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A Sizzle Reel For THE GOLDEN COMPASS Shows Up Online! And Then Disappears! And Reappears again!

Harry here - saving the day! Mori dropped the ball, but I picked it up!

And sure enough, it's already gone. Basically, what was leaked online was a sizzle reel, something that's shown to exhibitors or merchandisers to try and get them excited about the movie. Much of this matched the footage I was shown when I visited the set earlier this year, and it gives you a very good idea of what you can expect in theaters this December. Keep in mind... most of this is unfinished, and a lot of the effects are in rough test form. Still, if you’re curious what the world of HIS DARK MATERIALS is going to look like onscreen, this is your first peek. The footage appears to be password protected at this point. Sorry if you missed it.

Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles

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  • March 25, 2007, 1:28 p.m. CST


    by rdsxfan8

    yeah im first. now my w/e is complete

  • March 25, 2007, 1:33 p.m. CST

    third, bitches

    by council estate scumbag

    right on!

  • March 25, 2007, 1:33 p.m. CST

    i meant second.

    by council estate scumbag

    this is third, bitches

  • March 25, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST


    by dirkadirkadirka

    That was actually decent looking. A tough book to adapt...the movie will totally hinge on the little girl. There are some pretty emotial scenes from the book that will be key to the film. I hope its good.

  • March 25, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST

    directed by Matt Parkman from Heroes?

    by BadMrWonka

    this looks fun. but they really should release a real trailer before the self-blowjob one. "a movie unlike any other movie ever made, in that it is better than anything you've ever experiences, even better than that time you met Salma Hayek in mexico and she was a little drunk and you made out for a bit and told your friends you slept with her, yes, it's even better than that, and it's even better than it would have been if she actually HAD slept with you, yes THE GOLDEN COMPASS is the best thing ever to happen in reality, EVER...opens December 7th..."

  • March 25, 2007, 1:40 p.m. CST

    That looks Fantastic!!!

    by Teamwak

    This has suddenly gone a lot higher up the must-see scaled. Loved the polar bear charging. Looks like they might just do it right. And th Daemons looked very good too. That was the bit I was most worried about, but it looks like they might have nailed it as well. Time to put the second into prep. That one could be even better if done right.

  • March 25, 2007, 1:49 p.m. CST

    If it disappears

    by supertoyslast

    You can download it here:

  • March 25, 2007, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Huge 'meh'

    by Kromag

    I don't know. It looks sort of like they ripped off Narnia for the visuals, and then changed the entire plot from the book. Could be decent I suppose. Nicole Kidman is a really boring choice for the villain.

  • March 25, 2007, 1:57 p.m. CST

    I've got a good feeling about this one

    by samsquanch

    I loved the books, any comparison to Narnia is absolutely absurd, if you've read any of those books. And on that topic- wait for the "wahh wahh they made fun of God" talk to start any second now...

  • March 25, 2007, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, and Council Estates-

    by samsquanch

    sometimes you're really funny.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Looks like it'll be amazing

    by SherlockMonk

    Let's just hope they don't get rid of what made the story so original and edgy by disregarding religion.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:08 p.m. CST

    This is a bad trend

    by gusradio

    I really hope that the powers that be will quickly stop this new trend of making trailers for films, the making of vignettes. This film seems to want to tell a story of high imagination and childlike wonder yet they make a trailer that cuts the legs off the imagination of filmmaking out from under it. Do the children who go to see this film need to be allowed to look behind the curtain and reminded of green screen composits while watching the evil witch fly around casting computer generated spells. seriously you only get one chace at a first impression. I never once considered the mat paintings in the background or the animatronic puppets when I watched the "Dark Cystal" or the "Neverending Story" for the first time as a tike. I guess they're just trying to beat net-geek sites like this one to punch of letting the magic illusionist cat out of the bag. i hope they take that trailer down and save it for the DVD. Because after the dust settles i do want to know how the magic works but not till after i've had a chace to digest the raw story and images. Moriarty don't you think they should have held that material for the DVD? + I'm posting this kind of talk on the wrong website huh?

  • March 25, 2007, 2:09 p.m. CST


    by BadMrWonka

    see my above post for a similar, yet less well-argued take on it...

