette, or shia fucking labouf as indy jr? b/c i am growing more and more unexcited with every piece of new casting announced-- if you have old characters dont wait to tell us cause you're losing me here
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very good. whoever the source is that tatjana siegel has on her ...uh ....hands (?) or other body parts...he/she seems to systematically satisfy the online mob with its pseudo-"signed-on"-news .
I like the idea of Winstone in Indy IV.
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Unlike MCMLXXVIbollocks, I actually have something to say. Which is:George Lucas=Darth GizzardFar too late for another Indy adventure. Why can't they just leave this shit alone? CRUSADE ended brilliantly. Let it die a natural death. Harrison Ford should play Santiago in the novel by Mike Resnick. It's the only sci-fi role he can do at this point, since it amounts to a cameo. Respect to the man, but he's just too damn old.Oh, and fuck George Lucas. The man who wrote REVENGE OF THE SITH telling Frank Darabont that he doesn't like his SCRIPT?!?! Fucking hypocrite.
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At the end of CRUSADE, Indy has to get the Grail, which he does. To the righteous man, the Grail brings everlasting life; the the unrighteous, it brings everlasting damnation. Well, at least according to the old knight. So, if Indy drinks the water (to see if it IS the correct Grail), then isn't he now immortal? Other than saying that the immortality only lasts while he stays in the chamber behind the Great Seal (which, frankly, is fucking silly) how would you write your way out of the "Indy is now immortal" thing?Like I said, a fucking silly idea to make a 4th movie, and George Lucas doesn't even get to lick my balls. He gets to watch SERENITY for all eternity, wondering why his prequels didn't have one percent of the class that that film did. Or Nathan Fillion as Han Solo. Fucking Darth Gizzard.
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Then you get a scene with Sallah:ORLY: Shall I describe the scene to you? Or would you like me to fetch you a box?SALLAH: Fuck you elf boy. Have a date. Heh heh.
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the immortality doesnt work outside that cave (for some unexplained reason)
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In every screenwriting book you'll ever read (except if you're Darth Gizzard) there's the rule that, if you want a consequence, there has to be an action beforehand. If you want someone to be immortal, set up a line saying "If you drink this, you'll be immortal". They did that. Then he cures Sean "Scotsman in everything I do" Connery, and leaves. for some reason, the whole "Indy is immortal" thing will just be forgotten, but it bugs the living shit out of me. But then again, this is the writer who gave R2-D2 flying ability in ATTACK OF THE CLONES, but forgot about it in the skiff scene in RETURN OF THE JEDI. HELLO?!?!? The Gizzard licks balls. But I ask you this, lilgorgor: what does your talkback name mean, and how would YOU write the immortal thing out? 'Cos whatever you come up with will be better than this film will be ;D
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Yes, Steve Guttenberg is taking over the whip in this next Indy movie, the climax is in a hot air balloon race.
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Especially a kid. Just think of it. Not only would it give the film all the seriousness and tense plot of such gems as "Superman Returns", but it could also be a comedy relief... because they could constantly call him "Junior Junior" throughout the film! That would be so funny! And the ending would be so sweet and original - the final scene of father and son embracing each other and smiling. I'd love to see such a scene. No other film has anything of the sort to offer now!
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If the timeline puts Indy in the early 60's, I think it will be revealed that he is a horrible racist and he will battle the civil rights movement. After all, he is very fond of that whip, we've should have seen this coming! He'll also be driving arond in the General Lee. Sounds like Lucas's writing to me. Lucas, the real Nazi.
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Yes, Cattrall, I remember you in that first movie. Leslie Easterbrook as evil Nazi dominatrix. Cameo for Sheri Moon Zombie in Nazi outfit. Daniel Dae Kim for Short Round. And there has to be room for the R. W. Bailey somewhere!!!
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do people know he was a crazy hedonist orgy loving bisexual, who died of AIDS on Ibiza? I'm not joking at all, you can look it up. I was astonished. I always thought he was the same guy in real life as his character in Indiana Jones. crazy stuff...I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't checked him out on wikipedia...
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Sorry, but the positive news for this film is slowing outweighing my fears. Ray Winstone can play a scary motherfucker, and hopefully this means the film isn't going to be all quips and one liners.