  • March 25, 2007, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Color Me Stiff

    by Old Lady Shmidt

    "From the studio desperately trying to do something cool without Peter Jackson"

  • March 25, 2007, 2:18 p.m. CST

    gus and MrWonka

    by ShadowMaker

    I think a Sizzle reel is NOT a regular trailer and is not meant as such, but rather something they put together to help sell the film to people who need to put in theaters - like distributors etc. these are people who can't afford to wait until 'real' trailers come out and have to determin the possible value of a film beforehand. And not every film is a sure thing like 'Star Wars' or 'Lord of the Rings' that they will book into theaters unseen. So please relax: this is indeed not meant to destroy the magic of the film.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:20 p.m. CST


    by lionbiu

    I am not impressed with the choice of Nicole Kidman AT ALL!! She is far too young and dull. But it looks like the got Lorek (sp??) right, but I am not sure whether I think the tone is seems they are going the kid-friendly route. This may mean they have chosen to emit the religous backbone and if they have done that, than this will be dreadful and no one will understand what made the stroy so great. The daemon's look pretty cool though.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:20 p.m. CST

    where's the love

    by stvnhthr

    Why when movies like the Passion, Children of Men, or Narnia get made do the majority of talk backers ask that the religious message be marginalized, but when a movie like the Golden Compass is in production do they ask that the anti-tolerant hateful anti-religious message be left in? What’s the rationalization for the double standard again?

  • March 25, 2007, 2:25 p.m. CST

    More like Ain't it OLD News! I downloaded this

    by CreasyBear

    five months ago after I saw it on Smurf-humper821's MySpace blog! (Or was it JizzMasterZero's blog?) What's next, a snippet from The Phantom Menace? You guys probably don't even have the trailer to the Hobbit yet. Sheesh.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Where's the polar bear's armor?

    by aceattorney

    Not in the movie?

  • March 25, 2007, 2:29 p.m. CST


    by lionbiu

    oh hush one ever said that the religious messages in Passion, children of men (not even sure where you got this from) or Narnia should be removed. And why do you think His Dark Materials should have to lose it's message? It preaches nothing of intolerence...but to think for yourself, to fight dictatorships, to always question and to help make this Earth a better place..........YEAH REAL FUCKING INTOLERENCE THERE!!! And the fact that your post contradicts yourself, I really wonder whether you know what double standard means.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:30 p.m. CST


    by BadMrWonka

    that may be so, but I sitll think it should be released later than the actual trailer. if this is all people (normal people) have to go on, the movie won't be judged on its merits as a film, but more as a technological production.<p>also, I had no idea the movie was anti-religion, I'm definitely seeing it now.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:30 p.m. CST


    by Kromag

    I said it looked like they ripped off Narnia's visuals...not the story. Obviously since Golden Compass is awesome anti-religious pro free choice writing, whereas Narnia was a fantasy story with strong Christian overtones. I am very worried, however, that they have changed the Golden Compass story to make the movies. I still hate the Nicole Kidman casting as much as I think Daniel Craig and Eva Green are good choices.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:31 p.m. CST

    From the studio that brought you LOTR...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...but not The Hobbit.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:31 p.m. CST


    by BadMrWonka

    anti-tolerant hateful anti-religious message, hit the nail on the head, there. the book was also too long and too short. and I love the show Lost.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:34 p.m. CST


    by Finklestone

    Don't get your hopes up, ZombieSolutions. They have removed all of the religious themes from the films in order to make them palatable for the U.S market. Pullman sold out to the money men at New Line.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Yeah, almost as if the studios are more concerned

    by CreasyBear

    with making money than they are with preserving the integrity of an author whose apparent viewpoint goes against the grain of over 90% of the US population. That is odd.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:48 p.m. CST


    by gusradio

    So this Sizzle is not meant for the general public but rather theatre owners, distributors, and product advertizers (burger king toyz)? ok. so is that the basic industry definition of Sizzle? _+btw i'm very relaxed watching my Detroit tigers tounce to ny yankees.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:48 p.m. CST


    by stvnhthr

    So there is no logical explanation for the double standard ?

  • March 25, 2007, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Sam Neil using a six shooter on witches while...

    by Larry of Arabia

    an armored polar bear runs through the street? Even if I didn't already love the books I'd be there.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Pullman will suck your cock for a Mars bar

    by Finklestone

    All those interviews and newspaper articles in which Pullman slagged off C.S Lewis and organised religion were nothing more than a publicity stunt. Throw a wodd of cash at him and he will ditch his oh-so deeply held Humanist ideals quicker than a whore in a brothel full of Marines. The guy is a sell out.

  • March 25, 2007, 2:59 p.m. CST

    fair enough Kromag, although I hope you're wrong...

    by samsquanch

    The look of Narnia fit with my impression of the books, kind of silly and cartoonish, I'm hoping that what we've seen here, especially the daemons, gets a little grittier and less disney by the final edit. The whole story, (despite the obvious 'kid-friendly' suface details) feels a lot more like an old-fashioned Dickens tale, or Brothers Grimm (not the Matt Damon/ Heath Leger abortion) or something. I hope this isn't lost. <p> Man, even I'm surprised how right I was with my last post- stvnhthr chimed in like, 20 minutes later. I really hope they haven't cut the balls off the MAIN POINT of the story. It seems like folks like stvnhthr, (asuming he's actually read the books) think it must be 'anti-religious' because it's got gay angels and witches in it. Oh yeah, and they kind of kill God, too, sort of, even though it's not really God, but more of a usurper of heaven's throne (like Lucifer) or something, I forget, it's just a kids book for shit's sake anyway. <p> You'll hear arguments like this one, but if you read the book, you'll realize (hopefully) that it's actually a really positive pro-spirituality kind of story, with high-minded ideas and philosophical theories distilled into kid-language. <p> It always seems like the people with no sense of humor are the first to cry 'foul' when they feel like their religion is threatened. Calm down, don't go see the movie if you feel that strongly. I saw the Passion and I really, really wish I hadn't. That movie was about as pro-Christian as Edward Penishands.

  • March 25, 2007, 3:02 p.m. CST

    I'm impressed


    Definitely looking forward to this film now more than ever!

  • March 25, 2007, 3:02 p.m. CST

    90% Creasybear?

    by samsquanch

    Holy shit! When the fuck did that happen?

  • March 25, 2007, 3:04 p.m. CST

    That "Anti-Christian" thing...

    by Larry of Arabia

    The series is not anti-christian. It is anti-organized religion. If you read the book carefully you will notice first that there are good christians in it, but they are weak in the face of the all powerful church. Christianiy is chosen because it is the strongest influence in the western world. If christianity is wrong in the books so is every other religion that doesn't follow the books own view of god and creation. Hindu, Islam, Tao, even "our world's" version of wicca. The books are very gnostic.

  • March 25, 2007, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Wow! This movie looks interesting!

    by Datascream

    I didn't know Eva Green was in this movie. Sort of a Casino Royale reunion. This looks a lot better then Stardust.

  • March 25, 2007, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Looks like they're going to nail it..!

    by workshed

    I'm a firm believer in the brilliance of Phillip Pullman's trilogy but WOAH that was astounding... best keep December 7th free. I think we're looking at the box office smash of 2007 - and that includes young Potter and the next Narnia.

  • March 25, 2007, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Religion? Message? Like that's going to be a problem...

    by Nodwick

    What these guys are probably going to have the biggest problem with is finding a way to change the ending so it's "happier" in a "love story" kind of way (not wanting to spoil it entirely, but there you go). Producers are 99% more concerned that you end a film with a kiss than giving you a satisfactory story.

  • March 25, 2007, 3:27 p.m. CST

    They nailed it

    by dtpena

    MUCH better than Narnia. Well, the story is better than Narnia too, so it shows.

  • March 25, 2007, 3:32 p.m. CST

    true enough, nodwick, but we're hearing rumors...

    by samsquanch

    That they've neutered the story so that over-sensitive simpletons don't get upset. Does it ever feel like this country is one big mental institution with all the fire alarms on 'silent'?

  • March 25, 2007, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Boring boring boring boring.

    by SylarTheCylon

    So, this is what they made instead of Halo? How utterly depressing. If they want to make fantasy, at least they should respect the source material. Instead we get this christmas, fairy, flying bear witch kiddie nonsense. I swear, 20 years from now, when fan movies start being a viable economical endeavour, with state of the art PC graphics and greenscreen being massively available, then finally Hollywood is gonna have to grow some balls and make better movies in order to be competitive. Until then, this is the manner of rectal raping we will have to endure.