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as he already told you: once the grail is brought past the seal of the cave, all bets are off. I guess they read one of those screenplay books you were talking about. gotta pay attention, brother.
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This movie is just getting better and better. For all the haters, Shia LeBouf is a good actor, Spielberg said it himself ( a young Tom Hanks, now thats a good thing)
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I thought you said Roy Firestone..his big friggin head could double as an Easter Island head.
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Not so...haven't you heard! Stephen Chow is playing short round in indy 4!!!
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Yeah, true, but didn't that ring false to anyone else? Like, the Holy Grail came from Jerusalem, passed into the hands of the Knights Templar, they found/built some temple in the Canyon of the Crescent moon in Alexandretta, which is in modern day Turkey. But if the power to make someone immortal resides in the Grail -and the water you drink from it - surely it's the CUP that gives immortality, not the geographical location? And if the location is important, why that temple? Sounds like I'm nit-picking, I know, but this whole "Great Seal" thing sounds like balls to me. Snoogans. I am far too huge a geek about this, aren't I?
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As I understand it; you drink from the cup you are immortal, it's only the grail you can't take beyond the seal. When they try and take it across the whole temple collapses but the grails effects work in the real world, otherwise the second Sean Connery walks out the temple he dies of a gsw.
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How impossible is it for these IDIOTS to understand that if they got Karen Allen, John Rhys-Davies, Sean Connery and Denholm Elliot back in the fold for this film, and in the final scene we see Indy walking off into the sunset with Marion...or maybe even walking into the warehouse at the end of "Raiders" saying "Now where the hell did they put that crate?", That we'd have the possibility of making the Indy equivalent of ESB?
Frank Darabont writes you a script and you REJECT it? Riiiight. Bring on Kate Capshaw.
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"THIS FUCKING TOOL!!!" He's the British Cagney - his 'departure' in 'The Departed' reminded me of 'Big Vern' from 'ViZ Comics'.
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I'd like to see em both get into a barfight or somethin. "Where's yer tool?" Winstone is great. I worry about the comedy crap from Last Crusade too, this seems a step in the right brutal direction.
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I have any faith in this is because Spielberg's last few films have been pretty Descent.Munich was actually great and the official cast has been strong.I just hope shia lebuff is not in this.
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Mar 28, 2007 9:31:46 AM CDT
He should have been the one nominated for Sexy Beast
by stovetopstuffin'
Granted, I loved Ben Kingsley, but Ray's performance was clearly the best part of that movie.
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Except for the part with Denholm Elliot. 'Cos he's dead. And it's Darth Gizzard who got to veto Darabont, the Berg was really happy with the script. Yep. A Darabont script "not good enough" for a guy who wrote the SW prequels. Fucknugget that he is.
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The temple only falls down if the Grail moves. If the effects of the Grail changed, the Juan Sanchez Villa Lobos Ramirez woould've kicked the bucket and karked it, quite right. Don't these things just bug the shit out of anyone else but me?Nah, just me then. Not to start the LOST haters talkback...
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DO NOT MAKE THIS MOVIE.
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What? What was that? You didn't like the STAR WARS PREQUELS?!?! No shit! Really, I haven't heard that before, I thought they were genuine masterpieces! I guess you don't remember it has dick to do with Indiana Jones, and... uh, George Lucas isn't directing that one. Yeah, and ... uh.... It's fucking Harrison Ford. Think I'll go see it.
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Distinctly remember walking out of that movie saying, you do realise they just made Indy and Jones Sr immortal. Guess we'll just have to forget that. I have grave doubts about this movie after the eye bleeding horrors of Episodes 1-3. I'd rather see Indy movies with a new cast set in the '30s and '40s.
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I'M TOO OLD FOR THIS SHIT!
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Yeah Star Wars Prequels have nothing to do with the Prequels except... the same writer... the writer is also the co-creator, so has automatic veto on anything he doesn't like... Ah shit. Yes it COULD happen to the Indy movies. Which is why this shit is a really bad idea. They've completely forgotten, for example, that they just made their main characters IMMORTAL! I repeat: Darth Gizzard is a twat. And the Berg, who I have way more faith in, still has to agree with the Gizzard in order to get this made.People, the run of good indy movies is over. Move along to the next great franchise to be royally fucked. I hear John Carpenter just got paid to forget all about Snake Plissken...