  • March 25, 2007, 3:33 p.m. CST

    of course

    by lionbiu

    we all knew it will be changed for box office sake, but why make the adaptation in the first place if they are willing to emit the heart of the book (anti-organised religion agenda)? You might as well make Harry Potter without the magic. I dread when this movie is released because I am 99% sure it will be accustomed by a Bill O'Reilly report on how dangerous and liberal the movie is...this than will spread all over middle America and boycots will be staged.

  • March 25, 2007, 3:37 p.m. CST

    The Amber Spyglass

    by Finklestone

    Its a shame we will have to wait until the third movie to see Lyra's parents kill themselves. Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig throwing themselves into a bottomless pit will be about the only entertainment to be gained from these bastardised adaptations.

  • March 25, 2007, 3:40 p.m. CST


    by Kromag

    That is depressingly likely lionbiu.

  • March 25, 2007, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Is this legal? Or at the very least ethical?

    by erikharrison

    I've seen this downloads from post houses before - usually directly from the filmmakers. I don't know how it came AICN way - possibly an intentional leak - but if not, this is kinda shady.

  • March 25, 2007, 3:50 p.m. CST


    by Avert Therapy

    Did I miss where we get the login or is this a new thing?

  • March 25, 2007, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Whats the username and password

    by Lovecraftfan


  • March 25, 2007, 5:06 p.m. CST


    by hatramroany

    what is it?

  • March 25, 2007, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Yeah, it's been closed

    by King_Knut

    I caught it before they acked on the password thing, but don't worry, you're not missing much. A bit of Daniel Craig with a beard, Eva Green saying how unconventional and layered her baddie is (yawn), Nicole Kidman looking pretty uninspiring, some Gollum-type thing, some polar bear stuff, and some more lame animals (who gives a shit about butterflies? I want to see bears whacking seven shades of crap out of each other!)

  • March 25, 2007, 5:30 p.m. CST

    The file is still there!!!! Just....

    by bellendo

    access this link This will display the directory and the .mov file. Just right click the file and download it!!

  • March 25, 2007, 5:35 p.m. CST GOOOD! Boycott of Compass BAAD!

    by Immortal_Fish

    And it is we conservatives who are against the 1st amendment, right? This is the Dixie Chicks all over again. Say what you want, but be prepared for others to say what they want about what you said. THAT is freedom of speech.<P>When, just when, will someone be brave enough to make "Porky Pig: Muslim" a feature film? When?<P>And I'm agnostic, so don't even go there. There is a horrid imbalance between bashing Allah than there is Jesus in the USA and here in TB especially. I calls it like I sees it.

  • March 25, 2007, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Footage AND stills here

    by Brendon And I will keep the footage alive as long as I can. Thanks

  • March 25, 2007, 6:19 p.m. CST


    by bellendo

    Just access and you will see the directory and the .mov file.

  • March 25, 2007, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Immortal, I have no idea what your point is

    by samsquanch

    your post is incomprehensible. Sorry.

  • March 25, 2007, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Golden Compass I laugh at thee.

    by mrfan

    My golden sundial will outdo you anytime.

  • March 25, 2007, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Sorry, samsquanch

    by Immortal_Fish

    I couldn't possibly break it down into fewer syllables than one for each word. Your comprehension of what I wrote should be possible given how you evidently know how to drive a computer, yet such is not the case.<P>BTW1, this is where you blast me for driving pick-em-up trucks and fucking my sister.<P>BTW2, I drive a hybrid and live in MA. Hail Deval!

  • March 25, 2007, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Finally, BSB

    by Immortal_Fish

    We agree on something.<P>Religion = Flames on Amway

  • March 25, 2007, 7:03 p.m. CST

    funny, your position is aggressively jugemental

    by samsquanch

    while criticizing others for juging your position. Or so it seems, from what I can glean from your previous post. <p> here's an idea- you identify yourself as a conservative, does that mean that anyone who disagrees with you on any topic isn't a conservative? I identify myself that way too, on certain topics, but I don't require others (or the films I watch, or music I listen to, etc...) to be perfectly aligned with my values in order to pay attention to them. Freedom of speech, indeed. <p> Again, I could be wrong, maybe your ramblings about porky pig and Jesus bashing is some arcane code I'm not hip enough to understand.

  • March 25, 2007, 7:08 p.m. CST


    by samsquanch

    misspelled judge, like three times... <p> hehe

  • March 25, 2007, 7:12 p.m. CST

    I put it up on YouTube

    by PervOmatic No armor on bear is nipples on Batman.

  • March 25, 2007, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Oh, Nicole! How Dissapointing...

    by Calibos's Ginger JewFro

    "Mult-EYE Layered.." Try to remember you're still Australian, love. "MultY Layered" if you don't mind.

  • March 25, 2007, 7:17 p.m. CST

    No armor on bear is nipples on Batman.

    by Calibos's Ginger JewFro

    The un-rendered CGI model of Iorek breaking though the door clearly shows he is in armour. The scene with Iorek running across he snow with Lyra on his back, he is armour-less as in the book.

  • March 25, 2007, 7:22 p.m. CST

    samsquanch, Lets get hooked on Muslomics

    by Immortal_Fish

    Porky Pig. A Muslim. Aww, shit. I already hit two syllables in only two two-word sentences. Fuck! Hopefully this still penetrated that ole noggin of yours. You do know that Muslims do not eat pork, yes?<P>Lookit, guess I'm giving you a newsflash here or something, but Jesus is bashed way more stateside and in TB than any other demigod or whatever deity of the month there is that the rest of us should respect unconditionally.<P>Your yap about my identification of what makes one a conservative is irrelevant. There is some serious "brave" Jesus bashing here that is in imbalance to the sore need of some "brave" Muslim bashing here.<P>As an agnostic, I see this. As a self-proclaimed, fellow conservative you see this also, yes? Or, are you totally new to AICN talkback?

  • March 25, 2007, 7:33 p.m. CST

    And yet, the funniest thing

    by Immortal_Fish

    Sorry to pile on, but there's something about the "criticizing others for juging your position" part of your post that I absolutely cream over.<P>I wrote "Say what you want, but be prepared for others to say what they want about what you said." And then you wrote that I am "criticizing others for juging your [my] position".<P>That's REALLY funny and equally silly, you know.<P>It's like getting pissed at Kermit when you, yourself, are green and don't find it easy.

  • March 25, 2007, 7:36 p.m. CST

    I dont' know Radio Crash It look like just los res CGI

    by PervOmatic

    I don't think that was armor plates on him. It seems like it was just the early stage of CGI where is seems blocky because it is a rough model of the character.

  • March 25, 2007, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Are the books worth reading?

    by darquelyte

    I've honestly never heard of the books, this series, the author, or this movie until now. Subject matter sounds interesting, but are the books worth the time?

  • March 25, 2007, 7:54 p.m. CST

    ok, Porky Pig= muslim... sure, I guess.

    by samsquanch

    Is it really that obvious? I guess I do need a monosyllabic explanation, because I still don't see the connection. Is "Porky Pig: Muslim" a Youtube cartoon or something? A thousand pardons, but without some context (any context, at all) I'm still not getting it. I do know that pork is forbidden for muslims, and though you might find it hard to believe, I do know that pork comes from pigs, and yes, I am also aware that Porky Pig is a stylized charicature of a pig, but these connecting dots don't form a clear picture for me. I guess I don't belong on this talkback, since I'm obviously sorely lacking in either the basic intellectual faculties and/or the relevant, up-to-the-minute pop culture references necessary for membership. Sorry to have wasted your valuable time, I'll leave you to mock some other deserving "noob", your work is so needed here.

  • March 25, 2007, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Oh yes, and one more thing-

    by samsquanch

    Thanks for the "newsflash" that Jesus is bashed more stateside than Muslims. Not that I ever brought up anything to do with this topic, but again, to me that seems like a tired xenophobic rationale by the dominant culture of the U.S. to justify it's own hostility towards Islam, but I defer to your demostrably superior intellect in all things. I must be mistaken in this, as I am in so much else.