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You should've seen what he did to Chas in CONSTANTINE. sweet merciful Jesus. I haven't seen a character so screwed over since Ewan McGregor in the SW Prequels. I think his arse is STILL sore.
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...is one of the most intense and brutal performances I've ever seen. Very grim film. He was great in "The Proposition" as well.I don't know about "Indy 4" but I dig Ray Winstone.
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...got to touch Megan Fox. And it's sad to think that ol' Brian Austin Green gets to make her shimmy every night. :-(
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Not even in the temple, not even beyond the great seal, or where the penitent man may pass!
The Grail only gives immortality if you drink from it every day! The effect heals your injuries, sicknesses etc. Look at Indy's face before he drinks - all beat up and shit - after he drinks it's okay!
The Knight says all this in the film - he then says 'I was weak' meaning that he was not strong enough to feel morally strong enough to sip from the cup every day!
That's why he was old and not immortal!
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Not even in the temple, not even beyond the great seal, or where the penitent man may pass!
The Grail only gives immortality if you drink from it every day! The effect heals your injuries, sicknesses etc. Look at Indy's face before he drinks - all beat up and shit - after he drinks it's okay!
The Knight says all this in the film - he then says 'I was weak' meaning that he was not strong enough to feel morally strong enough to sip from the cup every day!
That's why he was old and not immortal!
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I completely forgot that Denholm Elliot had passed. Has he really been gone since 1992? *shakes head*
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though I haven't seen Nil by Mouth. I've been very negative towards this movie since I think it is of course many years too late. Can it still capture the old 'magic'? Very interesting casting choices being made...
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how "capable" he is when creating something from the scratch rather than adapting (read: adapting King.) Especially when creating sequels. The Fly II, Nightmare on Elm Street III, anyone? Or, in fact, that wretched "Teendy" series, where Darabont wrote some episodes? I just hope Lucas will no longer pander to fandorkism - that's the only wrong thing that was wrong with the prequels: spineless concepts like the inclusion of worthless background characters as major figures because they're supposedly "fan favorites." No idiotic nods to previous Jones entries (especially no damn government warehouses), no kid, no "family problems", and it might turn out fine. It just might. It won't, but it might.
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Mar 28, 2007 10:32:05 AM CDT
By the way, remember Indiana J. & Saucer Men from Mars?
by jackpumpkinhead
Or Indiana Jones and the Monkey King? However bad this one will be, it can't be any worse than these two scripts that almost were made into Indy IV earlier. It just can't be... can it?
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Mar 28, 2007 10:37:00 AM CDT
Indiana Jones and the Cranberry Juice for Your Period
by reynard muldrake
I think what would be interesting to know is the a.) Darabont Script and b.) working script.
Knowing who's in the movie...meh. Ray Winstone could be Noah for all we know, haunting the Ark and when Indy finds him on Mount Ararat he shovels elephant dung at him. Get a real scoop - stop copping Variety. Or at least SHARE a real scoop guys. Still waiting for a Joker pic. Or an Indy Script review -
Since lilgorgor hasn't replied to you yet, I'm going to go out on a limb and say his talkback name refers to "GorGor", the crack baby dinosaur given birth by Oderus Urungus of GWAR after injecting crack into his egg. GorGor grew up to oppose GWAR and sought to destroy Oderus and the world on the classic album "America Must Be Destoyed."
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Blubber neck needs to keep his KFC hands off my fucking childhood!
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...He'll be mixing it up with escaped Nazis in the Amazon who are trying to contact the aliens that the ancient Nazca civilization were in contact with. Obviously. Sigh... This is too easy.
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His script was about Eden. And the big improvement over Indy's son was... Indy's daughter! Yeah! You show'em, Frank. Everyone's inserting franchise characters' sons in lame belated sequels nowadays, but you're so different and your ideas are so fresh.
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I still don't understand the point of making this movie. They ended the series perfectly in Last Crusade. Lucas and Spielberg should come up with a new idea.
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And just bull-whip the everlovin' crap out of those retards.