  • March 25, 2007, 8:05 p.m. CST

    That's okay, samsquanch

    by Immortal_Fish

    Hey, look up there, in the sky. It's blue. Unless it's night time. Then it's black.<P>Okay. You got me. What's more is, you knew you got me. You explained it perfectly. Kinda like the Dixie chicks knowing that the backlash was all a part of the free speech they thought they were denied.<P>And yet, you're a self-proclaimed conservative that isn't aware of any pre-emptive backlash against the coming backlash of religious right-wing zealots that you kinda align yourself with. Or not. Or whatever. Yeah. Right. Whatever. <P>Scroll up. There's proof in them there talkbacks. If you're conservative, then there is no need to quibble with one of your fleeting number here in AICN talkback. Else you expose your true colors. Please prove me rawng.

  • March 25, 2007, 8:08 p.m. CST


    by Calibos's Ginger JewFro

    Nah mate. You can clearly see his helmet and the back plates. I'd do screen cap for you but I gotta go to work.

  • March 25, 2007, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Dark Materials vs Narnia

    by Chifoilisk

    Narnia was preachy. Dark Materials was even preachier, in an "I'm not trying to be preachy, but..." kind of way.

  • March 25, 2007, 8:33 p.m. CST

    everything old is new again

    by samsquanch

    Remember when we met, and we discussed things like: <p> "...but be prepared for others to say what they want about what you said..." <p> and- <p> " identify yourself as a conservative, does that mean that anyone who disagrees with you on any topic isn't a conservative? I identify myself that way too, on certain topics, but I don't require others (or the films I watch, or music I listen to, etc...) to be perfectly aligned with my values in order to pay attention to them. Freedom of speech, indeed..." <p> We were so young then. I miss those bygone days, when the talkback was new, and the sky was... what color was it? <p> You don't believe that I'm a conservative because we're arguing. That's brilliant, Fish. I'm more of a conservative than our present government of authoritarian assholes, I can tell you that much. <p> Mark Twain said: "Loyalty to your country always, loyalty to your government when they deserve it." And Thomas Paine, one of the guys who came up with the idea of America, said: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself." <p> I guess that makes these guys flag burning hippies, eh? <p> Please accept these credentials of my fitness and ability to report to the head office Of Immortal_Fish's Conservative Summer Camp for Wayward Talkbackers, fee enclosed.

  • March 25, 2007, 8:49 p.m. CST

    The city looks great...

    by Avert Therapy

    Just how I imagined, check out the shot at 42 secs in, that pretty much nailed what I was imagining this quasi-victorian world should look like.

  • March 25, 2007, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Worth Reading? Kinda...

    by PervOmatic

    I've read the Narnia books several times, and although I'm an athiest and the books can be a bit preachy, I still enjoy them because the stores are pretty well done for the most part. The Dark Materials books start off great...the first two are pretty riveting stuff, but then by the third it is nothing BUT preachy and the whole thing falls apart with the trip to the underwold which drags on, and then the final battle which seems rushed. The final tying up of the loose ends is pretty poorly done and the whole thing left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I really wanted to like the series too, so it was a bit of a letdown after all was said and done. Still, at least it wasn't a crapfest total waste of time like Eragon. Ugh...

  • March 25, 2007, 11:02 p.m. CST

    1st one will be GREAT, sequels = so difficult to adapt

    by performingmonkey

    This one has everything to make it a nice fantasy movie that's easy to sell to the masses, as well as having the great story and messages interwoven. But the sequels are the works of a bitter and angry man who decided 'hey, I don't know how I'm gonna end this story so I'll just spout a load of bullshit and hope it sticks together'. OK, the second book (The Subtle Knife) contains SOME good moments and does have some story at least, but the third (The Amber Spyglass), if you haven't read it, let's say it would be like if JK Rowling decided to take more drugs than anyone else in the world ever has and put copious amounts of bullshit in the last Harry Potter like armies of angels fighting against an evil cunt who's taken God's place and a race of creatures shaped like ant-eaters but with wheels for legs and giant swans who are their enemies, not to mention that the key to stabalising the universe is, apparently, Lyra (that's the 12-year-old girl) becoming a sort of Eve figure and deflowering herself, thus the kind of prophecy is fulfilled and everything can go back to normal, the end. Seriously, Pullman pulled the third book out of his ass, it's like the works of a madman and will have to be changed a LOT if it ever makes it to the screen.

  • March 25, 2007, 11:09 p.m. CST


    by BadMrWonka

    if you're still reading this, you sir, are a doofus. did you not get that we were making fun of the lack of any sort of logic in your post, and not answering on purpose?<p>I'm reminded of playing 20 questions with my toddler sister on a long car ride as a kid. her first question was, "is it bigger than a breadbox?" I answered yes, and her next question was, "is it smarter than a breadbox?" it was clear she did not get the concept, she was only 3, after all. <p>you might be older, but it's clear you don't get the concept either. <p>the book is anti-tolerance, hateful, and anti-religion...and, as I said, too long and too short, right? sigh...the book is all about tolerance, individuality and thinking for one's self. if your religion preaches against that, that's a shame. if you like those things, and it's part of your faith, great, what's the problem. Pullman writes about the opressiveness of dogmatic christianity, not faith itself. but anyway, I may have gone over your head here. you seem to just want one, simple answer. so here it is: 4.

  • March 26, 2007, 1:09 a.m. CST

    After watching that I jizzed in my pants

    by LittleDudes

    Then on my computer, then on the desk, then on the window, then on your kid sister.

  • March 26, 2007, 3:31 a.m. CST

    the new evolution of fantasy filmmaking!!

    by Evil Hobbit

    that is some selfconfidence.

  • March 26, 2007, 4:26 a.m. CST


    by 11dayempire

    "What these guys are probably going to have the biggest problem with is finding a way to change the ending so it's "happier" in a "love story" kind of way (not wanting to spoil it entirely, but there you go). Producers are 99% more concerned that you end a film with a kiss than giving you a satisfactory story." Never mind, the season two finale of Doctor Who ripped off the ending from His Dark Materials - so it's out there in some form...

  • March 26, 2007, 4:39 a.m. CST


    by henrydalton

    Eeek. I dunno... I loved the books, a lot. But this first look just didn't excite me, visually. Ok, so the effects aren't finished, but even so, there was nothing in the look that looked either like a) something we haven't seen before in recent fantasy films or b) something that looked just like I imagined it when reading the books. And notice how they only show you one VO line of Dakota's performance? And that even that sounds annoying as hell? I'm getting a bit of a forboding feeling here...

  • March 26, 2007, 7:59 a.m. CST

    Exactly HenryDalton

    by Kromag

    Hell, the monkey looked like a straight up Gollum rip off, although I assume they will put some hair on it in post. Also, Immortal_Fish, as an agnostic, why do you care who gets made fun of more???

  • March 26, 2007, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Okay people

    by council estate scumbag

    Just seen the trailer and i dont wanna c this film. Looks like a poor man's narnia or lord of my rings. i'm not hating, its just my opinion. the polar bear with the brat shit looked good tho. what the fuck is this anyway? Everyone jumping on the narnia bandwagon and making cheap knock offs. Golden compass? golden compass, my arse, more like golden crapped arse. never heard of it, and neither has anyone on my estate. this is the same Chris Weitz who did "about a boy", right? or am i wrong. this is gonna suck like camels testicles dangling from my mamas forehead, and she screaming "yo! what the fuck did i do last night?" sorry, if i've upset any dark materials fans out there. but this smells like my old man's upper lip after he licked out some camberwell hooker's ass after she had a vindaloo.

  • March 26, 2007, 8:05 a.m. CST

    i totally agree Kromag

    by council estate scumbag

    that monkey was a poor man's gollum. what the fuck are they doing this shit on if its a poor man's knock off? an amiga 4000? my mate told me they use Maya or some shit to do these CGI films. this is so poor-man's stylee i wouldnt be surprised if they're doing it right here in bermondsey using YTS scheme fuckers from the estates. hey! i should apply!! oh, shit..i forgot, i got my interview at mcdonalds this week......

  • March 26, 2007, 8:18 a.m. CST

    stvnhthr stvnhthr by BadMrWonka

    by council estate scumbag

    that is some funny shit!