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Indy's sidekick would have been a magical black man (played by either Morgan Freeman or Michael Clarke Duncan) with special healing powers.
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Yeah, he can provide gravitas. But!!! BUT!! Ford is too old! TOOOO OOOOLLLLDDD!!!! No more rockin for you. He will use his whip to grab onto his wheelchair. You won't be able to hear the gunfire for the cracking of the arthritic hips and knitting needles!! Ewan McGregor for Indy in a prequel please!
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Indy faces the evil Dr. Bigfinger. "Once again doctor jones, we see there is nothing you can possess that I cannot take away."
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We only get a small world view in CHILDREN. Could be going on, but its dodgy!!!
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When Indy is researching the Grail and going through his Dad's notebook he mentions that there were 4 brothers who went looking for it. One of those is the Knight in the Temple and I THINK the other 3 went back to their homelands and lived amazingly long lives. That's what SHOULD happen to Indy. I had a good idea for a script that had Indy being about 60 but being able to set it in the modern time/80's cold war due to the effects of the grail.
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what's wrong with having eden be the thing that he finds, for crying out loud? that sounds cool. keeps it in the biblical realm but not overly religiuos... and id like to see indie getting all hot under the collar about short round flirting with his badass daughter rather than shia labouf whining his way through some 'standing up to my dad' subplot
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Mar 28, 2007 12:17:10 PM CDT
Anybody see "LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE FABULOUS STAINS"
by daddylonghead
Awesome, awesome punk movie, with a young Ray Winstone... and I shit you not, over the course of the movie you can SEE him go from skinny to fat. It's an amazing transformation! He starts off as a scrawny punk boy and at the end of the film he's the size of the Ray Winstone we all know and love from Sexy Beast.
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Unless Dr. Henry Jones' years of extensive research and the old Knight were wrong. I mean, I guess they could be, but still that kind of retcon really shouldn't be part of the Indy series. Neither should Shia Laboof!
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can suck it. He's probably in better shape than most of us are. Indy always seemed to be archeologist first/man-of-action second, and a reluctant action hero at that. I only hope that Spielberg stage practical effects and keeps any CGI Indy's out of it.
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Shia LeBouf is an extremely versatile actor, you know.
"I welcome the challenge," Lebouf said in a recent interview. Asked how he would handle the transformation to a woman, he replied "It's a very intense process. It's like, whoosh!" -
Ford is too old. Carp...carp...carp...
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Really fine acting and powerful performance.
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Indy will now be played by a 5 year old three toed sloth and his adventures near a volcano
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If this effects the likelyhood of 'Death of A Ladies' Man' getting finished at some point in the next two years, then Fuck Indy - Winstone should go Indie!
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...you have to KEEP drinking from the Grail in order to be immortal. It heals wounds and whatnot, but unless you stay in that cave and keep drinkin', you're gonna age. And the Grail itself can't pass beyond the seal, so you're stuck there. So, can we put the "Immortal Jones" theory to rest?
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Ford is so old that they had to retcon the "immortality" of the grail subplot from Crusade in order to justify Ford in the title role. What, skimn? Oh, you want people to STOP carping? I think pillow has the right idea...
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Ford is too old
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Indy takes off his "I gotta Shit" mask to reveal a near-70 yar old Ford. Too international venomy!
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Indiana Jones wears Old Spice
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JackPumpkinhead - Do you work for the Gizzard? Come on, you have to admit, arguments about bringing background figures to the fore aside (I agree with you there - I'm particularly pissed off at the way Boba Fett was shoehorned is as a brat), the prequels just plain stink. Gaping plot holes, dialogue that wouldn't be out of place on Days Of Our Lives, clunky exposition, and criminal wastage of the real talent (Chris Lee, Ewan McGregor, Natalie Portman) in favour of more gurning time for the walking wood that is Hayden Plankensen. Now Darth Vader will always be a whinging bitch to me, and I'll always wonder how good they COULD have been had the Gizzard stepped away from his own gargantuan ego and actually let someone with some talent and skill take the reins. Hey, it worked on EMPIRE and JEDI. I'll take Ewoks over fucking Gungans any day.Indiana Jones. Whether immortal or not, whether going to sequel or prequel, as fit as he may be, Harrison just looks too old. And as I'll look like some lunatic Browncoat if I keep going on about him, there is only one person who can do Harrison Ford when he was young: that man is Nathan Fillion. Because Mal Reynolds IS Han Solo. Oh, and Pumpkin? Elm St 3 was the only movie since the first one to show any real creativity. You got me on Fly 2 though - that just sucked.EddieBlake, thanks for the info. I remember GWAR - Empire Records! They ate Ethan Embry!!seandead,LOVE the Bubba Indy idea!!!!I'm with potsmokin'alien: Eden works for me. You could take that concept ANYWHERE. But Pumpkinhead: where do you get your ino from? How did you get to read Darabont's script? Why do you hate him so much? (Dramatic musical cue): ARE YOU DARTH GIZZARD?!?!?!?!