  • March 26, 2007, 9:25 a.m. CST

    council estate

    by BadMrWonka

    thanks for the kudos. just fyi, as has been said 4 or 5 times, the CG isn't done in the preview. the monkey will look better. it's just a place filler right now for the animation team to get at.

  • March 26, 2007, 9:51 a.m. CST

    okay BadMrWonka

    by council estate scumbag

    i take back the shit i said about the Amiga 4000 then. i'll reserve my judgement till i see more or when the film comes out, fella.

  • March 26, 2007, 10:05 a.m. CST

    not sure yet.

    by occula

    it just doesn't seem gritty enough for me. one reason i love the books is the curious realism inherent in the imaginary world - the muddy docks, the ragged witches, the old stone buildings, the musty library. this looks very expansive and glorious. is there something about children's adaptations that necessitates this sort of shiny bland epic quality? not only in the visuals but in the directing? and i'm not talking about the temp visuals, i'm talking about the overall vibeage.

  • March 26, 2007, 10:36 a.m. CST

    You support female circumcision?

    by Sepulchrave

    How about burning witches, heretics and homosexuals? Banning books and silencing scientists? Going to war because they don't believe in your God? Well, if you DON'T support those things, then you are on Philip Pullman's side. The God of HDM is a FALSE God of oppression and cruelty. The TRUE GOD in HDM is the power of human consciousness; the power of the angels: Dust. According to Pullman, God isn't some dictatorial lion or king; it's everywhere and all around us. A bit like the force in Star Wars. So call him anti-religious; if he's anti-war, murder, sexual mutilation, castration, queer-murdering and genocide, then so am I.

  • March 26, 2007, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Oh and are the books any good?

    by Sepulchrave

    They were the first children's books to win the prestigious Whitbread Award. They are exceedingly well-written and have some astonishingly difficult philosophical ideas rendered into beautifully poetic images for children to understand.

  • March 26, 2007, 10:43 a.m. CST

    And what's wrong with About a Boy?

    by Sepulchrave

    Best film Hugh Grant ever made. I liked it.

  • March 26, 2007, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Sepulchrave, About a Boy

    by council estate scumbag

    good on ya, fella. did you like police academy 6, basic instinct 2, speed 2 and a troll in central park too? i really happy for ya then. cos guess what. i didnt.

  • March 26, 2007, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Probably be about as successful as the Lemony

    by ExcaliburFfolkes

    Snicket's movie from a few years back. That went from projected series to once and done awfully quick.

  • March 26, 2007, 2:10 p.m. CST

    oh for shits sake.

    by samsquanch

    quit your goddamned whining Monkeybutt.

  • March 26, 2007, 8 p.m. CST

    Snicket was Carrey's fault

    by PotSmokinAlien

    biggest mistake they could have made was giving that part to someone who needs a movie to Star them (when michel gondry is not directing it). those books are pretty unfilmable anyway, though. to finish with a barely navigable simile..... this movie will be chilren of men's narnia to pan's labyrinth's lord of the rings.

  • March 26, 2007, 11:46 p.m. CST

    Riiight. Didn't I just have this argument?

    by samsquanch

    Go read what Immortal Fish had to say Monkey. Moron.

  • March 27, 2007, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Children of Men and religion

    by Lost Prophet

    it was much more important in the book. In fact a lot of it was taken out for the film, because it would have involved a shit-load of tedious exposition,

  • March 27, 2007, 8:45 a.m. CST


    by onemanarmy

    You guys could turn a Gumby movie talkback into a giant unnecessary religious/political debate...for fucks sake get over yourselves. <p> You're ruining TB's for the rest of us.

  • March 28, 2007, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Dakota Blue Richards

    by Talkbacker with no name

    From the studio that brought you LOTR comes one of the most fantastic names i've heard in a long time.

  • March 29, 2007, 3:20 a.m. CST

    This movie DOES point at the Muslims

    by Sepulchrave

    and ALL religions that suppress sexuality and women in particular. You dick. Nobody ever mentions Christ or the Bible at any point.

  • March 29, 2007, 3:22 a.m. CST

    Oh and scumbag

    by Sepulchrave

    You're just a fucking poser; any real chav that spend his time blabbing about fantasy movies whould get his head kicked in right quick. Screw you, nancy.