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If you have it, you don't need it. And if you need it, you won't get it. Ever.
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I haven't caught AOTS for a while until recently..is Munn looking more boobalicious than ever lately? In Your Pants indeed!!
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at least not until your viagara kicks in! Bong!
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This is what Harrison Ford said to Winstone when Ray initially refused to take the role. Indiana Jones is a Sexy Beast. Anyway, Ray should have been Chas in Constantine instead of Shia. But if that's your only problem with Constantine, I suggest you read the comics again.
Anyway, Winstone was great in Cold Mountain, too.
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People do get old, ya know. You, too, might get old. But being old doesn't mean being dead. Old people can still walk, still talk, even kiss a member of the opposite sex. Indy would be as up for adventure in the 1950's or 1960's as he was in the 40's. He'll just need a backup adventurer to dart forward and cover him in physical confrontations. But his whip hand and his gun still work. And his mind will be sharpened by decades of adventure and thievery. He's a smart, experienced man, and he can whip any temple of doom you can show him. And Lucas established that he lived 'til his nineties in the Young Indiana Jones series, and he was fiesty even then.
Every hero also needs an ending tale; another poster got it right. He walks into this warehouse, asks "Where the hell did they put it?", and slings a crowbar over his shoulder. Cue the credits, and a blinding light from the clouds... -
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Denny's?
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he overdoses on Viagra. I hate snakes, Josh! Especially ones that last 4 hours!
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you put it well. I mostly just like being a noodge to people like skimn. Truthfully, I think a well-crafted story can make anything "work". So, Indy isn't "too old", relaly. It's more of my doubt in Lucas, Spielberg, and Koepp creating a vehicle for the character which works that has me down on this who thing. I really DO want to look forward to a new Indy film, but as it is, I'm kinda scared to see what it'll end up being. Especially after my disenchantment with Transf, I mean TINO!
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"How much did you pay to colour your hair?"
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is no one else could play Indiana Jones but Ford. The character is his creation as much as Lucas' and Spielberg's. It's not like an already established character that existed in another medium, like James Bond. Soooooo since they are going forward and making another, accept it or not. I just hope they don't fuck it up and do it basically for the easy buck. Spielberg has proven his abilities many times over since '89, so lets hope so.
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Mar 28, 2007 1:42:09 PM CDT
I'M THE DADDY NOW!!! WINSTONES ONE HARD MOTHERFUCKER!!!
by alucardvsdracula
If he's got Ford's back then things have just got REAL interesting. So long as they don't try and turn him into a pussy mind. NOW INDY ARE YOU LISTENING, I'M THE DADDY NOW!!!!
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though I've lost some faith in Spielberg since the late-90's. But maybe those films just weren't for me? Ford is THE embodiment of Indy and I would need a good amount of convincing to see someone else take over the role- even if this new movie were an honest-to-goodness reboot (which seems okay for franchises like Bond or ST, but not for Indy which has only 3 previous films.) Because this new film feel so much like a payday cash-in for Lucash and Spielberg, I'm especially concerned about how the character, his mythos and supporting characters are going to be treated. I have a great affinity for the three existing Indy films, even with all their pockmarks, boils, scars, and gimpy legs. I love'em. I want this new one to fit in with it's three older siblings, but am fearful it won't be able to., to the extent I'd almost prefer not to even have it happen. I, and many others, have accepted that they are moving forward with the production and I know I'm going to see it next May regardless. I just don't want to be disappointed and I have little to put my faith in that I won't be. And then there's the psychological issue about "not wanting to see our idols grow old" that may be supporting my resistance to this movie...;-)
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if I knew Lucas wasn't involved (sorry, prequels blinding me with hate) and if Ford had done a decent movie in a decade. I'm hoping that this film succeeds, especially in light of the cast. He's still too old though. carp...carp...cheadlistic carp filled with venomny goodness!
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superior numbers skimn! carp...carp!
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in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe (2005).
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BRING BACK SHORTROUND!! he's the only thing that made the second movie watchable
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Ford's mancheadleness questioned. Does he still got the cheadle to play Indy? Does Topher got the proper mancheadle to do Venom? Is the Silver Surfer going to be a steaming puddle of pissed-away mancheadle in the new FF4 flop? Does Kiera Knightly drink Captain Sparrow 's cheadle ale this summer? Will Shrek the turd spew more ogrecheadle with puss n' boots this summer? Will DON CHEADLE go cheadlewild in Oceans 13 this summer?? All these tantalizing questiosn to be answered in the wonderfully peachy summer of 2007!
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First Blanchet and now Winstone? Awesome news. As far the grail goes, yes, you have to continue to drink from it, as was implied by the dialogue.
The key clue as far as how it works was brought up by someone else above. In Jones Sr.'s research, it was noted that the three crusaders who went back to their homes and lived very long lives... obviously because they sipped from the grail. Same will happen for Indy and Jones Sr. (if he's in the script). -
The opening, the setting, shortround, the kali, dinner scene, heart snatching, bridge scene etc..... Just needed to give it some love.
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I'm worried about this movie cause it'll either be genius or awful, there's no room for anything else. I can't imagine a worse experience than sitting in a theatre and feeling embarrased for those guys. But if anyone's got a lifetime pass to do as they please it's Spielberg, Ford and Lucas. Plus the casting news has been amazing so far. Jury's out on Shia but I've liked the kid in what I've seen him in so far. I'm there on opening day whatever, but I *so* hope they can pull it off...
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Ray: "Nah, I don't wanna do da fackin' job." ........ Spielberg: "YES!YES!YES!YES!" *slaps Ray* ....... Ray: "Alright then."
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You mean you didn't dig Ford's Russian in Widowmaker...? I know what you mean...Iconic characters rebooted just to revive someones career...Willis could use a monster sized hit in Live Free, just cuz, but he can still kick ass in Sin City, and provide nice cameo work like in Fast Food, and curious to see him in Grindhouse. And yea, outside of What Lies Beneath, everything else has fizzled for Ford. There is a certain odor of despairation, that I may be trying not to smell.
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anyone complaining about ford being too old for this role is a moron. one of the only potentially interesting things about this movie is seeing what indy is like as a grizzled old coot.
and whoever up there said that this smells like a lucas/spielberg cashin-- i dont think either of those fellas is gonna be playing vegas any time soon. lucas is basically at coppola's point where he just finances whatever he wants to make with the mazillions of dollars he has. spielberg just wants to make too many movies for that way of working to be possible, but he'll get there when he realizes he's not gonna convince the whole world he is the greatest filmmaker of all time... patience, jackass, patience -
Do they not know what kind of movies they're making? They gave Jones a sidekick in the one film that didn't work. Is this not a clue?
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I'm praying they ALL get killed in the first 5 minutes. That would be awesome. Otherwise Harrison's going to be dragging around a hell of a lot of baggage.
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what is weird though, this is really happening. After more than a decade of talks, they are really doing it.
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I agree. A mediocre Indy film would be awful. That's why it is also my hope that even if they do a lot of stuff wrong, they'll least fail really big and do things wrong with a lot of courage.
The things I worry about the most are:
Will they be able to give the age issue proper treatment? Will Indy look old enough (story wise) to be authentic and believable and young enough to avoid ridiculousness and fit into an action adventure film? Will Ford be able to really act, to stretch and not appear as stiff and grim as we've lately seen him too often (which was mainly due to the crappy roles he chose to play. i wanna shed some positive light on hollywood homicide here, which beyond all crappiness gave him something slightly new to play and showed that he at least got has certain...interesting...moves... going...or something)
I love Ford. I also think that he still has enough youthfullness inside of him to deliver the boyish obsessiveness even an aged and worn out Jones will feature. as a matter of fact roles sometimes make these guys older than they appear to be in ...let's say talk shows. pardon me if all that doesn't make any sense. i'm a bit drunk. by the way: that's also something that would please me in indy IV: a disillusioned, slightly drunk indy. and in the end: maybe a dying indy. -
pwned
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He can't believe Shia's going to be in this.
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he was great in "the proposition" and "sexybeast" - i hope this surprises everyone
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remember the scene with indy and marion on the sub - nursing wounds - he was all banged up and in a lot of pain - it was very funny and very real - they need to do more of that in this new flick - a lot more - in fact - a scene or two of indy actually choosing NOT to do some death defying stunt ("im gettin too old for this shit" like obi wan in anh) would be welcome - and could pay off in laughs
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he was great in the last one - a cameo at the very least would be nice - father and son having tea and a laugh sharing stories - and having an arguement
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I mean, Ray Winstone is great, don't get me wrong, but what about Sallah? I mean, other than "Lord of the Rings," Rhys-Davis has been keeping busy with..."In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Seige Tale" and direct-to-video fantasy movies. Maybe they'll both be in it? Along with Kate Blanchett, Indy's son, Indy's daughter, Indy's mongoose (he HATES snakes, remember?), and Barricade (voiced by none other than Keith David). Maybe somewhere amidst the CGI and huge supporting cast they'll work in a plot or a McDonald's commercial or something.
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With regards to the roles he takes, I recall Moriarty making the remark that Rhys-Davis "would eat a phone book for money."
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She could've shared a lesbian kiss with Cate Blanchett's character...
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... factoring in fords age and projecting it onto the character (indy) - this story should take place in the early/mid 1950s - very cool era for any movie to take place in - great cars, fashion, popular music - and cold-war drama - an era notorious for ufo cover-ups - i hope this movie is a home run
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sometime after v-day - hollywood cheats with real age - like stallone is 60+ but rocky (in the last movie) was like 50 something
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Honestly if you're going to be *THIS* late for the bandwagon, you may as well punch yourself in the face and catch the next one.
And the titles you're posting aren't even fresh - its like your cutting and pasting from the last INDY IV talkback.
poser. -
An old gray haired English guy in IJ?!? Could Winstone be a recast Marcus Brody?!? That would be consistent with the idea of him being a "sidekick" to Indy as Marcus pretty much was in Last Crusade.
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That's a title, folks.
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Mar 29, 2007 1:01:44 AM CDT
ArcadianDS...I think me & many talkbackers would agree:
by captain happy
Booooo......lighten up; go harass your little sister or something...
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Mar 29, 2007 1:03:59 AM CDT
INDIANA JONES FALLS ASLEEP IN FRONT OF THE TELEVISION..
by captain happy
WITH HIS MOUTH OPEN....
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I mean, what would the director of Re-Animator and King of the Ants have to do with relic hunting alongside Dr. Jones? Of course, I'm kidding. Did anyone notice that I said "Doody" earlier in this tb?
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Mar 29, 2007 3:27:49 AM CDT
INDIANNA JONES AND THE STAY OFF MY LAWN YOU DAMN KIDS!!
by redwingshoolihan
I hate these titles, but what the hell, I'm drunk.
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Or was. I heart Ray Winstone.
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yes. and that's what makes the idea of ford playing indy 25 years on so problematic. it's one thing for marion to say indy is getting too old when he's in his late 30s. but when he's sixty-fucking-five? i'm sure Indy 4 will have lots of clever nods and jokes to his age. but it still won't efface the fact that Ford is too old to play a credible action hero.
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'Cos he's English, right? And we all know that English actors in American movies are villians?
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who can't be trusted! They're shady I tell ya!
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Katzenberg revealed upcoming 3D movies at a Bank of America conference:
http://snipurl.com/1ebrv
Sounds good. 3D is back to stay, methinks. -
Marion wasn't referring to Indy as "old" or getting "older" when they were on Katanga's ship in Raiders. If you'll remember Indy says, "Its not the years its the mileage"...
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